The Canon HF200 is showing the 'rolling shutter' effect that shows the signal from the CCD is taking longer to process compared to the Panasonic. Based on your test video I'd go with the Panasonic plus the 'softer' image looks better and is a step closer to achieving the often quoted 'film look'
Wow - this is opposite to my opinion of the Panasonic. I mount my HDC-SD20 inside my airplane and the footage is basically unuseable. The same mount with my Samsung miniDV camera produces no ill effects. It's like the vibration modulates the video processing and creates a wild wobbling effect. OIS on or off it's still there.
This jello effect is characteristic every CMOS chip and have name "rolling shutter". CCD chip dont have this problem and this is only choice for recording where is camera under vibration. Image stabilization in cameras can help but problem is that picture look much "slower". So, for in-car recording YOU NEED CCD hip!!!
Great review. I saw this in my mailbox as a video response to my video and when I went to authorize it, I couldn't find it. Did you remove it?
Anyhow, I used a RAM mount (short arm) in my video, but I suspect my suspension, lower profile tires, and near solid engine/motor mounts make it look even worse.
I'd actually accept the vibration you see in your video. It's certainly not ideal, but I didn't buy my HF200 solely for track days.
Didn't remove it, not sure what happened ? Oh well, I sent a response again. Sounds like you are using the same mount I am. Boxers are nice, aren't they ? ;)
The canon has a brighter image, slightly more colorful.
However I always think the Panasonic has a softer look about it, maybe a little similar to a proper movie camera shot on film to give it a darker look.
haha of course I've tried that silly rabbit. There's no significant difference with it on/off. My Canon HV30 had the same issue, worse actually.
GTwagon 1 year ago
Great way of testing cameras! Engine sounds good.
The Canon HF200 is showing the 'rolling shutter' effect that shows the signal from the CCD is taking longer to process compared to the Panasonic. Based on your test video I'd go with the Panasonic plus the 'softer' image looks better and is a step closer to achieving the often quoted 'film look'
TK42138 1 year ago
what's the name of the video editor that you used?
simulation17 1 year ago
@simulation17 Sony Vegas Pro
GTwagon 1 year ago
@GTwagon i want that same one but im only 17 i cant aford it.
simulation17 1 year ago
I wish I saw this before purchasing my HF200 :(
Figure out that Canon's OIS just go into resonance with in-car shakes and produce such a bad wobbly effect.
pakoVR6 1 year ago
poor white balance... it was not in room light, any camera should do right balance but this poor panasonic
maoerben 1 year ago
Wow - this is opposite to my opinion of the Panasonic. I mount my HDC-SD20 inside my airplane and the footage is basically unuseable. The same mount with my Samsung miniDV camera produces no ill effects. It's like the vibration modulates the video processing and creates a wild wobbling effect. OIS on or off it's still there.
KevinThePenniless 1 year ago
Good clip, myself have thought about buying the Panasonic HDC-SD20 when I can afford, and when you see this clip, you'll be more eager to buy it=).
audirobban 1 year ago
Is this shot with the IS off? It makes a big difference. IS always looks like that on a CMOS cam...If it's off then I'd say sell the canon to me :)
modlifeproductions 1 year ago
The Panasonic has a weird color cast.
poolboyinla 2 years ago
Yes I noticed that, it was there pre-editing as well. I left it on AWB, maybe setting it manually would produce a better colour.
GTwagon 2 years ago
Panasonic FOR THE WIN
and nice Subaru
anessabanovic 2 years ago
This jello effect is characteristic every CMOS chip and have name "rolling shutter". CCD chip dont have this problem and this is only choice for recording where is camera under vibration. Image stabilization in cameras can help but problem is that picture look much "slower". So, for in-car recording YOU NEED CCD hip!!!
folerx 2 years ago
Great review. I saw this in my mailbox as a video response to my video and when I went to authorize it, I couldn't find it. Did you remove it?
Anyhow, I used a RAM mount (short arm) in my video, but I suspect my suspension, lower profile tires, and near solid engine/motor mounts make it look even worse.
I'd actually accept the vibration you see in your video. It's certainly not ideal, but I didn't buy my HF200 solely for track days.
Nice car btw. :)
Digitalfiendscom 2 years ago
Didn't remove it, not sure what happened ? Oh well, I sent a response again. Sounds like you are using the same mount I am. Boxers are nice, aren't they ? ;)
GTwagon 2 years ago
The canon has a brighter image, slightly more colorful.
However I always think the Panasonic has a softer look about it, maybe a little similar to a proper movie camera shot on film to give it a darker look.
bodleytunes 2 years ago
It certainly isn't a bad picture, just not as crisp. As you said, its more of a cinema look to it.
GTwagon 2 years ago