Thugt1cian: "white mans incest is the cause of feminism"....wtf?!

[MrSchultzstaffel]

I'm a white male and I don't care if the guy says that white males have caused feminisim through incest or drinking. He has freedom of speech and that means he can make asshole statements if he wants to. Rich, white liberals have been at the root cause of feminism...but the sad thing is that this ridicilous and horrible ideology has taken such serious root with so many American women today. There's an entire generation of women that are totally ruined and worthless. They're good for nothing.

[sinner12887]

He needs to get a job and get of the pipe.

[poligon333]

I can not believe it, the white male is blamed by everybody this start to be comical.

[TheBigBadWoIf]

fagtician? lol

[xanatose]

In my opinion. Todays feminism serves the purpose of dividing men and women. Making family weaker.

Corporations love the flexible workforce created after WW2. Before, women took care of children and the salary of one man could pay for the family needs. Now, the television and Internet take care of children, as both parents need to work to just live. As family grow weaker, work become more and more important. Up to the point than families are no more and the company is whats important.

[Abobojo]

Fuck Thugtician Barbarosa......you're 10 times more of service to the MRM then that fuckwit.....don't even bother with him.

[Sulvuss]

Offend me?...as a white guy..no, You get used to it. You learn that you have no protection in political correct society so we just learn to expect it. We all know those sort of people are batshit insane anyway..why waste the time and breathe?

-Don't get me wrong. I am not saying we're under constant attack. I am just saying we learn to expect it. It is rare in reality, don't know about mainstream media as I just avoid it-

[deepblue330]

what in this video helps anyONE check the EGO BARBARA

[1titans]

You took his vid out of context, that vid was superb

[Lotusflowerism]

his account is closed. looks like you've done your job. he was probably just an internet troll looking for attention anyway.

[rfrantzt]

Lastly, not that Thugt1cian needs defending...

but isn't deleting an audio rant the equivalent of using an eraser when working out a math problem or the "backspace" key when writing a paper?

If someone removes a video perhaps they were not satisfied with the material they presented so....

what EXACTLY is your point?

[rfrantzt]

Alcoholism and incest as the catalyst for feminism? I can believe it...

American child pornography is often white parental exploitation of children. You, barbarossaaa, didn't even play thugt1cian's clip so we don't even know the context of your quote... shit, its not even a quote, its a paraphrase.

Lastly, this clip was 80% "feelings" and 20% information... Which makes me wonder if matriarchy hasn't influenced your style of thinking/argument. I gave you a chance, and wasted my time.

FAIL

[pedrom41]

I just listened to this guy who goes by the name DC--he's just one example of idiots

and ignorants with computers. You can't

understand what the hell he's talking about. A man who can't hardly put two coherent sentences together madly ranting against Thugtician as if Thug stole

something from him or say something derogatorily about his mother. Damn ignorants! And I suppose I don't have to tell you what kind of crowd pay him attention.

[pedrom41]

relevant to what we men are up against?

Insights? Solution-suggestions? Suggestion how should we all together

tackle the situation? What? What exactly do you have? For if you do, I seriously would like to hear it. Don't take what brother Thugtician says PERSONAL! This

is not about you!. Let Thug present his

argument and/or idea, and you present yours, and we would look at both to see

which one tally with the criterion of reasonableness. Just turning this into a

personal BS wont suffice.

[pedrom41]

a few insults, and some name-calling! So

evidently you don't understand the magnitude of our predicament or you just

don't care. In your attempt to "expose"

Thugtician as a "fake", or as this or that or

the other, you have forgot what we're here for. You haven't said anything on behalf of

the cause intelligent enough to be taken

seriously! For the sake of argument, let's

just say that Thug is a "fake"--ok. What about you? What do you have to offer? Do

you have anything to say........

[pedrom41]

but so far you haven't said anything of any

worth! You haven't presented a counter

argument to convince me that what Thug

has said is not valid or at least worth of

some consideration. I've heard many talking about "exposing" him and

"debunking" his arguments. Well you haven't done that. And you cannot do it with a few high school insults. We men--

and black men in particular--are facing some serious dilemma today in our society, and all you have to offer is some

personal attacks.......

[pedrom41]

I'm yet to read an intelligent argument opposing Thug1tician's view. So far all I've been reading is a bunch of ignorant

statements which amount but to stupid and childish insults reflecting some wounded egos. Why you take this so personal as if you were the center of our

main issue? This is not ABOUT YOU! OK, I can accept that you don't like what Thug

says, or the way or style in which he delivers his message. I can accept you don't like what he says. Maybe he's wrong,

maybe you know better

[blupheonix44]

As a white guy....

I'm split... I'm offended about what he said about the alcohol and incest. But, he is right about bored white, middle\upper class housewives back in the day...

