The notion that the US is a Christian nation is easy to dismantle, there are several wonderful quotes from Jefferson, Paine, and Madison that are anti-religious and advocate the separation of church and state.
"In no instance have... the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people", a very true statement by James Madison.
@ChipArgyle Why? Because they hate everybody else, especially muslims, atheists, satanists, pagans, ect. They are only comfortable with people that believe in their religion, they want control over everything they dislike about liberty, and want to brainwash everyone.
@Bourtini I think they have intolerance for anyone, or any country for that matter, that isn't just like them. Ever seen an American on vacation abroad? All they do is complain that the country they're in isn't like America.
if we are a christ nation, then we should legalize slavery not let women vote not let women wear pants or any male atire make homosexuality a crime punishable by death legalize child abuse illegalize adultary take away freedom of religion and only christianity legalize putting people in jail if they don't honor their parents make coveting a crime don't eat shell fish don't wear clothes made of 2 threads or anything the bible says to or not to do does that sound like a fun country, christians?
It's EASILY PROVEN that America is not, and never was, a "Christian nation". Simply click on my name and take 10 minutes to watch my 'Is America a Christian Nation' video.
If you believe you can refute it, please make the attempt.
@MichaelCasanovaMusic It doesn't matter to me where folks get their values as long as they have some good ones. Statistics show that the the morale values that matter have diminished over time. Coincidently, that reduction in values is proportional to higher divorce rates and children growing up alone. I don't practice religion either, but I have morales. I only hope the people who are unable to make good decisions find some guidelines. If that's christianity or Budha or satanism, I don't care.
Alot of the founding fathers were Free Masons...and while I don't believe that could count as a 'religion' (though I'm not sure on that...I know next to nothing about Free Masonry) it's the closest thing I know of to their beliefs. Heck, alot of 'pagan' themes seem to be prevelent when you look in the archetecture of some of our monuments.
We weren't founded on Christianity, we were founded in 'Pagan roots' is what I think. Or heck, we could've been founded by Atheists for all we know. XD
I want someone who believes in the mantra that "we are a Christian Nation" to tell me what this means. In other words--let's suppose we are, and let's suppose the argument is over. What's supposed to happen at that point? What do you see as flowing from that notion? Are Christian churches supposed to be favored? Given tax money? Only Christians can hold office or vote? Legislation must pass Biblical scrutiny? What is supposed to happen as a result of us being a "Christian Nation"?
I wanted to add that "One Nation Under God" isn't true anymore. We will soon see the consequence of degredation in a societies morals in our colapse. It will resemble the fall of the Roman Empire. I'm also not a "religious" person, but a crutch isn't a bad thing if you need it and Christiantiy has played an important role in the contribution of good values in decision making. Believe in God or not, but your contribution among others will help to destroy this once great place to live.
Myth was never a myth. Creating distance from godless communists is always good and "only since the 50's" is a long time. Our court appointed judges have not upheld the freedoms of citizens under the 1st ammendment as you've pointed out. We are no longer allowed to pray to our 'invisible' God in schools. Evils were committed by segments under Roman Catholism, not Judeo-Christianity as you lump them together. You answered your own question too. Judges think too hard and we lose more freedoms.
Who cares if it's a long time? It's still not founded on Christianity.That's false, students ARE allowed to pray in school, but it isnt mandatory anymore like it was in the 50s when "one nation under god" and "in god we trust" were inserted into the pledge and onto our money. I wont argue that it hasn't been restricted, im not religious but i do believe that people should allowed to express themselves in school. I find it sad that people need to use a crutch to have good values
@Click2Close Woah there bro. I am an atheist but raised Catholic. How about you recollect the atrocities committed by Cromwell {protestant} upon the Irish Catholics? He and his followers killed thousands of people for nothing more than being Catholic. Hell, here in America during the 19th century there were several instances where "gawd fearing christians" attacked, vandalized, and/or burned Catholic schools, churches and hospitals. And people can pray, it just isn't REQUIRED. Big difference.
US liberty is granted first by a creator at birth and only recognized and upheld by the US constitution as a birth-right as such. Why, because if mere men or documents alone granted you liberty only a mere man or document can take it away! This is the distinction from American Liberty & why all men are created equal, evolution surly does not teach this but Christianity does. The basic notion of American liberty & freedom for all is by a God-given birth-right & a non-secular view historically.
