i don't understand why extreme metal drumerrs or any of kind metal drummer should try in their solos to play latin,jazz or any other kind of technical type of music...
Jason, you have the speed, but your meter is sloppy (evident when you started playing to the metronome click). The shiny cymbals, cage, and special configuration is a nice visual effect, but that's not everything to everyone. Keep that in mind next time you want to show off.
i would love to know WHAT EXACT cymbals hes using in this video, he has my dream set up in THIS video, if any one here is a meinl expert please tell me !!!!!! i dont want to know what cymbals are in the meinl website that he uses, i mean in this video
this guys sounds like a college band drummer!! with a lot of stuff copied from Ian Paice...and his swing suck....he need to watch a few videos of buddy rich..
@ironcobra98 up yours fucker. Music is about being creative and not about how fast or complicated you sound. AC/DC is a good exsample, their not fast but they sure as hell know what their doing and they have a good tune. Jason's doing his own thing, because its just him being him. so you can fuck off, "Iron Cobra". those pedal's suck so bad too. i got those but returned them the next day cause i got demon drives instead.
I like when a metal drummer uses latin music in order to give a wide variety of rythms in their solos. Samba gives you a solid foudation to create a solo... so the double bass drum...
He plays his metal grooves well and all but he really lacks in creativity. Why the fuck would you start swinging and playing latin grooves after playing metal. It's like he ran out of ideas.
to be honest he is not my favourite drummer. he is good, but i don't like his style specially when he plays jazz or latin rithms, he does not have the right swing, he is better in heavy metal and rock.
@stoneman619 These fills are actually just alternations between hands and feet. Like RLRL, with the first RL played with your hands and the second one played with your feet ;) Just try it out, and you'll notice you can get quite close to things like this (:
this seems like a little child trying to play drums if you compare it with monsters like e.g. with colaiuta, minnemann, borlai, ... ;-)) (nothing against him - was just my spontaneous thought on this - he not even can stay exactly in the metronome-beat, what for does he use it then?) ;-)
man that is an inspiration to all of us drummers wheather your country, rock, metal, jazz, r & b or whatever.....the power of jasons sticks is a sight to behold :)
@ChaddNStafford If you watch his video he mixes jazz fusion and samba patterns to metal. He went to college studying other types of music like jazz. You can hear different genres in this solo but you have to know what to listen for.
@ChaddNStafford You are so fucking retarded this guy is a fuckin monster at drums and he mixes a hell load of genres into this solo and instead of writing these gay ass comments y don't you post a vid of you playing a solo this amazing
theirs always a dickhead out there that comes up with some stupid comment like he hasnt got" feeling"....hes prob better than 90% of the metal drummers out there...
@54blake54 he went to berkley and there is a reason why he is on modern drummer and including me none of us are he practices very hard and is a solid timing player
puros palos sueltos , in the bas drums always single, penkaaaaa, mas encima se le corre el pulso con la makina, so much drums ,not play nathing, se entiende ??
@finaldrumer im pretty sure that hes using Iron Cobra, i mean thats what he normally uses and also demon drives are orange and silver, these are black and red. (colour of iron cobra)
@finaldrumer ok go to 3.22 and look at his feet, they come off for a spit second. Now they are not silver so they are not demons, they are black. BUT, you are correct in saying that iron cobra does not have red beaters but im aware you can buy different beaters so maybe hes just using different beaters or theres tape on them or something cuz if not i dont know wtf hes using haha
@herculesandco Joey Jordison is endorsed by Pearl and he uses Iron Cobras. Gavin Harrison is endorsed by Sonor and he uses Axis drum pedals - the argument you gave me is not valid at all. Plus, I searched for the Demon Drive Beaters, they are in black w/ an orange stripe and there're also in orange with a black stripe. The second one look exactly as the one in the vid. Search a pic of them, you'll see (:
the funny thing about all you people talking shit is that no one commenting on this page can play half the shit Jason, or damn near any other drummer at this festival. thats why you are hear on youtube watching this video, because you cant do this and you would fail miserably if you tried. do you think Jason, Jojo Mayer, etc are fucking watching youtube and are negatively commenting on other drummers?hell no, they know they are the shit and they know they have loyal follewers.you people are fags
Why do people watch stuff just to say dickish things? This isnt a contest its a festival. When anyone on here that wants to slam jason for his ability sells as many records as shadows fall or develops the humility that jason has then your insults might have some weight.