Your talking Rothschild family, Carnegie family, et al for the creation of feminism, right?

[enychee1]

he didn't back up the videobut i can't blameThugt1cian for thinking that.even if it's true or not.....if you look at history some people would believe something like that ...from the christian crusades to the slave trades the fruits of a man says it all.according to your fruits you will be judged..i think you should leave him alone....lol

[CCRoxtar]

Kudos for having the courage to confront or discredit the bad apples in our movement. Whether it's their intention or not, their rhetoric & actions merely set our movement back. Whether we are Protestants or Catholics, whether we are Democrats or Republicans, whether we are Masons or Elks, & whether we are white, black, Hispanic, Chinese or Cherokee, we're all in the same boat as MEN & therefore should unite as such. Hats off to you!

[DrDragon63]

ROTFLMAO!!! Excellent!

[feministdestroyer]

zero respect for thugtician now

[Shehasnomorals]

Feminism is nothing more than an extension of the age old class war. Millions of men are disempowered (and women as well) by setting the masses against one another. The elite (both men and women) fear the uprising of the average human yearning for freedom and thus various "isms" are allowed to develop and even funded in order to bottleneck power, create corporate and institutional slaves, and prevent potential usurpers from freeing themselves from the western Matrix.

[blackPowerStick]

thugtician that dude is a weirdo now he is trying 2 get into black concioussness because  his credibility is going from the mens rights campaigners

[crypter27]

I stopped listening to fagiticion,hes a numskull!

[blkskin1]

what up bro...dont worry about much you step in his ass...we know you're about business...but sometimes you gotta let cats know what happens when you become treasonous....stay you

[stoldgar]

crabs in a bucket, you were and still do make interesting remarks, so I will continue listening. But take sides against my brother I won't do. Agree to disagree but KEEP it moving.

[juliandeathgod]

I saw the video on his page didn't watch it though.

[thestudent09]

A: exellent points and i feel that thagtician has been completly destroyed and you have no need to go at him further. B: that ending was absolutly epic!!! i kinda wish you used randy hays version of the line though, still lol!!!

[damiecol85]

@Barbarossaaaa, got to ask you, I can't help but to notice lately you've been quick to pointout race envoked issues against white men, when in fact there are many "whtie" MRA/anti Feminist/conservative republicans(dickeydunn44) who envoke race too. I know you and Thugtician are NOW at odds over "Man as Leader" issue, but come on man, the race thing seems a little onesided!

[menareangrynow]

Would you mind if I jumped in to your query?

There are many people, who claim to be MRA's, who primarily or entirely deal with and in racial issues. If you look at Thugtician and his friends, some of which actually are avowed feminists, like BlakeBarbieDoll. She and him were working together to attack actual MRAs, such as soulnbalck. Truth be told Thugtician and most of his friends are not MRA's; they've shown no interest in the subject. All they want to talk about is skin color.

[damiecol85]

@menareangrynow, Well calling oneself an MRA is often arbitrated by those who call themselve MRAs. The only prerequisite for being an MRA on this median requires being able to upload videos. As far as issues over skin color, it would be naive to pretend that skin color won't factor into a movement of this proportion. We have over a thousand years of history to back that reality up!

[barbarossaaaa]

@damiecol part 1

the only reason ive been quick to point out issues against white men, is becuase it is directly proportional to the racist rhetoric ive been hearing by people who claim to be mra's

i can honestly say, that throughout all my time on youtube, ive never, been called a racist name by someone who was white, but i have been called a half breed, and a dirty mullatto and a cracker devil, exclusively by blacks on youtube and so this type of racism is the one ive concentrated ---> cont.

[damiecol85]

@Barbarossaaaa, I'm very sorry you had to deal these epithets, they shouldn't be condoned. However, "never, been called a racist name by" whites probably has to do with the fact that most of them think your are white. Yes I know in prior videos you maintained that you arent white or black. Personally Ive seen my far share of Pro black and Pro white stances from MRAs, so its not just "exclusively by blacks". Got to disagree with you on that one!

[whitelepourdevil]

But you lean more to the white side so you need to eat an apple pig hahahaha

[barbarossaaaa]

@damiecol part 2

of course i know that this isnt how all blacks think, and i am also well aware, that many whites are racist, but i feel as though the anti-white racism, was being allowed to slide where as anti black racism is almost never allowed to slide...as for dickeydunn, ive never even heard of him, and if he is relevant, and injecting race into mens rights then i will get at him...

however i did a search on dickeydunn44, and i cant find his channell at all

[damiecol85]

Dickeydunn555, I wrote his name wrong On your favs(Feminist don't care), sorry bout that! And theirs no need to "get at him...", I was making the point that everyone on Youtube professing MRA rhetoric, whatever race they are, are and alway will be a little biased towards their own group. In othersword none of us have any control over race being injected into certain arguements, it's bound to come eventually and is something you and other MRAs are going to deal with! For what it's worth!

