Believe in Evolution?

[TheKaijuCritic94]

it's not that I don't believe in God, but there is so much evidence to prove he doesn't exist. This war of opinions NEEDS to stop.

[hubjubjub]

And about the overwhelming evidence, ive seen most of it disproved.

[HeyImBubProductions]

@hubjubjub you're a fucking moron

[hubjubjub]

@HeyImBubProductions umad bro? haha funny how u are quicker to call me a moron than to actually try to convince me evolution is true. who's really the primitive one here? jit

[HeyImBubProductions]

@hubjubjub I haven't the time or the patience to explain it to you. If you want to learn about evolution I suggest you read "River out of Eden" or another good one is "The Blind Watchmaker" you can download audio versions from Amazon, or you can illegally download torrents. I really like Richards voice it makes it easy for me to concentrate.

I have tried time and time again to explain it to people and to be honest I just don't feel like doing it anymore.

[hubjubjub]

The reason ppl in the UK believe in evolution more then I'm the US is the same reason why there are more black people in Africa. They started there.

[rmp1809]

I believe in God. Okay, I'm ready for the outraged evolutionist out there to tell me why God does not exist. I don't disbelieve evolution, but I see some flaws in a theory. In perfect lab conditions, life has yet to be created in a lab from inorganic material. Also, has evolution stopped? Shouldn't more animals/plants be evolving now? If evolution is fact, does that disprove God? No. If the question of how life began is ever answered, there is still the question of how matter began.

[Venatasur]

I hat eit when my dad says "then why aren't apes evolving today?". and I say "they are". and they say "why aen't there differnet humans then?". I hate my father anyways though....but w/e

[ericleb01]

@Venatasur Maybe you should read up on the mechanics of the Theory and give your father a little well needed talk.

[blackjeffrey1]

also not quite all are transitional, the ones that went extinct due to all being killed and not reproducing aren't

[blackjeffrey1]

how was he racist?

[theyetunusedname]

I think USA is arguably one of the most developed countries in the world mostly because of their 1% best educated fairing very well compared to other countries not because their bottom 50% are particularly clever. I can't image that you could find many creationists who have a degree from MIT, Caltech, Stanford etc.

[RavensaursRex]

I think the reaosn why some members of faith see this as a threat because, if one thing is wrong, then something like Heaven or Hell might also be false and death is only an inky viod. Yeah, scary crap.

Also, I believe that when faced with the question "How did I come into being?" a smart god would have said "I willed it!" instead of trying to explain something that might have exploded your first human's head.

[Daluprime]

And you insulted the qoran you bitch!

[Daluprime]

well it is not your business, it is our minds. And Charles Darwin was racist.

[Dzillaa]

So?

[mandrellian]

@Daluprime True, like most Victorians Darwin thought white people were superior (though he was opposed to slavery). However, his racism doesn't disprove his theory. Also, Isaac Newton was an alchemist. It doesn't disprove gravity. The Pope is a paedophile-enabler but that doesn't disprove Catholicism. It just makes him a bastard. There's a point here which I'm sure you've grasped by now.

[Daluprime]

@mandrellian that is true about the gravity, and I don't give a shit about the pope cuz I am not a catholic. and I dont talk that much about religon. But I guess Dzillaa can believe in any thing he wants. and evolution has been proven.

[dragonjohn7445]

@Daluprime No he wasn't. That was Hitler -_-

[Daluprime]

@dragonjohn7445

your wrong

charles was a racist

[dragonjohn7445]

@Daluprime Are you some type of moron. he was just trying to explain why some fossils resemble modern animals.

[dragonjohn7445]

@Daluprime Also Christians only think that he was racist because he made that theory so it is actually false that he was racist. Christians are actually racist in a way if you look at it from ANY OTHER religions view point.

[dragonjohn7445]

@Daluprime No Christians just think that because he made the theory of Evolution to explain why fossils sometimes look like modern animals sometimes.

