l ancien hockeneim ca c ete des circuits c 'est une honte d avoir modifier un circuit pareil surtout pour voir ce qu il est devenu en 2001 faire pousser des arbres sur les grandes lignes droites de ce circuit sont une honte la courbe de ostkurve completement depisaget et meme plus un bout de corcuit HONTE A LA F1 MODENRE ET A CES HOMMES QUI N ONT AUCUNE PASSION A LA COURSE AUTOMOBILE HONTE A CES VAURIENS -_-
c est une honte q un circuit comme ca aussi long et aussi beau ne soit plus utiliser pour les f1 je vous jure la f1 moderne avec leur glamour a la con ont pris le dessus au moins a cette époque ca y aller au maximum je regrette énormément cette époque honte a la f1 moderne a part les machines sont exceptionelles le reste est stupides
@maman7178 : Les machines du présent sont stupéfiantes, mais ils sont mieux convenus pour voler à Mars que courir. Leur complexité technique pour 2011 est ridicule. Surtout, ceci gonfle les egos des ingénieurs.
@12345andy54321 that's because of the camera on top the car. In those days they weren't that small as they are today. They were video camera's and not digital.
@12345andy54321 : Pironi has a Cosworth-Ford V8, and for the most part I believe he's following two flat-12s, a Ferrari and an Alfa Romeo, and they both seem to absolutely smoke him on the straightaways. Since putting a camera on a car was a performance-robbing hassle in those days, one can't be sure about whether that handicaps significantly.
Ah, this nice long old track and this cars with aluminium chassis.
Imagine how the feet of these drivers must have hurt because of gearshifting.Put your foot away from the throttle, push the clutch pedal, move gear shifter, put away foot from clutch and accelerate again.
It's awesome to see that brabham ahead with Alfa v12 pulling away in the straights, and then the nimble tyrell catches back in corners. Such difference in the cars made it so much more interesting. And ofcourse the old track :c
Didier "deserved what he got"...what a terrible thing to say. I can't believe some of the insults people still throw at Pironi. Watch the Imola 82 race and you will see he actually didn't do anything wrong.
I miss this track so much...It might have been boring to some...but it had charm...when they cut it up into pieces for the new track....it was a sad day for F1..Didier deserved what he got...selfish racer.
Skilled driver, but too arrogant to be the World Champion. His career ending crash was provoked by an unnecessary risk that he took in a very wet practice session. After Gilles Villeneuve was killed at Zolder, Pironi had the title in his grasp until he was beaten by the only man who could stop him: himself.
Happened to Mike Hawthorn too in 1958. Sadly Stirling Moss had 4 victories and lost the title to Hawthorn who just had 1.
Rosberg was a smart driver. His cool win in dreadful conditions in Dallas 1984 proves that. Also he won the rain soaked BRDC in Silverstone in 1978 driving a Theodore-Ford outdriving two time champion Emerson Fittipaldi. Others like Lauda, Hunt, Andretti and Peterson all spun out. Not Keke is his 2nd F1 start.
Well said...and Didier wouldn't have made the mistake Arnoux and Tambay made in 83 and thrown the title away. Pironi drove for Ferrari, therefore he is one of us.
we miss... old hocken , old nurburgring , zeltweg , i m here thinking , what the fuck am i going to show to my son which is one year old now.... while the fia constantly seems to search for money and not sport and entertainment... last thing .... dudes... prepare .... we are going to see races in india ... bloody hell !!! in 2011... where the fuck will be f 1 in 15 years , and last imola was destroyed after senna s death , chicanes and more chicanes ... so long , hug from brasil
F.I.A. just wants to race in places where they can make money...i mean, if you race in bahrain you will have just 2000 people lookin' the race, in the nurburgring you can have 10 times more people, but in bahrain the people will pay 10 times more than in nurburgring... and like this, F1 ends in shit...-.-"
@aljuk Totally Agree With You!!! I. myself, can't stand Tilka's new tracks! Ah, the old days... Don't see why, with all the safety (cars and tracks), we couldn't have some of the old Greats back.
