Please read the second comment also.... Your historians (with their objective observations and evidence based arguments) can not face ours... They ran away:))) Please convince them to meet our historians, instead of talking nonsense:)
Evidence: VAT-pressrelease.... Google it dude...:)
You know...... None of you dumb asses were there and saw what happened to know what really happened, if the Turks didn't kill all the mother fucking Armenians they should have, because none of you dog breath assmenians deserve to live you all are cock sucking little faggot's.
SHUT THE FCK UP, YOU TRAITOR TANER AKCAM. YOU ESCAPED FROM PRISON. BY DOING THIS YOU COMMITTED MORE OFFENCE IN TURKEY. YOU ARE LICKING THE ARSES OF ARMENIANS AND THE POWER THEY GET FROM IMPERIALS.
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ALL EVIDENCE P.R.O.V.E.S. THAT THE OTTOMAN TURKS COMMITTED THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE.
search "gomidas armenian genocide documents".... there's evidence even from YOUR nation's national archives. turkey, please stop trying to cowardly defend your nation's name. you've already acted barbarically. admitting one of your many mistakes will just take you from a worldwide opinion of -10, to maybe a -8.
stop killing the innocent kurds of turkey and greeks of cyprus... maybe you can save your name.
This is what a terror group of the time in USA ,the SLA ''who hated their own
fascisit AMERICAN goverment dreamed of doing.In 1976 AKCAM
was tried for the murder of a politician but found a way to save his bacon.The prosecutor charged ''Dev Yol '' was the most dangerious lefist group as it was trying to unite the rest.While he was in a Turkish prison he escaped ......... it continues and i can say tons of things about him.
As a result all i can say he is an ex terorist and a BIG LIER.
people they targeted just like victoms of ''Dev Yol'' and now if we come to TANER AKÇAM probably first joined another terror group (THKP-C)implicated in many assassinations then became a founding figure in ''Dev Yol''Aside from being in ''Dev Yol's'' inner circle helping plan group's militant activities he edited ''Del Yols'' magazine,urging militants to take up armed struggle against his fashist goverment and to bring down AMERICAN imperializm.
A principal radical left group in Turkey was ''Dev Yol'' with sister group ''Dev sol''.These two groups operated in same way with Italy's ''Red Bridages''During the 1980s the Red Bridages terrorised Italy and nearly destroyed democracy there '' bombing and killing spreading frear''.This was much ''Dev Yol'' believed and ''Red Bridages'' members explain how '' Dev Yol'' thought and operated well.Prof. Guido,a victom of the ''Red Bridages'' describes the kind of
fuckin' third world nation Armenians you are same LIAR, THE DOGS OF IMPERIALISM AND KILLER OF NEIGHBOORS An African tribe is more civilisated than YOU !
There was no extermination of Armenians. In related news, there were never any Beothuks in Newfoundland; it's just a fantasy story. No Aborigines ever existed in Tasmania; it's all just propaganda.The Bo people of China were just a myth. The Yahi of California were just a hoax made up by liberal politicians. And last, the British were actually kind & generous to the Irish. Stay tuned. After the break Sarah Palin will be joining us to explain how humans & dinosaurs coexisted.
Ahaaa very easy to make FAKE GENOCIDE is not it? Just show poor DEAD TURKISH BODIES AND SAY THEY ARE aRMENIANS hahah. You have to pay back 2.000.000 TURKS BLOOD you can't hide behind your crocodile tears for ever.We calling armenians genocide because in Turkish Language if we calling Turkish Genocide this mean Turks made it. We calling armenian genocide because you made it but you using this word like a dirty game against to Turks Be honest just accept how cheap liar, slanderer, traitors you are
Ahaaa very easy to make FAKE GENOCIDE is not it? Just show poor DEAD TURKISH BODIES AND SAY THEY ARE aRMENIANS hahah. You have to pay back 2.000.000 TURKS BLOOD you can't hide behind your crocodile tears for ever.We calling armenians genocide because in Turkish Language if we calling Turkish Genocide this mean Turks made it. We calling armenian genocide because you made it but you using this word like a dirty game against to Turks Be honest just accept how cheap liar, slanderer, traitors you are
I think one thing Akcam is doing is to promote democracy and freedom of speech in Turkey....BUT wouldn't that be bad for Armenia! ;) just thinking that if Genocide is accepted by Turkey and some apology, maybe some compensation is given...then Turkey will go into European union, then borders will open, turkey will start investing since Armenia has nothing to import so these are VERY bad for Armenia!!!! just saying
@ibellwil it cant be a lie since at the time Ottomas were very brutal, but the problem here is that the current Turkish governement is not an Ottoman governement ,Turkey has gone through many changes because of the efforts of Ataturk, and I am sure if Ataturk were alive he would have accepted the Genocide, since it has nothing to do with insulting the Turkish history.Ataturk did not mention the Genocide because of political reasons for the benifit of Turkey and ever since it has been forgotten
@ibellwil another thing I dont see why it can be a bad thing for Turkey...you know Armenians are not looking to get anything out of this maybe politicians but not a regular armenian you have to trust me on this one,there are many examples of american missionaries at the time helping armenians or orphans at the time,u can blame it on the war...but how many kids during the war can loose their parents all at once and all from armenian decent! just saying
during that time ottomans tried to deport armenians and they died in harsh conditions but also got killed in clashes. same thing as the armenians did by attacking turkish villages with russians behind them ,now you cant call this an armenian genocide and miss the murdered turks by armenians, i mean its not possible ,the world would not allow this kinda stuff and simple close their eyes as it would take place, so its not really soundin fair for both sides .as for akcam a left wing kurd i say LMAO
or those armenians who is so happy to see this guy accepting the genocide one info i will give...HE WAS BORN IN ARDAHAN AND HE IS KURDISH NOT TURKISH!!!!!!!
To all those turks commenting on this page....you will onde day meet you maker and will have to answer to the all mighty what you did to Armenian children, women, elderly and other non combantant people living under your governents rule...ask your grandparents and look them in their eyes when they answer...ask them how many Armenians they killed or whatched their neighbors kill and rape...go ahead ask them. by denying the Armenian genocide you are dipping your hand in the blood of murder...
Well I don't think I would be judged about that 'cos no armenians were being harmed by me. Turks mostly do not deny the deportation of Armenians and it's tragic results. The problem is mainly about the word "genocide" , when you say a genocide I understand systematic killings and concentration camps , which are simply takng advantage of a thnicity. But deportaiton includes soething like " don't care if they succeed or not they are leaving" whch is also shamful yet reasonable.
The mentality of young turks was formed why they suffered , the shrinking empire was overhelmed from the refugees comes from every former imperial land. Young turks were pronationalist , thought like , hey why don't we get rid of our nonturk subjects ultimately they also don't feel as turk or ottoman anymore. Did anyone care for turks who has been deported ? Which I can't say right but influental in their motives. Perhaps armeninas perished because of the hard landcape
Or not having a motherland lke turks had. I don't know , I don't defend it at the same time , but being a muslim society is very hard on earth , your problems are mostly stay obscure but diputes betwen chritians come on stage very brightly. Briefly I don't think turks cared for armenians and were very pissed of ther independence conflit , yet did not benefted from them systematicly and didn't kill them systematicly. Because of that it was very sad but calling it genocide is harsh
It is a big deal because this not only happened in the century I was born in, but also because the USA turns their back on the very people that many Americans tried to save from estermination once long ago!
Don't allow Turkey into the EU until they admit it, and when the start treating their minories right!
Listen to me Armenians! Let your voices be heard! Don't let the stupid president look past this bill again!
Don't let Turkey supress the USA into not passing the bill!
Oh please hurry up..Before you and your historians also get Alzheimer... Dont wait another 100 years...But they cant do this... They did it once and sow the truth: VATpresrelease.PDF
One final thing... We know very well what the aim of your political lies is.... It has nothing to do with "recognizing genocide"...As you also confess: Ararat, Kars, or whatever.... YOU CANT GET ANY PART OF TURKEY WHITOUT A WAR, If you dont dare to fight against NATO `s second strongest army or cause WW3...
Turkey is waiting in patientce to pull the Armenians to the Historians table.. to smash to their ugly faces the official documents, reports from foreign missions of that time and hundreds of approved photos, reports of recently opened 107 mass graves of Muslims and official registrations of population movement, immigrations of Armenians between 1915 - 1922. to USA, France, to Lebanon, Russia, Armenia in hundreds of thousands.. Faceless murderers, liars!!!
And the world is waiting untill some real scientist in Turkey like professor Akcam dares to state that the genocide happen. Wake up from your Ottoman empire fairy tale.
@Nederlander76 Don't tell me. We Turks are inviting world historians, antropologs to sit around the table and all archives of Turkey, Armenia, Russia, Britain and US be opened and brought infront and whoever has something solid in the hand to present to that table. Let authorized men to investigate what exactly happened and sign a statement at the end. We say we obey to that..clear but Armenia keeps running away from table and trying to get the result by rough and tumble, by chaotic propaganda.
What a weak and feeble statements deepturk. What do the Turks want to proof when the evidence is clear and present. Anyway besides Taner Akcam there are more professors like Halil Berktay and more scholars are following to tell the truth about what happened. And deeptuber you seem to be attacked personally. I guess you are not 96 years old with blood on your hands. It is the Turkish government who should apology to the Armenians. And this day will come!
@Nederlander76 and this man Akcam is a very mixed guy. All his life he was in terror against Turkey. Sometimes he was a member of violent leftist group, sometimes he was a Kurdish nationalist but always against Turkey. ımposible to say his views and studies are neutral and scientific. When he was fired from Germany he was finished. All know he was biased and only an Armenian loby group gave a hand to him and took him to USA. Now he is just a tool of Armenian diaspora and he has to go that way.
Sure when a Turk is critical about the genocide it is a bias person. An enemy of the state and someone payed by the Armenian lobby. Come with clear proof that this guy is wrong. He is seen the Ottoman documents. And more people in Turkey are chosing his side. This year the Armenian genocide was comemorated in Turkey on the Taksim square. More people will follow!
@Nederlander76 A big and shameful crime like genocide is to be declared and to be recognized by an international court verdict basing on historical solid evidence and as long as Armenians run away from issuance of such evidence which has to be issued by a commission of historians, antropologs, genecologists and running away from international court, they can not get rid off the title "Liars". Turkey is ready to face the truth, keeps inviting all sides around the table. Where is Armenia? Lost!!
>> So a bloody war started between Armenian and Turkish people, we fighted with Moslims not only in Turkey but also in some villages of Azerbeijan, we destroyed villages, slaughtered people! The Turks acted to protect themselfs only, it was us who guilty, we made a mistake, we defeated, we lost our honor, now there's nothing to do, I sugest we should suicide, yes suicide!"
AND YOU ARE A TURK AND NOT AN ARMENIAN! THATS FOR SURE. LISTEN TO PROFESSOR AKCAM INSTEAD OF OTTOMAN BIAS DOCUMENTS. READ WHAT THE GERMANS HAVE ON PROOF,
@Nederlander76 Why angry? I quoted a confession from the very first prime minister of Armenistan. Tell me what kind of a scientist you need to distort that quote and put the blame on the Turkish people? How do you define bias? you should get rid of your own bias and face your history, your ancetors were treasonous betrayers of the Ottomans.
