So, in the case of this video, 281 c.i. vs. 350 c.i. is slightly smaller? Or even 351 c.i. vs. 434 c.i.? In each case we see a clear 50 c.i. displacement advantage.
Its really hard to compare 2 different motors with 2 very different setups, and say one of them is pile of crap and praise another, especially If one doesn't even know about its design, its a matter of preference.
This guys WS6 was obliviously racing a 03/04 cobra, probably close to stock but still, and with his cammed LS1 with cutouts, that's damn near close to wide open headers, so your not going to hear that cobra's stock eaton, not going to happen. but I love both of this cars regardless.
@geoleopeo lol, yeah TOO BAD GM DOESN'T BLOW AS HARD AS YOU DO, BOSS. No matter how any1 slices it, a 4.6l just ran with 5.7l. mustang down 1.1l and still got in that ass....EPIC. Retards power comes with RPM's. 4.6 with 320lbft@ 8k rpm will trounce any 5.7 with 370lbft @5.5k rpm. 2'z
Why does everybody keep on mentioning 02 cobras? There is no such thing, ford stopped production that year to prepare for the termi...anyhow I used to own a heads and cam 02 mustang gt and now I own a 02 ws6 on bolt ons and couldn't be happier....GM all day!
@GMisurdaddy All the Stuff you just posted is irrelevant. For the $ spent on getting those cars to those times, i can get a 351w block and stroke it, 3V triton heads, die grinder, welder, bearings, valve springs, sheet metal, and a 4sp. In the future take a look @ an 89-02 Essex engine block and some 89-95 SHO HEADS, GN nightmare. OHC's have more potential, period. Its 2011 and the VETTE just started turnin 7k rpm STOCK. My 95 conti will hold that down all day with just castrol gtx. Facts are f
Ok wait a second! Yes I agree ws6s are badass....but that's not a cobra! 03-04 cobras super chargers whine like crazy!! This has not whine! Its prolly a 99-02 cobra....same body style as an 03 04 cobra...but no supercharger! It a 330hp cobra!
The dude below me is a retard. with RPM comes power. The ohc 3V will ASS RAPE a ls1-2. Why don't chevy boys quit the smack talking already. We all know the truth liter for liter fords smallblocks are the best. Period. You need H/C/I/E on a SBC. bearings/valve springs/intake on a SBF. Any REAL auto enthusiast knows this.
@Speedmccool385bitch I wonder why the fastest Fords in the country go with the old pushrod motors. I seen one modular Ford run a 7 in the quarter, pretty sad. There are LS powered cars running 6's and there are Buick V6's running mid 6's with less displacement, fare less valves and two less cylinders. And lets not get started on the 5 second doorslammer chevys that run gasoline and twin turbos. And you need multiple valves, multiple cams, and a supercharger just to hang with an LS powered car.
cobras are amazing car ....but the ls1 with cam and longtubes will destroy any cobra, which i feel having a cam will make it fair comsidering the cobra needs a supercharger in order to makes its pussy 4.6 dohc any good........love ford but chevy ls1 the greatest small block ever !!!!!!
@SBrandon562 Well lets do the math. 5.7l 346cuin 1 cam 16 valve, - 280cuin 4 cam 32 valve 4.6l + 1.7 liter eaton = 6.3 liter 4 cam 32valve so that's 600 more cc's with 3 more cams turning, and 16 more valves breathing air. An engine considered '' Much more sophisticated. ''
@Andy01Z28 put the LS motors vs what its supposed to be racing...the 5.4 L. or, you could wait till summer for the real test of LS motors, the 5.8 LS Killer will debut then ;)
The 6 year late (Terminator) gets terminated ....Again. Still a bad ass car though and i will buy me one ,but not a girly convertible for 20,000+ dollars fuck that( that's all i can find).
who the hell race's with the t-tops off and windows down.....when going against a termi, hell you'll need all the help you can get....good runs....that t/a sounds great...
I love WS-6's but the fucking haters really make me hate half the owners. I Have a ton of respect for the LS series engines (especially since they dont puke coolant into the oil after 50k like the LT series) but for anyone to not think that little 4.6 4v isnt a nasty engine either has no idea what it is truely capable of or just is to ignorant to believe a engine that size will stock support 700hp all day. either way both nice cars.
