I do love the MP5 and both the Sterling. In Combat the MP5 would probably be better than the sterling but say a stealth mission I might just go sterling...
At first,greetings from your fans from Germany,you are awesome! The German KSK often uses the MP 5 SD,with integrated Silencer. Is there a big difference to the Version with replaceable Silencer used in your vid?
@spongi45 Hi and thanks. Yes, any intergral suppressor will have better sound suppression over one that is externally attached. Containment and slow dispersion of hot gases is the key.
@c2builder I was just wondering how do you feel about the tv show sons of guns. When I found you on youtube I stopped watching "Sons of guns" You are awesome !!
@TheMrBoar Thanks. The NFA community as a whole has a mixed view of the TV show, but I really think it is a negative impact they portray for the Class 2 firearms manufacturer. There is too many problems about the show and the cast to get into here. Lets just say that I and other Class 2's that I know are not impressed.
Now this is my kind of video :-D Just wondering, does the L34A1 use a shorter/ported barrel? Also can the suppressor be removed for cleaning etc? would also make a cool video :-j
@joehunt1980 Yes it does have a short barrel which is also drilled with holes to distribute the hot gases throughout the suppressor baffles. I may do a detailed vid soon.
@sharpshooternick If you're in the market for some pre-86 civilian legal MGs, you'll have to have at least $4000 saved up (and that'll get you a Mac 10, or if you're really lucky, a Stemple Sten Mk 2), and I can point you in the direction of some for sale. They're not particularly hard to find, but the expense involved keeps them from being a feature in every gun collection.
You need to take out the MP5SD, that thing is way quieter than both of those two guns, and I mean WAAAAY quieter. You basically just hear clicks and the empty casings hit the ground.
Either one is reaaaaallly quiet. Suppressors are supposed to merely make it tough to find your location anyways if I am right but no suppressor (or silencer, ppl seem to use em interchangeably) will make a whisper quiet shot unless its subsonic, and yeah, you can hear the bolt smack. Still far quieter then the POW POW you hear in the back :D
Based on your video, the Sterling is the quieter unit. If one were to do the same as some of the suppressed Sten guns and fit a bronze bolt assy, the 'clack" of the bolt, as demonstrated by the video, would be greatly reduced. I should think that there were some surprised faces, at the "antique' Sterling being much the quieter unit. Your effort is much appreciated.
Yeah, esp. w/ subsonic ammo (& probably a bit of arctic oil or Break-Free), the Stirling sounds quieter. From what I've seen, the better modern weapon would be the MP5SD.
I'd also like to see you do a comparison between the M60 and the MAG58.
Does adding a silencer increase Range and accuracy because of the extended barrel length? or does it lose Range because the gas is vented when it hits the silencer.
@blondbassist It loses range but i dont believe it loses any accuracy, but i do know that the gas being vented makes it less efective at longer ranges, but u shuldnt notice any difference out to medium range
Enjoyed the video. It was nice to hear how effective these suppressors are.
As much as I enjoyed watching the videos I would have been rather unhappy to be the camera man at the point of the video where the gun is pointed, not directly at the lens but, in the neighborhood of the lens.
Being a mechanic I find your videos of gun disassemblies and rebuilds particularly interesting. Thanks for the good work.
sterling is definitely quieter on the vid, I wonder how it would stack up against and MP5-SD instead of just an A2 with a suppressor. Not trolling, genuinely curious
@C2builder great find, and i agree, its quieter then the HK., jus an outstanding weapon u have in the sterling, i cant say enough, and i love full auto from the open bolt, hell, it sounds like a rimfire..shes a keeper:) ttyl
It looks like the Sterling has less recoil, and stays on taget better as well. Is that the nature of the open bolt slamming forward, or a weight thing? As I can not make up which I like better, I will just have to have both. Take checks?!?!?
The Sterling is way quieter even though it shoots at an open bolt. The HK is much louder than the Sterling but it would still be nice to have the HK Mp5 for us in Iraq and Afghan. Clearing houses is kind of harder with a M4. It is much better for close contact. Nice video of both weapons.
Many times old is better than new. I was told by someone in the cdn military that they didn't re-issue THE FAL / CIA1 because it would appear that adopting the m4 was a mistake.
