Someone just referred me to this video. Brilliant! That's a great idea. I love having options and this one looks like it really works well. I wouldn't worry about whether a bucket is food grade or not as long as it lined with a thick mylar. The mylar is protecting your food. Great job.
I didnt think you needed food grade buckets if its already protected in the mylar bag. I understood that the buckets were primarily to keep the varmits out and just add a wall of protection.
You're right. If you have mylar you don't need food grade buckets. I'm looking at this more long term though. Eventually I'll use that rice and then I may want to fill the bucket with some other kind of dried food. If so I'll already have a food grade bucket. I wish I had bought black buckets though. Light will break down dry goods over the years & a black bucket will block most of the light.
I just ordered 12 6 gallon buckets with 12 mylar bags with alot of oxygen absorber's. I plan on filling them up with rice, beans,oats and macaroni...:)
Awesome! Food isn't getting any cheaper. Buying it now is a great thing to do.
By the way I recently learned that regular old wal mart hand warmers work great as oxygen absorbers. They're the exact same thing only way bigger and they can absorb a heck of a lot more oxygen.
Hello - thank you for your video. Is is possible to just use a foodsaver and the bags that come with the foodsaver to pack individual rice portions serving 1-2 people and then put the individual packets in the bucket, or if you are using rice in a food saver and food saver bag, do you have to put an oxygen pad in the individual packets before sealing and then store in the buckets? Thanks
Thanks! Food saver bags are corrugated so as to allow air to be removed from the bag. If the bag were flat it the air would be trapped in the bag when the rubber seals of the food saver squeeze together. With the corrugated plastic, air can be pulled out and then the heating clamps melt the whole thing together. The little piece of food saver bag allows the mylar bag to do the same thing. Then I put an iron on it to get a really good seal before putting the bucket away.
when do you put the oxygen absorber in the mylar bag. I did not see when you put it in the bag. Also I think the food sealer might work better if you have the bucket a little higher up and the food sealer would not have to work so hard to get the air out of the bag. I really like your video. It answers a lot of questions I had about long term food storage. thank you
I bought the oxygen absorbers at a place called "the survival center". I'm lucky since it's close enough for me to drive there so I can load up on beans, wheat and rice in those 6 gallon buckets without paying shipping.
The mylar bags I bought on Amazon. The bags were expensive but they came with oxygen absorbers of their own. Ten bags and ten absorbers cost about 30 bucks. With this setup though, I can pack rice and grains to last 20 years.
@keltrce Not true. Many release agents use Benzine. Mylar is Benzine permeable at a rate of 0.36 per g/100 in2/24 hr/mil. Acetone is 2.22 at the same time/mil rate.
You need to use food grade buckets with all potable water and food.
Thanks for watching my video and your comment. Yours is a very ingenious technique. I'll try it soon. Cutting off a corner: I never would have come up with that idea. By doing this you can use fewer Oxygen absorbers, saving $.40 apiece, and with the mylar bag, the bucket will never touch the food. Your could take the sealed rice out of the bucket, put it in boxes or totes, and reuse the same bucket. Lowes has the best price on those buckets Great video, great idea. We will survive.
That's true and I have a lot of brown rice. Currently I eat brown rice several times a week. It doesn't store as well though so your ultra emergency food should have some white rice in it. In a non-air tight bag, brown rice will keep for about a year but white rice will keep for 5 years. In a sealed bag with oxygen absorbers, white rice will last 30 years. I could be eating that rice when I'm 74 years old.
Each of those buckets can provide 2000 calories a day for 21 days.
Food grade buckets are designed to hold food and not contaminate them while non food grade buckets don't promise to be non-toxic. You can tell what kind of bucket you have by looking at the recycle tag although I don't remember what the number is.
Since I'm using mylar though, I figure it's not as big an issue.
oh god, i'll dream tonight. have had 2 serious spider bites, and you're soooooooo right in calling them bastards! insane swelling, pain and infection. got a tip today from yt friend..
you can get animal antibiotics cheaper than
for humans....even FISH antibiotics. now that is a TIP. best of luck to you. thanks for sharing.
Luckily we don't have much of a mealy bug problem up here in the northwest. I think it's too cold for them. The only bug problem I have is when the cold weather hits and all the spiders decide that they want to move indoors where it's warm. It's not bad in my condo but I used to rent a basement bedroom during collage and man it was like a creepy crawly invasion in the fall. I would put carpet tape on the floor under my door to keep the bastards from moving in with me.
Food grade buckets shouldn't matter if it is sealed well in the mylar bag. Also, The added oxygen absorbers should eliminate most of the residual air.
if you cut the corners off of the mylar bag first...then do a three step process its easier ;)
cut the corners off of the bag, then seal the left side, then seal the right side, WHILE LEAVING A SMALL OPENING IN THE MIDDLE, then you can suck the air out and seal the last middle part ;)
This is a problem that has plagued the prepper community for years. Mylar is awesome, but how do you pull a vacuum on it? You can use oxygen absorbers, but there is still oxygen in the bag.