@SuRihtanil Ummm...did you not read the description?...The WS-6 had a intake,cam,and full exhaust with dumps. the cobra had catback and a CAI....Lets start with the fact a WS-6 and the cobra are almost the same price and stock and stock a 03-04 cobra ran 12.5-12.7's and stock WS-6's ran 12.7-12.9's stock...so to say it cant hang with a car that has those things and all it would take is a smaller pulley and that would be a much closer race let alone bolt ons such as the firebird.
@SuRihtanil The cobra stock comes with that eaton POS supercharger. I could see if he upgraded to a kenne bell. but this race would have been very ugly for the T/A if that was the case.
@AudiS403 That Eaton gives it about 90hp so that is no POS! Give the Trans Am 90Hp-100hp on wait they did with a cam and couple bolt ons! Face it, even race, and the bigger motor won.
@SuRihtanil I agree at this race the cobra lost. no biggie..but that eaton is a pile of crap compared to the Kenne belle or the whipplechargers that people that want good numbers from that engine use. and apples to apples the cobra didnt have as many mods that would support engine gains. hell the CAI and catback probably didnt give him as much as the WS-6's cam. honestly the cobra would have been better off with a tune and a pulley. a race is a race..all comes down to who modded better.
@AudiS403 Im not bashing on the cobra at all. I love those cars. But... You said the cobra didnt have as many mods that would support engine gains... That part is a very weak argument/excuse for this loss. The cobra has a damn blower. Regardless of what company made it, it still has forced induction while the trans am is still n/a. Had the t/a been blown like the cobra is a blown version of a mustang, and had they both been stock minus the blowers, the t/a would still whip some ass.
@BigL513 but still cobras are pretty bad im a gm man but i respect th cobra m friend actually has a 720 hp kenne bell charged 04 cobra its pretty sick man
Also, my last car with a '94 Trans Am with full bolt ons and my dream car is a 2004 Cobra SVT in Screaming Yellow with a Kenne Belle, Bassani X-pipe with Borla Stingers, and supporting mods.
@Chevyfan011 LMFAO...dude....if you are talking about the Trans Am in the vid, It wouldn't even be a race for me. You will be better off racing stock GT's.
@Chevyfan011 And I mean come on dude, even a non car guy or girl can tell that wasn't a cobra. You just can't be making shit up. Just take your win with a grain of salt. No need to embelish.
I call bullshit on this being a terminator. you can always hear the stock blower whining, ws6s are fast but not that damn fast, and in the vid he says he put intake on the cobra? who the hell puts different intake on a stock supercharged cobra without switching to a turbo or a non twin screw blower??? they dont
@GoFoMoCo good lord really guy? there are plenty of stock head/cam only LS1's making over 400 rwhp. my cam only LT1 makes 37x/37x to the wheels. Is your "cobra" stock? was the ws6 an auto?
@GoFoMoCo it was a stock ws6, 6 speed. and i have a few mods on my car. don't get me wrong, a bolt on ls1 beats my car if it has a good driver, but rarely do you see 03/04 cobras losing to them.
@GoFoMoCo Yeah, though you can make pretty decent power on an LS1 with bolt on's, a cam, and some other goodies, when it comes to potential, they just aren't as good as the Cobra's engine is from the factory. Though with some serious money you could build the LS1 block up and do some pretty impressive stuff. But the Termi's engine is just incredible.
@dodge69874 Exactly, with some serious money you can make anything fast. But with the terminator its ready to go out of the box. You can make 550whp with about $600 worth of mods, pulley, ported blower, and a tune. You never have to touch the internals, only upgrade induction.
@SikassWS6 Or forged internals and other components which make the Termi's so freaking awesome. I believe the stock block on those Cobra's is good for 600 hp without having to worry about damaging anything, but they you can still put out a lot more power on the stock block if you are willing to risk it.
@jcmknl2005 apparently you don't know quote as much as you think you do. Stock cobras superchargers aren't that loud at all. Also no one as taken int'l consideration the ws6 is the lighter of the two cars.
I love both the LS1 Camaros and Firebirds but I also respect any Mustang GT, Cobra, Shelby GT. Any mustang without a V6 really. What you have to take into consideration is that the Mustang hold it's own until they both hit 4th gear. At that point the Stang only has 1 gear left whereas the LS1 has 2.
