This is not true,you cannot see as well wearing a headscarf, I have been cut up several times, by women dressed in this fashion.They should not drive like this,they do not in Saudi Arabia
The main thing here is the separation of culture and religion. what you wear is a part of culture (the environment you live in, which has nothing to do with religion) I mean you can wear a decent Dolce and Gabbana top, skinny jeans and Christian Louboutin heels walk out the door and still be a devout muslim. No one should look at you and know automatically that you are a muslim, without actually talking to you and getting to know you better.
ISLAMISTS ARE HYPOCRITES FOR EXAMPLE THEY WANT SHARIA LAW WHICH DOESNT HAVE ANTIDISCRIMINATION LAWS BUT WHEN THEY ARE IN TROUBLE THEY RUN TO ANTIDISCRIMAINATION LAWS, THESE PARASITES THAT FEED OFF THE HARD WORKING WELFARE OF FRENCH PEOPLE SHOULD ALL BE DEPORTED. SHE SAYS SHE IS FRENCH I DONT THINK SO I CANT EVEN SEE YOUR FACE YOU ARE A JIHADIST PARASITE, ISLAM IS AN EVIL CULT A DEATH CULT, MOHAMED WAS A DEVIL WORSHIPPER, ALLAH IS A MOON GOD AND SATAN IS THE PRINCIPAL OF ISLAM AN EVIL ARAB CULT!!
@megaussie so ur in the military I assume... Do you really think muslims in the west should be deported ? how abt those muslims who belong in the west by birth or descent like me ??? is that not unfair ? imagine u were living in a muslim country like Dubai and they deported u back just because you were christian , do u feel that is ok ? because I dont ...
@missmillionmaker OK so imagine I go to Iran open 150 Christian Churchs in a Major city, Blow up the Biggest Buliding and kill 3000 people, then flood youtube with AnTiIslamic videos and spread hate of Islam will I be deported even if my children are born in Iran. Of course I will be deported infact killed. Try again and next time open your brains as you are brianwashed Muslim and a traitor to the Western Lifestyle and AntiChrist Best you dont let Islam make you a security risk
someone should force all their stupid mullahs to wear a fucking burka .. then lash them.. and make them ride around town on an ass.. then finally stone them to death.. fucking sharia pigs
@unitedcoloursofAfg Just loved the last sentence of your last comment...Personally, I would think that every country has some laws which should be followed no matter what, its for the best interest of the people living in the country.. And when you are leaving in a country like french or usa or whatever, cant you just follow a simple rule of a country which has given you so much rights and so much to enjoy life...It's just for the country protection..
If you feel like the niqab protects you, then that's fine. The only thing I have to say is please, for God's sake do not link your niqab to the teachings within the holy Qu'ran because there is no connection, its is simply a trend passed on by Islamic teachers over time. You are simply following a trend, which doesn't make you any pious than any other non- niqabi or non-hijabi Muslim woman.
Apply some brains here. What is your niquab made of? light clothing.
its not water proof, wind proof, heat proof, knife proof, fist proof, bullet proof, it does not enhance ability to run, fight, (more the opposite) parkour, no inbuilt weaponry or communications system, no knee pads, it restricts vision.
It also points out that since you are a muslim you easy rap target d as you wont tell or family honour kills you 4 adultary, & no face for witnesses
@ComboTheCat okay what is cotton light clothing! you need to apply brains here. silly jeans are not water proof bullet or stab proof. neither are cotton tees, or anything.. and actually my niqab is water and wind proof...
I and many wear cargo trousers as more practical than jeans as more up to date. Ie more pockets for electronic gadjets, lighter more water resistant material, dryies quicker, looser so better for running, dancing, sporty stuff and thus better for you to fight or run out of trouble.
But jeans are way better then a loose easy to grab rob with material I can pull over your eyes and grab easy
Incidently I also think a suit is bonkers and no way professional
@uniqueshajeeah Thing is I would not insist jeans, combats and t shirt and light jacket keeps you safe, but they are more practical for running, climbing. fighting etc. when with trainers. (not impressed by high heels)
used to seeign girls in nightclub break dancing in combats and t shirt, then when competing with boys and drop and do the splits and the guys think no fair as the girl laughs saying Girls rule.
The other things is girls hanging with guy buddies are lots safer
@uniqueshajeeah Another brain thing is if goign out clubbing for example, pick your youth/subculture better,
Ie psitrance, rock, metal, goth, punk etc, most fancy dress clubs, some fetish scenes, and some aussie party bars/clubs with wet t shirt and drinking type games tend to be very safe, with friendly fun crowds, mixed sex groups who mainly hang with mates. Psi trance are basicaly modern hippies.Now hip hop, urban, grime type nightclubs more likely to attract gang & chav types
@ComboTheCat U clearly know nothing . Both the women and the men in islam have "hijaab". Hijaab does not mean the headscarf. Hijaab is a covering . Men in islam must over certain parts of thier bodies and women also must cover certain parts of thier bodies as well. The wisdom behind covering is that the oppisite gender does not see what is forbidden for them to see.
No there is no wisdom in this forbiddeness. Its natural for both sexes to draw attention to sexaulity, attributes, health, viritty etc. So for guys this is showing off how strong, brave, daring, rebellious, sporty, rich, successful they are. (ie alpha male) , for females this will be drawing attention to energy, flirtyness, face, breast, hips, smooth skin, flat tummy, healhty legs etc (baby growing ability) and in both cases healht, fitness genietic healht
@ComboTheCat - yes that is what Im talking abt . Muslims believe we have been sent down to this world for a test . If we pass the test we go to paradise,if not then hell (god forbid). part of the test is to stay away from the things you really want to do but commanded us to stay away from. lastly there is nothing wrong if a girl and a guy want to hang out with each other as long as it is through the marriage. marriage is allowed at any age in islam as long as both are happy marrying each other.
it you who are not thinking, you operate from a point of single people in teens and 20s, not married couples as that is advanced level for after you have sophisticated careers with many adventures, socialising, travelling, a good 10 years of developing relationships, observing parental styles, lots of mistakes, experiences etc so are very mature and grown up with stable lives after university/similar travelling to careers etc fincailly secure for kids
it you who are not thinking, you operate from a point of single people in teens and 20s, not married couples as that is advanced level for after you have sophisticated careers with many adventures, socialising, travelling, a good 10 years of developing relationships, observing parental styles, lots of mistakes, experiences etc so are very mature and grown up with stable lives after university/similar travelling to careers etc fincailly secure for kids
it you who are not thinking, you operate from a point of single people in teens and 20s, not married couples as that is advanced level for after you have sophisticated careers with many adventures, socialising, travelling, a good 10 years of developing relationships, observing parental styles, lots of mistakes, experiences etc so are very mature and grown up with stable lives after university/similar travelling to careers etc fincailly secure for kids
yes hajab is head covering, niqab is silly veil and burka is lunacy looking like a ghost.
But these outfits are as bonkers as a suit.whats practical is clothign similar to sporty shoes, cargo/combats trousers with practical material loose comfy with pockets for gadgets, t shirt/blouse thats sleveless co comfy. Then you can have weather clothes like fleece jackets, or shorts, skirts dress if you want to be more attractive also expressive persoanlity and sexy
@ComboTheCat u are extremely DUMB. I assume u are an atheist. islam is not the only religion that does not allow dating . Hijaab does not mean "head covering" idiot. it means "curtain" which basically means something to cover . If u dont know that basic abt the beliefs in islam then you arnt worth debating with . Learn something abt islam and know what exactly u are debating abt .
@missmillionmaker Your forbidden comes from mentally defective histeria, fear and brain washing that sexaulity, feeling love & sex is somhow a bad thing, far from it, its fun, thrills, passion, love, excitment, happiness and all things good.But like snowboarding you take into account age, experience, maturity in relation to relationships so 12-13 crush kiss hand hold, 14-15 making out with kiss, tongue, hands go steady, 16-19 progress to virginity loss, 20s moving in togerher
@ComboTheCat U have a thick head. if a girl and a boy like each other all they need to do is get married the islamic way and they are free to do what ever they like. it doesnt matter what age they are . get over this subject because I gave u my answer more than 3 times.
quote if a girl and a boy like each other all they need to do is get married
THAT IS INSANE !!!!!. marriage type level relationship with mortages and babies are crazy till you are at leadt late 20s or 30s as such relationships are too advanced. Its liek saying you start your career captaining aircraft carriers when you have not learned to row a boat.
You need all the dating to learn and develop relationship skills, 10 years + pre marriage
if a girl and a boy like each other all they need to do is get married
THATS BONKERS. as if you get married 14,15 and have babies how do you earn the money to purchase a £400,000 (THATS UK POUNDS CONVERT TO YOUR CURRENCY) mortage for a house, how do you handle going to different schools, universities in different cities, as guy often older how do you handle tavelling in different countires, career building in different cites/countires, doesnt work
if a girl and a boy like each other all they need to do is get married . it doesnt matter what age they are
ER DUH yeah is does, 13,14,16, 18, 21, 24, 30 year olds all have totoally different types of relationships.
You need to do A before B not start level T.
Teens need friends & dating not marriages, girls should nnot have early babies it restricts life & make you poor, mrriage etc is fine for 30+ no good when younger, too much living to do 1st
if a girl and a boy like each other all they need to do is get married the islamic way and they are free to do what ever they like. it doesnt matter what age they are .
This has no logic. peoepl date and like each other from early teens... where on earth is a 15 year old couple going to get the money to purchase a house, pay for schooling, handle no sleep nights, look after kids when still one themselves.
@missmillionmaker You dont make peoepl fear sexaulity you educate in childhood all about puberty and how hormones will make boys and girls feel, dress act, desire, show off , what is a sensible level activity for rough age, how the opposote sex thinks, feels, how you tell they like you, contrception, sexaul healht, exactly how you can and cannot get pregnant etc so kids understand teen /adult behavour and are relaxed , responsible and happy grwoing up and formig relationships
Also see other answers but you teach boys to treat girls as equals, that both sexes have a right to flirt, feel attraction, have a love life, but you dont push the other sex around etc. That both will fancy the other and have sexaul and emotional desires and want to check out the opposote sex and be checked out , but that dating , realtionship should be part freiendship.Y our marriage is simply more advanced mature serious committed realtionships, Basics 1st
@missmillionmaker You severely punish anyone using terms like slut/whore as you would somoen calling a black person a nigger. Along with sexist thoghts related to sexaul repression.
