Before thousands years bulgarian mans Odin(Adin/Edin), Perun and Valhala went at this nordest people and their teachers were.On the Balkan IS "ARIA" first humman civilization Ura-Ara / Bulgar "BULGARIA"
All Slaves is skandynavian tribes (Serbs/Slovens/Chez/Polaks/Rusians/Belorusians/Ukraines) whu leave thousands of years around Bulgaria (Aria)"Balkans" and have learned to speak broken Bulgarian language. For modern Bulgarian language have information on more 8 000 years Here on the Balkan and Anatolia.
Ancient bulgarian ritual SURVA comes from deep hystory bu to day Here on the Balkans and Anatolia part of New years celabrations.We the most Big ethnitical population of this area and we ceep traditions more from 200 000years!
Bulgarians, Croatians and Serbians - South Slavs are Iranians with East-Itanian(Avestian/Skhytian) language.
The modern Croatian and Serbian scholars tell this! And there are a lot facts about Sarmatian orgin of Bulgars. The Croatian name is from Zoroastrism - Harvavat!
and you start to read Petur Dobre. Петър Добрев. I know what to read. There is not only one theory, and thats the good thing. And if you look for Bulgarian origin in Volga Bulgaria, than you really dont have idea of history. Because the origin of Bulgaria is from ''Balhara'' and Volga Bulgaria was the first Bulgarian country in Europe, but befor that, and after that we have other countries. In Balhara was the origin, and that was more than 8 centuries befor turks come there.
d. I don´t understand how ppl chose one aspect and ignore the rest of the history. You cannot pick things only which you like.
I see you don´t listen what people say. I say again, in Hungarian/Madjar there were a lot of Proto-Bulgarian loanwords, which are NOT Iranian. I tired of brainwashed pepople with this Dobrev theory. This is only a thesis a speculation. NOT ANY PROVE. Even the Bulgarian associated professor at Gothenburg University critiziced him. She is linguist, Dobrev is NOT.
f. You talk about new proves and Volga Bulgarians. Well, don´t read second hand information, but read it directly. I can give you the adress for the original book. Besides, there never can be new proves, because the initial and most true information was already written in old annals, etc. What can be new, is additional information that was kept in secrecy or oblivion (on purpose or not on purpose).
g. I found hidden information already in the beginnng of the 90´s and the new information (Tarihi, etc) just confirms that now, what I have found previously. What you need in you society, is to have real and Patriotic researchers and BUDITELI. There were not such in communistic time, so you are just starting.
h. I don´t know what shit they spread in your schools, but Khazars were Bulgars who spoke same langage. Khazar is not ethnic name. Same goes for Scythians, Huns, Alans, etc.
i. There never existed Bulgaro-Slavic history, but it is called ONLY Bulgarian (because there was no Slavic mayority of significance). Look at the 1:st edition of P. Hilendarski´s history book. It says Bulgarian (ONLY in singular). If you se other version IT IS FALSIFIED!!!
j. I read Dobrevs books and I se he proves NOTHING. I am not interesting in his speculations anymore. He use separate words /ethymology, First you must know what language is. Dobrev seems not knowing what language is.
k. My God, dude, please do not talk CRAP. I know what was the 1:st Bulgar state and origin. It is URALIC REGION from 15 000 BC! From there they moved to Northern India, Mongolia (was a part of Bulgar Empire), C. Asia, Siberia,Turkestan, Near East, Anatolia, Balkan, Apennines, Manchuria, Bactria, Egypt, Sumer/Mesopotamia, Carpathian basin, Central Europe, etc. Bactria was just ONE of them - a busstation. Who the fuck lies to you?! They are lost in the forest and don´t know how to read books.
l. Djagfar Tarihi (Volga Bulgarian annals) NEVER said that Bulgarian origin is from Bactria.
Bulgarians were even before in North to China (Mongolia) - one of the most ancient Bulgar territories.
Additional information. Tarihi is collection from the most oldest Bulgarian annals and contain information from the Greatest libraries like in Constantinople and Vatikan.
m. Concerning new theories and proves. My is best, and you should read it when I am finished with my book about The Great and Magnificent History of the Bulgarian people. Dobrev´s history is just one of the Fragments attempted by limited authors my is wide and the WHOLE. From the very beginning, the middle and the last.