He seems to be the Travis Barker of Metal haha, he can play fast and hard but technique and dynamics as well as stick control seems to lag, hes got some good bass control though
Oh man, he is quite the technician and he sure is fast. But I don't consider him a musician or even an artist. He's playing the drums like it was a sport or something. That little "Jazz" and "Latin" part shows best what I mean. The dynamics and the feeling is what makes a great Jazz drummer a great Jazz drummer. And he doesn't have any.
@GjongjI Duh, I know he is. But he's trying to play Jazz and Latin patterns to show that he's versatile. And both parts just don't sound like they should, so he'd better stick to the stuff he's good at.
@LaughingOutKraut Well the thing is those Jazz and Latin patterns have very long subdivisions and since he IS a metal drummer hes trying to play those patterns in more of a metal tempo and so playing a long subdivision fast it really loses its accents and feeling. This what i believe your driving at.
@LaughingOutKraut If a jazz drummer played 16 measures of lousy blast-beats I wouldn't have a problem with that particular jazz drummer. It should work the same way for a metal drummer who attempts to play a small sample of jazz. Plus, he makes fun of himself at this concert for "trying" to play jazz. I could understand people's beef with him if he was an arrogant prick or something, but he's not.
@ToTheConquered I don't have a problem with him as a person, just as a drummer. And I would think less of that particular jazz drummer if he played a blast beat in one of his solos. That's just not tasteful.
Hm, okay, if he said something along those lines that changes a little bit. But still, imho a solo is to show people what you're made of, it's not a place to "try" something. He should've done that in his practice space.
@LaughingOutKraut I don't know. I've seen so many unbelievable solos in my day, I'm just sort of numb to them. Jason's not even on my top-25 best metal drummers, so I almost feel like it's unfair for him to be put in the position of showing up on behalf of the best metal drummers. Shadows Fall is a really popular band and because of that he won the award. That's kind of like of expecting Derek Jeter to represent all of baseball by hitting home runs. He's popular but not that good.
@ToTheConquered So, Jason shows up, and he knows he's not the greatest drummer, is put in the position of being surrounded by all these other better drummers. Ultimately, Jason is the perfect drummer for his band, but he's not really a virtuoso. Sure other drummers are better than him, but they won't win awards because they can't coordinate a band like Jason does with Shadows Fall. If anything, I blame the way Modern Drummer selects its winners, not the people who win the award.
@LaughingOutKraut Well does he look like a jazz drummer? No. Speed and technicality is what makes a metal drummer a great metal drummer, and that's what he has. If you jazz drummers don't recognize that, then just don't comment on metal drummer's videos.
@XxStrongDrums1996xX I'm not a Jazz drummer. In fact, you would rather consider me a Metal drummer, than a Jazzer. But that doesn't keep me from knowing what's tasteful and what's not.
@LaughingOutKraut I think you'll find that you underestimate the power of YouTube compression. See this live and he definite does dynamics. In fact you can still hear through the layer of compression that there are dynamics there... so whats your excuse?
i don't understand why extreme metal drumerrs or any of kind metal drummer should try in their solos to play latin,jazz or any other kind of technical type of music...
vutrica995 1 day ago
Good chops, there doesnt seem to be much forethought into what he's playing though
Stephenhaake 2 days ago
best
giometalcore 3 days ago
Awesome drummer. But regardless, i like him for sportin the Dime shirt
LambOfGod666999 1 week ago
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LambOfGod666999 1 week ago
that bit at 0:46 what the fuck? terrible
mafr0o 2 weeks ago
Horrible
MrSixxen 3 weeks ago
@MrSixxen explain why he plays horrible
bisys2 1 day ago
@1:23 metal face
jplovesmk 3 weeks ago
i laughed when he turned on the metronome
wreckingball28 3 weeks ago
Jason, you have the speed, but your meter is sloppy (evident when you started playing to the metronome click). The shiny cymbals, cage, and special configuration is a nice visual effect, but that's not everything to everyone. Keep that in mind next time you want to show off.
lartinso 3 weeks ago
i would love to know WHAT EXACT cymbals hes using in this video, he has my dream set up in THIS video, if any one here is a meinl expert please tell me !!!!!! i dont want to know what cymbals are in the meinl website that he uses, i mean in this video
mrboverbro 1 month ago
Need more cymbals!