The phrase "Founding Fathers" is a proper noun. It refers to a very specific group of people, the 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention. Yes, there were other important players, but the 55 Fathers make up the core.Among the delegates were 28 Episcopalians, 8 Presbyterians, 7 Congregationalists, 2 Lutherans, 2 Dutch Reformed, 2 Methodists, 2 Roman Catholics, 1 unknown and only 3 deists--Williamson, Wilson and Franklin. 51 of 55--a full 93%.
"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man."
-Thomas Jefferson
The Declaration of Independance states that "all men are created equal, and are endowed by their creator with certeain inalienable rights"
Note that there is no specification as to who or what that "creator" is.
Keep it up AmAith, just try facing the camera straight on and put your notes up so you don't have to glance down so much. Just some professional criticism there.
Have you heard of the Church of Wicca? I would regard the Us Government far worse then any Religion. Look at how many people died in that. That wasn't fought over Religion? One stealth bomber costs 2 billion dollars. Just think of how much money that is that's: 2 0000000 dollars for ONE stealth bomber. America's Government needs to worry about their own issues first killing women and children second.
@inkpenavenger- Ah yes, another Jefferson quote again taken out of context. You see they have to take a line out of context to create (not make) a point. Here's a quote for you.
"The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend all to the happiness of man"
Thomas Jefferson, to Dr. Benjamin Waterhouse on June 26, 1822
@mangosteen4health It's true that Jefferson respected Jesus as a philosopher and a good man to follow the example of. However, he (and Franklin for that matter) did not believe he was a god. That is why Jefferson edited his own edition of the New Testament, compiling the moral and philosophical aspects of Jesus's teachings and dropping all the absurd magic and mumbo jumbo. Each new member on congress was given a Jeffersonian bible, until the mid 1800s.
@inkpenavenger Finally, regarding the question, Is America a Christian nation?, if we mean by that that Christianity is the official, doctrinal religion of this country, the answer is of course not. That's prohibited by the exclusion clause of the First Amendment. If we mean that we were founded on Biblical principles by Christian men who had a deep commitment to the Scriptures by and large, the answer is certainly yes.
@mangosteen4health The answer is not yes, in order for it to be "yes" the principles to which you refer would have to be uniquely "Christian". To my knowledge every principle that would be considered within the realm of christian teachings, are also laws and principles that can be found in essentially every nation in recorded history. There is a difference in holding ideals in common with a religion, and the source for those ideals being a specific religion.
@Lekgolo1981- except that for your hypothesis to be correct none of the founding fathers could have been Christian, but they were Blanche, but they were Christian by Majority. Therefore it was their Christian principles that founded this nation.
America could not be a Christian nation, for there is no such thing. The Bible gives no instruction for how Christians are to set up a nation for Christianity. But! America was a Christianized nation. Just read older literature and watch older movies and TV. Christian thinking permeated this land in in a most unassuming way. It was a second nature for our culture. And, I was brought up a Jew and could see that!
"The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God."
-John Adams, June 28, 1813, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.
The courts in this country have revised the First Amendment, and erected a wall of ATHEISM.
I agree with your overall argument. America was/is not a "Christian Nation" based on the history of the founding. This much is clear. However, there are a couple of points that I wanted to clear up in your presentation:
1.) "In God We Trust" was OFFICIALLY accepted as the nation's motto in 1956 but it was present on money and was unofficially recognized as our motto in 1864.
2.) The T. of Tripoli was written by John Barlow, not John Adams. Adams simply signed it.
You cannot attribute the misdeeds of others who **claim** to be Christian to Christianity. According to the Bible, Christians are to witness to others. If these people then reject Christianity, the Christian is to drop the topic and walk away. Jesus made it very clear that the religion is not to be forced on anyone. (Mat. 10: 12-14 if you're interested) So guess what: Free exercise of religion IS a Christian principle.
You are doing exactly what many Christians accuse us atheists of doing, quote-mining the bible.
If you accept that jesus said those words in Matthew 10:12-14 then you also have to accept what he said in Matthew 10:34-36 where he talks specifically says he's not bringing peace to earth, but rather bringing a sword.
