Lol The creator of this vid couldnt be anymore ignorant... You arent the only relegion around and you arent the only people that "know" how the world came to be. Go study a bit science before u decide to make another vid or does science "make perfect sense" too?
The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
@timewaster0 You're missing the point, Christianity is not on the other end of the spectrum to Atheism, THEISM is. And Theism is the belief in a deity, to most meaning a creator. Which YES, does make more sense than atheism.
@TheNailoo You're missing the point as: 1. Christianity falls under the category of theism so it is technically on the other end of the spectrum to atheism.
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2. the reason I go into Christianity specifically because each theistic religion has it's own complicated story and since I'm not going out of my way to do this for every one I thought that having done one for Christianity was enough to make my point since the makers of this video are christian.
@TheNailoo also if you want me to believe that Christianity or any other religion makes more sense you're going to have to do a better job than the D-list actor and the banana man just did.
And by doing this the price of sin we are not capable of making up for was atoned for us by Jesus Christ on the cross so all who confess they are a sinner and they are responsible for their own sins and that they will turn away from sin and wage war against it and follow Jesus and do the will of the Father in heaven will be saved.We will at times mess up because it is impossible to be sinless but if we chose to stand against it and not purposely sin, continue to confess we are under God's mercy.
Why do people say that satan and demons rule hell? The bible says that satan and his fallen angels were cast to earth and that hell will be ruled by Jesus and his angels poring wrath upon all the fallen angels that turned against God and all those who sinned against God and every tongue will declare He is God and every knee will bow. If God was fare we would all go to hell but He came to earth to live the required sinless life to pass the test and pay our punishment for us. (1/2)
this is so dumb. that is not atheism. atheism is the absence of a belief in god. the atheist does not necessarily have anything belief in the origin of the universe. you are so stupid if you can't see that
@TheCandleBurns simply, you are wrong. the definition of god is not the origin of the universe. SECONDLY, that doesn't matter. You can reject this definition of god and say no he was not the origin of the universe. that doesn't mean that this person is implying they know the real origin of life. Seriously, the argument you gave is one of the worst I've ever read.
@Ollychamberlain Sorry, I didn't necessarily mean the dictionary definition; it's hard to think past the "supreme being" part. But if you do think into it at all, whatever the universe came from has to be be a "supreme being," even if not in the same state of consciousness as us, so that's impossible to actually understand. And yes, you can reject anything, that doesn't make it correct. And I wasn't trying to start an argument, I just thought I'd point that out, so don't worry about me
the belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and tell him telepathically that you accept him as your master so that he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat a magical apple from a magical tree.
God popped out of nowhere and has the 'powaaah' to create the world in 6 days, be he fails to maintain it for 6000 years. Everyone that beliefs in god is an idiot
This is a gross misrepresentation of atheism, The Big Bang Theory, The Theory of Evolution, and the correlation between them all rolled into one purely ignorant video. I'm kind of impressed.
God - Belief that suddenly there was everything and everything had always existed and then suddenly magic happened and out popped the world, dinosaurs, monkeys, clouds, a tree, rainbow, humans. Also this God named YHWH apparently took the form of a Human and did Miracles but stopped after a certain time so the only proof people have are rewritten texts of the Bible.
@MissLeanaFaith I am sorry but I have not seen the parting of seas, land engulfing floods, turning people into salt pillars, turning water into wine, people walking on water, giving people languages. Please direct me to the Youtube videos.
i don't think anyone believes everything came from nothing. how could anything come from nothing? it must have always existed. But i don't think your deity is the thing that always existed, your religion is just one out of many that was just lucky that it came to europe back in the day and was then forced on most people of the world. seriously, it could have been every religion in the world that could have been so popular, how do you know your religion is right?ThisAtheistStoryMakesMoreSence
@gigor11 You're basically saying that Christianity is essentially false because some people believe in it and others don't. What if one culture thought that 2+2 was 4 and another thought that it was 5? Is that any different? Obviously whether or not there is a God is a much more difficult question, but you can't deny that there is a correct answer, just like the correct answer to 2+2 is 4. And some people are fortunate enough to be born to parents who know the truth.
@papasazz you missed my main point, and you kinda made it for me in the end on your comment. I argue that the main reason you believe your religion is true is because you were born into it.
But you are right in saying it doesn't mean X is false, just that you have no good reason to believe X is right.
You being born into X has nothing to say about the truth of X.
Just as people who were born in a time the earth was considered flat
@gigor11 You're right, being born into Christianity has nothing to say about the truth of it. That's why I don't believe it just because my parents believe it. I've wrestled with the Bible and thought about it for myself, and what I've concluded is that Christianity makes a whole lot of sense. A person raised in Islam can read the Bible and would come to the same conclusion if he was truly seeking with his whole heart.
@papasazz question: if the holy book of religion X is divinely inspired, why is there nothing in there about scientific fact that was discovered in the lase few centuries? that is, if some all knowing entity was communicating with the authors of that holy book, why did we have to discover all of science with secular means?
@gigor11 First of all, the purpose of the Bible was not to give mankind a bunch of scientific knowledge, it was to give us an idea of who God is so that we might come to know Him and have a relationship with Him. However, there is scientific information in the Bible, like in Leviticus 13:45, Psalm 8, Job 26:7, Job 38:16, Jeremiah 33:22, and 2 Peter 3:10, just to name a few passages. But it wouldn't matter if there was nothing scientific in it, God wants us to explore His creation for ourselves.
@papasazz ye m8, but if god wants to have a relationship with us wouldn't he want us to survive deceased first? if there was some revaluation of penicillin in any holy book, to life expectancy rate would soar and there would be more people and more reason to worship a god. and if i can see that, then an all knowing god should too.
And if he is all knowing, then why does he need too rely on a collection of books written thousands of years ago to spread his message, now that we have say YouTube
@papasazz Why does he choose to keep hidden?I went over the verses you mentioned, and common m8, there are birds in the sky and fish in the sea is considered privileged info? fear of people that carry disease? do you really think so little of the human race that we needed a divine intervention to reach these conclusions? and the conclusion is: every holy book is written by people and inspired by people
@gigor11 Say that the Bible was full of scientific facts that humans couldn't have come up with on their own. Maybe then you would believe that there is a God, but that's still not enough. You would only be believing with your mind, and not your heart. God wants you to know His love, wisdom, and power, which have all been clearly demonstrated in the Bible. What good is it to God if you have proof of his existence but don't desire to be in relationship with HIm? He wants a relationship!
@papasazz If you have a relationship with something first having a good reason (in your head as you say) to believe it even exists, and all you have to go on is a feeling in your chest, then it sounds like an imaginary friend for adults
@gigor11 And regarding his choice to keep hidden: Just look around you, God's divine nature and eternal power have been clearly perceived in the things that have been made, so you are without excuse. Isn't that revelation enough? The fact that there is something as opposed to nothing. I mean, how did we get here if not by God?
No, it means we're working on belief. However, we have belief in evidence and NOT belief through faith.
Also, 0% sure God did it is NOT 100% sure that he DIDN'T do it. Its possible to be 0% sure of either case, this is called intellectual honesty. Not just picking the side which feels right.
don't you idiots get it? We believe that the big bang is the origin of the universe which didn't start from nothing. but we do believe that nothing created everything because after all, we weren't created, so nothing created us.
@TheAmorri Pfffft. Believing in a Flying Spaghetti Monster. That's almost as bad as worshipping a book written by a magical wizard who is his own father who is also a magical ghost spirit that advocates sexism, slavery, homophobia, incest, pedophilia, stoning random people for having sex, and contains multiple accounts of pornography and brutal murder. Well, now that I look at it, the Flying Spaghetti Monster seems entirely plausible compared to that.
