Boteach's examples are laughable. "Who are we to decide to have a child in the first place?" The alternative to a kid being born means they won't exist in the first place, which means they can't object one way or the other. The alternative to a kid being circumcised, on the other hand, is...having a penis that is the way it's supposed to be. The man is a clown, he's talking complete and utter nonsense
Attention: Rabbi shmuley Boteach --LISTEN UP you MORALIZING, PREACHY, LONG WINDED, PURITANICAL BUTCHER-- I WAS CUT--- . AND. I'M. FUCKING. ANGRY.AS.HELL.ABOUT.THE.MUTILATION.OF. THE. MOST. SENSITIVE. PART.OF. MY. BODY. KEEP YOUR GOD DAMN FUCKING "MITZVAHS" OFF MY DICK. You sick asshole. P.S. I was born jewish.
Further, the rate of HPV and cervical cancer is directly related to the NUMBER of unprotected partners and the AGE of first sexual encounter, NOT the presence of a foreskin. Development of HPV into Cervical cancer is related to the immune system's ability to clear this usually harmless virus. Our modern diet and lifestyle are also to blame here. HIV, the evidence is simply NOT compelling. Did Rabbi Boteach actually read the primary research articles himself?
Accidentally deleted my first comment. I am a woman who objects based on experience, have had both and yes circumcised do seem to enjoy it less. Circumcision negatively affects my biological ability as a woman to develop a deep pair bond with a partner. I believe Circumcision is actually a large part of what is leading to marriage breakdown; men also pair bond via intercourse. When a pair cannot fulfill each other sexually, this is when they will turn to pornography or other partners.
1. Shmuley cleverly switched the issue of the negative effects of circumcision to the "wondrous beauty" of how it teaches man the morality of sexuality and how to respect women.
A. This is clearly a perversion of the argument. I believe BOTH Shmuley and Eli do not argue that men should respect women. YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHOP OFF A MAN'S PENIS TO TEACH HIM TO RESPECT WOMEN!
B. I will post other issues. There is not enough room in this comment box
1. Shmuley cleverly switched the issue of the negative effects of circumcision to the "wondrous beauty" of how it teaches man the morality of sexuality and how to respect women. a. This is clearly a perversion of the argument. I believe BOTH Shmuley and Eli do not argue that men should respect women. YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHOP OFF A MAN'S PENIS TO TEACH HIM TO RESPECT WOMEN! b. I will post other isses. There is not enough room in this comment box
@yitzthegreat I don't think Shmuley was being clever at all by dodging the true issue. All I saw was a desperate man who knew he didn't have a leg to stand on this debate. Either that, or he's deluded.
Just HOW does cutting part off a baby's genitals "sanctify his sexuality lifelong"? I could understand (a little) better if it was done at the beginning of puberty or on getting engaged - and so could he.
Was Dominique Strauss-Kahn's sexuality santified more than that of an intact man who didn't harrass a housemaid'?
It's just a lot of what Shmuley is saying is rather... not accurate, really. Condoms protect against sexual transmitted diseases MORE than circumcision! Pushing for circumcision in places like africa will make things worse because these men are already thinking they don't need condoms.
@chromesthesia Yes except this one reported in ScienceNews: "Half of adult males carry HPV" Male circumcision and the use of condoms have shown little protection against HPV infection, Monsonego says.
Instead of trying to portray Ungar-Sargon as some radical secularist who is threatening religion (abstract misdirection. and false- it is obvious, if you actually listen to what he's saying that he's not), why can't the rabbi stick to the issue and respond-FACTS: it is a dangerous procedure that results in complications and sometimes death, it is an unalterable physical violence done to a pre-autonomous being with life-long consequences--what do you do when your religion proscribes such action?
@nzu1 I agree. Mr Ungar-Sargon approached the matter rationally, but the rabbi deals only in old wives tales. A circumcised penis helps one's community? Seriously? The man was clearly unprepared for such a debate. If he had done some research, he'd have looked like less of a fool. A five minute search on the internet would have shown him the a small fraction of the legions of men who resent the fact that a piece of their penis was removed when they were too young to object.
