I have a Five Seven and I would never want to get hit with one of those rounds. The velocity is incredible from a pistol and it hits verry hard for a small projectile. Of course the rifle version will smoke the pistols performance, but if you have not tried one, you should for shure. It is a fascinating gun to shoot.
The one thing that bodies have that ballistics gel doesn't is BONES! This is an impressive video with the mil. Spec. round...but use appropriate ammo is everything. The 40gr blue tipped round is made for expansion and has only about 8inches penetration (however with remarkable explosive destructive force from expansion). Don't undersell this round or over-hype what the civilian rounds will do. Lastly, it's an FNP! Drop it in the dirt, fire ire it 1000 rounds without cleaning it. Carry it
Holy shit why do people look for some magical round that doesent exist. If i shoot you 6 times with a .22lr then guess what? Your dead okay thats it so stfu all of you
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Ill stick with my 10mm. More damage, easier to find ammo, easier to reload. A $1000 pistol with a new trial cartridge isnt worth the time. Ill pay a third for the pmr-30 as i would for the FN.
@Tezcatlepocatl Will the +P .22 Mag defeat body armor? Will it feed reliable in a pistol or a full auto sub machine gun? Does it have a track record of killing in law enforcement use? Why do people all over the world keep buying this 5.7 round and its guns? Why don't you look it up.
@Tezcatlepocatl Just irritates me how the people in the gun world get crazy over rounds. I use a .45 for carry. But I used 9mm and .40. I even had the 7.62x25. My thing is over-penetration. The one reason I use the .45 so it is less likely to go through.
Wow it penetrated quite a bit before it released all that energy. Looked as effective as a 9mm or 38 special. with 20 of those you can't go wrong. I am a 45acp guy but I would be very satisfied with a service pistol that delivered those kinda result. I here the SS190 or (duty round) is more impressive. Any plans to review the ss190? I imagine they would let you get it for testing purposes?
@Tbone703 If anyone says that, tell him to ask the victims of the Ft. Hood shooting. I don't understand why people tend to call everything they distrust a "pussy round".
Any plans to test FN's 5.7x28mm SS195LF and SS197SR loads out of the FN PS90? I know you have tested them with the Five-seveN pistol, but I'm curious to see how they would perform out of the 16-inch PS90 barrel.
The really intersting thing is that the bullet goes in for a few inches before it really starts to dump energy. That means you waste less energy on the surface of the skin where there are no vital ogans
@ChineseSweatShoppe Cause-effect, my friend. The fact that this round perform well in bare gelatine doesn't mean it wasn't designed to be used on body armour.
@bf2lover42 the round was designed to be anti personnel with body armour, i was referring to the fact that it opened up after a little travel, if it opened up on contact, what good would it be against armour
@Maherbob21 Lol, that's called the "neck" and it's present with basically any bullet design. Ideally, you don't want a neck of more than 2.5-3" in calibrated ballistics gelatin. The 5.7x28mm just doesn't have attractive internal ballistics, especially in a pistol. It's only claim to fame is that it's better than HK's PDW cartridge.
I have a Five Seven and I would never want to get hit with one of those rounds. The velocity is incredible from a pistol and it hits verry hard for a small projectile. Of course the rifle version will smoke the pistols performance, but if you have not tried one, you should for shure. It is a fascinating gun to shoot.
harpoclarx 1 month ago
The one thing that bodies have that ballistics gel doesn't is BONES! This is an impressive video with the mil. Spec. round...but use appropriate ammo is everything. The 40gr blue tipped round is made for expansion and has only about 8inches penetration (however with remarkable explosive destructive force from expansion). Don't undersell this round or over-hype what the civilian rounds will do. Lastly, it's an FNP! Drop it in the dirt, fire ire it 1000 rounds without cleaning it. Carry it
viscache1 1 month ago
wick!
ducttapewireandglue 2 months ago
What does it do at 2100 fps which is the muzzle velocity with the FN factory load?
This video is equivalent to a 60 yard shot more or less?
Fotis416 2 months ago
Holy shit why do people look for some magical round that doesent exist. If i shoot you 6 times with a .22lr then guess what? Your dead okay thats it so stfu all of you
WhiteTrashRenegade13 2 months ago
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Ill stick with my 10mm. More damage, easier to find ammo, easier to reload. A $1000 pistol with a new trial cartridge isnt worth the time. Ill pay a third for the pmr-30 as i would for the FN.
SludgeCityGore 2 months ago
5.7x28 = +P .22 Magnum
I'll take some 7.62x25 instead, please.
Tezcatlepocatl 3 months ago
@Tezcatlepocatl Will the +P .22 Mag defeat body armor? Will it feed reliable in a pistol or a full auto sub machine gun? Does it have a track record of killing in law enforcement use? Why do people all over the world keep buying this 5.7 round and its guns? Why don't you look it up.