Same track, four years later Didier had his terrible WC leadership and career-ending crash. What a shame
mellilore 3 weeks ago
pironi goes hard into turn 8 @ 3:21
mata94ventura 1 month ago
l ancien hockeneim ca c ete des circuits c 'est une honte d avoir modifier un circuit pareil surtout pour voir ce qu il est devenu en 2001 faire pousser des arbres sur les grandes lignes droites de ce circuit sont une honte la courbe de ostkurve completement depisaget et meme plus un bout de corcuit HONTE A LA F1 MODENRE ET A CES HOMMES QUI N ONT AUCUNE PASSION A LA COURSE AUTOMOBILE HONTE A CES VAURIENS -_-
maman7178 2 months ago
Have you ever seen a "race" with... a speed limit??!! Now you have it: it's called "Formula One" (sic)
Our grand-fathers engineers who spent their lives making cars faster and safer wouldn't believe it.
Tue 02 Aug 2011 20:47 GMT
Merlin1940 6 months ago
giù a tavoletta!
FASTBOOBS 7 months ago
Hermann Tilke deprived the soul of this old circuit.
MaartenEvertse 9 months ago
0:27 RIP fly
Mahuu55 11 months ago 2
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Mahuu55 11 months ago
Geez how gnarly was the " old " ostkerve !!!!!
hnfdhh 1 year ago
This track was made for Motorsport - The new track is made for money. :(
What a shame. This track was classic!
ledaf41 1 year ago
@ledaf41 most definetely
mata94ventura 1 month ago
thats perfect!
Rusikindusik 1 year ago
c est une honte q un circuit comme ca aussi long et aussi beau ne soit plus utiliser pour les f1 je vous jure la f1 moderne avec leur glamour a la con ont pris le dessus au moins a cette époque ca y aller au maximum je regrette énormément cette époque honte a la f1 moderne a part les machines sont exceptionelles le reste est stupides
maman7178 1 year ago 3
@maman7178 : Les machines du présent sont stupéfiantes, mais ils sont mieux convenus pour voler à Mars que courir. Leur complexité technique pour 2011 est ridicule. Surtout, ceci gonfle les egos des ingénieurs.
unwindout 11 months ago
That Tyrrell doesnt seem quick in a straight line
12345andy54321 1 year ago
@12345andy54321 that's because of the camera on top the car. In those days they weren't that small as they are today. They were video camera's and not digital.
digoclocks 1 year ago
@12345andy54321 : Pironi has a Cosworth-Ford V8, and for the most part I believe he's following two flat-12s, a Ferrari and an Alfa Romeo, and they both seem to absolutely smoke him on the straightaways. Since putting a camera on a car was a performance-robbing hassle in those days, one can't be sure about whether that handicaps significantly.
unwindout 11 months ago
I hate the middle east tracks they always throw up boring races on lifeless deserts. What is wrong with people these days?
araregoodguy 1 year ago 5
Ah, this nice long old track and this cars with aluminium chassis.
Imagine how the feet of these drivers must have hurt because of gearshifting.Put your foot away from the throttle, push the clutch pedal, move gear shifter, put away foot from clutch and accelerate again.
specko0623 1 year ago
D: I wouldnt even step into that thing let alone going 150+ mph D:
jraybay 1 year ago
still can't believe they totally raped this track
NoogDeNoog 1 year ago
It's awesome to see that brabham ahead with Alfa v12 pulling away in the straights, and then the nimble tyrell catches back in corners. Such difference in the cars made it so much more interesting. And ofcourse the old track :c
launger 1 year ago
Yes, they fucked it all.
lococurling 1 year ago
this is Hockenheim!!!!
fedesapo83 1 year ago 2
thats right.i too think that the old track was better as the new
TheLukas12364 1 year ago
Didier "deserved what he got"...what a terrible thing to say. I can't believe some of the insults people still throw at Pironi. Watch the Imola 82 race and you will see he actually didn't do anything wrong.
hugodrax71 1 year ago
I miss this track so much...It might have been boring to some...but it had charm...when they cut it up into pieces for the new track....it was a sad day for F1..Didier deserved what he got...selfish racer.
FAYCHI69 2 years ago
I enjoyed the days when F1 had race cars, not four-wheeled computers.
richdeveau24 2 years ago
Skilled driver, but too arrogant to be the World Champion. His career ending crash was provoked by an unnecessary risk that he took in a very wet practice session. After Gilles Villeneuve was killed at Zolder, Pironi had the title in his grasp until he was beaten by the only man who could stop him: himself.