Sure and I quote the Pope. I guess you got your information from a Turkish website. Give me the resources. And by the way, stop calling me an Armenian when you don´t know my nationality.
@Nederlander76 Listen Armenian (or perhaps you are Kurdish what's the difference, you are all coming from the seeds of betrayers), what is your sources other than Armenian resources? The resource is the Russian Government Library, I merely gave you the translation. Also, what if it was Turkish? Turkish did not betray their allies ever. It is the trait of the Armenians. Resource wise Turkish resources are more credible than Armenians just because of this.
Stop confusing people! ARMENIAN HISTORIANS RAN AWAY IN 2004.
You can"t solve this problem in youtube, parliaments, through rock groups or Kim Kardashian:) BUT YOUR HISTORIANS CANT FACE OURS:)
In 2004, the VIENESSE ARMENIAN-TURKISH PLATFORM (VAT) composed of Austrian, Turkish and Armenian historians was founded to exchange documents about the 1915 events. After receiving 100 Turkish documents, the Armenians abondened the project refusing to continue to fulfil their commitments:) So shut up!
@alperselvi UH you quit confusing people. If the genocide didn't happen, wth is ararat doing in turkey? Why the hell did many armenians including my family move to iran? Are my own parents and grandparents lying to me from the stories how turks killed my great-grandparents family? And how we had to move to iran to escape it? Its pretty damn obvious it happend. If its a lie then wth is it doing in my history book at school? Everyone knows it happend but the turks apparently :) so shut up! :) :)
My gr. mom (fr. Erzurum) tells very different stories.
Document: VATpressrelease
Ararat and this region were always controlled by Turks.Only Ottomans and Seljuks dominated under the last 1000 years.Look also: Scytia,Huns,Hazar Emp,GokTurks,Karluks.
You armns had only once power in eastern anatolia: wwi...and you began to kill your unarmed neighbours with russian guns. Thats way God prefer always Turks in this region.
@alperselvi Well then your granny has alzheimers! Even if she doesn't... your granny vs. my parents, my grandparents, and my great grandparents.. oh yea and all armenians! Yea you lose. Honey, all the armenians would love the historians to meet up, it would show the truth even more. God knows why they would ditch it. Maybe turks bribed them to leave, who knows. All i know, is you all need to quit hiding behind your twisted, badly made up lies and come back to reality.
@alperselvi look if turks did commit a genocide just admit it say it was wrong say that yh some armenians betrayed turkey but sya it was a massacre we are sorry for the past! dats it
@alperselvi God doesn't prefer that nor does he care he just wants all to be in peace,and what you did in 1915 wasn't peaceful at all but we ow you our thanks Turkish brothers.In the name of Armenians everywhere i thank talaat pasha because now there is 1.5 million Armenians in heaven.ahahha you are truly kind people ,peace be with you!
@alperselvi ok here is the confusion the armenians from Turkey were fighting for Turks during the war...BUT the armenians from the Russian side were fighting for Russians against Turks!!!
@alperselvi Stop telling nonsense... Even you don't understand what are you talking about..What kind of hypocrites are you... Shame on you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@alperselvi "Thats way God prefer always Turks in this region." - Historians make more objective observations than that, usually based on sources and facts rather than hazy speculations and silly assertions.
@sweetnsour354 OK ask this question to yourself. For 500 years Ottomans did not killed the Armenians, but instead they called them "Milleti Sadiqa"(trustworthy nation). What happened suddenly that they started to comit genocide on Armenians?Is it a coincidence that this thing happened when western imperialist forces started to provoke ethnic groups against Ottomans so that they could usurp the natural resources in the ottoman land? How did the oil in Mid East become the property of westerners?
@alperselvi The Armenians refused to get involved because it would mean casting doubt on the reality of the Armenian Genocide. I suggest you look up the International Association of Genocide Scholars and study the materials they have published on the Armenian Genocide. I can give you more examples on the issue if you would like.
@alperselvi yes that does make a angle toward the:ARMENIAN GENOCIDE IS FAKE,but we don't have money to fund these things and thats why we cut it off.dude i can take a whole stORY and make it look like turks also killed 1.5mill Kurds, Greeks, Bulgarians.YOU CHANGED THE FACT TO THE WAY YOU LOOK AT IT.ARMENIANS STOPPED IT BECAUSE THEY SPENT ALL THEIR MONEY TRYING TO GET THE DOCUMENTS,WHAT IF YOU GUYZ STOLE THEM,FOR THIS REASON ARMENIANS TOOK THE DOCUMENTS AND HID THEM.CH-CHINGICANGOforever
@alperselvi "If you say that there are Kurds in Turkey you will be punished''. There are 10-15 million Kurds in Turkey. What a country! They lie what is happening today why we are wondering that they lie about their past. One word horrible.
What are you talking about. I am half-kurdish and there are several pro-kurdish parties in Turkey, which can even declare that they want to seperate the country:) You blame the whole country and its nation whitout knowing something about them...One word horrible!
What are you talking about. I am half-kurdish and there are several pro-kurdish parties in Turkey, which can even declare that they want to seperate the country:) You blame the whole country and its nation whitout knowing something about them...One word horrible!
>> We underestimated the power of Turks, we were dreaming a great Armenian project, there were imperialist countries behind this project, in fall of 1920, we had an army with the help of English, they gave us arms and uniforms! we also wanted the support of USA, because we were a small country, we need help. But no support came, they left us alone! >>
Armenian leader of Tashnak (Armenian Revolution Party) Ovanes Kachaznuni in his report in 1923. "... The goverment of Tzar promised us some Turkish cities! We were dreaming to found a separate, free Armenia (in Turkey ofcourse!) With this dream we began to prepare volunteered soldiers to fight with Turks! With the help of Russian soldiers we would win! The Sevr Treaty made our eyes blind! The Turks offered us to talk but we refused which was a murder! >>
He was born in Turkey but he is a Kurdish nationalist was born in Ardahan and he was involved in political movements to establish Kurdish independant state. He is a Kurdish seperatists who would say anything to discredit Turkish Government and Turkish people and culture.
@TurkiyeCumhurbaskani Thank you. Now today, as an Armenian I call you my brother. Thats all it takes. Honestly yes a lot of Armenians want their land back sure, but what most want other than that is admitting the crimes were committed so that our ancestors died with honor. Every time a denial is made, they die all over again. May God Bless you and those you love.
@TurkiyeCumhurbaskani As an Armenian man i can say Turks was right.We attacked to turkish people to get independence.Russians and french gave us a lot of guns to do ethnic cleanzing against turks...we killed so many turkish people.Thanks to christian west, they all been to our side...Turks defended themself....We,the Armenians did against the turks Genoside...We are the armenians gulty ones..I am armenian and living in istanbul happily.long live turkey and turkish people..
We can not understand his motives. With one leg he stands on America and the other on Yerevan. Where his loyalty lies is unknown to us. He disseminated the democratic leftist ideological organizations, he was the most influential person in dissolving the leftist movement in Turkey.
Ocalan warned the left leaning Turkish intellectuals not to fall for
Taner's provocation and invited them to unite and collaborate under the roof of a new political party
Taner Akcam's views, from an interview published in the Turkish daily, Milliyet. Abdullah Ocalan gave a "rebuttal," appearing in a PKK organ published in Europe (at one time, the PKK was one of the darlings of Turk-bashing Europe, before some countries awakened to the fact that they were cuddling terrorists in their midst.)
Both articles provide marvelous illumination as to the "trustworthy" character of Taner Akcam. In short, would you want this man to be your nurturing "visiting professor"?
Terrorist Leader "APO" labels TANER AKCAM a Provocateur, below what APO says
I get to break my silence about Taner Akcam, since he spoke of me the other day, said Abdullah Ocalan, the leader of the PKK who is now serving a life sentence for being the leader of a terrorist group which caused the death of 35,000 people in Eastern Turkey. He now sits alone in a comfortable jail in the island of Imrali, off the coast of Istanbul. 'He almost cussed me' says Abdullah Ocalan about Taner Akcam.
Taner Akcam therefore suffers in some genocide circles, regarding his academic credibility. In a battle with the Turkish Historical Society's Prof. Kemal Cicek , Akcam has been characterized as a "village idiot" among some of his peers.
Taner Akcam will forever have the stigma of being a stooge for the Armenians, and such status can never bode well for the integrity and recognition he must crave.
how do you get 1.5 million armenians dead in 1915 when records show there was no more then 950.000 in the whole ottoman empire ?
Taner Akcam is a ex PKK member and a ex party member of the communist party
he A leftist revolutionist who advocated violence and who was imprisoned for terrorist activities, Akcam escaped from jail and later reinvented himself as a
2 scholar, focusing on the one-note Armenian "Genocide" as his bread-and-butter. His mentor was Vahakn Dadrian, and the way was mysteriously paved for Akcam to become a perpetual "visiting professor" in the USA.
"We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as ways of escape for the Tartars (Turks), and then proceeded in the work of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village. Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts into heaps of stones and dust, and when the villages became untenable and the inhabitants fled from them into the fields, bullets and bayonets completed the work."
O. Appressian; Memoirs of an Armenian officer, Men are Like That, 1926
You can"t solve this problem in parliaments, through propagandas, rock groups or Kim Kardashian. Let historians do this. Ask yourselves:
1-Why doesn"t Armenia open its archives?
2-Why needed the Turks to kill the Armenians, in Ottomans weakest period?
They were almost always the Turks, who had power in this region.If they wanted to do it, you coludn"t find any armenian human being, in this region, long time ago
let us pray for turks and all other nations that are under a delusion. God open their eyes wide and help their lost souls to cleanse from sin their ancestors made. AMМEN âmin !!!
1915 yılında, savaş örtüsü altında, Osmanlı hükümetinin 1,75 hakkında anda) tamamen Türkiye'nin Ermeni nüfusu (sınırdışı karar verdi. Onların planı Suriye ve Mezopotamya (şimdi Irak) çöllerine sürgün dahil. Ermenilerin Yüzbinlerce evlerinden ve ya katledildi ya da sürüldü öldüler kadar kuvvet çölde yürüdü
Türkiye'ye Alman büyükelçisi ev yazdı: "Hükümet gerçekten Ermeni yarış Exterminating hedefine izlemektedir Osmanlı İmparatorluğu '. 1915 ve 1923 tarihi Ermenistan'ın batı kesiminde arasında Ermenilerin boşalttı oldu. Ölüm bilançosu güvenilir bir milyonun üzerinde olduğu tahmin edilmektedir. Olanlar Orta Doğu, Rusya veya USA.EUROPE kaçtı ölmedi
I wander how much money has been given to mr. Akcam to make all those LIES ? you armenians ; it is century old propaganda and you playing with fire you are going to burn youself !
Taner Akcam is a dumb cocksucking Marxist Jew Bolshevik who got kicked out from Turkey for being a traitorous scum! Their was no Armenian Holohoax, period!
@ndyag1 the rest of turks DONT BELIEVE the genocide. Cause their families been killed too. ıf you want them believe, tell them, approach wisely. In turkey we ppl dont sit and plan evilness and plan how to deny the things we know happened. No nation is evil. You r just hateful and its the thing which harms armenians: "hate"
You pretend turks r bad and deny is for purpose. If the public believes that, the government have to accept. No public is evil
Your country and its people refuse to believe that their ancestors were murderous dogs. Your government spreads propaganda to keep this a popular ideal to uphold some kind of dignity.