You teach boys that girls wanting to where a skimpy outfit is the same as them wanting a sporty car with loud sound system and wild paint job, and to hang out with the opposote sex as mates helping each other pull, fall in love and be happy, That somone sexting just wants snuggles with loved one
Purity gets you NO respect, coverign up get you NON respect, virginity gets you NO respect.
Boys and girls get respect the same way ie combat trained so not bullied, smart, strong abilities in areas like extreme sports like parkour, technical ability, caring for others, how adventurous you are, dancing ability, party tricks, fiestiness, confidence in their sexaulity, maturity.
Guys and girls work, play, sport, hang out together equally.
Girls however tend to have slightly better social manipluation skills predominantly with their sexaullity in teens and twenties, can handle more pain, better mutilskilled.
Guys may or may not be physically stronger, bit more street wise when drunk,
Thats pretty much it but flirting is different as not just seekign a companion but sexaul partner so girls show more body, guys more status 7 fitness
@ComboTheCat No worries. if thats what you want to believe in , then thats fine . I dont believe in dating because it goes against my religion . Ma3a Salamah!
@missmillionmaker That makes no sense . Why base actions on a relgion. Why not investigate evidence logivally observing what works and what does not at different age taking into account all the aspects of life that may come up.
Ie
G 16 yr old loves Boy 18 yr old, 18 year old goes to university in a city 1000s of miles away that suits his course, say engineering. 2yrs later G needs to go to Navy academy diff island,
Yr marriage. dont quite work when young relgion or not
Go and leave with mates,. Dont get drunk and get into touting street mini cabs, dont get in strangers cars, avoid dark alleys, woods at night, have phone, (if legal pepper spray), get self defence lessosn and have somethign that could be used as weapon ie umbrella, etc.
Girls outside clubs and sports shoes, dont wear colours assoicated with gangs, football teams in uk etc
@ComboTheCat While I think its unfair to judge my religion and jump to conclusions based on this video (as it is a very incomplete assesment of my religion) I agree with what you have to say about the Niqaab ironically not being able to 'protect' a woman from the leering eyes of a man, i think its absolutely absurd because why should the woman be the agent of change, when clearly the 'problem' is the man's gaze?!
@ComboTheCat While I think its unfair to judge my religion and jump to conclusions based on this video (as it is a very extreme view of my religion) I agree with what you have to say about the Niqaab ironically not being able to 'protect' a woman from the leering eyes of a man, i think its absolutely absurd because why should the woman be the agent of change, when clearly the 'problem' is the man's gaze?!
I though burkhas were banned in Frog land. Of course that stupid sheet with a letter bos slot is a hazard to others on the road. Shitslam kiddy fucker followers need to get with the program :(
But you are allowed to wear a veil as long as your face is not covered. There are women driving with these veils covering their face and they could hit someone and you would not be able to identify the driver... also criminals in the USA have been caught wearing full Veils... Its unpractical in a real society and limits should be placed on them. Its ironic that these women have the gall to complain about civil rights when they would be stoned or killed in their home land for driving!
That burqa will hamper the driver's peripheral vision and make it harder to react to sudden incidents (child leaping onto the road etc). Ban the burqa in Europe and screw Amnesty International. They claim to work for individual freedom but they willingly let extremists shackle their women behind a veil.
why the fuck are muslims always complaining. Get on with your lives and stop blaming everyone else when things dont go your way. If you run someone over with that on your head and i was the judge id jail you for dangerous driving.
As a Muslim myself I just don't get it. Like HOW in the world do you expect to live normally in the West walking around looking like that? Someone tell me. like do they have to invent some kind of new technology to scan eyeballs at airports to determine identity and maintain security? The real sad part is its not required in the Qu'ran, yet the're brainwashed into thinking it is an absolute requirement of being a Muslim. Bullshit!
To all those Niqabis WAKE UP and smell the coffee, HELLO!!!
@unitedcoloursofAfg good for you I infact believe it is the duty of you who are normal people and muslim to rectify these people to society... I have a neighbour who is muslim and one of the nicest people I have to been blessed to know...
If I don't know to whom I am speaking to on a day to day basis, because I can't see her face because of what she calls islam, then yes I do have a problem with that. There are young ladies in my university who wear the niqab and I see them so segregated...so backwards, they can't secure proper jobs, live a prosperous lives. Thats just sad, coming from a muslim.
@unitedcoloursofAfg number one. there are plenty of ways to identify a person. Try using names, voice, the fact that you can't see their physical appearance does not mean you cant identify. and the fact that they are at university getting an EDUCATION proves that they are not backwards and if they are segregated, how does that affect YOU? why is that your business? ok thats sad to you, but what about if its something that makes them happy? did you ever think about that?
Ok in all honesty you do have a point, If a lady choses to wear a niqab, then its her choice. Then again when you weigh security of a society with a personal way of dress ( which is personal and not religious, doesn't say in Qu'ran to wear niqab, just to wear modest clothes), you tell me which is more important? would it not seem selfish to you, especially since its based on individual interpretation of the Qu'ran? Ur religion is in ur heart not on ur head.
@unitedcoloursofAfg from my understanding these woman want to emulate the pious women of the times of Prophet Muhammad sws, who DID infact cover their faces. If they want to make that choice purely for religion, then who are we to stand in their way. No matter what you wear, the security of society is NEVER 100 Most of the time the biggest criminals are those who appear normal and blend in! % safe. blaming it on the fact that a small minority who cover their faces is just unreasonable.
@KautharThalaba Then they can go and be happy in Saudi Arabia, or Afghanistan. There are lots of women like that there.
We don't dress like ninjas in France, nor do we hide our faces.
Wearing traditional Islamic dress is fine, but the niqab is NOT Islamic dress.
All she is doing is provoking hatred and making Islam look like a poisonous cancer in the West. The ONLY people who are happy with her "freedumb of choice" are the fanatics on BOTH sides.
@KautharThalaba Because we are free to debate the stupidity and ignorance of these vacuous and mentally ill women.
If these women wish to remove the cloying garment and stop looking like Jawas, they are able too.
Because if these people realize the stupidity of the entire religious experience, they are FREE to become thinking, lucid humans without threats of death or acid, and enjoy the glorious liberation of a life without dogma yapping at their feet.
@allieron If france was democratic as you said, then they would have as just as much right to wear theniqab/veil just as much as they have to remove it. So please do not speak about democracy. Democracy = what the people want. so why are they not able to wear it if thats what they want. You cant say france is democratic anymore, and you are kidding yourself to belive it.
@KautharThalaba Theoretically, yes, everyone should be free to wear what they like. But we do NOT cover our faces in France. It's impolite, vulgar and frankly disgusting. Even if the person is as ugly as a pigs ass, we do NOT cover our faces.
Over 80 % of the people in France have said "No" to the burqa and niqab. THAT is Democracy. If the people who are stupid enough to want to wear a sack over their head and resemble a Jawa do NOT understand this, then they're living in the wrong country.
@allieron ok so your democracy is fake and a lie, because democracy gives EVERYONE even the minority FREEDOM. Yes you do cover your faces in france, you wear helmets, safety masks, medical masks. Wait isnt the face covered when you wear those garments? and just because a majority doesnt want OTHERS to wear what they want does not mean its right. Are you going to prevent people wearing sacks over their head if thats what they feel like wearing? what country jails its citizens for covering face?
@KautharThalaba You're really not getting the hang of this English thing, or thinking for yourself without dogmatic blinders on, are you.
We cover our faces for SPECIAL occasions or safety reasons. Temporarily. We do NOT walk around like Jawas in public. You were whining that we didn't have "democracy", then when I pointed out that "Yes, we have", you now whine that the majority opinion "doesn't count" ?
@KautharThalaba I don't really want these people imprisoned, but I do want them to understand that we are a République laïque, and that state and superstition are separate. The burqa is a clear infringement of this rule that you are free to believe whatever superstition you want, but NOT free to impose it on others, and the burqa is a slap in the face for anyone who believes in Liberté, Fraternité and Égalité.
Women are jailed and beaten in Muslim nations for showing ankles or shoulders. Dig ?
@allieron You dont want them improsent, but thats what the french government is doing. So what you want is not nececssary what your Republique laique does!... and oh.. there is no difference between afghanistan and France. Afghanistan tells women what to wear, while france tells women what NOT to wear. what a big bunch of hypocrites in the name of "liberty" and "french values". What about Human Values?. Freedom of Religion? Dont those fit under your french constitution? No?.
@KautharThalaba The French government has said "No burqas, no niqabs, no masking of the face in France." It's very clear, and it's what the MAJORITY of ALL French people WANT. It is our DECISION as a DEMOCRATIC NATION that we do NOT want Jawas running around our streets. What do you NOT understand about democracy ?
The niqab is anti-feminine, anti-humanist, anti-civilization and utterly unadapted to the West, just as me wearing a bikini would be in Mecca.
@KautharThalaba What "Human value" is there in a woman dressing as a rubbish bag ? The burqa is a symbol of ignorance, of oppression, of hate, of loathing of women and fear of women by men who haven't evolved out of a stone-ages mentality. It is as compatible with Western Civilization as sacrificing virgins on the altar to have "god" grant you a better crop.
It's primitive bullshit and should be treated with the scorn it deserves, and the women who WANT to wear it given psychiatric care.
@KautharThalaba Also, if you don't like the government first politely asking you to restrain your ignorant superstition, then legalizing against it because you are too damn stupid to take the hint, or are being manipulated by the fanatics, then that's just too bad. We're not allowed to go bare-chested in the center of towns in France, even if it's next to the beach, because of respect for others. That, too, is a law. Do we protest because our "right" to show off our 6-pack is being "repressed" ?
@KautharThalaba Freedom of religion also means NOT shoving it in everyone else's face. The niqab is a revolting spew of fanatical nonsense, a stiff armed salute to a brutal, cruel, ignorant time where women wrapped themselves like Jawas simply to stop men raping them when they went outside for water or air, because men were animals back then. We have changed. The fact that some women don't understand this is why education is important.
@allieron a minority of LESS than 2000 women, out of 60 million s HARDLY shoving anything in anyone's face. THat is not even 1 in a million. Its none of your business or anyone's business what they want to wear whether its to stop men raping them, or to feel comfortable. Nobody dictates YOUR wordrobe when you get dressed in the morning, and these small minority of women should also have the SAME right. I thought EQUALITY what part of french values. Stop controlling Muslim women.
@KautharThalaba One swastika painted onto a tombstone of a brave Tirailleur who fought for France is enough to stir up revolt and anger in most of France. This dressing as a Jawa has the same degree of impact.
Incidentally, her smirking husband is on trial for rape, sexual abuse, benefit fraud and polygamy. Isn't THAT a "good example" of a Muslim man ?
