@nabizzle Because all of Deedat's assertions have been demonstrated incorrect, inaccurate, and otherwise for centuries. There is not a single argument of Deedat's that stands.
What is realized is that should you ever study Jesus' words you will quickly discover that Jesus, from his own mouth, contradicts Islam numerous times. If Islam is true, then Jesus is a liar. Jesus, on numerous occasions, told you that he came to die (Mark 8:31, 9:31, 10:33-34) yet Islam denies this. 1 Example.
As the Sheikh said "for non-Muslims, whether you want to know about Islam, or you want to FIGHT (argue) with Muslims, there is no better WEAPON than the Quran". There you go, be educated, as we have also educate ourselves with your book.
My dear friend I don't want to convince you to accept Christianity but my appeal to Muslims is not to follow the book which orders the killing of the people because it can't be from god and the bible warns u that every other gospel other than the Bible should be accursed and I am begging you to speak with Stanley VILLAVINCENCIO from city of Cebu in Philippines who was 3 days clinically dead and after three days his family prepared for funeral and after 3 days he stood up healthy.
@austriaheute first the qor'an is not a gospel, second the word bible is never mentioned in the bible.
3rd thing is that the qor'an is a book of guidance and does not allow simply killing anyone...
allah gave us permision to wage war against those who declare war against us, those who opress us, those who attack us...allah gives us permision to fight against these ppl, and the sunnah tells us to kill only the soldiers, unlike the us that bombs everyone blindly...
@austriaheute the qor'an is not a book of stories which u read and then go to sleep...the qor'an is a book of laws, what do u do in this case and what do u do in that case, a book of examples of the ppl before us, what they did in some cases, how they faced some challenges etc.
in the qor'an there is no such thing as "turn the other cheek" nor in christianity...chrstian scholars still debate what that means because in real life its not practical
@austriaheute if muslim would have literally taken this verse and apply its rough meaning islam wouldnt have existed today, and also cristianity because christians didnt apply that verse literally...
its not practical...so allah regulates our lives, what do we do in times of peace, what do we do in times of war, its a legislation not a story book.
or many other stroys of incests, you would probably would say if your reasonable that those stories are added by historians , which means that the books has been changed by the people.... IF Allah Wills Allah will guide you ask for your creater to guide you And if Allah wills he surly will guide you to the striagth path, beacuse IF you can not admit the points rasied by the great Sheikh Ahmad Deedat, then my points will not even make a dent in your idealogy since you have closed it
no word of historian , us muslims believe in Tora, Zabor , Injeel, and the Quaran Majid. the first 3 books have not remained in their original inspiration , as it has seen numerous addation and deletion , the Quran Majid mircale of Allah has remined pure with out deletion and addition . Even today there is different version bibles, do not say that there is none because Kings James and Roman Catholic is different in the last 7 books, do you say that stroy of prophet Lut is true ?
Abrahams nephew who was not a prophet , yes I believe tehre was such a historical character.
The information was not "Added" by historians but is a part of God's word.
And as a side note: It does not matter if there are 6.5 Billion Muslims in the world and I was the ONLY believe in Jesus, the number of people who believe something does not make it true.
The simple fact of the matter is that Islam contradicts the Old Testamanet and the New and the very words of the Messiah himself.
@jorsak 1. You are right " the number of people who believe something does not make it true." 2.You are wrong Muslim has to believe in Jesus (miraculous birth, wonders and signs ect) 3.Islam does not contradicts the Old/New Testament If it all the New/Old Testament contradics the Islam Next thing is what you are trying to tell me is wrong. YOUR PREACHERS TEACH YOU SOMETHING THAT IS NOT NOT NOT NOT TO BE FOUND IN YOUR SCRIPTURES
The law of God requires sacrifice for the atonement of sin (Leviticus 16:15-16, 17:11, Hebrews 9:22) Islam denies this
The prophets foretold the coming Messiah's role to BE that sacrifice (Isaiah 53:4-6,10,12, Psalm 22) Islam denies this
The Messiah told you with his own mouth that he came to die (Mark 8:31, 9:31, 10:33-34) and exactly HOW he would die (Matthew 20:19, 26:2) and exactly WHY he must die (Matthew 26:28).
@jorsak e.g. You were told that Jesus is God and if you watched this debate "Is Jesus God? - Ahmed Deedat Vs Eric Bock" IT IS VERY VERY VERY VERY easy for you to make out and differentiate what is true and what is false. and you cant helped you HAVE TO EMBRACE ISLAM BECAUSE AFTER PROOFING TO YOU THAT JESUS IS NOT JESUS IS NOT GOD your whole system of worshiping a man (Jesus) not God almighty fall apart, and your crucifiction (if it happened) becomes useless coz a man cant carry all sins :)
@SuperZorro92 sorry. Deedat's tired arguments have been refuted for centuries. He will only debate people like Bock who have a weak mastery of the English language or Televangelists after his stunning defeat by a REAL scholar (Josh McDowell) in 1981 which taught him never to go down that road again.
Of course... now he is debating with Satan where he is currently residing.
@JoakimAcosta I know that scripture is very clear that a denial of Jesus' death on the cross as a means of atonement for sin results in eternal separation from God.
Thus, I do not need to be God to know his outcome as I know for certain that Deedat denied Jesus' death on the cross as all Islam does.
hmmm your arguments are baseless I really do not understand, historiacal documents with addition and deletion does not prove truth and accuracy, and espically with 5 major revisions, if I take your arguement then you should not really learn new testement becuase the old testment is older and more accurate is that what you suggest???????????????????? beaucse there is 1300 years difference between Prohphet Moses PBUH and Isa PBUH, no we are meant to follow inspration of Allah almighty not
It is not contridiction to the law of almigthy God and belive me every muslim loves Jesus PBUH more than you as such they do not accuse him or say anything which is outside what has Allah revealed to us in the Qouran Majid,
What shall I say? when you see you can not argue in one topic you jump on the terrosit wagon , for your infromation read the Quran Karem so you would understand and do not fire free from your belly , all you do are trying to nothing but vain and Allah will reward you
I respect that you believe you love Jesus and I know you do not intentionally call him a liar. However, that is exactly what Islam makes Jesus out to be.
The simple fact is that Jesus repeatedly stated that he came to die (Mark 8:31, 9:31, 10:33-34,) even telling in advance HOW he would die (Matthew 20:19,26:2) and specifically WHY he must die (Matthew 26:28) and yet Islam tells him that he really didn't die.
You cannot say you love a man who you make out to be a liar.
The Qur'an did not come along for 600+ years after Jesus had left the Earth. The Bible warns us that Satan masquerades as an angel of Light )2 Corinthians 11:14) so it is not a surprise to know that a different message other than what Jesus taught was brought into being.
I would challenge you to study the words of Jesus for yourself and not what your Muslin scholars tell you Jesus said.
I have provided not one but numerous verses that were from the mouth of Jesus himself that
And you accuse me of being unable to defend a topic? My goodness! What topic? There is NO topic here that has been respectfully presented that I haven't utterly discussed at length and completely rebutted.
If you feel there is a topic that I have been unable to answer, by all means pose it.
You say I have jumped on the terrorist band wagon? BAND WAGON???
Muslims are unwilling to admit that they have a problem in their own religion. (Cont.)
with fanatical people calling on the name of Allah and blowing up trains, planes, buses, night clubs, etc. Study after study shows that there is a 7-13% population of Islam that believes killing innocents in the name of Allah is perfectly acceptable.
That is not a bandwagon. That is a sad fact of reality and it disgusts me that no Muslim here is willing to admit it. Simply stating that Muslim terrorists are not Muslims is a ridiculous argument as that entire group would disagree (Cont.)
In conclusion, Islam came AFTER Christianity by 600+ years and teaches a message that completely contradicts the words of Jesus himself. I cannot ever in good conscience follow or even have a desire to study something with the intent to learn more about God when it is immediately in contradiction to God's word.
And as I said, if there is a question you think I can't answer, then pose it. I have answered all questions posed here.
And what do you call your country which killed millions of innocents look at your bloody history
1.Veitnam
2.Japan
3.Red indians
4.South americans
5.Cuba
6.Iraq
7.Sudan
and whats hidden and unknown are more Jorsak stop calling us muslims terrorists without looking at your history blowing up trains and clubs.. what do you call 9/11 then a pure inside job a false flag open your mouth for that
I do not Know why you can not understand the point, 1,8 billion muslim and still counting will all testify that in the Quran Majid there is no such thing as terrorism that is why i am saying read it then come up with arguement, yeah sure they are muslims. Now you have seen prof of it infront of your eyes islam is the fastest growing religon in USA and Europe espically after 9 11 but people are guided by Allah and you can not twist truth
If they had done what have you done to not read it the Glorius Quran, then suraly we should have seen a drop in the growth of islam past 9 11. and then you make stuff it is really my broher in humanity it is really wrong please as I told you read it ,->come argue, when you debat a topic even in in a primitive way you have to have the information about it to debat , why your scared to to read it ,I am sure you do read many other books
Since you study these manay history books and any other books I assume for your comments, maybe go read Quran not to convert but to just may beto refut us , but if you do not wanting to do it you have some other hidden secret,
There are myriads of religions that violate the law of God, the prophets, and the Messiah's teachings. I do not have the time or inclination to study them to know them better.
Islam teaches that Yeshua (Jesus) did not die on the cross which is in direct contradiction to the Law of God, the Prophets of God, and the Messiah himself.
I do not need to study your faith more to know that that is a critical contradiction and I have discussed it at length.
ISLAM has brought it's attack on Christianity and not the other way around.
The Qur'an is written as a polemic (argument against) Christianity.
Read Surah 4:156-159.
There is NO HIDDEN SECRET that I believe Islam clearly contradicts the word of God and I post here to demonstarte that point and to answer the numerous supposed contradictions that are brought up.
That is my clearly asserted reason for being here my friend. No secrets at all.
I do not want to discuss anything without as such you do not have inclination as you said to be guided by Allah (God) creater of all for your information look at this video ,
Dr. Jerald Dirks: (1 of 8) Early Christians viewed Jesus as a human prophet, not as God. and it rebute your asseration of that he was crucified,
And now please do not corrupt these conversation with these sorts of allegations if your a fair and just person you qoute the attrosites comitted by both sides and the shear size of each. everyone knows how many inoccent americans dies becuse of the gun voilence have you every heard that persons who have shoted these innocent people being labled as either christian or jew noooo, but god forbid if a muslim who is in name muslim but not by practice he will be a lable for the whole religion
look this was not the topic but I want to clearify these points to you what histroy are you studying that you missing the 10 housand afghans which dies in the itail start of the 2001 war which us invaded afghanistan , and what happens when a bombs drops on to civilian a sorry does it for you guys, what church did Georg Bush belong too, when you guys do these sort of stuff you do not say it a christain man today ordered to kill these many muslims why not being fair .