Of course there are evil nations. And you will find that the most evil nations are currently the most powerful. The most aggressive life forms are always the leaders, that's how life is. The humble ones lag behind, but often remain virtuous.
Your country and its people refuse to believe that their ancestors were murderous dogs. Your government spreads propaganda to keep this a popular ideal to uphold some kind of dignity.
Of course there are evil nations. And you will find that the most evil nations are currently the most powerful. The most aggressive life forms are always the leaders, that's how life is. The humble ones lag behind, but often remain virtuous.
Armenians havent applied International Law Courts i wonder why??? they belive in the genocide happend but they cant even apply because there it a LIE!! Turkish priminister invited armenian goverment several times to investigate together in front of the world but aremenian goverment does not respond!!! i wonder why???they got no proof its a lie!!! Turks have their archives open to the world and armenians closed to the world!! i wonder why?? dont be scared open it TURKS know its a lie!!!
Also, there are clips showing Greek and Armenian Orthodox monks fighting over a claim over territory in a Jerusalem Orthodox Church. You Armenians as well as Greeks are already arguing over claims in an Orthodox cathedral, so how do you think you can unite against Turkish people. I mean you Greeks and Armenians have so much hate in your blood to the point you go against each other, this is how much you guys are united. Think about it, lol.
Don't you know how to stop this hate and lying habit of yours.
Your race's name "turk" is an insult in the whole world. Nobody needs to describe you. All anybody needs to say is "you turk" and the whole world knows what it means.
Armenians dont have any legal evidence its all propaganda. Denouncing Turkey for carrying out atrocities in 1915 before any such investigation is entirely unacceptable! It is impossible to force us to accept allegations of genocide as a result of behind the scenes lobbying efforts in the parliaments of varios countrys!They can try to force the label in this manner as much as they want we wil not accept it, There can be no such acceptance! Turkish archives are open to the world armenian is closed
Do some research about history and the definition of genocide before requesting for recognition. You can't just listen to one side of the history and accept it. Americans tend to accept your story due to the fact that you Armenians have more influence (than Turks) especially through the entertainment industry (e.g. Cher and you guys, forgot your band's name and can't be bothered to look it up). It was the Armenians who started the conflict by joining the ottoman empire's invaders.
Your gangs even killed dozens of people in SIVAS,.Weapons enough to outfit an army(and better ones than the Ottoman army used) were captured from them.
There are no "mass graves" in Anatolia.Therefore,a crack team of Armenian researchers dug here up for 2.5 years during the Malta tribunals.They did researches in Ottoman archives too,just to make their enemy look more miserable and hide because they did not obey the 14 points.What did they come up with?Zilch!
seriosly this so called genocide number started with 300.000 in 1930's, years passed this number dramaticly increased!!! in 1960's went up to 700.000... 1980's it was 1 million. afta 1990's 1.5 million and now its over 2 million!!!
seriosly if this is not propaganda what is it!!!!!
It's amusing to see FuLLiTurk's immense stupidity. His ability to debate rarely goes beyond making incredibly vague, racist comments about Armenians and tooting his own horn.
how is it a lie, when the armenians were on there own land, and were chased off there own land by getting killed in the millions.. my great grandfather was a fench soilder and he wrote everthing about the armenian genocide.
"Many massacres were committed by the Armenians until our army arrived in Erzurum... (after General Odesilitze left) 2,127 Muslim bodies were buried in Erzurum's center. These are entirely men. There are ax, bayonet and bullet wounds on the dead bodies. Lungs of the bodies were removed and sharp stakes were struck in the eyes. There are other bodies around the city."
Official telegram of the Third Royal Army Command, addressed to the Supreme Command, March 19, 1918
"The Dashnak revolutionary society is working to stir up a situation in which Muslims and Armenians will attack each other, and thus pave the way for Russian intervention "
General Mayewski, Russian Consul General in Bitlis and Van, December 1912; source: Kara Schemsi, Turcs et Armeniens devant l'Histoire, Geneve, Imprimerie Nationale, 1919, p. 11
"I killed Muslims by every means possible. Yet it is sometimes a pity to waste bullets for this. The best way is to gather all of these dogs and throw them into wells and then fill the wells with big and heavy stones. as I did. I gathered all of the women, men and children, threw big stones down on top of them. They must never live on this earth."
A. Lalayan, Revolutsionniy Vostok (Revolutionary East) No: 2-3, Moscow, 1936.
" All Turkish children also should be killed as they form a danger to the Armenian nation"
Hamparsum Boyaciyan, nicknamed "Murad," a former Ottoman parliamentarian who led Armenian guerilla forces, ravaging Turkish villages behind the lines, 1914. Cited from Mikael Varandian, "History of the Dashnaktsutiun.
Yes nobody will put the us and turkish relation in danger,only the turks themself,what about the (this an evidense mr evidense) attack of the turkish official on an ambassy employee in abou Dabi.Don't tell me it is a lie,mate attacking people is your trade mark.And the armenian genocide is a fact and the evidense is me descendent of the armenian genocide and that the big evidense,my neighbour is assyrian from Mardin he is telling you that he is an evidense too.
Armenians dont have any legal evidence its all propaganda. Denouncing Turkey for carrying out atrocities in 1915 before any such investigation is entirely unacceptable! It is impossible to force us to accept allegations of genocide as a result of behind the scenes lobbying efforts in the parliaments of varios countrys!They can try to force the label in this manner as much as they want we wil not accept it, There can be no such acceptance! Turkish archives are open to the world armenian is closed
If the whole world 'knows this', then why are you being a troll about it?
"Don't danger the TURKISH - AMERICAN FRIENDSHIP
...it would be a loss for the U.S.!"
No, it won't. If Turkey and the US break diplomatic relations, Turkey is going to suffer more. The US is one of Turkey's most crucial allies, but other than the Iraq war, the US doesn't need Turkey.
"Armenians = DISHONEST SUBHUMANS!"
Yet, you criticize Armenians for 'preaching hatred of Turks".
Mr might have forgot about Hocali, Azerbajcan, 1992 genocide? armenians are the most innicent looking butchers in history. they killed about 600 thousands civilians in east anatolia during ww1. they are so afraid of the fact that the truth would be revailed so they keep their archives closed to the world. they were very proud to say that 150 thousands armenians fought with russians against turks during ww1 in east anatolia at paris congress after the war! wash the blood in your hands first!
"The Dashnaks and Hunchaks have terrorized their own countrymen, they have stirred up the Muslim people with their thefts and insanities, and have paralyzed all efforts made to carry out reforms; all the events that have taken place in Anatolia are the responsibility of the crimes committed by the Armenian revolutionary committees."
Williams, The British vice-consul, writing from Van. (March 4, 1896, British Blue Book, Nr. 8 1896, p.108.)
armenia was invaded by many nations, including the Asyrians, Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, Arabs, Mongols, Persians, Ottoman Turks and Russians. Turks were the only ones to giv armenians opurtunity to be in goverment, army generals and many high places in the ottoman empire.and you tell me turks comited genocide.. you gota be kiding me!!!! armenians have sided with russians because they promisd armenians their own lands if they helpd the rusians, so behind enemy lines armenian SLAUGHTERD TURKS
Although, the Turks didn't treat the Armenians and other Christian and Jewish ethnic groups as poorly as Shariah law would mandate, they allowed very few non-Muslims to serve in the government or the military, unless they converted. Besides, that was BEFORE 1915, so, shut up. Most of the Armenians didn't side with the Russians. Only a few of them did, and even fewer of those massacred Muslim. Gross generalizations don't prove a thing, you know, they just make you look like an idiot.
"I killed Muslims by every means possible. Yet it is sometimes a pity to waste bullets for this. The best way is to gather all of these dogs and throw them into wells and then fill the wells with big and heavy stones. as I did. I gathered all of the women, men and children, threw big stones down on top of them. They must never live on this earth."
A. Lalayan, Revolutsionniy Vostok (Revolutionary East) No: 2-3, Moscow, 1936.
if there was a genocide of 1,5 million then show us where the mass graves are in anatolia??? At least show us 1 mass grave in anatolia with atleast 10 or 20 armenian bodys in it!! please show us but theres none!!! if there was a genocide of 1,5 million there would be armenian boddies pissing out of the soil in anatolia, so seriosly armenians next time make up a better lie...
There are some mass graves of Armenians in Syria and Turkey, but most of the people who died in the genocide were not burried, but left on the side of the road to rot away. Here are some places where there are mass graves:
Deir-el-Zor, Van, Bitlis, Sivas, Diyarbekir, Aleppo, among others.
its funny when theres so called armenian genocide march there 100's of armenians out there protesting infront of the TURKish embassy around the world.its also really funny when the Turkish goverment invites armenia several time to investigate the issue infron of the world, theres no armenians out there theres,no armenian goverment out there its really funny isn it??armenians cant face the truth!!! They are liers they are betrayers they murderers!! they genocided innocent turks and muslims!
" All Turkish children also should be killed as they form a danger to the Armenian nation"
Hamparsum Boyaciyan, nicknamed "Murad," a former Ottoman parliamentarian who led Armenian guerilla forces, ravaging Turkish villages behind the lines, 1914. Cited from Mikael Varandian, "History of the Dashnaktsutiun."
The Russian documents a Ally of Armenian at the time, reported that Turkish old men in the towns were murderd, cooked and fed tho there wives. A russian Document. The Archives have been open to everyone always at no limitation. The Armenian one, unfortunatly Never. Forged (proven by the INTERNATIONAL courts) documents signed have been put on the Armenian ground of death (I dont remember the name.. Armenians are too heated over a centurty old war but have no idea what the facts are.
@FuLLiTurk you can see the proove in this video Şu an 2 tane turk siktim! Kaştane sikecem sizden! Ya bundan kaç tane olur? 350 -milyon TÜRK . Ben bıktım sizleri sikmekten, ama, siz sikilmekden bıkmıyorsuz, 350 -milyon TÜRK sikecem . neden? Sizi sikmekden medem bulanıyor,.
He is not a turkish. He is half kurd and half armenian,there is no objective comment. He is an enemy of turkey so how can we hear truth information from this guy?
Armenians are very Evil like jews they have too much control in USA..........Turks didnot kill them in a big number as they claim but they stab Turkish muslims when whole world start killing them during collapse of Ottomon........Pakistanis love Turks and real Genocide is done to Natives of Population done by White Europeans around the world not on the other way around
@davidshaz20000 you have no idea what you are talking about what you mean whith evil?????? what is evil????what has pakistani to do with the armenian genocide.I think you are a waste that is all
@davidshaz20000 yes brother you are right, armenians have very rich and strong lobbies around the world they only bribe parliments so they can accept the so called genocide lie...
armenians still have not appied to international law courts because they no that the world will find out that armenians slaughterd innocent muslims in anatolia!!!!
"armenians have very rich and strong lobbies around the world they only bribe parliments so they can accept the so called genocide lie..."
Yeah, not like those Turkish lobbyists, the very same ones who have bribed the British and American legislative branches to not recognize the genocide time and time and time again. Nope, like those ones at all.
dont forget what crusades done when they took over the muslim lands, they ask one question convert to christianity or get your head choped off by thier filthuy swords!!!!
search up the crusades in spain when they were slaughtering innocent jeyws and muslims, search up the genocide they have commited..... ottomans got them and brang them to the ottoman lands so they can all live thir religion peacfully...