[TucanaTheToucan]

I do think that evolution is a valid scientific fact. Even though I was raised Catholic, I took the writings of the bible in a metaphorical sense instead of a literal one like most people in The United States Of America do. The truth is that Evolution is not a religion, but Christian extremists of a few Protestant groups refuse to accept this because they believe that evolution contradicts the word of God. It's closed-minded freaks like those make me glad that I'm Catholic.

[stylovore]

I have a love-hate relationship with arguing with creationists. I love it because their worldview and the extent of their delusions is entertaining and often shocking. I hate it because there's just NO reaching them. There is such a large amount of emotional investment put into their religious beliefs that it trumps logic every time.

[Dzillaa]

You've pretty much hit the nail on the head there mate :)

[PlanetBongoSan]

@stylovore if you can keep it civil and rational though, its still worth having these discussions in a public forum, because there is always the chance of reaching someone whose mind is not as damagingly entrenched in their ludicrous views as the person you are actually arguing with.

[stylovore]

@PlanetBongoSan

yeah, i agree, and I do (rationally debate) at what lately seems to be at every opportunity. I guess with the above comment I wanted to openly vent, since I don't normally reenergize myself through conversations about the subject with like-minded people. At times it is emotionally taxing, and venting just helps. Recently I've been having a speciation debate with a rabbi who claims that macroevolution is only conjecture and therefore doesn't happen.

Sigh.

[PlanetBongoSan]

@stylovore it makes you crazy huh. i think if you are conditioned to think of the world in all its complexity as being just a few thousand years old, you really begin to lose the ability to even begin to concieve of the vastness of geological timespans. they just cant apply their little pet theory of 'microevolution' to that kind of extrapolation. sad... well done for having the heart to keep on with the conversation, this confrontation is vital. go go go :)

[fsmdidit]

And no it's irrational to not accept evolution. Even as a bible believing Christian I could only assume that there was something missing in our understanding of what the bible was telling us. I couldn't accept that scientific evidence was so wrong. But I do know many well educated people who are young earth creationists. My sister for example has a masters in education and believes that the earth was created 6000 years ago.

[fsmdidit]

I'm a recent apostate. American believers have a hard time accepting evolution because we are indoctrinated from birth. Our sense of family, culture, and national identity are bound to our faith. The social positions that our local religious leaders hold are believed to be biblically based and are reinforced by charismatic national religious leaders who sound wise, and some even scholarly. The leaders know that if evolution is right, then their belief system is wrong, the people just follow.

[TR011ING]

hey dzillaa instead of talking about evolution you go out into the world and make some evolution happen

[Dzillaa]

Personally, I'd wouldn't mind if the human race was extinct by the end of the century.

[VGRetro]

Might happen.

[childhas1ssues]

Can I just make one small point... It's not stupid or read of wikipedia... I happen to know he is this freakishly smart... This is not a response comment because the morons who decide to argue such points outnumber the amount of minutes in my life i am willing to give up to make such a counter-argument.

[childhas1ssues]

off*

[TH3KillingJ0KE]

wikipeadia much?

[Dzillaa]

Nope. Didn't use wikipedia at all when writing this

[JarekUchmanowicz]

You are making stupid videos and your information is not valid.

[Dzillaa]

I'd like to see you make a smarter video with more valid information then, please :)

[JarekUchmanowicz]

dude ur fucking acting retarded

[Dzillaa]

Compared to you? How so?

[JarekUchmanowicz]

ur a faggot

[Dzillaa]

Takes one to know one

[TH3KillingJ0KE]

seriously thats your comeback ? not so clever when you havent got a wiki page to read off

[Dzillaa]

If I'd wanted my comeback, I'd have wiped it of your mother's face

[TH3KillingJ0KE]

aww see your momma jokes still not great comebacks

[Dzillaa]

To be honest, I'm not all that bothered with putting a lot of effort into comebacks. Its kinda redundant.

[TH3KillingJ0KE]

humm just what i thaught, cant win so just back down like a pussy

[Dzillaa]

I'm not backing down like a pussy, I'm refraining from arguing with a moron. Never argue with a moron, from a distance, people might not be able to tell the difference.