Could you give a compare and contrast between the L2A3 vs L34A1? What are some of the cons of the L34A1. I have a MK4 and am contemplating converting it (with an additional form 4 of course :) THANKS!!
@C2builder And to add Could you do a Compare and Contrast with AusSteyr vs M16? I am Aussie and have used AusSteyrs before very accurate so if America has a better thing to compare then M-16 then try that. Give it a go us Aussies would love to see a good comparison
Hi C2builder yeah the Sterling is definatly quieter , im wondering if you watch the vid closely your getting much more smoke around the breach of the mp5, wonder if thats is where your getting the extra noise from technically the bolt on the mp5 is closed and when the cartridge goes off it then open eith the sterling its going off just as the bolt is closing and then has too open so just a bit more gas is being pushed down that muzzle , Really all you hear from the Sterling is mehanical
Hi looking closely on the Mp5 there is a lot more smoke around the breech than the sterling, maybe your getting more noise from the gasses escaping there, The sterling is definatly quieter the most noise you hear is all mechanical,
And oldrocketscientist said the magazines on the sterling no one anywhere has yet come up with anything too beat them not bad for something designed 66 years ago
I think the Sterling is more quiet. It seems that most of the guns with an intregal supressor are more quiet than those with a can attached to the muzzle. This is another great video showing lots of detail and different camera angles. Thanks for posting it!
i have shot both a KGB armament L34a1 and a MP5SD and the sterling has it by a hair in the quiet dept. The Sterling eclipses the HK in reliability, and ease of cleaning. The Sterling has the best mags made for any firearm on earth with roller ball bearing followers, and in my opinion the Sterling just shoots better. The only advantage that i see that the HK has over the Sterling is the availability of a beta drum mag.
a supressed .22 mp5 (gsg-5) would be the order of the day.....would be vert quiet, reliable and more accurate then 9mm versions.....downside because its .22 you would have to quite close to your target to get kills.
PS: You ever tried a Cola Bottle or a Potatoe as Silencer?? It realy works,the decibel count is nearly the Same with org Supressor or Cola Bottle.They tested this in a TV Show
@Weedus2, 147gr on the Mp5 and 115gr with the Sterling.
Yes I have done the Cola bottle thing, but it's still illegal to do so. One of my favorite sayings is; "Two can keep a secret if one of them is dead". Remember that.
The built-in Sterling suppressor on this model is of the old original design and doesn't use baffles like modern suppressors, so no it wouldn't work very well and might damage it.
I have to say i'd prefer the sterling over the mp5 for it's surpressed volume and for the controlability on full auto, this may be because i'm british;)
The sterling sounded quieter in the video. Thanks for taking the suppressor off at the end, I've had a hard time finding youtube videos with both suppressed and unsuppressed on the same weapon it was nice to make the comparison. Furthermore thanks for posting all the 1st person machine gun videos.
Have you ever seen or shot a British WW2 silenced carbine called a Delisle it was made from parts of other weapons,cut down Lee stock,and modified bolt action,fired a 45ACP,from a Thompson or Browning mag,legend has it this was the quietest shooting weapon of the 20th century?
Is there possibility that the Hk roller lock slams harder against the barrel than that of the Sterling. Eitherway, should it really matter if the weapon fires from an open or closed bolt? The Sterling slams before fireing the cartrige, the MP5 after. Our Rk95s had a switch wich closes the gastube, intended for use with rifle grenades but also when fireing with a supressor on. You only get one shot and have to reload afterwards, but you eliminate that noise from the bolt coming back forward
The biggest drawback to the open bolt subgun for suppressor use is not just the noise from the bolt slamming closed, it will also throw off your point of aim. It is obvious that the Sterling is quieter mainly due to the suppressor being intergral with the guns reciever tube. Thanks.
The HK Mp5 had two types of mags, straight and curved, both holding 30rds. I prefer the original German straight mags on the Mp5, they are made of thicker material and are more reliable.
Not really sure how many were made but it was alot less than the standard Sterling L2A3 model. This one has a serial number showing made in 1976, so they were still making them then.
The HK is defenitely the most advanced design, and mechanically better, but you are after all comparing a integrally suppressed gun (L34A1) vs. a subgun with a barrel mounted can. If you'd got your hand on one of the MP5SDx versions, i'm certain those would be more quiet.