SmokyCable 1 month ago
Nice.
pONtosan100 1 month ago
blew my mind.let the haters hate, but i loved it.
juvedoo99 2 months ago
@Whettel sounds like iwrestledabearonce
zippozakk 2 months ago
keren abiiiis
vvbmjhuy 2 months ago
imagine being his shoes... :s
MegaYdg 2 months ago 2
Horrible. Period
FurlanPaolo 2 months ago
i really love this guy he plays every style
dantekillnero 2 months ago
Dimebag singlet! R.I.P Dime, August 20, 1966 – December 8, 2004. \m/ \m/
UltimateFighting666 2 months ago
man this is the first solo a heard about 3 years ago when i started playing its my favorite every time i hear something new
DAYMOUS 2 months ago
He is only metal
justin29m 2 months ago 2
are those meinl classics mini hats?
mrboverbro 2 months ago
Cnaged my view of drums, This legened!
LarsThusingDrummer 2 months ago
quiet jazz.....BLAST BEAT! quiet jazz.....BLAST BEAT! quiet jazz.....BLAST BEAT! quiet jazz.....BLAST BEAT!
Whettel 3 months ago 11
I just seen him at GC wow he is awesome...
carraro48 3 months ago
ahh he did go off once on the metronome wow I'm shocked
tamakit123 3 months ago
nice drum triggers
thecrismaster099 3 months ago
@thecrismaster099 im not trolling, i think their mics for his bass
soulsinger90876 3 months ago
@soulsinger90876 they r on his kicks he last time i checked he doesn't trigger but i haven't been following him so that may have changed
tamakit123 3 months ago
@tamakit123 k
soulsinger90876 3 months ago
this guys sounds like a college band drummer!! with a lot of stuff copied from Ian Paice...and his swing suck....he need to watch a few videos of buddy rich..
ironcobra98 3 months ago
@ironcobra98 up yours fucker. Music is about being creative and not about how fast or complicated you sound. AC/DC is a good exsample, their not fast but they sure as hell know what their doing and they have a good tune. Jason's doing his own thing, because its just him being him. so you can fuck off, "Iron Cobra". those pedal's suck so bad too. i got those but returned them the next day cause i got demon drives instead.
UTGTYPE96sniper 3 months ago
this guys sounds like a college band drummer!! with a lot of stuff copied from Ian Paice...
ironcobra98 3 months ago
Dylan Elise makes this guy look like a rookie statue.
tdttdttdttdt 3 months ago
I like when a metal drummer uses latin music in order to give a wide variety of rythms in their solos. Samba gives you a solid foudation to create a solo... so the double bass drum...
gerdrummer 5 months ago
what rides are in this video? his main ride dousnt look like the bell blast
mrboverbro 5 months ago
i love how he slows it down alil bit and then BLAST BLAST
stoneman619 5 months ago
i seeeeeeeeeeee a rainbow
stoneman619 5 months ago
What's the point in turning on the click if you're not going to follow it? Prove to everyone how bad your time is??
mprimecoleman 5 months ago
@mprimecoleman he is following the click
ypcylon 5 months ago
@mprimecoleman he is following the click
ypcylon 5 months ago
@ypcylon If you can't hear that he's not with the click between 1:42 and 1:52, then never mind. Just never mind.
mprimecoleman 5 months ago
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drummerboy92019 4 months ago
i love when a player has a big set.. and actually uses all of the damn pieces!!!:DD
A7XfoREVerA7Xcjl 5 months ago
He plays his metal grooves well and all but he really lacks in creativity. Why the fuck would you start swinging and playing latin grooves after playing metal. It's like he ran out of ideas.
akuro123 5 months ago
to be honest he is not my favourite drummer. he is good, but i don't like his style specially when he plays jazz or latin rithms, he does not have the right swing, he is better in heavy metal and rock.
giosmrbig 5 months ago
tbh he plays jazz a lot better then this ;)
Ndrummer77 5 months ago
The only thing I don't like about this guy is he's the only one who has short hair in Shadows Fall.