[TH3KillingJ0KE]

what you think to i dont think you get how this hole youtube do-hicky thing works u defend you vidoes like there your children

[Dzillaa]

Oh of course, you're so right. I should just abandon my argument and turn my back on my viewpoints and submit to anyone who disagrees with me. How right you are good sir

[childhas1ssues]

Na i think it was an offer in disguise really :P

[Kaiz2Kaiz]

because, there american

British Bastards Rule!

[daniel3cb]

i would like to just point out the dog lol

[JacobKaiju]

I believe in both, but I don't care for the Fundamentalists (ugh, my stupid American brain).

At least, they aren't as bad as Jack Horner.

[spiderskater3]

I don't know bro i guess Americans or simply SOME people are just ignorant but I believe in evolution 100% and it bothers me how people simply put aside the existence of Dinosaurs,since I want to become a paleontologists some day.

[mikesinner69]

I hate America, I live here and it stresses me out so much. I need to move. The U,K seems to wet and cold to me though.

[Hewylewis]

I believe in both God and Evolution.

[Luthienwolfie]

I also agree--evolution is real. From a religious standpoint, the 7 days to create the earth for a being such as God would be several millennia on planet earth. The natural progression towards creating humanity resulted in evolution from single celled organisms all the way up to us.

[wazzupwazz]

dude i love you, you are a flipping genius!

you understand!

[OptimusSmyth]

Well, the evidence in favor of evolution is overwhelming actually. But what I can't understand is why there are so many different versions of the theory of evolution and they can't make up their minds as to where we actually came from. If I'm wrong about that, then I guess it's more organized of a belief than I thought it to be after all. I guess that answers question 2, I can't do question 1...

[roni134730]

I live in America and I've never dealt with anyone who doesn't accept evolution.

[mondoqracker]

its not that thy dont belive it its just hard for them to comprehened, i a way they like the stroies of jesus and would like to keep it like that, (ofcourse not opening there horizon, but hay not my choice), and the teerm "everything happens for a reason" it tossed around this topic and YES its true, the moments of time are determined in the random spliting of atoms and the past also, its not hard as it is a remafication, the truth is no one wants to know but its fun to think of it. ps good q,a

[Daluprime]

Im not cristian and I dont care about evolution

[cybololz]

hey dzilla im with you all the way. my whole family except my sister and i are all hard core Jews but my answer to all their questions is... if you want me to believe in god the proof that he/she is a real being... its like me saying the boogy man is real... i don't mind religion, just leave me out of it!!! oh ya 5/5!!

[TheWeasel027]

for the first question, it's because most of americans are stubborn and stand firm in whatever beliefs they have.

for the second question, no i don't find it rational. matter of fact, i'm christian and believe that god caused evolution. however because it was so complex, whoever wrote genesis simplified it into god making everything in six days.

[CyberSpartan66]

Raptorboy101 said it, America was raised on christianity, and thanks to some people in American media like Revrend Pat Robertson, radio host Rush Limbaugh, and almost everyone on Fox News, saying ignorant crap and the mindless masses who listen to it the US is held back

[toamakuta]

1 I belive god is real but he can't do a thing to help or hurt us

hes just an lod man

waiting to died off

2. in the united states( my homeland) the belief in god helped set us free from england

3 for some here god and the church is really the only place to turn for help

[DinoFreakUSA]

The Bible states that the God moldded Man from the Earth. Back then some people considered animals part of the Earth. Also though I beleive in most of the Bible there are some parts I thin are either fake, exaggerated or mis translated. Not that this has anything to do with evolution but back then religion was control. The writers and future editors of the bible could have altered it a bit to gain more control over the people. There is just so much evidence supporting evolution.

[wantsomecake328]

I'm Christian, I live in the US, and I believe in evolution.

[disasterblast]

GAY

[disasterblast]

stalker

[Raptorboy101]

Hey didnt Darwin say screw his theory on his death bed? but I agree with evolution, but in one of the weirdest ways cause i combine Creationism and Evolution to show how both have statements to show they intertwine in a way, atleast to me. But America was raised on Christianity, that's all

[disasterblast]

fake and gay

[disasterblast]

i hate it when atheists say "if god created us then why do people die of cancer?"

the answer is simple. you atheists believe in evolution, which is the mutation of genes and dna. cancer and other genetic illnesses have come into being BECAUSE of evolution. these genes have changed with evolution, dont try and use that shit as an arguement.