For some things you are right ( about TUrkish nation) but other theory is madness... Turks really dont come from Bulgarians. I answered it below. And .....man where do you get this information from ?? cuz i graduated Sofia University - Theory and History of Culture which is Alot History, Culture, Philosophy and even some linguistic. and this is the first time i heard about this crazy theory. And i know my information from the source... people who right the books.
a. You don´t read true history at your schools, and your payed historians or researchers must follow what authorities say and the polic climate. Secondly, the true information is still kept away from the Bulgarian ppl a legacy from communistic time and Pan-Slavic time. Most important is, that they still lie to your ppl that Slavs absorbed Proto-Bulgarians, therefore you are Slavic. What a CRAP! Don´t read anti-Bulgarians like Zlatarski, M. Drinov, Irechek, D. Angelov and some others.
b. My sources independent not payed lakeys. The most realiable source is Volga Bulgarian Medieval not communistic and Pan-Slavic. Homatian, Rakovski, the 1:st edition of Paisii´s history are OK.
Read!!! Hristo Madjarov, Veselin Iliev, Gantcho Tsenov (against imaginary Slavic theory), Djagfar Tarihi (Volga Bulgarian), Dr. Guide. Don´t listen to anti-Bulgarians they have even infiltrated BAN. Since you study, you should read all available books. True science is not prejudiced.
c. Even Turkish prof. Eröz proved that Turks descend from Bulgars and was killed by fanatics. But the truth cannot be killed! I should be more clear. I did not say they were direct descendants from Kubrats Bulgars. Bulgars were many and widespread, with different tribes and clans. For ex, 1/3 of the Northern hemisphere have Bulgarian blood. If you mean Kubrats Bulgars, then it is different.
Sorry, man, but there is no evidence that Bulgars were Iranian. But all serious linguists know that Bulgar was Türkic strongly Iranized. Bulgars were true Scythians (Scythians spoke non indoeuropean) who later mixed with Sarmatians.
In bulgarian language we have a thousands word with direct avestian and old-iranian roots! Many of this words in modern times we can find only in bulgarian and east-iranian languages!
In proto-bulgarian language we have only 15-20 words with turkic roots!!!
Тhе Scythians spoke indoeuropean - iranian/aryan language! Тhе Scythians inhabit indoeuropean steps 2000 years before invasion of turks(400-500 AC)!
- Linguistists say it is Iranized Proto-Türkic (Altaic). Even my teacher (she is not old and did fresh studies) who is linguist at the University is convinced of the Türkic version. Anyhow, Bulgars were Scythians and real Scythians did not speak indo-european. And that is for sure. Though, I believe that Bulgars were everywhere and Pamirian region is one of Bulgar several states. Sorry, but it is not been proven that Bulgars were initially Iranians. It is just thesis.
The Scythians or Scyths[1] (Greek: Σκύθες, Σκύθοι) were an East Iranian speaking people of horse-riding nomadic pastoralists[2][3] who dominated the Pontic steppe throughout Classical Antiquity. By Late Antiquity the closely-related Sarmatians came to dominate the Scyths in this area.
- According to Herodotos and Hippocrates (in his work About lands, water and air) Scythians were of Mongolian origin. Scythian = "bow shooter". There were pastoralists, even Greeks among them, so what? Scythian way up to Turkestan, Alatj..., was populated by "bow shooters / worriors".
The Scythian language and its various dialects formed part of the Indo-European language-family. The personal names found in the contemporary Greek literary and epigraphic texts suggest that the language of the Scythians and the Sarmatians (who spoke a dialect of Scythian according to Hist. 4.117 Herodotus) belonged to the Northeast Iranian branch. An alternative theory suggests that at least some Scythian tribes, such as the Meotians (Sindi), spoke Indo-Aryan dialects.
- Ancient sources said nothing about the language, as fas as I know, but about the origin.
- The Turk type of the Scythian-Sarmat language is testified by many names of Sarmat leaders mentioned by Roman historians Tacitus, Ammianus Marcellinus and others. The language of Scythians is known almost exclusively by the personal names, among which both Turk and Iranian words are met.
do you realise that turks come centuries after Bulgarians. And also Bulgarians are much older people than Turks??? also do you realise that we have turkish words in our language because we were 500 slaved, not because we are turks. And btw i speaked with some turkish friends, from Turkey, and asked for all this words, for 70% OF THEM he didnt know the meaning...... explain me this. how come you know so much about Bulgarian??? Are you one of thos waiting for BG passport lol MONKEYDONIAN ???
A. Are you one of thos waiting for BG passport lol MONKEYDONIAN ???
No. I am not Macedonian, nor I am waiting for Bulgarian passport. I have Swedish passport since the 80´s, and before Polish. When I lived in Bulgaria and finished there highschool, I had Polish passport.