This right here. The Sterling is integrally supressed and therefore has significant report reduction. I'm sure an MP5SD would be significantly quieter than either the Sterling or an MP5 with added supressor.
The main reason I stacked these two up against each other is because the H&K would have an advantage over the Sterling and it's open bolt operation, yes the HKMp5SD would be quieter but I thought these two were a good challange. I'm still more impressed with the Sterling, but I'm being influenced by the history.
Yep, that's what I thought. Never used one, but I think it has considerably more range than let's say an open bolt UZI (which I have used quite a lot).Probably it has a longer barrel than most second generation mps too.
Actually no. The Sterling works well with subsonic or supersonic ammo. The Mp5 does better with 147gr as opposed to a lighter bullet like 115gr for sound suppression.
Straight stick mag? Your the first one I've seen use one of those in a while! :D
The Sterling is definitely has less of a discharge sound, however, I don't think that's the reason that it was replaced. What are the specifics for the reasons for replacement?
I prefer the straught mags for a 9mm Mp5, they just seem to work better than the curved. The Sterling has been around since the late 1940's and the utility use for them was just not that great for service other than sentry removal and clandestine operations. The HK is a better weapon mechanically and does provide better range and ballistics.
MP5 with integral is much quieter and smoother. That Sterling had a larger volume silencer and that makes difference.
dibblydooda 1 month ago
I do love the MP5 and both the Sterling. In Combat the MP5 would probably be better than the sterling but say a stealth mission I might just go sterling...
Cozsack 2 months ago
Yes - the Sterling
Twirlyhead 2 months ago
the Sterling for sure
theclockmace 2 months ago
At first,greetings from your fans from Germany,you are awesome! The German KSK often uses the MP 5 SD,with integrated Silencer. Is there a big difference to the Version with replaceable Silencer used in your vid?
spongi45 2 months ago
@spongi45 Hi and thanks. Yes, any intergral suppressor will have better sound suppression over one that is externally attached. Containment and slow dispersion of hot gases is the key.
C2builder 2 months ago
I think a MP5SD would have been a better comparison (competition) to the integrally suppressed Sterling. As it stands the Sterling wins.
SturmAKS74U 2 months ago
@c2builder I was just wondering how do you feel about the tv show sons of guns. When I found you on youtube I stopped watching "Sons of guns" You are awesome !!
TheMrBoar 2 months ago
@TheMrBoar Thanks. The NFA community as a whole has a mixed view of the TV show, but I really think it is a negative impact they portray for the Class 2 firearms manufacturer. There is too many problems about the show and the cast to get into here. Lets just say that I and other Class 2's that I know are not impressed.
C2builder 2 months ago
MP5 4ever
kirtash444 2 months ago
I would agree. The Sterling actually makes less noise than the Mp5. Totally surprises me. Thanks for another great video!
kyokogodai 2 months ago
Now this is my kind of video :-D Just wondering, does the L34A1 use a shorter/ported barrel? Also can the suppressor be removed for cleaning etc? would also make a cool video :-j
joehunt1980 2 months ago
@joehunt1980 Yes it does have a short barrel which is also drilled with holes to distribute the hot gases throughout the suppressor baffles. I may do a detailed vid soon.
C2builder 2 months ago
i still dont get how people get full auto guns. i thought the gun had to be pre 1986 so where do u find these old guns at
sharpshooternick 3 months ago
@sharpshooternick hes a class 3 dealer can d calss 2 builder he has the ability to legally own post 86 machine guns
TheAlexagius 2 months ago
@sharpshooternick If you're in the market for some pre-86 civilian legal MGs, you'll have to have at least $4000 saved up (and that'll get you a Mac 10, or if you're really lucky, a Stemple Sten Mk 2), and I can point you in the direction of some for sale. They're not particularly hard to find, but the expense involved keeps them from being a feature in every gun collection.
Thatevilmidget 2 months ago
mp5 is louder
gr8one93 3 months ago
the germans make the best weapons
gauloisesCLASSIC 3 months ago
You need to take out the MP5SD, that thing is way quieter than both of those two guns, and I mean WAAAAY quieter. You basically just hear clicks and the empty casings hit the ground.
bellator11 3 months ago
an HK MP5 SD6 would be quiter than any gun and u hear is the bolt and the shell casing hiting the ground.
treverlid87 4 months ago
I think I want of these seriously... Did you have to call HK to get it?