[barbarossaaaa]

i disagree completely, we do have control over whether or not race is injected into the mrm, and i really dont care if people are biased to their own faction of the mrm, so lang as they keep their bias out of mens rights. saying that we cant control it is just a cop-out

[whitelepourdeviland]

I might have to make a vid on this batty boy I got characters like him on lock

Keep race out of like who the fuck is this guy man?? Where did they make you?

You don't run nuttin but your comment section lol Race has to be injected into it. White people do not share same issues as blacks? get over yourself Barbarooosa ariba ariba

What do you think this is the song we are the world? lol

[damiecol85]

Well you got you work cut out for you. The only thing individuals can have control over is themselves, and sometimes individuals can't control themselves. You nor I have any control over what people choose to do, if that's just a cop-out then why is there a need for MRA's in the first place, obviously because women and society are out of control! But I guess we can agree to disagree!

[damiecol85]

@barbarosssaaaa cont

if you feel you up to that task purifying the movement from racism, by all mean do so, I am against racialism as much as you are. We all know there isn't just a oneway source for race based thinking!

[barbarossaaaa]

hey dameicol, look at people like whitelepourdevil and the type of comments they leave on my page...your telling me that this kind of rhetoric is what you want?

this is why i want race removed from mens rights

[damiecol85]

@barbarossaaas, Yeah I seen that guy before!LOL Who ever it is, is purposely bating you to see your reactions. You have to be bigger than that if you want to prevail in this line of work. Trust me, when your in the limelight, sometimes not reacting is the best action! Word to the wise!

[keelamwri]

I think you might be contorting what Thugtician actually said. I saw and saved that video and he didnt say that "White men's tendency towards incest caused feminism." He clearly stated that White WOMEN started it and that PART of their reason for wanting independence from marriage with white men was incest. That, as well as violence, alcoloholism, isolation, boredom, and poverty. Main point being not Black Men, or thugs pandering to females.

Just thought you might wanna know, ya know?

[barbarossaaaa]

@ keelamwri part1

"and that PART of their reason for wanting independence(feminism) from marriage with white men was incest."

the acusation as you describe it, is still saying that an action, that white men where taking, caused white woman, to start feminism

1) white woman did not start feminism they were given the tools to implement it, via govt. funding and having the media on thier sides, but they were not the architects

2) everybody knows that it had to have been an extremely cont-->

[barbarossaaaa]

@ keelamwri part2

---> miniscule amt. of white men who were taking part in incest, in the 1960's where are thugs references, where did he get this info, because, im having a hard trouble finding any information that correlates with what he is saying, the occurance of incest for any race of men, is extremely low

also if you have the video why dont you send it to me, so that i can post it and let everybody hear exactly what he said?

wouldnt that solve the issue?

[harr77]

Nice love this thugtician hate!

[JazzyZenBrotha]

Thugtician may feel like he's the "Unstoppable Juggernaut" but we men need to come together, and with our man power together we'll become the HULK to put "Juggernaut" in his place.

Just as the Hulk has always stopped Juggernaut in the comics (the few times that they met), we as men must unite and stop Thugtician's bullshit.

[thestudent09]

acctualy im more of a juggernaut fan...anyways id put him more in the catagory of that mugger who shot uncle ben, even a regular cop from the comic could take him down

[JazzyZenBrotha]

True. I agree

[MrSoulnblack]

That is ridiculous what in the world I didn't hear this video. Unbelieveable, what the heck is doing. Sad.

[MaxSachs]

I downloaded a few of those vids before he pulled them. Lately, Thugticians tendency for hard-core race baiting is unacceptable. For a while I stayed subscribed to his channel with some hope that he might return to his original path of MRAism--which was some very useful material that I managed to save--but no longer. The last few vids were just plain unacceptable. And to think I defended him months ago when Bill12206 made a vid about Thugs other side....shame.

[raisismith]

Brotha....you already smoked this dude in your previous videos! The more you continue to talk about him, the more relevant he becomes.

Remember, we're not here to save zombies, and so if your listeners haven't already got the messasge about fagtician, they're never going to get it.

[barbarossaaaa]

@ raisis

your right, im done talking about him, but i just felt that people had to know exactly what he was saying, because he took down the video hours after he put it up..

but i making it clear here once and for all......  I AM DONE

[Truth0rDeath]

I'm really disappointed to see him saying the kind of crap he's been saying. I had high hopes for him when he first came out. Where he's getting this shit from I have no idea. I've never heard anything quite like it.

[taogarrett]

Good calling on his shit, I watched all of the video then I clicked it off and unsubscribed from his videos. He had some good videos but then he went downhill using racist -blaming whitey crap. Feminism is a War on All Men, They don't care about your race.

