Pro-choice Slavery

[xxSophiexSmithxx]

I thought you where going to talk about wifes who where forced by their husbands to have a child, a form of slavery, Pro-lifers seem to think that women arent 'human' that their incubators. I think its sick how people relate abortion to slaves. The slaves lived a life of suffering, torment torture etc You cannot compare abortion where people have a choice to slavery where they were treated like dirt and had no say what so ever.

[vidfreak56]

People trust that a fetus isnt a human(it is a member of the specias homo sapiens)? But really, who cares? Doesnt mean anything. Slavery doesnt exist because we went to war over it, not because it was wrong(even afterwards blacks were considered inferior even by the so called "freedom fighters"). If you dont like abortion, then goto war over it (that wont happen because the majority wont support it). Otherwise please do stfu all ready.

[RLhockey203]

@pigsticker860 whats going to kill us is over population... human population has nearly DOUBLED since 1960, the end is not "nigh"

[Rockioe]

@pigsticker860 You are wrong...WHY?

You trust in a humanism(the world's selfish organization) rather than trusting the LIVING GOD for all your needs and that of all others. SEEM SIMPLE???

HE provides all your needs according to HIS glorious riches in Christ JESUS~~~Phil.4:19!!!

Trust HIM today and celebrate with HIM life. LIFE WHAT A BEAUTIFUL CHOICE!!!

[MrsNiky5]

If your born a human , you must be a human before birth.

[Rockioe]

@MrsNiky5***EXCELLENT POINT*** Thank you so much. Thumbs up!!!!!!!

[greenlover42020]

people like this forget that the pro lifer was once the pro choicer for slavery....stop human rights for all the fetus is a part of her body not anyone else's she dies the baby can not continue to grow into a human...pro choice all day im black no slave just believe that everyone should be able to choose what they feel as long as it doesn't impose on anyone...we act like we are rational thinkers when most people are bible thumpers who base their values and morals on the bible god killed babies

[4lome]

2. A mother's life will never be demanded to save the life of her baby. Prior to Roe, no state outlawed abortion necessary to save the life of the mother. The critical element is intent. For example, if in saving the life of the mother the child's life is lost, the intent to kill the child is removed. That means murder by abortion, which is the deliberate and intentional taking of the unborn life, has not occurred.

[4lome]

1. There is no hidden clause in the Constitution that gives a woman the right to kill her unborn child. That means abortion laws are a result of judicial activism, not the will of the people. To the contrary, most Americans do not support current abortion law.

[cuppycakemunsters]

you're just ASSUMING that pro-choice people are pro-choice because society is handing it to them. you're wrong. i'm pro-choice because i have the facts, and reason. people aren't pro-choice just because of conforming, dumbass.

[ilikebeer]

to anyone that is pro-choice, I ask you to read this tinyurl com/6ygkr7p . don't worry it's not a virus I shortened the link only to make things a little bit easier... actually, pro-choice or not, I think everyone should read this..

[blastingcaps]

The amazing thing about all of this is the staggering level of irony involved in your slavery argument considering you are trying to essentially lay claim to another humans body. By telling women what they can an cannot do to their bodies, you have come closer to being an attempted slave master than ANYBODY in the modern age. you don't and shouldn't have the right to tell the other half of the population what they can an cannot do with their bodies.

[blastingcaps]

congratulations on framing your argument in the most crass and cowardly way thinkable at the present moment. See what you are doing here is using black folks very real (and very over) struggle for freedom to make your leap of faith argument so you can, like an ignorant liberal coward, call anybody who disagrees with you a racist or hope that you can implicitly imply as much. Most people who support a womans right to choose do it just for THAT reason. Choice.

[Frodnek]

Hey! Quit pointing at me its rude. Also...I wonder what you are trying to tell us by shooting your video in front of your bookshelf. Thats all

[blastingcaps]

@Frodnek haha

[mylittlebraincelI]

What a persuasive argument. (NOT)

[dragonpat666]

..just because someone feels more compassion for a woman and her personal choice does not mean the one who has compassion for the unborn is more compassionate then the other or is more "righteous" different sitiuations move people to be compassionate.. i have compassion for the woman, the person sitting right next to me that is in doubt, trauma and faced with difficult decisions. my compassion leads me to make sure she is allowed to make her own decisions in this situation.