B. It is established by mayority that Proto-Bulgarian was Altaic. This is not hypotheses or speculation, but a strong theory. I personally talked to Volga Bulgarian historians, and they tald me that their forefathers (Bulgars) spoke Turkish (Altaic). My Bulgarian associated professor in linguistics at the Gothenburg University, who also cooperate with the Bulgarian University, is convinced that Proto-Bulgarians spoke Altaic, etc.
yes you are right IT IS ONE OF THE THEORIES. But there are more theories, new with better proofs. And to inform you that Volga Bulgars really speak that. Because there were conquered by Hazars. But also they kept the Bulgarians words too. But Danube Bulgarians speak a mix of proto-Bulgarians(which is not turkic)Thrakian and Slavinian. And the alphabet is not called Slavinian but ''SlavianoBulgarska'' which means Both Slavinian and Bulgarian.
C. Besides that, Volga Bulgarian Medieval sources anonced that long before we were born. And don´t forget that one of Khan Kubrats sons created modern Volga Bulgarian Empire and they spoke Altaic. Just don´t tell me that in your family, your boethers and sisters speak different languages.
Yes, Bulgarians are oldest I never said otherwise. Bulgarians do not descend from Turks, but all Turkic people descend from ancient Bulgars. It is the opposite big diffrence.
LOL man you are so wrong. Turks dont come from Bulgarians. We have different language,culture,religion, even we look different. Also Kubrats Bulgarians were speaking BULGARIAN, which is not anything but Bulgarian, which is from Iranian Type of languages. We still use alot of this words. Some people say we have alot turkish words, but the true is we have much more proto-Bulgarian words than Turkish (Hungarians have much more turkish words than us, you know how Hungarian language sounds..)
Pelasgians spoke Türkic ancient dialect, so was Homeros work - it was not written in Greek.
To make it easier, ancient Türkic was born in Anatolian Thrace (There was Balkan Thrace and Anatolian Thrace. As a matter of fact, there is also a region in Volga Bulgaria called Thrace and a village Thrace. There are definitely connections).
Well, dude, Bulgarians indeed are older, but I am also older than you and have researched on history probably before you were born.
F. Bulgarians inherited the Türkic words from Proto-Bulgarians. The Ottoman perios is just a PRETEXT. And as I said, there are different Türk-Altaic languages/dialects. Other example, Polish and Bulgarian are said (wrongly) to be Slavic. But I can tell you that when a Polish guy will talk to you in Polish, you will not understand it.
well i am bulgarian and meet polish people almost everyday and i can tell you that i do understend their language ,not everything but very often i now what r they talkin about,dont think that i support the slavic theory,because i am Bulgarian and only Bulgarian ,no trachian no macedonian no scythian or iranian or turkic.Respect bro
- Herodotus 4.110 explains two words, "Oior" being Scythic for "man," and "pata" for "to slay"". These are straightforward Türkic words, "ar/ir/er" for "man, husband" and "pata" for "kill". The "ar/ir/er" with a meaning men, people is a component of such compound ethnonyms as Suar, Bulgar, Azeri, Khazar, Akathyr etc
"The Scytho-Iranian hypothesis, taken literally, would predict some genetic continuity from the ancient Indo-Iranian Scythians to their modern Indo-Iranian descendants. But archaeological and genetic studies performed to date consistently fail this test[citation needed], and instead consistently point to a Ural-Altaic genetic make-up (Voevoda M.I. et al. "Reconstruction ..."), detested by Iranists"
Scythians are iranians!!! Please read not turk sources!!!
Try - Scytho-Sarmatian dictionary from ABAEV!!! According to Abaev 75% of Scytho-Sarmatian words are Avestian - East Iranian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-No. It is not only Turk sources. My Bulgarian teacher at the Swedish university believe also in the Turkic version. Most foreign sources say same. I don´t think that all Turkish scientists are wrong because of their Turkic ethnicity. We cannot bulli them because of the Ottoman period. Biger problem is that Hungarians, Romanians, Fyromanians and Greeks try to steal Bulgar/Bulgarian history and deny it.
- Thanks for the adress. I will read after I come from work. Anyway, this logo sounds like from Tatarstan brothers. There was a painting on the wall "Bulgarya e ziva".
Türkic version is fake!!! It is created from russian historians 150 years ago! And this theory is based on the turkic languages of chuvash and tatars! But this theory can not prove haw danube bulgarians for 50-100 years lose that theoretical turkic language!
- Scythians did attack Persian/Iranian lands, so they have been there. Scythians, including most scholars of today, were not considered Iranian even by ancient writers like Herodotos and Hipocrates. Koreans were also Scythians, etc
Bulgarians (from Volga and Danube) are height situated indo-europians from iranian/arian branch!!!
Bulgarians are part of Sakas and SARMATIANS - iranians from BALKH or BACTRA!!!