"armenians still have not appied to international law courts"
The ICJ already knows that the genocide happened; quote:
"The practice of genocide has occurred throughout human history. The Roman persecution of the Christians, the Turkish massacres of Armenians, the extermination of millions of Jews and Poles by the Nazis are outstanding examples of the crime of genocide."
Now, kindly fuck off and live under a bridge, troll.
armenians cannot even proove we have a dirty history infact we have the cleanest history in the world and TURKS are ready to proove it!!! armenians still have thier arcives closed to the world!!!! open it so the world can see whos history is dirty!!!!!!
come on open it armenia...!!!
armenia STOP hiding your archives!!!!!
only armenian archives are closed to the world!!!!
when the Turkish PM offered to look at the archives building a committee of academicians and scholar to the president of armenia and the armenian president refused it.
how come us turks are so confident about their past and armenians are not?
Bribing the parliments and historians to write fictional books about genocide is easier for you armenians than accepting TURKish goverments joint comission offer infront of the world!!!
I wonder why dont armenians attack the TURKS now, why are they doing this propaganda to get land and money? i guess they know that our millitary is so powerfull... Unless if 4, 5, 6 or 7 countrys attack us tomorrow at once again, then armenians will declare war against TURKS. Because their dogs! their betrayers! They are murderers!! they wait for the right time to attack. Face us like a man dont be affraid like a girl armenia
You know and I know that the United States government isn't about to give Mexico one inch of land and neither is our government going to give Native Americans one inch of land either. The same logic applies to Turkey and they aren't going to give Armenia one inch of their lands. I suggest you take a look at the Lausanne Peace Treaty that took place in July 24, 1923. It is past time for you Armenians to get a life and love your fellow man as your Bible teaches you to do.
Armenians are baby killers if you dont beleive me watch this REAL VIDEO!! its called "Genocide of Azeris by Armenians!" please copy and paste thank you
You Armenians are some of the world's best con artists to ever live on planet earth. How can you Armenians keep a straight face in creating your U.S. genocide memorial two blocks from my White House in Washington, D.C.? What did the United States have to do with anything in the Ottoman Empire in 1915? The United States was never at war with the Ottoman Empire in1915 — then or ever. The United States was at war with you Armenians as a part of the Soviet Union for many years though.
Please STOP deleting Turkish comments, its not fair. please STOP the armenian propaganda! just because armenians cannot answer my questions, you armenians have no right to delete Turkish comments. Dont try to hide the truth like your armenian goverment! Face the truth, i know truth hurts! Shame on propaganda armenia! Shame on armenia! shame on baby killers! shame on you armenia so please STOP deleting Turkish comments and let every one see the truth!
@FuLLiTurk you are mixing the exiled armenian and the armenian of armenia for your Knowledge the turkish empire before attaturk was mixture of peaceful people ,kurdes how many kurdes are killing every day??? no idea ??do you???Armenian very smart and artisans,the assyrians,the greeks,the ottoman empire eliminate anything which was not muslim
our ancesters are victim of this decision you don't need to panic that is facts if you don't accept it you are ignorant.
@raphael3551 you are a typical brain washed armenian!!!! if ottomans were destroying anything non muslim then howcome today theres more churches in muslim Turkey thann christian armenia haahahahhahaa you dumb armenian lol
do some research dont make a fool of yourself on here....
how come theres 10's of thousands of greaks armenian assyryans and jews still living their religion in TURKEY???? HAHAHAHAHA its because TURKey is a free country not like armenia... armenia is an aryan state!
Yes more empty churches, you know you are an angry person I realise that you all Turks are angry people you should be little pacifist, but that is your trade mark war and killing and you call turkey free country apart Istanbul no place were safe never felt comfortable there I met lots of nice people .and you are writing to somebody never knew Armenia,my grandparent been exiled by your ancestor half of then killed by their own government which is called genocide This fact mr FulliignorantTurk
@raphael3551 A competent tribunal was set in motion, to find individual Ottomans guilty of massacres. This was the Malta Tribunal. It never went to trial, because for over two years, its administrators could not find evidence for conviction. The archives of several nations were searched, including the archives of the United States, and certainly the archives of the Ottoman Empire, which was under the control of the British occupying Istanbul. Every accused was set free at the end.
Yes you are right and Ataturk himself said the extermination of the Armenians was a mistake from the government of that time. Now if the people who were there they are not criminal of course they must set free.You are a very proud Turk but you are not guilty of that genocide, but that does not mean that the massacre has not happened you realise that I am after fact not after bringing you down with all your nonsense .They accused people who had nothing to do with the ardering of extermination
What you mean with bullshit mr Genchmen man .You cannot comment only one word to make a point???For your information yes you are the foundations of ethnic cleansing, you killed the Armenian because they were Christian, and after that you obliged the one who did leave had to change his name to convert etc... And the funny part the name .example mehmed son of Hagop, or Hassan son of Meguerdich what you say about that you one word commentator genchmen man .
Do you understand what means imperialisme?it is a system nothing to do with the armenian extermination and deportation that your ancestors .You don't know what you are talking about mr genchmen man".Will get lost in its vortex" is that a google translater phrase????
Armenians havent applied International Law Courts i wonder why??? they belive in the genocide happend but they cant even apply because there it a LIE!! Turkish priminister invited armenian goverment several times to investigate together in front of the world but aremenian goverment does not respond!!! i wonder why???they got no proof its a lie!!! Turks have their archives open to the world and armenians closed to the world!! i wonder why?? dont be scared open it TURKS know its a lie!!!
Armenians dont have any legal evidence its all propaganda. Denouncing Turkey for carrying out atrocities in 1915 before any such investigation is entirely unacceptable! It is impossible to force us to accept allegations of genocide as a result of behind the scenes lobbying efforts in the parliaments of varios countrys!They can try to force the label in this manner as much as they want we wil not accept it, There can be no such acceptance! Turkish archives are open to the world armenian is closed
Mr. sleepy head you don't ask yourself where all those Armenian inSYRIA,Greece,Lebanon,iraq,israel,palestine,jordan,egypte,france,italy,england america,australia come from ?
with a diet similar as yours,IShkembecorba,taouk,adapazar kebabi,basterma soujoukimambaildy,?
perhaps those food you can find them in turkey at Mac donald.
WAke up they have the same tradition as you sleepy head , wake up be from this world is that enough evidence ?DEPORTATION is genocide to .sleepy head
Please read the second comment also.... Your historians (with their objective observations and evidence based arguments) can not face ours... They ran away:))) Please convince them to meet our historians, instead of talking nonsense:)
Evidence: VAT-pressrelease.... Google it dude...:)
alperselvi 1 month ago
You know...... None of you dumb asses were there and saw what happened to know what really happened, if the Turks didn't kill all the mother fucking Armenians they should have, because none of you dog breath assmenians deserve to live you all are cock sucking little faggot's.
bsuzal 1 month ago
SHUT THE FCK UP, YOU TRAITOR TANER AKCAM. YOU ESCAPED FROM PRISON. BY DOING THIS YOU COMMITTED MORE OFFENCE IN TURKEY. YOU ARE LICKING THE ARSES OF ARMENIANS AND THE POWER THEY GET FROM IMPERIALS.
SEMRAUZ 1 month ago
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Among thousands of Turks who did recognized the Armenian Genocide :
Taner Akçam One of the first to work on the Ottoman Archives
Halil Berktay (İstanbul University) he declared « There are tonnes of documents attesting the reality» ;
Ahmet İnsel (Paris + Galatasaray University)
Fikret Adanır . He wrote « L'actualité du génocide des Arméniens »
Altan Gökalp,
Engin Akarlı
Fatma Müge Göçek
and many others as ORHAN PAMUK (Nobel
April1915 1 month ago in playlist Armenian History
If you go to jail if you say it happened.... Then it happened. Let's not over complicate this
AbuMatthew11 2 months ago
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TELL THE TRUTH, U FUCKIN ANIMAL TURKS !!!!!!!
YOU INFIDEL MOTHER FUCKERS !!!!!!!!!!!
FUCK YOUR KORAN AND ALL OF YOUR GOD;S !!!!!!!!!!
HISTORICAL INFIDEL MOTHER FUCKERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ballinss07 3 months ago
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arzoyan 3 months ago 2
ALL EVIDENCE P.R.O.V.E.S. THAT THE OTTOMAN TURKS COMMITTED THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE.
search "gomidas armenian genocide documents".... there's evidence even from YOUR nation's national archives. turkey, please stop trying to cowardly defend your nation's name. you've already acted barbarically. admitting one of your many mistakes will just take you from a worldwide opinion of -10, to maybe a -8.
stop killing the innocent kurds of turkey and greeks of cyprus... maybe you can save your name.
nuneh 6 months ago
This is what a terror group of the time in USA ,the SLA ''who hated their own
fascisit AMERICAN goverment dreamed of doing.In 1976 AKCAM
was tried for the murder of a politician but found a way to save his bacon.The prosecutor charged ''Dev Yol '' was the most dangerious lefist group as it was trying to unite the rest.While he was in a Turkish prison he escaped ......... it continues and i can say tons of things about him.
As a result all i can say he is an ex terorist and a BIG LIER.
ibellwil 7 months ago
people they targeted just like victoms of ''Dev Yol'' and now if we come to TANER AKÇAM probably first joined another terror group (THKP-C)implicated in many assassinations then became a founding figure in ''Dev Yol''Aside from being in ''Dev Yol's'' inner circle helping plan group's militant activities he edited ''Del Yols'' magazine,urging militants to take up armed struggle against his fashist goverment and to bring down AMERICAN imperializm.
ibellwil 7 months ago
A principal radical left group in Turkey was ''Dev Yol'' with sister group ''Dev sol''.These two groups operated in same way with Italy's ''Red Bridages''During the 1980s the Red Bridages terrorised Italy and nearly destroyed democracy there '' bombing and killing spreading frear''.This was much ''Dev Yol'' believed and ''Red Bridages'' members explain how '' Dev Yol'' thought and operated well.Prof. Guido,a victom of the ''Red Bridages'' describes the kind of
ibellwil 7 months ago
Taner akçam senin olmayan şerefini sikiyim.
ibuyukuran 7 months ago
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fuckin' third world nation Armenians you are same LIAR, THE DOGS OF IMPERIALISM AND KILLER OF NEIGHBOORS An African tribe is more civilisated than YOU !
lyoizisi 9 months ago
Turks are worse then Nazis.
Paintballerfromhell1 10 months ago
@Paintballerfromhell1 TANER AKCAM IS ARMENIAN ORIGIN AND HE IS LIAR!!!
HE NEVER WORK ON ARCHIEVES OF OTTOMANS!
A THEORY CAN BE TRUE, IF EVRYBODY ACCEPT IT!!!
TURKIYE ACCEPT XOCALI GENOCIDE!
00thelastottoman00 7 months ago
he is ignorant and stupid
tekerirem 10 months ago
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There was no extermination of Armenians. In related news, there were never any Beothuks in Newfoundland; it's just a fantasy story. No Aborigines ever existed in Tasmania; it's all just propaganda.The Bo people of China were just a myth. The Yahi of California were just a hoax made up by liberal politicians. And last, the British were actually kind & generous to the Irish. Stay tuned. After the break Sarah Palin will be joining us to explain how humans & dinosaurs coexisted.