[TJnJadasmommy]

Just so you dont think Im getting "killing" and "termination" confused Let me put those definitions as well

Killing: to deprive of life : cause the death of

Termination: end in time or existence : conclusion the termination of life. 2. : the last part of a word

Same thing, it has the same end result. ENDING OF LIFE, as in death, as in died, as in passed away.

[TJnJadasmommy]

Again look...

Infanticide:. The act of killing an infant Abortion:is the termination of a pregnancy by the removal or expulsion of a fetus or embryo from the uterus, resulting in or caused by its death. So this what is the difference between the two

INFANT+BEING HUMAN+KILLING=INFANTICIDE

FETUS/EMBRYO+NOT BEING HUMAN+TERMINATION=ABORTION

Yet this fetus is only an infant OUTSIDE the womb. Right, that makes sense. LOL NOT, just an excuse an overlook for killing/murdering a HUMAN FETUS

[TJnJadasmommy]

Look here...

Infant:A child in the earliest period of life, especially before he or she can walk.

Fetus: the developing young in the uterus, specifically the unborn offspring in the postembryonic period, in humans from nine weeks after fertilization until birth.

These are the EXACT same thing, only difference being fetus is unborn and the infant is born. Tell me exactly HOW it matters more of a life to a born as opposed to unborn. THERE is no difference, ADMIT it.

[TJnJadasmommy]

Oh this is hilarious, I just looked up the "medical definition of a fetus" look at this and tell me if something isnt right.

Fetus: the developing young in the uterus, specifically the unborn offspring in the postembryonic period, in humans from nine weeks after fertilization until birth.

The developing YOUNG in the uterus in HUMANS. This is how its legal friends. Its not a developing human or infant or person. It is just development of YOUNG. By not acknowledging it as HUMAN just young it legal

[killforfiend]

I agree with you but I gotta say that it is ones choice to have an undeveloped fetus aborted, there are more pro's than cons to it as well, for instance abortion is proven to having crime dropped (ex. mama had a baby cant find the time to get proper care and money so mama sell drugs, drugs fuck people up, and the fucked up people do stupid shit for money to use it for buying drugs, more lives get ruined instead of 1) and don't forget the stem cells that could help so many ill people.

[dragonpat666]

@killforfiend it is very true that abortions makes crime go down. study the situation in romania where abortion was out lawed then like 20 years later crime hit the roof, abandoned children skyrocketed. child abuse skyrocketed, etc.. all the bad things began to multiply but in countries that had illegalized abortions then legalized it, the crime went down, the number of child abuse cases dropped, the number of children in orphanages dropped. if abortion is so evil, then why so much hell..

[dragonpat666]

@killforfiend ...breaks loose when it is illegalized then things get better and more balanced when it is legalized?

[killforfiend]

@dragonpat666 oh yeah, alot of people are ignorant to see it that way, and the truth is one big slap in the face. mostly the christian religion followers (not all, Most) :)

[killforfiend]

@dragonpat666 oh yeah, alot of people are ignorant to see it that way, and the truth is one big slap in the face. mostly the christian religion followers (not all, Most) :) we have so many problems in the world right now, its ridiculous how pointless war needs to be intact when we have civil wars going on in other countries as well as in our own streets of America, do those ignoramuses really think an unborn and undeveloped life can amount to 3 million innocent victims?

[fodabonita]

damn, good perspective my friend. this will definately add to the debate.

how do you feel about cases of rape, incest, or when the mother will die due to complications unless they abort the baby?

[beautifulday01]

Yeah, and did you know that most of the doctors are pro choice? Ever wondered why it is like that? They have seen enough chldren with developmental anomalities, which could of have avoided, they have seen enough woman who made aborions when abortion was illegal, and they have serious healt problems and they can't have children anymore, or have an infection. I think you are ignorant, hove can you possibly deny mothers freedom of choice and her choice to not have a child, there are many reasons.