This video is for Bulgarian traditions and old rituals from Religion of Magians - ZURVANISM or Zoroartism - fire religion of old iranian peoples! Mask rituals we find on metal plate from Luristan, Persia!
2. The snow leopard symbol comes from the totems of one of the Bulgar tribes - the Barsil. According to legend, the Barsils founded Bilär in Volga Bulgaria. The creator of the current coat of arms is the artist Rif Zägri uli Fäxretdinev.
1. It is not horse 08:12 It is an ancient Turkic and Bolgar symbol translated as White Leopard or Snow Leopard, and has been in use since 1991 as the official symbol of Tatarstan. Historically, this symbol was used in Volga Bulgaria and the Khanate of Kazan (Qazan) - predecessors of Tatarstan - as a state symbol.
- Dude, this video was made by Bulgarian davailbg. It is about Bulgarian Schamanism called Surva, practiced even today - old Bulgar tradition similar to Korean since according to Korean professor Buyeo in Korea was also Bulgar.
- Sorry, I misuderstood you. Cheon and I we cooperate and correspond about Bulgar and Korean history. It was nice of him to send you the video. I hope more will watch. Are you also interested of Buyeo in Korea?
This video is for Bulgarian traditions and old rituals from Religion of Magians - ZURVANISM or Zoroartism - fire religion of old iranian peoples! Mask rituals we find on metal plate from Luristan, Persia!
СЛАВА НА ТАНГРА, БОГА НЕБЕ!
ThrashMoshBeer 1 year ago
Fantastic!
ObaNarayanShivaji999 1 year ago
@ObaNarayanShivaji999
Rather Magic! :)
davailbg 1 year ago
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Fine, whatever you want to label it, I still enjoyed it.
ObaNarayanShivaji999 1 year ago
AWESOME!!!
ObaNarayanShivaji999 1 year ago
Before thousands years bulgarian mans Odin(Adin/Edin), Perun and Valhala went at this nordest people and their teachers were.On the Balkan IS "ARIA" first humman civilization Ura-Ara / Bulgar "BULGARIA"
diyandobrev 2 years ago 2
All Slaves is skandynavian tribes (Serbs/Slovens/Chez/Polaks/Rusians/Belorusians/Ukraines) whu leave thousands of years around Bulgaria (Aria)"Balkans" and have learned to speak broken Bulgarian language. For modern Bulgarian language have information on more 8 000 years Here on the Balkan and Anatolia.
diyandobrev 2 years ago 2
Brothers in blood ..ARYAN
Arianland 2 years ago 6
Българите са Българи - не траки, не славяни, не тюрки.
khansondoke 2 years ago 5
Българи = Траки = Славяни
Bulgarians = Thracians = Slavs
Прародината на българите е на Балканите.
The land of origin of Bulgarians was in the Balkans.
Istinata2009 2 years ago
По тази логика прародината на българите трябва да е Африка, защото от там произлиза хомосапиенс.
davailbg 2 years ago
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bgpobeda 2 years ago
Най-доброто видео с най-добрата музика!
khansondoke 2 years ago
Ancient bulgarian ritual SURVA comes from deep hystory bu to day Here on the Balkans and Anatolia part of New years celabrations.We the most Big ethnitical population of this area and we ceep traditions more from 200 000years!
"Internet will kill the devil"
Bulgar - Bulgar!
bgpobeda 2 years ago 3
Турците не са българи. Помаците не са турци нито тракийци. Сурва или Саурва е Скитско, Иранско или Авестийско божество.
Дявола не е християнството, защото много по-голям дявол е исляма.
davailbg 2 years ago
Turks are not Bulgarians. Pomaks are not Turks or Thracians. Surva or Saurva is Scythian, Iranian or Avestian deity.
Devil is not Christianity, because bigest devil is Islam.
davailbg 2 years ago
The turic theory is fake!
In modern and proto-bulgarian language we can find 20-30 old turic words, but there we can find more than 1000 Avestian and Old Persian words.
This Old iranian words you cannot find in Otoman language!!!
davailbg 2 years ago
Bulgarians, Croatians and Serbians - South Slavs are Iranians with East-Itanian(Avestian/Skhytian) language.
The modern Croatian and Serbian scholars tell this! And there are a lot facts about Sarmatian orgin of Bulgars. The Croatian name is from Zoroastrism - Harvavat!
davailbg 2 years ago
and you start to read Petur Dobre. Петър Добрев. I know what to read. There is not only one theory, and thats the good thing. And if you look for Bulgarian origin in Volga Bulgaria, than you really dont have idea of history. Because the origin of Bulgaria is from ''Balhara'' and Volga Bulgaria was the first Bulgarian country in Europe, but befor that, and after that we have other countries. In Balhara was the origin, and that was more than 8 centuries befor turks come there.