TheMango121 4 months ago
@TheMango121 you can buy from a friend,a gun show, a website, all those different things.
endwar589 3 months ago
You need Mp5SD to compare
kvasnekola 4 months ago
Either one is reaaaaallly quiet. Suppressors are supposed to merely make it tough to find your location anyways if I am right but no suppressor (or silencer, ppl seem to use em interchangeably) will make a whisper quiet shot unless its subsonic, and yeah, you can hear the bolt smack. Still far quieter then the POW POW you hear in the back :D
shkotay 5 months ago
Grate job man...
Greekmarine11 5 months ago
i believe its becuse of the blowback on the mp5 silincer
plus around 1:13 you can see someone "Took Aim" at the roof
GunloverClark 6 months ago
i think that it is louder with the supressor. just my opinion.
ZzRvXzZ 6 months ago
compare it with an hk sd
timmysun1234 7 months ago
Based on your video, the Sterling is the quieter unit. If one were to do the same as some of the suppressed Sten guns and fit a bronze bolt assy, the 'clack" of the bolt, as demonstrated by the video, would be greatly reduced. I should think that there were some surprised faces, at the "antique' Sterling being much the quieter unit. Your effort is much appreciated.
arriviste2020 7 months ago
damn u gotta b ah bold soul 2 stand in front of ah man while he shootin ah gun damn the great footage when ya lifes at hand.....literally
red4285 8 months ago
Yeah, esp. w/ subsonic ammo (& probably a bit of arctic oil or Break-Free), the Stirling sounds quieter. From what I've seen, the better modern weapon would be the MP5SD.
I'd also like to see you do a comparison between the M60 and the MAG58.
bluecollarcanuck 8 months ago
good video,surprised to see the old sterling holding it own
pomplumber 8 months ago
it might have been more even if you used a MP5SD
and also there is a reasonable size difference between the two supressors which should effect there abilities
maxrocks19 8 months ago
"Let's try full automatic and see if it's any quieter"
The american way :D
Hanske90 8 months ago
Does adding a silencer increase Range and accuracy because of the extended barrel length? or does it lose Range because the gas is vented when it hits the silencer.
blondbassist 9 months ago
@blondbassist It loses range but i dont believe it loses any accuracy, but i do know that the gas being vented makes it less efective at longer ranges, but u shuldnt notice any difference out to medium range
nonyobizznaz97531 9 months ago
1:15 looks like someone had to much to drink (gun shots in the roof :P )
dopefish93 11 months ago
Such a deceptively calm and soft sound & recoil
bangalorebully 1 year ago
Dang, you can really see how loud the guns are AFTER he is shooting and trys talking! the audio has to re-adjust for his voice.
Epictrumpet13 1 year ago
Enjoyed the video. It was nice to hear how effective these suppressors are.
As much as I enjoyed watching the videos I would have been rather unhappy to be the camera man at the point of the video where the gun is pointed, not directly at the lens but, in the neighborhood of the lens.
Being a mechanic I find your videos of gun disassemblies and rebuilds particularly interesting. Thanks for the good work.
blue2dada 1 year ago
sterling is definitely quieter on the vid, I wonder how it would stack up against and MP5-SD instead of just an A2 with a suppressor. Not trolling, genuinely curious
darth0nion 1 year ago
You should try the MP5 SD
Polenar 1 year ago
that sterling is the quietest 9mm ive ever seen. WOW,
MultiSr16 1 year ago
is that L34A1 original , spiral baffle or modern ?
GriMty420 1 year ago
@GriMty420 This Sterling is all original, with the old style spiral baffle, wire mesh screen and brass guide rods. Very effective.
C2builder 1 year ago
@C2builder best sterling ive seen, is it yours>? very nice indeed
MultiSr16 1 year ago
@MultiSr16 Yes.
C2builder 1 year ago
@C2builder great find, and i agree, its quieter then the HK., jus an outstanding weapon u have in the sterling, i cant say enough, and i love full auto from the open bolt, hell, it sounds like a rimfire..shes a keeper:) ttyl
MultiSr16 1 year ago
@C2builder
I've heard that the old Swedish M/45 submachine gun is suppose to be pretty quiet when suppressed.