@allieron we are talking about regular citizens not historical figures ok. LEt me tell you something, if you think that the way someone else dresses makes an impact on your life then theres something not right. oh and another thing, you do not know the name of her smirking husband to make those claims so i suggest you do your research before you throw ridiculous accusations made of lies and trechery. If you want a good example of a Muslim man, read about Prophet Muhammad sws.
@KautharThalaba Her "smirking husband" is called Lies Hebbadj, a small-time swindler, "businessman" and social-security fraudster. He beat and raped his 4 wives, and when one of his "wives" who had fled saw his smug face on TV, acting as a prim and devout "Muslim", she found the courage to stand up and expose this smirking Algerian fraud.
I've read about Mohammad. I'm not sure if I agree with your idea of what a "good example" is, though.
@unitedcoloursofAfg and alo, think about it... if someone wanted to commit a crime and get away with it. Do you think they would do it IN PUBLIC with their face covered? when was the last time you saw that/? a criminal usually makes sure that NO-ONE suspects him. So no your point is invalid and I dont see Niqab as a security threat at all!
@unitedcoloursofAfg I have much respect for you love. I have a friend who's muslim and she's very much British, she doesn't wear a headscarf or anything, she dresses modestly by wearing jeans and a top, modesty is subjective.....
This is all a result of left wing rule making people think they can get their way by playing the victim and yelling racism at every bloody thing.
We need more people like you to stand up and tell 'em off.
Thanks for your comment. Yes, there is definately a East/West cultural confrontation going on here. I grew up in the west, so therefore my view on this issue has a western bias. And I am not denying that, clearly I follow a western mindset. Had I grown up in the East, I would have never dreamt to express my thoughts so openly as I am doing now. Religion and politics should never mix. Religion shouldn't dictate, its supposed to be spiritual and individualistic. ITS COMPLICATED!!
@unitedcoloursofAfg EXACTLY! That's why France is a secular country, religion is a private sector and doesn't influence the law (granted many western laws are built on christian values). The problem with a theocracy is the major conflicts it causes, people interperate the religious rules and scriptures differently and that just ends in trouble.
Either way it's the law, they knew, they broke and now they face the consequences.
@unitedcoloursofAfg astaghfirullaah! i am an american muslim women! a revert and honestly my niqab protects me... niqab is my choice, if women can choose to walk around in bathing suits why cant your own sisters cover?!? should the prophets mothers and wives have not worn niqab ??? are you better then them ? is your own "thinking" better than that of the prophet!??!
@uniqueshajeeah No you are either brainwashed or stupid. your niqab offters no protection whatsoever infact it puts you in danger.
its aint knife proof, it anit fist, kick, strangle or bullet proof, it ceratinly aint rape proof, its easy to grab, easy to hold over your eyes, you cant run, climb or fight in it, you cannot see as well, wont hear so well, and as insane honour rules are known about a rapist would be more likely to pick a niquabi as she would not tell anyone
. There are verses in the quran which u and I cannot understand thus we should avoid talking in such ways.
Then its dumb. Any good book is logical and rational. If somethign dont make sense its stupid or wrong, thus said quran is dumb, and written by sexist crazy folk.
@ComboTheCat Muslim No, I think there is plenty of logic in Islam, otherwise I would not be a Muslim myself lol. The laws of the world are accurately described in the Qu'ran, its just that you have a bunch of people who take meaning in the Qu'ran in different ways, this doesn't mean that they practice Islam wrongly its just that there is no single way of being a Muslim. Some people take things at face value while others get a deeper message.
Muslim No, I think there is plenty of logic in Islam, otherwise I would not be a Muslim myself lol.
Actually the statement does not add up. Somone could say well nazisim, aztec/myanisim, kkk, caniballisim and a violent gang or mafia is logical thats why they are a member,.
The laws of the world are NOT in your quran. Where are the rules on driving, hacking, child porn, flying, legalised prostituion, euthanasia, etc? Secular laws more advanced
Islam clearly does not work as it seems to be the relgion with the most fanatic, maost insane allah fans, its not questioned by its followers, there is no common sene disclamier.
Ie Buddah said clearly people shuold not beleive anythign clerics, relgions books, tradition, culture, peoepl say , thats always been done, even what he buddah says if it does not make rational sense to you and does not seem fair.
Clearly islam is not perfect neither is the book when you have peoepl blindly obeying and thinking the way clearics, relgions schools, imans, sharia law, parents etc tell them withtou question no matter how unfair, illogical, sexist it appears. Nobody sane says somoethign is right as a god, relgion book, cleric, rule etc says so.
They sit in judgement over the god, law, etc and judge it be logical, rational, fairness standards to see if they shape up
@ComboTheCat if you have that much doubt in the quran Allah S.W.T challenges people like you in the quran
Chapter 2, Verse 23: And if you (Arab pagans, jews and christians) are in doubt concerning that which we have sent down (the quran) to our slave (Prophet Mohammed , Peace be upon him) then produce a surah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allah if you are truthful.
@ComboTheCat Islam is not the only religion in the world that preaches modesty, you have it Christianity and Judaism, but what you see amongst Christians and Jews is not so much modesty in the way they dress, because the way they dress has evolved in terms of culture and its been separated from religion, meaning the way they dress has nothing to do with thier religious beliefs unlike Islam.
@unitedcoloursofAfg Aggree. All of the abramanic relgions are deranged girl and gay bashying psychols with a history of child, gays, girl, witch bashing following psychotic scitzophrenics, peados and sexists.
Hence whilst not relgious Id only support the attiudes, culture and values of wicca and buddisim.
However many jews and christians dont follow it as fanatically as in the past whilst islam is like the inquistion still as fantically deranged as always.
Modesty is like a smart person acting dumb, like a sporty fit cool persoan acting like a nurdy wuss,
You should be pround and confident in yourself and for girls more in their sexaulity, but not to the point of bitchy bully arrogance (think certian celebrities ie Niaomi Cambel).
There is also the common sense of dont try and do too much too young before you are able to handle it, basics first.
You should make the most of your looks whilst their last
LOL, I know right life's too short, you should make the best of your looks. But, I would argue within certain boudaries. I mean you just want to come across in society as someone who is confident and intelligent.
Clearly islam and quran dont work if peoepl who read and go it its schools create and enforce rules liek girls cannot drive, go to school, wear trousers, date, make love to those of their choosing etc withtou risk of violence or death
@ComboTheCat what an idiot ! u clearly have no knowledge abt islam. Saudia Arabia DOES NOT represent Islam. there is no such thing as girls cannot drive in islam. there is no such thing in islam as women cannot get education . there is no such thing in islam that women cant wear trousers. and YES they are allowed to make love to those of thier choosing through marriage. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that . get of that chair and go get some education.
Oh Im not simily thinking of Saudi Arabia, we have afganistan where girls were stoned to death for going to school, sudan where they arrested a teacher for naming a teddybear mohumed, somalia where they stone 13 year olds for dating and female genital mutilate, nigeria where they death threat girls schools, sentencing to stoning, iran hanging girls for sex, stoning, iraq where they flog selves and murder girls for playing with guys, etc
@missmillionmaker quote there is no such thing in islam as women cannot get education /watch?v=lo6uRwwnFH0 quote there is no such thing in islam that women cant wear trousers. /watch?v=PBJRsh4bn3k quote 'there is no such thing as girls cannot drive in islam' /watch?v=EsJBvjUSJgA quote and YES they are allowed to make love to those of thier choosing /watch?v=v9Nz2qTs7Hk This proves you the lier and lacking education
@missmillionmaker you know what at the end of the day it boils down to whatever your heart tells you is the right thing to do and if wearing the Niqab or Hijab, makes you feel good then by all means go for it. I simply stated my opinion above because to me it just doesn't make sense to wear you heart on your sleeve or in this case on your head. The meaning of Islam is not attached to clothing, its supposed to be something spiritual from within. illustrative in your dailyactions
@unitedcoloursofAfg mate , there is no need to change Islam just to fit in to the western world . There is a lot to be proud of just being Muslim. Yes , Islam is a belief but Allah commanded us this in the quran. There is no need for ur opinion of which is Commanded from the one who created you and I. the meaning of islam has a lot to do with the hijaab/niqaab because if you loved god more than this world, you would surely have worn it because Allah commanded it in the quran.
A anyone commands you you kick them in the nuts. Leaders serve the people, if they are not up to scratch you kick them out of power..
You need to change islam to make it gay friendly, progressive, equal attiudes to both sexes, sexaully relaxed associating sexaulity with cuddles and romance, no more fanticaisim, no more irrationality, no more unfairness to the sexes, less god more real peoepl caring remove 95% of laws relaceing with general guidlines,
@missmillionmaker My goodness me change Islam?! Are you for real! I am just one grain of sand in the desert of Islam. That being said, I stick to my opinion because to ME that is what feels right. There is no universalness to Islam. Yes there are aspects of Islam that are universal to all of us that call ourselves Muslim, but things like what you wear or how long your beard has to be for men are not universal and are not indicators of Islam, period.
@unitedcoloursofAfg Yes change things. Pleanty of people have started big changes like Rosa parks and Martin luther king stopping segregation, Likewise Nelson Mandella in South Africa, you have Ghandi who got the brits out of India, Joan of Arc who in teens led the French to kick out English Oppressors, who now have gay rights and marriage, an end to slavoury, votes for women, etc
@unitedcoloursofAfg So we change our islam to it "fit" in huh? BS. while you are suppose to be supporting our sisters you go against?! Not all believe it is waajib. but what is more beautiful then imitating the sahabiyas. If you knew about the niqab you would know that it has to be taken off for VALID security reasons. like when your going to court so you can be identified, Otherwise you don't need to see her face. Mashallah to all the sisters who do it for the sake of Allah.
@Destinay4lyf No, I am not saying that we should make our Islam fit, because you and I both know that our religion is the greatest, so why should we be ashamed of it, BUT why does it have to be linked to clothing?? I mean I'm not an advocate of slutty clothes, but I mean modesty is so subjective is it not? Why are a large portion of women burqas in welfare with little to no income? Why are they not in higher positions where they can showcase their knowledge in the West?
because you and I both know that our religion is the greatest,
ER NO IT IS NOT. Islamic countries tend to be very sexist, violent, homophobic, girls sex trafficed into arranged marriages, honour killing, unfair sexist laws, sexaully repressive purity.. girls scared to show face to guys, segregation, both of boys & girls and muslsim and non muslims, sunii vs shia suicide bombings, acid attacks on girls for school, fanatical thinking r
our religion is the greatest, so why should we be ashamed of it
sexisim, sunni vs shia, suicide bombings and terrorisim, girls acid attacked, flogged, imprisioned and exectied or murdered for wearign trousers, going to school, driving cars, choosing boyfriends, making love, sexaul segregation, the number of fantical thinkiners etxc
there is plenty ot be ashamed of... compare to say harmless buddisim
@Destinay4lyf I mean this is a way of life that we all have to accept. I am sure that God does not want us to live in vain, Allah is the most gracious and the most mericful therefore why do we do this to ourselves when in reality its what's in your HEART that really counts. You are one with God, no piece of cloth over your face makes you a better Muslim, and by wearing that cloth, you signal to others that you are 'better' but no one knows that except God almighty.