So essentially it's saying you can practice whatever religion you want, but you go to hell if it's not christianity.
You're taking the sword statement out of context. It was commonly believed at the time that the messiah would usher in an age of peace. He was merely letting them know that there were rough times ahead, and that Christians would be persecuted (and they were).
As far as religious freedom, again, He said that they were to walk away from who rejected Him. Religious freedom. No one would be forced to follow him. That is not to say that there would be no consequences.
Had you read on, you would have noticed that the sword He was referring to was actually a sword against those who followed Him. "He that findeth his life shall lose it; and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it." 10:39
You'll also note that in verse 38, he refers to people following Him as taking up their cross.
Those who carried a cross at the time were those condemned to die.
America is not a Christian nation that is the smartest thing I've heard you say yet that's why I watched this video. Many Americans make me mad when they say the opposite is true. Most Americans do not practice Christianity at least in proper practice so I wouldn't regard it as true. Christians are not the only ones who have mass murdered people in the name of a deity so you cannot call us out alone. Iran is not the worst nation in the world that's propaganda. the Bible prophesied many things.
Watch my video: America is not a Christian Nation: True or False.
You'll see plenty of quotes from these eleged diests that will contradict what you think about them. Some of said they were deists, but you ought to look up their death bed quotes to see what many of them said as well. Do some digging. Don't just go by one or two quotes.
The majority of American's believe our heritage is Christian, and for good reason. Dig deeper!
True. Thomas Paine was an atheist, and many of the founding fathers were deists who rejected Christianity (see Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin to name a few)
For example: Samual Adams, signer of the Dec. of Ind. wrote in his will "...my body I commit to the dust, relying upon the merits of Jesus Christ for a pardon of all my sins."
John Hancock last will..."quoted Hebrews 9:27, then said first of all, I give and recommend my sould into the hands of God that gave it.
Patrick Henry's "The religion of Christ can give them one (inheritance) which will make them rich indeed."
"one religion should not be preferred over another...how did something like THAT make it into the constitution?" On the surface, that would sound anti Christian. Actually, if you think about where our founders came from, it makes sense. They fled the tyranny of the Church of England. They didn't want a "Church of the United States". They wanted freedom OF religion, not FROM religion. The majority of our founders were Christians. Besides, you "find Jesus" willingly, not via a theocracy. : )
Freedom of religion is not anti-christian. The point is that a country founded on the basis of christianity would tend to favor it in their constitution. We don't favor christianity in our constitution, reinforcing that the United States was NOT founded as a christian nation.
Since the majority of our founding fathers and citizens were indeed of the Judeo Christian ancestry, the framers of the Declaration said "We hold these truths to be self-evident..." They never dreamed they'd have to lay it all out so simply for later generations to understand. They wanted to establish a society FREE to worship as you wish, but with the understanding that our foundation would always be on Christian principles.
Agree 1000%. America was founded as a secular nation. I dont believe religion is a bad thing, but it shouldnt be anywhere near government. (And thankfully many religious people I know agree with me)
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The notion that the US is a Christian nation is easy to dismantle, there are several wonderful quotes from Jefferson, Paine, and Madison that are anti-religious and advocate the separation of church and state.
"In no instance have... the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people", a very true statement by James Madison.
Bourtini 2 months ago
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Bourtini 2 months ago
If a theocracy is such a bad thing, why do so many Americans strive for it?
ChipArgyle 3 months ago
@ChipArgyle Why? Because they hate everybody else, especially muslims, atheists, satanists, pagans, ect. They are only comfortable with people that believe in their religion, they want control over everything they dislike about liberty, and want to brainwash everyone.
Bourtini 2 months ago
@Bourtini I think they have intolerance for anyone, or any country for that matter, that isn't just like them. Ever seen an American on vacation abroad? All they do is complain that the country they're in isn't like America.
ChipArgyle 2 months ago
The way you talk and keep squinting with your eyes shows you need glasses.
heathersears30 7 months ago
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It's EASILY PROVEN that America is not, and never was, a "Christian nation". Simply click on my name and take 10 minutes to watch my 'Is America a Christian Nation' video.
