2010 - Dr. Chandra and SAL 9000

[s4ndwichMakeR]

There are actually 161 references for “Phoenix” in the current encyclopedia (Wikipedia).

[junkerde]

your next incarnation is a japanese otaku who marries a video game character, that is all SAL, for now......for now.

[Roodosutaa]

Siri... is that you?

[aldoortegab]

There's rumors that Iphone5 will be having something like this integrated, naturally with limitations due to technology development, we'll have to wait to see..

[michaelavena]

@aldoortegab you were right ;)

[dagatagad]

The script is JUST FANTASTIC.

[alienhddna]

it 2011 now but we got google tv

[SnapeMaster]

This one of the sexyest voice i've heard in a long time. Sal's 9000 has the same savy voice as Hall 9000

[IDoNotBlameYou]

@SnapeMaster Do you know who that is? It's Candice Bergen, the eternally cool, classy, incredibly sexy star of A LOT of things, most known for her role as "Murphy Brown." A perfect female counterpart voice for HAL (Douglas Rain).

[ChrisW164]

realizes that SAL 900 probably has 50 whole KB of memory, but you think if asked to find the relevant meaning of "Phoenix" in the year 2010, her most likely guess would be Jean Grey.

[LeaveMeAlone99a]

There seems to be a lot of Artificial Intelligence programming out in Urbana, Illinois where Dr. Chandra is...

[KOLSARNIT]

love that monitor behind him

[alienhddna]

if sal was a real woman she will say keep your dam hands off of me

[Steven5812]

@alienhddna LOLOL "Keep your grubhooks off my circuits, buster; or you'll get what Frank got. I'm NOT that kind of girl."  With SAL's voice yet. :-D

[alienhddna]

computer voices dont sound that real yet but they our geting close

[NxCmp]

This is a primary example of the IBM computer "Watson" at work. Being able to connect the definition of the word phoenix and the conversation to realize that he plans to restart HAL. Just like a subject and a clue in jeopardy. Perfect.

[UnmeiNoShi]

It's 2011 bitches.

[PedroT2000]

In the book SAL 900 had an indian accent

[PedroT2000]

just like the book.

[txmoney]

Always wondered about the voice of SAL 9000. What a terrific portrayal and a perfect compliment to the original HAL 9000 voice.

Anyway, Candice Bergen was the voice.

[HowardBile]

Dr Chandra respects any being that is of intelligent moral values........she, SAL 9000 will sacrifice herself to help others....HAL 9000 was lied to.

[Lukasmahovic]

@HowardBile HAL 9000 wanted to sacrifise himself.

[netwalker72]

The SAL 9000´s voice recognition program, works in XP?

Where I can find the NOCD crack?

Its lready in Pirate Bay?

Why Chandra have one, and I cant find a damn torrent of this!! (seeds please)

Joke.

[MetropolisAnimeFan]

SAL smashes HAL in chess.

[jpsplat]

@MetropolisAnimeFan Bullll shit.

[TF2Fan101]

I enjoy talking about HAL.

0_0 Is there something you're not telling us, SAL?

[SuckMyTXPO]

lwlg stock is the begining of HAL 9000

[kcdl]

He sounds very much like he'd like to have an unnatural relationship with a computer. HAL has invaded his dreams.

[jpsplat]

@kcdl Invaded his dreams and in the darkest of his nightmares, beats him at chess.

[h2opolodan11]

lol I love the way Sal says "I enjoy talking about Hal"! cute and sexy voice ;)

[Theriot6592]

Dr. Chandra is supposed to be Indian

[jrcasselman]

@Theriot6592 Right and it was interesting how in the novel it mentioned that SAL had picked up his intonations and spoke like an educated woman from India.

[lotanerve]

It sounds like that office had ON STAR capability.

[Teankun]

It is Murphy Browne!

[RoulinBrooks]

Compare our 2010 to their 2010. Their computers are better. They've got a base on the moon. Manned interplanetary flight . . . . . .

But our flat screen monitors KICK THE ASS of their 2010 clunkers!

[agnernai]

It's funny, in 2001 the fake TVs were actually closer to today's flat screens than the dressed up CRTs in Hyams' sequel.