@TheWorstWarlock A substantial piece. Our type is called radial circ.& penile reduction it takes more skin than it leaves, 65%-85% of man's sexual receptors- in boys these receptors are undeveloped. They are stem cells called fibroblast that are sold from the hospital $200-$1000to be used in industries -facial creams, labs, bandages. Cut men don't hear bells an whistles cuz their model doesn't have bells and whistles.
I am blown away by how IGNORANT this rabbi is, and how unschooled he is in the art of debate. He doesn't address ANY of the points that Ungar-Sargon makes and chooses instead to use this so called debate as a platform to preach and rail about his own ideas of morality -that, again, have NOTHING to do with the arguments Ungar-Sargon posed. Why can't he simply respond to the well-articulated challenge of what to do when religious law is in conflict with one's own medical or ethical values?!
@TheChallenger2011 The Rabbi is correct in that regard, I'll grant him that, however he pisses all over his own point by using ear piercing as a parallel for infant circumcision. The difference between ear piercing and mgm is far greater than the difference between mgm and fgm. In any case a person whose parents pierced their ears can simply not use the piercing if they don't like it. A man whose foreskin has been taken can't very well grow it back or buy a new one, can he?
@TheWorstWarlock ya listening to the whole interview that Eli posted on his Youtube account it's pretty clear who won the debate.
Your right in a previous comment you made, It's sad how Rabbi Shmuley is "reaching" and strays from the debate of infant male circumcision to subjects of infidelity, marriage, divorce and even comments on advertizements for beer. Let's not forget he also mentions the music industry along with Lady Gaga, Aretha Franklin and Madonna.
What the hell is this man talking about? What exactly is this link between a strong community and circumcision? He's reaching. Do you mean to tell me you can't have all that that with a complete penis?
In the strictest sense of the word, ear piercing is mutilation. I wouldn't do it to my kids unless they asked for it. Given the choice, though, between having a tiny hole in his earlobe, or having a piece of his penis removed, what do you think most men would choose? Assuming, of course, his parents didn't taken the choice away from him when he was an infant.
Going off on a tangent is often the sign of a desperate man. How exactly are Aretha Franklin, The Beatles, etc pertinent to the subject of male genital mutilation? Stay on track.
@ianslass Exactly! That 1 child dies left alone the estimated 117 deaths each year- well let's just say if it was because of a toy the product would be off the shelves. (I Want My Foreskin For Giftmas youtube)) Of course! The Mogen Clamp has gone out of business because of all the botches cutting off their head too. Won $11 million last year andf another botch $4.6 million this month.
@Eli Foreskin restoration when done right never hurts. Pain means inflammation, means must stop replicating cells to first heal.
The corruption of language -(Judaic)-like the foreskin is the veil to seeing God clearly; or the penis like a bush,must be trimmed down so create hardier stock in procreation. Glick "Marked in Your Flesh" also see Dr. Leonard Glick "Circumcision" youtube. Is it okay to cut off someone's body without their permission? YES or NO!
South African Medical Association's Human Rights, Law & Ethics Committee stated that it was unethical and illegal to perform circumcision on infant boys. The Committee expressed serious concern not enough scientifically-based evidence was available to confirm circumcisions prevented HIV contraction and the public at large was influenced by incorrect and misrepresented information.
@Boteach You talk about what turns women off of sex. I'll tell you what turns men off of sex - CIRCUMCISION! Judaism says men are born imperfect girls are perfect. Well that's insulting. Judaic circumcision is a sacrificial act that mean he foreskin as much value as so does the pain and possible death. One wouldn't sacrifice nothing of value. Judaic circumcision is also called the yoke of burden as it weighs heavy throughout the circumcised man's lifetime. Circ. is not a thing of pleasure.
