Blame elected leaders we voted for. Blame the CEO's that cut/outsource American Jobs in exchange for BIG Bonuses!
I refuse to blame foreclosures on the HomeBuyers.
Think about it. Did they REALLY buy a house/get a Mortgage they could NOT afford? Get sub-prime duped? Did anyone think companies paying enough to buy a house CAN turn around and cut jobs? Cut pay? CUT Overtime?
I BELIEVE that's exactly what's happened.
Remember the Overtime Law Bush struck down in 2004?
If you HAVE a MySpace Page and/or Facebook, SEND videos like this one to as many friends as you can!
I send them as comments.
Do you have "Hi5"? The postings work there, too! I found out you must be sure to ad the person's name or something to each comment sent so it does not come off as spam.
Cynthia McKinney is now the Green Party candidate and she supports a smaller government and decentralization.
Although I do not like ANY politicians, the politicians I have found who are truly for the people are the following.
Cynthia McKinney (Green Party), Mike Gravel (Libertarian), Ralph Nader (Independent) and maybe Ron Paul (Republican -- he wasn't a hypocrite, he was for the people but with his form of 'libertarianism', corporations would take control).
Blame elected leaders we voted for. Blame the CEO's that cut/outsource American Jobs in exchange for BIG Bonuses!
I refuse to blame foreclosures on the HomeBuyers.
Think about it. Did they REALLY buy a house/get a Mortgage they could NOT afford? Get sub-prime duped? Did anyone think companies paying enough to buy a house CAN turn around and cut jobs? Cut pay? CUT Overtime?
I BELIEVE that's exactly what's happened.
Remember the Overtime Law Bush struck down in 2004?
This is the year. It is time to change things. Let's get people to change their minds. It's going to take many many uncomfortable conversations. Have those conversations. It matters.
I still don't understand how the government can bail out the Banks.. & still poor people get made homeless!??
If the government 'BAILED' them out.. surely the 'poor people' (sub-prime) should have their mortgages paid off, from the Government bail out?!
If the 'bail out' left people in their homes you could understand it. But this way, bad decision making is 'guaranteed' NOT to lead to your corporation's going bust!
So now 'fraud', 'mismanagement' etc are all guaranteed by government funds!!!
Not to mention it is we the taxpayer who are bailing out the corporations...
And, totally unrelated, but why the hell are we still giving corporate subsidies to the oil companies that made more in profits than any other company in history... ever? WHY? Our government is a sham and a failure.
I wish you would prepare a 10 minute video of Nader with a summary of his approach to all issues and telling the voters why they should vote for him WITHOUT any distracting music.
His message is scattered in different interviews but it would be most helpful if it was summarized.
2. please put the transcripts of the interviews with Nader and Gonzales on votenader (dot) org
Nader, as usual, is the only one who tells the truth. The Dems are doing nothing about helping Americans to keep their homes and their families together and just as in the joke fest they made out of the Impeachement proceedings, they couldn't care less. They are in DC for no other reason than to get their fair share of the under-the-table corporate kickback money.
Here in WA state, we just got our voter pamphlets. While my local house rep is pretty good, there are a few issues that I don't agree with him on. However, looking at the pamphlet, my only choice is him or a republican. I would definitely support new blood. But I'm NOT voting republican. We need to get more third party candidates RUNNING for smaller offices. It's going to be interesting here in WA with our new top 2 primary...
we are all to blame, greedy banks, government for not regulating, deceitful loan officers and consumers for being uneducated... and greedy too, let's not forget the swarms of people who bought homes they could not afford...
Trust me, Nader has been raising enough money. He kicked butt up in northern California this weekend. He cleaned house. I'm with you on the Democrats comment. they should be beating McCain's ass. Instead Obama is adopting his positions. Nader's 6 percent has nowhere to go but up.
I am 34. I have never voted for a Democrat in my life, but I am planning to vote for Nader right now. Given the corporate control of the government, the first thing we need today is honest person. Given our economic predicament, we need a brilliant one. Nader is the only one running who fits either of those descriptions.
You. Must. Be. Kidding. All the funding? All the funding! The guy can't raise enough money to buy gas to keep his bus running. And if the Democrats can't win without the measly 6% that Nader is going to draw, they deserve to lose to that psychopath, warmonger McCain.
Sounds like your not voting for anybody at all, since you just put down all the parties involved in running for presidency in some way. The reason Nader asks for donations from his public supporters (in case you haven't read his platform), is because he wants honest money from honest people. Not scumbag CEO's who are looking for future "favors" like the other 2. He doesn't doesn't want to dirty his lips by sucking corporate ass.