Jigov 2 years ago
d. I don´t understand how ppl chose one aspect and ignore the rest of the history. You cannot pick things only which you like.
I see you don´t listen what people say. I say again, in Hungarian/Madjar there were a lot of Proto-Bulgarian loanwords, which are NOT Iranian. I tired of brainwashed pepople with this Dobrev theory. This is only a thesis a speculation. NOT ANY PROVE. Even the Bulgarian associated professor at Gothenburg University critiziced him. She is linguist, Dobrev is NOT.
spa05akw 2 years ago
e. Though, there were some Türkic ppl Iranized. That does not proove their Iranian origin.
spa05akw 2 years ago
f. You talk about new proves and Volga Bulgarians. Well, don´t read second hand information, but read it directly. I can give you the adress for the original book. Besides, there never can be new proves, because the initial and most true information was already written in old annals, etc. What can be new, is additional information that was kept in secrecy or oblivion (on purpose or not on purpose).
spa05akw 2 years ago
g. I found hidden information already in the beginnng of the 90´s and the new information (Tarihi, etc) just confirms that now, what I have found previously. What you need in you society, is to have real and Patriotic researchers and BUDITELI. There were not such in communistic time, so you are just starting.
h. I don´t know what shit they spread in your schools, but Khazars were Bulgars who spoke same langage. Khazar is not ethnic name. Same goes for Scythians, Huns, Alans, etc.
spa05akw 2 years ago
i. Continue...
i. There never existed Bulgaro-Slavic history, but it is called ONLY Bulgarian (because there was no Slavic mayority of significance). Look at the 1:st edition of P. Hilendarski´s history book. It says Bulgarian (ONLY in singular). If you se other version IT IS FALSIFIED!!!
spa05akw 2 years ago
j. I read Dobrevs books and I se he proves NOTHING. I am not interesting in his speculations anymore. He use separate words /ethymology, First you must know what language is. Dobrev seems not knowing what language is.
As I said before, the word Türk in not ethnicity.
spa05akw 2 years ago
k. My God, dude, please do not talk CRAP. I know what was the 1:st Bulgar state and origin. It is URALIC REGION from 15 000 BC! From there they moved to Northern India, Mongolia (was a part of Bulgar Empire), C. Asia, Siberia,Turkestan, Near East, Anatolia, Balkan, Apennines, Manchuria, Bactria, Egypt, Sumer/Mesopotamia, Carpathian basin, Central Europe, etc. Bactria was just ONE of them - a busstation. Who the fuck lies to you?! They are lost in the forest and don´t know how to read books.
spa05akw 2 years ago
l. Djagfar Tarihi (Volga Bulgarian annals) NEVER said that Bulgarian origin is from Bactria.
Bulgarians were even before in North to China (Mongolia) - one of the most ancient Bulgar territories.
Additional information. Tarihi is collection from the most oldest Bulgarian annals and contain information from the Greatest libraries like in Constantinople and Vatikan.
spa05akw 2 years ago
m. Concerning new theories and proves. My is best, and you should read it when I am finished with my book about The Great and Magnificent History of the Bulgarian people. Dobrev´s history is just one of the Fragments attempted by limited authors my is wide and the WHOLE. From the very beginning, the middle and the last.
spa05akw 2 years ago
well, i would be glad to read it. where is going to be published and on what languages ?
Jigov 2 years ago
For some things you are right ( about TUrkish nation) but other theory is madness... Turks really dont come from Bulgarians. I answered it below. And .....man where do you get this information from ?? cuz i graduated Sofia University - Theory and History of Culture which is Alot History, Culture, Philosophy and even some linguistic. and this is the first time i heard about this crazy theory. And i know my information from the source... people who right the books.
Jigov 2 years ago
a. You don´t read true history at your schools, and your payed historians or researchers must follow what authorities say and the polic climate. Secondly, the true information is still kept away from the Bulgarian ppl a legacy from communistic time and Pan-Slavic time. Most important is, that they still lie to your ppl that Slavs absorbed Proto-Bulgarians, therefore you are Slavic. What a CRAP! Don´t read anti-Bulgarians like Zlatarski, M. Drinov, Irechek, D. Angelov and some others.
spa05akw 2 years ago
b. My sources independent not payed lakeys. The most realiable source is Volga Bulgarian Medieval not communistic and Pan-Slavic. Homatian, Rakovski, the 1:st edition of Paisii´s history are OK.