[ViewerNextDoor]

@RoulinBrooks LOL, good one! And don't forget the Internet they don't have mouses in their computers...oh wait...they can give instructions directly through speech. :( Nice try, though.

[ighforever]

Jesus is Lord of all.

[RoulinBrooks]

Meh.

[kroemme]

its 2010 and NOTHING HAPPENED damnit :D

[ComCodex]

The year's still young.

[NerdyLiberal]

@ComCodex

Not anymore

[Th3LetterH]

@ComCodex

*1 year later*

[XxRightNaoxX]

Too late, It might happen in 2030s(A parallel universe in the Space Odyssey universe, as said by A. Clarke)

[LeMarquisDivin]

@ComCodex And now it's over.

[WC3POchannel10A]

Yeah....nothing has happened....yet. :-D

[WC3POchannel10A]

@kroemme Well, we sort of made contact.....not on Europa, but in Mono Lake, California

[pmgodfrey]

It's been many years since I saw the film and I never realized that Candice Bergen did the voice work for the SAL 9000.

[FerrariandBMW]

Sal 9000? the guy who married the videogame girl? =D

[Suprasylph]

I think that whether or not SAL dreamed is a detail that's quite insignificant compared to Jupiter imploding and turning into a new star.

[TheNewNumberTw0]

Murphy Brown is inside the computer.

[RoulinBrooks]

But she's a lot more mellowed out.

[animelubbor432]

SAL-9000 is a sort of ironic thing: it's a computer, yet it made a mistake

[RoulinBrooks]

DID she make a mistake? The tutor of Achilles: a teacher of a powerful being. Which is how she thinks of Dr. Chandra and HAL. I agree that the phoenix rising from the ashes is the more likely choice, but it's a matter of interpretation. I like that she didn't get what Chandra meant on the first try.

[elpresidio]

OMG, what's that big honkin monitor thing on his desk? Even a bigger OMG, I can't believe 2010 is in 101 days! What?!

[GlueSniffer4Life]

This is weird considering there were flat screens in 2001 Odyssey. All things considered, I would trade our compact flat screens for computers like SAL and HAL.

[sparrowlt]

Did anything happened to SAL9000? Here Chandra tells her that she will sure dream.. but when he says goodbye to HAL and HAL ask the same question.. Chandra in tears says "I dont know"...

Does that mean that he lied to SAL or that something went wrong with SAL and thats why Chandra tells HAL that he doesnt know while tearing..

In the novel its not covered..but again in the novel Chandra is quite diferent and doesnt tell that to HAL or SAL

[agnernai]

Chandra's character arc demands that he evolve away from clumsy notions about the ghost in the machine after experiencing a real life and death situation on board the re-activated Discovery.

[Doug19752533]

@sparrowlt in the book 2010 HAL had brain damage for lack of a better term from being disconnected. he could not speak nor could you speak to him, all interaction had to be done via keyboard, and HALs responses would appear on the monitor. He also had memory gaps. In the movie he could only understand Chandra's voice at first. It is entirely possible somthing similar happened to SAL when Chandra disconnected her in the same way Bowman did HAL. was kind of a chop job.

[vicko77]

Chandra is my favourite character from any movie. A genius, a modest person....

[maureenOWW]

SAL would definately 'get it'.

By which I mean my penis.

[zappyhod]

Teaching a computer.

[Stevis82]

Candice Bergen!

[jackbliss]

They should've used a real Indian to play Dr. Chandra. No offense to Bob Balaban of course.

[RoulinBrooks]

I love Bob Balbaban, but you're 100% right.

[knoxvilleguy2]

The scene was still good. SAL's voice seems to take on an echo when she talks about the phoenix as " the tutor of Achilles ".

Dr. Chandra is more human in the film than in the novel. In the novel he's almost like Mr. Spock.

[maureenOWW]

He clearly isn't supposed to be indian in the film version, he has an american accent.

[jackbliss]

Then why exactly does he still have the name doctor Chandra... clearly an Indian name or atleast NOT an American name. The film makers really screwed up this movie BIG time. That's why it wasn't as big a hit as 2001 the original by Kubrick.