No, you miss my point. I was just replying to the dope who said that Nader raises a bunch of money from "conservatives." Nader is the only guy I would even consider voting for.
Oh, I didn't realize you were responding to someone else's criticisms. Umm, er, uh, What I meant to say was, "you rock!" Keep it up! Nader in 08! Yeah, that's what I meant! haha!
This discussion confirms that Nader is raising the SERIOUS issues of great concern to many. We NEED to hear from him in a public debate. I can not believe that there are rules that deprive us from just that!
agree- we incorrectly refer to homeowners as owners: this system of fake ownership is a phenomena that has been adopted and emerging in countries where traditionally most people really owned their homes the minute they signed papers not after 30 yrs No banks. Now companies are building apts & gated comunties ok more people get apts butthe recent US experience is an eye-opener it isa shaky solution for sound develop.
Another pain the terrible Student loans- any suggestion/solution from Ralph?
Before I came 2 US I heard of many great American things that defines American life mainly the laws that protect American citizens and their rights and the rights of consumers in every aspect of life and companies' transparency obligation. The American citizen seemed quite powerful! Later I was amazed to learn that many of the things that I admired as "American things" were in fact Nader-things! Or Nader -made possible through struggle along with the remarkable people who worked with him!!
i do think that this country is in desperate need of a new leader and a lot of change. i do not, however, believe that spending your hard earned tax money to bail people out of debt on homes that are oversized and full of crap made in china that you dont need is the right way to go. our taxes should go to bailing the country itself out of debt, building public transportation, green jobs so that people can afford things on their own, and national security
BUT: Nader would reallocate money from the over inflated military budget and tax speculators. He is the only candidate that has a firm understanding of how economics actually work. That is very important in this day and age. and somthing I dont see in politicians often.
Socialism for speculators. Another succinct Nader'ism. I put this right up there with removing any fuel efficiency pressure on auto makers and deregulating commodities investment. There is probably not one American alive who has not benefitted more from the work of Ralph Nader than from ANY politician elected in their lifetime. The greatest irony is to see criticism of this man be spoon-fed to the know-nothings of this generation and hear it repeated in true corporate yes-man fashion. Wake UP!
I'm as disappointed as you that Gravel is no longer running, but really, Nader is the best chance we have left right now and he's the ONLY major political candidate that has officially endorsed the National Initiative even if he doesn't speak about it very often. I will also be asking him to speak about this legislation.
Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater, huh?
I'm not disappointed. Mike himself said at the very beginning that the only reason he ran was to shed light on the national initiative. Well he did that but now nobody is picking up where he left off. I appreciate Nader and all he's done but he could be a very important asset to getting more people talking about it but he's not thats whats disappointing.
It's listed on his website as one of the "important issues of 2008". He certainly cares about the national initiative. While he doesn't name it specifically that often he does talk in great length about the need to give more power back to the people.
if it's on his website then how come he's never made a single video about it? I read the piece he wrote about it and it's very clear that he understands the idea. It's just disappointing that he's not making it the focus of this campaign. instead he's just chewing out Obama and McCain.
The shame of it all is that we call these people "homeowners," where they really are not. They are debtors: mortgage owners. The banks are greatly at fault, but a good deal of this can be attributed to the people spending what they don't have to buy what they don't need and cannot afford. This is simply a by-product of the sham known as the "American Dream." This will mark the end of suburbia (good riddance).
Well, yes and no. Wages are not keeping pace with inflation and the cost of living. I think a lot of people are using credit to pay for basic survival and ESPECIALLY medical care. This is the only industrialized nation where one can go bankrupt because of medical issues. This would never happen in France, Germany, England, Canada, Sweden, Denmark, etc.
I take issue with companies that pay their executives 100's of times what they pay the average employee even when the co. is losing $'s.
You are definitely correct about the medical care bankruptcies (though I believe the relative number of people in those situations to those fiscally irresponsible is large). We still have to recognize the underlying problems behind our current system, which goes back into our fundamental belief systems in the American Dream of excesses and our flawed monetary system (and military industrial complex and corporate welfare). Suburbia is a sham, and so is the American Dream. We must learn to swim.
the real problem is more basic--suburbia itself is the problem, or, you can say, the deeper-rooted problem.
1.gardens must replace yards, as lawnmowers are a huge needless waste of energy
2.farmer's markets must replace supermarkets
healthy mom-n-pops must replace toxic chain restaurants
3. PT must go "suburban"
4. the "housing crisis"is a mis-allocation of space problem--and by solving this directly, one doesn't need politics--just local, home-grown economies that live by their own policies.