[Dzillaa]

At what point did I make that argument?

[disasterblast]

@Dzillaa

didnt say you did. alot of atheists do though.

[DinoFreakUSA]

@disasterblast Didn't you just support evolution there? I beleive in God and I beleive in Evolution. I don't know how they work together but they do.

[disasterblast]

@DinoFreakUSA

yes because i accept evolution, like most people do.

[transformerslover217]

yah you make a good point but we didn't evolve from monkeys it was creation not evolution

[childhas1ssues]

If it's creation why are we still evolving? Why are people now being born with less teeth because we don't need the majority of them anymore due to the fact we don't hunt or eat certain food?

[TH3KillingJ0KE]

this vid is fake and gay

[childhas1ssues]

Wow... How much DO you bother God? What's wrong with it being gay? Are you saying it has fantastic sense in fashion? Are you saying it probably has fantastic life savings due to not having to pay for children or child support? Are you saying it's absolutely FAAAAABULOUS? I am =) Who fail... You fail.

[TH3KillingJ0KE]

im not saying anythink you just suggested but what i am saying is gay fag is gay

[childhas1ssues]

Your argument is not very well substantiated is it now... Just the tunnel visioned approach one would expect of someone with such limited vocabulary.

[TH3KillingJ0KE]

Is it me or is you good sir, I do not believe you understand the great work of Mr RW Johnson.

[childhas1ssues]

I'm a female =) you failed again. I'm also 17, and a student of Philosophy and Ethics, thus, are your beliefs as a result of a teleological, ontological or cosmological argument?

[TH3KillingJ0KE]

2 camels in a tiny car

[childhas1ssues]

By the way... Using gay as an insult on a debate about evolutionism... FAIL. Being as psychological studies demonstrate that numbers of people who don't want children or who are declared as same sex preferential rise as overpopulation rises... It's an example of evolution =)

[TH3KillingJ0KE]

you say your a female so the real question everyone should be asking is, Why arnt you in the kitchen making me a sandwhich?

[disasterblast]

@childhas1ssues

are you saying homosexuality is the next step of evolution? i dont wanna be a fuckin fag.

suck my dick bitch.

[childhas1ssues]

No thanks... But with that approach to the opposite sex... Good luck getting anything =) And i'm not making anyone but my boyfriend sandwiches because he's not an uneducated moron. You may have also noticed... I'm not swearing, because my point IS well substantiated. I don't recall saying the next step is homosexuality, I do however recall stating that the rising numbers alongside overpopulation is not by pure chance. By the way, homophobia is a blatant demonstration of latent homosexuality. =)

[disasterblast]

@childhas1ssues

hows squaids working out for you? maybe you should get your boyfriend to wear a condom.

[childhas1ssues]

Does yours? =)

[disasterblast]

@childhas1ssues

where's my sandwich?

[childhas1ssues]

Oh your comedy wit... It has me laughing histerically... Funnily enough... If you ever come across a group about 'being a girl and gladly making your sandwich' on facebook... I created that... I'd put rat poison in yours =) you're inhibiting evolution, just helping the population =)

[disasterblast]

@childhas1ssues

nicely done...

and no, i just have multiple abortions.

[childhas1ssues]

Well then I hope you're not a christian, as Monty Python states 'every sperm is sacred'.

[disasterblast]

@childhas1ssues

nah im a gay - gays dont have religions seeing as theyr the result of botched evolution.

[childhas1ssues]

disasterblast (29 minutes ago) S

@childhas1ssues

are you saying homosexuality is the next step of evolution? i dont wanna be a fuckin fag.

In that case you proved my point that homophobia is a result of latent homosexuality =) thanks

[Spideyfan117]

Here's something interesting to consider. I come from a small town in Kentucky and I acknowledge the evidence of evolution while I am christian. The town I'm from, scottsville, is full of so many christians who believe the same way I do. I found it interesting that this one small town acknowledges evolution and religion to the extent that it does while it is part of the 'bible belt'.