Similarly, Christianity is the belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever in the sky if you symbolically (or, in some cases, literally) eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so that he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
Also I believe that an invisible unicorn created the universe with magic. DISPROVE ME!
Athiesm is a belief in logic and reasoning above all. Disregaring the big bang, look at the earths history. Animals that have been around for billions of years have no motive other than survival. Then humans come along, evolving from apes, and believe they are profalic somehow. humans have only been around for 2 million years.
Hahaha... it's so funny to see the word "magically" in here, when most Athiests would agree they don't believe something until they are shown evidence. Thiests are the ones that believe in magic (walking on water, water to wine, resurection, etc., etc.).
Here's an idea... admit you don't know something. Last I checked, no athiest claimed to know 100% where everything came from, but that does not equate to God creating it. How do you know 100% Thor didn't? Who created God (other than man)??
@thewayofthemaster - It always amazes me how misinformed people are about atheists. Just because someone rejects the notion of your god, doesn't automatically mean they believe in the big bang. Atheism does not equal science. Look at Buddists, many are atheist, yet they see the universe as cyclical and starts with a wind and ends with fire. Educate yourself on a subject before attacking it, thats my advice.
God is by definition cause of everything with a beginning (absolute cause). He has a beginning, because if he existed before time, he existed at some time before time, which is a contradiction, and saying he always existed timelessly is self-contradictory, since always is a temporal adverb. So he has a beginning and by definition is the cause of himself. But that sets an infinite regress. So he can't cause himself. An absolute cause who can't cause himself is self-contradictory thus impossible.
The belief that some cosmic Jewish zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you love him and that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
This is not what Atheism is. Atheism is a denial of the existance of God. Not the acceptance of the Big Bang. Please stop being such a moronic, bigoted and close-minded individual.
@thewayofthemaster I don't believe in it 100%. Given the evidence it is currently the most likely "beginning". However, I'm not completley convinced but I am 0% sure it was the work of a God. There is a difference between atheist and a believer in the big bang.
@Tnttodda Being 100% sure that God didn't do it requires absolute knowledge. Do you have absolute knowledge of all things? Then you're working on faith.
@thewayofthemaster No, you're twisting my words. Based on the current SCIENTIFIC evidence; I currently see no possible way in that a God could exist or have made the world/universe. It defies all laws of science. It is impossible.
@thewayofthemaster that's not working on faith, that's working on the evidence that has been gathered so far. as far as i know, there hasn't been any evidence gathered for the existence of any deity. and atheism =/= big bang.
@thewayofthemaster Being 100% sure that God did it requires absolute knowledge. Do you have absolute knowledge of all things? Then you're working on faith.
I believe a Flying Spaghetti Monster caused the expansion and cooling of matter in the early Universe. You can not disprove this. So by your logic you're saying that is plausible?
@TheAmorri No you're totally wrong. A magical flying invisible unicorn (along with his half-brother who was also his mother who is also a vampire who is also himself) created the universe with MAGIC RICE KRISPIES AND RAINBOWS. You can't disprove me. HA!
@thewayofthemaster in science you have never absolute knowledge but that doenst mean we shouldnt "believe" our facts. we dont know how gravity works and if its really gravity what keeps planets attracting each other but its the very best explanation there is until we find a better explanation and thats how science works.
besides that your little video is stupid. scientist dont think nothing happened to nothing and that for no reason. in quantum mechanics nothing (vacuum) seems to be something.
@thewayofthemaster muslims and hindus and other people from other religions are 100% sure your god didn't do it, and do they have absolute knowledge? no. doesn't that mean you need absolute knowledge allah or vishnu didn't do it? what makes god so special?
@thewayofthemaster That's not how it works. While I can never be 100 percent sure that any supernatural creature didn't create the world, I can say with 100 [percent absolute certainty that there has never been any observable or measureable evidence that God even exists, let alone create an actual world.
That's zero evidence as in not even one tiny, miniscule iota. In other words, without even the slightest evidence, why would I possibly believe God exists?
@Haroldbeavis1969 There is also no proof that God didn't exist. Therefore we can say;
"That's zero evidence as in not even one tiny, miniscule iota. In other words, without even the slightest evidence, why would I possibly believe God doesn't exist?"
You're working on the notion that things can be explained without the idea of God. Well, things can also be explained without the idea of 'No God.' (Double negative). All I'm saying is it just depends on which side of the fence you choose to fall.
@Motorhed95 There is zero evidence as in not even one tiny, minscule iota to prove anything doesn't exist. That puts god on an even keel with invisible unicorns, flying spaghetti monsters, flying gorillas, galloping turtles, and thoroughbred centaurs, and even dodo birds and dinosaurs for that matter. Do you see the flaw in your logic?
See, we can argue whether there is evidence to show that any of these things exist but it is impossible to argue that they don't. Got it?
@Haroldbeavis1969 It's not a flaw in my logic. That is precisely what I was saying down to a tee.
I wasn't trying to convert you, or prove you wrong or anything. I was merely looking for a debate.
In relation to what you just said, galloping turtles offer no explanation as to how the universe began. God does. That's the key difference; science can provide an explanation and so can religion, ergo it is just whichever you choose to pick.
Finally there is [albeit weak] evidence for God; revelation.
@Motorhed95 Why do you say galloping turtles offer no explanation as to how the universe began? Actually, two galloping turtles, who are infinite in their existence, were racing one day to see who was the faster. They galloped as fast as they could only to collide at the finish line. The collision was so forceful that it set forth a chain of events that created the universe as we now know it. Sounds like an explanation to me.
@thewayofthemaster You're right. I don't have absolute knowledge of all things. Therefore I should believe in Allah, for it is only He who does, right?
But a belief in the Big Bang is not faith because evidence exists for the Big Bang which has been successfully tested repeatedly. And a lack of a belief in gods is not faith because it is not a positive claim and there is no repeatable evidence in favour of the positive claim that this lack of belief opposes.
@kandtell I wouldn't bother dude, you're trying to educate people who actually thought the banana was the atheists nightmare and that evolution requires a crocoduck. You would have more success teaching quantum physics to a dog.
@thewayofthemaster It's ironic that you are 100% sure that "God DID do it" which would necessarily require absolute knowledge. Do you have absolute knowledge? Also, being sure that something did not happen beyond a reasonable level of doubt does not require absolute knowledge. For instance, if you witness a man kill another man, he could argue that a demon did it and then changed your memory of the event to make it seem like he did it. Can you 100% prove that's not true? Of course not.
@Motorhed95 Belief in the Christian god necessarily requires a 100% surety. Believers are forbidden on pain of a fate worse than death to have any doubt about their god's existence. Also, he may not have expressed this in this particular video but you need to consider the arguments in light of all the other videos too.
@thewayofthemaster You clearly have no understanding what so ever of what the big bang theory even proposes. It does not state there was nothing. And from nothing came everything. For no reason. Such a imbecilic way of looking at it. And the BBT has nothing to do with atheism. People did not believe in gods long before the theory was ever thought up. I mean do you believe in Allah? Zeus? Thor? No? why not? There is about as much evidence for them as there is for your god. Get my drift?
@thewayofthemaster You clearly have no understanding what so ever of what the big bang theory even proposes. It does not state there was nothing. And from nothing came everything. For no reason. Such a imbecilic way of looking at it. And the BBT has nothing to do with atheism. People did not believe in gods long before the theory was ever thought up. I mean do you believe in Allah? Zeus? Thor? No? why not? There is about as much evidence for them as there is for your god. Get my drift?
@thewayofthemaster "believe in the big bang?" is a trick question, it shows an attempt at rhetorics, not at a sincere debate.
"Do you know any atheists that don't?" - sure, most atheists I know don't understand or care about the beginning of the universe. Atheism is not an institution and doesn't set a pattern of beliefs on a group of people. That is a common mistake made by amateur religious apologists. The only thing we have in common is that we believe in one less god than believers do.