The problem is that our society, lacking basic foresight, designed an entire society around waste. Its so entrenched in our infrastructure that extracting ourselves from it seems virtually impossible lacking a collapse on the scale of the Great Depression.
There was a study just released that said people who live in neighborhoods built in the 50's and earlier weigh less on average than people in newer subdivisions. This is because newer subdivisions were all built with the idea that people drive everywhere and are not neighborhood oriented. Older neighborhoods had amenities within walking distance, have sidewalks, etc. We need to return to this.
Ralph is on point as usual. There has NEVER been a better American. We could not ask for a better designated driver. Who would you trust more with your well being as it pertains to the law of the land and humanity? His qualities as a doer and a visionary make him the perfect LEADER. It's time to re raise the quality bar and get back on point for our quality of life and longevity... ( in my opinion ) GO NADER/GONZALEZ
It's true what Ralph has been saying since this never ending presidential pursuit started. There's little difference between the two parties and their reps. It's getting worse as we proceed toward the finale. McCain is heading to the center from the right and The Big O is going to the center from the left. They should be doing a mind meld by Nov 1st.
until we have proportional representation, we'll continue living in an oligarchy. never underestimate the delusion of the democrats. if each one i've heard say "but he wont win" voted for him, he'd win in a landslide.
Nader is the only guy who makes any sense anymore, even when he's talking ol line socialism. He can even make conservatives like me want him in the White House. I'm sick of the Republicans and the Democrats and I'm sick of illegal immigration. What is happening to my country cannot be allowed to continue.
No but seriously, i like Mader. He has done a lot of really great things. I don't agree with him on social issues but i think he's a much better choice then Obama. I think Nader addresses a lot of issues that both parties ignore
Nice Job Eliza Wren and Ralph Nader. I hope you can get ournationalspace to do a video with you. They always got something to say about the little peeps.
Great message. We need to get more people to hear what Ralph is saying. "Socialism for speculators" - that's exactly what it is, our tax dollars going to bail out rich people & corporations. It doesn't have to be that way.
I REALLY like this - but the words of the music interfere and detract from Ralph's words - lyrics need to be removed or WAY muted while Ralph is talking. Great song, but what Ralph is saying is far more interesting and important.
If it were not for UTUBE my candidate Ralph Nader would be a rare find. It is a shame
that the NEWS MEDIA doe not give equal time and attention to ALL PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES not just the Repulicans and Democrats. Mr Nader places the PEOPLE'S best interest first.
Nader has ideas and plans that should be heard by everyone-especially MC and O
It shows the disturbing truth about what actually happened in 2000. I'm so glad we have youtube now, which hopefully will not become censored like the media.
on the bailout for freddie mac n fannie mae - the only ones benefitted are the excessive pays n perks of their executives a
n not helping the people that are really caught in this mess x the banks make money irregardless w/ credit card interests n other loans - why not a moratorium or a one time fix for all to finance/refinance at a rate that would help everyone and still make a token profit for the banks until this housing problem/foreclosure stabilizes and things go back to normal
We could solve this crisis by pegging the sub primes at 3% above the Fed Rate and forgiving all penalties to date not to go below 6.25%, but as long as Washington waves bailouts of billions at the lenders why would agree to something fair in which not one dime of tax payer money would be needed..
Ralph, go after the Real Source of this problem: The FEDERAL RESERVE BANKING system. The Fed and the IRS need to be abolished. PLEASE PUT THIS ISSUE ON THE TABLE FRONT AND CENTER! You will get Ron Paul Supporters to vote for you. You always talk about how voters should make demands. Here is mine to you:
If Nader/Gonzalez does not put Abolishing the fraudulent Federal Reserve Banking System/IRS on the table then I will not vote for you. If you do, you've got a good chance.
a lot of conservative Ron Paul supporters share your view (he had many progressive supporters as well united on oreign poliy). I think it's great that you're making demands. You should all post a comment on Nader's youtube channel and e-mail the campaign to get get them to talk about this issue. That's how democracy in practise is suppossed to work.
Thanks for understanding 0613162k and I actually did send an email as well and they responded and said they'll pass it on. Thank you Karen!
As for all of those who gave me a -4 (and counting LOL), Ralph Nader always pushes voters to make demands. He would be the first to admit that he is not immune. I'm trying to HELP!! If he makes the FED/IRS an issue, HE WILL GET MORE PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR HIM! Sheesh!
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
If Nader was talking about empowering the people with the national initiative referendum then I'd be busting my ass for him. He's not though. instead he's just another meaningless voice complaining about our dictators. Like that's productive...
He does seem to endorse it now on his website, but I don't know why he doesn't talk about it much. You'd think a national initiative is something to cheer for.