@unitedcoloursofAfg It does matter by what is in the heart. But look at it this way. You can't be going around saying I am a muslim from the heart it doesn't matter what's on the outside because if you truely do love Allah then you love the the deen he has sent to us. Islam is a way of life. The sahabiyas, THE MOST LOVED OF THE UMMAH, dressed like that and they are better than us. Will you go against it? Allah is Gafoor ur Raheem and the doors of repentance are always open.
EXACTLY!! You wonder what thier hiding and yet the whole point is to 'detract' attention from people, when its clearly 'attracting' attention and curiosity in the west!
I am a Muslim myself and it makes me angry when veiled women complain about thier rights not being fulfilled when clearly its an identity crisis! the west is not 9th century Babylon. France is doing this because of thier own security..and frankly I don't blame them! Who the hell am I speaking to under that veil?
wow nice Farsi commin' from a Sri Lankan, its to bad u only learned the bad words though. Try to strengthen ur vocabulary with some positive adjectives :)
just because the user name says lankan doesnt mean im from sri lanka ;) Open your mind, in more than one way :) Yag do roza da khaarej ter kadee, khoda khaariji fiqir kadee hamraye comment et? Maadarkalanaye too chaadaree mepoosheed, besharm beghayrat sell out :)
Mebakshen, awal baraye shoma wa hame Afghanhaiem eteram daram.
Ma kudom Mohmadzai nestum, na kudam uzbe khanadane shahe, familem yak famile mohtaram hast wa hech kudam e shan chadaree name posheedan. What I mean by chadaree is burqa.
Ma as deen wa mazhabe khud fakhir daram, magar poshedan e burqa Islam nest, dewanage wa becharage hast.
Khuda kuna ke shoma ware mardum cheshmaye tona waz kunen wa mahnaye zindagi ra behfamen. Khusosan zindai yak zane Afghan ra.
ma wa familham 22 saal dar canada ter kardem mager 5 saala ke budum kabul da yaadem myaaya ke maadarem chadaree mepoosheed. Mefamum ke burqa dar islam zarror nest magar yak kam zara ehteraami baraye culturema baayad daashtabaashem. Khush shudum ke yag afghanema dar youtube mareefee shudum. Roz e khush barayetaan mekhayum. Salaam
I had been a SCHOOL BUS DRIVER, driving for 2 separate popular school bus companies, driiving for public and catholic school boards, IN FULL VEIL!
I don't see through my nose, my mouth, my chin, cheeks or forehead. I don't know what planet this police officer comes from and where his people's eyes are located, but here on earth, they are between our nose and forehead, you know that place that is NOT COVERED by a veil.
of course its a bloody safety issue. How can she see to her left or her right And why if she has 2 cover up for modesty is she plastered with thick black eyeliner?? Bloody hypocites these fanatics. Go 2 an islamic state & live in peace & harmony where u will look like every other muslim.
If you want your reg freedom then move back to an isliamic state were the law is mainly based on your culture and religon. Why move to another country and have them convert to your way of life.
@jlockuptj I agree. And it is also a matter of principle and safety. If she is allowed to wear the veil then everybody is allowed, right? Then criminals and thiefs could wear it permanently, which would be indeed interesting :-).
@AliciaDupres or we should all be allowed to put paper bags over our heads with eyes cut out go to the bank and then the grocery store and drive down the free way...would we get arrested??? Yes indeed we would. Now what about wearing a balaclafa in Canada go ahead I dare you it is pretty cold here but put that on and try to get in public and you will be arrested so fast your head won't spin...these people really need to be realizing a few things!
@jlockuptj Kind of like the illegal mexican population in our country. They expect our country to cater to them while they proceed to turn this country into mexico. I don't think we are given the courtesy of "dialing 1 for English" in their country. Only in America, folks!
@Raine419 you know what we say down here in Canada eh? We are glad for your faulty imigration laws though I would rather take you Mexican problem any day than to have so many of these flooding into our country at least Mexicans are not wanting to kill you all with by slitting your throats with a blunt knife if you don't bow to their religion...
There is nothing wrong with her vision. You can see fine out of one of those. Like she said, the helmet limits more than cloth (that is not even covering your eyes). Can you people not see her eyes? if you can see her she can see you.
so when she breaks suddenly that rediculous letterbox will never slip down over her eyes? i reckon there's a good chance it would, so therefor she is a risk to other road users, i dont give a fuck about here.
@phucoff1 no because they are tied up tightly. and the second layer of niqaab is a very sheer see through material , in which u can still see through. how is that any different to someone`s hair flapping about in front of thier eyes??
Of course, this is the most outrageous think, to see a woman driving with face completely cover. Where is the safety. That is the most disgusting example of how badly wrong it is.
@porto64able you dont need to have ur mouth and nose open to see where to drive only ur eyes . and her eyes were open and clear at the sides. thats all u need to see where to drive . ur eyes
@showlink they are not extreme they just following islam correclty. and they are FRENCH BORN AND BRED why should they move, they have just as much right to stay as anyone else.
@claychick There is no requirement in Islam to wear a niqab/burqa. Whether or not they are born in France does not mean they should stay if they can not accept the culture in France.
‘And Say to the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, head cover, apron), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)
@claychick I'm sure there are hundreds of interpretation of these verses written 100s of yrs ago and nowhere does it say a woman must cover in the form of a burqa or niqab.
what the women did when the verse to cover was revealed
Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Hadith # 282
Narrated Safiya bint Shaiba (Radhiallaahu Ánha) "Aisha (Radhiallaahu Ánha) used to say: "When (the Verse): "They should draw their veils over their necks and bosoms," was revealed, (the ladies) cut their waist sheets at the edges and covered their faces with the cut pieces.
@claychick Now how many people do you see walking around with medical masks on except for maybe Michael Jackson and who has been asked to remove their clothes to remain unmodest. Keep it real. This dress is for fanatics and converts.
I do not think that the veil should be fully banned... though it isn't acceptable for people like teachers or other public sector
having said that... this women is EXTREMELY hypocrtical... she wears the burqa to protect her beauty and modesty yet she's wearing eyeliner and mascara????
pffffffffff les polisier sé des raciste a point sé tous!!!!!!!! la burka en forceeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!e fadéla amara vas se faire enculer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is not true,you cannot see as well wearing a headscarf, I have been cut up several times, by women dressed in this fashion.They should not drive like this,they do not in Saudi Arabia
nevanovna 6 days ago
The main thing here is the separation of culture and religion. what you wear is a part of culture (the environment you live in, which has nothing to do with religion) I mean you can wear a decent Dolce and Gabbana top, skinny jeans and Christian Louboutin heels walk out the door and still be a devout muslim. No one should look at you and know automatically that you are a muslim, without actually talking to you and getting to know you better.
unitedcoloursofAfg 1 month ago
ISLAMISTS ARE HYPOCRITES FOR EXAMPLE THEY WANT SHARIA LAW WHICH DOESNT HAVE ANTIDISCRIMINATION LAWS BUT WHEN THEY ARE IN TROUBLE THEY RUN TO ANTIDISCRIMAINATION LAWS, THESE PARASITES THAT FEED OFF THE HARD WORKING WELFARE OF FRENCH PEOPLE SHOULD ALL BE DEPORTED. SHE SAYS SHE IS FRENCH I DONT THINK SO I CANT EVEN SEE YOUR FACE YOU ARE A JIHADIST PARASITE, ISLAM IS AN EVIL CULT A DEATH CULT, MOHAMED WAS A DEVIL WORSHIPPER, ALLAH IS A MOON GOD AND SATAN IS THE PRINCIPAL OF ISLAM AN EVIL ARAB CULT!!
TheISLAMISACULT 1 month ago
You should all be deported!!
megaussie 1 month ago
@megaussie we should be deported? on what grounds? i think ignorant jackasses like yourself should be the ones deported
uniqueshajeeah 1 month ago
@uniqueshajeeah National Secuirty, you know what I mean and I know your trained to lie. I hope they have you under surveilance.
megaussie 1 month ago
@megaussie well your right about one part, i mean ya know i am american and we are trained to lie..
uniqueshajeeah 1 month ago
@uniqueshajeeah American, are you?
TheISLAMISACULT 1 month ago
@TheISLAMISACULT yes.
uniqueshajeeah 1 month ago
@megaussie - lol arnt you the one that lives in Afghanistan ?
missmillionmaker 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker When necessary.
megaussie 1 month ago
@megaussie so ur in the military I assume... Do you really think muslims in the west should be deported ? how abt those muslims who belong in the west by birth or descent like me ??? is that not unfair ? imagine u were living in a muslim country like Dubai and they deported u back just because you were christian , do u feel that is ok ? because I dont ...
missmillionmaker 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker OK so imagine I go to Iran open 150 Christian Churchs in a Major city, Blow up the Biggest Buliding and kill 3000 people, then flood youtube with AnTiIslamic videos and spread hate of Islam will I be deported even if my children are born in Iran. Of course I will be deported infact killed. Try again and next time open your brains as you are brianwashed Muslim and a traitor to the Western Lifestyle and AntiChrist Best you dont let Islam make you a security risk
megaussie 1 month ago
i thought they was ilegal in france now
ZaxIntel 2 months ago
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someone should force all their stupid mullahs to wear a fucking burka .. then lash them.. and make them ride around town on an ass.. then finally stone them to death.. fucking sharia pigs
thank god for this law
~exmuslim
DarkprinX2500 3 months ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg Just loved the last sentence of your last comment...Personally, I would think that every country has some laws which should be followed no matter what, its for the best interest of the people living in the country.. And when you are leaving in a country like french or usa or whatever, cant you just follow a simple rule of a country which has given you so much rights and so much to enjoy life...It's just for the country protection..