#1. The USA is NOT a Christian nation ran as a Christian religion ruled nation unlike the Islam controlled states of Iran and Afghanistan before the war.
George Bush did not order any attack as a"Christian." He ordered it as the president of the USA which has NOTHING to do with him being a Christian, Budhist, or anything else.
#2. It is absolutely ridiculous to attempt an argument as the above when those who attack trains, plains, buses, nightclubs, etc., are doing
When he Strays...lol. Pathetic attempt to distract people from Ahmed Deedats skill in destroying his so called counterparts. Check on Youtube, whether it was Sharrosh, Swaggart Rook, etc all got destroyed. Go and do youself a favour, poke your eyes out and stick something in your ears becuase your behaving Blind, Death and stupid.
Not true ... Bible does prophecise about Muhammed. there are a dozen referance to him.
If you are looking for names... then please note that NOT A SINGLE PROPHECY FOR JESUS IS THERE in OT that calls him out by name. NOT ONE. Thats not a how Bible works....
Hello my friend! I hope all is well with you and yours.
Gen 49:10 cannot be about Mohamed as scripture is perfectly clear that Shiloh MUST be from the family line of David. (Isaiah 11:10)
Additionally, there is NO place in scripture that refers to Mohamed. If you'd like to give me your favorite examples, I will be happy to demonstrate how they are not speaking of Mohamed.
Thank you for the kind words. I have come to my faith in Jesus not by accident nor as a result of birth but by many long long hours of study and close examination of scripture and history.
HI jorsak your answer from previous videos are sometimes shows you the very an inteligent missionaries where I get in my house. When you guys ask questions most muslims will answer you honestly but when muslims asks you a challenging questions you talk about september 11. Ok it happened and you saying hat muslims did , fair point. now who was Hitler wasnot he a christian , did not he kill 4 millions Jews, did not the american in ww2 killed about 2k japaness , now who is the hypocrate
PS. Hitler was not a Christian and expressed and open disgust of Christianity. He tried to play Christian early in the war because he did not want to make an enemy of the church.
His loathing of the church is well documented.
Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda, noted:
"The Fuhrer is deeply religous, though completely anti-Christian. He views Christianity as a symptom of decay."
In fact, it has been well documented that Hitler favored Islam and here is a quote.
"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"
(Adolf Hitler, quoted by Albert Speer, p. 96, Inside the Third Reich.)
I've addressed this assertion several times now. Can we agree to argue through the points on one video instead of several? i think the last time was on video 3.
Additionally, there's not one single reference to Mohamed in the Bible.
Ishmael is a descendant of Abraham, not of David. And we do not have to wonder who the prophecy is attributed to. Seventeen verses in the New Testament describe Jesus as the "son of David." 2 Samuel 7:14-16. David's descendants would be on the thrown forever.
Matthew 1 gives the genealogical proof that Jesus, in His humanity, was a direct descendant of Abraham and David through Joseph, Jesus' legal father.
In banks when a new teller is hired and trained that teller never works with counterfeit money. They ONLY train with real money. The reason is that when the come in contact with a counterfeit it will stick out like a sore thumb. Much the same with spiritual truth. When you become so familiar with the word of God the counterfeit sticks out like a sore thumb.
Read the New Testament of the Bible of the words said by Yeshua (JESUS):
Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I came to replace the Torah and the teachings of the prophets; I did not come to destroy them, but rather to fulfill them."
Matthew 15:24 "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
Luke 18:19 "Why do you call me good? There are none good but God."
John 6:38 "For I came down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him that sent me".
John 11:25-26 "I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die."
Isaiah 7:14 and Isaiah 9:6 speaks about the birth of the Messiah. Immanuel from Isaiah 7:14 means "God with us", God came to earth from heaven and incarnated and manifested in the flesh in the person of Yeshua the Messiah. Yeshua HaMashiach is Immanuel meaning Yeshua HaMashiach is The Incarnation of Yahweh.
Yeshua HaMashiach was not the first appearance of God in the flesh. It is ridiculous, hypocrisy and insane if you say and think that you can do anything that God can't do. God can do anything according to his will, he can interact with his creation and above all of that God appeared and manifested himself in the flesh many times in the Tanakh (see Genesis 3:8, Genesis 18:1-14, Genesis 32:24-30, Exodus 24:9-11, Joshua 5:13-15, Judges 13:22, Proverbs 30:4).
Christianity exists as a testimony to the Messiah,it is a faith that began only after Jesus claimed he was God,only after Jesus was sent to the cross where died on the cross as proven by the Roman soldier who stabbed Jesus to ensure he was dead,then Jesus rose from the dead as he said he would,that is when Christianity came into existence,not before
Christianity is a faith that trusts and has faith in God who said he would come as a man
Bonjour, you havent told me your church denomination? Please tell me. I must tell you, you are very consistent in pushing down the Jesus as God through the others throat, no matter how un successful you are in it, but you have great patience, thats good. Keep it up.
first best greetig peace be upen u,second i asked god to guid u.
didn,t u read the Bible,just u heard and follow it,that is why u said no prophet after jesus can u read plsss John 1:20-25
who is that prophet? ISAIAH 29:12 WHO IS THIS CANNOT READ OTHER THAN MUHAMMAD PBUH? DET. 18:18 who is that? please readthe BIBLE and u can find many verse which talk about muhammed,and also read the quran
I have read both the Bible and the Koran and the Bible never said Muhammad would come instead it proved by God's own choice of Isaac over Ishmael that Muhammad never could be a prophet of God and I have read the Koran and saw its violence, it threats, its briberies, its robbery of other prophets but nothing in it that came from God
God is not a liar and God is not forgetful, he would never choose a man like Muhammad who married a child, who had sex with one of his daughters
Muhammad claimed in sura 61:6 that Jesus announced the coming of an apostle the ahmad to whom Muhammad claimed was himself but Jesus never said an apostle would come rather Jesus said the Holy Spirit who lives in all people on earth would come and that instantly proves Muhammad was a false prophet
Most people until 100 years ago could not read, as reading was a skill of the elite and Deut 18:18 was taken by Jesus in John 5:46 and John 1:45 in which Philip said we found the one Moses wrote about
Did u read John properly. It sais in black in white, " Finally they said to him:
tell us who you are, so that we can give some answer to those who sent us. What do you have to say for yourself?"
He (John the baptist) said, qouting the prophet Isiah, " I am
'a voice in the desert, crying out:
Make way the way of the LORD!"
John the baptist was talking about Jesus who is LORD. He is not talking about mohammed because he also said, " He will baptize you with FIRE and the HOLY SPIRIT
In Isiah. It sais, "read this", he replies, " I cannot it is sealed", When it is handed to the one who cannot read, with the request "read this" he replies, " I cannot read." But you have to keep reading. It also goes to say,
The Lord said: Since this people draws near with words only and honors me with their lips alone, though their hearts are far from me. This passage means not mohammed but Jerusalem, who in her blindness refuse to believe in Gods revelation that she will be saved.
Also DET. That prophet is not mohammed but in turn Jesus. You may say then why do we christians call him God. Well true Jesus is God but he is also the fullfiller of the scriptures meaning he is THE GREAT PROPHET in whom the prophetic office finds its fulfillment and completion, this passage was understood in a special messianic sense both by the jews and by the Apostles. Please read the Bible properly and don't assume things before you know them. I hope you find the true way. I will pray for u.
Muhammad claimed he was announced to come by Jesus as the Ahmad which is the Comforter or Holy Spirit of truth which means Muhammad took his belief from John 16-12 without the ability to realize in John 14:16-17 that the Holy Spirit of truth is with all people and lives in all people
Muh claimed to be God and he didn't know it,
Jesus is God,he said so many times and he went to the cross and rose from the dead to prove it,that is when Christianity came into existence and not before
P.S. The "Ahmad" does not mean Comforter or Holy Spirit, it is another name for Muhammed meaning praise worthy, learn some Arabic before critizizing it.
Deedat being a devoted Muslim,was taught Jesus didn't die on the cross,that Jesus was only a prophet in which the Quran teaches nothing Jesus taught instead the Quran teaches the opposite of everything Jesus taught,then it is no wonder Muslims cannot comprehend that Jesus is in them and in all people on earth because Jesus said he was God and he proved it just as he will prove it when he returns as God
Paul is not a prophet,he was a devout Jew who witnessed the Resurrected Jesus for he had to see to believe
The Bible contains your only blessing you will receive and it contains God's promises and it contains proof Muhammad was a false prophet
You have been deceived and you cannot believe it so wait until judgement day,until then be a good Muslim and trust in God's goodness,despite Muhammad added Satan before God
Either way, Im going to enjoy the rest of my vacation in the Bahamas and not tangling my self with your non sense.
Good day, good week, good month, good year, i'm sick of the name "BonjourNuite26" since it's ignorant and unknowledged about Islam. You probably get your "corrupt info," corrupt sites,I suggest you do the investigating.
Even though this word is hollow to you, Peace, I also get peace from GOD, you dont get it from Jesus bec. he is not God.
Here you are on a Muslim site that pretends to ask the question,is Jesus God when Deedat knew dam well Muhammad claimed Jesus was only a prophet like himself when Muh was the opposite of Jesus
Muh taught hatred,fear and violence
You and every Muslim can refute the facts all you want but you cannot change the fact that Jesus is God who is with you and every Muslim on earth and the day you learn that fact is the day you learn Muhammad was totally deceived and he deceived his followers
Muslims cannot doubt what Muhammad said because Muh said people who accept Islam are wise but those who do not are evil
What I write is repeative and feeble because you totally disregard that I have the right to stand up for my religion against those who have no right to offend it
I do know about Islam,it is not just a religion but the only religion that teaches to hate the non believer,it is the only religion that contradicts God as it is the only religion that begins with a false prophet
Muh is the only one who ever claimed he was praise worthy and who allowed his followers to praise him when only God deserves our praise,for creating the universe,for creating life on earth and for creating us with the ability to perceive God's own presence not Muhammad who married a 6 year old child,who took his adopted son's wife,and who had sex with one of his daughters
Muh is the only one who praises himself when he taught falsehoods that made Islam an oppressive religion contradicting God
Muh involved Jesus,when Muh claimed Jesus announced the coming of the apostle,the Ahmad to which Muh claimed he was the Ahmad when the Ahmad is God only,John 14:16-17
proving by Muh's own mouth that Muh was never God's prophet
For Jesus never announced that another apostle would come after him,one who would contradict everything Jesus taught and who would say the Bible of both the Jews and Christians were falsified when Muh didn't know the languages of the Bible
Jesus claimed he was God,many times and many ways,he went to the cross for claiming he was God and he rose from the dead to prove it,and only then did Christianity come into existence and not before,even the apostle John said in John 2:22 after Jesus was raised from the dead,then his disciples believed the words Jesus had spoken(not before!)