CloggedLacrimalGland 5 months ago
He makes it look so easy. He doesn't have the typical drummer's face lol
HoboNinjaful 5 months ago
@mmapipe no i disagree. lars sucks now! drumming has came a long way since the 80's
toynazi 5 months ago
Proud to say i've seen him live
ckyfan08 5 months ago 2
@ckyfan08
proud to say im starting lessons with him in a couple weeks
mrboverbro 3 months ago
i really dont like metal drumming or double bass but this was pretty fuckin sick
MMJ420Gardener 5 months ago
play drums!! have fun!! I know I wasn't asked to play modern drummer.
positiveoutlook3 5 months ago
@mmapipe na hes better than that
nightmarealivemetal 5 months ago
such a dead crowd -.-
headwu 5 months ago
well i for one, think this is fucking awesome
TheSicDominator 6 months ago
right at 1:19 to 1:23 is all the fills i dont know from this video jason bittner is legendary and those fills are insane
stoneman619 6 months ago
@stoneman619 These fills are actually just alternations between hands and feet. Like RLRL, with the first RL played with your hands and the second one played with your feet ;) Just try it out, and you'll notice you can get quite close to things like this (:
Thanatiphoros 5 months ago
ok the man went off time, we all do it. relax people
sixup55 6 months ago
fucking epic, but sif no mad finish :(
Masons4Drumz 6 months ago
while i admire his technical strength and endurance i can't say ithink this solo is particularly musical or that i really liked it
sjproductions100 6 months ago
i think it makes him ten times cooler just for wearing a dime shirt
LambOfGod666999 6 months ago
The blasts werent to great but other than that this is pretty damn good.
Ibanez707Active 6 months ago
One ov my fav metal drummers! :D Although IMO, I don't think blast beating is for Jason.
nemesis233 6 months ago
this seems like a little child trying to play drums if you compare it with monsters like e.g. with colaiuta, minnemann, borlai, ... ;-)) (nothing against him - was just my spontaneous thought on this - he not even can stay exactly in the metronome-beat, what for does he use it then?) ;-)
groovedoc 6 months ago
@groovedoc he does odd timing beats which is probably why it sounds off and also if u count 1 2 3 4 and actually feel the "pulse" he is in time
tamakit123 6 months ago
@tamakit123 if you dont listen exactly enough its your problem
groovedoc 6 months ago
@groovedoc so like i said count 1 2 3 4 he is on every count i listen t this 6 times last night to see if he was off time he never was
tamakit123 6 months ago
It kills me that people are up Travis Barker's butt when guys like this are around!
cbr1000drummer 6 months ago
what bass pedals is he using?
54badger 6 months ago
His set is bigger than the command center for the Space Shuttle
GlocalReformission 6 months ago
LEGENDARY
9465452raf 7 months ago
CALVES.
TheSkaddict 7 months ago
i was listing to him drum while iwas on facebook now my fingers are acting like drum stick thanks alot -.-
livelifelove95 7 months ago
Jason Bittner does not get the credit he deserves..He is one talented Mofo
XXXCRSPL 7 months ago
The question isn't "I can be able to do that?", but is "there any other drummer more good at drumming that can go to modern drummer festival?"
Koyuki91 7 months ago
So amazing !
mrxkillzjoy 7 months ago
anyone ealse pop a woody watching this??
aaronkxridea 7 months ago
Fucking great (:
Mag6otCorps 7 months ago
man that is an inspiration to all of us drummers wheather your country, rock, metal, jazz, r & b or whatever.....the power of jasons sticks is a sight to behold :)
saddlenhooks 7 months ago
he's my drum teacher (: he's awesomeeeee
killu626 7 months ago
Chris adler was my fav metal drummer intill i saw thiss
THRASHER1996100196 7 months ago
THE DRUM SOLO OF LIFE!
fishkllr 7 months ago
jason bitner is a fucking monster
StIdes811 8 months ago
he just loves straight double bass patterns.,which is kinda tiring to hear for a long period of time
MargaretsLight 8 months ago
He can only play one genre in my opinion that's not a good drummer.