ThePrinceblaze 3 months ago
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ThePrinceblaze 3 months ago
@ uniqueshajeeah
If you feel like the niqab protects you, then that's fine. The only thing I have to say is please, for God's sake do not link your niqab to the teachings within the holy Qu'ran because there is no connection, its is simply a trend passed on by Islamic teachers over time. You are simply following a trend, which doesn't make you any pious than any other non- niqabi or non-hijabi Muslim woman.
unitedcoloursofAfg 3 months ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg nobody ever said it did, i wear my niqab to cover myself to protect myself.
uniqueshajeeah 1 month ago
@uniqueshajeeah
Apply some brains here. What is your niquab made of? light clothing.
its not water proof, wind proof, heat proof, knife proof, fist proof, bullet proof, it does not enhance ability to run, fight, (more the opposite) parkour, no inbuilt weaponry or communications system, no knee pads, it restricts vision.
It also points out that since you are a muslim you easy rap target d as you wont tell or family honour kills you 4 adultary, & no face for witnesses
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@ComboTheCat okay what is cotton light clothing! you need to apply brains here. silly jeans are not water proof bullet or stab proof. neither are cotton tees, or anything.. and actually my niqab is water and wind proof...
uniqueshajeeah 1 month ago
@uniqueshajeeah
I and many wear cargo trousers as more practical than jeans as more up to date. Ie more pockets for electronic gadjets, lighter more water resistant material, dryies quicker, looser so better for running, dancing, sporty stuff and thus better for you to fight or run out of trouble.
But jeans are way better then a loose easy to grab rob with material I can pull over your eyes and grab easy
Incidently I also think a suit is bonkers and no way professional
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@uniqueshajeeah Thing is I would not insist jeans, combats and t shirt and light jacket keeps you safe, but they are more practical for running, climbing. fighting etc. when with trainers. (not impressed by high heels)
used to seeign girls in nightclub break dancing in combats and t shirt, then when competing with boys and drop and do the splits and the guys think no fair as the girl laughs saying Girls rule.
The other things is girls hanging with guy buddies are lots safer
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@uniqueshajeeah Another brain thing is if goign out clubbing for example, pick your youth/subculture better,
Ie psitrance, rock, metal, goth, punk etc, most fancy dress clubs, some fetish scenes, and some aussie party bars/clubs with wet t shirt and drinking type games tend to be very safe, with friendly fun crowds, mixed sex groups who mainly hang with mates. Psi trance are basicaly modern hippies.Now hip hop, urban, grime type nightclubs more likely to attract gang & chav types
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@ComboTheCat U clearly know nothing . Both the women and the men in islam have "hijaab". Hijaab does not mean the headscarf. Hijaab is a covering . Men in islam must over certain parts of thier bodies and women also must cover certain parts of thier bodies as well. The wisdom behind covering is that the oppisite gender does not see what is forbidden for them to see.
missmillionmaker 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker
No there is no wisdom in this forbiddeness. Its natural for both sexes to draw attention to sexaulity, attributes, health, viritty etc. So for guys this is showing off how strong, brave, daring, rebellious, sporty, rich, successful they are. (ie alpha male) , for females this will be drawing attention to energy, flirtyness, face, breast, hips, smooth skin, flat tummy, healhty legs etc (baby growing ability) and in both cases healht, fitness genietic healht
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@ComboTheCat - yes that is what Im talking abt . Muslims believe we have been sent down to this world for a test . If we pass the test we go to paradise,if not then hell (god forbid). part of the test is to stay away from the things you really want to do but commanded us to stay away from. lastly there is nothing wrong if a girl and a guy want to hang out with each other as long as it is through the marriage. marriage is allowed at any age in islam as long as both are happy marrying each other.
missmillionmaker 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker
it you who are not thinking, you operate from a point of single people in teens and 20s, not married couples as that is advanced level for after you have sophisticated careers with many adventures, socialising, travelling, a good 10 years of developing relationships, observing parental styles, lots of mistakes, experiences etc so are very mature and grown up with stable lives after university/similar travelling to careers etc fincailly secure for kids
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker
it you who are not thinking, you operate from a point of single people in teens and 20s, not married couples as that is advanced level for after you have sophisticated careers with many adventures, socialising, travelling, a good 10 years of developing relationships, observing parental styles, lots of mistakes, experiences etc so are very mature and grown up with stable lives after university/similar travelling to careers etc fincailly secure for kids
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
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@missmillionmaker
it you who are not thinking, you operate from a point of single people in teens and 20s, not married couples as that is advanced level for after you have sophisticated careers with many adventures, socialising, travelling, a good 10 years of developing relationships, observing parental styles, lots of mistakes, experiences etc so are very mature and grown up with stable lives after university/similar travelling to careers etc fincailly secure for kids
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker
yes hajab is head covering, niqab is silly veil and burka is lunacy looking like a ghost.
But these outfits are as bonkers as a suit.whats practical is clothign similar to sporty shoes, cargo/combats trousers with practical material loose comfy with pockets for gadgets, t shirt/blouse thats sleveless co comfy. Then you can have weather clothes like fleece jackets, or shorts, skirts dress if you want to be more attractive also expressive persoanlity and sexy
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@ComboTheCat u are extremely DUMB. I assume u are an atheist. islam is not the only religion that does not allow dating . Hijaab does not mean "head covering" idiot. it means "curtain" which basically means something to cover . If u dont know that basic abt the beliefs in islam then you arnt worth debating with . Learn something abt islam and know what exactly u are debating abt .
missmillionmaker 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker Your forbidden comes from mentally defective histeria, fear and brain washing that sexaulity, feeling love & sex is somhow a bad thing, far from it, its fun, thrills, passion, love, excitment, happiness and all things good.But like snowboarding you take into account age, experience, maturity in relation to relationships so 12-13 crush kiss hand hold, 14-15 making out with kiss, tongue, hands go steady, 16-19 progress to virginity loss, 20s moving in togerher
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@ComboTheCat U have a thick head. if a girl and a boy like each other all they need to do is get married the islamic way and they are free to do what ever they like. it doesnt matter what age they are . get over this subject because I gave u my answer more than 3 times.
missmillionmaker 1 month ago
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@missmillionmaker ONE
quote if a girl and a boy like each other all they need to do is get married
THAT IS INSANE !!!!!. marriage type level relationship with mortages and babies are crazy till you are at leadt late 20s or 30s as such relationships are too advanced. Its liek saying you start your career captaining aircraft carriers when you have not learned to row a boat.
You need all the dating to learn and develop relationship skills, 10 years + pre marriage
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
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@missmillionmaker Two
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if a girl and a boy like each other all they need to do is get married
THATS BONKERS. as if you get married 14,15 and have babies how do you earn the money to purchase a £400,000 (THATS UK POUNDS CONVERT TO YOUR CURRENCY) mortage for a house, how do you handle going to different schools, universities in different cities, as guy often older how do you handle tavelling in different countires, career building in different cites/countires, doesnt work
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
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@missmillionmaker
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if a girl and a boy like each other all they need to do is get married . it doesnt matter what age they are
ER DUH yeah is does, 13,14,16, 18, 21, 24, 30 year olds all have totoally different types of relationships.
You need to do A before B not start level T.
Teens need friends & dating not marriages, girls should nnot have early babies it restricts life & make you poor, mrriage etc is fine for 30+ no good when younger, too much living to do 1st
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
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@missmillionmaker
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if a girl and a boy like each other all they need to do is get married the islamic way and they are free to do what ever they like. it doesnt matter what age they are .
This has no logic. peoepl date and like each other from early teens... where on earth is a 15 year old couple going to get the money to purchase a house, pay for schooling, handle no sleep nights, look after kids when still one themselves.
We see the results of your thinking-GHETOS
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker SEE ANSWERS AND LOGIC BEHIND THINKING
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker You dont make peoepl fear sexaulity you educate in childhood all about puberty and how hormones will make boys and girls feel, dress act, desire, show off , what is a sensible level activity for rough age, how the opposote sex thinks, feels, how you tell they like you, contrception, sexaul healht, exactly how you can and cannot get pregnant etc so kids understand teen /adult behavour and are relaxed , responsible and happy grwoing up and formig relationships
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker
Also see other answers but you teach boys to treat girls as equals, that both sexes have a right to flirt, feel attraction, have a love life, but you dont push the other sex around etc. That both will fancy the other and have sexaul and emotional desires and want to check out the opposote sex and be checked out , but that dating , realtionship should be part freiendship.Y our marriage is simply more advanced mature serious committed realtionships, Basics 1st
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker You severely punish anyone using terms like slut/whore as you would somoen calling a black person a nigger. Along with sexist thoghts related to sexaul repression.
You teach boys that girls wanting to where a skimpy outfit is the same as them wanting a sporty car with loud sound system and wild paint job, and to hang out with the opposote sex as mates helping each other pull, fall in love and be happy, That somone sexting just wants snuggles with loved one
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker see all answers.
Oh ad one more thing... for a girl.
Purity gets you NO respect, coverign up get you NON respect, virginity gets you NO respect.
Boys and girls get respect the same way ie combat trained so not bullied, smart, strong abilities in areas like extreme sports like parkour, technical ability, caring for others, how adventurous you are, dancing ability, party tricks, fiestiness, confidence in their sexaulity, maturity.
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker
Guys and girls work, play, sport, hang out together equally.
Girls however tend to have slightly better social manipluation skills predominantly with their sexaullity in teens and twenties, can handle more pain, better mutilskilled.
Guys may or may not be physically stronger, bit more street wise when drunk,
Thats pretty much it but flirting is different as not just seekign a companion but sexaul partner so girls show more body, guys more status 7 fitness
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@ComboTheCat No worries. if thats what you want to believe in , then thats fine . I dont believe in dating because it goes against my religion . Ma3a Salamah!
missmillionmaker 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker That makes no sense . Why base actions on a relgion. Why not investigate evidence logivally observing what works and what does not at different age taking into account all the aspects of life that may come up.
Ie
G 16 yr old loves Boy 18 yr old, 18 year old goes to university in a city 1000s of miles away that suits his course, say engineering. 2yrs later G needs to go to Navy academy diff island,
Yr marriage. dont quite work when young relgion or not
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker see all answers
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@uniqueshajeeah Other common sense.
Go clubbing in relatively safer areas not ghettos
Go and leave with mates,. Dont get drunk and get into touting street mini cabs, dont get in strangers cars, avoid dark alleys, woods at night, have phone, (if legal pepper spray), get self defence lessosn and have somethign that could be used as weapon ie umbrella, etc.