That you claimed Adam was a prophet proves you are a Muslim,for only Muhammad claimed Adam was a prophet,never God and no other religion.
Read properly because I said Adam was never a prophet because he was the first to disobey God and Muhammad was never a true prophet because he contradicted God for God chose Isaac not Ishmael to carry the prophetic line and Muhammad claimed he descended from Ishmael which contradicts God.
Gen.17:18-21 your wife Sarah will bear you a son and you will call him Isaac,I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him, as for Ishmael I will surely bless him but my covenant I will establish with Isaac
That doesen't need to mean that he was "singularly chosen" for prophethood, what is the covenant that is spoken about, it's merely your own interpreation. I also heard Doctor Zakar Naik speaking about this, I could give you a link if you want.
Muh claimed he descended from Ishmael,he also claimed Ishmael was a prophet but God himself said Ishmael was a wild donkey of a man always fighting with his brothers
The point is only Jews could be true prophets
here at this site speaks Deedat saying Jesus isn't God because Muh said Jesus wasn't God yet Jesus did say and prove He is God
So the covenant that is everlasting means the Jews alone carried God's promises and prophecies for our world proof is their return to Israel 60 years ago
The Bible has thousands of teachings,but the Holy Spirit guided me straight to that passage in Genesis 17:18-20
It is the same with Muhammad saying Jesus is the Christ and the Messiah yet never understanding both the Christ and the Messiah mean the same thing,it means Jesus is God
So the same when God chose Abraham's second son to carry the convenant,that means no prophets would come out of Ishmael
you think it is only my interpretation when it is evidence Muhammad was a false prophet
What a religious fanatic you are. " The Holy Spirit guided me"?
Muhammed PBUH never said Jesus was the Christ, he said
He was the Masheeh, arabic for Messiah. Never is the word Christ use. Do you know pots and pans, pillars, were called Messiashs, in the Bible, does that mean that they are God's too? I can give references.
I'm afraid that you're blinded to the truth, I truly feel sorry for you because you are almost neglecting everything I say. Your running in circles. I'l pray for you though.
At one site of Naik he said why would God come as a man,no he didn't
As if Christianity never existed as if Christians didn't have proof to their beliefs
Then at another Naik site,he said I and the Father are one,does not means the same identity but one in purpose when Naik had to have taken the line I and the Father are one in which it is stated,the Jews wanted to stone Jesus for blasphemy saying,you a mere man claim to be God
Yet Naik pretended he never saw or heard that very passage
No friend, it is not hollow, it is strong, and it is keeping alive 1.8 billion people, ( 235% growing ), so sir, have a good day, and Ramadan is coming up and im quite excited!
No prophet was to come after Jesus,and you would say that Christianity is a false religion then that means you don't believe in Judgment or in hell fire
If Christianity is false and Muhammad claimed he was fortold to come by Jesus as the ahmad or comforter that would prove instantly what I was saying that he was false because the comforter or holy spirit of truth is how Jesus is in all people on earth
" as the Ahmad or comforter" Congratulations, you have just showed everyone your ignorance. Ahmad is a name not a title, it just shows your knowledge of the Arabic language, and the Quran, the one youve been critizising so earnestly. Brothers , Sisters, don't waste your time with him, he just runs around in circles re writing everything he says. Seriously, I don't have time. I'm not replying anymore, but I wish you peace...
Muhammad said Jesus announced the coming of an apostle,the Ahmad to which Muhammad claimed he was but the Ahmad or Comforter or Holy Spirit of truth is God and God only,Jesus wasn't sending someone 500 years after him,he was sending to his disciples days after he rose from the dead,awareness of his,own omnipresence for Jesus is God.
Truly being guided by the Holy Spirit is how all people are quided by God,except they do not know it,oh Deedat said he believed in Jesus as the Christ!
Yes false gods came in many forms,but the biggest today is satan added before God by Muhammad
I like to take the Qurans words over Deedat's thank you very much. Quran never uses the word Christ, it says "maseeh" which is Arabic for Messiah. And I dont even understand your second comment so I can't really reply. John 10:30 has been refuted a billion times, if thats what your asking. Sorry but Christianity is a false religion and Jesus isn't God, and ocne more, Paul where you get all of your doctrine from is a false prophet. If you dont mind, you can stop spamming messages to me now. Peace
Here you are at Deedat's site in which he is offering you his speculations on the important matter of Jesus being God,in which Deedat's premise is that the whole Bible is falsified by Muh who only claimed that but he couldn't prove his claim because he couldn't read his own language and he didn't know that the languages of the Bible that was in Hebrew,Greek and Latin.
What?!?!? What is your point here, its as if your a bot or something. Just, enough, seriously I don't have time for this. It's as if you say the same thing. Jeez.
Yes,1 billion Muslims are strong in their faith,for they have only good intensions of serving God but they have been deceived and more and more join them
When Ramadan comes,enjoy your fast
Like I said we will only agree that steak is good,and we will agree on nothing else
There you go , you made a reply without trying to Bash Islam. Congratulations, but yes I love Ramadan, and I love fasting as an act of God for it teaches me patience and love for the poor. And btw, its Good Morning here.
You said to me, to stop spamming messages,I do not spam,I read your messages that you have sent to me and I feel obliged to respond to them so if you don't want me to write you,then don't write to me,is that plain and simple for you?
Don't say peace,it is too phony to me
When Muslims think they are big experts on Christianity because they reject everything in it,yet they fail to see only Muhammad was the world's only false prophet and how deceived it that
I log into my hotmail and I see about 20 notifications of message, so my question is, do you, sir, have a life? If peace is not valid to you then I don't know what it is. If Muhammed was the worlds only false prophet, what about Gandi, did you idolize him as a God too? Go ahead and worship anything that can do miracles as God, in the end, you'll see whos right, and whos wrong. Btw, Jesus himself said in the Hebrew tongue " Shalom Alaikom" Which is the equivalent of Salam Wa Alakiom.
You had 20 notifications because I took my time to answer your responses that you made to my comments
Then don't write me
post your messages at the bottom box
Gandi was not prophet,nor did he claim to be,nor did he invent a religion contradicting God's compassion and Gandi never promoted hatred against the non believer as did Muh
It is the end and I do see who is right and wrong concerning God
Jesus's presence gives true peace,Muslims merely utter the words peace and those words are hollow
Yes you heard Naik but did you hear Deedat and Naik lie,I have in every video I watched of them,Naik said Christians worshipped the apostles as gods but then Muh said Christians worshiped Mary as a god,and Deedat tried to say Muhammad was the Holy Spirit of truth because the he gender was mentioned 7 or 8 times
Naik was a follower of Deedat and both lied when God who is the truth never requires liars to teach about God
I don't want the link to Naik,I probably have it anyway
Naik wasen't a follower of Deedat, he was inspired by him. I don't know what you mean by follower, though. Deedat never said that Cathlics worship Mary, pbuh, as a goddes, he said they treat her like one when they pray to her as an idol ( In Islam we call this shirk )
"Holy Spirit of truth because the he gender was mentioned 7 or 8 times"
Actually, Deedat pointed this out to make it obvious that the reference was to a male....
I'd like to see where Deedat accused C. of worshipmg apostl
Before Jesus was sent to the cross,he said he gave eternal life to us,that He and the Father are one,to which the Jews picked up stones to stone Jesus,saying you a mere man claim to be God.John 8-58
After Jesus rose from the dead,he told his disciples to baptise people in all nations, for Jesus is with us always and all power and authority in both Heaven and Earth are his
It is His world and he is reclaiming it from the lies of Satan
As this is a Muslim site and as no prophet was to come after the Messiah,only the Messiah is to return and as not one Muslim knows the Messiah and Christ means Jesus is God who went to cross,rose from the dead, to continue teaching He is in all people on earth and when the world learns that truth,it will be heaven on earth
Wow your copy and pasting as if it was an automated message. If your going to do that, atleast make it sound convincing. Jes wasen't God.
That is the type of arguement you are giving, are you unfit to prove that with logic, because I cann tell you right now all that copy and pasting is going to waste because you arent convincing anyone.
I do not copy and paste,I go through the long procedure of re-writing each message and best of all,I do not write to Muslims who are next to brain dead rather I write for the poor unsuspecting victims that have googled and found their way here to this spider trap of deceptions.
As most Westerners do not know either the Bible nor the Quran,I inform them Islam is not from God,there is substantial proof Muhammad was a false prophet and most of all Jesus is God who is with all people on earth.
Actually, I am 200% sure you copy and paste, because they are 500% identical. I doubt that actully happend by coincidence. And please show me that proof, I would like to see it. Otherwise, your spew won't convince anyone unless you attach logic to it. OTHERWISE, I feel sorry for you because your wasting time doing this while I can assure you have convereted NONE.
Well then you are 200% percent wrong because I re-write them every time
When all of what Muh said were mere claims,when Muh proved not one thing he said,nor could he,he demanded you ask for proof,but he failed to tell you what to do, when proof is given,for all the Quran, teaches those who doubt Muh are evil and no Muslim dares to contradict Muh
I seek not to convert,I seek merely to inform those who are non Muslim as for Muslims,they must wait until Judgment day to learn the truth
Truly, I suggest you go to your local colledge and take a class in theology or philosophy, your points are weak, and you just spew conclusions out. I read your posts and laugh inside, i'l reply when you can give me an ACTUAL arguement. Otherwise, good day.
"Jesus will say to him, I never knew you away you evil doer" actually Jesus will say this to the Christians, for worshipping as a God, give me the context of this and il gladly show you.
Actually , Nuit, Paul was a false prophet who concactud his own beleif that Jesus was God, which he derived from Roman Paganism. He has many contradictions in his writings and has rarely been shown to be truthful. The Jesus Paul preaches is not the true Jesus of God that Muhammed did.