@RockoMyler LOL. Here I expected something to chew. Meanwhile I highly recommend Glick's book (everything on Jewish circumcision then and now) "Marked in Your Flesh". Really fascinating. Starts with Genesis 15 the original Abrahamic Covenant which has nothing to do with penis cutting. but 13 centuries after Abraham, circumcision was written by Judaic priests in Genesis 17. Arguably this doesn't matter if one believes. Recommend: "The Munchausen Complex: Socialization of Violence and Abuse"
@kotfrank True... The foreskin does have some function when it comes to sexual satisfaction, yet he thinks we should cut it off. It also keeps the glans from being calloused so men can keep enjoying sex. What the hell does him going on about monogamy have to do with anything? Has he been possessed by OSC? They'd probably be better off whole and intact.
The Beatles came from an intact society so no need to sell records with sex.
Update: Langerhans cells secrete langerin which KILLS HIV dead.
There is no study that shows HPV thrives under the foreskin. Would you also say HPV thrives in the vagina? BTW then how do account fro HPV in lesbian COUPLES? Look up studies. The true denigration of sex starts with what is known as Penile Reduction. Not being truly satisfying leads to outside sources-multi partners, drugs, toys (SexAsNatureIntended)
The Beatles came from an intact society so no need to sell records with sex.
Update: Langerhans cells secrete langerin which KILLS HIV dead.
There is no study that shows HPV thrives under the foreskin. Would you also say HPV thrives in the vagina? BTW then how do account fro HPV in lesbian COUPLES? Look up studies. The true denigration of sex starts with what is known as Penile Reduction. Not being truly satisfying leads to outside sources-multi partners, drugs, toys
"Circumcision has been proven to be the most efficient means to stop the transmission of HIV/AIDS." (studies valid for short term only in 3rd world).
Uh? The USA has the highest circumcision rate of all 1st wold nations, yet also the highest HIV/AIDS rate! (real life study nationally in the USA).
The true sexual scandals are happening to children just because they are male, Here baby let's rub antiseptic to erection then rip that foreskin apart and sever it off. Here have a Tylenol tab.
HAHAHAHA!!!! Mr. Boteach has NO IDEA what he's doing or what he's even supposed to talk about. People listen to him!? He just drug the entire thing out into broad unrelated social issues. Does he know that debate is Point - Counterpoint? Thank you Eli Ungar for making points that need to be made. At least one of you was on task. The description should read: Rabbi Schmuley Boteach on his ego, the awesomeness of Jew sex, Britney Spears and Monogamy, Eli Ungar-Sargon on circumcision.
Thank you for defending the right to genital integrity for boys, Eli! You did a wonderful job. All children must be protected from non-therapeutic, genital surgery. Jews who continue to defend this harmful practice owe it to the victims of male genital mutilation to do more research on the functions of the foreskin and the physical, physiological and psychological damage caused by circumcision.
@perrik7 Imposing a surgical deficit on infant genitals for the pathetic excuse of a "longer orgasm" is insane and cruel. Don't get me wrong, if you wish to cut of part of YOUR OWN penis off for "longer orgasms" fine that's your prerogative. To cut off part of a baby's penis with the assumption that that child will be thankful for this imposed deficit is just plain sick, sexually sick.
Shmuley Boteach is a lousy debater. Puts his audience to sleep with his looong pauses then sharply wakes them up with his screaming volume. Perverse him calling Chistopher HItchens his friend when HItchens is so strongly in favour of genital integrity of children.
@perrik7 - I'm a girl, and I know that circumcision equals 20K - 70K FEWER sexually responsive nerve endings. I also know that the foreskin equals more lubrication and less friction for me. =)
@whatUneverknew Of course you know. It's common sense. Fools like this rabbi don't want to admit that not only has he been robbed, but the religion that he sets so much store by is at odds with simple logic.
@perrik7 Every man starts of with premature ejaculation problems, and then becomes sated when sex is no longer supper novel. If you like circumcision you can have one, it's not your business to decide that it's not my choice to be left alone.
