Tiananmen Square 20 Years Later: Human Rights in China

[DarkprinX2500]

American hypocrisy at it's finest

[dycarbon1]

Tiananmen-->stable country, stable economy, fast growing cities, better lives for the people

No Tiananmen-->revolt, government overthrown, anarchy, civil war for decades on-end, no economic development, people lead shit lives.

[FalunGongIsAmazing]

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[valjean03]

Wait a minute

You're arguing that there is instability and people who are corrupt.....

So your solution is bringing in giving them rights to speak out, form unions and.... revolt? And that will bring peace in stability when they want to in-stabilize the government? Bring in corrupt people into the government?

Then why don't we let the US Tea party be in charge of the government.....

Fat chance......

[colourmegone]

Try forming a labour union in Taiwan, minimum sentence 14 years in prison; or even in the US, where you can be fired with impugnity for attempting to organise. Not to mention most south American and Asian states. In fact I rather doubt that there are many people organising in the Middle East either. China is just one country among many and lowering worker costs is one of capitalism's main aims.

[marumito]

it doesn't matter which crimes is more hideous wether its the west's crimes or the east... A CRIME is A CRIME & we shud all talk about it, get involve & solve these CRIMES so we can built a better place & world to live in.... Peace cannot be achieved thru the force of armed conflicts... WE SHUD ALL TALK about THESE PROBLEMS & find WAY to SOLVE them..

[CLORIANN]

China has the all problems that a developping country should have,,, with the big economy rising, the problems comes more Obvious. BUT it is FAR as a lot of people thinking, in fact many people have NOT read any CHINESE HISTORY. DONT talk more about CHINESE HUMAN RIGHTS plz,,,, u do not know it, u heart from the media which is against China. The vedio u see is BEEN CUT. MOST CHINESE LIKES THEIR LIFE includes all racing.

[MrJellyfishinthesea]

this guy does get points. and now Google is about pulling out from china mainland. the censorship of internet is getting more and more serious. what is the positive progress of human right in china???

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

The internet has changed the world including China. Falun Gong have designed software to get around the "Golden Shield" (or internet censorship).

So Chinese in China can assess information from around the world as long as they keep their software up to date.

The communist party can't stop the flow of information now, so it is doomed.

[lolozai91]

@ChinaKillsTibetans In the 80s, "Mad Dog" Qaddafi leader of Libya military government, famous for killing anyone who oppose him, thus the nickname Mad Dog, killed 14 infidel as recorded by International Human Rights group, yet at the same time, USA supported El Salvador in its regime for 7 month periods which resulted in 50 thousand death. Well o.o how come some country so free of human rights like USA done such thing o.o yet without any punishment??

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

The communist party began invading the independent country of Tibet in 1949 and Tibet is STILL being LOOTED in 2010.

[lolozai91]

o.o i do not agree about that since tibet had long since proved to be part of china.

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

The communist invaders who began invading Tibet in 1949 wanted the 17 point agreement to be signed between the countries of Tibet and China in 1951.

So Tibet is an INVADED and occupied country.

[lolozai91]

@MrJellyfishinthesea are they out of china yet???

nahhh dont think they will.. you think they REALLY care about human right?? all they care is profit and everyone knew Us government is behind manipulating this event....lolzz google think china would even beg them not to leave the industry....

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

The US government struggles to run the US properly. They subsidise businesses like oil companies (which promotes wastage and carbon emissions) and agricultural commodities (which is a disaster for farmers around the world who don't have their governments giving them handouts).

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

Tibetans say things are getting worse not better. East Turkestan doesn't look good to me. And 70+ million Falun Gong in China have lost at least some of their freedom since 1999.

Free East Turkestan, Tibet, South Mongolia and China from the brutal and corrupt communist party

[lolozai91]

@ChinaKillsTibetans Let compare this to USA "Good Deeds". In the 70s alone, USA government aided the military government of Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador causing lose of many lives. In 1975, Indonesia invaded East Timor under the support of US government secretary of state Henry Kissinger which causes around 200 thousand death in 3 weeks.

[lolozai91]

@ChinaKillsTibetans Isnt USA more corrupted?? For decades they break and ignore international rules and regulations such as after the incident of 911, USA increase the production of nuclear,biochemical weapon yet rejected the inspection of their weapon factory from the International organization. Let see alone how many war have USA intercepted alone in the past century as compare to China....you will see the difference.

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

Do you know much about the Corruption Perceptions Index 2009 ?

NZ score 9.4 rank 1

Hong Kong score 8.2 rank 8

Japan score 7.7 rank 17=

United Kingdom 7.7 rank 17=

United States score 7.5 rank 19

China score 3.6 rank 79

[lolozai91]

and so what does this prove?? if you want to prove China is as corrupted as it is. fine with me. but my main issue is the different perception towards USA and China. I agree USA is not as corrupted compare to China. But everyone know do they even obey international law anymore?? they break the promise with the China government with the treaty sign 30 years ago which stat no form of military weapon shall be sold...and they never obey it once..so is that counted as corrupted?