@thewayofthemaster that's not the point... babies are born not believing in god nor the big bang. but they're still atheist because they don't believe in god, you don't have to believe in the big bang, (or evolution and etc. There were atheists in the 1700s and before, but they didn't believe in the big bang, nor did charles darwin, but he was still atheist because he didn't believe in god!
@thewayofthemaster One thing has absolutely nothing to do with the other. Should you prove evolution and Big Bang false, you've done nothing to prove God.
If you want to make an argument for God you have to do a hell of a lot better than simply, "How else was it done?" or "It's the only logical possibility." You need to have evidence of God himself (not merely his alleged creations) that is observable and measurable. Good luck with that.
@thewayofthemaster This is a false association. Not ALL atheists are convinced of the Big Bang theory and many theists also recognize the evidence supportive of the theory. Would you say the Pope is atheist because he has urged the Catholic church to accept the Big Bang theory?
@Tnttodda You can't argue here. How does that saying go... "When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, you'll understand why I dismiss yours."
The belief that there was an almighty, ideal, perfect, never-changing, all wise, all knowing magical daddy in the sky, who came out of nothing, who one day had an idea he couldn't be perfect and not have anyone praise him for that, so he snapped his fingers and created the Earth, stars, made it so light can travel faster than light, sneezed into a lump of clay to bring it to life, take out one of his ribs and fashion a wife for him
On the contrary atheism makes no sense all that even fools should be able to, but being the fools they are. atheists can't ( or more correctly won't) see that.
The belief that some cosmic Jewish zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul which is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
I have never heard anyone ever say this... we don't know what happened before the big bang, but positing God there only adds questions, it does not answer any
@Zurtroy because this video is obviously nonsense, you know it, I know it, the uploader knows it. To prevent it form being downvoted the voting has been deactivated.
It's religious people that believe that something came from nothing. Atheists don't have to believe in the big bang. Also I'm not atheist because of the big bang or evolution, I'm atheist because of how crap the bible is.
1. Arrangement of matter is the result of natural forces that are observable, not "no reason."
2. You really think The God of the Bible (more than any other of the many gods believed by different people to have created the universe) is more plausible?
3. Science doesn't say there was "nothing" before the big bang, it just has the common sense to say "I don't know" instead of making crap up.
Christianity: The belief that a magical sky daddy created everything for humans and is perfect and can do everything despite the countless about of failed solar systems that he must have also made, who is omni-benevolent event though he murdered countless people along with his followers even though it meant going against his own commandment. Oh, but they deserved it, even the woman and children. And rape was alright. He was petty and jealous, killing over minor things. Makes perfect sense right?
Stalin and Mao's views are not atheistic, but are instead a form of nationalistic state RELIGION where they themselves are the objects of worship of the people, and who's ideologies have led to the deaths of just as many as those caused by Christianity.
@WCdragoninja They were atheistic. They were so incredibly atheistic that they started believing that they themselves were the REAL gods. That is the danger of atheism. The further you can get away from Stalin and Mao's religion (atheism) the better. It's how a people keeps themselves from being slaughtered by a man who believes in no god besides himself.
Well to be fair Hitler was Roman Catholic. That said, Stalin or Mao never killed anyone, it was their followers who BELIEVED IN SOMETHING WITHOUT PROOF that did all the killing. The further people get away from ANY religion the better. Stop proving to everyone here that you're an idiot.
@WCdragoninja Whoa there buddy. You might want to save face and slink away into your holy science books before you make too much a fool of yourself. Cause yea, Stalin wasn't just playing cards and drinkin wine while his followers did everything. And that "something without proof" they all believed in was the non-existence of a real, supernatural god. You don't seem to understand just how religious your disbelief in god is.
Wow...you are such a moron. Do you honestly believe that followers of Stalin did what they did "in the name of Atheism"??? The something "they all believed in was the non-existence of a real, supernatural god"? No that's NOT what they believed in AT ALL you idiot, are you even fucking reading what I'm writing? I'm more than willing to bet that the majority of Stalin's followers were NOT atheists. You Christians are all the same, a cancer to be trampled underfoot of truth.
@WCdragoninja No, they didn't do it in the name of atheism. It's far worse than that. They did it in the name of their own delusional power they thought they had over existence. Now if you're going to tell me that their atheistic views had no connection with a self-god belief (rather than an external god belief which produces humility and restrains evil) your eyes are welded shut to the truth. I don't know what you think atheism is, but Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot WERE atheist and it IS significant.
Oh? Religions with a belief in an external god produce humility and restrain evil?
The Crusades
The Reconquista
The Muslim Conquests of the 7th to 8th Century
The Taiping Rebellion
The French Wars of Religion
And the 30 Years' War
What are those exactly? It would seem to me, humble ignorant, that the number of religious wars CLEARLY waged in the name of religion far outnumber the wars where a major participant was an atheist, where most participants were still religious
@WCdragoninja Religion isn't evil just because it's not perfect. But I'm not going to butt heads with you anymore. You categorize people and hate those who don't fit into a favorable category. Your ideology is the very reason that there is war on earth. Atheism isn't the problem here, YOU are. I initially responded because of the immense atheist bigotry I found in your comment. I would have responded the same way to a Christian bigot, but I'm afraid they aren't nearly as common.
Atheism isn't evil just because it's not perfect. There is war on Earth because that is the nature of Nature, not because people don't believe in fairy tales. Nothing you ever said in any of your comments holds any weight behind them. Keep crying.
@Izzzzaaaacko The only people that support creationism are religious idiots such as Ray Comfort and yourself and the reason why scientists defend evolution is because it is true unlike your childish theory I mean you probably think the earth is flat aswell don't you? so please go read a science book and get an education from a real school or college not some bible camp you ignorant fool
@TheXman300 Fallacy overload . . . by the way, you can no longer post here as you failed to keep your posts from using profanity (not to mention ad hominem attacks).
@Izzzzaaaacko no there seriously isnt a any evidence for creationism and the reason why sceintists dnt accept it becus there is no evidence nt becus they dnt like it. The whole point of science is to increasing our understanding about the way things work unlike creationism which is an outdated and childish explanation for how we came about and i recommend u look up atheism properly bcus u obviously dnt understand that either
that isn't atheism at all. all atheism is is a rejection of the claim that god exists. it doesn't say anything about the origin of the universe or life, or the universes intended purpose. it is a position on a single concept - gods existence.
Do christians ACTUALY think that scientists think like this? O_O most christians also think that evolution is the theory that live comes from mud pools or something (which is probartly true but it has nothing to do with evolution) if u are ever in a debate with theist ask him: what do you think that evolution is? right answer: To explain the variation of living creatures. Sorry for my broken english =D english isnt my native language ^^
Clever, but you're mistaken. It's the twisted portrayal of scientific theories that is wrong. Big Bang never suggested there was "nothing", or that nothing happened to it, or that anything exploded, or that it created everything nor did evolution ever suggest that something was simply rearranged and turned into dinosaurs. It's over-simplified and faulty but I expected no less from this channel.
I like the use of word "magical". Because God totally isn't magical.
I liked that quote about commoners thinking it's obvious that something can't come from nothing but that it's different according to quantum physicists. If that is indeed a possibility, I will look into it myself. If there are justifications for such a theory then it can't be all that ridiculous. So far I've only thought science hasn't discovered where the state before the Big Bang came from, but if it came from nothing, I want to know how. That's the important part.
@thewayofthemaster Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that's present in all humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
I bet the thought of the world being how it is for no reason sounds scaaaaary. "Must make up a reason! Must make up God!" I'd rather have the answer "I don't know" than "There's probably a big man in the sky who decided to make everything for the lulz".