Boteach's examples are laughable. "Who are we to decide to have a child in the first place?" The alternative to a kid being born means they won't exist in the first place, which means they can't object one way or the other. The alternative to a kid being circumcised, on the other hand, is...having a penis that is the way it's supposed to be. The man is a clown, he's talking complete and utter nonsense
TheWorstWarlock 2 months ago
Attention: Rabbi shmuley Boteach --LISTEN UP you MORALIZING, PREACHY, LONG WINDED, PURITANICAL BUTCHER-- I WAS CUT--- . AND. I'M. FUCKING. ANGRY.AS.HELL.ABOUT.THE.MUTILATION.OF. THE. MOST. SENSITIVE. PART.OF. MY. BODY. KEEP YOUR GOD DAMN FUCKING "MITZVAHS" OFF MY DICK. You sick asshole. P.S. I was born jewish.
joshd321 3 months ago
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SLRfootgrl 6 months ago
Further, the rate of HPV and cervical cancer is directly related to the NUMBER of unprotected partners and the AGE of first sexual encounter, NOT the presence of a foreskin. Development of HPV into Cervical cancer is related to the immune system's ability to clear this usually harmless virus. Our modern diet and lifestyle are also to blame here. HIV, the evidence is simply NOT compelling. Did Rabbi Boteach actually read the primary research articles himself?
SLRfootgrl 6 months ago
Accidentally deleted my first comment. I am a woman who objects based on experience, have had both and yes circumcised do seem to enjoy it less. Circumcision negatively affects my biological ability as a woman to develop a deep pair bond with a partner. I believe Circumcision is actually a large part of what is leading to marriage breakdown; men also pair bond via intercourse. When a pair cannot fulfill each other sexually, this is when they will turn to pornography or other partners.
SLRfootgrl 6 months ago
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Eli is a smart man but not a debator.
1. Shmuley cleverly switched the issue of the negative effects of circumcision to the "wondrous beauty" of how it teaches man the morality of sexuality and how to respect women.
A. This is clearly a perversion of the argument. I believe BOTH Shmuley and Eli do not argue that men should respect women. YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHOP OFF A MAN'S PENIS TO TEACH HIM TO RESPECT WOMEN!
B. I will post other issues. There is not enough room in this comment box
yitzthegreat 6 months ago
Eli is a smart man but not a debator.
1. Shmuley cleverly switched the issue of the negative effects of circumcision to the "wondrous beauty" of how it teaches man the morality of sexuality and how to respect women. a. This is clearly a perversion of the argument. I believe BOTH Shmuley and Eli do not argue that men should respect women. YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHOP OFF A MAN'S PENIS TO TEACH HIM TO RESPECT WOMEN! b. I will post other isses. There is not enough room in this comment box
yitzthegreat 6 months ago 2
@yitzthegreat I don't think Shmuley was being clever at all by dodging the true issue. All I saw was a desperate man who knew he didn't have a leg to stand on this debate. Either that, or he's deluded.
TheWorstWarlock 6 months ago
Just HOW does cutting part off a baby's genitals "sanctify his sexuality lifelong"? I could understand (a little) better if it was done at the beginning of puberty or on getting engaged - and so could he.
Was Dominique Strauss-Kahn's sexuality santified more than that of an intact man who didn't harrass a housemaid'?