How about that he's actually working to empower the people--not just 'talking' about it! i've heard him speak positively about having intiative referenda but i haven't looked to see if he's got a formal statement on it.
he officially endorsed Ni4D on a canadian television program. then he said it's a "backup plan" when he announced Gonzales as his running mate. whoever called my comment spam isn't very free speech motivated...
Go to Nader's youtube channel and post your suggestion of speaking about Ni4D on the youtube channel as they do read them. He's working through issue by issue, so perhaps doing a video that promotes Ni4D by saying he y will get the chance to vote on these issues. If people had the chance to vote they wouldn't vote for half the policies the Democat & republican corprate parties choose to spend their taxpayers money on just to get elected.
Keep trying. As Nader said in the Peace and Freedom convention, the only time the word democracy comes before the word work is in the dictionary. I'l e-mail the campaign as well to ask. If you could recruit more Gravel supporters in particular to place conditions on promoting this cause which fits into Nader's message of people needing to become citizen activists and needing to have more voice. It would be great if Nader/ Gonzalez and Gravel could have a joint event on this cause.
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chargerriv 3 years ago
This is a good song.
bobabooey01 3 years ago
I'm one of those "Middle Class Americans" in Foreclosure!
Modeltrainguy 3 years ago
The following is a list of YouTube subscriber totals for presidential candidates as of 8.16.08.
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agitcam 3 years ago 3
Unfortunately I can't vote for him, but I swear I would if I lived in the States. Just to dream of a different type of world.
7omnia7 3 years ago 6
Forclosure?
Blame elected leaders we voted for. Blame the CEO's that cut/outsource American Jobs in exchange for BIG Bonuses!
I refuse to blame foreclosures on the HomeBuyers.
Think about it. Did they REALLY buy a house/get a Mortgage they could NOT afford? Get sub-prime duped? Did anyone think companies paying enough to buy a house CAN turn around and cut jobs? Cut pay? CUT Overtime?
I BELIEVE that's exactly what's happened.
Remember the Overtime Law Bush struck down in 2004?
Modeltrainguy 3 years ago 6
If you HAVE a MySpace Page and/or Facebook, SEND videos like this one to as many friends as you can!
I send them as comments.
Do you have "Hi5"? The postings work there, too! I found out you must be sure to ad the person's name or something to each comment sent so it does not come off as spam.
Do ALL you can to get the word OUT!
Ralph Nader & Matt Gonzalez - 2008!
More Voices. More Choices.
Modeltrainguy 3 years ago 3
Cynthia McKinney is now the Green Party candidate and she supports a smaller government and decentralization.
Although I do not like ANY politicians, the politicians I have found who are truly for the people are the following.
Cynthia McKinney (Green Party), Mike Gravel (Libertarian), Ralph Nader (Independent) and maybe Ron Paul (Republican -- he wasn't a hypocrite, he was for the people but with his form of 'libertarianism', corporations would take control).
Amazing video, by the way.
KenCat1337 3 years ago 2
The rich look after their own, the rest of the 'herd' can go and look after themselves.
torpedodropkick 3 years ago
Thank you Youtube for adding this video to your Youchoose08 playlist on August 11th, 2008.
ArcticSlicer 3 years ago 2
We need a Nader fan video to the music of The Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again."
Try not to make it too CSI-Miami, people.
Chizpurfle52595 3 years ago
Forclosure?
Blame elected leaders we voted for. Blame the CEO's that cut/outsource American Jobs in exchange for BIG Bonuses!
I refuse to blame foreclosures on the HomeBuyers.
Think about it. Did they REALLY buy a house/get a Mortgage they could NOT afford? Get sub-prime duped? Did anyone think companies paying enough to buy a house CAN turn around and cut jobs? Cut pay? CUT Overtime?
I BELIEVE that's exactly what's happened.
Remember the Overtime Law Bush struck down in 2004?
Modeltrainguy 3 years ago 4
This is the year. It is time to change things. Let's get people to change their minds. It's going to take many many uncomfortable conversations. Have those conversations. It matters.
linuxmill 3 years ago
Vote how you feel, vote Nader!
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punmaw 3 years ago
both leave you with a bad taste in your mouth, and feeling a little sick to your stomach.
ymguy15 3 years ago 2
And leave toxins in your body so that you become sicker down the road.
DebbieKat 3 years ago
Comparing McCain and Obama is like comparing McDonald's and Burger King: Whichever one's better, neither is good for you.
jimlaregina 3 years ago 17
well said!
danthro 3 years ago
at senator salazars office they have pamphlets everywhere on sub prime bail out propaganda.
jacobpsweeney 3 years ago
how about the reality of taxes not being necessary, that includes backdoor taxes.
accountnotavailable 3 years ago
why don't we ask Penny Pritzker, Obama's national finance chairwoman and architect of subprime mortgages to bail us out?
vedicastrol 3 years ago 3
I still don't understand how the government can bail out the Banks.. & still poor people get made homeless!??