[Amazonasdude]

5*****

[NewPhilosopher]

The unborn baby is human, but it is not a person by the definition I use. The definition of person-hood is a philosophical one. There are even some adult non-persons. For example people who have suffered such serious brain damage that their organs are used for transplant. They are still human, that is why we can transplant their organs. I think that person-hood lies on a spectrum rather than yes they are a person or no they are not.

[dragonpat666]

how is prochoice slavery? no, prolife is slavery cause it does not advocate a choice.

[TJnJadasmommy]

@dragonpat666 says:how is prochoice slavery? no, prolife is slavery cause it does not advocate a choice.

You just contradicted yourself there smarty-pants. You have forgotten there is more than one "human" involved in those called "choice". Oh yes there is ANOTHER human involved dont doubt that. You are just angry because he made a valid point of slavery and used this point to include prochoice. Im sorry but murder/killing/abortion is not a option or a choice. Think about it.

[dragonpat666]

@TJnJadasmommy its an option and a choice everywhere on earth and it is silly to compare abortion to slavery. true, it is a social issue but not a civil rights one and embryos/feti DO NOT have choices. you mind you womb and i'll mind mine!

[TJnJadasmommy]

@dragonpat666 it is silly to compare to slavery to abortion? As silly a comparing it to "murder" and/or "killing"? Just because the child has no choices does NOT mean it is not entitled to one. Spare me the law says this, the law says that. Tell me abortion is not murder/killing go look at an infant and tell me this infant is not human. Tell me inside the womb up until 9 mnths BEFORE birth is not a human just human DNA. Same as a fingernail, then tell me its not human.

[dragonpat666]

@TJnJadasmommy if you manhandle a woman trying to keep her from aborting her fetus what will happen to you? you will be charged with assault! and might get your ass beat by her family/friends.  you cannot over ride a womans will, body and decision just to save her fetus. you cannot save a fetus from the ultimate will of the woman carrying it and that is the main difference between abortion and slavery.

[TJnJadasmommy]

@dragonpat666 I agree that it is a main difference between abortion and slavery. I am just trying to get a point across. I would never manhandle a woman to keep her from aborting/killing/murdering her unborn child. But what I would do is try to talk to her, to reason with her. To make her see what she is doing or going to do is wrong, though if she still chose abortion I would let her go. Hoping all the while she will stop on her own before it's too late. That would be all I could do.

[TJnJadasmommy]

@dragonpat666 Also just so you don't misunderstand me. When I say talk, I mean just that, talk. When I say reason, I mean just that, reason. I would not yell and scream and say she's terrible or she's a horrible person who deserves to die. Because more than likely she doesn't entirely know what she is doing, and how it could affect her and her unborn. I wouldn't want to take away her right to choose. I would want her to KNOW exactly what abortion entails. I would want her to change her mind.

[dragonpat666]

@TJnJadasmommy great post! nothing wrong with encouraging women to give birth but creating an illegal enviornment where jail is threatened and women feel forced and to birth and scorned is not cool.

[TJnJadasmommy]

@dragonpat666 An illegal enviornment where jail is threatened? Women feeling forced to birth? Me scorning? Look if valuing a child's life over the mother makes her feel "forced to birth" is HER PROBLEM. I dont want it illegal for EVERY woman just some women. If she values her life, morals, whatever over the child's then SHE has a serious issue. That's what Im saying. You obviously share these same values as those women. We are fighting a losing battle arguing when niether will change their mind.

[dragonpat666]

@TJnJadasmommy im deffinitely no changing my mind and how is it that you valuing a fetus over a grown womans life, decisions, and cercumstances mitigate her right to value herself above that of a fetus? I put value on my life; not you. you can value whatever from a distance, its ok to have an opinion...just not one you should be able to force on my very biology. my uterus, my life, my chioice.

[TJnJadasmommy]

@dragonpat666 I am also not changing my mind. To answer your question, if any woman value's her life above her own child, that is pure selfishness. That is not just my opinion but a fact as well. It is pure selfishness to value your own life, over another, but espically a child. Can you deny it? If it is your opinion to value your life above mine, then it is your opinion and your own decision. Ever heard of common courtesy? I bet you have, but don't do it. I could be wrong but I doubt it.