@Lars0n Thanks for your indepth refutation of God. And your answer is telling as it shows what most people who deny God think, and that's when they're faced with the question of "Is there a God and will I be accountable to Him one day?" they prefer the answer you gave of "I don't know" as opposed to "Repent and turn from your sins".
The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree . . . yeah, makes perfect sense.
The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree . . . yeah, makes perfect sense.
theists should study the way atoms and magnetics fields behave and how dna formed... it's all quite simple really if the right person explains it to you
thats not atheism, atheism is the non belief in a god. this video is showing a skewed view of the origin of life and fails at it. theists fail and god doesn't exist
The belief that there was (Godidit!) and (Godidit!) happened to (Godidit!) and then (Godidit!) magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then spliced genes to create dinosaurs.
The belief that there was (Godidit!) and (Godidit!) happened to (Godidit!) and then (Godidit!) magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then spliced genes to create dinosaurs.
You're misquoting me, I didn't say promoting your faith doesn't help you- I can see many dubious benefits accruing for those who exploit the gullible.
However I query whether on balance it can be of general use to anyone else and I seriously take issue with the assumption that promotion of your superstitions is the epitome of 'doing right'. To me the major superstitions are a great evil, promoting as they do, ignorance, hatred and paedophilia
The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
This video is clearly the product of a mind that either has not read any arguements against their viewpoint or has read them and not understood them. If you people really want to argue against an opposing viewpoint, you really need to start paying better attention.
The greatest minds on the planet don't even have that answer? Why would the average atheist? You also make theories sound like they don't hold any merit. Theories are put together to explain how things of the natural world connect through experiment and observation. Would you discredit Gravitational Theory? Now, let us discredit the bible with one of many arguments. The bible holds that the earth is 6000 yo. We have fossils dating to the millions, Thus the bible holds no merit.
The belief that there was an all powerful, all knowing, invisible sky wizard that made the sun after making light and made all life forms including parasites and diseases that mess up the other ones and made parts of Earth inhospitable and impregnated someone's virgin fiance to come to Earth as his own son to forgive people and stop them going to the hell that he made because for some reason he couldn't just forgive them despite being all powerful...
Lol The creator of this vid couldnt be anymore ignorant... You arent the only relegion around and you arent the only people that "know" how the world came to be. Go study a bit science before u decide to make another vid or does science "make perfect sense" too?
Yacovsup 1 week ago
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@thewayofthemaster Don't God(s) also come into existence out of nothing?
MrSitemaster2 1 week ago
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Christianity:
The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
makes perfect sense
timewaster0 2 months ago
@timewaster0 You're missing the point, Christianity is not on the other end of the spectrum to Atheism, THEISM is. And Theism is the belief in a deity, to most meaning a creator. Which YES, does make more sense than atheism.
TheNailoo 1 month ago
@TheNailoo You're missing the point as: 1. Christianity falls under the category of theism so it is technically on the other end of the spectrum to atheism.
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2. the reason I go into Christianity specifically because each theistic religion has it's own complicated story and since I'm not going out of my way to do this for every one I thought that having done one for Christianity was enough to make my point since the makers of this video are christian.
timewaster0 1 month ago
@TheNailoo also if you want me to believe that Christianity or any other religion makes more sense you're going to have to do a better job than the D-list actor and the banana man just did.
timewaster0 1 month ago
thats not atheism
MrStubbsj 3 months ago
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And by doing this the price of sin we are not capable of making up for was atoned for us by Jesus Christ on the cross so all who confess they are a sinner and they are responsible for their own sins and that they will turn away from sin and wage war against it and follow Jesus and do the will of the Father in heaven will be saved.We will at times mess up because it is impossible to be sinless but if we chose to stand against it and not purposely sin, continue to confess we are under God's mercy.
gilbert4321 3 months ago
Why do people say that satan and demons rule hell? The bible says that satan and his fallen angels were cast to earth and that hell will be ruled by Jesus and his angels poring wrath upon all the fallen angels that turned against God and all those who sinned against God and every tongue will declare He is God and every knee will bow. If God was fare we would all go to hell but He came to earth to live the required sinless life to pass the test and pay our punishment for us. (1/2)
gilbert4321 3 months ago
this was prbly created just to start a big fight
izaJesusFreakbaby 3 months ago
this is so dumb. that is not atheism. atheism is the absence of a belief in god. the atheist does not necessarily have anything belief in the origin of the universe. you are so stupid if you can't see that
Ollychamberlain 3 months ago
@Ollychamberlain But the definition of "God" is the origin of the universe. Whatever the universe came from, it was God.
TheCandleBurns 2 months ago
@TheCandleBurns simply, you are wrong. the definition of god is not the origin of the universe. SECONDLY, that doesn't matter. You can reject this definition of god and say no he was not the origin of the universe. that doesn't mean that this person is implying they know the real origin of life. Seriously, the argument you gave is one of the worst I've ever read.
Ollychamberlain 2 months ago
@Ollychamberlain Sorry, I didn't necessarily mean the dictionary definition; it's hard to think past the "supreme being" part. But if you do think into it at all, whatever the universe came from has to be be a "supreme being," even if not in the same state of consciousness as us, so that's impossible to actually understand. And yes, you can reject anything, that doesn't make it correct. And I wasn't trying to start an argument, I just thought I'd point that out, so don't worry about me
TheCandleBurns 2 months ago
Christianity
the belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and tell him telepathically that you accept him as your master so that he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat a magical apple from a magical tree.
Makes perfect sense.
DrUberAwesome 3 months ago
Did you know that the amount non-symmetric fractions in a binary tree fractal corresponds to partition numbers? Fascinating!
bvssvni 3 months ago
No. It is so much more sensible to believe God came out of nothing to create everything. Yes that is sooooo much more plausible.
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gregrutz 3 months ago
@gregrutz I can't thumbs up your comment so "thumbs up"
monster762 3 months ago
By natural laws,relativity,etc, all things affect each other.
If one part of the universe has purpose, then the whole universe has purpose. And, the same way around.
Would you believe that, if you you look out at the vastness of the universe, that it has no purpose?
If there is purpose, there must be One who has purposed, One who "wants" something to happen with the universe (and all of it's pieces).
If you have ever "wanted" anything, then you have JUST PROVED that the universe has purpose.
JAWdog777 4 months ago
Let me say it like this
Atheism does not always= Big Bang
BUT!
Big Bang(usually) = Atheist
LOL
batesblazin 4 months ago
God popped out of nowhere and has the 'powaaah' to create the world in 6 days, be he fails to maintain it for 6000 years. Everyone that beliefs in god is an idiot
catnip4life 4 months ago
This is a gross misrepresentation of atheism, The Big Bang Theory, The Theory of Evolution, and the correlation between them all rolled into one purely ignorant video. I'm kind of impressed.
battousai1373 4 months ago
God - Belief that suddenly there was everything and everything had always existed and then suddenly magic happened and out popped the world, dinosaurs, monkeys, clouds, a tree, rainbow, humans. Also this God named YHWH apparently took the form of a Human and did Miracles but stopped after a certain time so the only proof people have are rewritten texts of the Bible.
scrap222666 5 months ago
@scrap222666 Actually, God never stopped performing miracles. He still performs miracles now.
MissLeanaFaith 3 months ago
@MissLeanaFaith I am sorry but I have not seen the parting of seas, land engulfing floods, turning people into salt pillars, turning water into wine, people walking on water, giving people languages. Please direct me to the Youtube videos.
scrap222666 3 months ago
@scrap222666 I don't know if there are Youtube videos, but if you want I'll message you some miracles that I know of that have happened.
MissLeanaFaith 3 months ago
Christianity: The belief that a perfect being that somehow always existed made everything, even though there is no direct evidence of such a thing.
Makes perfect sense.