ChaddNStafford 8 months ago
@ChaddNStafford who would want to play any other????!!!!
saddlenhooks 7 months ago
@ChaddNStafford If you watch his video he mixes jazz fusion and samba patterns to metal. He went to college studying other types of music like jazz. You can hear different genres in this solo but you have to know what to listen for.
ikedrummer 7 months ago
@ChaddNStafford You are so fucking retarded this guy is a fuckin monster at drums and he mixes a hell load of genres into this solo and instead of writing these gay ass comments y don't you post a vid of you playing a solo this amazing
wannabedrummerlol 7 months ago
that solo was orgasmic! and that bass is crazy!
JakeTheDrummer18 8 months ago
Tbh, massive fuck up bringing in the metronome if you are gonna totally ignore it
TheSicDominator 8 months ago 3
@TheSicDominator He missed metronome only one times. so stop
portnoyere 3 months ago
ooooh man this guy is good
frandy3545 8 months ago
I BET HES BETTER THAN ANYONE OF YOU!!!! :-)
TheKkrriissii 8 months ago
theirs always a dickhead out there that comes up with some stupid comment like he hasnt got" feeling"....hes prob better than 90% of the metal drummers out there...
Metallicamurphy 8 months ago
I love how people talk junk about him. Well, if you think you can do it...this is a video place, lets see you try it.
54blake54 8 months ago 34
@54blake54 win!
gothickid13 8 months ago
@54blake54 he went to berkley and there is a reason why he is on modern drummer and including me none of us are he practices very hard and is a solid timing player
tamakit123 6 months ago
@54blake54 INDEED! and he's playing nonstop in fucking 6 minutes !
MrBongojoe12 6 months ago
@54blake54 Nah, dont wanna be so ashamed of myself by playing this badly..
TheDragspelarn 4 months ago
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HxCPwnogrphy 4 months ago
hate the game not the player
assbagandro 8 months ago 2
@assbagandro why should you hate any of these..drumming's SICK! and this guy's badass
SWI0001 8 months ago
he should try something like that : /watch?v=hUeF8pbhj8A
TheKkrriissii 8 months ago
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hey de donde es este man?????????????
petter49fully 8 months ago
hey de donde es este man?????????????
petter49fully 8 months ago
@petter49fully es el baterista de shadows fall de ney york!!
pepsfavela 8 months ago
@petter49fully massachuesettes
gothickid13 8 months ago
Ok, seriously, you haters need to stop. He's like... 10000000000x better than any of you.
Sucklessguitarvids 8 months ago 33
@Sucklessguitarvids yup fur sure.. i been drummin fur 8 years and im not even close 2 how awsome this dude is!!! :D lol i wanna get thisa good
hotrodz723 6 months ago
Man, those symbols are SHINY. 0_o I want.
HenryDewarMusic 8 months ago
SPANG-A-LANG IS NOT ALL THERE IS TO JAZZ.
f2theorrest 9 months ago
wish i was that good with double bass :D
i also like how he finds a spot for jazz in this
DrummerXx311xX 9 months ago
Amazing
BABOS1974 9 months ago
frim what band is this guy?
so goooood
roentjeu16 9 months ago
Amen.......
athlete, yes.
Musician,,,, no not close
shwansola 9 months ago
Anyone Notice He has a dimebag darrell shirt on?
GrimRDrag 9 months ago
I met him, and Shadows Fall after a show. I got a drum stick signed by the whole band, and it was fucking sweet!
Pearl4life92 9 months ago
wow
louco313 9 months ago
The shorts ruined it for me.
TheSkaddict 9 months ago
this is so goodi can't descirde what wicth craft caused this
assbagandro 9 months ago
puros palos sueltos , in the bas drums always single, penkaaaaa, mas encima se le corre el pulso con la makina, so much drums ,not play nathing, se entiende ??
condoritoz1 9 months ago
5:57 : They try to build a prison!