ArmenOfTheNorth 10 months ago
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Ahaaa very easy to make FAKE GENOCIDE is not it? Just show poor DEAD TURKISH BODIES AND SAY THEY ARE aRMENIANS hahah. You have to pay back 2.000.000 TURKS BLOOD you can't hide behind your crocodile tears for ever.We calling armenians genocide because in Turkish Language if we calling Turkish Genocide this mean Turks made it. We calling armenian genocide because you made it but you using this word like a dirty game against to Turks Be honest just accept how cheap liar, slanderer, traitors you are
punkboyful 10 months ago
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Ahaaa very easy to make FAKE GENOCIDE is not it? Just show poor DEAD TURKISH BODIES AND SAY THEY ARE aRMENIANS hahah. You have to pay back 2.000.000 TURKS BLOOD you can't hide behind your crocodile tears for ever.We calling armenians genocide because in Turkish Language if we calling Turkish Genocide this mean Turks made it. We calling armenian genocide because you made it but you using this word like a dirty game against to Turks Be honest just accept how cheap liar, slanderer, traitors you are
punkboyful 10 months ago
I think one thing Akcam is doing is to promote democracy and freedom of speech in Turkey....BUT wouldn't that be bad for Armenia! ;) just thinking that if Genocide is accepted by Turkey and some apology, maybe some compensation is given...then Turkey will go into European union, then borders will open, turkey will start investing since Armenia has nothing to import so these are VERY bad for Armenia!!!! just saying
liilu8 11 months ago
@liilu8 in conclusion I dont like this guy...very fishy....
liilu8 11 months ago
@liilu8
would you like to accept a lie that u didnt do???????
ibellwil 7 months ago
@ibellwil it cant be a lie since at the time Ottomas were very brutal, but the problem here is that the current Turkish governement is not an Ottoman governement ,Turkey has gone through many changes because of the efforts of Ataturk, and I am sure if Ataturk were alive he would have accepted the Genocide, since it has nothing to do with insulting the Turkish history.Ataturk did not mention the Genocide because of political reasons for the benifit of Turkey and ever since it has been forgotten
liilu8 7 months ago
@ibellwil another thing I dont see why it can be a bad thing for Turkey...you know Armenians are not looking to get anything out of this maybe politicians but not a regular armenian you have to trust me on this one,there are many examples of american missionaries at the time helping armenians or orphans at the time,u can blame it on the war...but how many kids during the war can loose their parents all at once and all from armenian decent! just saying
liilu8 7 months ago
during that time ottomans tried to deport armenians and they died in harsh conditions but also got killed in clashes. same thing as the armenians did by attacking turkish villages with russians behind them ,now you cant call this an armenian genocide and miss the murdered turks by armenians, i mean its not possible ,the world would not allow this kinda stuff and simple close their eyes as it would take place, so its not really soundin fair for both sides .as for akcam a left wing kurd i say LMAO
pornpan96 1 year ago
or those armenians who is so happy to see this guy accepting the genocide one info i will give...HE WAS BORN IN ARDAHAN AND HE IS KURDISH NOT TURKISH!!!!!!!
mems1453 1 year ago 2
To all those turks commenting on this page....you will onde day meet you maker and will have to answer to the all mighty what you did to Armenian children, women, elderly and other non combantant people living under your governents rule...ask your grandparents and look them in their eyes when they answer...ask them how many Armenians they killed or whatched their neighbors kill and rape...go ahead ask them. by denying the Armenian genocide you are dipping your hand in the blood of murder...
crusader7001 1 year ago
@crusader7001
Well I don't think I would be judged about that 'cos no armenians were being harmed by me. Turks mostly do not deny the deportation of Armenians and it's tragic results. The problem is mainly about the word "genocide" , when you say a genocide I understand systematic killings and concentration camps , which are simply takng advantage of a thnicity. But deportaiton includes soething like " don't care if they succeed or not they are leaving" whch is also shamful yet reasonable.
vakasim 1 year ago
@crusader7001
The mentality of young turks was formed why they suffered , the shrinking empire was overhelmed from the refugees comes from every former imperial land. Young turks were pronationalist , thought like , hey why don't we get rid of our nonturk subjects ultimately they also don't feel as turk or ottoman anymore. Did anyone care for turks who has been deported ? Which I can't say right but influental in their motives. Perhaps armeninas perished because of the hard landcape
vakasim 1 year ago
@crusader7001
Or not having a motherland lke turks had. I don't know , I don't defend it at the same time , but being a muslim society is very hard on earth , your problems are mostly stay obscure but diputes betwen chritians come on stage very brightly. Briefly I don't think turks cared for armenians and were very pissed of ther independence conflit , yet did not benefted from them systematicly and didn't kill them systematicly. Because of that it was very sad but calling it genocide is harsh
vakasim 1 year ago
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jjonad 1 year ago
It is a big deal because this not only happened in the century I was born in, but also because the USA turns their back on the very people that many Americans tried to save from estermination once long ago!
Don't allow Turkey into the EU until they admit it, and when the start treating their minories right!
Listen to me Armenians! Let your voices be heard! Don't let the stupid president look past this bill again!
Don't let Turkey supress the USA into not passing the bill!
mamc1986 1 year ago
Oh please hurry up..Before you and your historians also get Alzheimer... Dont wait another 100 years...But they cant do this... They did it once and sow the truth: VATpresrelease.PDF
One final thing... We know very well what the aim of your political lies is.... It has nothing to do with "recognizing genocide"...As you also confess: Ararat, Kars, or whatever.... YOU CANT GET ANY PART OF TURKEY WHITOUT A WAR, If you dont dare to fight against NATO `s second strongest army or cause WW3...
alperselvi 1 year ago 9
Turkey is waiting in patientce to pull the Armenians to the Historians table.. to smash to their ugly faces the official documents, reports from foreign missions of that time and hundreds of approved photos, reports of recently opened 107 mass graves of Muslims and official registrations of population movement, immigrations of Armenians between 1915 - 1922. to USA, France, to Lebanon, Russia, Armenia in hundreds of thousands.. Faceless murderers, liars!!!
deeptuber109 1 year ago 5
@deeptuber109
And the world is waiting untill some real scientist in Turkey like professor Akcam dares to state that the genocide happen. Wake up from your Ottoman empire fairy tale.
Nederlander76 1 year ago
@Nederlander76 Don't tell me. We Turks are inviting world historians, antropologs to sit around the table and all archives of Turkey, Armenia, Russia, Britain and US be opened and brought infront and whoever has something solid in the hand to present to that table. Let authorized men to investigate what exactly happened and sign a statement at the end. We say we obey to that..clear but Armenia keeps running away from table and trying to get the result by rough and tumble, by chaotic propaganda.
deeptuber109 1 year ago
@deeptuber109
What a weak and feeble statements deepturk. What do the Turks want to proof when the evidence is clear and present. Anyway besides Taner Akcam there are more professors like Halil Berktay and more scholars are following to tell the truth about what happened. And deeptuber you seem to be attacked personally. I guess you are not 96 years old with blood on your hands. It is the Turkish government who should apology to the Armenians. And this day will come!
Nederlander76 1 year ago
@Nederlander76 Once Armenians dares to constitute that commission we will all be able to see what genocide was it..
Armenian genocide or Kurdish genocide??
Who will appolgise? We will see.
deeptuber109 1 year ago
@Nederlander76 and this man Akcam is a very mixed guy. All his life he was in terror against Turkey. Sometimes he was a member of violent leftist group, sometimes he was a Kurdish nationalist but always against Turkey. ımposible to say his views and studies are neutral and scientific. When he was fired from Germany he was finished. All know he was biased and only an Armenian loby group gave a hand to him and took him to USA. Now he is just a tool of Armenian diaspora and he has to go that way.
deeptuber109 1 year ago
@deeptuber109
Sure when a Turk is critical about the genocide it is a bias person. An enemy of the state and someone payed by the Armenian lobby. Come with clear proof that this guy is wrong. He is seen the Ottoman documents. And more people in Turkey are chosing his side. This year the Armenian genocide was comemorated in Turkey on the Taksim square. More people will follow!
Nederlander76 1 year ago
@Nederlander76 A big and shameful crime like genocide is to be declared and to be recognized by an international court verdict basing on historical solid evidence and as long as Armenians run away from issuance of such evidence which has to be issued by a commission of historians, antropologs, genecologists and running away from international court, they can not get rid off the title "Liars". Turkey is ready to face the truth, keeps inviting all sides around the table. Where is Armenia? Lost!!
deeptuber109 1 year ago
>> So a bloody war started between Armenian and Turkish people, we fighted with Moslims not only in Turkey but also in some villages of Azerbeijan, we destroyed villages, slaughtered people! The Turks acted to protect themselfs only, it was us who guilty, we made a mistake, we defeated, we lost our honor, now there's nothing to do, I sugest we should suicide, yes suicide!"
Fussinated 1 year ago
@Fussinated
AND YOU ARE A TURK AND NOT AN ARMENIAN! THATS FOR SURE. LISTEN TO PROFESSOR AKCAM INSTEAD OF OTTOMAN BIAS DOCUMENTS. READ WHAT THE GERMANS HAVE ON PROOF,
Nederlander76 1 year ago
@Nederlander76 Why angry? I quoted a confession from the very first prime minister of Armenistan. Tell me what kind of a scientist you need to distort that quote and put the blame on the Turkish people? How do you define bias? you should get rid of your own bias and face your history, your ancetors were treasonous betrayers of the Ottomans.
Fussinated 1 year ago
@Fussinated
Sure and I quote the Pope. I guess you got your information from a Turkish website. Give me the resources. And by the way, stop calling me an Armenian when you don´t know my nationality.
Nederlander76 1 year ago
@Nederlander76 Listen Armenian (or perhaps you are Kurdish what's the difference, you are all coming from the seeds of betrayers), what is your sources other than Armenian resources? The resource is the Russian Government Library, I merely gave you the translation. Also, what if it was Turkish? Turkish did not betray their allies ever. It is the trait of the Armenians. Resource wise Turkish resources are more credible than Armenians just because of this.
Fussinated 1 year ago
Stop confusing people! ARMENIAN HISTORIANS RAN AWAY IN 2004.
You can"t solve this problem in youtube, parliaments, through rock groups or Kim Kardashian:) BUT YOUR HISTORIANS CANT FACE OURS:)
In 2004, the VIENESSE ARMENIAN-TURKISH PLATFORM (VAT) composed of Austrian, Turkish and Armenian historians was founded to exchange documents about the 1915 events. After receiving 100 Turkish documents, the Armenians abondened the project refusing to continue to fulfil their commitments:) So shut up!
alperselvi 1 year ago 28
@alperselvi UH you quit confusing people. If the genocide didn't happen, wth is ararat doing in turkey? Why the hell did many armenians including my family move to iran? Are my own parents and grandparents lying to me from the stories how turks killed my great-grandparents family? And how we had to move to iran to escape it? Its pretty damn obvious it happend. If its a lie then wth is it doing in my history book at school? Everyone knows it happend but the turks apparently :) so shut up! :) :)
sweetnsour354 1 year ago
@sweetnsour354
Stories:)
My gr. mom (fr. Erzurum) tells very different stories.
Document: VATpressrelease
Ararat and this region were always controlled by Turks.Only Ottomans and Seljuks dominated under the last 1000 years.Look also: Scytia,Huns,Hazar Emp,GokTurks,Karluks.