Girls outside clubs and sports shoes, dont wear colours assoicated with gangs, football teams in uk etc
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@ComboTheCat While I think its unfair to judge my religion and jump to conclusions based on this video (as it is a very incomplete assesment of my religion) I agree with what you have to say about the Niqaab ironically not being able to 'protect' a woman from the leering eyes of a man, i think its absolutely absurd because why should the woman be the agent of change, when clearly the 'problem' is the man's gaze?!
unitedcoloursofAfg 1 month ago
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@ComboTheCat While I think its unfair to judge my religion and jump to conclusions based on this video (as it is a very extreme view of my religion) I agree with what you have to say about the Niqaab ironically not being able to 'protect' a woman from the leering eyes of a man, i think its absolutely absurd because why should the woman be the agent of change, when clearly the 'problem' is the man's gaze?!
unitedcoloursofAfg 1 month ago
I though burkhas were banned in Frog land. Of course that stupid sheet with a letter bos slot is a hazard to others on the road. Shitslam kiddy fucker followers need to get with the program :(
draussie 3 months ago
ha ha my country? xD hater thats all just hater of islam...
TetaMajana1 4 months ago
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But you are allowed to wear a veil as long as your face is not covered. There are women driving with these veils covering their face and they could hit someone and you would not be able to identify the driver... also criminals in the USA have been caught wearing full Veils... Its unpractical in a real society and limits should be placed on them. Its ironic that these women have the gall to complain about civil rights when they would be stoned or killed in their home land for driving!
JUDALATION 5 months ago
Men look like bearded goats - women look like vailed ghosts.
magnifier2020 7 months ago
Anyway burqua is no forbiden in France,she wiII pay 150e if she do it again...
France731000 9 months ago
That burqa will hamper the driver's peripheral vision and make it harder to react to sudden incidents (child leaping onto the road etc). Ban the burqa in Europe and screw Amnesty International. They claim to work for individual freedom but they willingly let extremists shackle their women behind a veil.
DrStrangebomb1993 9 months ago
Darth Vader was driving a spaceship, not a car !
midgetghost 9 months ago
why the fuck are muslims always complaining. Get on with your lives and stop blaming everyone else when things dont go your way. If you run someone over with that on your head and i was the judge id jail you for dangerous driving.
djpecky 9 months ago
no his country is not also her country....if it were then she would have to acsept the values of the society and not her own countries values...
lucy9359 10 months ago
She should wear a motorcycle helmet, she could then say it's for safety, like the Nascar drivers wear.
sgreen4 11 months ago
As a Muslim myself I just don't get it. Like HOW in the world do you expect to live normally in the West walking around looking like that? Someone tell me. like do they have to invent some kind of new technology to scan eyeballs at airports to determine identity and maintain security? The real sad part is its not required in the Qu'ran, yet the're brainwashed into thinking it is an absolute requirement of being a Muslim. Bullshit!
To all those Niqabis WAKE UP and smell the coffee, HELLO!!!
unitedcoloursofAfg 1 year ago 26
@unitedcoloursofAfg good for you I infact believe it is the duty of you who are normal people and muslim to rectify these people to society... I have a neighbour who is muslim and one of the nicest people I have to been blessed to know...
lucy9359 10 months ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg Do you have a problem with Muslim women choosing how they want to dress?
KautharThalaba 10 months ago
@KautharThalaba
If I don't know to whom I am speaking to on a day to day basis, because I can't see her face because of what she calls islam, then yes I do have a problem with that. There are young ladies in my university who wear the niqab and I see them so segregated...so backwards, they can't secure proper jobs, live a prosperous lives. Thats just sad, coming from a muslim.
unitedcoloursofAfg 10 months ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg number one. there are plenty of ways to identify a person. Try using names, voice, the fact that you can't see their physical appearance does not mean you cant identify. and the fact that they are at university getting an EDUCATION proves that they are not backwards and if they are segregated, how does that affect YOU? why is that your business? ok thats sad to you, but what about if its something that makes them happy? did you ever think about that?
KautharThalaba 10 months ago
@KautharThalaba
Ok in all honesty you do have a point, If a lady choses to wear a niqab, then its her choice. Then again when you weigh security of a society with a personal way of dress ( which is personal and not religious, doesn't say in Qu'ran to wear niqab, just to wear modest clothes), you tell me which is more important? would it not seem selfish to you, especially since its based on individual interpretation of the Qu'ran? Ur religion is in ur heart not on ur head.
unitedcoloursofAfg 10 months ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg from my understanding these woman want to emulate the pious women of the times of Prophet Muhammad sws, who DID infact cover their faces. If they want to make that choice purely for religion, then who are we to stand in their way. No matter what you wear, the security of society is NEVER 100 Most of the time the biggest criminals are those who appear normal and blend in! % safe. blaming it on the fact that a small minority who cover their faces is just unreasonable.
KautharThalaba 10 months ago
@KautharThalaba Then they can go and be happy in Saudi Arabia, or Afghanistan. There are lots of women like that there.
We don't dress like ninjas in France, nor do we hide our faces.
Wearing traditional Islamic dress is fine, but the niqab is NOT Islamic dress.
All she is doing is provoking hatred and making Islam look like a poisonous cancer in the West. The ONLY people who are happy with her "freedumb of choice" are the fanatics on BOTH sides.
allieron 10 months ago
@allieron tell me why France is a" democratic" country again??
KautharThalaba 10 months ago
@KautharThalaba Because we are free to debate the stupidity and ignorance of these vacuous and mentally ill women.
If these women wish to remove the cloying garment and stop looking like Jawas, they are able too.
Because if these people realize the stupidity of the entire religious experience, they are FREE to become thinking, lucid humans without threats of death or acid, and enjoy the glorious liberation of a life without dogma yapping at their feet.
THAT is why France is "democratic".
allieron 10 months ago
@allieron If france was democratic as you said, then they would have as just as much right to wear theniqab/veil just as much as they have to remove it. So please do not speak about democracy. Democracy = what the people want. so why are they not able to wear it if thats what they want. You cant say france is democratic anymore, and you are kidding yourself to belive it.
KautharThalaba 10 months ago
@KautharThalaba Theoretically, yes, everyone should be free to wear what they like. But we do NOT cover our faces in France. It's impolite, vulgar and frankly disgusting. Even if the person is as ugly as a pigs ass, we do NOT cover our faces.
Over 80 % of the people in France have said "No" to the burqa and niqab. THAT is Democracy. If the people who are stupid enough to want to wear a sack over their head and resemble a Jawa do NOT understand this, then they're living in the wrong country.
allieron 10 months ago
@allieron ok so your democracy is fake and a lie, because democracy gives EVERYONE even the minority FREEDOM. Yes you do cover your faces in france, you wear helmets, safety masks, medical masks. Wait isnt the face covered when you wear those garments? and just because a majority doesnt want OTHERS to wear what they want does not mean its right. Are you going to prevent people wearing sacks over their head if thats what they feel like wearing? what country jails its citizens for covering face?
KautharThalaba 10 months ago
@KautharThalaba You're really not getting the hang of this English thing, or thinking for yourself without dogmatic blinders on, are you.
We cover our faces for SPECIAL occasions or safety reasons. Temporarily. We do NOT walk around like Jawas in public. You were whining that we didn't have "democracy", then when I pointed out that "Yes, we have", you now whine that the majority opinion "doesn't count" ?
Do you even know what "Democracy" is ?
allieron 10 months ago
@KautharThalaba I don't really want these people imprisoned, but I do want them to understand that we are a République laïque, and that state and superstition are separate. The burqa is a clear infringement of this rule that you are free to believe whatever superstition you want, but NOT free to impose it on others, and the burqa is a slap in the face for anyone who believes in Liberté, Fraternité and Égalité.
Women are jailed and beaten in Muslim nations for showing ankles or shoulders. Dig ?
allieron 10 months ago
@allieron You dont want them improsent, but thats what the french government is doing. So what you want is not nececssary what your Republique laique does!... and oh.. there is no difference between afghanistan and France. Afghanistan tells women what to wear, while france tells women what NOT to wear. what a big bunch of hypocrites in the name of "liberty" and "french values". What about Human Values?. Freedom of Religion? Dont those fit under your french constitution? No?.
KautharThalaba 10 months ago
@KautharThalaba The French government has said "No burqas, no niqabs, no masking of the face in France." It's very clear, and it's what the MAJORITY of ALL French people WANT. It is our DECISION as a DEMOCRATIC NATION that we do NOT want Jawas running around our streets. What do you NOT understand about democracy ?
The niqab is anti-feminine, anti-humanist, anti-civilization and utterly unadapted to the West, just as me wearing a bikini would be in Mecca.
"When in Rome..."
allieron 10 months ago
@KautharThalaba What "Human value" is there in a woman dressing as a rubbish bag ? The burqa is a symbol of ignorance, of oppression, of hate, of loathing of women and fear of women by men who haven't evolved out of a stone-ages mentality. It is as compatible with Western Civilization as sacrificing virgins on the altar to have "god" grant you a better crop.
It's primitive bullshit and should be treated with the scorn it deserves, and the women who WANT to wear it given psychiatric care.
allieron 10 months ago
@KautharThalaba Also, if you don't like the government first politely asking you to restrain your ignorant superstition, then legalizing against it because you are too damn stupid to take the hint, or are being manipulated by the fanatics, then that's just too bad. We're not allowed to go bare-chested in the center of towns in France, even if it's next to the beach, because of respect for others. That, too, is a law. Do we protest because our "right" to show off our 6-pack is being "repressed" ?
allieron 10 months ago
@KautharThalaba Freedom of religion also means NOT shoving it in everyone else's face. The niqab is a revolting spew of fanatical nonsense, a stiff armed salute to a brutal, cruel, ignorant time where women wrapped themselves like Jawas simply to stop men raping them when they went outside for water or air, because men were animals back then. We have changed. The fact that some women don't understand this is why education is important.
allieron 10 months ago
@allieron a minority of LESS than 2000 women, out of 60 million s HARDLY shoving anything in anyone's face. THat is not even 1 in a million. Its none of your business or anyone's business what they want to wear whether its to stop men raping them, or to feel comfortable. Nobody dictates YOUR wordrobe when you get dressed in the morning, and these small minority of women should also have the SAME right. I thought EQUALITY what part of french values. Stop controlling Muslim women.
KautharThalaba 10 months ago
@KautharThalaba One swastika painted onto a tombstone of a brave Tirailleur who fought for France is enough to stir up revolt and anger in most of France. This dressing as a Jawa has the same degree of impact.