If you believe you can refute it, please make the attempt.
sgapplebee 1 year ago
@MichaelCasanovaMusic It doesn't matter to me where folks get their values as long as they have some good ones. Statistics show that the the morale values that matter have diminished over time. Coincidently, that reduction in values is proportional to higher divorce rates and children growing up alone. I don't practice religion either, but I have morales. I only hope the people who are unable to make good decisions find some guidelines. If that's christianity or Budha or satanism, I don't care.
JustSignOut 1 year ago
Alot of the founding fathers were Free Masons...and while I don't believe that could count as a 'religion' (though I'm not sure on that...I know next to nothing about Free Masonry) it's the closest thing I know of to their beliefs. Heck, alot of 'pagan' themes seem to be prevelent when you look in the archetecture of some of our monuments.
We weren't founded on Christianity, we were founded in 'Pagan roots' is what I think. Or heck, we could've been founded by Atheists for all we know. XD
XSuicuneX 1 year ago
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I want someone who believes in the mantra that "we are a Christian Nation" to tell me what this means. In other words--let's suppose we are, and let's suppose the argument is over. What's supposed to happen at that point? What do you see as flowing from that notion? Are Christian churches supposed to be favored? Given tax money? Only Christians can hold office or vote? Legislation must pass Biblical scrutiny? What is supposed to happen as a result of us being a "Christian Nation"?
DandAinTac 1 year ago
I wanted to add that "One Nation Under God" isn't true anymore. We will soon see the consequence of degredation in a societies morals in our colapse. It will resemble the fall of the Roman Empire. I'm also not a "religious" person, but a crutch isn't a bad thing if you need it and Christiantiy has played an important role in the contribution of good values in decision making. Believe in God or not, but your contribution among others will help to destroy this once great place to live.
Click2Close 1 year ago
Myth was never a myth. Creating distance from godless communists is always good and "only since the 50's" is a long time. Our court appointed judges have not upheld the freedoms of citizens under the 1st ammendment as you've pointed out. We are no longer allowed to pray to our 'invisible' God in schools. Evils were committed by segments under Roman Catholism, not Judeo-Christianity as you lump them together. You answered your own question too. Judges think too hard and we lose more freedoms.
Click2Close 1 year ago
@Click2Close
Who cares if it's a long time? It's still not founded on Christianity.That's false, students ARE allowed to pray in school, but it isnt mandatory anymore like it was in the 50s when "one nation under god" and "in god we trust" were inserted into the pledge and onto our money. I wont argue that it hasn't been restricted, im not religious but i do believe that people should allowed to express themselves in school. I find it sad that people need to use a crutch to have good values
MichaelCasanovaMusic 1 year ago
@Click2Close Woah there bro. I am an atheist but raised Catholic. How about you recollect the atrocities committed by Cromwell {protestant} upon the Irish Catholics? He and his followers killed thousands of people for nothing more than being Catholic. Hell, here in America during the 19th century there were several instances where "gawd fearing christians" attacked, vandalized, and/or burned Catholic schools, churches and hospitals. And people can pray, it just isn't REQUIRED. Big difference.
Kimjira1 4 months ago
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US liberty is granted first by a creator at birth and only recognized and upheld by the US constitution as a birth-right as such. Why, because if mere men or documents alone granted you liberty only a mere man or document can take it away! This is the distinction from American Liberty & why all men are created equal, evolution surly does not teach this but Christianity does. The basic notion of American liberty & freedom for all is by a God-given birth-right & a non-secular view historically.
WILLTHEWGMAN 1 year ago
Good facts, but in the future do a couple of test runs before posting so you sound clear and precise in pronunciation. But good video overall. :D
grimmtb 1 year ago
The god of the Bible is a dictator. Communism and Christianity have that in common!
allmanjoy 1 year ago
The phrase "Founding Fathers" is a proper noun. It refers to a very specific group of people, the 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention. Yes, there were other important players, but the 55 Fathers make up the core.Among the delegates were 28 Episcopalians, 8 Presbyterians, 7 Congregationalists, 2 Lutherans, 2 Dutch Reformed, 2 Methodists, 2 Roman Catholics, 1 unknown and only 3 deists--Williamson, Wilson and Franklin. 51 of 55--a full 93%.
mangosteen4health 1 year ago
"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man."
-Thomas Jefferson
The Declaration of Independance states that "all men are created equal, and are endowed by their creator with certeain inalienable rights"
Note that there is no specification as to who or what that "creator" is.