ZukutoBTD 5 months ago
Theism
The belief that a wizard did it
WitchHunter93 6 months ago
Apparently someone only saw a "Atheists don't believe in anything" headline and decided to not do any more research than that.
HimesInu 7 months ago
i don't think anyone believes everything came from nothing. how could anything come from nothing? it must have always existed. But i don't think your deity is the thing that always existed, your religion is just one out of many that was just lucky that it came to europe back in the day and was then forced on most people of the world. seriously, it could have been every religion in the world that could have been so popular, how do you know your religion is right?ThisAtheistStoryMakesMoreSence
audveltadmuna 7 months ago
atheism
–noun
1. the doctrine or belief that there is no god.
2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
Source - Dictionary . com
You're definition is a little bit off
CDragnetti 7 months ago
followers of religion X, just be honest: the only reason 99.99% of you are X is because you were born to X parents in a X (majority) country
there is nothing special about X that makes it right.
if you were born in country Z with (majority) religion Y you would believe Y and defend Y as if it was X
this is essentially why X is false
gigor11 7 months ago
@gigor11 You're basically saying that Christianity is essentially false because some people believe in it and others don't. What if one culture thought that 2+2 was 4 and another thought that it was 5? Is that any different? Obviously whether or not there is a God is a much more difficult question, but you can't deny that there is a correct answer, just like the correct answer to 2+2 is 4. And some people are fortunate enough to be born to parents who know the truth.
papasazz 7 months ago
@papasazz you missed my main point, and you kinda made it for me in the end on your comment. I argue that the main reason you believe your religion is true is because you were born into it.
But you are right in saying it doesn't mean X is false, just that you have no good reason to believe X is right.
You being born into X has nothing to say about the truth of X.
Just as people who were born in a time the earth was considered flat
gigor11 7 months ago
@gigor11 You're right, being born into Christianity has nothing to say about the truth of it. That's why I don't believe it just because my parents believe it. I've wrestled with the Bible and thought about it for myself, and what I've concluded is that Christianity makes a whole lot of sense. A person raised in Islam can read the Bible and would come to the same conclusion if he was truly seeking with his whole heart.
papasazz 7 months ago
@papasazz question: if the holy book of religion X is divinely inspired, why is there nothing in there about scientific fact that was discovered in the lase few centuries? that is, if some all knowing entity was communicating with the authors of that holy book, why did we have to discover all of science with secular means?
gigor11 7 months ago
@gigor11 First of all, the purpose of the Bible was not to give mankind a bunch of scientific knowledge, it was to give us an idea of who God is so that we might come to know Him and have a relationship with Him. However, there is scientific information in the Bible, like in Leviticus 13:45, Psalm 8, Job 26:7, Job 38:16, Jeremiah 33:22, and 2 Peter 3:10, just to name a few passages. But it wouldn't matter if there was nothing scientific in it, God wants us to explore His creation for ourselves.
papasazz 7 months ago
@papasazz ye m8, but if god wants to have a relationship with us wouldn't he want us to survive deceased first? if there was some revaluation of penicillin in any holy book, to life expectancy rate would soar and there would be more people and more reason to worship a god. and if i can see that, then an all knowing god should too.
And if he is all knowing, then why does he need too rely on a collection of books written thousands of years ago to spread his message, now that we have say YouTube
gigor11 7 months ago
@papasazz Why does he choose to keep hidden?I went over the verses you mentioned, and common m8, there are birds in the sky and fish in the sea is considered privileged info? fear of people that carry disease? do you really think so little of the human race that we needed a divine intervention to reach these conclusions? and the conclusion is: every holy book is written by people and inspired by people
gigor11 7 months ago
@gigor11 Say that the Bible was full of scientific facts that humans couldn't have come up with on their own. Maybe then you would believe that there is a God, but that's still not enough. You would only be believing with your mind, and not your heart. God wants you to know His love, wisdom, and power, which have all been clearly demonstrated in the Bible. What good is it to God if you have proof of his existence but don't desire to be in relationship with HIm? He wants a relationship!
papasazz 7 months ago
@papasazz If you have a relationship with something first having a good reason (in your head as you say) to believe it even exists, and all you have to go on is a feeling in your chest, then it sounds like an imaginary friend for adults
gigor11 7 months ago
@gigor11 And regarding his choice to keep hidden: Just look around you, God's divine nature and eternal power have been clearly perceived in the things that have been made, so you are without excuse. Isn't that revelation enough? The fact that there is something as opposed to nothing. I mean, how did we get here if not by God?
papasazz 7 months ago
No, it means we're working on belief. However, we have belief in evidence and NOT belief through faith.
Also, 0% sure God did it is NOT 100% sure that he DIDN'T do it. Its possible to be 0% sure of either case, this is called intellectual honesty. Not just picking the side which feels right.
Westwoooooooood 7 months ago
don't you idiots get it? We believe that the big bang is the origin of the universe which didn't start from nothing. but we do believe that nothing created everything because after all, we weren't created, so nothing created us.
TH3xMAST3RxM1ND 8 months ago
Ah when Christians use the weapon of deconstructionism to break down straw mans. Its quite laughable.
movcrit 8 months ago
We are all atheists to most of the gods made by man. Some of us just go one god further.
Do you believe in Vishnu? Shiva? Thor? Osiris? Ra? If no = then atheist.
KaletheQuick 8 months ago
@KaletheQuick I'd honestly be more likely to buy into those gods than I would be to buy into Yahweh.
NumbFlynn 8 months ago
@TheAmorri Pfffft. Believing in a Flying Spaghetti Monster. That's almost as bad as worshipping a book written by a magical wizard who is his own father who is also a magical ghost spirit that advocates sexism, slavery, homophobia, incest, pedophilia, stoning random people for having sex, and contains multiple accounts of pornography and brutal murder. Well, now that I look at it, the Flying Spaghetti Monster seems entirely plausible compared to that.
kakashiwithoutmask 8 months ago
Similarly, Christianity is the belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever in the sky if you symbolically (or, in some cases, literally) eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so that he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
Also I believe that an invisible unicorn created the universe with magic. DISPROVE ME!
kakashiwithoutmask 8 months ago
Athiesm is a belief in logic and reasoning above all. Disregaring the big bang, look at the earths history. Animals that have been around for billions of years have no motive other than survival. Then humans come along, evolving from apes, and believe they are profalic somehow. humans have only been around for 2 million years.
pumishumi 8 months ago
Hahaha... it's so funny to see the word "magically" in here, when most Athiests would agree they don't believe something until they are shown evidence. Thiests are the ones that believe in magic (walking on water, water to wine, resurection, etc., etc.).
Here's an idea... admit you don't know something. Last I checked, no athiest claimed to know 100% where everything came from, but that does not equate to God creating it. How do you know 100% Thor didn't? Who created God (other than man)??
firelawn74 8 months ago
@thewayofthemaster - It always amazes me how misinformed people are about atheists. Just because someone rejects the notion of your god, doesn't automatically mean they believe in the big bang. Atheism does not equal science. Look at Buddists, many are atheist, yet they see the universe as cyclical and starts with a wind and ends with fire. Educate yourself on a subject before attacking it, thats my advice.
kwith 8 months ago
@BelieveandtrustJesus How could a theory possibly be anything other than man made, when all that we are is men?
ajb12376 8 months ago
All i got from this video was the title and a brief bit of irrelevant text.
The title says it all.
Artistlcle 8 months ago
God is not a name its a state of being god ,lord ,king ,prince princess ,qween, whats the god from the bibles name???? huh???
Marcus31699 8 months ago
Wow this redneck has obviously never opened a science book.
KnivesOfTheRound 8 months ago
God is by definition cause of everything with a beginning (absolute cause). He has a beginning, because if he existed before time, he existed at some time before time, which is a contradiction, and saying he always existed timelessly is self-contradictory, since always is a temporal adverb. So he has a beginning and by definition is the cause of himself. But that sets an infinite regress. So he can't cause himself. An absolute cause who can't cause himself is self-contradictory thus impossible.