Hugh7777 7 months ago
It's just a lot of what Shmuley is saying is rather... not accurate, really. Condoms protect against sexual transmitted diseases MORE than circumcision! Pushing for circumcision in places like africa will make things worse because these men are already thinking they don't need condoms.
chromesthesia 7 months ago 2
@chromesthesia Yes except this one reported in ScienceNews: "Half of adult males carry HPV" Male circumcision and the use of condoms have shown little protection against HPV infection, Monsonego says.
kotfrank 7 months ago
Instead of trying to portray Ungar-Sargon as some radical secularist who is threatening religion (abstract misdirection. and false- it is obvious, if you actually listen to what he's saying that he's not), why can't the rabbi stick to the issue and respond-FACTS: it is a dangerous procedure that results in complications and sometimes death, it is an unalterable physical violence done to a pre-autonomous being with life-long consequences--what do you do when your religion proscribes such action?
nzu1 7 months ago 2
@nzu1 I agree. Mr Ungar-Sargon approached the matter rationally, but the rabbi deals only in old wives tales. A circumcised penis helps one's community? Seriously? The man was clearly unprepared for such a debate. If he had done some research, he'd have looked like less of a fool. A five minute search on the internet would have shown him the a small fraction of the legions of men who resent the fact that a piece of their penis was removed when they were too young to object.
TheWorstWarlock 7 months ago 3
@TheWorstWarlock A substantial piece. Our type is called radial circ.& penile reduction it takes more skin than it leaves, 65%-85% of man's sexual receptors- in boys these receptors are undeveloped. They are stem cells called fibroblast that are sold from the hospital $200-$1000to be used in industries -facial creams, labs, bandages. Cut men don't hear bells an whistles cuz their model doesn't have bells and whistles.
kotfrank 7 months ago
I am blown away by how IGNORANT this rabbi is, and how unschooled he is in the art of debate. He doesn't address ANY of the points that Ungar-Sargon makes and chooses instead to use this so called debate as a platform to preach and rail about his own ideas of morality -that, again, have NOTHING to do with the arguments Ungar-Sargon posed. Why can't he simply respond to the well-articulated challenge of what to do when religious law is in conflict with one's own medical or ethical values?!
nzu1 7 months ago 2
Cliterodectomy is not the same, it is much more severe, Rabbi Shmuley is right.
BUT, Hoodectomy is homologous to infant male penile circumcision
and it is illegal on females for good reason!
TheChallenger2011 7 months ago 2
@TheChallenger2011 The Rabbi is correct in that regard, I'll grant him that, however he pisses all over his own point by using ear piercing as a parallel for infant circumcision. The difference between ear piercing and mgm is far greater than the difference between mgm and fgm. In any case a person whose parents pierced their ears can simply not use the piercing if they don't like it. A man whose foreskin has been taken can't very well grow it back or buy a new one, can he?
TheWorstWarlock 7 months ago 2
@TheWorstWarlock ya listening to the whole interview that Eli posted on his Youtube account it's pretty clear who won the debate.
Your right in a previous comment you made, It's sad how Rabbi Shmuley is "reaching" and strays from the debate of infant male circumcision to subjects of infidelity, marriage, divorce and even comments on advertizements for beer. Let's not forget he also mentions the music industry along with Lady Gaga, Aretha Franklin and Madonna.
TheChallenger2011 7 months ago 3
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TheChallenger2011 7 months ago
What the hell is this man talking about? What exactly is this link between a strong community and circumcision? He's reaching. Do you mean to tell me you can't have all that that with a complete penis?
TheWorstWarlock 7 months ago 3
In the strictest sense of the word, ear piercing is mutilation. I wouldn't do it to my kids unless they asked for it. Given the choice, though, between having a tiny hole in his earlobe, or having a piece of his penis removed, what do you think most men would choose? Assuming, of course, his parents didn't taken the choice away from him when he was an infant.
TheWorstWarlock 7 months ago
Going off on a tangent is often the sign of a desperate man. How exactly are Aretha Franklin, The Beatles, etc pertinent to the subject of male genital mutilation? Stay on track.
TheWorstWarlock 7 months ago
Rabbi claims he's never had a foreskin. He did, though. it was taken from him before he even got any use out of it.
TheWorstWarlock 7 months ago 2
This Rabbi fellow is WEAK. His arguments and defences are feeble.