MrBoo88 3 months ago
@MrBoo88
1. Most likely yes, it will defeat Type I and IIA armor, or even a II if it has a steel core.
2. There are at least 3 semi-auto pistol models in existence that reliably feed 22 WMR. Look them up.
3. No, but hunters take medium game with it (though not legally). People are medium-game-sized.
4. Because FN did an excellent job of hyping it beyond what it is.
Police Issue 5.7x28mm muzzle energy: 530 joules
Standard .22 WMR muzzle energy: 440 joules; +P would likely push it up to 500.
Tezcatlepocatl 3 months ago
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@Tezcatlepocatl Just irritates me how the people in the gun world get crazy over rounds. I use a .45 for carry. But I used 9mm and .40. I even had the 7.62x25. My thing is over-penetration. The one reason I use the .45 so it is less likely to go through.
I loved the cz-52 I had. Little fire blaster.
MrBoo88 3 months ago
The SS-190 is similar to the SS-195 in bare gelatin
BrassFetcher 4 months ago
Wow it penetrated quite a bit before it released all that energy. Looked as effective as a 9mm or 38 special. with 20 of those you can't go wrong. I am a 45acp guy but I would be very satisfied with a service pistol that delivered those kinda result. I here the SS190 or (duty round) is more impressive. Any plans to review the ss190? I imagine they would let you get it for testing purposes?
smartguy104 4 months ago
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@Composer1777 Exactly what I was hinting at, except I probably meant level III.
bf2lover42 4 months ago
Looks like it would hurt. I hate all the people saying the 5.7x28 is a horrible round.
Tbone703 5 months ago
@Tbone703 If anyone says that, tell him to ask the victims of the Ft. Hood shooting. I don't understand why people tend to call everything they distrust a "pussy round".
bf2lover42 5 months ago 4
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bf2lover42 5 months ago
Any plans to test FN's 5.7x28mm SS195LF and SS197SR loads out of the FN PS90? I know you have tested them with the Five-seveN pistol, but I'm curious to see how they would perform out of the 16-inch PS90 barrel.
DML5728 5 months ago 17
nice, very controlled expansion.
flamedrag18 5 months ago
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DML5728 6 months ago
The really intersting thing is that the bullet goes in for a few inches before it really starts to dump energy. That means you waste less energy on the surface of the skin where there are no vital ogans
Maherbob21 6 months ago 19
@Maherbob21 no, it is meant to go through armour
ChineseSweatShoppe 5 months ago
@ChineseSweatShoppe Cause-effect, my friend. The fact that this round perform well in bare gelatine doesn't mean it wasn't designed to be used on body armour.
bf2lover42 4 months ago
@bf2lover42 the round was designed to be anti personnel with body armour, i was referring to the fact that it opened up after a little travel, if it opened up on contact, what good would it be against armour
ChineseSweatShoppe 4 months ago
@ChineseSweatShoppe The 5.7 was designed to have AP capabilities (steel penetrator and aluminium core), but this projectile one isn't.
The SS-197 is a polymer tipped projectile that is not classified as AP by the ATF and can't penetrate a Level II vest.
If it was AP, you couldn't buy it. FN only sells sporting variants to civilians.
bf2lover42 4 months ago
@bf2lover42 I am not even going to lie, I completely overlooked the "SS-197" designation in the description... thanks for pointing that out!
ChineseSweatShoppe 4 months ago
@ChineseSweatShoppe No worries.
bf2lover42 4 months ago
@bf2lover42 lulz, it was even in the title :D
ChineseSweatShoppe 4 months ago
@Maherbob21 It makes sense considering the 5.7x28 round was designed for penetration through body armor. Pretty cool design.
ComradeSn1P3r 2 months ago
@Maherbob21 Lol, that's called the "neck" and it's present with basically any bullet design. Ideally, you don't want a neck of more than 2.5-3" in calibrated ballistics gelatin. The 5.7x28mm just doesn't have attractive internal ballistics, especially in a pistol. It's only claim to fame is that it's better than HK's PDW cartridge.
Nater245689 2 days ago
That is the calibration BB, fired in from the back of the block.
Basically, just a quality control check on the block.
BrassFetcher 7 months ago
I notice a "dot" about 3/4 of the way through the gelatin on all your vids.
Is this a specific depth each time? A min acceptable self defence depth perhaps?
7x57mmMauser 7 months ago
@7x57mmMauser it's the test bb, to check the quality of the gel.
flamedrag18 5 months ago
That wasn't quite as good as I was expecting.
AntitheticMe 7 months ago
9x18 Makarov , please
efrol1 7 months ago