AtheismIsTheWay 9 months ago
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Christianity
The belief that some cosmic Jewish zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you love him and that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
Makes perfect sense.
TheZealousAtheist 9 months ago
This is not what Atheism is. Atheism is a denial of the existance of God. Not the acceptance of the Big Bang. Please stop being such a moronic, bigoted and close-minded individual.
Tnttodda 9 months ago
@Tnttodda Do you believe in the Big Bang? Do you know any atheists that don't?
thewayofthemaster 9 months ago
@thewayofthemaster I don't believe in it 100%. Given the evidence it is currently the most likely "beginning". However, I'm not completley convinced but I am 0% sure it was the work of a God. There is a difference between atheist and a believer in the big bang.
Tnttodda 9 months ago
@Tnttodda Being 100% sure that God didn't do it requires absolute knowledge. Do you have absolute knowledge of all things? Then you're working on faith.
thewayofthemaster 9 months ago
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Tnttodda 9 months ago
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@thewayofthemaster No, you're twisting my words. Based on the current SCIENTIFIC evidence; I currently see no possible way in that a God could exist or have made the world/universe. It defies all laws of science. It is impossible.
Tnttodda 9 months ago
@thewayofthemaster that's not working on faith, that's working on the evidence that has been gathered so far. as far as i know, there hasn't been any evidence gathered for the existence of any deity. and atheism =/= big bang.
DrProfessorMDPhD17 9 months ago
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@thewayofthemaster Being 100% sure that God did it requires absolute knowledge. Do you have absolute knowledge of all things? Then you're working on faith.
AtheismIsTheWay 9 months ago
@thewayofthemaster
I believe a Flying Spaghetti Monster caused the expansion and cooling of matter in the early Universe. You can not disprove this. So by your logic you're saying that is plausible?
You're so far gone.
TheAmorri 8 months ago
@TheAmorri No you're totally wrong. A magical flying invisible unicorn (along with his half-brother who was also his mother who is also a vampire who is also himself) created the universe with MAGIC RICE KRISPIES AND RAINBOWS. You can't disprove me. HA!
kakashiwithoutmask 8 months ago
@thewayofthemaster in science you have never absolute knowledge but that doenst mean we shouldnt "believe" our facts. we dont know how gravity works and if its really gravity what keeps planets attracting each other but its the very best explanation there is until we find a better explanation and thats how science works.
besides that your little video is stupid. scientist dont think nothing happened to nothing and that for no reason. in quantum mechanics nothing (vacuum) seems to be something.
cocojumb0 8 months ago
@thewayofthemaster muslims and hindus and other people from other religions are 100% sure your god didn't do it, and do they have absolute knowledge? no. doesn't that mean you need absolute knowledge allah or vishnu didn't do it? what makes god so special?
audveltadmuna 7 months ago
@thewayofthemaster That's not how it works. While I can never be 100 percent sure that any supernatural creature didn't create the world, I can say with 100 [percent absolute certainty that there has never been any observable or measureable evidence that God even exists, let alone create an actual world.
That's zero evidence as in not even one tiny, miniscule iota. In other words, without even the slightest evidence, why would I possibly believe God exists?
Haroldbeavis1969 7 months ago
@Haroldbeavis1969 There is also no proof that God didn't exist. Therefore we can say;
"That's zero evidence as in not even one tiny, miniscule iota. In other words, without even the slightest evidence, why would I possibly believe God doesn't exist?"
You're working on the notion that things can be explained without the idea of God. Well, things can also be explained without the idea of 'No God.' (Double negative). All I'm saying is it just depends on which side of the fence you choose to fall.
Motorhed95 6 months ago
@Motorhed95 There is zero evidence as in not even one tiny, minscule iota to prove anything doesn't exist. That puts god on an even keel with invisible unicorns, flying spaghetti monsters, flying gorillas, galloping turtles, and thoroughbred centaurs, and even dodo birds and dinosaurs for that matter. Do you see the flaw in your logic?
See, we can argue whether there is evidence to show that any of these things exist but it is impossible to argue that they don't. Got it?
Haroldbeavis1969 6 months ago
@Haroldbeavis1969 It's not a flaw in my logic. That is precisely what I was saying down to a tee.
I wasn't trying to convert you, or prove you wrong or anything. I was merely looking for a debate.
In relation to what you just said, galloping turtles offer no explanation as to how the universe began. God does. That's the key difference; science can provide an explanation and so can religion, ergo it is just whichever you choose to pick.
Finally there is [albeit weak] evidence for God; revelation.
Motorhed95 6 months ago
@Motorhed95 Why do you say galloping turtles offer no explanation as to how the universe began? Actually, two galloping turtles, who are infinite in their existence, were racing one day to see who was the faster. They galloped as fast as they could only to collide at the finish line. The collision was so forceful that it set forth a chain of events that created the universe as we now know it. Sounds like an explanation to me.
Haroldbeavis1969 6 months ago
@thewayofthemaster You're right. I don't have absolute knowledge of all things. Therefore I should believe in Allah, for it is only He who does, right?
PAROHO9 7 months ago
@thewayofthemaster I agree with DrProfessorMDPhD17 etc.
Faith is a belief in contradiction of evidence or a positive belief where no evidence exists.
Thus a belief in god(s) is faith because no successfully repeated evidence exists for any god(s).
cont...
kandtell 7 months ago
But a belief in the Big Bang is not faith because evidence exists for the Big Bang which has been successfully tested repeatedly. And a lack of a belief in gods is not faith because it is not a positive claim and there is no repeatable evidence in favour of the positive claim that this lack of belief opposes.
kandtell 7 months ago
@kandtell I wouldn't bother dude, you're trying to educate people who actually thought the banana was the atheists nightmare and that evolution requires a crocoduck. You would have more success teaching quantum physics to a dog.
biggingeryeti 7 months ago
@biggingeryeti I've read Chad Orzel's book :)
According to him, dogs are better than humans at quantum physics LOL.
kandtell 7 months ago
@thewayofthemaster It's ironic that you are 100% sure that "God DID do it" which would necessarily require absolute knowledge. Do you have absolute knowledge? Also, being sure that something did not happen beyond a reasonable level of doubt does not require absolute knowledge. For instance, if you witness a man kill another man, he could argue that a demon did it and then changed your memory of the event to make it seem like he did it. Can you 100% prove that's not true? Of course not.
Uryens108 6 months ago
@Uryens108 He didn't actually say that he is 100% sure God did it. He didn't express his personal beliefs at all. You read into his comment.
Motorhed95 6 months ago
@Motorhed95 Belief in the Christian god necessarily requires a 100% surety. Believers are forbidden on pain of a fate worse than death to have any doubt about their god's existence. Also, he may not have expressed this in this particular video but you need to consider the arguments in light of all the other videos too.
Uryens108 6 months ago
@thewayofthemaster You clearly have no understanding what so ever of what the big bang theory even proposes. It does not state there was nothing. And from nothing came everything. For no reason. Such a imbecilic way of looking at it. And the BBT has nothing to do with atheism. People did not believe in gods long before the theory was ever thought up. I mean do you believe in Allah? Zeus? Thor? No? why not? There is about as much evidence for them as there is for your god. Get my drift?
CtheWolfe 5 months ago
@thewayofthemaster You clearly have no understanding what so ever of what the big bang theory even proposes. It does not state there was nothing. And from nothing came everything. For no reason. Such a imbecilic way of looking at it. And the BBT has nothing to do with atheism. People did not believe in gods long before the theory was ever thought up. I mean do you believe in Allah? Zeus? Thor? No? why not? There is about as much evidence for them as there is for your god. Get my drift?