Read!!! Hristo Madjarov, Veselin Iliev, Gantcho Tsenov (against imaginary Slavic theory), Djagfar Tarihi (Volga Bulgarian), Dr. Guide. Don´t listen to anti-Bulgarians they have even infiltrated BAN. Since you study, you should read all available books. True science is not prejudiced.
spa05akw 2 years ago
c. Even Turkish prof. Eröz proved that Turks descend from Bulgars and was killed by fanatics. But the truth cannot be killed! I should be more clear. I did not say they were direct descendants from Kubrats Bulgars. Bulgars were many and widespread, with different tribes and clans. For ex, 1/3 of the Northern hemisphere have Bulgarian blood. If you mean Kubrats Bulgars, then it is different.
spa05akw 2 years ago
One of the best videos I have ever seen on youtube!
khansondoke 2 years ago 7
Iranian origin of bulgarians have a lot of anthropological, genetic, and linguistic proves!
If you write in Google - Chuvash_HLA.pdf
you can find how close related are bulgarians and modern persians/iranians! (Clik - Images)
davailbg 3 years ago
In - Chuvash_HLA.pdf - you can also find where are situated Koreans! :)))))))) Far far away from bulgarians and other indo-europeans!!!!
davailbg 3 years ago
Volga bulgarians accept turk language from pecenegs, khazars and oguz, but early they speak AVESTIAN or bulgarian from BALKH!
Bulgarian blessing god is SURVA, and this name came from avestian/aryan god SAURVA!
davailbg 3 years ago
Sorry, man, but there is no evidence that Bulgars were Iranian. But all serious linguists know that Bulgar was Türkic strongly Iranized. Bulgars were true Scythians (Scythians spoke non indoeuropean) who later mixed with Sarmatians.
spa05akw 3 years ago
Sorry but your information is old and wrong!
In bulgarian language we have a thousands word with direct avestian and old-iranian roots! Many of this words in modern times we can find only in bulgarian and east-iranian languages!
In proto-bulgarian language we have only 15-20 words with turkic roots!!!
Тhе Scythians spoke indoeuropean - iranian/aryan language! Тhе Scythians inhabit indoeuropean steps 2000 years before invasion of turks(400-500 AC)!
davailbg 3 years ago
- Linguistists say it is Iranized Proto-Türkic (Altaic). Even my teacher (she is not old and did fresh studies) who is linguist at the University is convinced of the Türkic version. Anyhow, Bulgars were Scythians and real Scythians did not speak indo-european. And that is for sure. Though, I believe that Bulgars were everywhere and Pamirian region is one of Bulgar several states. Sorry, but it is not been proven that Bulgars were initially Iranians. It is just thesis.
spa05akw 3 years ago
Scythians speak indo-european!!!
davailbg 3 years ago
- NO!!!
spa05akw 3 years ago
The Scythians or Scyths[1] (Greek: Σκύθες, Σκύθοι) were an East Iranian speaking people of horse-riding nomadic pastoralists[2][3] who dominated the Pontic steppe throughout Classical Antiquity. By Late Antiquity the closely-related Sarmatians came to dominate the Scyths in this area.
davailbg 3 years ago
- According to Herodotos and Hippocrates (in his work About lands, water and air) Scythians were of Mongolian origin. Scythian = "bow shooter". There were pastoralists, even Greeks among them, so what? Scythian way up to Turkestan, Alatj..., was populated by "bow shooters / worriors".
spa05akw 3 years ago
The Scythian language and its various dialects formed part of the Indo-European language-family. The personal names found in the contemporary Greek literary and epigraphic texts suggest that the language of the Scythians and the Sarmatians (who spoke a dialect of Scythian according to Hist. 4.117 Herodotus) belonged to the Northeast Iranian branch. An alternative theory suggests that at least some Scythian tribes, such as the Meotians (Sindi), spoke Indo-Aryan dialects.
davailbg 3 years ago
- Ancient sources said nothing about the language, as fas as I know, but about the origin.
- The Turk type of the Scythian-Sarmat language is testified by many names of Sarmat leaders mentioned by Roman historians Tacitus, Ammianus Marcellinus and others. The language of Scythians is known almost exclusively by the personal names, among which both Turk and Iranian words are met.
spa05akw 3 years ago
do you realise that turks come centuries after Bulgarians. And also Bulgarians are much older people than Turks??? also do you realise that we have turkish words in our language because we were 500 slaved, not because we are turks. And btw i speaked with some turkish friends, from Turkey, and asked for all this words, for 70% OF THEM he didnt know the meaning...... explain me this. how come you know so much about Bulgarian??? Are you one of thos waiting for BG passport lol MONKEYDONIAN ???