Keep it up AmAith, just try facing the camera straight on and put your notes up so you don't have to glance down so much. Just some professional criticism there.
inkpenavenger 2 years ago 2
Have you heard of the Church of Wicca? I would regard the Us Government far worse then any Religion. Look at how many people died in that. That wasn't fought over Religion? One stealth bomber costs 2 billion dollars. Just think of how much money that is that's: 2 0000000 dollars for ONE stealth bomber. America's Government needs to worry about their own issues first killing women and children second.
JamesRideout123 1 year ago
@inkpenavenger- Ah yes, another Jefferson quote again taken out of context. You see they have to take a line out of context to create (not make) a point. Here's a quote for you.
"The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend all to the happiness of man"
Thomas Jefferson, to Dr. Benjamin Waterhouse on June 26, 1822
mangosteen4health 1 year ago
@mangosteen4health It's true that Jefferson respected Jesus as a philosopher and a good man to follow the example of. However, he (and Franklin for that matter) did not believe he was a god. That is why Jefferson edited his own edition of the New Testament, compiling the moral and philosophical aspects of Jesus's teachings and dropping all the absurd magic and mumbo jumbo. Each new member on congress was given a Jeffersonian bible, until the mid 1800s.
inkpenavenger 1 year ago
@inkpenavenger Finally, regarding the question, Is America a Christian nation?, if we mean by that that Christianity is the official, doctrinal religion of this country, the answer is of course not. That's prohibited by the exclusion clause of the First Amendment. If we mean that we were founded on Biblical principles by Christian men who had a deep commitment to the Scriptures by and large, the answer is certainly yes.
mangosteen4health 1 year ago
@mangosteen4health The answer is not yes, in order for it to be "yes" the principles to which you refer would have to be uniquely "Christian". To my knowledge every principle that would be considered within the realm of christian teachings, are also laws and principles that can be found in essentially every nation in recorded history. There is a difference in holding ideals in common with a religion, and the source for those ideals being a specific religion.
Lekgolo1981 1 year ago
@Lekgolo1981- except that for your hypothesis to be correct none of the founding fathers could have been Christian, but they were Blanche, but they were Christian by Majority. Therefore it was their Christian principles that founded this nation.
mangosteen4health 1 year ago
America could not be a Christian nation, for there is no such thing. The Bible gives no instruction for how Christians are to set up a nation for Christianity. But! America was a Christianized nation. Just read older literature and watch older movies and TV. Christian thinking permeated this land in in a most unassuming way. It was a second nature for our culture. And, I was brought up a Jew and could see that!
genemz5 2 years ago
Maybe you should have stayed awake in history class !!!
Of the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence, nearly half (24) held seminary or Bible school degrees.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams
deCELLR8R 2 years ago
This is not true. 24 were NOT graduates of a seminary degree...a common myth that was created by David Barton. It's NOT true.
AmericanCreation 2 years ago
"Religion and morality are the essential pillars of civil society." George Washinton
deCELLR8R 2 years ago
Fail :D
HomoCyborgZombie 2 years ago
"The Christian religion, in its purity, is the basis, or rather the source of all genuine freedom in government. . ."
Noah Webster, signed the of Declaration of Independence
deCELLR8R 2 years ago
"The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God."
-John Adams, June 28, 1813, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.
The courts in this country have revised the First Amendment, and erected a wall of ATHEISM.
deCELLR8R 2 years ago
I agree with your overall argument. America was/is not a "Christian Nation" based on the history of the founding. This much is clear. However, there are a couple of points that I wanted to clear up in your presentation:
1.) "In God We Trust" was OFFICIALLY accepted as the nation's motto in 1956 but it was present on money and was unofficially recognized as our motto in 1864.
2.) The T. of Tripoli was written by John Barlow, not John Adams. Adams simply signed it.
Just 4 clarification.
AmericanCreation 2 years ago
You cannot attribute the misdeeds of others who **claim** to be Christian to Christianity. According to the Bible, Christians are to witness to others. If these people then reject Christianity, the Christian is to drop the topic and walk away. Jesus made it very clear that the religion is not to be forced on anyone. (Mat. 10: 12-14 if you're interested) So guess what: Free exercise of religion IS a Christian principle.
bldgy 2 years ago
You are doing exactly what many Christians accuse us atheists of doing, quote-mining the bible.