Incidentally, her smirking husband is on trial for rape, sexual abuse, benefit fraud and polygamy. Isn't THAT a "good example" of a Muslim man ?
allieron 10 months ago
@allieron we are talking about regular citizens not historical figures ok. LEt me tell you something, if you think that the way someone else dresses makes an impact on your life then theres something not right. oh and another thing, you do not know the name of her smirking husband to make those claims so i suggest you do your research before you throw ridiculous accusations made of lies and trechery. If you want a good example of a Muslim man, read about Prophet Muhammad sws.
KautharThalaba 10 months ago
@KautharThalaba Her "smirking husband" is called Lies Hebbadj, a small-time swindler, "businessman" and social-security fraudster. He beat and raped his 4 wives, and when one of his "wives" who had fled saw his smug face on TV, acting as a prim and devout "Muslim", she found the courage to stand up and expose this smirking Algerian fraud.
I've read about Mohammad. I'm not sure if I agree with your idea of what a "good example" is, though.
allieron 10 months ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg and alo, think about it... if someone wanted to commit a crime and get away with it. Do you think they would do it IN PUBLIC with their face covered? when was the last time you saw that/? a criminal usually makes sure that NO-ONE suspects him. So no your point is invalid and I dont see Niqab as a security threat at all!
KautharThalaba 10 months ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg I have much respect for you love. I have a friend who's muslim and she's very much British, she doesn't wear a headscarf or anything, she dresses modestly by wearing jeans and a top, modesty is subjective.....
This is all a result of left wing rule making people think they can get their way by playing the victim and yelling racism at every bloody thing.
We need more people like you to stand up and tell 'em off.
xXFailCakeXx 5 months ago
@xXFailCakeXx
Thanks for your comment. Yes, there is definately a East/West cultural confrontation going on here. I grew up in the west, so therefore my view on this issue has a western bias. And I am not denying that, clearly I follow a western mindset. Had I grown up in the East, I would have never dreamt to express my thoughts so openly as I am doing now. Religion and politics should never mix. Religion shouldn't dictate, its supposed to be spiritual and individualistic. ITS COMPLICATED!!
unitedcoloursofAfg 5 months ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg EXACTLY! That's why France is a secular country, religion is a private sector and doesn't influence the law (granted many western laws are built on christian values). The problem with a theocracy is the major conflicts it causes, people interperate the religious rules and scriptures differently and that just ends in trouble.
Either way it's the law, they knew, they broke and now they face the consequences.
xXFailCakeXx 5 months ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg astaghfirullaah! i am an american muslim women! a revert and honestly my niqab protects me... niqab is my choice, if women can choose to walk around in bathing suits why cant your own sisters cover?!? should the prophets mothers and wives have not worn niqab ??? are you better then them ? is your own "thinking" better than that of the prophet!??!
uniqueshajeeah 3 months ago
@uniqueshajeeah No you are either brainwashed or stupid. your niqab offters no protection whatsoever infact it puts you in danger.
its aint knife proof, it anit fist, kick, strangle or bullet proof, it ceratinly aint rape proof, its easy to grab, easy to hold over your eyes, you cant run, climb or fight in it, you cannot see as well, wont hear so well, and as insane honour rules are known about a rapist would be more likely to pick a niquabi as she would not tell anyone
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missmillionmaker 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker
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. There are verses in the quran which u and I cannot understand thus we should avoid talking in such ways.
Then its dumb. Any good book is logical and rational. If somethign dont make sense its stupid or wrong, thus said quran is dumb, and written by sexist crazy folk.
Muslims clearly have no logic
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@ComboTheCat Muslim No, I think there is plenty of logic in Islam, otherwise I would not be a Muslim myself lol. The laws of the world are accurately described in the Qu'ran, its just that you have a bunch of people who take meaning in the Qu'ran in different ways, this doesn't mean that they practice Islam wrongly its just that there is no single way of being a Muslim. Some people take things at face value while others get a deeper message.
unitedcoloursofAfg 1 month ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg
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Muslim No, I think there is plenty of logic in Islam, otherwise I would not be a Muslim myself lol.
Actually the statement does not add up. Somone could say well nazisim, aztec/myanisim, kkk, caniballisim and a violent gang or mafia is logical thats why they are a member,.
The laws of the world are NOT in your quran. Where are the rules on driving, hacking, child porn, flying, legalised prostituion, euthanasia, etc? Secular laws more advanced
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg
Islam clearly does not work as it seems to be the relgion with the most fanatic, maost insane allah fans, its not questioned by its followers, there is no common sene disclamier.
Ie Buddah said clearly people shuold not beleive anythign clerics, relgions books, tradition, culture, peoepl say , thats always been done, even what he buddah says if it does not make rational sense to you and does not seem fair.
This would stop most insane muslims stuff
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg
Clearly islam is not perfect neither is the book when you have peoepl blindly obeying and thinking the way clearics, relgions schools, imans, sharia law, parents etc tell them withtou question no matter how unfair, illogical, sexist it appears. Nobody sane says somoethign is right as a god, relgion book, cleric, rule etc says so.
They sit in judgement over the god, law, etc and judge it be logical, rational, fairness standards to see if they shape up
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@ComboTheCat if you have that much doubt in the quran Allah S.W.T challenges people like you in the quran
Chapter 2, Verse 23: And if you (Arab pagans, jews and christians) are in doubt concerning that which we have sent down (the quran) to our slave (Prophet Mohammed , Peace be upon him) then produce a surah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allah if you are truthful.
missmillionmaker 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker
Thak you, you just proved the quran is evil nonsense with the phrase
'(the quran) to our slave'
anythign promoting slavoury and similar hirachy is to be banned
Plus the line 'then produce a surah (chapter) of the like thereof ' is silly
its like saying go write a chpater in the words of Shakespere, heavey metal style, hip hop style, etc.
To work out truth go do a mythbusters tv show like experiment to see if somethign is busted, plausable or confirmed
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@ComboTheCat Islam is not the only religion in the world that preaches modesty, you have it Christianity and Judaism, but what you see amongst Christians and Jews is not so much modesty in the way they dress, because the way they dress has evolved in terms of culture and its been separated from religion, meaning the way they dress has nothing to do with thier religious beliefs unlike Islam.
unitedcoloursofAfg 1 month ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg Aggree. All of the abramanic relgions are deranged girl and gay bashying psychols with a history of child, gays, girl, witch bashing following psychotic scitzophrenics, peados and sexists.
Hence whilst not relgious Id only support the attiudes, culture and values of wicca and buddisim.
However many jews and christians dont follow it as fanatically as in the past whilst islam is like the inquistion still as fantically deranged as always.
Modesty is bad
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg
Modesty is like a smart person acting dumb, like a sporty fit cool persoan acting like a nurdy wuss,
You should be pround and confident in yourself and for girls more in their sexaulity, but not to the point of bitchy bully arrogance (think certian celebrities ie Niaomi Cambel).
There is also the common sense of dont try and do too much too young before you are able to handle it, basics first.
You should make the most of your looks whilst their last
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@ComboTheCat
LOL, I know right life's too short, you should make the best of your looks. But, I would argue within certain boudaries. I mean you just want to come across in society as someone who is confident and intelligent.
unitedcoloursofAfg 1 month ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg
general rule is not too much , too young, wait till teens andthen do things sensibly
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg
Clearly islam and quran dont work if peoepl who read and go it its schools create and enforce rules liek girls cannot drive, go to school, wear trousers, date, make love to those of their choosing etc withtou risk of violence or death
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@ComboTheCat what an idiot ! u clearly have no knowledge abt islam. Saudia Arabia DOES NOT represent Islam. there is no such thing as girls cannot drive in islam. there is no such thing in islam as women cannot get education . there is no such thing in islam that women cant wear trousers. and YES they are allowed to make love to those of thier choosing through marriage. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that . get of that chair and go get some education.
missmillionmaker 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker
Oh Im not simily thinking of Saudi Arabia, we have afganistan where girls were stoned to death for going to school, sudan where they arrested a teacher for naming a teddybear mohumed, somalia where they stone 13 year olds for dating and female genital mutilate, nigeria where they death threat girls schools, sentencing to stoning, iran hanging girls for sex, stoning, iraq where they flog selves and murder girls for playing with guys, etc
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
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ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker you know what at the end of the day it boils down to whatever your heart tells you is the right thing to do and if wearing the Niqab or Hijab, makes you feel good then by all means go for it. I simply stated my opinion above because to me it just doesn't make sense to wear you heart on your sleeve or in this case on your head. The meaning of Islam is not attached to clothing, its supposed to be something spiritual from within. illustrative in your dailyactions
unitedcoloursofAfg 1 month ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg mate , there is no need to change Islam just to fit in to the western world . There is a lot to be proud of just being Muslim. Yes , Islam is a belief but Allah commanded us this in the quran. There is no need for ur opinion of which is Commanded from the one who created you and I. the meaning of islam has a lot to do with the hijaab/niqaab because if you loved god more than this world, you would surely have worn it because Allah commanded it in the quran.
missmillionmaker 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker
A anyone commands you you kick them in the nuts. Leaders serve the people, if they are not up to scratch you kick them out of power..
You need to change islam to make it gay friendly, progressive, equal attiudes to both sexes, sexaully relaxed associating sexaulity with cuddles and romance, no more fanticaisim, no more irrationality, no more unfairness to the sexes, less god more real peoepl caring remove 95% of laws relaceing with general guidlines,
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@missmillionmaker My goodness me change Islam?! Are you for real! I am just one grain of sand in the desert of Islam. That being said, I stick to my opinion because to ME that is what feels right. There is no universalness to Islam. Yes there are aspects of Islam that are universal to all of us that call ourselves Muslim, but things like what you wear or how long your beard has to be for men are not universal and are not indicators of Islam, period.
unitedcoloursofAfg 1 month ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg Yes change things. Pleanty of people have started big changes like Rosa parks and Martin luther king stopping segregation, Likewise Nelson Mandella in South Africa, you have Ghandi who got the brits out of India, Joan of Arc who in teens led the French to kick out English Oppressors, who now have gay rights and marriage, an end to slavoury, votes for women, etc
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg check your Personal messages.
missmillionmaker 1 month ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg So we change our islam to it "fit" in huh? BS. while you are suppose to be supporting our sisters you go against?! Not all believe it is waajib. but what is more beautiful then imitating the sahabiyas. If you knew about the niqab you would know that it has to be taken off for VALID security reasons. like when your going to court so you can be identified, Otherwise you don't need to see her face. Mashallah to all the sisters who do it for the sake of Allah.
Destinay4lyf 1 month ago
@Destinay4lyf No its aint for yoru allah as any all powerful god would not think of anythign so daft and restrictive for women,
Everyone needs to see everyoen elses face to identify them, if muslim dont want to be seen as nutjobs then they need to mix and stop being insane.