TheWorstWarlock 7 months ago
If only 1 man is tortured by a foreskin removed from him without his consent...it is one too many! Wake up!
ianslass 7 months ago 12
@ianslass Exactly! That 1 child dies left alone the estimated 117 deaths each year- well let's just say if it was because of a toy the product would be off the shelves. (I Want My Foreskin For Giftmas youtube)) Of course! The Mogen Clamp has gone out of business because of all the botches cutting off their head too. Won $11 million last year andf another botch $4.6 million this month.
kotfrank 7 months ago 2
Rabbi Shmuley circumcised the debate. Here is the full version, where the audience questions his denialist assertions /watch?v=-R852-AViBY
BarefootIntactivist 7 months ago 4
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Mystoksor 7 months ago 3
@Boteach This rather blows your Jewish idealistic circumcision effects: Michael Phillips Blogs - Jul 12, 2011
Fascinating article on the Jewish history of polygamy. I wrote a blog two weeks ago on why polygamy could increase national population growth.
(Jpost) New Jewish group wants to restore polygamy
Practice promoted as solution for the abundance of single women, Arab demographic threat and the predicament of seeking extramarital relations.(cont.)
kotfrank 7 months ago 3
The unabridged version (audio only) watch?v=-R852-AViBY
AbeNocirc 7 months ago 2
@perrik Circumcision =last too long=
@Eli Foreskin restoration when done right never hurts. Pain means inflammation, means must stop replicating cells to first heal.
The corruption of language -(Judaic)-like the foreskin is the veil to seeing God clearly; or the penis like a bush,must be trimmed down so create hardier stock in procreation. Glick "Marked in Your Flesh" also see Dr. Leonard Glick "Circumcision" youtube. Is it okay to cut off someone's body without their permission? YES or NO!
kotfrank 7 months ago 2
South African Medical Association's Human Rights, Law & Ethics Committee stated that it was unethical and illegal to perform circumcision on infant boys. The Committee expressed serious concern not enough scientifically-based evidence was available to confirm circumcisions prevented HIV contraction and the public at large was influenced by incorrect and misrepresented information.
kotfrank 7 months ago
@Boteach You talk about what turns women off of sex. I'll tell you what turns men off of sex - CIRCUMCISION! Judaism says men are born imperfect girls are perfect. Well that's insulting. Judaic circumcision is a sacrificial act that mean he foreskin as much value as so does the pain and possible death. One wouldn't sacrifice nothing of value. Judaic circumcision is also called the yoke of burden as it weighs heavy throughout the circumcised man's lifetime. Circ. is not a thing of pleasure.
kotfrank 7 months ago
@kotfrank You almost don't even need to debate Boteach- he tends to undo himself given enough time.
RockoMyler 7 months ago 4
@RockoMyler LOL. Here I expected something to chew. Meanwhile I highly recommend Glick's book (everything on Jewish circumcision then and now) "Marked in Your Flesh". Really fascinating. Starts with Genesis 15 the original Abrahamic Covenant which has nothing to do with penis cutting. but 13 centuries after Abraham, circumcision was written by Judaic priests in Genesis 17. Arguably this doesn't matter if one believes. Recommend: "The Munchausen Complex: Socialization of Violence and Abuse"
kotfrank 7 months ago 3
@kotfrank True... The foreskin does have some function when it comes to sexual satisfaction, yet he thinks we should cut it off. It also keeps the glans from being calloused so men can keep enjoying sex. What the hell does him going on about monogamy have to do with anything? Has he been possessed by OSC? They'd probably be better off whole and intact.
chromesthesia 7 months ago
The Beatles came from an intact society so no need to sell records with sex.
Update: Langerhans cells secrete langerin which KILLS HIV dead.
There is no study that shows HPV thrives under the foreskin. Would you also say HPV thrives in the vagina? BTW then how do account fro HPV in lesbian COUPLES? Look up studies. The true denigration of sex starts with what is known as Penile Reduction. Not being truly satisfying leads to outside sources-multi partners, drugs, toys (SexAsNatureIntended)
kotfrank 7 months ago 5
The Beatles came from an intact society so no need to sell records with sex.