Look up towards the screen, Deedat is a Muslim,he has over 1000 youtube sites alone,in which Naliakbar hosts.
It is not possible to convince Muslims of any truth for they must believe in the lies they were taught until judgment day
Therefore it is not a waste of my time,because I might save one person from joining the only religion on earth that begins with a false prophet who never served God but only served Satan.
The quantity of a certain video doesen't render it a religious site. THats just ignorant, next time put logic into what you say. This is actually an atheist site, and these 1000 videos you speak of are outnumbered by the million of other Christian ones.
And btw, " the only religion on Earth that begins with a false prophet" means you just said that Adam is a false prophet, because it all begins with him. Go repent, brother.
It is bad enough you will ignore all that I write,but to deny this is not a Muslim site,proves how sick Islam corrupts your mind,this is a Muslim site attacking Christianity with false beliefs written in the Quran
If there are a million Christian sites,most of them NEVER attack Islam,
Btw Adam was never a prophet just bec he named the animals,he was the First to disobey God,that means he never could be God's prophet,only Muh said Adam was a prophet bec only Muh was a false prophet
Deedat being a Muslim told many deceptions,actually at least one in every video but God is truthful and those who serve God should only be truthful and that excludes Deedat
Jesus said he was God,that is why he was sent to the cross,he said he would rise from the dead to prove it,to which he did and that is when Christianity came into existence and not before
No prophet was to come after Jesus except wolves wearing sheep's clothing and by their fruits you will know them
The Jews understood when Jesus said I and the Father are One that it meant Jesus was saying He is God but when you give this proof to Muslims they refute it,why?
Because the Koran forbids Muslims to contradict Muh otherwise other Muslims will slaughter them
and that prevents Muslims from seeing and accepting the proof that they pretended they wanted
As usual, Christians take verses out of context. Deedat addresses THIS verse at the end of the 12th part and beginning of 13th (did you even see the whole debate before spamming?)
Read the verses before and after! It's VERY obvious that the context is exactly the OPPOSITE. Even the pastor (who asked the question) didn't know the context!
Read the context u idiot. He was saying that their goal are one. In the hebrew language a person who is talking Gods words is referred to as "God". That doesnt mean that he is God.
I do a thorough review of the context in my two videos. Please watch them and feel free to rebut what I have stated.
The OCNTEXT makes it plainly clear that Jesus is asserting ONENESS with the FULL POWER of the Almighty and one in purpose is impossible to insert into the meaning.
Didn't understand what? My videos? Is there something in particular you didn't understand? I would be happy to explain further if you are sincerely wanting to understand what I have said.
The OCNTEXT makes it plainly clear that Jesus is asserting ONENESS with the FULL POWER of the Almighty and one in purpose is impossible to insert into the meaning.
The ONCText does not make it plainly clear that Jesus is asserting Oneness with the Full power of the Almighty and one in purpose rather He is asserting He is the Father,He is God,He is the Messiah,the Christ and He alone returns as God
For it is written when Jesus said I and the Father are One,the Jews picked up stones to stone Jesus for blasphemy,saying to Jesus, YOU a mere man claim to be God John 8:58 and if it was clear to them it should be clear to Muslims that Jesus is saying He is God
I think if you watch the videos you will see clearly what I mean. If you have, my apologies.
Jesus asserts that he is ONE with the Father in power. He has the power of the God because he is God.
He asserts that HE gives eternal life. No man EVER gives eternal life. God alone gives eternal life and Jesus asserts that it is by HIS POWER that he gives eternal life.
He asserts that his hand is one and the same with the Father's hand.
Perhaps we should take this discussion over to my vids?
I LOVE the OT. It is not discarded in the slightest. It is ILLUMINATED by the New Testament and becomes all the more richer. Jesus is the fulfillment of the OT.
we dont pretend, we only follow the truth..we belive in jesus and he is the mightyies messanger out of all. but we dont believe he is god because y god cant open is mouth.. y cant he say, i'm god......... i and my father are one'" what is the contex, go look at up... jesus died for our sins righttt, how stupiit.. if jesus died for our sins y dont you kill ppl.. jesus will forget you.. god was circumsized, how can god be circumsized,, yahhh dese are all in ur bible..... too many errors in bible.
You do not follow the truth for only God who is with you is the truth
You merely mention the name of Jesus but you know nothing of his teachings
God made your mouth and all the universe,and God can do anything he pleases,who are you to say what God can and cannot do when he said he would come as a man knowing he would die on the cross to which he did
Jesus died because people doubted him to be God and to doubt God's powers,presence,love for humanity is sin for sin is negative thinking
When you do not know the bible but follow the teachings of Muh who claimed the bible was falsified when he didn't know the languages of the Bible and he couldn't read to prove his own claims,then you are merely parroting someone who was deceived and who has deceived you
The Jews returned to Israel 60 years ago as prophecied by God 2800 years ago,that proves God keeps his promises that he made in the Bible to this day,therefore His words remain valid as He honours his words even if you do not
@jorsak search in youtube "ahmed deedat was jesus crossed" thx
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Jesus stated on NUMEROUS occasions that he came to die (Mark 8:31, 9:31, 10:33-34).
Jesus stated on NUMEROUS occasions HOW he would die (Matthew 20:19, 26:2) and
Jesus even told you exactly WHY he must die (Matthew 26:28).
Islam DENIES Jesus died on the cross making Jesus a LIAR.
Blessings in Christ Jesus,
Joe
jorsak 3 weeks ago
after so much proof christians are still in denial why??????????
nabizzle 9 months ago
@nabizzle Because all of Deedat's assertions have been demonstrated incorrect, inaccurate, and otherwise for centuries. There is not a single argument of Deedat's that stands.
What is realized is that should you ever study Jesus' words you will quickly discover that Jesus, from his own mouth, contradicts Islam numerous times. If Islam is true, then Jesus is a liar. Jesus, on numerous occasions, told you that he came to die (Mark 8:31, 9:31, 10:33-34) yet Islam denies this. 1 Example.
jorsak 9 months ago
sheikh ahmed deedat such an amazing man. mashallah alhumdulilah. soo down to earth and he is soo understanding.
moey78612 11 months ago
Allahu Akbar!
magico0315 1 year ago
Well done brother Dedat.
MrMythbuster1 1 year ago
As the Sheikh said "for non-Muslims, whether you want to know about Islam, or you want to FIGHT (argue) with Muslims, there is no better WEAPON than the Quran". There you go, be educated, as we have also educate ourselves with your book.
madeinmalaysia1980 1 year ago
My dear friend I don't want to convince you to accept Christianity but my appeal to Muslims is not to follow the book which orders the killing of the people because it can't be from god and the bible warns u that every other gospel other than the Bible should be accursed and I am begging you to speak with Stanley VILLAVINCENCIO from city of Cebu in Philippines who was 3 days clinically dead and after three days his family prepared for funeral and after 3 days he stood up healthy.
austriaheute 1 year ago
@austriaheute first the qor'an is not a gospel, second the word bible is never mentioned in the bible.
3rd thing is that the qor'an is a book of guidance and does not allow simply killing anyone...
allah gave us permision to wage war against those who declare war against us, those who opress us, those who attack us...allah gives us permision to fight against these ppl, and the sunnah tells us to kill only the soldiers, unlike the us that bombs everyone blindly...
khalilrabee 10 months ago
@austriaheute the qor'an is not a book of stories which u read and then go to sleep...the qor'an is a book of laws, what do u do in this case and what do u do in that case, a book of examples of the ppl before us, what they did in some cases, how they faced some challenges etc.
in the qor'an there is no such thing as "turn the other cheek" nor in christianity...chrstian scholars still debate what that means because in real life its not practical
khalilrabee 10 months ago
@austriaheute if muslim would have literally taken this verse and apply its rough meaning islam wouldnt have existed today, and also cristianity because christians didnt apply that verse literally...
its not practical...so allah regulates our lives, what do we do in times of peace, what do we do in times of war, its a legislation not a story book.
i hope i made it clear to u
khalilrabee 10 months ago
or many other stroys of incests, you would probably would say if your reasonable that those stories are added by historians , which means that the books has been changed by the people.... IF Allah Wills Allah will guide you ask for your creater to guide you And if Allah wills he surly will guide you to the striagth path, beacuse IF you can not admit the points rasied by the great Sheikh Ahmad Deedat, then my points will not even make a dent in your idealogy since you have closed it
mirzapen 2 years ago
no word of historian , us muslims believe in Tora, Zabor , Injeel, and the Quaran Majid. the first 3 books have not remained in their original inspiration , as it has seen numerous addation and deletion , the Quran Majid mircale of Allah has remined pure with out deletion and addition . Even today there is different version bibles, do not say that there is none because Kings James and Roman Catholic is different in the last 7 books, do you say that stroy of prophet Lut is true ?
mirzapen 2 years ago
Your suggested numerous addition and deletrion is simply untrue.
There is not one single theological belief called into question by any supposed addition or subtraction of any verse.
And your notion of the difference of teh King James and the RCC and the 7 books is uninformed my friend.
The books you speak of are referred to as the apocrypha and are not held to the same authority as the canonical books much as you view the Hadith.
Prophet Lut? If you refer to Lot (cont.)
jorsak 2 years ago
Abrahams nephew who was not a prophet , yes I believe tehre was such a historical character.
The information was not "Added" by historians but is a part of God's word.
And as a side note: It does not matter if there are 6.5 Billion Muslims in the world and I was the ONLY believe in Jesus, the number of people who believe something does not make it true.
The simple fact of the matter is that Islam contradicts the Old Testamanet and the New and the very words of the Messiah himself.
jorsak 2 years ago
SuperZorro92 9 months ago
@SuperZorro92
The law of God requires sacrifice for the atonement of sin (Leviticus 16:15-16, 17:11, Hebrews 9:22) Islam denies this
The prophets foretold the coming Messiah's role to BE that sacrifice (Isaiah 53:4-6,10,12, Psalm 22) Islam denies this
The Messiah told you with his own mouth that he came to die (Mark 8:31, 9:31, 10:33-34) and exactly HOW he would die (Matthew 20:19, 26:2) and exactly WHY he must die (Matthew 26:28).
Islam denies this ALL.
jorsak 9 months ago
SuperZorro92 9 months ago
@SuperZorro92 sorry. Deedat's tired arguments have been refuted for centuries. He will only debate people like Bock who have a weak mastery of the English language or Televangelists after his stunning defeat by a REAL scholar (Josh McDowell) in 1981 which taught him never to go down that road again.