Your solution would have to take some refining but it seems logical. If you could just insure the seal after the vacuum was pulled and be sure that the addition of the plastic vacuum seal material into the seal will not affect the quality of the seal.
No, I just ordered them from Amazon. I have the flat rate shipping option (something like 70 bucks a year) and then I just pay sales tax because Amazon is based in Washington state.
Oldie but goodie video! Whatever happened to Josiah? He just disappeared from youtube
steelhorses2004 1 month ago
@steelhorses2004
Some coworkers of his discovered his channel and started giving him a lot of bs about it. That's why he closed the channel.
vention4wh 1 month ago
good video, thanks. Did you get food grade pails? Al long as your foods are in mylar you really dont need them
306prepper 4 months ago
Someone just referred me to this video. Brilliant! That's a great idea. I love having options and this one looks like it really works well. I wouldn't worry about whether a bucket is food grade or not as long as it lined with a thick mylar. The mylar is protecting your food. Great job.
katzcradul 6 months ago
Seal the bags with a KF-150CST see our videos seal any size bag with a "Coffee Bag " wide seal
sealerdave 9 months ago
I didnt think you needed food grade buckets if its already protected in the mylar bag. I understood that the buckets were primarily to keep the varmits out and just add a wall of protection.
WS6Racing 9 months ago
@WS6Racing
You're right. If you have mylar you don't need food grade buckets. I'm looking at this more long term though. Eventually I'll use that rice and then I may want to fill the bucket with some other kind of dried food. If so I'll already have a food grade bucket. I wish I had bought black buckets though. Light will break down dry goods over the years & a black bucket will block most of the light.
vention4wh 9 months ago
I just ordered 12 6 gallon buckets with 12 mylar bags with alot of oxygen absorber's. I plan on filling them up with rice, beans,oats and macaroni...:)
SpiritSphere12 11 months ago
@SpiritSphere12
Awesome! Food isn't getting any cheaper. Buying it now is a great thing to do.
By the way I recently learned that regular old wal mart hand warmers work great as oxygen absorbers. They're the exact same thing only way bigger and they can absorb a heck of a lot more oxygen.
vention4wh 11 months ago
Hello - thank you for your video. Is is possible to just use a foodsaver and the bags that come with the foodsaver to pack individual rice portions serving 1-2 people and then put the individual packets in the bucket, or if you are using rice in a food saver and food saver bag, do you have to put an oxygen pad in the individual packets before sealing and then store in the buckets? Thanks
misscpb 1 year ago
Thanks for the great tip! What was the thickness of the Mylar bag and why is the Lowes HDPE buckets NOT considered food grade?
atozinspections 1 year ago
absolutely brilliant - why do you think the foodsaver bag piece makes the difference?
TheBgcheez 1 year ago
@TheBgcheez
Thanks! Food saver bags are corrugated so as to allow air to be removed from the bag. If the bag were flat it the air would be trapped in the bag when the rubber seals of the food saver squeeze together. With the corrugated plastic, air can be pulled out and then the heating clamps melt the whole thing together. The little piece of food saver bag allows the mylar bag to do the same thing. Then I put an iron on it to get a really good seal before putting the bucket away.
vention4wh 1 year ago
@GettingPrepared
I've been filling them higher lately, about an inch from the top. I'll try your 3-4 cup method next time.
If you've filled over 50 buckets, you're a serious prepper!
vention4wh 1 year ago
when do you put the oxygen absorber in the mylar bag. I did not see when you put it in the bag. Also I think the food sealer might work better if you have the bucket a little higher up and the food sealer would not have to work so hard to get the air out of the bag. I really like your video. It answers a lot of questions I had about long term food storage. thank you
ptardugn 1 year ago
Nice. Thanks much :D.
7777Ralph 2 years ago
Can you tell me where you got the oxygon absorbers and the mylar bags....and how much they cost please?
Thank you sir for the video
7777Ralph 2 years ago
I bought the oxygen absorbers at a place called "the survival center". I'm lucky since it's close enough for me to drive there so I can load up on beans, wheat and rice in those 6 gallon buckets without paying shipping.
The mylar bags I bought on Amazon. The bags were expensive but they came with oxygen absorbers of their own. Ten bags and ten absorbers cost about 30 bucks. With this setup though, I can pack rice and grains to last 20 years.
vention4wh 2 years ago
You don't need a food grade bucket with the mylar bags.
keltrce 2 years ago
@keltrce Not true. Many release agents use Benzine. Mylar is Benzine permeable at a rate of 0.36 per g/100 in2/24 hr/mil. Acetone is 2.22 at the same time/mil rate.
You need to use food grade buckets with all potable water and food.