CtheWolfe 5 months ago
@Tnttodda I believe in the big bang and I am not an atheist. Here is my support to you.
movcrit 8 months ago
@movcrit thanks :)
Tnttodda 8 months ago
@thewayofthemaster The Big Bang has been proven (Hubble's law, CMBR, etc.). Denying evidence only makes you look like a fool.
AtheismIsTheWay 9 months ago
@thewayofthemaster "believe in the big bang?" is a trick question, it shows an attempt at rhetorics, not at a sincere debate.
"Do you know any atheists that don't?" - sure, most atheists I know don't understand or care about the beginning of the universe. Atheism is not an institution and doesn't set a pattern of beliefs on a group of people. That is a common mistake made by amateur religious apologists. The only thing we have in common is that we believe in one less god than believers do.
foroparapente 8 months ago
@thewayofthemaster I know many atheists that don't. I don't believe in the Big Bang, I believe in p-brane cosmology. As do many atheist Cosmologists.
BlueCosmology 7 months ago
@thewayofthemaster that's not the point... babies are born not believing in god nor the big bang. but they're still atheist because they don't believe in god, you don't have to believe in the big bang, (or evolution and etc. There were atheists in the 1700s and before, but they didn't believe in the big bang, nor did charles darwin, but he was still atheist because he didn't believe in god!
audveltadmuna 7 months ago
@thewayofthemaster One thing has absolutely nothing to do with the other. Should you prove evolution and Big Bang false, you've done nothing to prove God.
If you want to make an argument for God you have to do a hell of a lot better than simply, "How else was it done?" or "It's the only logical possibility." You need to have evidence of God himself (not merely his alleged creations) that is observable and measurable. Good luck with that.
Haroldbeavis1969 7 months ago
@thewayofthemaster This is a false association. Not ALL atheists are convinced of the Big Bang theory and many theists also recognize the evidence supportive of the theory. Would you say the Pope is atheist because he has urged the Catholic church to accept the Big Bang theory?
Uryens108 6 months ago
@Tnttodda You can't argue here. How does that saying go... "When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, you'll understand why I dismiss yours."
panchiz 4 months ago
Christianity
The belief that there was an almighty, ideal, perfect, never-changing, all wise, all knowing magical daddy in the sky, who came out of nothing, who one day had an idea he couldn't be perfect and not have anyone praise him for that, so he snapped his fingers and created the Earth, stars, made it so light can travel faster than light, sneezed into a lump of clay to bring it to life, take out one of his ribs and fashion a wife for him
Yeah, that makes more sence
debnadaviebna 9 months ago
On the contrary atheism makes no sense all that even fools should be able to, but being the fools they are. atheists can't ( or more correctly won't) see that.
mrtadreamer 9 months ago
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Christianity
The belief that some cosmic Jewish zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul which is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
Makes perfect sense.
Batou667 9 months ago
@Batou667
I genuinely feel sorry. Some theist whore probably marked this as spam. Good message! :D
Dracoflamz 9 months ago
Yep, it does make perfect sense, because It's all backed up by science. Quantum physics, astronomy, abiogenesis, geology, and biology.
1993TRS1 9 months ago
I have never heard anyone ever say this... we don't know what happened before the big bang, but positing God there only adds questions, it does not answer any
acrazyone1 9 months ago
WHY CAN'T I RATE THIS VIDEO?
Zurtroy 9 months ago
@Zurtroy because this video is obviously nonsense, you know it, I know it, the uploader knows it. To prevent it form being downvoted the voting has been deactivated.
kasparhauser 9 months ago
@Zurtroy because Ray already knows how you would rate it
debnadaviebna 9 months ago
It's religious people that believe that something came from nothing. Atheists don't have to believe in the big bang. Also I'm not atheist because of the big bang or evolution, I'm atheist because of how crap the bible is.
markod2002 9 months ago
How bout you check this one out you creationists:
watch?v=ddg9hNFcA6k
o0oSolidSnakeo0o 10 months ago
This christian rant makes about as much sense as their beliefs. Neither view is logically cogent.
StruggleBunnies 10 months ago
what a load of crap.
tokyoisawesome 10 months ago
1. Arrangement of matter is the result of natural forces that are observable, not "no reason."
2. You really think The God of the Bible (more than any other of the many gods believed by different people to have created the universe) is more plausible?
3. Science doesn't say there was "nothing" before the big bang, it just has the common sense to say "I don't know" instead of making crap up.
Applemangh 10 months ago
Christianity: The belief that a magical sky daddy created everything for humans and is perfect and can do everything despite the countless about of failed solar systems that he must have also made, who is omni-benevolent event though he murdered countless people along with his followers even though it meant going against his own commandment. Oh, but they deserved it, even the woman and children. And rape was alright. He was petty and jealous, killing over minor things. Makes perfect sense right?
langelslshadowl 10 months ago
Yeah, this is what Ray and Kirk think it means to be an atheist, but it ACTUALLY refers to someone who does not believe in a god or gods.
Nice try.
steveb0503 10 months ago
This is closer to what Ray believes than Atheist.
JamesTheTank 10 months ago
The world would be so much better without your religion.
WCdragoninja 10 months ago
@WCdragoninja Do you speak of Stalin and Mao's atheistic views that have killed billions throughout history?
tpstrat14 10 months ago
@tpstrat14
Stalin and Mao's views are not atheistic, but are instead a form of nationalistic state RELIGION where they themselves are the objects of worship of the people, and who's ideologies have led to the deaths of just as many as those caused by Christianity.
WCdragoninja 10 months ago
@WCdragoninja They were atheistic. They were so incredibly atheistic that they started believing that they themselves were the REAL gods. That is the danger of atheism. The further you can get away from Stalin and Mao's religion (atheism) the better. It's how a people keeps themselves from being slaughtered by a man who believes in no god besides himself.
tpstrat14 10 months ago
@tpstrat14
Well to be fair Hitler was Roman Catholic. That said, Stalin or Mao never killed anyone, it was their followers who BELIEVED IN SOMETHING WITHOUT PROOF that did all the killing. The further people get away from ANY religion the better. Stop proving to everyone here that you're an idiot.
WCdragoninja 10 months ago
@WCdragoninja Whoa there buddy. You might want to save face and slink away into your holy science books before you make too much a fool of yourself. Cause yea, Stalin wasn't just playing cards and drinkin wine while his followers did everything. And that "something without proof" they all believed in was the non-existence of a real, supernatural god. You don't seem to understand just how religious your disbelief in god is.
tpstrat14 10 months ago
@tpstrat14
Wow...you are such a moron. Do you honestly believe that followers of Stalin did what they did "in the name of Atheism"??? The something "they all believed in was the non-existence of a real, supernatural god"? No that's NOT what they believed in AT ALL you idiot, are you even fucking reading what I'm writing? I'm more than willing to bet that the majority of Stalin's followers were NOT atheists. You Christians are all the same, a cancer to be trampled underfoot of truth.
WCdragoninja 10 months ago
@WCdragoninja No, they didn't do it in the name of atheism. It's far worse than that. They did it in the name of their own delusional power they thought they had over existence. Now if you're going to tell me that their atheistic views had no connection with a self-god belief (rather than an external god belief which produces humility and restrains evil) your eyes are welded shut to the truth. I don't know what you think atheism is, but Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot WERE atheist and it IS significant.
tpstrat14 10 months ago
@tpstrat14
Oh? Religions with a belief in an external god produce humility and restrain evil?