Of course... now he is debating with Satan where he is currently residing.
jorsak 9 months ago
@jorsak are u a god or something? how do you know where he is residing?
JoakimAcosta 8 months ago
@JoakimAcosta I know that scripture is very clear that a denial of Jesus' death on the cross as a means of atonement for sin results in eternal separation from God.
Thus, I do not need to be God to know his outcome as I know for certain that Deedat denied Jesus' death on the cross as all Islam does.
jorsak 8 months ago
hmmm your arguments are baseless I really do not understand, historiacal documents with addition and deletion does not prove truth and accuracy, and espically with 5 major revisions, if I take your arguement then you should not really learn new testement becuase the old testment is older and more accurate is that what you suggest???????????????????? beaucse there is 1300 years difference between Prohphet Moses PBUH and Isa PBUH, no we are meant to follow inspration of Allah almighty not
mirzapen 2 years ago
"hmmm your arguments are baseless"
"The Qur'an did not come along for 600+ years after Jesus had left the Earth."
Baseless arguement or historical fact. It is rather evident no matter what conjectural line of argumentation you use.
Older does not make more accurate. But God's word does not contradict God's word and the Qur'an contradicts both the old and the new testament.
And you should repent for your belief that God has no power to protect his word.
jorsak 2 years ago
It is not contridiction to the law of almigthy God and belive me every muslim loves Jesus PBUH more than you as such they do not accuse him or say anything which is outside what has Allah revealed to us in the Qouran Majid,
What shall I say? when you see you can not argue in one topic you jump on the terrosit wagon , for your infromation read the Quran Karem so you would understand and do not fire free from your belly , all you do are trying to nothing but vain and Allah will reward you
mirzapen 2 years ago
I respect that you believe you love Jesus and I know you do not intentionally call him a liar. However, that is exactly what Islam makes Jesus out to be.
The simple fact is that Jesus repeatedly stated that he came to die (Mark 8:31, 9:31, 10:33-34,) even telling in advance HOW he would die (Matthew 20:19,26:2) and specifically WHY he must die (Matthew 26:28) and yet Islam tells him that he really didn't die.
You cannot say you love a man who you make out to be a liar.
(Cont.)
jorsak 2 years ago
The Qur'an did not come along for 600+ years after Jesus had left the Earth. The Bible warns us that Satan masquerades as an angel of Light )2 Corinthians 11:14) so it is not a surprise to know that a different message other than what Jesus taught was brought into being.
I would challenge you to study the words of Jesus for yourself and not what your Muslin scholars tell you Jesus said.
I have provided not one but numerous verses that were from the mouth of Jesus himself that
(Cont.)
jorsak 2 years ago
clearly contradict what the Qur'an teaches.
And you accuse me of being unable to defend a topic? My goodness! What topic? There is NO topic here that has been respectfully presented that I haven't utterly discussed at length and completely rebutted.
If you feel there is a topic that I have been unable to answer, by all means pose it.
You say I have jumped on the terrorist band wagon? BAND WAGON???
Muslims are unwilling to admit that they have a problem in their own religion. (Cont.)
jorsak 2 years ago
with fanatical people calling on the name of Allah and blowing up trains, planes, buses, night clubs, etc. Study after study shows that there is a 7-13% population of Islam that believes killing innocents in the name of Allah is perfectly acceptable.
That is not a bandwagon. That is a sad fact of reality and it disgusts me that no Muslim here is willing to admit it. Simply stating that Muslim terrorists are not Muslims is a ridiculous argument as that entire group would disagree (Cont.)
jorsak 2 years ago
with you.
In conclusion, Islam came AFTER Christianity by 600+ years and teaches a message that completely contradicts the words of Jesus himself. I cannot ever in good conscience follow or even have a desire to study something with the intent to learn more about God when it is immediately in contradiction to God's word.
And as I said, if there is a question you think I can't answer, then pose it. I have answered all questions posed here.
Salaam,
Joe
jorsak 2 years ago
And what do you call your country which killed millions of innocents look at your bloody history
1.Veitnam
2.Japan
3.Red indians
4.South americans
5.Cuba
6.Iraq
7.Sudan
and whats hidden and unknown are more Jorsak stop calling us muslims terrorists without looking at your history blowing up trains and clubs.. what do you call 9/11 then a pure inside job a false flag open your mouth for that
Omgtheykilledme 2 years ago
I do not Know why you can not understand the point, 1,8 billion muslim and still counting will all testify that in the Quran Majid there is no such thing as terrorism that is why i am saying read it then come up with arguement, yeah sure they are muslims. Now you have seen prof of it infront of your eyes islam is the fastest growing religon in USA and Europe espically after 9 11 but people are guided by Allah and you can not twist truth
mirzapen 2 years ago
If they had done what have you done to not read it the Glorius Quran, then suraly we should have seen a drop in the growth of islam past 9 11. and then you make stuff it is really my broher in humanity it is really wrong please as I told you read it ,->come argue, when you debat a topic even in in a primitive way you have to have the information about it to debat , why your scared to to read it ,I am sure you do read many other books
mirzapen 2 years ago
Since you study these manay history books and any other books I assume for your comments, maybe go read Quran not to convert but to just may beto refut us , but if you do not wanting to do it you have some other hidden secret,
mirzapen 2 years ago
There are myriads of religions that violate the law of God, the prophets, and the Messiah's teachings. I do not have the time or inclination to study them to know them better.
Islam teaches that Yeshua (Jesus) did not die on the cross which is in direct contradiction to the Law of God, the Prophets of God, and the Messiah himself.
I do not need to study your faith more to know that that is a critical contradiction and I have discussed it at length.
There is no HIDDEN secret.
(cont.)
jorsak 2 years ago
ISLAM has brought it's attack on Christianity and not the other way around.
The Qur'an is written as a polemic (argument against) Christianity.
Read Surah 4:156-159.
There is NO HIDDEN SECRET that I believe Islam clearly contradicts the word of God and I post here to demonstarte that point and to answer the numerous supposed contradictions that are brought up.
That is my clearly asserted reason for being here my friend. No secrets at all.
Salaam,
Joe
jorsak 2 years ago
I do not want to discuss anything without as such you do not have inclination as you said to be guided by Allah (God) creater of all for your information look at this video ,
Dr. Jerald Dirks: (1 of 8) Early Christians viewed Jesus as a human prophet, not as God. and it rebute your asseration of that he was crucified,
mirzapen 2 years ago
And now please do not corrupt these conversation with these sorts of allegations if your a fair and just person you qoute the attrosites comitted by both sides and the shear size of each. everyone knows how many inoccent americans dies becuse of the gun voilence have you every heard that persons who have shoted these innocent people being labled as either christian or jew noooo, but god forbid if a muslim who is in name muslim but not by practice he will be a lable for the whole religion
mirzapen 2 years ago
You keep missing the HUGE point that the people that die from gun violence aren't running around saying I'm killing you in the name of Jesus.
NO CHRISTIAN is climbing on to populated buses, trains, planes, etc and saying JESUS RULES and blowing themselves up.
It isn't happening and yet that is EXACTLY what is occuring in Islam.
And if you have looked at these pages with any clarity you would see that I have discussed these videos at length without discussing this topic.
jorsak 2 years ago
look this was not the topic but I want to clearify these points to you what histroy are you studying that you missing the 10 housand afghans which dies in the itail start of the 2001 war which us invaded afghanistan , and what happens when a bombs drops on to civilian a sorry does it for you guys, what church did Georg Bush belong too, when you guys do these sort of stuff you do not say it a christain man today ordered to kill these many muslims why not being fair .
mirzapen 2 years ago
The problem with this argument my friend is that #1. George Bush did not attack. AMERICA responded to an attack on America.
And America is not more "Christian" than it is Islamic or Buddhist.
Thousands of innocent men, women, and children died in the buildings on 9/11 of all races, nationalities, and religions.
The attack on Afghanistan was not an attack of a Christian against a Muslim.
Salaam,
Joe
jorsak 2 years ago
#1. The USA is NOT a Christian nation ran as a Christian religion ruled nation unlike the Islam controlled states of Iran and Afghanistan before the war.
George Bush did not order any attack as a"Christian." He ordered it as the president of the USA which has NOTHING to do with him being a Christian, Budhist, or anything else.
#2. It is absolutely ridiculous to attempt an argument as the above when those who attack trains, plains, buses, nightclubs, etc., are doing
(Cont.)
jorsak 2 years ago
it SPECIFICALLY in the name of ALLAH. You do not see ANY part of the US government standing around saying "In the name of Jesus we attack you."
It is a ridiculous comparison.
jorsak 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
This old fart should restrict his discussions to MO
& Korand. When he strays to other religion, he talking like an Idiot.
dur80lei82lee86 2 years ago
When he Strays...lol. Pathetic attempt to distract people from Ahmed Deedats skill in destroying his so called counterparts. Check on Youtube, whether it was Sharrosh, Swaggart Rook, etc all got destroyed. Go and do youself a favour, poke your eyes out and stick something in your ears becuase your behaving Blind, Death and stupid.
samuelmiah 2 years ago 7
Not true ... Bible does prophecise about Muhammed. there are a dozen referance to him.
If you are looking for names... then please note that NOT A SINGLE PROPHECY FOR JESUS IS THERE in OT that calls him out by name. NOT ONE. Thats not a how Bible works....
Genesis 49-10 is about Muhammed.
letmesee74 2 years ago
LMS74,
Hello my friend! I hope all is well with you and yours.
Gen 49:10 cannot be about Mohamed as scripture is perfectly clear that Shiloh MUST be from the family line of David. (Isaiah 11:10)
Additionally, there is NO place in scripture that refers to Mohamed. If you'd like to give me your favorite examples, I will be happy to demonstrate how they are not speaking of Mohamed.
Salaam,
Joe
jorsak 2 years ago
we all know what this line means:
Sceptre will not depart from judah.
when the line becomes
Sceptre will not depart from judah UNTIL....
it does not take a rocket scientist to know the meaning has been changed.
unfortunately you are still refusing to accept this.
genesis 49-10 is a non jewish person and no one else. It can not be more clearer than this.
i gave response to ISAIAH 11 in detail in video 2.
There are over a dozen refernaces to Muahmmed in the Bible
letmesee74 2 years ago
isaiah 60-7 IS ONLY FULFILLED BY ISLAM.
The son of a man in Daniel's vision IS NOT Jesus but Muhammed.
ARE YOU THAT PROPHET....? remember the qustion asked to John.