[disasterblast]

its because the creationist story in the bible is not meant to be taken literally - its metaphorical. even priests aknowledge evolution and darwin was a christian.

[pauldaulby]

darwin hated god, it is recorded in journals

i think...

also, if you read the creation story in the bible it is in no way metaphorical

[disasterblast]

@pauldaulby

 he admitted on his deathbed that he believes in God. like most people do as a last ditch attempt to make themselves feel better before they die.

[DanielLaux429]

Let me just say, I am American, I am Roman Catholic (which is the biggest sect of Christianity), & I believe that BOTH theories are correct. I think that God created evolution, as he created the heavens & the universe. God created science, along with everything else. I think God created the universe & then created evolution, since it wouldn't be right to just have all of the animals be poofed onto this planet.

That is what I think. Do you think this sounds good enough?

[pauldaulby]

just wondering but what makes roman catholics different from other christians.

anyway, there are problems with it with times and humans evolving from an ancestor, yet it says we were made in the image of god withing 7 days.

people could say that we were made as the old species we evolved from.

[DanielLaux429]

First of all, Roman Catholics were the first Christians to exist. They also differ by their alleigance to the Pope & also that they love the Saints & feel that they are very important, as they help spread Jesus's wisdom.

Second, think about this. God has been around for eternity & will continue to be here. What may seem 7 days to him/her could be billions of years to us. As for his image, I feel that God can change shape & that all animals are in his image, not just us (FYI, I love animals).

[pauldaulby]

roman catholics where not the first to exist.

it says in the bible nothing about conforming to a single persons view on what to do and believe, and as the view changes when a new pope is (indoctrinated i think) brought in.

"The word saint comes from the Greek word "hagios" which means consecrated to God, holy, sacred, pious." "

saints are just very godly people, not people set apart by god for others to 'worship'.

unless you were refering to christians.

[DanielLaux429]

If Catholics are not the first Christians to exist, then they are certainly the first Christians to exist & still be around today.

Saints have spread Jesus's wisdom, which is why they are important. They are also the things you mentioned. In fact, did you know that Saint Jude was actually related to Jesus?

& yes, I was referring to Christians.

[pauldaulby]

i just think listening to one of the richest and most powerful men in the world instead of listening to concience is a dangerous thing to do.

also i don't know who saint jude is.

roman catholisism came about soon after the romans stopped killing christians for entertainment.

i dissagree with the idea of 'types' of christians, it just segregates people.

i know someone who was refused to have her baby christened because she was not a catholic, just normal christian.

[DanielLaux429]

Well, I don't listen to the tobacco industry either, as I know smoking is bad for you.

Saint Jude is one of the original saints. He has a children's hospital named after him, which was founded by Danny Thomas, whom I'm named after.

Maybe you're right, as Christians are just one big religion. However, if you think Christianity has all these types, you should know about the more types of Hinduism. They have more types than Christians do.

[pauldaulby]

the hebrew word for days is the same word for days used in other parts of the bible, like where jesus comes back to life after 3 days, same word.

his deciples didn't live for millions of years.

god says (not exact words) he has set us apart from other animals and made us in gods image

so not everything is gods image.

[pauldaulby]

good video.

there is no SOLID evidence for species to species evolution, ie its can't be proven in experiments.

there is definately pretty solid evidence for evolution, such as bacteria as a testable experiment and as you said dogs.

people, like me, have a trouble accepting it because i want to believe in god, but species to species evolution seems to go against the bibles teachings.

sure people can say "oh its a guide" or "god changed all species over time" but that is bad 'psuedo' science

[protosaber363]

Im a christian and the only thing I dont agree with about evolution is the whole "We evolved from monkies". Everything else makes sense to me.

[pauldaulby]

the widly accepted scientific theory is that we DIDN'T evolve from monkies.

but monkeys and humans both evolved from a seperate being that was like monkeys and humans, just we went through diferent evolutionary paths.

i'm assuming thats not what you meant but its usually important as not many people know that.