I had terrible wobble from the ATC2K that I thought was from the rubber dampners on the handlebars. I attached it to my Buell and discovered the wind was the culprit. I could keep the wobble down if I braced or pulled the heavy front end of the camera and braced it. Never totally got rid of it and now I use a POVHD camera. Way better results. I'll upload the first one I shot with it zip tied to my turn signal stalk. I have some video's posted from the ATC.
@Anticitizen419 no, it isn't. How much heat do you think is coming from my HD's handlebars? I mounted the thing right next to the engine on my Buell and no diff.
hey man just a tip, I used that grippy drawer liner to go underneath whatever i strapped my ATC-2k on (fork tube and subframe of CRF150RB and frame sliders on a 675. It helped a lot with the vibrations.
G'day, I think you'll find the wobble hard to get rid of as it's frequency related and comes from the engine vibration transmitted through the bike . note it doesn't happen when helmet mounted orhand held(hard to aim )
have a quick look at what I've filmed and you'll see the same effects going on from
Wobbly video is not caused by engine heat. All cheap CMOS cameras suffer from this effect to some degree. Do a search on "rolling shutter" to see why this happens.
I'm pretty sure that this wobble is caused by what is called a rolling shutter on the CMOS sensor. Basically, it means that the pixels are read out in rows from top to bottom, so the pixels at the bottom are actually captured later in time than those at the top. This causes severe problems in high-frequency vibration situations. Search YouTube for "Canon HV20 "jello effect"" for an even more extreme example of this CMOS shutter artifact.
i would think the vibration would just be normal vibration on any bike with slight bumps in the road and the wind blowing by.. but seeing that it still did it when you stopped i would say the piece you mounted it on might have a little bit of flex to it
The camera was strapped to the fairing using the supplied velcro strap throught the supplied mount, then once more around the back of the camera to limit movement.
if you use a High Capacity SD card, then the video quality will improve. Ideally a class 6 rating. This is the fastest recording of the SD card sizes.
But you know when I've used an 8 gig on my digicam (2 gig max) it did accept it but only recorded 2 gig at a time. Once you finished the 2 gig, you just record another 2 gig and another. etc
Yeah it can hold up to 32gb total, but only in 2gb increments. I remember they said the same thing about PSPs, when they 8gb came out. I had been using a 32gb card for over a year when they released the first 8gb card. My camera also uses it, despite only being able to use a max of 512mb. It will only record 512mb at a time, but can have 32gb total.
What's causing the "wobble", is it just the vibration of the engine?
Also, I read that the video quality is poor on youtube because of the way youtube is set up. Is that correct? Is the quality actually better then what we're seeing here?
Yes, the quality is MUCH better, but the wobble in the video is not caused by YouTube. Also, the vibration from the engine is definitely the cause of the wobble, hand holding the camera from within a car (for example) eliminates this wobble.
Nice to know the quality isn't all that bad. I did think about gettin one or a VholdR cam but purchased a Dog cam 480 with a DV500 recorder instead. Nice to see good looking chicks on bikes as well...cheers
thanks for demoing the camera, I just came across their site today and was wondering how it would fair on a motorcycle. does the camera strictly mount sideways or is there a way to rotate it so I can mount it on top of my tank but NOT have everything shot sideways?
No, you can rotate the camera within it's mount. If I left the camera at it's default location, since the bottom mount is flush against the side of my ferring would give you a sideways video, this video is right side up because I rotated the camera 90 degrees clockwise.
Good to know that it can be rotated. We have one and didn't know this. Where exactly on the camera does it rotate? The only part I can move is the back part (where the batteries are). Help!
The long (provided) velcro strap wrapped around my ferring. I was able to attach the camera mount to the velcro strap, wrap it around the ferring, then around the camera again (for stability). This method provides a fairly stable mount point since I'm double wrapping the camera, but is very ridged against the body creating vibration noise in the camera.
I had terrible wobble from the ATC2K that I thought was from the rubber dampners on the handlebars. I attached it to my Buell and discovered the wind was the culprit. I could keep the wobble down if I braced or pulled the heavy front end of the camera and braced it. Never totally got rid of it and now I use a POVHD camera. Way better results. I'll upload the first one I shot with it zip tied to my turn signal stalk. I have some video's posted from the ATC.
WillyDaC 7 months ago
that "wobble" is effect from the engine heat
Anticitizen419 1 year ago
@Anticitizen419 no, it isn't. How much heat do you think is coming from my HD's handlebars? I mounted the thing right next to the engine on my Buell and no diff.
WillyDaC 7 months ago
im going to buy one..is it a good move???..want to use it on my bicycle and snowmobile
NextSLDNX 2 years ago
This video makes me feel as if I was perpetually about to fall off of something. It must be the camera angle.
eruption257 2 years ago
hey man just a tip, I used that grippy drawer liner to go underneath whatever i strapped my ATC-2k on (fork tube and subframe of CRF150RB and frame sliders on a 675. It helped a lot with the vibrations.
p.s. do you know the lady on the 675? lol
yukonboy03 2 years ago
Thanks, I'll try that when the weather cools down a bit. And no, I no longer talk with the lady on the 675.
dyltone 2 years ago
G'day, I think you'll find the wobble hard to get rid of as it's frequency related and comes from the engine vibration transmitted through the bike . note it doesn't happen when helmet mounted orhand held(hard to aim )
have a quick look at what I've filmed and you'll see the same effects going on from
both my hornet 900 and yzf600r
sincerely djrcmach
Happy corners guys.............