The Crusades
The Reconquista
The Muslim Conquests of the 7th to 8th Century
The Taiping Rebellion
The French Wars of Religion
And the 30 Years' War
What are those exactly? It would seem to me, humble ignorant, that the number of religious wars CLEARLY waged in the name of religion far outnumber the wars where a major participant was an atheist, where most participants were still religious
WCdragoninja 10 months ago
@WCdragoninja Religion isn't evil just because it's not perfect. But I'm not going to butt heads with you anymore. You categorize people and hate those who don't fit into a favorable category. Your ideology is the very reason that there is war on earth. Atheism isn't the problem here, YOU are. I initially responded because of the immense atheist bigotry I found in your comment. I would have responded the same way to a Christian bigot, but I'm afraid they aren't nearly as common.
tpstrat14 10 months ago
@tpstrat14
Atheism isn't evil just because it's not perfect. There is war on Earth because that is the nature of Nature, not because people don't believe in fairy tales. Nothing you ever said in any of your comments holds any weight behind them. Keep crying.
WCdragoninja 10 months ago
@WCdragoninja I'm sure you believe this too. You're just angry at imperfect Christians...
tpstrat14 10 months ago
...but it's not
m0osey 11 months ago
Thats not what atheism is . It is not a belief it is a lack of a belief .
Gavinificationness 11 months ago
@Izzzzaaaacko The only people that support creationism are religious idiots such as Ray Comfort and yourself and the reason why scientists defend evolution is because it is true unlike your childish theory I mean you probably think the earth is flat aswell don't you? so please go read a science book and get an education from a real school or college not some bible camp you ignorant fool
TheXman300 11 months ago
@TheXman300 Fallacy overload . . . by the way, you can no longer post here as you failed to keep your posts from using profanity (not to mention ad hominem attacks).
thewayofthemaster 11 months ago
@Izzzzaaaacko no there seriously isnt a any evidence for creationism and the reason why sceintists dnt accept it becus there is no evidence nt becus they dnt like it. The whole point of science is to increasing our understanding about the way things work unlike creationism which is an outdated and childish explanation for how we came about and i recommend u look up atheism properly bcus u obviously dnt understand that either
TheXman300 11 months ago
that isn't atheism at all. all atheism is is a rejection of the claim that god exists. it doesn't say anything about the origin of the universe or life, or the universes intended purpose. it is a position on a single concept - gods existence.
twiistaaa 11 months ago
Do christians ACTUALY think that scientists think like this? O_O most christians also think that evolution is the theory that live comes from mud pools or something (which is probartly true but it has nothing to do with evolution) if u are ever in a debate with theist ask him: what do you think that evolution is? right answer: To explain the variation of living creatures. Sorry for my broken english =D english isnt my native language ^^
lucasvandam 11 months ago
Straw man no jutsu!
Oicurmtoyoy 11 months ago
Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
Lars0n 11 months ago
@Lars0n Agreed. Atheism is dead wrong.
thewayofthemaster 11 months ago
@thewayofthemaster
Clever, but you're mistaken. It's the twisted portrayal of scientific theories that is wrong. Big Bang never suggested there was "nothing", or that nothing happened to it, or that anything exploded, or that it created everything nor did evolution ever suggest that something was simply rearranged and turned into dinosaurs. It's over-simplified and faulty but I expected no less from this channel.
I like the use of word "magical". Because God totally isn't magical.
Lars0n 11 months ago
@Lars0n The dinosaur part is intended to be humorous. However, plenty of secular scientists state that there was nothing before the "something".
/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fWq0lahNNyY
thewayofthemaster 11 months ago
@thewayofthemaster
I liked that quote about commoners thinking it's obvious that something can't come from nothing but that it's different according to quantum physicists. If that is indeed a possibility, I will look into it myself. If there are justifications for such a theory then it can't be all that ridiculous. So far I've only thought science hasn't discovered where the state before the Big Bang came from, but if it came from nothing, I want to know how. That's the important part.
Lars0n 11 months ago
@thewayofthemaster Christians: Not understanding evolution, natural selection, abiogenesis, and the big bang since the beginning of modern science.
Not to mention that whole "atheism dissection" is a straw man argument.
edlitz36 10 months ago
@thewayofthemaster Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that's present in all humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
edlitz36 10 months ago
@edlitz36 Thumbs up! Sorry as with all Christian videos the ratings are disabled, so I actually had to write it. Cheers!
cvanunen 9 months ago
@thewayofthemaster
I bet the thought of the world being how it is for no reason sounds scaaaaary. "Must make up a reason! Must make up God!" I'd rather have the answer "I don't know" than "There's probably a big man in the sky who decided to make everything for the lulz".
Lars0n 11 months ago
@Lars0n Thanks for your indepth refutation of God. And your answer is telling as it shows what most people who deny God think, and that's when they're faced with the question of "Is there a God and will I be accountable to Him one day?" they prefer the answer you gave of "I don't know" as opposed to "Repent and turn from your sins".
thewayofthemaster 11 months ago
CHRISTIANITY
The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree . . . yeah, makes perfect sense.
re121089 11 months ago
The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree . . . yeah, makes perfect sense.
re121089 11 months ago
theists should study the way atoms and magnetics fields behave and how dna formed... it's all quite simple really if the right person explains it to you
audveltadmuna 11 months ago
strawman
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 11 months ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 Did everything come from nothing?
jdswiney 11 months ago
thats not atheism, atheism is the non belief in a god. this video is showing a skewed view of the origin of life and fails at it. theists fail and god doesn't exist
hazza1o1 11 months ago
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The belief that there was (Godidit!) and (Godidit!) happened to (Godidit!) and then (Godidit!) magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then spliced genes to create dinosaurs.
JokerzKard 11 months ago
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Theism
The belief that there was (Godidit!) and (Godidit!) happened to (Godidit!) and then (Godidit!) magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then spliced genes to create dinosaurs.
Edited by Billy Graham.
HighOnPaint 1 year ago
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HighOnPaint 1 year ago
There's stupid theism and stupid atheism, as Confrep would say, but this is just stupid.
You get what you give.
Pichounator 1 year ago
You're misquoting me, I didn't say promoting your faith doesn't help you- I can see many dubious benefits accruing for those who exploit the gullible.
However I query whether on balance it can be of general use to anyone else and I seriously take issue with the assumption that promotion of your superstitions is the epitome of 'doing right'. To me the major superstitions are a great evil, promoting as they do, ignorance, hatred and paedophilia
SuperBeanson 1 year ago
Another perfect example of how Ray and Kirk and his Christian gang bangers misrepresent atheism. I guess a little bit of honesty is beyond them.
whanethewhip 1 year ago
Christianity:
The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.
Much better.
imperator332 1 year ago
To Theist: How was everything created?
blkswimmer 1 year ago
This video is clearly the product of a mind that either has not read any arguements against their viewpoint or has read them and not understood them. If you people really want to argue against an opposing viewpoint, you really need to start paying better attention.
rdelcante 1 year ago
To atheists: How was everything created? No theories please.
virtuosodud3 1 year ago
The greatest minds on the planet don't even have that answer? Why would the average atheist? You also make theories sound like they don't hold any merit. Theories are put together to explain how things of the natural world connect through experiment and observation. Would you discredit Gravitational Theory? Now, let us discredit the bible with one of many arguments. The bible holds that the earth is 6000 yo. We have fossils dating to the millions, Thus the bible holds no merit.
Harrymfink 1 year ago
That was probably the stupidest thing I ever read.
HaveFaithInScience 1 year ago
The belief that there was an all powerful, all knowing, invisible sky wizard that made the sun after making light and made all life forms including parasites and diseases that mess up the other ones and made parts of Earth inhospitable and impregnated someone's virgin fiance to come to Earth as his own son to forgive people and stop them going to the hell that he made because for some reason he couldn't just forgive them despite being all powerful...
Makes perfect sense.
FreeThinkingWoman88 1 year ago
@FreeThinkingWoman88 Best comment I've seen for 2 months.
wakkedd0ut 1 year ago
@wakkedd0ut Aww, why thank you. It's nice to be appreciated. :)
FreeThinkingWoman88 1 year ago