Update: Langerhans cells secrete langerin which KILLS HIV dead.
There is no study that shows HPV thrives under the foreskin. Would you also say HPV thrives in the vagina? BTW then how do account fro HPV in lesbian COUPLES? Look up studies. The true denigration of sex starts with what is known as Penile Reduction. Not being truly satisfying leads to outside sources-multi partners, drugs, toys
kotfrank 7 months ago 5
"Circumcision has been proven to be the most efficient means to stop the transmission of HIV/AIDS." (studies valid for short term only in 3rd world).
Uh? The USA has the highest circumcision rate of all 1st wold nations, yet also the highest HIV/AIDS rate! (real life study nationally in the USA).
The true sexual scandals are happening to children just because they are male, Here baby let's rub antiseptic to erection then rip that foreskin apart and sever it off. Here have a Tylenol tab.
kotfrank 7 months ago 4
HAHAHAHA!!!! Mr. Boteach has NO IDEA what he's doing or what he's even supposed to talk about. People listen to him!? He just drug the entire thing out into broad unrelated social issues. Does he know that debate is Point - Counterpoint? Thank you Eli Ungar for making points that need to be made. At least one of you was on task. The description should read: Rabbi Schmuley Boteach on his ego, the awesomeness of Jew sex, Britney Spears and Monogamy, Eli Ungar-Sargon on circumcision.
whatUneverknew 7 months ago 3
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Very well done Eli Ungar-Sargon!
There is no excuse for genital abuse of children. Circumcision is on the decline despite the sexually sick people who still defend and promote it.
Bonobo3D 7 months ago 6
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Bonobo3D 7 months ago
Thank you for defending the right to genital integrity for boys, Eli! You did a wonderful job. All children must be protected from non-therapeutic, genital surgery. Jews who continue to defend this harmful practice owe it to the victims of male genital mutilation to do more research on the functions of the foreskin and the physical, physiological and psychological damage caused by circumcision.
MelancholyLogic 7 months ago 6
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MALE CIRCUMCISION = LONGER ORGASM
ALL THE GIRLS KNOW THAT
perrik7 7 months ago
@perrik7 Imposing a surgical deficit on infant genitals for the pathetic excuse of a "longer orgasm" is insane and cruel. Don't get me wrong, if you wish to cut of part of YOUR OWN penis off for "longer orgasms" fine that's your prerogative. To cut off part of a baby's penis with the assumption that that child will be thankful for this imposed deficit is just plain sick, sexually sick.
Bonobo3D 7 months ago 7
Shmuley Boteach is a lousy debater. Puts his audience to sleep with his looong pauses then sharply wakes them up with his screaming volume. Perverse him calling Chistopher HItchens his friend when HItchens is so strongly in favour of genital integrity of children.
Bonobo3D 7 months ago 5
@perrik7 - I'm a girl, and I know that circumcision equals 20K - 70K FEWER sexually responsive nerve endings. I also know that the foreskin equals more lubrication and less friction for me. =)
whatUneverknew 7 months ago 14
@whatUneverknew Of course you know. It's common sense. Fools like this rabbi don't want to admit that not only has he been robbed, but the religion that he sets so much store by is at odds with simple logic.
TheWorstWarlock 7 months ago
@perrik7 If by longer, you mean "severely diminished", then yeah, it's definitely longer.
RockoMyler 7 months ago 3
@perrik7 If you mean that in the same way that "TWISTED ANKLE = TAKES LONGER TO WALK FROM A TO B", then yeah, everybody knows that.
TheWorstWarlock 7 months ago
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@perrik7 But by all means, if that's how you console yourself, then go ahead.
TheWorstWarlock 7 months ago
@perrik7 Every man starts of with premature ejaculation problems, and then becomes sated when sex is no longer supper novel. If you like circumcision you can have one, it's not your business to decide that it's not my choice to be left alone.
PlantigradeBiped 7 months ago