DJRCMACH 2 years ago
couldn't the wobble just be heat distortion from the engine???
turbophein 3 years ago
Doubt it, the engine air vent is behind the camera but I guess anything is possible.
dyltone 3 years ago
The wobble normaly it´s generated by the high tension voltage from coil to spark plugs mate.
DaveRST 3 years ago
Wobbly video is not caused by engine heat. All cheap CMOS cameras suffer from this effect to some degree. Do a search on "rolling shutter" to see why this happens.
jcalis 3 years ago
Ace cam (without wobble) i'm using it for the GCC website; recording drives to and from meets and drives to events.
I'd totally recommend this cam.
mad101percant 3 years ago
Cool! I'm thinking of getting the ATC3K. It holds 4GB SD Card. I plan to use it to make riding vids just like you. You should post some more!
craigslistguy08 3 years ago
well, better to have a cam then nothing at all :) better than buying a camera mount for a digi cam thats for damn sure.
TheRibbonAce 3 years ago
I'm pretty sure that this wobble is caused by what is called a rolling shutter on the CMOS sensor. Basically, it means that the pixels are read out in rows from top to bottom, so the pixels at the bottom are actually captured later in time than those at the top. This causes severe problems in high-frequency vibration situations. Search YouTube for "Canon HV20 "jello effect"" for an even more extreme example of this CMOS shutter artifact.
azscott 3 years ago
i would think the vibration would just be normal vibration on any bike with slight bumps in the road and the wind blowing by.. but seeing that it still did it when you stopped i would say the piece you mounted it on might have a little bit of flex to it
nickmoore05 4 years ago
The camera was strapped to the fairing using the supplied velcro strap throught the supplied mount, then once more around the back of the camera to limit movement.
dyltone 4 years ago
if you use a High Capacity SD card, then the video quality will improve. Ideally a class 6 rating. This is the fastest recording of the SD card sizes.
snobrdr314 4 years ago
I don't believe the 2k accepts any high capacity SD cards.
dyltone 4 years ago
2gig
rpaull3 3 years ago
The 3K does I think, up to 4 gig.
But you know when I've used an 8 gig on my digicam (2 gig max) it did accept it but only recorded 2 gig at a time. Once you finished the 2 gig, you just record another 2 gig and another. etc
Maybe the 2k 3k etc is like this too?
Urbitrix 3 years ago
Yeah it can hold up to 32gb total, but only in 2gb increments. I remember they said the same thing about PSPs, when they 8gb came out. I had been using a 32gb card for over a year when they released the first 8gb card. My camera also uses it, despite only being able to use a max of 512mb. It will only record 512mb at a time, but can have 32gb total.
atomicbump 3 years ago
oh how i wish i was a seat
pokfinger1 4 years ago
Squids
extramural 4 years ago
Ummmm yeah... I'm sure you're in a position to call ANYONE a squid.
dyltone 4 years ago
Perhaps it is related to the engine noise (high voltage spark) and is getting electro-magnetic interference (EMI)
FrizB99 4 years ago
actually it's still vibrating or whatever that is. if you look the picture is always like that. that happens with a lot of cellphone cameras.
Tpena4 4 years ago
What's causing the "wobble", is it just the vibration of the engine?
Also, I read that the video quality is poor on youtube because of the way youtube is set up. Is that correct? Is the quality actually better then what we're seeing here?
fightnuttube 4 years ago
Yes, the quality is MUCH better, but the wobble in the video is not caused by YouTube. Also, the vibration from the engine is definitely the cause of the wobble, hand holding the camera from within a car (for example) eliminates this wobble.
dyltone 4 years ago
Not too bad looking for the price...looks like you guys are in Florida...where abouts?
tjstoner76 4 years ago
Boynton Beach Area.
dyltone 4 years ago
Nice to know the quality isn't all that bad. I did think about gettin one or a VholdR cam but purchased a Dog cam 480 with a DV500 recorder instead. Nice to see good looking chicks on bikes as well...cheers
deanjfk 4 years ago
I ordered the ATC2K for an upcoming trip to Hawaii. Want to video some snorkeling. thanks for the analysis.
jtegerdine 4 years ago
Thanks for that demo
reciprocum 4 years ago
thanks for demoing the camera, I just came across their site today and was wondering how it would fair on a motorcycle. does the camera strictly mount sideways or is there a way to rotate it so I can mount it on top of my tank but NOT have everything shot sideways?
kackerson 4 years ago
No, you can rotate the camera within it's mount. If I left the camera at it's default location, since the bottom mount is flush against the side of my ferring would give you a sideways video, this video is right side up because I rotated the camera 90 degrees clockwise.
dyltone 4 years ago
cool, thanks for letting me know!
kackerson 4 years ago
Good to know that it can be rotated. We have one and didn't know this. Where exactly on the camera does it rotate? The only part I can move is the back part (where the batteries are). Help!
pcameronx 4 years ago
I'm not sure how to answer this... The camera rotates within the mounting clip. There are 4 lines to note 0, 90, 180, and 270 degrees of rotation.
dyltone 4 years ago
We finally figured it out. The back part has to be taken off, then the mount can be rotated.
pcameronx 4 years ago
just one question how did you fix your atc2k ?? thanks
searchz2 4 years ago
The long (provided) velcro strap wrapped around my ferring. I was able to attach the camera mount to the velcro strap, wrap it around the ferring, then around the camera again (for stability). This method provides a fairly stable mount point since I'm double wrapping the camera, but is very ridged against the body creating vibration noise in the camera.
I hope that makes sense.
dyltone 4 years ago