FrodothePuppet 2 years ago 2
@FrodothePuppet
Ferrari asked Pironi to test the new Good Year wet tyres at Hockenheim. He didn't do it because of arrogance.
hugodrax71 1 year ago
And then THE wonder happened: Keke Rosberg became champion with just one victory.
KillerDreck89 1 year ago
@KillerDreck89
Happened to Mike Hawthorn too in 1958. Sadly Stirling Moss had 4 victories and lost the title to Hawthorn who just had 1.
Rosberg was a smart driver. His cool win in dreadful conditions in Dallas 1984 proves that. Also he won the rain soaked BRDC in Silverstone in 1978 driving a Theodore-Ford outdriving two time champion Emerson Fittipaldi. Others like Lauda, Hunt, Andretti and Peterson all spun out. Not Keke is his 2nd F1 start.
Rosberg didn't have the best car in 1982.
SteveSpicerPortsmuth 1 year ago
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stadioazteca 2 years ago
Didier still in my memories
alphafloor71 3 years ago 10
pironi...one of the most underrated drivers, if not the most underrated, in F1 history
stadioazteca 3 years ago 3
Some of theme absolutly! 1982 was his Championship, he was the fastest.
pirlone808 2 years ago 3
didier was a brilliant racer, his career ended just as he was approaching his peak in F1...
stadioazteca 2 years ago
I agree. Great driver. He was the true 1982 champion. Once in Ferrari, always in Ferrari.
Zeusdattilo 2 years ago
Well said...and Didier wouldn't have made the mistake Arnoux and Tambay made in 83 and thrown the title away. Pironi drove for Ferrari, therefore he is one of us.
stadioazteca 2 years ago
Sure. He is still one of us.
Zeusdattilo 2 years ago
Didier was a huge driver...He was a champion
GIONNY22 3 years ago 3
man do i miss the old Hockenheimring
f1guy17 3 years ago 31
we miss... old hocken , old nurburgring , zeltweg , i m here thinking , what the fuck am i going to show to my son which is one year old now.... while the fia constantly seems to search for money and not sport and entertainment... last thing .... dudes... prepare .... we are going to see races in india ... bloody hell !!! in 2011... where the fuck will be f 1 in 15 years , and last imola was destroyed after senna s death , chicanes and more chicanes ... so long , hug from brasil
rdtli 3 years ago 4
this track ended his career later in 82.... the true champ of 82 , rip pironi
hug from brasil
rdtli 3 years ago 4
F.I.A. just wants to race in places where they can make money...i mean, if you race in bahrain you will have just 2000 people lookin' the race, in the nurburgring you can have 10 times more people, but in bahrain the people will pay 10 times more than in nurburgring... and like this, F1 ends in shit...-.-"
darkspugna92 2 years ago 5
Geniale!!!!! Dommage que les mouches a merde se scratchent sur la camera.....
ciboulette206 3 years ago 10
Great clip, many thanks for sharing. Smooth as you like, great speed in a car that let him down so often.
Truly great driver.
fauvenik 4 years ago 5
ah.. looks so summerous..
juhdiakathat 4 years ago
He should have been the first French F1 Champion of the world.
He was a king.
Rather good than Rosberg or Villneuve, Arnoux or prost.
bouilll 4 years ago 3
I really miss the blast through the forest. I hate the modern circuit revisions.
aljuk 4 years ago 49
Yeah, I loved the slipstreaming battles on those straights. And all the trees made you realize how fast they were going.
amjan 4 years ago 7
@aljuk Totally Agree With You!!! I. myself, can't stand Tilka's new tracks! Ah, the old days... Don't see why, with all the safety (cars and tracks), we couldn't have some of the old Greats back.
magnusxxx 1 year ago 2
Excellent videos really lovin them..
FM77 5 years ago
old hockeinheim with the long straight!! That was something!! Nowadays modifications of hockeinheim are really terrible :-(
basic86 5 years ago 4
hockenheim without chicane before ostkurve - awesome!
adalbero 5 years ago 3
C´était un grand champion.... Comme Gilles....
MIGUELBO 5 years ago
Absolute awesome!
I love all the clips you've posted of the F1's old days. Thaks for sharing it!
Batigol74 5 years ago