Supposedly the Navy Seals and other special forces kinda liked it for that reason.
Now that is only a fully automatic gun however.
I mention it since you have the old Sterling there and it does sound more silent over the Mp5.
Then again how does the Mp5 with built in suppressor sound? perhaps that one is less noisy.
Swecan76 11 months ago
@Swecan76 I doubt the built-in suppressor MP-5 would do much better
FPSrUSSRia 9 months ago
@C2builder how much the mp5 costs? thanks in advance
deckeroncrack 7 months ago
@C2builder just awesome does not sound outdated to me ;) .. thanks for the video
GriMty420 1 year ago
All I can say is; How much? and GIVE IT TO ME!!!!
It looks like the Sterling has less recoil, and stays on taget better as well. Is that the nature of the open bolt slamming forward, or a weight thing? As I can not make up which I like better, I will just have to have both. Take checks?!?!?
superdave2112 1 year ago
Very Well Tested but did you consider that the Sterling's Suppressor
is Integral and the MP5's is an add on. I Truthfully would have used an
MP5SD for comparison to the L34.
jweathers131 1 year ago
Out of curiosity, is the Mp5 still used nowadays? Or do you think it'll be replaced by the UMP, MP7, or G36?
Haha1stAccount 1 year ago
@Haha1stAccount lol yes it is
the mp5 is used all over the place SAS,swat,gsg9,alot of police use all over the globe
camerl2009 1 year ago
the mp5 sd is much quieter, it converts supersonic ammo to subsonic
TacticalSerenity17 1 year ago
The Sterling is way quieter even though it shoots at an open bolt. The HK is much louder than the Sterling but it would still be nice to have the HK Mp5 for us in Iraq and Afghan. Clearing houses is kind of harder with a M4. It is much better for close contact. Nice video of both weapons.
lo12311 1 year ago
GOOD VIDEO...like the way you took the video. i have used the sterling version, and i feel inspite of its age it shoots well..
nungleppam 1 year ago
The sterling seems like it is even more controllable than the Mp5 :D
gargmel 1 year ago
Many times old is better than new. I was told by someone in the cdn military that they didn't re-issue THE FAL / CIA1 because it would appear that adopting the m4 was a mistake.
l2a3sterling 1 year ago
Could you give a compare and contrast between the L2A3 vs L34A1? What are some of the cons of the L34A1. I have a MK4 and am contemplating converting it (with an additional form 4 of course :) THANKS!!
alphozo 1 year ago
@alphozo Great suggestion! I think that can be put on the list of things to come.
C2builder 1 year ago
@C2builder And to add Could you do a Compare and Contrast with AusSteyr vs M16? I am Aussie and have used AusSteyrs before very accurate so if America has a better thing to compare then M-16 then try that. Give it a go us Aussies would love to see a good comparison
Thankyou
Keep up Gun Spirit!
oioioi3000 10 months ago
i think the mp5 w/ out the silencer is still quiet for a gun
highwalker339 1 year ago
Hi C2builder yeah the Sterling is definatly quieter , im wondering if you watch the vid closely your getting much more smoke around the breach of the mp5, wonder if thats is where your getting the extra noise from technically the bolt on the mp5 is closed and when the cartridge goes off it then open eith the sterling its going off just as the bolt is closing and then has too open so just a bit more gas is being pushed down that muzzle , Really all you hear from the Sterling is mehanical
ukusagent 1 year ago
Hi looking closely on the Mp5 there is a lot more smoke around the breech than the sterling, maybe your getting more noise from the gasses escaping there, The sterling is definatly quieter the most noise you hear is all mechanical,
And oldrocketscientist said the magazines on the sterling no one anywhere has yet come up with anything too beat them not bad for something designed 66 years ago
ukusagent 1 year ago
the sterling is quieter to me...
boobear1964 1 year ago
I think the Sterling is more quiet. It seems that most of the guns with an intregal supressor are more quiet than those with a can attached to the muzzle. This is another great video showing lots of detail and different camera angles. Thanks for posting it!
sidewindermack 1 year ago
i have shot both a KGB armament L34a1 and a MP5SD and the sterling has it by a hair in the quiet dept. The Sterling eclipses the HK in reliability, and ease of cleaning. The Sterling has the best mags made for any firearm on earth with roller ball bearing followers, and in my opinion the Sterling just shoots better. The only advantage that i see that the HK has over the Sterling is the availability of a beta drum mag.