If the government 'BAILED' them out.. surely the 'poor people' (sub-prime) should have their mortgages paid off, from the Government bail out?!
If the 'bail out' left people in their homes you could understand it. But this way, bad decision making is 'guaranteed' NOT to lead to your corporation's going bust!
So now 'fraud', 'mismanagement' etc are all guaranteed by government funds!!!
ejbh3160 3 years ago 8
Not to mention it is we the taxpayer who are bailing out the corporations...
And, totally unrelated, but why the hell are we still giving corporate subsidies to the oil companies that made more in profits than any other company in history... ever? WHY? Our government is a sham and a failure.
DebbieKat 3 years ago
I wish you would prepare a 10 minute video of Nader with a summary of his approach to all issues and telling the voters why they should vote for him WITHOUT any distracting music.
His message is scattered in different interviews but it would be most helpful if it was summarized.
2. please put the transcripts of the interviews with Nader and Gonzales on votenader (dot) org
NaderGonzalez2008 3 years ago
Nader, as usual, is the only one who tells the truth. The Dems are doing nothing about helping Americans to keep their homes and their families together and just as in the joke fest they made out of the Impeachement proceedings, they couldn't care less. They are in DC for no other reason than to get their fair share of the under-the-table corporate kickback money.
Do not send incumbents back to DC.
BillSalem 3 years ago 8
Here in WA state, we just got our voter pamphlets. While my local house rep is pretty good, there are a few issues that I don't agree with him on. However, looking at the pamphlet, my only choice is him or a republican. I would definitely support new blood. But I'm NOT voting republican. We need to get more third party candidates RUNNING for smaller offices. It's going to be interesting here in WA with our new top 2 primary...
DebbieKat 3 years ago
or ron paul
joshfif 3 years ago
we are all to blame, greedy banks, government for not regulating, deceitful loan officers and consumers for being uneducated... and greedy too, let's not forget the swarms of people who bought homes they could not afford...
speedy0307 3 years ago
truth
righteouspolitics80 3 years ago
Trust me, Nader has been raising enough money. He kicked butt up in northern California this weekend. He cleaned house. I'm with you on the Democrats comment. they should be beating McCain's ass. Instead Obama is adopting his positions. Nader's 6 percent has nowhere to go but up.
aposamaras 3 years ago
I am 34. I have never voted for a Democrat in my life, but I am planning to vote for Nader right now. Given the corporate control of the government, the first thing we need today is honest person. Given our economic predicament, we need a brilliant one. Nader is the only one running who fits either of those descriptions.
pkpdjh 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Right, VOTE NADER and make sure the Repugs win this election just like Ralph did for Bush Jr.
Ever notice how Nader doesn't talk much about all the funding he gets from 'conservatives'?
127dotODotOdotOne 3 years ago
You. Must. Be. Kidding. All the funding? All the funding! The guy can't raise enough money to buy gas to keep his bus running. And if the Democrats can't win without the measly 6% that Nader is going to draw, they deserve to lose to that psychopath, warmonger McCain.
localhero101 3 years ago 2
Sounds like your not voting for anybody at all, since you just put down all the parties involved in running for presidency in some way. The reason Nader asks for donations from his public supporters (in case you haven't read his platform), is because he wants honest money from honest people. Not scumbag CEO's who are looking for future "favors" like the other 2. He doesn't doesn't want to dirty his lips by sucking corporate ass.
ross1323 3 years ago
No, you miss my point. I was just replying to the dope who said that Nader raises a bunch of money from "conservatives." Nader is the only guy I would even consider voting for.
localhero101 3 years ago
Oh, I didn't realize you were responding to someone else's criticisms. Umm, er, uh, What I meant to say was, "you rock!" Keep it up! Nader in 08! Yeah, that's what I meant! haha!
ross1323 3 years ago
These adds are so weird
Aiursrage2k 3 years ago
This discussion confirms that Nader is raising the SERIOUS issues of great concern to many. We NEED to hear from him in a public debate. I can not believe that there are rules that deprive us from just that!
sunny4ever247 3 years ago 2
Actually, we might get to see Nader in the Google debates. Check out this video for more information on how you can help: watch?v=qLYyAh1BDtE
smartgirl63 3 years ago
agree- we incorrectly refer to homeowners as owners: this system of fake ownership is a phenomena that has been adopted and emerging in countries where traditionally most people really owned their homes the minute they signed papers not after 30 yrs No banks. Now companies are building apts & gated comunties ok more people get apts butthe recent US experience is an eye-opener it isa shaky solution for sound develop.