[arscon]

Well he could be 2nd-gen, but you're right. I don't think the movie wanted to emphasize his nationality.

[cubdukat]

@jackbliss I think Hyams had tried to find an Indian actor to play him, but they couldn't find one.

[jackbliss]

@cubdukat Couldn't find one??? Oh ya there are only about a billion of us on the planet lol xD

[SquishToGo]

Sal is actually a Smurfette from the year 2010 who ate so many smurfberries by then that she collapsed into a power-light sized smurfberry singularity.

[xXwortepXx]

hal is windows

sal is linux

mac is the future

[DevinTClark]

GIRUGAMESH

[kakabukkake0]

Right on!

[therevolutionary14]

Even though 2010 will never be in the same level as Kubrick's 2001 you have got to admit and admire the work that the director has done to try to create the same element that was in 2001 and i got to say he did a damn good job in doin it

[mustang6172]

I wonder how much porn he's downloaded with SAL.

[bbenjoe]

Rofl!

[gangstajacy]

@mustang6172 enough to make ron jeremy shit his pants lol

[assandthem]

is SAL computer supposed to seduce naughty HAL computer?

[ZemplinTemplar]

:-DD

[technologic21]

i never liked the "sequel."

2000 is a masterpiece,a real work of science fiction. Their mystery of 2000 was enough for me. I never cared to know about HAL's origins; he was activated on Jan 12th 1992, the first thing he learned was a song, "Daisy"- 'nuff 4 me. I never understood why they made a sequel.

[joejumps4fun]

Don't you mean "2001"?

[KorparnasTid]

"I never understood why they made a sequel."

Because Arthur C. Clarke wrote 3

[Infocollective22]

@KorparnasTid 4,better reason to make 2 more films...

[jpatriquin]

I love the Space Odysses's. I wish that some one would make 2061 and 3001 a movie

[Gerchotazo]

i hope that too.

[Cataclypso]

Sexy voice :D

[shakezula29]

Candice Bergen, lol

[jamieleng]

I dunno, I do like this film but it looks like it was made in the eighties whereas 2001 looks timeless. That might be because it was made during my lifetime with actors I easily recognise (Scheider, Lithgow etc.) or maybe that the technology envisioned in 2001 was scarily accurate. Either way, I wish Tom Hanks would get on with adapting one or both of the last chapters of this quadrilogy.

[zappyhod]

hal...lost it..becaue of human error..the best minds created hal...but they lefts something out..they lied to him...a human flaw in his programming...never programmed the concept of a lie...or how to dal with it in his lil neuorobrinstem...so that s the reason he lost it...and..what they encoutered on.bchaoooou;chiZchOed.svh

[ingareinar007]

I would never have dared to do a "follow up" to 2001!

[sweetyoli2008]

The matrix begins

[manicminer2010]

love the relationship they have and the respect he shows to HAL and SAL. The idea that anything, machine or animal can become self aware with intelligence and the possibility of dreaming is not crazy. Arthur C Clarke was a genius!

[SFFOOL76]

I thought this was a underrated movie, not as good as 2001. But a good movie nonetheless, the ending is what's gonna happen in 2012.

[em23]

and candice bergen as sal....

[lestube001]

funny compters cant even do this now

[magicianspirit]

Funny...he's supposedly talking to this super sophisticated computer, and yet look how grungy he's dressed and how cluttered his office is. Plus he's typing on an ancient phosphor screen! Maybe you can't judge a whole movie from a single clip, but this seems like a terrible letdown from the original 2001: A Space Odyssey. Then again that shouldn't be surprising, as sequels rarely live up to the originals.

[NoOne3234]

While it is true that the technology is out of date, the same is true with most old scifi movies/books. For example, HG Wells' tripods would have lasted five minutes against the modern US military. I wonder what they will make fun of in ten years...

I also take issue with your comments about his cluttered office and bad personal appearance. If you've seen many labs that have the latest technology, the workspace is often cluttered and the people don't necessarily wear the finest suits.

[magicianspirit]

Yeah, but I was comparing it to the original movie, 2001: A Space Odyssey, where the computers, clothing and society looked more advanced than they do in this movie, which is supposedly set in a later date than the original!