[dragonpat666]

@TJnJadasmommy not trying to change your mind. have you ever heard of survival? did you know that human instinct to survive is the most powerfull one on this earth? some folks tend to confuse selfishness with survival and that is ok cause you calling me "selfish" don't mean a hill of beans to me. did you know some animals will self-abort if the enviornment is not suitable to bring another life into it? the same apparatus opperates in us humans. are animals selfish? neither are we.

[dragonpat666]

@TJnJadasmommy her problem, her uterus and her abortion if she so chooses. since the like of you care nothing of women we have to be about caring for ourselves.

[TJnJadasmommy]

@dragonpat666 Fair enough, one has to care for the other. I can say the same to you. Since the like of you care nothing for the unborn, or more about the woman, whichever the case someone has to care for them.

[dragonpat666]

@TJnJadasmommy theres only one person qualified to care for the unborn and that is the woman. no matter how bad i would want to keep a woman from aborting, if that is her will, i can't stop her. now, i can stop her from killing her born children and would be in legal right but how am i supposed to stop her from killing ( it is a killing) her unborn? if i tried to contain her i would be charged with assault! her baby in her uterus is all her choice.

[TJnJadasmommy]

@dragonpat666 A baby isn't a choice.

[dragonpat666]

@TJnJadasmommy no a fetus is not. its the byproduct by which a choice can be made. only the woman should make this choice, not the government, not the freakin catholic church....and certainly not YOU.

[TJnJadasmommy]

@dragonpat666 Oh I see. So a fetus isn't human, it's only a byproduct?

Dang, and all this time I thought a fetus was human! What was I thinking?

Thanks for setting me straight bud.

LOL

[dragonpat666]

@TJnJadasmommy its human in development. it has not rights above the woman carryin it. if the carriers life is in danger because of the pregnancy and their is no other way to save both, the fetus must go; if carrying the fetus causes the mother emotional trauma or is the result of a criminal act and the carrier does not want to bring it to term, the fetus must go. the mothers well being comes FIRST. and that includes emotional, mental as well as for a life saving event. period.

[TJnJadasmommy]

@dragonpat666 Well let's just hope it's a mommy with some common sense. A loving mommy, caring, thoughtful.

NOT a selfish mommy.

Let's hope she has compassion.

Not many people do.

[dragonpat666]

@TJnJadasmommy everyones concept of "compassion" is not the same. selfishness is often confused with self preservation which is instinctual. i guess people don't know what compassion really is...especially when it concerns the person sitting across from them. people think that places like el salvadore with their anti abortion stance and laws in place are "compassionate" but many others say their not. compassion is mostly dependedent on perception..

[TJnJadasmommy]

@dragonpat666 I agree everyone's definition of compassion varies, without a doubt. With that being said my definition of compassion is, thinking of others before yourself, crying for someone when they are hurt, someone wiling to put theirself in another's shoes and so on.

I agree caring for an unborn as opposed to the woman doesn't make that person better or more righteous. But someone has to care for the unborn, stand up for them and speak for them. A woman on the other hand is very capable of

[TJnJadasmommy]

@dragonpat666 speaking for herself, defending herself from harm. A unborn child is not, they have no voice, can't defend for themselves. To me, I'd rather help defend the defenseless, speak for the speachless, fight for the harmless. I'm not saying because I defend the unborn, you defend the woman, that it makes me better than you. No one is better than anyone period. To me it's about defending the one who needs it the most, like an unborn child. The unborn is supposedly blameless yet they're th

[TJnJadasmommy]

@dragonpat666 the ones that suffer. I look at it like this, that child didn't ask to be conceived. It didn't ask that woman to lay down and consent to sex, and be conceived. It's not the child's fault it's the woman and mans fault, but guess who suffers/dies w/e? Some women, I suppose yes have good reasons for doing what they do. But others abuse abortion rights and use it as birth-control. those I have no respect for, those I feel no pity.

[tpacemaker2]

@dragonpat666

not a good comparison. There was a choice in slavery, just like abortion now. You could either own slaves/abort babies or not. We know now with slavery that the choice to do the wrong thing should not have been a legal choice.

[TheGreatRL]

Thank you for further enlarging the ignorance of America by falsely claiming that abortion is absolutely no different than slavery or the holocaust. Also by trying to claim that a living, breathing, taxpaying human is no different than what is technically a clump of cells.

