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  • Dear uploader, do you have Remembering J.P (larry carlton-lee ritenour) backing track? I'm hopeless in finding it. Has anyone know anything.? please reply. thanks.

  • So many ways to solo over. I started with everything Phrygian (B Phrygian, F Phrygian, E Phrygian & C Phrygian) b/c that 9th can be emphasized in each chord.  A Aeolian (4 bars), F Phrygian (4 bars), E Phrygian (4 bars), Bb Dorian (4 bars) is mad fun. Great post!

  • Hey, Great backing track, just posted a video. Thanks for putting this track up, it's awesome!

  • There must be loads of ways to solo over this judging from what people have said. Here's the first way that occurred to me:

    After the intro:

    C major - 4 bars (Am is chord vi)

    Db major - 4 bars (Ebm is chord ii)

    C major - 4 bars (Dm is chord ii)

    Db major - 4 bars (Bbm is chord vi)

  • wow, nice track, i soloed Am9 - G major, Ebm9 - Db major, Dbm9- C major, and Bbm9- Ab major~ sounded amazing~

  • i soloed over it with a mix of an E major and a B blues very nice!

  • which is the key_

  • thanks great!!!

  • Cool track !!!

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  • this is a jamey aebersold backing track, i know that distinctive cout off. haha. I was at a jamey aebersold clinic and he showed us this.

  • Brilliant! Great to solo with, sounds great with my sax.

  • if you know your stuff, this is a greak song to improve on the sax. thanks!

  • Actually, you can solo over this very easily if you're not tight on theory. Just expect a chromatic shift at the changes and structure your melody through using your knowledge of scale patterns to include one. I'm doing it - it's swell. But then again I have a pretty good ear and do a lot of improv...

  • just play something over it and upload it and see what your got

  • @Denim98: I can bet my life to that there are more people that share the same opinion as 5amuu.

  • a reeeeeally great chord progression

  • DAMN... it's frustrating me.. to learn how to solo with the chord changes..

  • Hey man cheers for uploading this, ive studyed jazz but just havent been able to grasp fully to concept of changing scale according to the chord, this has been extremely helpful. Cheers

  • I hardly know anything about theory.. really. I know some scale connections and a mode or two.. But other than that, nothing. This is still incredibly enjoyable to solo over ^^

  • @guitar4life33 If you can solo to this without knowing theory you're a damn good player. I know theory and I still can't play this...

  • Ah.. I see. Ionno really.. I just kinda feel around and utilize the techniques that I'm strongest in.. It works for me haha.

  • you can't solo jazz well without knowing theory.

  • @denim98 you could use major/minor pentatonics although it would get boring

  • You ain't a jazz musician if you don't do dissonances :P

  • Yes you can. Go listen to Allan Holdsworth.

  • Allan Holdsworth isn't a real jazz guitarist. He is a fusion guitarist. And his melodies are dull and directionaless.

  • Bullshit man. Holdsworth is one of the greatest musical geniuses of the past century.

  • @5amuu that is only your opinion. not the rest of the world.

  • @denim98 lol that depends on the amount of talent

  • Haha Garrison Fewell was one of my teachers at Berklee. Hes kind of an ass but hes cool.

  • A Aeolian then move to F Phrygian at the chord change. thats the smoothest easiest way ive found for this.

    @cyberk007. thanks. im have fun with that.

  • @nickchase1000 Yeah thanks for that tip man. I'd never practiced Phrygian mode before but now I understand a bit more.  My brain is thinking a bit broader now. :)

  • fun to solo over :D

  • Hey I'm Chris. check out my track and tell me if it helped.i had fun with it.

  • Yes it it hard to do soloing.. but nice song anyway =)

  • hehehe,

    Its really weird to play over this unless your theory is TIGHT,

    which mine is not of course.

    Its like, each chord has its OWN scale D;

    ;o

    i wish i could instantaniously know what scale to use just by looking at the chord haha ;/

  • You can really play anything you want. Thats the beauty of jazz. Its all about using your ear. Just think about what tensions are in the chord

  • @0MrRib0 The progression is I-VI-IV-III in A minor, which yes is pretty odd. The scales would be A minor, Eb major, D dorian, and Bb mixolydian. That seems really complicated, but if you just play an A blues scale over the whole progression it should sound fine! Try comping the chords with the track for starters to get a hang of the changes before soloing.

  • But can't you always play Dorian over minor 7th chords? so why can't you start with A Dorian?

  • The beauty of Min7 or Dorminant 7th these chords accept just about any note :P

  • @0MrRib0 Well basicly for example the A scale is the same as the Bes but one fred lower.

  • @0MrRib0 Well, to take the simpelest approach, try using the mixolydian. Just take one single pattern in wich you know de mixolydian scale (you can look it up on the internet, really not that hard, trust me). That play it in A, when you move to Eb, just move the pattern up 'till you get to Eb, then move it back half a step to get in D and then move it back to Bb. It's good to start that way atleast. Better would be to find out how to play over all those chords in one position ofc

  • @wannabefun Well its Am7, so A dorian would work better. The easiest way to play it in position IMO is to play A dorian over Am7, Bb minor over Ebm7 (same as Eb dorian), A minor over Dm7, and Bb dorian over Bbm7. That way you're always staying close to the A dorian shape. Also, some lower chromatic neighbors are good to use over the changes, esp. on the 9th. fun piece to play with

  • @iPR0SH0T Haha, omg xD I actually didn't see the - and thought they were dominant seventh chords instead of minor chords. Weird that I didn't hear that one :P But you're right, that's actually a better way improvise over those chords!