Jigov 2 years ago
A. Are you one of thos waiting for BG passport lol MONKEYDONIAN ???
No. I am not Macedonian, nor I am waiting for Bulgarian passport. I have Swedish passport since the 80´s, and before Polish. When I lived in Bulgaria and finished there highschool, I had Polish passport.
spa05akw 2 years ago
B. It is established by mayority that Proto-Bulgarian was Altaic. This is not hypotheses or speculation, but a strong theory. I personally talked to Volga Bulgarian historians, and they tald me that their forefathers (Bulgars) spoke Turkish (Altaic). My Bulgarian associated professor in linguistics at the Gothenburg University, who also cooperate with the Bulgarian University, is convinced that Proto-Bulgarians spoke Altaic, etc.
spa05akw 2 years ago
yes you are right IT IS ONE OF THE THEORIES. But there are more theories, new with better proofs. And to inform you that Volga Bulgars really speak that. Because there were conquered by Hazars. But also they kept the Bulgarians words too. But Danube Bulgarians speak a mix of proto-Bulgarians(which is not turkic)Thrakian and Slavinian. And the alphabet is not called Slavinian but ''SlavianoBulgarska'' which means Both Slavinian and Bulgarian.
Jigov 2 years ago
C. Besides that, Volga Bulgarian Medieval sources anonced that long before we were born. And don´t forget that one of Khan Kubrats sons created modern Volga Bulgarian Empire and they spoke Altaic. Just don´t tell me that in your family, your boethers and sisters speak different languages.
Yes, Bulgarians are oldest I never said otherwise. Bulgarians do not descend from Turks, but all Turkic people descend from ancient Bulgars. It is the opposite big diffrence.
spa05akw 2 years ago
LOL man you are so wrong. Turks dont come from Bulgarians. We have different language,culture,religion, even we look different. Also Kubrats Bulgarians were speaking BULGARIAN, which is not anything but Bulgarian, which is from Iranian Type of languages. We still use alot of this words. Some people say we have alot turkish words, but the true is we have much more proto-Bulgarian words than Turkish (Hungarians have much more turkish words than us, you know how Hungarian language sounds..)
Jigov 2 years ago
E. Continuation...
Pelasgians spoke Türkic ancient dialect, so was Homeros work - it was not written in Greek.
To make it easier, ancient Türkic was born in Anatolian Thrace (There was Balkan Thrace and Anatolian Thrace. As a matter of fact, there is also a region in Volga Bulgaria called Thrace and a village Thrace. There are definitely connections).
Well, dude, Bulgarians indeed are older, but I am also older than you and have researched on history probably before you were born.
spa05akw 2 years ago
F. Bulgarians inherited the Türkic words from Proto-Bulgarians. The Ottoman perios is just a PRETEXT. And as I said, there are different Türk-Altaic languages/dialects. Other example, Polish and Bulgarian are said (wrongly) to be Slavic. But I can tell you that when a Polish guy will talk to you in Polish, you will not understand it.
spa05akw 2 years ago
well i am bulgarian and meet polish people almost everyday and i can tell you that i do understend their language ,not everything but very often i now what r they talkin about,dont think that i support the slavic theory,because i am Bulgarian and only Bulgarian ,no trachian no macedonian no scythian or iranian or turkic.Respect bro
chumulungma 2 years ago
- Herodotus 4.110 explains two words, "Oior" being Scythic for "man," and "pata" for "to slay"". These are straightforward Türkic words, "ar/ir/er" for "man, husband" and "pata" for "kill". The "ar/ir/er" with a meaning men, people is a component of such compound ethnonyms as Suar, Bulgar, Azeri, Khazar, Akathyr etc
spa05akw 3 years ago
- "Scythians",
according to Koreans.
spa05akw 3 years ago
"The Scytho-Iranian hypothesis, taken literally, would predict some genetic continuity from the ancient Indo-Iranian Scythians to their modern Indo-Iranian descendants. But archaeological and genetic studies performed to date consistently fail this test[citation needed], and instead consistently point to a Ural-Altaic genetic make-up (Voevoda M.I. et al. "Reconstruction ..."), detested by Iranists"
spa05akw 3 years ago
Papai, the supreme god of Scythians, whose name means "elder" in Turk languages.
Api, Papai's wife; means "mother" in Turk languages.
Atei, Scythian king, whose name is a common Turk word meaning "father".
Eir, Scythian noun "man". This word has the same meaning in Turk: "eir", "er".
Tagi, Scythian word "thread"; coincides with the same Turk word.
Jün, in Scythian and Turk means "wool". Etc.
spa05akw 3 years ago
Scythians are iranians!!! Please read not turk sources!!!