WurledPeas 1 year ago
Try using the cannister hose to vacuum out the air, then while the machine is on, use the iron to seal the bag....
ZalisMR 2 years ago
Thanks for watching my video and your comment. Yours is a very ingenious technique. I'll try it soon. Cutting off a corner: I never would have come up with that idea. By doing this you can use fewer Oxygen absorbers, saving $.40 apiece, and with the mylar bag, the bucket will never touch the food. Your could take the sealed rice out of the bucket, put it in boxes or totes, and reuse the same bucket. Lowes has the best price on those buckets Great video, great idea. We will survive.
billygarner587 2 years ago
Good video
Thanks for posting your ideas
2010purple 2 years ago
Brown rice is way better for the body :)
Romyazul 2 years ago
Romyazul
That's true and I have a lot of brown rice. Currently I eat brown rice several times a week. It doesn't store as well though so your ultra emergency food should have some white rice in it. In a non-air tight bag, brown rice will keep for about a year but white rice will keep for 5 years. In a sealed bag with oxygen absorbers, white rice will last 30 years. I could be eating that rice when I'm 74 years old.
Each of those buckets can provide 2000 calories a day for 21 days.
vention4wh 2 years ago
Thank you so much for the information :D
Romyazul 2 years ago
What's the diference between a food grade bucket and an ordinary plastic bucket?
AnomalousDataPoint 2 years ago
AnomalousDataPoint
Food grade buckets are designed to hold food and not contaminate them while non food grade buckets don't promise to be non-toxic. You can tell what kind of bucket you have by looking at the recycle tag although I don't remember what the number is.
Since I'm using mylar though, I figure it's not as big an issue.
vention4wh 2 years ago
excellent as always.
thank you for spreading empowerment.
fckuvrymch 2 years ago
That's pretty cool.
DEMCAD 2 years ago
oh god, i'll dream tonight. have had 2 serious spider bites, and you're soooooooo right in calling them bastards! insane swelling, pain and infection. got a tip today from yt friend..
you can get animal antibiotics cheaper than
for humans....even FISH antibiotics. now that is a TIP. best of luck to you. thanks for sharing.
fatpius 2 years ago
I've also heard that you should put dried bay leaves inside the bucket to add extra protection against mealy bugs. ....not sure.
but, I use them in my cabinets, and so far,
no problems.
fatpius 2 years ago
fatpius
Luckily we don't have much of a mealy bug problem up here in the northwest. I think it's too cold for them. The only bug problem I have is when the cold weather hits and all the spiders decide that they want to move indoors where it's warm. It's not bad in my condo but I used to rent a basement bedroom during collage and man it was like a creepy crawly invasion in the fall. I would put carpet tape on the floor under my door to keep the bastards from moving in with me.
vention4wh 2 years ago
Nice Vid.
I was wondering what the difference in storing the mylar bags in non-food grade buckets vs. storing them in food grade.
captbavo 2 years ago
none
aybesee123 2 years ago
Food grade buckets shouldn't matter if it is sealed well in the mylar bag. Also, The added oxygen absorbers should eliminate most of the residual air.
Zguitar1 2 years ago
if you cut the corners off of the mylar bag first...then do a three step process its easier ;)
cut the corners off of the bag, then seal the left side, then seal the right side, WHILE LEAVING A SMALL OPENING IN THE MIDDLE, then you can suck the air out and seal the last middle part ;)
StarrJaded 2 years ago
StarrJaded
I'll try that. Thanks for the suggestion.
vention4wh 2 years ago
5 *****'s for the effort.
This is a problem that has plagued the prepper community for years. Mylar is awesome, but how do you pull a vacuum on it? You can use oxygen absorbers, but there is still oxygen in the bag.
Your solution would have to take some refining but it seems logical. If you could just insure the seal after the vacuum was pulled and be sure that the addition of the plastic vacuum seal material into the seal will not affect the quality of the seal.
JosiahsBackpack 2 years ago
Let us know if the vacuum still holds after 24 hours.
JosiahsBackpack 2 years ago
Definitely! I'd to see the results after 24 hours as well!
YounaTuber 2 years ago
Cool. Did I thank you for the stuff?
Hopefl1 2 years ago
Hopefl1
Do you mean for the dried nectorines? No but I assume you appreciated it.
You're welcome
(-:
vention4wh 2 years ago
Pretty slick trick .....I wonder what would happen if you put the whole unopened rice bag in there, then sealed it?
skybirdbird 2 years ago
skybirdbird
It would probably work ok but if the bag was unprotected it could get punctured easily. Using the buckets gives a lot of protection to the mylar.
vention4wh 2 years ago
did you find the mylar bags around here, or did you order online?
beast12101 2 years ago
beast12101
No, I just ordered them from Amazon. I have the flat rate shipping option (something like 70 bucks a year) and then I just pay sales tax because Amazon is based in Washington state.
vention4wh 2 years ago