[StTigray1]

BTW I agree with you about Abortion,

[StTigray1]

If conservatives in this country truly fought for the ideals of freedom in that no matter what color you are then you can get ahead. If that was TRULY their goal then the conservative message would be unstoppable. This country is so steeped in racist thinking that I see no end in sight. I remember after 911 our country was so unified, I left to go to war and when I came back I found a different country. A country that looked down on me for the color of my skin.

[GerritandMegan]

Emo kid here, yea thats right. i cut myself. ive tryed to kill myself 4 times. and im 14. there is no god. you know why? because no matter how much i hurt someone.. no matter how much i take.. steal from anyone. no matter how many therapists.. docters.. people i fuck up.. i just wont fucking die. if i want to kill some meaningless undeveluped chunk of meat.. i will. howbout that chicken you ate for last night dinner. that was an animals child.. that pork. were all animals.. your pathetic.

[xxdiogenescynicxx]

You made some excellent arguments. As an atheist I am completely frustrated with the prochoice people. These people do not realize that this is a eugenics movement, I refer them to Margaret Sangers writings and they just dismiss them. I show them what the Hippocratic Oath says about abortion and they dismiss that too. Evolutionary biology tells us that we are here to propagate our species. So why should we kill our offspring? They dismiss that too.

[mp3mcguire]

this is a comment for your chemtrail vid. It is to hurt us. I see these everyday, I've emailed. called, and walked into my local news channels to getthem to invstigate this, tey want NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!! It's not for global warming, cause that a hoax. 30 yrs ago, it was global cooling. Global warming is a massive propaganda campaign to make everyone believe the world s going to end, unless we tax carbon and CONTROL YOUR EVERY MOVE!!!

[joeb0]

Mp3mcguire, the reason they put aluminium in the jet fuel is to have better cell phone reception. Aluminium bounces microwaves more easily from the earth to the satellite or microwave tower.

[sarakai]

hmmm, slavery, being forced into something against your will, like forced gestation, how strange.

[margybaysayhey]

slavery isnt that, slavery is the dehumanizing of someone based on anything for the benefit for a specific group.

[margybaysayhey]

the fact that you have decided to use vile words for the support of your 'arguement', shows that you have no reason, and only ignorance. at least some of the other pro-abortion people have some what of an arguement, still weak, but they at least dont result to words that prove no point, and show lack of reason.

[menareangrynow]

The pro-choice argument in the 19th century was, "it's ones choice to choose to own slaves or not." The pro-choice argument in the 21th century is, "it's ones choice to choose to kill your baby or not." They're all out of their mind. They're a bunch of inhuman monsters.

[AVoiceCrying33]

Every human is worthy of life, That is why I think health care is a universal right and not a priveledge of the wealthy but To have total disregard for the thousands and thousands of hearts that are snuffed out by abortion is being blind and they are killing the possibility of health care reform with their stuborn blindness

[healthnbeauty1]

You (once again) hit the hammer on the nail. It's so true!!

Just recently the dumb senate pass a bill that will allow pay for abortions!!! THAT'S A DISGRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lorra41]

Spot on once again Gerard. I can't begin to tell you just how many pro-choicers I've come across that believe because abortion is legal...than it's not murder...or...because the abortion activists claim the unborn to not be human beings, than they're not. It's clear that in order to be pro-choice ignorance is a must.

[cflf1337]

Cheers for the vid, didn't Ron Paul say something like this about slavery? I seem to remember someone saying that he did.

[Perfectibilisti]

There are 5 stars in T*R*U*T*H*.

[leachyau]

Very true, The question must be asked if a fetus isn't human, What is it.

[wirezworks]

Save The Babies BROTHER.

Another Great VID.

Take Care.

[ThomasJS1]

Well said,

[sumayahrose]

i loved this video.......i get into so much trouble in school for being so pro life..........!!!!!!!!!..

People actually find it offensive. ???? Interesting concept...........I kinda love the fact we have people in the world! Makes for an interesting cup of tea!

[taffygirlgood]

Well put & so very true.... 5*****

[nocturne1980]

TRUTH!

[bellakazza]

Thanks for giving out this info. God Bless.