oldsrocketscientist 1 year ago
a supressed .22 mp5 (gsg-5) would be the order of the day.....would be vert quiet, reliable and more accurate then 9mm versions.....downside because its .22 you would have to quite close to your target to get kills.
hardman476 1 year ago
Great video, very entertaining and informative.
deceptivepanther 2 years ago
damn i love the sterling, such a cool design
10lettername 2 years ago
the sterling was a lower pitched sound harder to detect than the h&k's high pitched "snapping" kind of sound.
bigredonedday 2 years ago
Hello,
Did you used Sub-Sonic Ammo for this Test?
PS: You ever tried a Cola Bottle or a Potatoe as Silencer?? It realy works,the decibel count is nearly the Same with org Supressor or Cola Bottle.They tested this in a TV Show
Weedus2 2 years ago
@Weedus2, 147gr on the Mp5 and 115gr with the Sterling.
Yes I have done the Cola bottle thing, but it's still illegal to do so. One of my favorite sayings is; "Two can keep a secret if one of them is dead". Remember that.
C2builder 2 years ago
@C2builder why is it illeagle?
Jacksack123b 1 year ago
Both sounds about the same in the video, is it possible to run the WWII suppressor wet without damaging it?
5687678 2 years ago
The built-in Sterling suppressor on this model is of the old original design and doesn't use baffles like modern suppressors, so no it wouldn't work very well and might damage it.
C2builder 2 years ago
I have to say i'd prefer the sterling over the mp5 for it's surpressed volume and for the controlability on full auto, this may be because i'm british;)
great vids, thanks for all the info!
Smeg6669 2 years ago
The sterling seems more compact and sleek possibly more ergomatic.
l2a3sterling 2 years ago
The sterling sounded quieter in the video. Thanks for taking the suppressor off at the end, I've had a hard time finding youtube videos with both suppressed and unsuppressed on the same weapon it was nice to make the comparison. Furthermore thanks for posting all the 1st person machine gun videos.
MrJustinreese 2 years ago
You're welcome.
C2builder 2 years ago
Have you ever seen or shot a British WW2 silenced carbine called a Delisle it was made from parts of other weapons,cut down Lee stock,and modified bolt action,fired a 45ACP,from a Thompson or Browning mag,legend has it this was the quietest shooting weapon of the 20th century?
elswick1542 2 years ago
I've only seen pictures of one, they are fairly rare here in the USA. Yes, I heard they were the quietest carbine made.
C2builder 2 years ago
See the 458 SOCOM,new highpower round for ar 15[finally]600 gr bullet,monster round ,available subsonic
bv141a 2 years ago
I think the Sterling is the most quiet. Thats amazing! Keep on shooting and share it with us! :-)
laksemann 2 years ago
Is there possibility that the Hk roller lock slams harder against the barrel than that of the Sterling. Eitherway, should it really matter if the weapon fires from an open or closed bolt? The Sterling slams before fireing the cartrige, the MP5 after. Our Rk95s had a switch wich closes the gastube, intended for use with rifle grenades but also when fireing with a supressor on. You only get one shot and have to reload afterwards, but you eliminate that noise from the bolt coming back forward
Ju87StukaB2 2 years ago
The biggest drawback to the open bolt subgun for suppressor use is not just the noise from the bolt slamming closed, it will also throw off your point of aim. It is obvious that the Sterling is quieter mainly due to the suppressor being intergral with the guns reciever tube. Thanks.
C2builder 2 years ago
Uzi and a MAC-10, both silenced, would be a great one if you have both. :D
FreedomWithFirearms 2 years ago
I am wondering: what is this straight magazine on your MP5 ?
Mopolopy 2 years ago
The HK Mp5 had two types of mags, straight and curved, both holding 30rds. I prefer the original German straight mags on the Mp5, they are made of thicker material and are more reliable.
C2builder 2 years ago
i thought they went to curved mags because they feed better than the straight ones
ealnav 2 years ago
New one to me. Europe still uses the straight mags and they are still in production.