Another pain the terrible Student loans- any suggestion/solution from Ralph?
sunny4ever247 3 years ago
Before I came 2 US I heard of many great American things that defines American life mainly the laws that protect American citizens and their rights and the rights of consumers in every aspect of life and companies' transparency obligation. The American citizen seemed quite powerful! Later I was amazed to learn that many of the things that I admired as "American things" were in fact Nader-things! Or Nader -made possible through struggle along with the remarkable people who worked with him!!
sunny4ever247 3 years ago 2
but i did nonetheless give this video a 5 star because i hate mccain and am a bit shaky on obama
beachdood2 3 years ago
i do think that this country is in desperate need of a new leader and a lot of change. i do not, however, believe that spending your hard earned tax money to bail people out of debt on homes that are oversized and full of crap made in china that you dont need is the right way to go. our taxes should go to bailing the country itself out of debt, building public transportation, green jobs so that people can afford things on their own, and national security
beachdood2 3 years ago
BUT: Nader would reallocate money from the over inflated military budget and tax speculators. He is the only candidate that has a firm understanding of how economics actually work. That is very important in this day and age. and somthing I dont see in politicians often.
djgiga 3 years ago 4
Socialism for speculators. Another succinct Nader'ism. I put this right up there with removing any fuel efficiency pressure on auto makers and deregulating commodities investment. There is probably not one American alive who has not benefitted more from the work of Ralph Nader than from ANY politician elected in their lifetime. The greatest irony is to see criticism of this man be spoon-fed to the know-nothings of this generation and hear it repeated in true corporate yes-man fashion. Wake UP!
StratusBlue 3 years ago
how am I ignorant when I'm the only person here commenting about revolutionary legislation that will give us the right to make laws? stupid.
oldhacks 3 years ago
I'm as disappointed as you that Gravel is no longer running, but really, Nader is the best chance we have left right now and he's the ONLY major political candidate that has officially endorsed the National Initiative even if he doesn't speak about it very often. I will also be asking him to speak about this legislation.
Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater, huh?
DebbieKat 3 years ago 2
I'm not disappointed. Mike himself said at the very beginning that the only reason he ran was to shed light on the national initiative. Well he did that but now nobody is picking up where he left off. I appreciate Nader and all he's done but he could be a very important asset to getting more people talking about it but he's not thats whats disappointing.
oldhacks 3 years ago
It's listed on his website as one of the "important issues of 2008". He certainly cares about the national initiative. While he doesn't name it specifically that often he does talk in great length about the need to give more power back to the people.
ArcticSlicer 3 years ago
if it's on his website then how come he's never made a single video about it? I read the piece he wrote about it and it's very clear that he understands the idea. It's just disappointing that he's not making it the focus of this campaign. instead he's just chewing out Obama and McCain.
oldhacks 3 years ago
The shame of it all is that we call these people "homeowners," where they really are not. They are debtors: mortgage owners. The banks are greatly at fault, but a good deal of this can be attributed to the people spending what they don't have to buy what they don't need and cannot afford. This is simply a by-product of the sham known as the "American Dream." This will mark the end of suburbia (good riddance).
mindtraveler2350 3 years ago
Well, yes and no. Wages are not keeping pace with inflation and the cost of living. I think a lot of people are using credit to pay for basic survival and ESPECIALLY medical care. This is the only industrialized nation where one can go bankrupt because of medical issues. This would never happen in France, Germany, England, Canada, Sweden, Denmark, etc.
I take issue with companies that pay their executives 100's of times what they pay the average employee even when the co. is losing $'s.
DebbieKat 3 years ago 2
You are definitely correct about the medical care bankruptcies (though I believe the relative number of people in those situations to those fiscally irresponsible is large). We still have to recognize the underlying problems behind our current system, which goes back into our fundamental belief systems in the American Dream of excesses and our flawed monetary system (and military industrial complex and corporate welfare). Suburbia is a sham, and so is the American Dream. We must learn to swim.
mindtraveler2350 3 years ago
This is a great video. I have never heard Nader lie, say anything deceitful or misleading.
He would surely make the best President out of all the current candidates including Bob Barr and Ron Paul.
The only one better would be Kucinich or a Kucinich/Nader ticket.
rodneykingman 3 years ago 6
Or Gravel. :-)
DebbieKat 3 years ago
and BTW, the "evil executives" would be nowhere without the "home-owning consumers"
consumers! take responsibility for your actions and your transactions!