Try - Scytho-Sarmatian dictionary from ABAEV!!! According to Abaev 75% of Scytho-Sarmatian words are Avestian - East Iranian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
davailbg 3 years ago
-No. It is not only Turk sources. My Bulgarian teacher at the Swedish university believe also in the Turkic version. Most foreign sources say same. I don´t think that all Turkish scientists are wrong because of their Turkic ethnicity. We cannot bulli them because of the Ottoman period. Biger problem is that Hungarians, Romanians, Fyromanians and Greeks try to steal Bulgar/Bulgarian history and deny it.
spa05akw 3 years ago 2
bulgaria-is-alive . com
davailbg 3 years ago
- Thanks for the adress. I will read after I come from work. Anyway, this logo sounds like from Tatarstan brothers. There was a painting on the wall "Bulgarya e ziva".
spa05akw 3 years ago
Türkic version is fake!!! It is created from russian historians 150 years ago! And this theory is based on the turkic languages of chuvash and tatars! But this theory can not prove haw danube bulgarians for 50-100 years lose that theoretical turkic language!
davailbg 3 years ago
- Scythians did attack Persian/Iranian lands, so they have been there. Scythians, including most scholars of today, were not considered Iranian even by ancient writers like Herodotos and Hipocrates. Koreans were also Scythians, etc
spa05akw 3 years ago
"Koreans were also Scythians"????????
Why? Where? Proof!!!
Koreans are pure mongoloids! Bulgarians and other scythians and iranians are from caucasian race!!!
davailbg 3 years ago
- Aha, one more thing. Bulgar people have changed at least 4 times languages. Only language - especially ethymology - is not enough proof.
spa05akw 3 years ago
To all!
Bulgarians are not turks, mongols or koreans!!!
Bulgarians (from Volga and Danube) are height situated indo-europians from iranian/arian branch!!!
Bulgarians are part of Sakas and SARMATIANS - iranians from BALKH or BACTRA!!!
This video is for Bulgarian traditions and old rituals from Religion of Magians - ZURVANISM or Zoroartism - fire religion of old iranian peoples! Mask rituals we find on metal plate from Luristan, Persia!
davailbg 3 years ago
2. The snow leopard symbol comes from the totems of one of the Bulgar tribes - the Barsil. According to legend, the Barsils founded Bilär in Volga Bulgaria. The creator of the current coat of arms is the artist Rif Zägri uli Fäxretdinev.
spa05akw 3 years ago
1. It is not horse 08:12 It is an ancient Turkic and Bolgar symbol translated as White Leopard or Snow Leopard, and has been in use since 1991 as the official symbol of Tatarstan. Historically, this symbol was used in Volga Bulgaria and the Khanate of Kazan (Qazan) - predecessors of Tatarstan - as a state symbol.
spa05akw 3 years ago
masks are impressive
korikhan 3 years ago
Good video and good choice of music!
spa05akw 3 years ago
Very impressive video !!
The bull horn masks and fire wokrs look so impressive.
Impressive scenes are :
03:20 03:59 wooden pole with colorful ribbons
05: 13 holy trees
07:25 bells in the hands of the girls
08:12 is it a heavenly horse? Music is wonderful too. Thanks
Cheon1Son 3 years ago
Thank you Cheon1Son and davailbg for sharing the video ! Awesome video with unbelievable mask and fire ritual !
YannickNoahFR 3 years ago
- Dude, this video was made by Bulgarian davailbg. It is about Bulgarian Schamanism called Surva, practiced even today - old Bulgar tradition similar to Korean since according to Korean professor Buyeo in Korea was also Bulgar.
spa05akw 3 years ago
I know that but it's Cheon1Son who lets me know this video.
YannickNoahFR 3 years ago
- Sorry, I misuderstood you. Cheon and I we cooperate and correspond about Bulgar and Korean history. It was nice of him to send you the video. I hope more will watch. Are you also interested of Buyeo in Korea?
spa05akw 3 years ago
You don't have to be sorry because I should be more clear. Yes I am really interested in Buyeo !
YannickNoahFR 3 years ago
Did you see the translation of the Korean professor´s work? Cheons video clip.
Google: Buyeo (Korean) and Proto-Bulgar (BUlgarian) May be you have seen it, but here it is in case.
spa05akw 3 years ago
Thank you ! Yes I have already seen this video : Cheon1son has sent me too.
YannickNoahFR 3 years ago
Incredible! Hail Bulg-Arya!
stighelmer 3 years ago 5
Amazing...magical...everybody have to see this!!!
Kashmirabg 3 years ago 7
Bulgarian blessing god is SURVA, and this name came from avestian/aryan god SAURVA!
davailbg 3 years ago
This video is for Bulgarian traditions and old rituals from Religion of Magians - ZURVANISM or Zoroartism - fire religion of old iranian peoples! Mask rituals we find on metal plate from Luristan, Persia!
davailbg 3 years ago