DJYuYu2xD 10 months ago
An incredible sense of rhythm, excellent!
Ternsip 10 months ago
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Ternsip 10 months ago
can not wait to see his clinic in erie pa!!!!!
hotmercedes 10 months ago
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There no doubt he`s very good
TheJagzy 10 months ago
Jason bitner sucks. he got so off from the click. LOL. I shouldve played MD fest 2005.
drummusician 10 months ago
Now thats a drum solo!!!!
enator296 10 months ago
I'm quite sure this vid is not from 2005 'cause he's using the Pearl's Demon pedals. Excuse me if I'm wrong. Those pedals are from 2009 right?
finaldrumer 10 months ago
@finaldrumer Ther not pearl demons man
herculesandco 10 months ago
@herculesandco so what pedal's was he using?
finaldrumer 10 months ago
@finaldrumer im pretty sure that hes using Iron Cobra, i mean thats what he normally uses and also demon drives are orange and silver, these are black and red. (colour of iron cobra)
herculesandco 10 months ago
@herculesandco Iron cobra has no red beaters dude!
finaldrumer 10 months ago
@finaldrumer ok go to 3.22 and look at his feet, they come off for a spit second. Now they are not silver so they are not demons, they are black. BUT, you are correct in saying that iron cobra does not have red beaters but im aware you can buy different beaters so maybe hes just using different beaters or theres tape on them or something cuz if not i dont know wtf hes using haha
herculesandco 10 months ago
@finaldrumer plus the fact that Jason is endorsed by Tama so that rules out the fact that it might be Pearl
herculesandco 10 months ago
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@herculesandco Joey Jordison is endorsed by Pearl and he uses Iron Cobras. Gavin Harrison is endorsed by Sonor and he uses Axis drum pedals - the argument you gave me is not valid at all. Plus, I searched for the Demon Drive Beaters, they are in black w/ an orange stripe and there're also in orange with a black stripe. The second one look exactly as the one in the vid. Search a pic of them, you'll see (:
finaldrumer 10 months ago
jason should where light up shoes they make for todlers. i think they would most likely catch on fire from how ridiculous he is.
fums up everyone!!
NKLxATL 10 months ago
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finaldrumer 10 months ago
Awesome shirt R.I.P dimebag!
Rammstein971 10 months ago
does anyone know what china he has to his right? im pretty sure its an mb10 but im not quite sure
metaldrummer4444 10 months ago
Jason is a MONSTER behind the kit!
5FDPkid 10 months ago
1:20 metronome for the win
MrVeeeg 10 months ago
the funny thing about all you people talking shit is that no one commenting on this page can play half the shit Jason, or damn near any other drummer at this festival. thats why you are hear on youtube watching this video, because you cant do this and you would fail miserably if you tried. do you think Jason, Jojo Mayer, etc are fucking watching youtube and are negatively commenting on other drummers?hell no, they know they are the shit and they know they have loyal follewers.you people are fags
louevil555 10 months ago
This is amazing!
TheREDNECKBILLY 10 months ago
Metronomes annoy me.
CrashMarioSonic 10 months ago
Why do people watch stuff just to say dickish things? This isnt a contest its a festival. When anyone on here that wants to slam jason for his ability sells as many records as shadows fall or develops the humility that jason has then your insults might have some weight.
jpercey1 10 months ago
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i think ur all fukin retarded jason is the perfect example of a rly good metal drummer good dynamics speed control technique and creativity
OGTheDemon 10 months ago
i think ur all fukin retarded jason is the prefect example of a rly good metal drummer good dynamics speed control technique and creativity
OGTheDemon 10 months ago
snare and doublebass sound horrible 8(
TheHouhouhouhou 10 months ago
He seems to be the Travis Barker of Metal haha, he can play fast and hard but technique and dynamics as well as stick control seems to lag, hes got some good bass control though
metaldrumma669 10 months ago
Oh man, he is quite the technician and he sure is fast. But I don't consider him a musician or even an artist. He's playing the drums like it was a sport or something. That little "Jazz" and "Latin" part shows best what I mean. The dynamics and the feeling is what makes a great Jazz drummer a great Jazz drummer. And he doesn't have any.