You armns had only once power in eastern anatolia: wwi...and you began to kill your unarmed neighbours with russian guns. Thats way God prefer always Turks in this region.
Please, convince your historians to meet ours
alperselvi 1 year ago 27
@alperselvi Well then your granny has alzheimers! Even if she doesn't... your granny vs. my parents, my grandparents, and my great grandparents.. oh yea and all armenians! Yea you lose. Honey, all the armenians would love the historians to meet up, it would show the truth even more. God knows why they would ditch it. Maybe turks bribed them to leave, who knows. All i know, is you all need to quit hiding behind your twisted, badly made up lies and come back to reality.
sweetnsour354 1 year ago
@alperselvi look if turks did commit a genocide just admit it say it was wrong say that yh some armenians betrayed turkey but sya it was a massacre we are sorry for the past! dats it
timetochilli 1 year ago
@alperselvi God doesn't prefer that nor does he care he just wants all to be in peace,and what you did in 1915 wasn't peaceful at all but we ow you our thanks Turkish brothers.In the name of Armenians everywhere i thank talaat pasha because now there is 1.5 million Armenians in heaven.ahahha you are truly kind people ,peace be with you!
ArthaxtaDaVince777 9 months ago
@alperselvi ok here is the confusion the armenians from Turkey were fighting for Turks during the war...BUT the armenians from the Russian side were fighting for Russians against Turks!!!
so who's to blame the soldiers?
liilu8 7 months ago
@alperselvi Ochkhar!!!!!!!!!!!
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@alperselvi Stop telling nonsense... Even you don't understand what are you talking about..What kind of hypocrites are you... Shame on you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Artur8182 2 months ago
@alperselvi "Thats way God prefer always Turks in this region." - Historians make more objective observations than that, usually based on sources and facts rather than hazy speculations and silly assertions.
HistoryLubber 1 month ago
@sweetnsour354 OK ask this question to yourself. For 500 years Ottomans did not killed the Armenians, but instead they called them "Milleti Sadiqa"(trustworthy nation). What happened suddenly that they started to comit genocide on Armenians?Is it a coincidence that this thing happened when western imperialist forces started to provoke ethnic groups against Ottomans so that they could usurp the natural resources in the ottoman land? How did the oil in Mid East become the property of westerners?
Fussinated 1 year ago
@alperselvi: INFORM YOURSELF: thurly(dot)net/0a28
1915AGHET 1 year ago
@alperselvi The Armenians refused to get involved because it would mean casting doubt on the reality of the Armenian Genocide. I suggest you look up the International Association of Genocide Scholars and study the materials they have published on the Armenian Genocide. I can give you more examples on the issue if you would like.
rainjazzed 1 year ago
@alperselvi yes that does make a angle toward the:ARMENIAN GENOCIDE IS FAKE,but we don't have money to fund these things and thats why we cut it off.dude i can take a whole stORY and make it look like turks also killed 1.5mill Kurds, Greeks, Bulgarians.YOU CHANGED THE FACT TO THE WAY YOU LOOK AT IT.ARMENIANS STOPPED IT BECAUSE THEY SPENT ALL THEIR MONEY TRYING TO GET THE DOCUMENTS,WHAT IF YOU GUYZ STOLE THEM,FOR THIS REASON ARMENIANS TOOK THE DOCUMENTS AND HID THEM.CH-CHINGICANGOforever
ArthaxtaDaVince777 9 months ago
@alperselvi "If you say that there are Kurds in Turkey you will be punished''. There are 10-15 million Kurds in Turkey. What a country! They lie what is happening today why we are wondering that they lie about their past. One word horrible.
amelli5555 3 months ago
@amelli5555
What are you talking about. I am half-kurdish and there are several pro-kurdish parties in Turkey, which can even declare that they want to seperate the country:) You blame the whole country and its nation whitout knowing something about them...One word horrible!
alperselvi 2 months ago
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@amelli5555
What are you talking about. I am half-kurdish and there are several pro-kurdish parties in Turkey, which can even declare that they want to seperate the country:) You blame the whole country and its nation whitout knowing something about them...One word horrible!
alperselvi 2 months ago
@alperselvi Go to the hell!!! And, by the way, mind your grammar when writing in English...!
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>> We underestimated the power of Turks, we were dreaming a great Armenian project, there were imperialist countries behind this project, in fall of 1920, we had an army with the help of English, they gave us arms and uniforms! we also wanted the support of USA, because we were a small country, we need help. But no support came, they left us alone! >>
Fussinated 1 year ago
Armenian leader of Tashnak (Armenian Revolution Party) Ovanes Kachaznuni in his report in 1923. "... The goverment of Tzar promised us some Turkish cities! We were dreaming to found a separate, free Armenia (in Turkey ofcourse!) With this dream we began to prepare volunteered soldiers to fight with Turks! With the help of Russian soldiers we would win! The Sevr Treaty made our eyes blind! The Turks offered us to talk but we refused which was a murder! >>
Fussinated 1 year ago
He was born in Turkey but he is a Kurdish nationalist was born in Ardahan and he was involved in political movements to establish Kurdish independant state. He is a Kurdish seperatists who would say anything to discredit Turkish Government and Turkish people and culture.
Fussinated 1 year ago
@fretfrek
Dear Armenian TERRORIST ;
You promising to Muslims again,
"When the opportunity come"
You will kill many babies as passible !!!
You church has tautht you WELL !!!
AnadoluHilali 1 year ago
as a Turkish I have accepted this, Ottoman Turks did a genocide towards Armenians, that is disgusting and inhumane
TurkiyeCumhurbaskani 1 year ago
@TurkiyeCumhurbaskani Thank you. Now today, as an Armenian I call you my brother. Thats all it takes. Honestly yes a lot of Armenians want their land back sure, but what most want other than that is admitting the crimes were committed so that our ancestors died with honor. Every time a denial is made, they die all over again. May God Bless you and those you love.
TheArmo1 1 year ago
@TurkiyeCumhurbaskani As an Armenian man i can say Turks was right.We attacked to turkish people to get independence.Russians and french gave us a lot of guns to do ethnic cleanzing against turks...we killed so many turkish people.Thanks to christian west, they all been to our side...Turks defended themself....We,the Armenians did against the turks Genoside...We are the armenians gulty ones..I am armenian and living in istanbul happily.long live turkey and turkish people..
liefinder 1 year ago
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ERMENI SOYKIRIM. the murderers' successors must answer for their ancestors' crimes, otherwise refuse the heritage you've received!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HaykazBagrat 1 year ago
TURKEY IS THE BEST :)
TheMrSnug 1 year ago
Abdullah "APO" Ocalan says
We can not understand his motives. With one leg he stands on America and the other on Yerevan. Where his loyalty lies is unknown to us. He disseminated the democratic leftist ideological organizations, he was the most influential person in dissolving the leftist movement in Turkey.
Ocalan warned the left leaning Turkish intellectuals not to fall for
Taner's provocation and invited them to unite and collaborate under the roof of a new political party
fkxp 1 year ago
Taner Akcam's views, from an interview published in the Turkish daily, Milliyet. Abdullah Ocalan gave a "rebuttal," appearing in a PKK organ published in Europe (at one time, the PKK was one of the darlings of Turk-bashing Europe, before some countries awakened to the fact that they were cuddling terrorists in their midst.)
Both articles provide marvelous illumination as to the "trustworthy" character of Taner Akcam. In short, would you want this man to be your nurturing "visiting professor"?
fkxp 1 year ago
Terrorist Leader "APO" labels TANER AKCAM a Provocateur, below what APO says
I get to break my silence about Taner Akcam, since he spoke of me the other day, said Abdullah Ocalan, the leader of the PKK who is now serving a life sentence for being the leader of a terrorist group which caused the death of 35,000 people in Eastern Turkey. He now sits alone in a comfortable jail in the island of Imrali, off the coast of Istanbul. 'He almost cussed me' says Abdullah Ocalan about Taner Akcam.
fkxp 1 year ago
Taner Akcam therefore suffers in some genocide circles, regarding his academic credibility. In a battle with the Turkish Historical Society's Prof. Kemal Cicek , Akcam has been characterized as a "village idiot" among some of his peers.
Taner Akcam will forever have the stigma of being a stooge for the Armenians, and such status can never bode well for the integrity and recognition he must crave.
fkxp 1 year ago
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how do you get 1.5 million armenians dead in 1915 when records show there was no more then 950.000 in the whole ottoman empire ?
Taner Akcam is a ex PKK member and a ex party member of the communist party
he A leftist revolutionist who advocated violence and who was imprisoned for terrorist activities, Akcam escaped from jail and later reinvented himself as a
fkxp 1 year ago
2 scholar, focusing on the one-note Armenian "Genocide" as his bread-and-butter. His mentor was Vahakn Dadrian, and the way was mysteriously paved for Akcam to become a perpetual "visiting professor" in the USA.
fkxp 1 year ago
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"We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as ways of escape for the Tartars (Turks), and then proceeded in the work of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village. Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts into heaps of stones and dust, and when the villages became untenable and the inhabitants fled from them into the fields, bullets and bayonets completed the work."
O. Appressian; Memoirs of an Armenian officer, Men are Like That, 1926
celal2 1 year ago
You can"t solve this problem in parliaments, through propagandas, rock groups or Kim Kardashian. Let historians do this. Ask yourselves:
1-Why doesn"t Armenia open its archives?
2-Why needed the Turks to kill the Armenians, in Ottomans weakest period?
They were almost always the Turks, who had power in this region.If they wanted to do it, you coludn"t find any armenian human being, in this region, long time ago
alperselvi 1 year ago
every educated mea in tURKEY recognise GENOCEIDE!!!!!
TheMitoYAN 1 year ago
let us pray for turks and all other nations that are under a delusion. God open their eyes wide and help their lost souls to cleanse from sin their ancestors made. AMМEN âmin !!!
HaykazBagrat 1 year ago
1915 yılında, savaş örtüsü altında, Osmanlı hükümetinin 1,75 hakkında anda) tamamen Türkiye'nin Ermeni nüfusu (sınırdışı karar verdi. Onların planı Suriye ve Mezopotamya (şimdi Irak) çöllerine sürgün dahil. Ermenilerin Yüzbinlerce evlerinden ve ya katledildi ya da sürüldü öldüler kadar kuvvet çölde yürüdü
Avetisahkyans 1 year ago 3
@Avetisahkyans
Ne söylemeye calisiyosun?
Turkcenden bi halt anlasilmiyor??
alperselvi 1 year ago
Türkiye'ye Alman büyükelçisi ev yazdı: "Hükümet gerçekten Ermeni yarış Exterminating hedefine izlemektedir Osmanlı İmparatorluğu '. 1915 ve 1923 tarihi Ermenistan'ın batı kesiminde arasında Ermenilerin boşalttı oldu. Ölüm bilançosu güvenilir bir milyonun üzerinde olduğu tahmin edilmektedir. Olanlar Orta Doğu, Rusya veya USA.EUROPE kaçtı ölmedi
Avetisahkyans 1 year ago 3
Fucking cry babies fuck history growup and get on with your fking lives. Also fuck Taner i piss on his dead mothers grave fking sold out motherfker.
TheFuture2050 1 year ago
I wander how much money has been given to mr. Akcam to make all those LIES ? you armenians ; it is century old propaganda and you playing with fire you are going to burn youself !