Muhammed is the corner stone
he is the spirit of truth and the prophet like Moses
He is the holy one from Paran the guidance of God from Teman.
I could go on and on here.....
The above is not for JESUS but Muhammed. God bless them both.
letmesee74 2 years ago
I'm sorry, it is impossible for Mohamed to fulfill the role of the paraclete promised by Jesus.
It is impossible for Mohamed to be Shiloh since Shiloh is the root of Jesse (a jew).
I could also go on and on... but can we do that one ONE video instead of several?
Salaam,
Joe
jorsak 2 years ago
I THINK I ASNWERE BOTH YOUR POINTS WITH REGARD TO SHILOH AND JESSE IN VIEDO 9.
Muhammed is the shiloh, he is the corner stone and he is the paraclete. God bless him.
We can discuss in vedeo 3
peace
letmesee74 2 years ago
Dear jorask,
I hope you keep your search, I am sure that one day you will find the right patch and you will revert.
scor77pion 2 years ago
Thank you for the kind words. I have come to my faith in Jesus not by accident nor as a result of birth but by many long long hours of study and close examination of scripture and history.
Salaam,
Joe
jorsak 2 years ago
HI jorsak your answer from previous videos are sometimes shows you the very an inteligent missionaries where I get in my house. When you guys ask questions most muslims will answer you honestly but when muslims asks you a challenging questions you talk about september 11. Ok it happened and you saying hat muslims did , fair point. now who was Hitler wasnot he a christian , did not he kill 4 millions Jews, did not the american in ww2 killed about 2k japaness , now who is the hypocrate
mirzapen 2 years ago
I cannot answer for any other human being or what their motivations are.
Feel free to pose any question to me and I will answer it.
jorsak 2 years ago
PS. Hitler was not a Christian and expressed and open disgust of Christianity. He tried to play Christian early in the war because he did not want to make an enemy of the church.
His loathing of the church is well documented.
Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda, noted:
"The Fuhrer is deeply religous, though completely anti-Christian. He views Christianity as a symptom of decay."
In fact, it has been well documented that Hitler favored Islam and here is a quote.
(Cont.)
jorsak 2 years ago
"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"
(Adolf Hitler, quoted by Albert Speer, p. 96, Inside the Third Reich.)
Salaam,
Joe
jorsak 2 years ago
I've addressed this assertion several times now. Can we agree to argue through the points on one video instead of several? i think the last time was on video 3.
Additionally, there's not one single reference to Mohamed in the Bible.
jorsak 2 years ago
Family line of David? Ishmael was he not in the family line of David? Also, who do you think this prophecy relates to?
samuelmiah 2 years ago
Ishmael is a descendant of Abraham, not of David. And we do not have to wonder who the prophecy is attributed to. Seventeen verses in the New Testament describe Jesus as the "son of David." 2 Samuel 7:14-16. David's descendants would be on the thrown forever.
Matthew 1 gives the genealogical proof that Jesus, in His humanity, was a direct descendant of Abraham and David through Joseph, Jesus' legal father.
jorsak 2 years ago
"I do know about Islam"
Which is true of most Christians, at least in America. This is why what you say about Islam has no substance.
NeoTheo2 3 years ago
In banks when a new teller is hired and trained that teller never works with counterfeit money. They ONLY train with real money. The reason is that when the come in contact with a counterfeit it will stick out like a sore thumb. Much the same with spiritual truth. When you become so familiar with the word of God the counterfeit sticks out like a sore thumb.
I study the Bible for that reason.
jorsak 3 years ago
"I study the Bible for that reason."
And what might that reason be?
Court741 3 years ago
Because it is the truth.
jorsak 3 years ago
"Which is true of most Christians, at least in America"
That is so laughable as to be hysterical. Hell Christians don't even know about their own religion let alone someone else's.
Court741 3 years ago 2
"Hell Christians don't even know about their own religion"
False.
jorsak 3 years ago
jeus is a great prophet:) <<< how much better isn't??? if jeus is god then god is not great
:(
sucambo 3 years ago
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False.
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wooow im naked right now!
uhh wow this video has 2 be one of the Silliest and sexiest vids online. just like me! lw
Guezt2k 3 years ago
Ahmed Deedat is funny. I laughed abut half the time he was speaking and I was being educated the other half.
May he get reward for his efforts, Ameen.
nv1 3 years ago 18
Read the New Testament of the Bible of the words said by Yeshua (JESUS):
Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I came to replace the Torah and the teachings of the prophets; I did not come to destroy them, but rather to fulfill them."
Matthew 15:24 "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
Luke 18:19 "Why do you call me good? There are none good but God."
John 6:38 "For I came down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him that sent me".
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
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John 8:58 "I am telling you the truth, before Abraham was born, 'I Am'."
John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."
John 11:25-26 "I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die."
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John 14:6 "I am the truth, the way, and the life: no one comes to the Father, but by me."
John 17:5 "And now, O Father, give me glory in thy presence, the same glory I had with thee before the world was made."
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Isaiah 7:14 and Isaiah 9:6 speaks about the birth of the Messiah. Immanuel from Isaiah 7:14 means "God with us", God came to earth from heaven and incarnated and manifested in the flesh in the person of Yeshua the Messiah. Yeshua HaMashiach is Immanuel meaning Yeshua HaMashiach is The Incarnation of Yahweh.
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Yeshua HaMashiach was not the first appearance of God in the flesh. It is ridiculous, hypocrisy and insane if you say and think that you can do anything that God can't do. God can do anything according to his will, he can interact with his creation and above all of that God appeared and manifested himself in the flesh many times in the Tanakh (see Genesis 3:8, Genesis 18:1-14, Genesis 32:24-30, Exodus 24:9-11, Joshua 5:13-15, Judges 13:22, Proverbs 30:4).
knightsofstjoan2004 3 years ago
Christianity exists as a testimony to the Messiah,it is a faith that began only after Jesus claimed he was God,only after Jesus was sent to the cross where died on the cross as proven by the Roman soldier who stabbed Jesus to ensure he was dead,then Jesus rose from the dead as he said he would,that is when Christianity came into existence,not before
Christianity is a faith that trusts and has faith in God who said he would come as a man
therefore No prophet was to come after Jesus
BonjourNuit26 3 years ago
Bonjour, you havent told me your church denomination? Please tell me. I must tell you, you are very consistent in pushing down the Jesus as God through the others throat, no matter how un successful you are in it, but you have great patience, thats good. Keep it up.
architectdawood 3 years ago
hei Bonjour.
first best greetig peace be upen u,second i asked god to guid u.
didn,t u read the Bible,just u heard and follow it,that is why u said no prophet after jesus can u read plsss John 1:20-25
who is that prophet? ISAIAH 29:12 WHO IS THIS CANNOT READ OTHER THAN MUHAMMAD PBUH? DET. 18:18 who is that? please readthe BIBLE and u can find many verse which talk about muhammed,and also read the quran
gurays7 3 years ago
I have read both the Bible and the Koran and the Bible never said Muhammad would come instead it proved by God's own choice of Isaac over Ishmael that Muhammad never could be a prophet of God and I have read the Koran and saw its violence, it threats, its briberies, its robbery of other prophets but nothing in it that came from God
God is not a liar and God is not forgetful, he would never choose a man like Muhammad who married a child, who had sex with one of his daughters
BonjourNuit91 3 years ago
Muhammad claimed in sura 61:6 that Jesus announced the coming of an apostle the ahmad to whom Muhammad claimed was himself but Jesus never said an apostle would come rather Jesus said the Holy Spirit who lives in all people on earth would come and that instantly proves Muhammad was a false prophet
Most people until 100 years ago could not read, as reading was a skill of the elite and Deut 18:18 was taken by Jesus in John 5:46 and John 1:45 in which Philip said we found the one Moses wrote about
BonjourNuit91 3 years ago
Did u read John properly. It sais in black in white, " Finally they said to him:
tell us who you are, so that we can give some answer to those who sent us. What do you have to say for yourself?"
He (John the baptist) said, qouting the prophet Isiah, " I am
'a voice in the desert, crying out:
Make way the way of the LORD!"
John the baptist was talking about Jesus who is LORD. He is not talking about mohammed because he also said, " He will baptize you with FIRE and the HOLY SPIRIT
Chaldean4life91 2 years ago
In Isiah. It sais, "read this", he replies, " I cannot it is sealed", When it is handed to the one who cannot read, with the request "read this" he replies, " I cannot read." But you have to keep reading. It also goes to say,
The Lord said: Since this people draws near with words only and honors me with their lips alone, though their hearts are far from me. This passage means not mohammed but Jerusalem, who in her blindness refuse to believe in Gods revelation that she will be saved.
Chaldean4life91 2 years ago 3
Also DET. That prophet is not mohammed but in turn Jesus. You may say then why do we christians call him God. Well true Jesus is God but he is also the fullfiller of the scriptures meaning he is THE GREAT PROPHET in whom the prophetic office finds its fulfillment and completion, this passage was understood in a special messianic sense both by the jews and by the Apostles. Please read the Bible properly and don't assume things before you know them. I hope you find the true way. I will pray for u.
Chaldean4life91 2 years ago 2
Muhammad claimed he was announced to come by Jesus as the Ahmad which is the Comforter or Holy Spirit of truth which means Muhammad took his belief from John 16-12 without the ability to realize in John 14:16-17 that the Holy Spirit of truth is with all people and lives in all people
Muh claimed to be God and he didn't know it,
Jesus is God,he said so many times and he went to the cross and rose from the dead to prove it,that is when Christianity came into existence and not before
BonjourNuit26 3 years ago
Having fun?
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
P.S. The "Ahmad" does not mean Comforter or Holy Spirit, it is another name for Muhammed meaning praise worthy, learn some Arabic before critizizing it.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
That Muhammad said Jesus announced the coming of the Ahmad means Muh involved Jesus
The Comforter or Holy Spirit of Truth is God it is not another name for Muhammad
It does not matter if the meaning of comforter was altered to become praise worthy,Muh still involved Jesus's teachings
and Jesus was not talking about Muh but about how God is with all people on earth which proves Muh was not a prophet of God
I don't need to learn Arabic to know that
BonjourNuit26 3 years ago
Deedat being a devoted Muslim,was taught Jesus didn't die on the cross,that Jesus was only a prophet in which the Quran teaches nothing Jesus taught instead the Quran teaches the opposite of everything Jesus taught,then it is no wonder Muslims cannot comprehend that Jesus is in them and in all people on earth because Jesus said he was God and he proved it just as he will prove it when he returns as God
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
Paul is a false Prophet.