LaughingOutKraut 10 months ago 20
@LaughingOutKraut and the little Jazz parts he didnt even play for more than 5 seconds
demoniccheese 10 months ago
@LaughingOutKraut what the%^&* are you talking about
sutfinmikes 9 months ago
@LaughingOutKraut he's a Metal drummer not a Jazz drummer...
GjongjI 9 months ago
@GjongjI Duh, I know he is. But he's trying to play Jazz and Latin patterns to show that he's versatile. And both parts just don't sound like they should, so he'd better stick to the stuff he's good at.
LaughingOutKraut 9 months ago
@LaughingOutKraut Well the thing is those Jazz and Latin patterns have very long subdivisions and since he IS a metal drummer hes trying to play those patterns in more of a metal tempo and so playing a long subdivision fast it really loses its accents and feeling. This what i believe your driving at.
GrimRDrag 9 months ago
@LaughingOutKraut If a jazz drummer played 16 measures of lousy blast-beats I wouldn't have a problem with that particular jazz drummer. It should work the same way for a metal drummer who attempts to play a small sample of jazz. Plus, he makes fun of himself at this concert for "trying" to play jazz. I could understand people's beef with him if he was an arrogant prick or something, but he's not.
ToTheConquered 9 months ago
@ToTheConquered I don't have a problem with him as a person, just as a drummer. And I would think less of that particular jazz drummer if he played a blast beat in one of his solos. That's just not tasteful.
Hm, okay, if he said something along those lines that changes a little bit. But still, imho a solo is to show people what you're made of, it's not a place to "try" something. He should've done that in his practice space.
LaughingOutKraut 9 months ago
@LaughingOutKraut I don't know. I've seen so many unbelievable solos in my day, I'm just sort of numb to them. Jason's not even on my top-25 best metal drummers, so I almost feel like it's unfair for him to be put in the position of showing up on behalf of the best metal drummers. Shadows Fall is a really popular band and because of that he won the award. That's kind of like of expecting Derek Jeter to represent all of baseball by hitting home runs. He's popular but not that good.
ToTheConquered 9 months ago
@ToTheConquered So, Jason shows up, and he knows he's not the greatest drummer, is put in the position of being surrounded by all these other better drummers. Ultimately, Jason is the perfect drummer for his band, but he's not really a virtuoso. Sure other drummers are better than him, but they won't win awards because they can't coordinate a band like Jason does with Shadows Fall. If anything, I blame the way Modern Drummer selects its winners, not the people who win the award.
ToTheConquered 9 months ago
@LaughingOutKraut your a gronk no other words to describe how stupid you sound and look , i'm glad i have the pleasure of not knowing you personally
ilovepwd 9 months ago
@LaughingOutKraut But he isn't a great Jazz drummer, he is a Metal drummer, therefore your argument is invalid.
hjspartan117 9 months ago
@hjspartan117 What? No! Did you even read my comment? If so, you didn't seem to understand it.
LaughingOutKraut 9 months ago
@LaughingOutKraut so if it isnt jazz its not art....is the point ur trying to make here? o.o
OGTheDemon 9 months ago
@OGTheDemon No.
LaughingOutKraut 9 months ago
@LaughingOutKraut Well does he look like a jazz drummer? No. Speed and technicality is what makes a metal drummer a great metal drummer, and that's what he has. If you jazz drummers don't recognize that, then just don't comment on metal drummer's videos.
XxStrongDrums1996xX 9 months ago
@XxStrongDrums1996xX I'm not a Jazz drummer. In fact, you would rather consider me a Metal drummer, than a Jazzer. But that doesn't keep me from knowing what's tasteful and what's not.
LaughingOutKraut 9 months ago
@LaughingOutKraut I think you'll find that you underestimate the power of YouTube compression. See this live and he definite does dynamics. In fact you can still hear through the layer of compression that there are dynamics there... so whats your excuse?
GrumpyGrebo 8 months ago