TheBoranli 1 year ago 4
Taner Akcam is a dumb cocksucking Marxist Jew Bolshevik who got kicked out from Turkey for being a traitorous scum! Their was no Armenian Holohoax, period!
SSErgenekon1488 1 year ago
Taner Akcam is a Jewish Bolshevik, enough said.
SSErgenekon1488 1 year ago
this guy is the olny good turk . the rest are donkeys child rapist and beheader. in other words wild animals. read history ishak turk.
ndyag1 2 years ago
@ndyag1 the rest of turks DONT BELIEVE the genocide. Cause their families been killed too. ıf you want them believe, tell them, approach wisely. In turkey we ppl dont sit and plan evilness and plan how to deny the things we know happened. No nation is evil. You r just hateful and its the thing which harms armenians: "hate"
You pretend turks r bad and deny is for purpose. If the public believes that, the government have to accept. No public is evil
aslizz 1 year ago
@aslizz
Your country and its people refuse to believe that their ancestors were murderous dogs. Your government spreads propaganda to keep this a popular ideal to uphold some kind of dignity.
Of course there are evil nations. And you will find that the most evil nations are currently the most powerful. The most aggressive life forms are always the leaders, that's how life is. The humble ones lag behind, but often remain virtuous.
vman456 1 year ago
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@aslizz
Your country and its people refuse to believe that their ancestors were murderous dogs. Your government spreads propaganda to keep this a popular ideal to uphold some kind of dignity.
Of course there are evil nations. And you will find that the most evil nations are currently the most powerful. The most aggressive life forms are always the leaders, that's how life is. The humble ones lag behind, but often remain virtuous.
vman456 1 year ago
people like you even can't be compared to animal. disgusting idot!
Pantekin 1 year ago
@ndyag1 your grand parents where nankor, u what nankor is? it's a dog who bites his bosses feeding hand...
djhuso 1 year ago
Armenians havent applied International Law Courts i wonder why??? they belive in the genocide happend but they cant even apply because there it a LIE!! Turkish priminister invited armenian goverment several times to investigate together in front of the world but aremenian goverment does not respond!!! i wonder why???they got no proof its a lie!!! Turks have their archives open to the world and armenians closed to the world!! i wonder why?? dont be scared open it TURKS know its a lie!!!
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
Also, there are clips showing Greek and Armenian Orthodox monks fighting over a claim over territory in a Jerusalem Orthodox Church. You Armenians as well as Greeks are already arguing over claims in an Orthodox cathedral, so how do you think you can unite against Turkish people. I mean you Greeks and Armenians have so much hate in your blood to the point you go against each other, this is how much you guys are united. Think about it, lol.
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
Hey eshol eshak, you still opening your mouth.
Don't you know how to stop this hate and lying habit of yours.
Your race's name "turk" is an insult in the whole world. Nobody needs to describe you. All anybody needs to say is "you turk" and the whole world knows what it means.
Enough geuth-je. Go molest a cobra.
paul130258 2 years ago
Armenians dont have any legal evidence its all propaganda. Denouncing Turkey for carrying out atrocities in 1915 before any such investigation is entirely unacceptable! It is impossible to force us to accept allegations of genocide as a result of behind the scenes lobbying efforts in the parliaments of varios countrys!They can try to force the label in this manner as much as they want we wil not accept it, There can be no such acceptance! Turkish archives are open to the world armenian is closed
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
Do some research about history and the definition of genocide before requesting for recognition. You can't just listen to one side of the history and accept it. Americans tend to accept your story due to the fact that you Armenians have more influence (than Turks) especially through the entertainment industry (e.g. Cher and you guys, forgot your band's name and can't be bothered to look it up). It was the Armenians who started the conflict by joining the ottoman empire's invaders.
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
Your gangs even killed dozens of people in SIVAS,.Weapons enough to outfit an army(and better ones than the Ottoman army used) were captured from them.
There are no "mass graves" in Anatolia.Therefore,a crack team of Armenian researchers dug here up for 2.5 years during the Malta tribunals.They did researches in Ottoman archives too,just to make their enemy look more miserable and hide because they did not obey the 14 points.What did they come up with?Zilch!
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
seriosly this so called genocide number started with 300.000 in 1930's, years passed this number dramaticly increased!!! in 1960's went up to 700.000... 1980's it was 1 million. afta 1990's 1.5 million and now its over 2 million!!!
seriosly if this is not propaganda what is it!!!!!
Please stop the armenian propaganda!!!
armenians are seriosly brainwashed!!!
WAKE UP !!!!!!!
OPEN YOU ARCHIVES ARMENIA
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
It's amusing to see FuLLiTurk's immense stupidity. His ability to debate rarely goes beyond making incredibly vague, racist comments about Armenians and tooting his own horn.
Gunderson002 2 years ago 3
@Gunderson002 He is very logical, but you are lame.
Genchmen 1 year ago
@Genchmen
Yes, because everyone knows that trolls constitute a legit source of information.
...Your logic stinks.
Gunderson002 1 year ago
how is it a lie, when the armenians were on there own land, and were chased off there own land by getting killed in the millions.. my great grandfather was a fench soilder and he wrote everthing about the armenian genocide.
centerbmw 2 years ago 3
"Many massacres were committed by the Armenians until our army arrived in Erzurum... (after General Odesilitze left) 2,127 Muslim bodies were buried in Erzurum's center. These are entirely men. There are ax, bayonet and bullet wounds on the dead bodies. Lungs of the bodies were removed and sharp stakes were struck in the eyes. There are other bodies around the city."
Official telegram of the Third Royal Army Command, addressed to the Supreme Command, March 19, 1918
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
"The Dashnak revolutionary society is working to stir up a situation in which Muslims and Armenians will attack each other, and thus pave the way for Russian intervention "
General Mayewski, Russian Consul General in Bitlis and Van, December 1912; source: Kara Schemsi, Turcs et Armeniens devant l'Histoire, Geneve, Imprimerie Nationale, 1919, p. 11
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
"I killed Muslims by every means possible. Yet it is sometimes a pity to waste bullets for this. The best way is to gather all of these dogs and throw them into wells and then fill the wells with big and heavy stones. as I did. I gathered all of the women, men and children, threw big stones down on top of them. They must never live on this earth."
A. Lalayan, Revolutsionniy Vostok (Revolutionary East) No: 2-3, Moscow, 1936.
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
" All Turkish children also should be killed as they form a danger to the Armenian nation"
Hamparsum Boyaciyan, nicknamed "Murad," a former Ottoman parliamentarian who led Armenian guerilla forces, ravaging Turkish villages behind the lines, 1914. Cited from Mikael Varandian, "History of the Dashnaktsutiun.
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
The so-called "Armenian Genocide" is the BIGGEST LIE in this century!
And the whole world knows this FACT!
Don't danger the TURKISH - AMERICAN FRIENDSHIP
...it would be a loss for the U.S.!
Keep that in mind Mr. Obama:
DON'T DO A BIG MISTAKE!
"As President I would NEVER regognize this Armenian LIE!"
Recognize the Holocaust in Hocali done by the ARMENIANS to the People of AZERBAYCAN!
Armenians = DISHONEST SUBHUMANS!
You canot delete History! You can't deny the TRUTH!
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
The so-called "Armenian Genocide" is the BIGGEST LIE in this century!
And the whole world knows this FACT!
Don't danger the TURKISH - AMERICAN FRIENDSHIP
...it would be a loss for the U.S.!
Keep that in mind Mr. Obama:
DON'T DO A BIG MISTAKE!
"As President I would NEVER regognize this Armenian LIE!"
Recognize the Holocaust in Hocali done by the ARMENIANS to the People of AZERBAYCAN!
Armenians = DISHONEST SUBHUMANS!
You canot delete History! You can't deny the TRUTH!
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
Yes nobody will put the us and turkish relation in danger,only the turks themself,what about the (this an evidense mr evidense) attack of the turkish official on an ambassy employee in abou Dabi.Don't tell me it is a lie,mate attacking people is your trade mark.And the armenian genocide is a fact and the evidense is me descendent of the armenian genocide and that the big evidense,my neighbour is assyrian from Mardin he is telling you that he is an evidense too.
raphael3551 2 years ago
Armenians dont have any legal evidence its all propaganda. Denouncing Turkey for carrying out atrocities in 1915 before any such investigation is entirely unacceptable! It is impossible to force us to accept allegations of genocide as a result of behind the scenes lobbying efforts in the parliaments of varios countrys!They can try to force the label in this manner as much as they want we wil not accept it, There can be no such acceptance! Turkish archives are open to the world armenian is closed
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
"And the whole world knows this FACT!"
If the whole world 'knows this', then why are you being a troll about it?
"Don't danger the TURKISH - AMERICAN FRIENDSHIP
...it would be a loss for the U.S.!"
No, it won't. If Turkey and the US break diplomatic relations, Turkey is going to suffer more. The US is one of Turkey's most crucial allies, but other than the Iraq war, the US doesn't need Turkey.
"Armenians = DISHONEST SUBHUMANS!"
Yet, you criticize Armenians for 'preaching hatred of Turks".
Gunderson002 2 years ago
Mr might have forgot about Hocali, Azerbajcan, 1992 genocide? armenians are the most innicent looking butchers in history. they killed about 600 thousands civilians in east anatolia during ww1. they are so afraid of the fact that the truth would be revailed so they keep their archives closed to the world. they were very proud to say that 150 thousands armenians fought with russians against turks during ww1 in east anatolia at paris congress after the war! wash the blood in your hands first!
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
Everyone, FuLLiTurk is an idiot, pay him no attention. I only argue with him to generate lulz off of his emarrasment.
Gunderson002 2 years ago
"The Dashnaks and Hunchaks have terrorized their own countrymen, they have stirred up the Muslim people with their thefts and insanities, and have paralyzed all efforts made to carry out reforms; all the events that have taken place in Anatolia are the responsibility of the crimes committed by the Armenian revolutionary committees."
Williams, The British vice-consul, writing from Van. (March 4, 1896, British Blue Book, Nr. 8 1896, p.108.)
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
I'm well aware of the atrocities committed by some Armenian nationalists against Muslims, but doesn't disprove there was a genocide.
Gunderson002 2 years ago
armenia was invaded by many nations, including the Asyrians, Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, Arabs, Mongols, Persians, Ottoman Turks and Russians. Turks were the only ones to giv armenians opurtunity to be in goverment, army generals and many high places in the ottoman empire.and you tell me turks comited genocide.. you gota be kiding me!!!! armenians have sided with russians because they promisd armenians their own lands if they helpd the rusians, so behind enemy lines armenian SLAUGHTERD TURKS
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
Although, the Turks didn't treat the Armenians and other Christian and Jewish ethnic groups as poorly as Shariah law would mandate, they allowed very few non-Muslims to serve in the government or the military, unless they converted. Besides, that was BEFORE 1915, so, shut up. Most of the Armenians didn't side with the Russians. Only a few of them did, and even fewer of those massacred Muslim. Gross generalizations don't prove a thing, you know, they just make you look like an idiot.
Gunderson002 2 years ago
"I killed Muslims by every means possible. Yet it is sometimes a pity to waste bullets for this. The best way is to gather all of these dogs and throw them into wells and then fill the wells with big and heavy stones. as I did. I gathered all of the women, men and children, threw big stones down on top of them. They must never live on this earth."
