the way i do this technique is i grab it and automatically sweep to mount and pull the locked up shou;der to me whilst keeping my head down, thus making it legal because it is a shoulder lock and not cranking the neck at all..
I did this submission by accident the other day. I locked up my friend's shoulder when I began to lose grip of my guillotine, and I saw an opportunity for the crank while I sweeping him. He tapped after I rolled him on his back :D
only illegal in tournaments if the ref knows what youre doing... sadly at most local bjj tournies the refs dont. Id agree when you say its only dangerous if you crank on it. Great sweep when you cant get the guillatine off. Either way, everyone needs to be aware of this technique.
Thanks, good point. In terms of the sport side to this, most, if not all reputable tournaments, cervical locks and neck cranks are restricted. More precisely, this technique puts pressure on the cervical spine. There is a complex system of ligaments, tendons, and muscles to help support and stabilize this area, however undue torque could cause an injury. Just as with any submission, training partners should be aware of the dangers and take the necessary care.
Thank you. You can absolutely work this directly from the mount as well. As it is with all techniques, there are counters and defenses to this one, but you can also use this to isolate the arm that is underhooked. So, I consider this a versatile technique.
the way i do this technique is i grab it and automatically sweep to mount and pull the locked up shou;der to me whilst keeping my head down, thus making it legal because it is a shoulder lock and not cranking the neck at all..
austinblack95 7 months ago
I did this submission by accident the other day. I locked up my friend's shoulder when I began to lose grip of my guillotine, and I saw an opportunity for the crank while I sweeping him. He tapped after I rolled him on his back :D
Charkoly2 1 year ago
@Charkoly2 Well played!
TheJiuJitsuFighter 1 year ago
kool
thierrykurt 1 year ago
This technique can also be done from a single leg takedown.
19thaman79 1 year ago
only illegal in tournaments if the ref knows what youre doing... sadly at most local bjj tournies the refs dont. Id agree when you say its only dangerous if you crank on it. Great sweep when you cant get the guillatine off. Either way, everyone needs to be aware of this technique.
drourke 2 years ago
I dont know if it is illegal on submission, but it should be. puts the well being of the fighter in extreme danger........
pett1977 3 years ago
Thanks, good point. In terms of the sport side to this, most, if not all reputable tournaments, cervical locks and neck cranks are restricted. More precisely, this technique puts pressure on the cervical spine. There is a complex system of ligaments, tendons, and muscles to help support and stabilize this area, however undue torque could cause an injury. Just as with any submission, training partners should be aware of the dangers and take the necessary care.
TheJiuJitsuFighter 3 years ago
isso é chave cervical e não crucifixo
ricpuleo 3 years ago
My portuguese is limited, but I understand your comment to be that this is called a Cervical key and not a Crucifix. Thank you. That makes sense.
TheJiuJitsuFighter 3 years ago
Thank you. You can absolutely work this directly from the mount as well. As it is with all techniques, there are counters and defenses to this one, but you can also use this to isolate the arm that is underhooked. So, I consider this a versatile technique.
TheJiuJitsuFighter 3 years ago
ohhhhhh i see
yankeefan369 3 years ago
its called the 100 % isnt it?
yankeefan369 3 years ago
In the 10PJJ system, it is called the 100%. When I learned this technique in 2003, we never had a name for it.
TheJiuJitsuFighter 3 years ago
@yankeefan369 I think the sweep aspect is called the 100% not the crank.
19thaman79 1 year ago