The Bible is corrupted.
Jesus is not God.
Muhammed was a true prophet of God.
And Bonjournuit, is a biased religious fanatic.
Salut, because I have a life outside of youtube.
LOL
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Paul is not a prophet,he was a devout Jew who witnessed the Resurrected Jesus for he had to see to believe
The Bible contains your only blessing you will receive and it contains God's promises and it contains proof Muhammad was a false prophet
You have been deceived and you cannot believe it so wait until judgement day,until then be a good Muslim and trust in God's goodness,despite Muhammad added Satan before God
Good I am glad you have a life outside of youtube
BonjourNuit26 3 years ago
Come to think of it, you diden't do much replying either. You just re wrote what you said earlier which was feeble.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Either way, Im going to enjoy the rest of my vacation in the Bahamas and not tangling my self with your non sense.
Good day, good week, good month, good year, i'm sick of the name "BonjourNuite26" since it's ignorant and unknowledged about Islam. You probably get your "corrupt info," corrupt sites,I suggest you do the investigating.
Even though this word is hollow to you, Peace, I also get peace from GOD, you dont get it from Jesus bec. he is not God.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Here you are on a Muslim site that pretends to ask the question,is Jesus God when Deedat knew dam well Muhammad claimed Jesus was only a prophet like himself when Muh was the opposite of Jesus
Muh taught hatred,fear and violence
You and every Muslim can refute the facts all you want but you cannot change the fact that Jesus is God who is with you and every Muslim on earth and the day you learn that fact is the day you learn Muhammad was totally deceived and he deceived his followers
BonjourNuit26 3 years ago
Muslims cannot doubt what Muhammad said because Muh said people who accept Islam are wise but those who do not are evil
What I write is repeative and feeble because you totally disregard that I have the right to stand up for my religion against those who have no right to offend it
I do know about Islam,it is not just a religion but the only religion that teaches to hate the non believer,it is the only religion that contradicts God as it is the only religion that begins with a false prophet
BonjourNuit26 3 years ago
Muh is the only one who ever claimed he was praise worthy and who allowed his followers to praise him when only God deserves our praise,for creating the universe,for creating life on earth and for creating us with the ability to perceive God's own presence not Muhammad who married a 6 year old child,who took his adopted son's wife,and who had sex with one of his daughters
Muh is the only one who praises himself when he taught falsehoods that made Islam an oppressive religion contradicting God
BonjourNuit26 3 years ago
Muh involved Jesus,when Muh claimed Jesus announced the coming of the apostle,the Ahmad to which Muh claimed he was the Ahmad when the Ahmad is God only,John 14:16-17
proving by Muh's own mouth that Muh was never God's prophet
For Jesus never announced that another apostle would come after him,one who would contradict everything Jesus taught and who would say the Bible of both the Jews and Christians were falsified when Muh didn't know the languages of the Bible
BonjourNuit26 3 years ago
Save it for Judgement Day, I have no intention of argueing with a wanderer...
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Jesus claimed he was God,many times and many ways,he went to the cross for claiming he was God and he rose from the dead to prove it,and only then did Christianity come into existence and not before,even the apostle John said in John 2:22 after Jesus was raised from the dead,then his disciples believed the words Jesus had spoken(not before!)
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
Who ever said im Muslim? And where are my points weak? Show me the flaw oh smart one.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
That you claimed Adam was a prophet proves you are a Muslim,for only Muhammad claimed Adam was a prophet,never God and no other religion.
Read properly because I said Adam was never a prophet because he was the first to disobey God and Muhammad was never a true prophet because he contradicted God for God chose Isaac not Ishmael to carry the prophetic line and Muhammad claimed he descended from Ishmael which contradicts God.
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
Show me where God chose Isaac. I'd like to see it.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Genesis 17:18-21
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
Send me the whole verses in a message, i'm on vacation I don't have my Bible with me. We'll discuss is there.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Gen.17:18-21 your wife Sarah will bear you a son and you will call him Isaac,I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him, as for Ishmael I will surely bless him but my covenant I will establish with Isaac
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
That doesen't need to mean that he was "singularly chosen" for prophethood, what is the covenant that is spoken about, it's merely your own interpreation. I also heard Doctor Zakar Naik speaking about this, I could give you a link if you want.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Muh claimed he descended from Ishmael,he also claimed Ishmael was a prophet but God himself said Ishmael was a wild donkey of a man always fighting with his brothers
The point is only Jews could be true prophets
here at this site speaks Deedat saying Jesus isn't God because Muh said Jesus wasn't God yet Jesus did say and prove He is God
So the covenant that is everlasting means the Jews alone carried God's promises and prophecies for our world proof is their return to Israel 60 years ago
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
My answer is still the same....thats only your interpretation. If thats what your mind is forced to beleive, then so be it.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
The Bible has thousands of teachings,but the Holy Spirit guided me straight to that passage in Genesis 17:18-20
It is the same with Muhammad saying Jesus is the Christ and the Messiah yet never understanding both the Christ and the Messiah mean the same thing,it means Jesus is God
So the same when God chose Abraham's second son to carry the convenant,that means no prophets would come out of Ishmael
you think it is only my interpretation when it is evidence Muhammad was a false prophet
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
What a religious fanatic you are. " The Holy Spirit guided me"?
Muhammed PBUH never said Jesus was the Christ, he said
He was the Masheeh, arabic for Messiah. Never is the word Christ use. Do you know pots and pans, pillars, were called Messiashs, in the Bible, does that mean that they are God's too? I can give references.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
I'm afraid that you're blinded to the truth, I truly feel sorry for you because you are almost neglecting everything I say. Your running in circles. I'l pray for you though.
Peace.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
At one site of Naik he said why would God come as a man,no he didn't
As if Christianity never existed as if Christians didn't have proof to their beliefs
Then at another Naik site,he said I and the Father are one,does not means the same identity but one in purpose when Naik had to have taken the line I and the Father are one in which it is stated,the Jews wanted to stone Jesus for blasphemy saying,you a mere man claim to be God
Yet Naik pretended he never saw or heard that very passage
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
No I am not blinded to the truth because God is the truth who is with all people as the Holy Spirit,which you just said I was fanatic
Don't feel sorry for me,feel sorry for yourself and all Muslims beginning with Muhammad
The only you and I will ever agree on is that Steak is good
Thanks for praying for me,I will pray for you too and your peace is like Islam,sounds good but it is hollow
Good Night
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
No friend, it is not hollow, it is strong, and it is keeping alive 1.8 billion people, ( 235% growing ), so sir, have a good day, and Ramadan is coming up and im quite excited!
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
No prophet was to come after Jesus,and you would say that Christianity is a false religion then that means you don't believe in Judgment or in hell fire
If Christianity is false and Muhammad claimed he was fortold to come by Jesus as the ahmad or comforter that would prove instantly what I was saying that he was false because the comforter or holy spirit of truth is how Jesus is in all people on earth
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
" as the Ahmad or comforter" Congratulations, you have just showed everyone your ignorance. Ahmad is a name not a title, it just shows your knowledge of the Arabic language, and the Quran, the one youve been critizising so earnestly. Brothers , Sisters, don't waste your time with him, he just runs around in circles re writing everything he says. Seriously, I don't have time. I'm not replying anymore, but I wish you peace...
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Muhammad said Jesus announced the coming of an apostle,the Ahmad to which Muhammad claimed he was but the Ahmad or Comforter or Holy Spirit of truth is God and God only,Jesus wasn't sending someone 500 years after him,he was sending to his disciples days after he rose from the dead,awareness of his,own omnipresence for Jesus is God.
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
Truly being guided by the Holy Spirit is how all people are quided by God,except they do not know it,oh Deedat said he believed in Jesus as the Christ!
Yes false gods came in many forms,but the biggest today is satan added before God by Muhammad
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
I like to take the Qurans words over Deedat's thank you very much. Quran never uses the word Christ, it says "maseeh" which is Arabic for Messiah. And I dont even understand your second comment so I can't really reply. John 10:30 has been refuted a billion times, if thats what your asking. Sorry but Christianity is a false religion and Jesus isn't God, and ocne more, Paul where you get all of your doctrine from is a false prophet. If you dont mind, you can stop spamming messages to me now. Peace
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Here you are at Deedat's site in which he is offering you his speculations on the important matter of Jesus being God,in which Deedat's premise is that the whole Bible is falsified by Muh who only claimed that but he couldn't prove his claim because he couldn't read his own language and he didn't know that the languages of the Bible that was in Hebrew,Greek and Latin.
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
What?!?!? What is your point here, its as if your a bot or something. Just, enough, seriously I don't have time for this. It's as if you say the same thing. Jeez.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Yes,1 billion Muslims are strong in their faith,for they have only good intensions of serving God but they have been deceived and more and more join them
When Ramadan comes,enjoy your fast
Like I said we will only agree that steak is good,and we will agree on nothing else
Good Night
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
There you go , you made a reply without trying to Bash Islam. Congratulations, but yes I love Ramadan, and I love fasting as an act of God for it teaches me patience and love for the poor. And btw, its Good Morning here.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
John 10:30 states the man answered that is remarkable.You don't know where he comes from yet he opened my eyes
You merely quoted a passage with no knowledge of it,like Deedat and Naik
That passage was never refuted a once
Only Islam is a false religion because Jesus is God and no prophet but wolves in sheep's clothing came after him whose fruits you would know him
Take away everything Paul ever wrote in jail as he awaited his execution,and you will see loud and clear Jesus is God
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
You said to me, to stop spamming messages,I do not spam,I read your messages that you have sent to me and I feel obliged to respond to them so if you don't want me to write you,then don't write to me,is that plain and simple for you?
Don't say peace,it is too phony to me
When Muslims think they are big experts on Christianity because they reject everything in it,yet they fail to see only Muhammad was the world's only false prophet and how deceived it that
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
I log into my hotmail and I see about 20 notifications of message, so my question is, do you, sir, have a life? If peace is not valid to you then I don't know what it is. If Muhammed was the worlds only false prophet, what about Gandi, did you idolize him as a God too? Go ahead and worship anything that can do miracles as God, in the end, you'll see whos right, and whos wrong. Btw, Jesus himself said in the Hebrew tongue " Shalom Alaikom" Which is the equivalent of Salam Wa Alakiom.