A. Lalayan, Revolutsionniy Vostok (Revolutionary East) No: 2-3, Moscow, 1936.
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
if there was a genocide of 1,5 million then show us where the mass graves are in anatolia??? At least show us 1 mass grave in anatolia with atleast 10 or 20 armenian bodys in it!! please show us but theres none!!! if there was a genocide of 1,5 million there would be armenian boddies pissing out of the soil in anatolia, so seriosly armenians next time make up a better lie...
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
mr SterilKiller gave you enough evidense that a reasonable mind can justify
raphael3551 2 years ago
There are some mass graves of Armenians in Syria and Turkey, but most of the people who died in the genocide were not burried, but left on the side of the road to rot away. Here are some places where there are mass graves:
Deir-el-Zor, Van, Bitlis, Sivas, Diyarbekir, Aleppo, among others.
Gunderson002 2 years ago
its funny when theres so called armenian genocide march there 100's of armenians out there protesting infront of the TURKish embassy around the world.its also really funny when the Turkish goverment invites armenia several time to investigate the issue infron of the world, theres no armenians out there theres,no armenian goverment out there its really funny isn it??armenians cant face the truth!!! They are liers they are betrayers they murderers!! they genocided innocent turks and muslims!
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
The armenian govenment din't kill the muslim but the turkis govenment killed the armenian christian
raphael3551 2 years ago
" All Turkish children also should be killed as they form a danger to the Armenian nation"
Hamparsum Boyaciyan, nicknamed "Murad," a former Ottoman parliamentarian who led Armenian guerilla forces, ravaging Turkish villages behind the lines, 1914. Cited from Mikael Varandian, "History of the Dashnaktsutiun."
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
Taner Akcam is one-sided person.
Genchmen 2 years ago
The Russian documents a Ally of Armenian at the time, reported that Turkish old men in the towns were murderd, cooked and fed tho there wives. A russian Document. The Archives have been open to everyone always at no limitation. The Armenian one, unfortunatly Never. Forged (proven by the INTERNATIONAL courts) documents signed have been put on the Armenian ground of death (I dont remember the name.. Armenians are too heated over a centurty old war but have no idea what the facts are.
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
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@FuLLiTurk you can see the proove in this video Şu an 2 tane turk siktim! Kaştane sikecem sizden! Ya bundan kaç tane olur? 350 -milyon TÜRK . Ben bıktım sizleri sikmekten, ama, siz sikilmekden bıkmıyorsuz, 350 -milyon TÜRK sikecem . neden? Sizi sikmekden medem bulanıyor,.
11zograp 2 years ago
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He is not a turkish. He is half kurd and half armenian,there is no objective comment. He is an enemy of turkey so how can we hear truth information from this guy?
clickso 2 years ago
Armenians are very Evil like jews they have too much control in USA..........Turks didnot kill them in a big number as they claim but they stab Turkish muslims when whole world start killing them during collapse of Ottomon........Pakistanis love Turks and real Genocide is done to Natives of Population done by White Europeans around the world not on the other way around
davidshaz20000 2 years ago
@davidshaz20000 you have no idea what you are talking about what you mean whith evil?????? what is evil????what has pakistani to do with the armenian genocide.I think you are a waste that is all
raphael3551 2 years ago
@davidshaz20000 yes brother you are right, armenians have very rich and strong lobbies around the world they only bribe parliments so they can accept the so called genocide lie...
armenians still have not appied to international law courts because they no that the world will find out that armenians slaughterd innocent muslims in anatolia!!!!
We love pakistani people and their nation!!!
Salaam brother!!!!
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
@FuLLiTurk
"armenians have very rich and strong lobbies around the world they only bribe parliments so they can accept the so called genocide lie..."
Yeah, not like those Turkish lobbyists, the very same ones who have bribed the British and American legislative branches to not recognize the genocide time and time and time again. Nope, like those ones at all.
Wait...
Gunderson002 2 years ago
dont forget what crusades done when they took over the muslim lands, they ask one question convert to christianity or get your head choped off by thier filthuy swords!!!!
search up the crusades in spain when they were slaughtering innocent jeyws and muslims, search up the genocide they have commited..... ottomans got them and brang them to the ottoman lands so they can all live thir religion peacfully...
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
Yes, don't actually respond to what I said, just bring up something completely irrelevent. ;)
Gunderson002 2 years ago
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@FuLLiTurk
"armenians still have not appied to international law courts"
The ICJ already knows that the genocide happened; quote:
"The practice of genocide has occurred throughout human history. The Roman persecution of the Christians, the Turkish massacres of Armenians, the extermination of millions of Jews and Poles by the Nazis are outstanding examples of the crime of genocide."
Now, kindly fuck off and live under a bridge, troll.
Gunderson002 2 years ago
armenians cannot even proove we have a dirty history infact we have the cleanest history in the world and TURKS are ready to proove it!!! armenians still have thier arcives closed to the world!!!! open it so the world can see whos history is dirty!!!!!!
come on open it armenia...!!!
armenia STOP hiding your archives!!!!!
only armenian archives are closed to the world!!!!
armenia you cant keep hiding your archives!!!
Let the world see the TRUTH!!!!
armenia plz open it!!
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
when the Turkish PM offered to look at the archives building a committee of academicians and scholar to the president of armenia and the armenian president refused it.
how come us turks are so confident about their past and armenians are not?
Bribing the parliments and historians to write fictional books about genocide is easier for you armenians than accepting TURKish goverments joint comission offer infront of the world!!!
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
I wonder why dont armenians attack the TURKS now, why are they doing this propaganda to get land and money? i guess they know that our millitary is so powerfull... Unless if 4, 5, 6 or 7 countrys attack us tomorrow at once again, then armenians will declare war against TURKS. Because their dogs! their betrayers! They are murderers!! they wait for the right time to attack. Face us like a man dont be affraid like a girl armenia
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
You know and I know that the United States government isn't about to give Mexico one inch of land and neither is our government going to give Native Americans one inch of land either. The same logic applies to Turkey and they aren't going to give Armenia one inch of their lands. I suggest you take a look at the Lausanne Peace Treaty that took place in July 24, 1923. It is past time for you Armenians to get a life and love your fellow man as your Bible teaches you to do.
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
Armenians are baby killers if you dont beleive me watch this REAL VIDEO!! its called "Genocide of Azeris by Armenians!" please copy and paste thank you
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
You Armenians are some of the world's best con artists to ever live on planet earth. How can you Armenians keep a straight face in creating your U.S. genocide memorial two blocks from my White House in Washington, D.C.? What did the United States have to do with anything in the Ottoman Empire in 1915? The United States was never at war with the Ottoman Empire in1915 — then or ever. The United States was at war with you Armenians as a part of the Soviet Union for many years though.
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
Please STOP deleting Turkish comments, its not fair. please STOP the armenian propaganda! just because armenians cannot answer my questions, you armenians have no right to delete Turkish comments. Dont try to hide the truth like your armenian goverment! Face the truth, i know truth hurts! Shame on propaganda armenia! Shame on armenia! shame on baby killers! shame on you armenia so please STOP deleting Turkish comments and let every one see the truth!
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
@FuLLiTurk you are mixing the exiled armenian and the armenian of armenia for your Knowledge the turkish empire before attaturk was mixture of peaceful people ,kurdes how many kurdes are killing every day??? no idea ??do you???Armenian very smart and artisans,the assyrians,the greeks,the ottoman empire eliminate anything which was not muslim
our ancesters are victim of this decision you don't need to panic that is facts if you don't accept it you are ignorant.
raphael3551 2 years ago
@raphael3551 you are a typical brain washed armenian!!!! if ottomans were destroying anything non muslim then howcome today theres more churches in muslim Turkey thann christian armenia haahahahhahaa you dumb armenian lol
do some research dont make a fool of yourself on here....
how come theres 10's of thousands of greaks armenian assyryans and jews still living their religion in TURKEY???? HAHAHAHAHA its because TURKey is a free country not like armenia... armenia is an aryan state!
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
Yes more empty churches, you know you are an angry person I realise that you all Turks are angry people you should be little pacifist, but that is your trade mark war and killing and you call turkey free country apart Istanbul no place were safe never felt comfortable there I met lots of nice people .and you are writing to somebody never knew Armenia,my grandparent been exiled by your ancestor half of then killed by their own government which is called genocide This fact mr FulliignorantTurk
raphael3551 2 years ago
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@raphael3551 A competent tribunal was set in motion, to find individual Ottomans guilty of massacres. This was the Malta Tribunal. It never went to trial, because for over two years, its administrators could not find evidence for conviction. The archives of several nations were searched, including the archives of the United States, and certainly the archives of the Ottoman Empire, which was under the control of the British occupying Istanbul. Every accused was set free at the end.
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
Yes you are right and Ataturk himself said the extermination of the Armenians was a mistake from the government of that time. Now if the people who were there they are not criminal of course they must set free.You are a very proud Turk but you are not guilty of that genocide, but that does not mean that the massacre has not happened you realise that I am after fact not after bringing you down with all your nonsense .They accused people who had nothing to do with the ardering of extermination
raphael3551 2 years ago
Bullshit
Genchmen 2 years ago
What you mean with bullshit mr Genchmen man .You cannot comment only one word to make a point???For your information yes you are the foundations of ethnic cleansing, you killed the Armenian because they were Christian, and after that you obliged the one who did leave had to change his name to convert etc... And the funny part the name .example mehmed son of Hagop, or Hassan son of Meguerdich what you say about that you one word commentator genchmen man .
raphael3551 2 years ago
Raphael the only thing I can advise you and your kind of people is that DON'T BE FOOLED BY IMPERIALISM OTHERWISE YOU WILL GET LOST IN ITS VORTEX.
Genchmen 2 years ago
Do you understand what means imperialisme?it is a system nothing to do with the armenian extermination and deportation that your ancestors .You don't know what you are talking about mr genchmen man".Will get lost in its vortex" is that a google translater phrase????
raphael3551 2 years ago
I know imperialism, which has been engulfing you by its tentacles. It is using you for more than 200 years.
Genchmen 2 years ago
Armenians havent applied International Law Courts i wonder why??? they belive in the genocide happend but they cant even apply because there it a LIE!! Turkish priminister invited armenian goverment several times to investigate together in front of the world but aremenian goverment does not respond!!! i wonder why???they got no proof its a lie!!! Turks have their archives open to the world and armenians closed to the world!! i wonder why?? dont be scared open it TURKS know its a lie!!!
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
Armenians dont have any legal evidence its all propaganda. Denouncing Turkey for carrying out atrocities in 1915 before any such investigation is entirely unacceptable! It is impossible to force us to accept allegations of genocide as a result of behind the scenes lobbying efforts in the parliaments of varios countrys!They can try to force the label in this manner as much as they want we wil not accept it, There can be no such acceptance! Turkish archives are open to the world armenian is closed
FuLLiTurk 2 years ago
Mr. sleepy head you don't ask yourself where all those Armenian inSYRIA,Greece,Lebanon,iraq,israel,palestine,jordan,egypte,france,italy,england america,australia come from ?
with a diet similar as yours,IShkembecorba,taouk,adapazar kebabi,basterma soujoukimambaildy,?
perhaps those food you can find them in turkey at Mac donald.
WAke up they have the same tradition as you sleepy head , wake up be from this world is that enough evidence ?DEPORTATION is genocide to .sleepy head
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raphael3551 2 years ago