[RoulinBrooks]

Yeah, but 2001 is set on a space station and on the Discovery. Of course, things are bound to be neat and tidy. But there will always be clutter and computer geniuses (some of them) will always dress like slobs. I think it made 2010 much more realistic. Who wants the whole world to look super-sterile a la Space 1999?

[CrazyHorseInvincible]

Don't know if this had an effect on the movies, but the culture of computing dramatically changed between the two movies. The '60s belonged to companies like IBM with clean floors and men in suits. The '80s belonged to Unix, with clutter and Unix beards galore.

[spheresus]

so Dr.Chandra and SAL 9000 are lovers?

One day Dr.Chandra came back from work exhuasted but eager to plug into SAL 9000. As Dr.Chandra prepared his I/O device he heard funny noises from inside SAL 9000. To his dismay he turned on the monitor to see that SAL 9000 was interfacing with an older program named Windows Vista who she met online in a forgotten directory of old programs.

Dr.Chandra cursed the day he opened the firewall and let SAL 9000 outside the mainframe!

[freepatriot]

Bob Balaban FTW

Awesome actor

[Azilythe]

I think we're already near the level of AI to have a conversation. Just not the philosophical, rhetorical, or sarcastic type, most answers to those are just simulations or prerecorded ones.

[BeachofDreams]

There is a fine line between simulated and "real" intelligence. Perhaps, after a certain point, there is no difference at all.

[XxJERRYJERRYxX]

u can tell hal is better than sal. more human anyways, if u all know wat i mean

[maureenOWW]

Only cos he's fuckin crazy and has been molested by an extraterrestrial intelligence (possibly).

[WolfxZer0]

Absolutely beautiful scene.

[RoulinBrooks]

A very understated scene. You're right--it's wonderful.

[conover07]

Candace Bergen as a computer. Who'da thunk it?

[maureenOWW]

That clearly wanted an actress who had no ability to emote. That's Bergen for ya, talentless cunthole...

[josieldeassis]

SAL 9000 should work in a 'Sex-Line'

[zappyhod]

bullshit..pull the power plug out you die bitch

[youreale]

Good points all over here guys...

[hentrixelise]

wow...2010 is comming and we isnt near at this lvl -_-

[bstep13]

I hope voyager makes contact with something by then!!! that would be very interesting!!!

[sausageslaps]

2010 is coming, i sincerley hope that we are at this level when the time comes

[BigAngeloSantorini]

Yeah i hope our computer screens will be on that level too. Up to two lines of text in the screen simultaneously.

[bathysiderodrome]

Buy the Laserdisc, its better than DVD, and get the LP soundtrack.

[cubdukat]

Or the CD, if you can find it. I had a copy of it once, but foolishly I sat on it. Apparently CDs were never designed to support 200 pounds.

It usually commands a really high price on eBay.

[gregfujita]

I love this film. I remember being a messenger and having to go to peter hyams office (near the 3rd st promenade in santa monica) few times and meeting him. I told him 2010 is one of my fav films. He smiled and said thank you. Certainly, one of the best photographed sci fi films:a kinda haze and soft lighting that is rare in hi tech films like 2010.

[the06rebel]

can you put the whole movie on here???

[Padawanmage]

I could be wrong, but I think Candice Bergen was the voice of Sal.

Funny how we're now close to the actual year 2010 and I see this and see such differences: in film, they still use CRT's and we have flat screen LCDs.

And we're still a long way from AI like this.

[ComCodex]

Computer A.I. is a fascinating subject. Different sources believe human-level intelligence will be achieved via computer within the next 26 years. We'll see....

[iamuandwhatiseeisme]

Amazing how much Chandra's computer looks like the original Apple iMac.

[cubdukat]

You are indeed correct. She took the pseudonym "Olga Mallsnerd," which was a variation on one of her father Edgar's characters.

[h2opolodan11]

@Padawanmage lol I remember when I watched "2001" when it turned 2001. Then I watched "2010" now.

[blueangel0394]

@Padawanmage ur right about candice

[magnavox50]

i Love his movie post More!