If you accept that jesus said those words in Matthew 10:12-14 then you also have to accept what he said in Matthew 10:34-36 where he talks specifically says he's not bringing peace to earth, but rather bringing a sword.
So essentially it's saying you can practice whatever religion you want, but you go to hell if it's not christianity.
Doesn't sound like religious freedom to me...
AmerikanAtheist 2 years ago
You're taking the sword statement out of context. It was commonly believed at the time that the messiah would usher in an age of peace. He was merely letting them know that there were rough times ahead, and that Christians would be persecuted (and they were).
As far as religious freedom, again, He said that they were to walk away from who rejected Him. Religious freedom. No one would be forced to follow him. That is not to say that there would be no consequences.
bldgy 2 years ago
Had you read on, you would have noticed that the sword He was referring to was actually a sword against those who followed Him. "He that findeth his life shall lose it; and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it." 10:39
You'll also note that in verse 38, he refers to people following Him as taking up their cross.
Those who carried a cross at the time were those condemned to die.
bldgy 2 years ago
America is not a Christian nation that is the smartest thing I've heard you say yet that's why I watched this video. Many Americans make me mad when they say the opposite is true. Most Americans do not practice Christianity at least in proper practice so I wouldn't regard it as true. Christians are not the only ones who have mass murdered people in the name of a deity so you cannot call us out alone. Iran is not the worst nation in the world that's propaganda. the Bible prophesied many things.
JamesRideout123 1 year ago
Watch my video: America is not a Christian Nation: True or False.
You'll see plenty of quotes from these eleged diests that will contradict what you think about them. Some of said they were deists, but you ought to look up their death bed quotes to see what many of them said as well. Do some digging. Don't just go by one or two quotes.
The majority of American's believe our heritage is Christian, and for good reason. Dig deeper!
TheRationalthinker 2 years ago
See my video response:
America's Heritage is NOT Christian: TRUE or FALSE
TheRationalthinker 2 years ago
See my video response to that.
AmerikanAtheist 2 years ago
True. Thomas Paine was an atheist, and many of the founding fathers were deists who rejected Christianity (see Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin to name a few)
Nonoyawns 2 years ago
For example: Samual Adams, signer of the Dec. of Ind. wrote in his will "...my body I commit to the dust, relying upon the merits of Jesus Christ for a pardon of all my sins."
John Hancock last will..."quoted Hebrews 9:27, then said first of all, I give and recommend my sould into the hands of God that gave it.
Patrick Henry's "The religion of Christ can give them one (inheritance) which will make them rich indeed."
TheRationalthinker 2 years ago
"one religion should not be preferred over another...how did something like THAT make it into the constitution?" On the surface, that would sound anti Christian. Actually, if you think about where our founders came from, it makes sense. They fled the tyranny of the Church of England. They didn't want a "Church of the United States". They wanted freedom OF religion, not FROM religion. The majority of our founders were Christians. Besides, you "find Jesus" willingly, not via a theocracy. : )
TheRationalthinker 2 years ago
Freedom of religion is not anti-christian. The point is that a country founded on the basis of christianity would tend to favor it in their constitution. We don't favor christianity in our constitution, reinforcing that the United States was NOT founded as a christian nation.
AmerikanAtheist 2 years ago
Since the majority of our founding fathers and citizens were indeed of the Judeo Christian ancestry, the framers of the Declaration said "We hold these truths to be self-evident..." They never dreamed they'd have to lay it all out so simply for later generations to understand. They wanted to establish a society FREE to worship as you wish, but with the understanding that our foundation would always be on Christian principles.
TheRationalthinker 2 years ago
Now, just what christian principles would those be?
AmerikanAtheist 2 years ago
Agree 1000%. America was founded as a secular nation. I dont believe religion is a bad thing, but it shouldnt be anywhere near government. (And thankfully many religious people I know agree with me)
redbaron998 2 years ago
Yeah, I just love history revisionists, don't you?
tiggeromega 2 years ago
Oh snap, at 2 minutes (after your setup) you started to hammer home some great points.
TheMysteriousCorner 2 years ago