Peace.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
You had 20 notifications because I took my time to answer your responses that you made to my comments
Then don't write me
post your messages at the bottom box
Gandi was not prophet,nor did he claim to be,nor did he invent a religion contradicting God's compassion and Gandi never promoted hatred against the non believer as did Muh
It is the end and I do see who is right and wrong concerning God
Jesus's presence gives true peace,Muslims merely utter the words peace and those words are hollow
BonjourNuit26 3 years ago
And the words peace work, It is the end and I do see who is right and wrong concerning God
Then I tell you now that you are wrong, your feeble words mean nothing to me because you dont prove them,
So go ahead and just riddle me with conclusions, they won't help you, they wont help me.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Yes you heard Naik but did you hear Deedat and Naik lie,I have in every video I watched of them,Naik said Christians worshipped the apostles as gods but then Muh said Christians worshiped Mary as a god,and Deedat tried to say Muhammad was the Holy Spirit of truth because the he gender was mentioned 7 or 8 times
Naik was a follower of Deedat and both lied when God who is the truth never requires liars to teach about God
I don't want the link to Naik,I probably have it anyway
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
Naik wasen't a follower of Deedat, he was inspired by him. I don't know what you mean by follower, though. Deedat never said that Cathlics worship Mary, pbuh, as a goddes, he said they treat her like one when they pray to her as an idol ( In Islam we call this shirk )
"Holy Spirit of truth because the he gender was mentioned 7 or 8 times"
Actually, Deedat pointed this out to make it obvious that the reference was to a male....
I'd like to see where Deedat accused C. of worshipmg apostl
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Before Jesus was sent to the cross,he said he gave eternal life to us,that He and the Father are one,to which the Jews picked up stones to stone Jesus,saying you a mere man claim to be God.John 8-58
After Jesus rose from the dead,he told his disciples to baptise people in all nations, for Jesus is with us always and all power and authority in both Heaven and Earth are his
It is His world and he is reclaiming it from the lies of Satan
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
As this is a Muslim site and as no prophet was to come after the Messiah,only the Messiah is to return and as not one Muslim knows the Messiah and Christ means Jesus is God who went to cross,rose from the dead, to continue teaching He is in all people on earth and when the world learns that truth,it will be heaven on earth
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
Wow your copy and pasting as if it was an automated message. If your going to do that, atleast make it sound convincing. Jes wasen't God.
That is the type of arguement you are giving, are you unfit to prove that with logic, because I cann tell you right now all that copy and pasting is going to waste because you arent convincing anyone.
And btw, this isn't a muslim site.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
I do not copy and paste,I go through the long procedure of re-writing each message and best of all,I do not write to Muslims who are next to brain dead rather I write for the poor unsuspecting victims that have googled and found their way here to this spider trap of deceptions.
As most Westerners do not know either the Bible nor the Quran,I inform them Islam is not from God,there is substantial proof Muhammad was a false prophet and most of all Jesus is God who is with all people on earth.
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
Actually, I am 200% sure you copy and paste, because they are 500% identical. I doubt that actully happend by coincidence. And please show me that proof, I would like to see it. Otherwise, your spew won't convince anyone unless you attach logic to it. OTHERWISE, I feel sorry for you because your wasting time doing this while I can assure you have convereted NONE.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Well then you are 200% percent wrong because I re-write them every time
When all of what Muh said were mere claims,when Muh proved not one thing he said,nor could he,he demanded you ask for proof,but he failed to tell you what to do, when proof is given,for all the Quran, teaches those who doubt Muh are evil and no Muslim dares to contradict Muh
I seek not to convert,I seek merely to inform those who are non Muslim as for Muslims,they must wait until Judgment day to learn the truth
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
Truly, I suggest you go to your local colledge and take a class in theology or philosophy, your points are weak, and you just spew conclusions out. I read your posts and laugh inside, i'l reply when you can give me an ACTUAL arguement. Otherwise, good day.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Perhaps to you my points are weak,because I write back in response to your own weak points
Laugh inside and laugh when it is judgment day,when you learn Muhammad was deceived by Satan and Muh deceived all his followers
because Jesus will say to him, I never knew you away you evil doer,and all Muslims will mourn and grieve for having been decieved
but I will not laugh then and I do not laugh now
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
"Jesus will say to him, I never knew you away you evil doer" actually Jesus will say this to the Christians, for worshipping as a God, give me the context of this and il gladly show you.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Actually , Nuit, Paul was a false prophet who concactud his own beleif that Jesus was God, which he derived from Roman Paganism. He has many contradictions in his writings and has rarely been shown to be truthful. The Jesus Paul preaches is not the true Jesus of God that Muhammed did.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Look up towards the screen, Deedat is a Muslim,he has over 1000 youtube sites alone,in which Naliakbar hosts.
It is not possible to convince Muslims of any truth for they must believe in the lies they were taught until judgment day
Therefore it is not a waste of my time,because I might save one person from joining the only religion on earth that begins with a false prophet who never served God but only served Satan.
For Islam teaches hatred and oppression
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
The quantity of a certain video doesen't render it a religious site. THats just ignorant, next time put logic into what you say. This is actually an atheist site, and these 1000 videos you speak of are outnumbered by the million of other Christian ones.
And btw, " the only religion on Earth that begins with a false prophet" means you just said that Adam is a false prophet, because it all begins with him. Go repent, brother.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
It is bad enough you will ignore all that I write,but to deny this is not a Muslim site,proves how sick Islam corrupts your mind,this is a Muslim site attacking Christianity with false beliefs written in the Quran
If there are a million Christian sites,most of them NEVER attack Islam,
Btw Adam was never a prophet just bec he named the animals,he was the First to disobey God,that means he never could be God's prophet,only Muh said Adam was a prophet bec only Muh was a false prophet
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
Adam was a prophet bec only Muh was a false prophet
WHAT?!?!?
That makes no sense, you proved nothing there! I can't beleive im even bothering with you, it feels as if im talking to a two year old.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Deedat being a Muslim told many deceptions,actually at least one in every video but God is truthful and those who serve God should only be truthful and that excludes Deedat
Jesus said he was God,that is why he was sent to the cross,he said he would rise from the dead to prove it,to which he did and that is when Christianity came into existence and not before
No prophet was to come after Jesus except wolves wearing sheep's clothing and by their fruits you will know them
BonjourNuit12 3 years ago
Jesus said he was/is God when he said I and the Father are one,for the Jews picked up rocks to stone Jesus for claiming to be God
John 10:33
The Jews understood when Jesus said I and the Father are One that it meant Jesus was saying He is God but when you give this proof to Muslims they refute it,why?
Because the Koran forbids Muslims to contradict Muh otherwise other Muslims will slaughter them
and that prevents Muslims from seeing and accepting the proof that they pretended they wanted
BonjourNuit9 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
As usual, Christians take verses out of context. Deedat addresses THIS verse at the end of the 12th part and beginning of 13th (did you even see the whole debate before spamming?)
Read the verses before and after! It's VERY obvious that the context is exactly the OPPOSITE. Even the pastor (who asked the question) didn't know the context!
Kottkottktok 3 years ago 2
Read the context u idiot. He was saying that their goal are one. In the hebrew language a person who is talking Gods words is referred to as "God". That doesnt mean that he is God.
Read from John 10:23 to 10:35
pakifighter 3 years ago
pakifight read the context you idiot,Muhammad was a false prophet and Jesus is God
BonjourNuit12 3 years ago
I do a thorough review of the context in my two videos. Please watch them and feel free to rebut what I have stated.
The OCNTEXT makes it plainly clear that Jesus is asserting ONENESS with the FULL POWER of the Almighty and one in purpose is impossible to insert into the meaning.
jorsak 3 years ago
Wow I diden't understand a word you just said, simplify please, not all of us are Bible scholars.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
Didn't understand what? My videos? Is there something in particular you didn't understand? I would be happy to explain further if you are sincerely wanting to understand what I have said.
jorsak 3 years ago
The OCNTEXT makes it plainly clear that Jesus is asserting ONENESS with the FULL POWER of the Almighty and one in purpose is impossible to insert into the meaning.
This, what does this mean, you lost me.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago
The ONCText does not make it plainly clear that Jesus is asserting Oneness with the Full power of the Almighty and one in purpose rather He is asserting He is the Father,He is God,He is the Messiah,the Christ and He alone returns as God
For it is written when Jesus said I and the Father are One,the Jews picked up stones to stone Jesus for blasphemy,saying to Jesus, YOU a mere man claim to be God John 8:58 and if it was clear to them it should be clear to Muslims that Jesus is saying He is God
BonjourNuit25 3 years ago
I think if you watch the videos you will see clearly what I mean. If you have, my apologies.
Jesus asserts that he is ONE with the Father in power. He has the power of the God because he is God.
He asserts that HE gives eternal life. No man EVER gives eternal life. God alone gives eternal life and Jesus asserts that it is by HIS POWER that he gives eternal life.
He asserts that his hand is one and the same with the Father's hand.
Perhaps we should take this discussion over to my vids?
jorsak 3 years ago
why have u discarded the old testament?
bd9mc 3 years ago
I LOVE the OT. It is not discarded in the slightest. It is ILLUMINATED by the New Testament and becomes all the more richer. Jesus is the fulfillment of the OT.
jorsak 3 years ago
we dont pretend, we only follow the truth..we belive in jesus and he is the mightyies messanger out of all. but we dont believe he is god because y god cant open is mouth.. y cant he say, i'm god......... i and my father are one'" what is the contex, go look at up... jesus died for our sins righttt, how stupiit.. if jesus died for our sins y dont you kill ppl.. jesus will forget you.. god was circumsized, how can god be circumsized,, yahhh dese are all in ur bible..... too many errors in bible.
aref9494 3 years ago
You do not follow the truth for only God who is with you is the truth
You merely mention the name of Jesus but you know nothing of his teachings
God made your mouth and all the universe,and God can do anything he pleases,who are you to say what God can and cannot do when he said he would come as a man knowing he would die on the cross to which he did
Jesus died because people doubted him to be God and to doubt God's powers,presence,love for humanity is sin for sin is negative thinking
BonjourNuit18 3 years ago
When you do not know the bible but follow the teachings of Muh who claimed the bible was falsified when he didn't know the languages of the Bible and he couldn't read to prove his own claims,then you are merely parroting someone who was deceived and who has deceived you
The Jews returned to Israel 60 years ago as prophecied by God 2800 years ago,that proves God keeps his promises that he made in the Bible to this day,therefore His words remain valid as He honours his words even if you do not
BonjourNuit18 3 years ago
Please don't be disrespectful. Muh? It's "Muhammed. If your doing it to delebiratly show hate, then grow up.
SteakIsGood100 3 years ago