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@Destinay4lyf No, I am not saying that we should make our Islam fit, because you and I both know that our religion is the greatest, so why should we be ashamed of it, BUT why does it have to be linked to clothing?? I mean I'm not an advocate of slutty clothes, but I mean modesty is so subjective is it not? Why are a large portion of women burqas in welfare with little to no income? Why are they not in higher positions where they can showcase their knowledge in the West?
unitedcoloursofAfg 1 month ago
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@unitedcoloursofAfg WELL
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because you and I both know that our religion is the greatest,
ER NO IT IS NOT. Islamic countries tend to be very sexist, violent, homophobic, girls sex trafficed into arranged marriages, honour killing, unfair sexist laws, sexaully repressive purity.. girls scared to show face to guys, segregation, both of boys & girls and muslsim and non muslims, sunii vs shia suicide bombings, acid attacks on girls for school, fanatical thinking r
etc
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg
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our religion is the greatest, so why should we be ashamed of it
sexisim, sunni vs shia, suicide bombings and terrorisim, girls acid attacked, flogged, imprisioned and exectied or murdered for wearign trousers, going to school, driving cars, choosing boyfriends, making love, sexaul segregation, the number of fantical thinkiners etxc
there is plenty ot be ashamed of... compare to say harmless buddisim
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
@Destinay4lyf I mean this is a way of life that we all have to accept. I am sure that God does not want us to live in vain, Allah is the most gracious and the most mericful therefore why do we do this to ourselves when in reality its what's in your HEART that really counts. You are one with God, no piece of cloth over your face makes you a better Muslim, and by wearing that cloth, you signal to others that you are 'better' but no one knows that except God almighty.
unitedcoloursofAfg 1 month ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg It does matter by what is in the heart. But look at it this way. You can't be going around saying I am a muslim from the heart it doesn't matter what's on the outside because if you truely do love Allah then you love the the deen he has sent to us. Islam is a way of life. The sahabiyas, THE MOST LOVED OF THE UMMAH, dressed like that and they are better than us. Will you go against it? Allah is Gafoor ur Raheem and the doors of repentance are always open.
Destinay4lyf 1 month ago
@Destinay4lyf Better idea, think with logic not emotion. People matter gods dont, practicality over rules, rationality not blind obedience etc
ComboTheCat 1 month ago
When I see someone wearing a mask, I always wonder. 'What are they hiding?'
AbuBishir 1 year ago
@AbuBishir
EXACTLY!! You wonder what thier hiding and yet the whole point is to 'detract' attention from people, when its clearly 'attracting' attention and curiosity in the west!
I am a Muslim myself and it makes me angry when veiled women complain about thier rights not being fulfilled when clearly its an identity crisis! the west is not 9th century Babylon. France is doing this because of thier own security..and frankly I don't blame them! Who the hell am I speaking to under that veil?
unitedcoloursofAfg 1 year ago 10
@unitedcoloursofAfg So you didn't know who you were speaking to when you were talking to your mom under her blue chaadary? Beghayrat :)
LankanLover4Ever 10 months ago
@LankanLover4Ever
wow nice Farsi commin' from a Sri Lankan, its to bad u only learned the bad words though. Try to strengthen ur vocabulary with some positive adjectives :)
unitedcoloursofAfg 10 months ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg
just because the user name says lankan doesnt mean im from sri lanka ;) Open your mind, in more than one way :) Yag do roza da khaarej ter kadee, khoda khaariji fiqir kadee hamraye comment et? Maadarkalanaye too chaadaree mepoosheed, besharm beghayrat sell out :)
LankanLover4Ever 10 months ago
@LankanLover4Ever
Mebakshen, awal baraye shoma wa hame Afghanhaiem eteram daram.
Ma kudom Mohmadzai nestum, na kudam uzbe khanadane shahe, familem yak famile mohtaram hast wa hech kudam e shan chadaree name posheedan. What I mean by chadaree is burqa.
Ma as deen wa mazhabe khud fakhir daram, magar poshedan e burqa Islam nest, dewanage wa becharage hast.
Khuda kuna ke shoma ware mardum cheshmaye tona waz kunen wa mahnaye zindagi ra behfamen. Khusosan zindai yak zane Afghan ra.
unitedcoloursofAfg 10 months ago
@unitedcoloursofAfg
ma wa familham 22 saal dar canada ter kardem mager 5 saala ke budum kabul da yaadem myaaya ke maadarem chadaree mepoosheed. Mefamum ke burqa dar islam zarror nest magar yak kam zara ehteraami baraye culturema baayad daashtabaashem. Khush shudum ke yag afghanema dar youtube mareefee shudum. Roz e khush barayetaan mekhayum. Salaam
LankanLover4Ever 10 months ago
@AbuBishir I always wonder if they are going to rob me,lol!
lucy9359 10 months ago
I had been a SCHOOL BUS DRIVER, driving for 2 separate popular school bus companies, driiving for public and catholic school boards, IN FULL VEIL!
I don't see through my nose, my mouth, my chin, cheeks or forehead. I don't know what planet this police officer comes from and where his people's eyes are located, but here on earth, they are between our nose and forehead, you know that place that is NOT COVERED by a veil.
UmTayyabCheryfaJamal 1 year ago
Cmon those rags exist to protect from cold or extreme heat radiation , does france look like an arsh desert? NoOoO
poweressen 1 year ago
of course its a bloody safety issue. How can she see to her left or her right And why if she has 2 cover up for modesty is she plastered with thick black eyeliner?? Bloody hypocites these fanatics. Go 2 an islamic state & live in peace & harmony where u will look like every other muslim.
TheDharma76 1 year ago
@TheDharma76 good point!...shes somewhat overdone it with the eyeliner
jeaniehopkirk2 10 months ago
Of course he has the right to fine her! It's illegal to wear a full-face burqa in France!
jublywubly 1 year ago
If you want your reg freedom then move back to an isliamic state were the law is mainly based on your culture and religon. Why move to another country and have them convert to your way of life.
jlockuptj 1 year ago
@jlockuptj I agree. And it is also a matter of principle and safety. If she is allowed to wear the veil then everybody is allowed, right? Then criminals and thiefs could wear it permanently, which would be indeed interesting :-).
AliciaDupres 1 year ago 4
@AliciaDupres or we should all be allowed to put paper bags over our heads with eyes cut out go to the bank and then the grocery store and drive down the free way...would we get arrested??? Yes indeed we would. Now what about wearing a balaclafa in Canada go ahead I dare you it is pretty cold here but put that on and try to get in public and you will be arrested so fast your head won't spin...these people really need to be realizing a few things!
lucy9359 10 months ago
@jlockuptj Kind of like the illegal mexican population in our country. They expect our country to cater to them while they proceed to turn this country into mexico. I don't think we are given the courtesy of "dialing 1 for English" in their country. Only in America, folks!
Raine419 1 year ago
@Raine419 you know what we say down here in Canada eh? We are glad for your faulty imigration laws though I would rather take you Mexican problem any day than to have so many of these flooding into our country at least Mexicans are not wanting to kill you all with by slitting your throats with a blunt knife if you don't bow to their religion...
lucy9359 10 months ago
stupid french kuffars just by language u can see how sick they r gay language xD
beingniqabi 1 year ago
There is nothing wrong with her vision. You can see fine out of one of those. Like she said, the helmet limits more than cloth (that is not even covering your eyes). Can you people not see her eyes? if you can see her she can see you.
SumireIsrafel 1 year ago
@SumireIsrafel
so when she breaks suddenly that rediculous letterbox will never slip down over her eyes? i reckon there's a good chance it would, so therefor she is a risk to other road users, i dont give a fuck about here.
phucoff1 1 year ago
@phucoff1 no because they are tied up tightly. and the second layer of niqaab is a very sheer see through material , in which u can still see through. how is that any different to someone`s hair flapping about in front of thier eyes??
claychick 1 year ago
@claychick
not the stinkin muslim women i've seen do that. so therefore you all you can see is what you see when you post a letter in the postbox!
girls with long hair get told to tie it back ya incase you didn't know, dont tell me you've seen it flapping about which i know you'll make up!
phucoff1 1 year ago
Of course, this is the most outrageous think, to see a woman driving with face completely cover. Where is the safety. That is the most disgusting example of how badly wrong it is.
porto64able 1 year ago
@porto64able you dont need to have ur mouth and nose open to see where to drive only ur eyes . and her eyes were open and clear at the sides. thats all u need to see where to drive . ur eyes
claychick 1 year ago
These extremists should leave France and move to a country where they would obviously feel more comfortable. They do not fit in in a western society.
showlink 1 year ago
@showlink they are not extreme they just following islam correclty. and they are FRENCH BORN AND BRED why should they move, they have just as much right to stay as anyone else.
claychick 1 year ago
@claychick There is no requirement in Islam to wear a niqab/burqa. Whether or not they are born in France does not mean they should stay if they can not accept the culture in France.
showlink 1 year ago 2
@showlink
from quran
Surah An-Nur, Verses #30 and #31
‘And Say to the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, head cover, apron), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)
claychick 1 year ago
@claychick I'm sure there are hundreds of interpretation of these verses written 100s of yrs ago and nowhere does it say a woman must cover in the form of a burqa or niqab.
showlink 1 year ago
@showlink
what the women did when the verse to cover was revealed
Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Hadith # 282
Narrated Safiya bint Shaiba (Radhiallaahu Ánha) "Aisha (Radhiallaahu Ánha) used to say: "When (the Verse): "They should draw their veils over their necks and bosoms," was revealed, (the ladies) cut their waist sheets at the edges and covered their faces with the cut pieces.
claychick 1 year ago
ok so tell me in order to stay in france i have to do what exaclty ???????
because they wear that , that means they have to go???? HOW about if i walked around all day with a medical mask on?? same thing still apply????
so in order to please you i have to take off my clothes and remain unmodest, just to please you?
claychick 1 year ago
@claychick Now how many people do you see walking around with medical masks on except for maybe Michael Jackson and who has been asked to remove their clothes to remain unmodest. Keep it real. This dress is for fanatics and converts.
showlink 1 year ago
I do not think that the veil should be fully banned... though it isn't acceptable for people like teachers or other public sector
having said that... this women is EXTREMELY hypocrtical... she wears the burqa to protect her beauty and modesty yet she's wearing eyeliner and mascara????
lisalilsmartass 1 year ago
pffffffffff les polisier sé des raciste a point sé tous!!!!!!!! la burka en forceeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!e fadéla amara vas se faire enculer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nadou2010 1 year ago