  • @wannabefun Yeah, on the video it says A-7(9), which is actually just a fancy way to write Am7add9. I learned from the same mistake about a year ago, haha. another easy way is E Minor, Eb Dorian, E Phrygian, F Minor. Just to help if you wanna switch it up a bit, I try not to play in the same positions too long.

  • @iPR0SH0T Well, you know what the thing is? I never write Am7add9 irl, I only use those terms on the internet, so when the normal notation comes around (A-7(9)), I miss stuff :P And that's cool too, btw, those scales. I'm getting into jazz improv lately, luckily I know a fair share of music theory already, it sure helps!

  • @0MrRib0 you can :D you should buy the Guitar Grimoire Scales and Modes, it'll help you out with learning all of your scales. once you've learned your scales and modes, all you have to do is look at the chords and figure out what the roman numeral analysis would be. if it's the iii chord, then you would use the 3rd mode. so if we're in C major, the iii chord will be Em so you can use E Phrygian over it. but you don't have to just stick to E phrygian to play over Em, any diatonic mode works

  • @0MrRib0 mixolydian, use a minor third and flat 5th as passing tones, change scale each chord might be a place to start. The Eb7 is a tritone substitution for the A7, the A mixo thing sounds ok over it to me, but use a b5 instead of a 5 in that scale, so it doesn't clash with the Eb. Try that and see if it works

  • @bnapoleonc123 If an E Phrygian has the same notes as A minor, why would you even bother with the Phrygian? Would that just put an emphasis on notes other than the tonic, 3rd, and 5th of A minor?

  • It would be a much better backing track if it was longer and only had one guitar without an example solo guitar

  • too short

  • a simple way of soloing over this is to use the notes of the chord you're currently soloing over and the scale of the chords. eg Am over A-7 Ebm over E-7 etc etc etc

    of course, it's not the best of most effective way, but it works

  • it's not always about the chords being played but the chord they resolve to.

  • holy crap. I have no frickin clue how to play along with this. What scale do you use? And how do you compensate for the shifting tones? Argh...probably need to be stoned to play this. Jazz is for hipsters...ugh.

    Dm

  • wow dude learn theory and call jazz music for hipsters then what scale do you think sound good over it it can be anything you want if you can manipulate the fretbord

  • You're right. I do need to learn theory....

    Then I will understand Jazz.

    I guess Jazz is the algebra of music.

    Dm

  • yea i guess to me its more like the opposite cuz i kearned theory nd then learned how to brake its rules and go past basic melodies that really more what jazz is about. This is just mood music but you could sit and put ten different scales over this cuz at some point they all connect or share notes anyway

  • Best backing track in youtube ever.

    im learning to play guitar, so im trying it using the pentatonic minor... but it sound pretty awesome. any suggestion?

  • mixolydian and dimished scales combined with each other and do that with those chords arpeggiated like a sweep. gotta combine your scales and your chords youll get it in time

  • Very, very nice, thanks!

  • i'm working on learning how to improvise with jazz, so far chromatic passing tones here and there sound pretty good, i guess this is the right place to learn how to use those

  • This is very good, thanks

  • dont you fucking see the title?

    its a FUCKNG BACKING TRACK, MORON.

  • Angry

  • very good I like this chord progression is great to fun around

  • where are guitar shweeppsh in dis

  • Athough there will be many different ways and might be better ones, I think;

    Amin7(9) - A melodic minor

    Ebmin7(9) - Eb melodic minor

    Dmin7(9) - D Dorian

    Bbmin7(9) - A Altered

  • I like the following:

    Amin7(9) - A altered

    Ebmin7(9) - Eb mixolydian

    Dmin 7(9) - C major / G mixolydian

    Bbmin7(9) - A altered.

    It's amazing how much arpeggios you can use here. Dmin7 arpeggio to a Bbmin7 chord... just beautiful :)

  • Thanks I'll try that later mmmm yeah. Must get that book sometime too from the cats at Berklee Press, smooooth.

  • Arpeggios are good. But unless you really mean to play them they don't really help, but it sounds good. Focus on really playing what you hear, otherwise in the end all you get is frustrated.

  • Arpeggios are great for transitions and are the "backbone" of your song. Instead of chords I rather play arpeggios it just sounds more dynamic

  • I meant in solos...

  • I also use arpeggios in my solo's, it's just a trick for myself that I know when to change key.

  • And that's what i ment in the first place. It's so easy to play arpeggios 'cos you know it's the right notes, But try to get away from them and really USE your own head instead of fingers. Of course its a good start but unless you ahve your own ideas it doesent help much. Try to solfége and see how you do. It's hard in the beginning but then it gets easier.

  • R u getting this sound out of your Holdsworth?!

  • no, this song is from the accompanying CD to the book mentioned in the "more info"

  • wat are dis.. are dis guitar sshweeps???????????

  • great track man i really learned a lot from it. thanx a lot

  • yeah man, no problem. send the link to friends.

  • So then why did you say you were soloing in E Phyrigian, if it's the same thing as Am

  • because i started and ended on the E note, or the 3rd degree of the C major scale...its more or less a technical thing to say, same notes, just a different way to resolve the scale

  • @x7lost maybe E phrygian is just cooler :D and actually, E Phrygian can be totally different from A minor if you make E the tonal center. i guess it just depends on how you're looking at it

  • this is a nice piece, i soloed over it with the E phyrigian mode, it kinda fits with the Amin7(9)

  • Yeah cause E Phyrigian has the same notes as A Minor, right?

  • yes, they are the same...C Major, A minor, E phyrigian, all three have no sharps or flats

  • @x7lost No it doesnt

  • @Jethroguitarist I think that Amin7(9) would go better with A dorian, E minor, B Phrygian, or D Mixolydian.

  • @TherussianorphanII you're probably right but then again this is jazz, play whatever sounds good

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