[lolozai91]

so now if you say tibet should be independant....let's give some reason why it shall be??

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

Some of the places who have recognised Tibet as a COUNTRY and when include

China (821/823, 1890, 1908, 1914, 1918, 1951)

Ladakh (1684, 1842)

Kashmir (1852)

Nepal (1856)

Great Britain (1890, 1904, 1908, 1914)

Mongolia (1913)

Free Tibet, East Turkestan, South Mongolia, Falun Gong and China

[Liuyifeng19]

@ChinaKillsTibetans yeah visit tibet and see all of the things that us say is wrong

[HumanRightsVideosT]

@Liuyifeng19

please watch

China's Brutality in Tibet EXPOSED !

(7:37 minutes)

watch?v=PqjC9Wa3sxE

but be warned it’s not easy to watch.

[lolozai91]

@ChinaKillsTibetans my point is not to somehow protect China in terms of human right, yet powerful country like USA doesnt get the blame for all their so called "protecting human right" deeds they done. So practically i see double standard existed in this matter.

[ChinaKillsTibetans]

Have you heard of diego garcia ?

[Idude893]

Hearing about all the human rights violations here in Hong Kong from Mainland China, I really doubt that China has changed the least since the last decade.

[russiangymfan]

Why do Chinese have to live in the past? While Chinese people are focusing on the current and looking forward to the future, some westerners love to live in the cold war period, or even dream in those old good west colonist days.

[TheDemonPazuzu]

I am a retired out Correctional Officer and a friend of mine who viewed this video asked, "What does an American have to do to get arrested like the Chinese do and what does it mean?"

The answer is: any damned thing they want it to mean.

Like my old friend FBI Special Agent Richard Goldberg once told me, "We can get you Americans any time we want. It's just a matter of finding the right law to fit the situation."

[suzhouhe]

I'll see your law enforcement friends and raise you my journalist and lawyer friends. In an open society, protections for free speech and the free flow of information enables oversight of groups and individuals who would abuse their power (like arrogant FBI agents). No, the system isn't perfect, but at least a system exists. That's something that isn't possible in China. There's the difference.

[TheDemonPazuzu]

But Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Now, you are supposed to be correct and you are in theory, but in practice we have lost countless rights since 9/11 and the war in Iraq. Countless rights.

[suzhouhe]

True, but it's also the case that many rights compromised in the wake of 9/11 have already been restored through the appropriate judicial and legislative processes, and many that haven't are currently working their way through the system. Certainly some will take years to recover, but don't discount progress when it's made.

[suzhouhe]

US history is full of instances where rule of law, supported by an alert media and active citizenry, have led justice to trump corruption and abuses of power. Watergate, Pentagon Papers, and the repeal of Adams' Alien and Sedition acts are a few examples off the top of my head. Nothing comparable to those actions would be possible in today's China.

Civil rights in this country has been an ongoing process, but surely you can agree that the overall struggle has been a positive one.

[TheDemonPazuzu]

No offense, but you are very naive.

[suzhouhe]

Optimism is not equivalent to naivety, just as cynicism is not equivalent to wisdom.

[freesk8]

The image is burned on my mind...

I will never forget the photo from about 6/4/89 of one man, standing in front of a column of tanks, blocking their progress.

This individual is a hero.

His brave action must never be forgotten.

One individual can inspire billions of others to fight for liberty and individual rights.

[ArcaneKarma]

I remember than well, they call him "tank man" in the media.

[Matchu80]

While my information on China after the cultural revolution is limited, what you say is very true, FRT.

[FRTothus]

Americans are quick to criticize others, to highlight the crimes of others, and hold them up to a scrutiny that is never applied to themselves. This is the very definition of hypocrisy. China's crimes are nothing when compared to the crimes of the US, the world's leading and most dangerous terrorist state. The US invades weaker countries at will, supports ruthless tyrants the world over, and destroys democracies which dare put the welfare of their own people before US elite investors.

[sweetysweetycat]

agreed.

[mkruo]

well said, FRT.

[suzhouhe]

The guy in the video is Ken Roth. Yes, he is an American. He is also director of Human Rights Watch, an international organization concerned with advocacy and promotion of human rights around the globe. If anyone is in a position to criticize China's position on these issues, it's Roth - just as he's criticized the US government for Guantanamo, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

[tung2sai]

Well said, suzhouhe

...unfortunantly, all these justified criticisms gets clouded (on purpose or unintentional mis-judgement) with those who are criticizing with particular agendas and questionable motives. Plus, the limits being imposed on the availability of information, in a sense, many people lose.

[spartacandream]

@FRTothus Americans? Only the blind patriots. Not all americans. Most americans are sick of what their government is pulling, and will criticise regardless of whether its the chinese government or their own.

Watch my videos, you'll know what I'm talking about. I do criticise it alot.