C2builder 2 years ago
well, from this movie the Sterling definitely is more quiet. I would love to know just how many decibels each weapon records.
choctaw111 2 years ago
i think its got to be the sterling! even though that open bolt dose make a wack!
joshboy1st 2 years ago
I think the Sterling is much quieter than the MP5. How does a suppressed Uzi stack up against the two?
TheAKgunner 2 years ago
I'll be doing a shoot-out between the Sterling and the Uzi next. Stay turned and subscribe.
C2builder 2 years ago
thanks for that , how many l34(5?)'s were made ?
darraghtank 2 years ago
Not really sure how many were made but it was alot less than the standard Sterling L2A3 model. This one has a serial number showing made in 1976, so they were still making them then.
C2builder 2 years ago
wow sterling sounds if it is silenced, i nearly didnt hear any sound :O nice red dot sight :) 5*
lhproductions00 2 years ago
Were you using subsonic ammo? It sounded almost like the MP5 was using supersonic ammo.
Blown4banger 2 years ago
147gr in the Mp5, 115gr in the Sterling.
C2builder 2 years ago
The HK is defenitely the most advanced design, and mechanically better, but you are after all comparing a integrally suppressed gun (L34A1) vs. a subgun with a barrel mounted can. If you'd got your hand on one of the MP5SDx versions, i'm certain those would be more quiet.
norwegianwiking 2 years ago
is the mp5SD the one with the built in silencer and different hand guard?
ZIPPIBOY12345 2 years ago
Yes it is, and is a little quieter than the Mp5 with the Gemtech suppressor I was using. I'm try to buy one now. Thanks.
C2builder 2 years ago
This right here. The Sterling is integrally supressed and therefore has significant report reduction. I'm sure an MP5SD would be significantly quieter than either the Sterling or an MP5 with added supressor.
leibstandarte109 2 years ago
The main reason I stacked these two up against each other is because the H&K would have an advantage over the Sterling and it's open bolt operation, yes the HKMp5SD would be quieter but I thought these two were a good challange. I'm still more impressed with the Sterling, but I'm being influenced by the history.
C2builder 2 years ago
The differenced between silenced open bolt and silenced closed bolt is noticeable only in semiauto mode.
Anyway , Builder, how fare can you reach the target with an mp5? Is it more like a carbine?
TheBelva85 2 years ago
The Mp5 is good out to 100yrds, and I think that is based on the fact that European Police do use it as a carbine as well as a subgun.
C2builder 2 years ago
Yep, that's what I thought. Never used one, but I think it has considerably more range than let's say an open bolt UZI (which I have used quite a lot).Probably it has a longer barrel than most second generation mps too.
TheBelva85 2 years ago
were you using subsonic ammo? great video mate
jubbles2343 2 years ago
I was using 147gr in the Mp5, 115gr in the Sterling. Thanks.
C2builder 2 years ago
are those newly made striaght mags for the mp5 or the original ones?
bombboy1000 2 years ago
The straight mags are original H&K, I prefer them over any others.
C2builder 2 years ago
nice weapons my friend
shinymarshtop2 2 years ago
★★★★★
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
nice demo, the differences were amazing!5/5
hakjason 2 years ago
Sterling it was hard but id say sterling
Thtyler 2 years ago 2
Do you have to use subsonic ammo?
fsvaio 2 years ago
Actually no. The Sterling works well with subsonic or supersonic ammo. The Mp5 does better with 147gr as opposed to a lighter bullet like 115gr for sound suppression.
C2builder 2 years ago
Straight stick mag? Your the first one I've seen use one of those in a while! :D
The Sterling is definitely has less of a discharge sound, however, I don't think that's the reason that it was replaced. What are the specifics for the reasons for replacement?
FreedomWithFirearms 2 years ago
I prefer the straught mags for a 9mm Mp5, they just seem to work better than the curved. The Sterling has been around since the late 1940's and the utility use for them was just not that great for service other than sentry removal and clandestine operations. The HK is a better weapon mechanically and does provide better range and ballistics.
C2builder 2 years ago
i think the HK is the best
thatgamerdude616 2 years ago
so which is better?
SuperWeaves 2 years ago
Mh i am surprised sounds like the sterling makes less noisy
FirstSpaceLord 2 years ago
@FirstSpaceLord it has a built in supressor
SuperWeaves 2 years ago