I am a solid Ford man :-) And i can give TOTAL respect to any WS6 "Nice Setup" And now that you all know im a Ford lover i will tell you this................................. I would take a Z06 over ANY Mustang :-) Sorry Ford, but the Z06 gets my juices flowing.
@iandude454 I disagree, like i said (i love Ford's) i have owned many of them.... But you have to give respect to the Z06. It is a Pure Beast !! Sure, the Ford, and Chevy boys will dispute (Its the American way) but hats off to the Z06 :-)
@iandude454 Im not arguing either lol..... But if you remember my first post, i said i would take a zo6 over any Mustang :-) Nothing was said about the Bad-Ass Ford Gt lol...... Now im back on your side ;-)
@6speedlover haha good man. but like you said, its the american way ford vs chevy and i just happen to be a for fanboy haha. its in my blood. im not going to talk any real trash though because i dont have any fast cars, but my ole '88 lifted ranger is pretty nice haha
@iandude454 I just traded in my 2009 Ranger, for a 2011 Grand Vitara (bought it for wifey) I miss that Ranger :-( It had the 4.0 litre (ran like a raped ape lol) As for the 88 (loved that body style) i bet shes nice... And i dont own fast cars anymore either . The only thing i have that is pretty quick is my 08 ninja. Maybe a new 2012 Mustang 5.0 when im done paying for my daughtrs schooling. What color is your 88 Ranger? And what size lift?
@6speedlover idk the name of the color. its kinda sky blue. idk cuz my dad bought it new in 89 for 13000. and its the xlt with a ncie 2.9 v6 in it. the lift is pretty much stock but just better leaf springs in the back
@edgarc92 lol, i guess in a way, you do have me dead to rights (with me being a Ford Die Hard) If i was a Ford Die Hard, i would not of said that about the zo6 :-) I take back the smelly ass joke.... hey edgarc92, did you see the new 5.0 litre that Evolution created ? I think that bad boy is running 8's now.
@greendayrules11 I am a True Blue Oval Man..... I just love the performance that the zo6 provides :-) I work in a Body Shop that is full of GM boys, and i defend Ford 5 days a week, every week. But to be honest, when GM produces a 5.0 (302 cubic inch) motor like Ford does (its still Ford ALL day long) Im just saying that a stock zo6 is sick, and fast as Fuck!! I do bleed Ford Blue ;-)
@greendayrules11 lol, that is funny as hell !! I have been in a body shop for 20 years now, and the guy i work for now owns 2011 Convert. Camaro ss, (pre-ordered ZL-1) 69 Camaro copo replica, 69 Camaro RS SS, and i just talked him into buying a Ford (its his new flatbed) and he loves it :-) I can tell you all about the bodymen, and what they own but i will run out of spaces lol...
@6speedlover Haha nice. The guy I work for owns a 1969 Chevelle, 1969 El Camino SS (454), and a couple 50's Mercury's. He was going to purchase a 1968 Camaro but then I got him to buy a 1967 Mustang instead. But I think it's awesome you work in a body shop too!
@greendayrules11 C6 zr1 is about all carbon fiber. Any Ferrari Lamborghini or Porsche is going to rip to shreds or catch on fire at even a small speed wreck.
@6speedlover Fuck yeah, but I would choose a 2011 Mustang GT over a Camaro SS. lol, but the Vettes are world class performers, smoking all the big shit racing names out there.
@6speedlover Guess your not a "SOLID" ford guy then. Just a half hearted Ford guy. lol I have mad respect for the z06 as well and like you I would take a z06, but I would run it hard a few times sell it, by a termi and spend the surplus on mods. Just my 2cents.
@97KingCobra You're an idiot dude! Read his description, hell if you had any common sense you wouldn't need to read his description. Heads/cam and bolt on LS1s run low 12s to high 11s with DRs and a good driver. Stock Terminators with simple boltons run mid to low 12s! Period. Learn your shit dude. Those stats alone back him up! LS1s with straight cut outs are loud as hell! I own one! And stock Terminators with the stock Eaton don't make that much noise! I have driven stock Termis!