[pinegrove33]

You know, he's had such great experiences with white people here on YT i'm a bit surprised he'd turn on us like this. Maybe he felt uncomfortable with our liking him. I really don't get it.

[kuunami]

I have two theories. First of which is, he's alienated a lot a lot of the black people on YT who are supporting the men's movement and he thinks that attacking white people with racist nonsense will win them back over.

Or it's just another ridiculous attempt to draw attention to himself. Either way, a clown will always be a clown.

[shinobivega]

@pinegrove33:

Once a racist, always a racist.

I'm disappointed in Thugtician, too. He was my hero in the beginning. He made me laugh my ass off on several of his earlier vids.

But then, he went all Black Panther on us and it's all been downhill from there.

Aside from introducing the term "pussy beggar" and his earlier vids, Thugtician has nothing more 2 say. He should just shut up and hang it up B-4 he makes a bigger fool of himself than he already has.

[deathrattle216]

Good shit.

[Suitsnappy]

This unnecessary back-and-forth is only losing followers and respect from the both of you. It's time to end this bickering, agree to disagree, and move on.

[Suitsnappy]

The MRA movement is now divided: pro-Thugtician and pro-Barbarossa. This is not how it's supposed to be. We are in a weak state, and we are becoming easy targets for the feminists. Please cease this useless feud once and for all.

[thecreepyguy]

Unlike a feminist movement we MRAs are INDIVIDUALS capable of thinking of ourselves, A uniting leader if anyone would be argus eyes but we have a our own voices.

[menareangrynow]

The MRA is not divided because Thugtician is not a men's rights activist. It's more of an attempt to purge racism from our ranks, than anything else.

[Suitsnappy]

Thug did say some shit that was out of line but Barb is still throwing this way out of proprtion. Thugtician is still an MRA just like the rest of us, although I do admit that he needs to own up to his MAJOR mistake in telling a woman to call the cops on a man.

[cdubMRA]

Thugtician is a clown...not an MRA.

[barbarossaaaa]

@ suitsnappy

im perfectly happy to just keep it moving, but im sorry, calling yourself, an mra, while at the same time, blaming men of another race for feminism, is just unacceptable.

what if the roles were reversed and it was some white guy saying these things about blacks, would there not be a massive backlash, and would he not be immediately discredited?

all im asking is that nobody be allowed to bring race, into the mrm

[Suitsnappy]

Okay, I respect your stance. But this whole thing is getting nowhere. If you really don't like Thugtician or his message, ignore him from now on. And that goes for anyone else.

This feud is counter-productive and it needs to end.

[cobyson05]

I didn't even know who Thugtician was ( and haven't watch any of his videos yet) until a few days ago, but in my opinion he seems to winning the battle, whatever battle this is. :-)

[Suitsnappy]

Damn right he's winning. Barbarossa keeps on attacking Thugtician and Thug won't even acknowledge Barb by name or pay him any mind.

This whole thing is pointless and needs to end. I'm not taking any sides because both sides are wrong. We need UNITY. Either learn to disagree respectfully or just ignore each other from now on.

[PoliticalSkeptic]

the problem is Thugtician doesn't ignore everyone else. He claimed he only attacks leaders then he goes after that monstrosity guy and some chick. Both who clearly are not leaders and have nothing to do with MRA.

[definingmanhood]

I really don't watch Thugticians videos anymore. I'm tired of the racial bullshit man. All hes doing is exploiting the insecurities and racial animosity of many African Americans, to cement himself a following. He's not the only tool on YouTube doing this. It goes from being "I'm not a racist, I'm just making a video from the black perspective" to "White people are drunken cousin fuckers". Its fuckin retarded and I'm not gonna be another view on his videos. He's dead to me.

[Chevrobert]

I watched half of that video then I clicked it off and unsubscribed from his videos. He is only concerned wit black men's rights and we aren't going to get anywhere if we sperarate the movement in to races. In order for men's rights to be taken seriously men and women of honor have to fight against this kind of extremeism. Great vid thanks.

[mala265]

Barbarrossaaa...lol...the ending........loved it!

I didnt see that particular video where thugtician said that...wth.

[barbarossaaaa]

@ mala

yeah he only had the video up for one day, and probably listened to it, and realized how racist it was, and took it down..

but believe me...he definitely said everything i mentioned in this vid about whites and incest

[crh2010]

thugtician is clearly a moron

[UnionMetalhead]

Well that sums it all up, i had heard about him being racist and now this title says it all as regards thug.

[Nymphe14]

Feminism was started back in the mid-1800s by wealthy white women who had nothing better to do. *sigh* A dis-information agent, perhaps?

[crh2010]

u are partly right, also the government had alot to do with that as well

[Nymphe14]

With the second wave of feminism, oh, yes, big time! It served the elite and their lackeys very well.