Ralph, it takes two to tango--you got my vote.
abcrane 3 years ago 2
the real problem is more basic--suburbia itself is the problem, or, you can say, the deeper-rooted problem.
1.gardens must replace yards, as lawnmowers are a huge needless waste of energy
2.farmer's markets must replace supermarkets
healthy mom-n-pops must replace toxic chain restaurants
3. PT must go "suburban"
4. the "housing crisis"is a mis-allocation of space problem--and by solving this directly, one doesn't need politics--just local, home-grown economies that live by their own policies.
abcrane 3 years ago 3
The problem is that our society, lacking basic foresight, designed an entire society around waste. Its so entrenched in our infrastructure that extracting ourselves from it seems virtually impossible lacking a collapse on the scale of the Great Depression.
eirefrance 3 years ago 2
There was a study just released that said people who live in neighborhoods built in the 50's and earlier weigh less on average than people in newer subdivisions. This is because newer subdivisions were all built with the idea that people drive everywhere and are not neighborhood oriented. Older neighborhoods had amenities within walking distance, have sidewalks, etc. We need to return to this.
DebbieKat 3 years ago 2
I agree. I chose to live in a city for that very reason.
eirefrance 3 years ago
yes, but cities have their problems too:
1) food-producing gardens must replace parks
2)farmers markets must be promoted much more, thru incentives and what-not
3) junk food chains and liquor stores need to be replaced by health food stores and co-ops
4) housing situation needs scientific monitoring and sustainable improvements
abcrane 3 years ago
Ralph is on point as usual. There has NEVER been a better American. We could not ask for a better designated driver. Who would you trust more with your well being as it pertains to the law of the land and humanity? His qualities as a doer and a visionary make him the perfect LEADER. It's time to re raise the quality bar and get back on point for our quality of life and longevity... ( in my opinion ) GO NADER/GONZALEZ
thankgodcpa 3 years ago 7
It's true what Ralph has been saying since this never ending presidential pursuit started. There's little difference between the two parties and their reps. It's getting worse as we proceed toward the finale. McCain is heading to the center from the right and The Big O is going to the center from the left. They should be doing a mind meld by Nov 1st.
bergiebits 3 years ago 4
until we have proportional representation, we'll continue living in an oligarchy. never underestimate the delusion of the democrats. if each one i've heard say "but he wont win" voted for him, he'd win in a landslide.
brainsplatty 3 years ago 5
They said the same about Kucinich and Gravel too. :-(
DebbieKat 3 years ago
Nader is the only guy who makes any sense anymore, even when he's talking ol line socialism. He can even make conservatives like me want him in the White House. I'm sick of the Republicans and the Democrats and I'm sick of illegal immigration. What is happening to my country cannot be allowed to continue.
swampfoxh 3 years ago 4
He's got my vote!!! Down with the two party rip-off system!!
Photobizgal 3 years ago 7
GO NADER!!!!!
; D
JohnnyMccain2008 3 years ago 4
No but seriously, i like Mader. He has done a lot of really great things. I don't agree with him on social issues but i think he's a much better choice then Obama. I think Nader addresses a lot of issues that both parties ignore
JohnnyMccain2008 3 years ago
charming, McInsane! We need to break the 2 party system, this country is suffering.
Bunkie0913 3 years ago 4
great message, thanks
tandyroyal 3 years ago 3
Ralph Nader is a true American heroe.
Quit your "party mentality" and use your OWN friggin' brain!
greglawrence 3 years ago 8
top job
velcroFathoms 3 years ago 2
Nice Job Eliza Wren and Ralph Nader. I hope you can get ournationalspace to do a video with you. They always got something to say about the little peeps.
1musichombre 3 years ago
i love ralphand the video, but the music definitely isn't good for this
owitunao 3 years ago
nice music. It's sad to think of so many people losing their houses.
suff1107 3 years ago 2
Banal music, boring images, Nader's important words badly echoed. Altogether poor piece of work.
robchogan 3 years ago
Great message. We need to get more people to hear what Ralph is saying. "Socialism for speculators" - that's exactly what it is, our tax dollars going to bail out rich people & corporations. It doesn't have to be that way.
Uber99 3 years ago 5
I've been waiting for Nader to reference the Glass-Stiegel Act.
THERE IT IS!
PeaceCzar 3 years ago 5
Great video!
NaderGonzalez08 3 years ago 2
I REALLY like this - but the words of the music interfere and detract from Ralph's words - lyrics need to be removed or WAY muted while Ralph is talking. Great song, but what Ralph is saying is far more interesting and important.
dhyannag 3 years ago
GREAT VIDEO-LOVE THE MUSIC TOO
If it were not for UTUBE my candidate Ralph Nader would be a rare find. It is a shame
that the NEWS MEDIA doe not give equal time and attention to ALL PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES not just the Repulicans and Democrats. Mr Nader places the PEOPLE'S best interest first.