@Sickassfords It's sad that your piece of shit Ford V8 has to have a supercharger to barely outrun my naturally aspirated Chevy V8 I run 12.9s in my Stock Z28 dude! Stock cobras run mid to high 12s. Therefore I'm right on your ass the whole way! And don't say that winning is winning no matter by how much because the WS6 won here! Not by much but he won, please don't contradict yourself and look like an idiot!
@AdrenalineJunky17 well mr.genius why do all the stock camaros that go to my track only run mid to high 13 with a good driver. Yeah u have a good high compression engine no doubt, but u can only run so much boost thru it stock. theres no way u can go up to five 500 unless u run a turbo thru it, less stress on the block. To reach it on motor alone u have to bore out the block and even put a higher compresion on it with a heavy cam, ls1 wont do it alone with just head and cam.
@Sickassfords The quickest 1/4 for a stock LS1 Camaro 6 speed is a 12.6! Look it up. I ran a 12.9 in mine! And I have personally built and driven 500RWHP LS1 Camaros on stock bottom end and stock bore which are still running the track and still driving with no problems to this day! My friend Josh has a LS with a Maggy supercharger only running 7psi and Has 550RWHP! My friend Daniel has a LS1 5.7 GTO and he has Heads/Cam and Nitrous on stock bottom end and he's running over 600RWHP!
@Sickassfords And the reason the ones your seeing only run 13s is because they are not good drivers(You ford fans pull this all the time when I say I keep up with Terminators so I going to pull it out here!) at all and they are probably running auto trannys which kill horsepower from the crank to the wheels! The only thing done to my car when I ran a 12.9 was a hurst short shifter! Everything else was stock!
@AdrenalineJunky17 then explain to me why did this tran am lost to the cobra in the video.Im guessing u got a long way to keep up with your friends. I like all muscle cars and i know how fast they can be on the right hands wethers its a mustang , camaro or gto. All its takes is a bad tune to blow ur engine also, ur friends must know a real good tuner. the thing that ppl like about the cobras is that u dont have to tear the engine apart to make it faster, just a few bolt ons.
@Sickassfords Because he probably had a small more streetable Heads/cam setup and didn't want to go to far with it! He's probably running somewhere around 400-420RWHP, I'm just saying that it is possible with a good setup to run 500! And also, we do our own tuning! First we do what we want to do, I have HPtuners, we use it to do a base tune and then we drive to Little Rock and we have a friend that owns a shop that has a dyno and he lets us use it, we just pay 100 per car and we have it all day!
@Sickassfords And a bad tune to blow the engine goes with any engine. I have seen Terminators come apart just as many times(if not more) as I have seen LS motors come apart! I have seen way more regular 4.6s(non-forged) come apart than stock internal LSs! And you don't HAVE to tear the motor apart on LS motors either! I have seen stock internal LS engines run 500+RWHP with just a supercharger(Josh which I mentioned earlier)! It's just a choice of what you want to spend your time and money on.
@Sickassfords Btw, to reach 500RWHP with a terminator with just, intake, exhaust and supercharger(stock internals) you would have to run at least 15-17 PSI! I could run 7PSI with a Maggy on my LS1 and run 500 easy! OR I could just buy a really good heads/cam setup with a good exhaust and intake system and some major tuning and still run 500RWHP! Terminators are over rated when it come to comparing potential to potential from the 4.6 to LS series!!
Wow.... You made me cry a little inside on your little 5.4L spill... The GT 500 came with a 5.4 L v8.... Had your choice of a factory Whipple installed with war... The boats need all the power they can get... the 03-04 cobra was in deed one of the best cards put out from a stock standpoint by ford. Its a impressive little machine that makes me melt when i hear it. But as the saying goes No replacement for displacement. Im a ford guy thru and thru, but hats of to LT1/LS1/LS4 etc.
its funny how all these ford guys talk so much smack because ford had to put a supercharger on their cobras to compete with the ls1's. and even after that ive still seen stock ss's beat 03/04 cobras. go up agaisnt a properly tuned supercharged ls1 and then see what the results are like.
@KrazieJ36 When ford made the 03-04 cobra it wasnt made to compete against the LS1.....theres no competition stock 4 stock. So whats the complaint about the new 302?.........no supercharger and guess what, its hitting 12s stock and high 11s with bolt ons........P.S......still no supercharger!!!!!!!!!