Nader has ideas and plans that should be heard by everyone-especially MC and O
knotart 3 years ago 3
Yep. Those of us who supported Kucinich, Gravel and Paul are already very familiar with the media blackout...
DebbieKat 3 years ago
@ DebbieKat,
Watch youtube video entitled:
"Could this happen to Ron Paul"
It shows the disturbing truth about what actually happened in 2000. I'm so glad we have youtube now, which hopefully will not become censored like the media.
0613162k 3 years ago 2
on the bailout for freddie mac n fannie mae - the only ones benefitted are the excessive pays n perks of their executives a
n not helping the people that are really caught in this mess x the banks make money irregardless w/ credit card interests n other loans - why not a moratorium or a one time fix for all to finance/refinance at a rate that would help everyone and still make a token profit for the banks until this housing problem/foreclosure stabilizes and things go back to normal
robar614 3 years ago 4
Good idea and video but dump the music. It's awful.
Go Ralph!
giugiu57 3 years ago
We could solve this crisis by pegging the sub primes at 3% above the Fed Rate and forgiving all penalties to date not to go below 6.25%, but as long as Washington waves bailouts of billions at the lenders why would agree to something fair in which not one dime of tax payer money would be needed..
Simple as that...
TJTele52 3 years ago 2
No McBama -
Go Nader/Gonzalez '08
megsk8r 3 years ago 7
Ralph, go after the Real Source of this problem: The FEDERAL RESERVE BANKING system. The Fed and the IRS need to be abolished. PLEASE PUT THIS ISSUE ON THE TABLE FRONT AND CENTER! You will get Ron Paul Supporters to vote for you. You always talk about how voters should make demands. Here is mine to you:
If Nader/Gonzalez does not put Abolishing the fraudulent Federal Reserve Banking System/IRS on the table then I will not vote for you. If you do, you've got a good chance.
8DoverNJ 3 years ago
a lot of conservative Ron Paul supporters share your view (he had many progressive supporters as well united on oreign poliy). I think it's great that you're making demands. You should all post a comment on Nader's youtube channel and e-mail the campaign to get get them to talk about this issue. That's how democracy in practise is suppossed to work.
0613162k 3 years ago
Thanks for understanding 0613162k and I actually did send an email as well and they responded and said they'll pass it on. Thank you Karen!
As for all of those who gave me a -4 (and counting LOL), Ralph Nader always pushes voters to make demands. He would be the first to admit that he is not immune. I'm trying to HELP!! If he makes the FED/IRS an issue, HE WILL GET MORE PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR HIM! Sheesh!
Movies on the FED:
Money As Debt
The Money Masters
Freedom to Fascism
8DoverNJ 3 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
If Nader was talking about empowering the people with the national initiative referendum then I'd be busting my ass for him. He's not though. instead he's just another meaningless voice complaining about our dictators. Like that's productive...
oldhacks 3 years ago
He does seem to endorse it now on his website, but I don't know why he doesn't talk about it much. You'd think a national initiative is something to cheer for.
Whoo69 3 years ago
How about that he's actually working to empower the people--not just 'talking' about it! i've heard him speak positively about having intiative referenda but i haven't looked to see if he's got a formal statement on it.
danthro 3 years ago
he officially endorsed Ni4D on a canadian television program. then he said it's a "backup plan" when he announced Gonzales as his running mate. whoever called my comment spam isn't very free speech motivated...
oldhacks 3 years ago
Go to Nader's youtube channel and post your suggestion of speaking about Ni4D on the youtube channel as they do read them. He's working through issue by issue, so perhaps doing a video that promotes Ni4D by saying he y will get the chance to vote on these issues. If people had the chance to vote they wouldn't vote for half the policies the Democat & republican corprate parties choose to spend their taxpayers money on just to get elected.
0613162k 3 years ago
I have a million times already.
oldhacks 3 years ago
Keep trying. As Nader said in the Peace and Freedom convention, the only time the word democracy comes before the word work is in the dictionary. I'l e-mail the campaign as well to ask. If you could recruit more Gravel supporters in particular to place conditions on promoting this cause which fits into Nader's message of people needing to become citizen activists and needing to have more voice. It would be great if Nader/ Gonzalez and Gravel could have a joint event on this cause.
0613162k 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
i think Nader may just be too arrogant
oldhacks 3 years ago
So true.
schooltrashers 3 years ago 4