03/04 cobras with a cold air intake WITHOUT a tune, is STUPID, i put down 463 rwhp and i have SMOKED ls1's and ls's all day with bolt ons and tunes.
i have beat numberous GT0's, 5.7, and 6.0, and i have beat ws6's, and i weigh about 150 lbs more than a 03/04.
a properly tuned 03/04 cobra with CAI/Exhaust, is a high 11 second car, the ws-6 bone stock runs in the mid to low 13's., there is no way a ws-6 with just bolt ons is running 11's.
Chevy will always prevail over ford always. That 4.6 just cannot do damage even with a turbo or a sc. Now the new 5.0s are a different sotry weenies in the bum bum
why are all you guys shocked to see a t/a beat the cobra? there both nasty american monsters isent winning and losing all the fun of racing other domestics ? theres always someone out there faster just be glad its another v8, cause then youd have all the jap and euro fags on here talking shit and we all know how annoying they are with there nonsense. dont bitch about domestic vs domestic you guys wanna fight with someone do it with all the import fags they dont belong in this country(the cars)
I have both an 01 WS6 and a 03 Cobra. A cammed WS6 will beat a Cobra with minor bolt ons. With a cam, full exhaust, lid, and 3500 stall I'm pulling 11.4 and my pullied Cobra is pulling 11.2. Both are great cars and to bash one or the other is just so funny. Both are the best looking modern day muscle cars and both are the best bang for your buck in performance.
really need to put this gm ford bullshit aside, if you like to drive a cobra... drive a cobra.. if you like to drive a gm (ws6 ls1 w/e) drive that, its about how much one dumbs x amount of money into, if i took a stock cobra and got beat by a ws6 that had 5+ grand into i wouldnt really worry about it...
@MetalRulesRapSux ok how about we just put the new 5.0 in the cobra . all im saying is stock for stock cobra would have pulled. but then again the ws6 aint stock , try puttin some bolt on's the cobra and see what happens
@Amras0407 keep in mind that the S/c only adds +70 hp to its N/a 01 brother. its not a fucking whipple. its a baby eaton. stop trying to over rate a FI vs N/A. 4.6 s/c vs 5.7 n/a is a fair fight
@MetalRulesRapSux How stupid is that? A stock ws6 is stock... well no shit! I've never heard a Mustang guy say "well put a 4.6 on the Trans Am and see who wins." If a Mustang has a supercharger that's because Ford engineers designed a car with better internals than just keep making a car with a bigger and bigger engines. That's having no brains. There is replacement for displacement and its called better engineering.
@trevinboy haha correction there is no replacement for displacement and as for your engineering theory that supercharged 4.6 weighs more and is alot larger than the naturally aspirated 5.7 in the ws6 :) so you get more displacement in a lighter more compact setup.
@yfzfofitty06 bigger engines dont win races these days. we have computers and better technology that works around it. GM's theory only really became true back in the late 60's when things were much simpler.
Naturally aspirated eats supercharged, sad... OH and you ford fags shouldn't even say "WELL HE HAS A CAM DURR" the cobra has a fucking supercharger!!!
@Argedis A cam is a cam, dumb ass, no surprise there, I am a little surprised he didn't beat him by more. So, I guess next time a supercharged 4.6 beats a cammed 5.7 I should say don't bring out the supercharged excuse according to your logic? Dumbfuck. Fail.
i have a stock 03 cobra and raced a 1998 ws6 that had basically the same mods as this one and beat it by a car length- not to sure about this video...
@cbra66 I call bullshit. A built LS1 (like the one in this video) will beat a STOCK 03 cobra any day. Unless you put a shitty driver behind the wheel which is probably why you beat him.
03-04 cobra best mustang ever built IMO hands down. the new gt's are respectable. I dont know why its soo easy for Chevy fans to give credit to the cobra where credit is due yet the cobra fans all seem to think the LS1 is shit. A. the car is lighter B. yes its 5.7L engine compared to 4.6L but the 5.7 is a hell of alot smaller in overall weight and size than that 4.6 not to mention naturally aspirated C. LS1 head/cam bolt ons is a very good force to be wreckoned with. end of story
So, in the case of this video, 281 c.i. vs. 350 c.i. is slightly smaller? Or even 351 c.i. vs. 434 c.i.? In each case we see a clear 50 c.i. displacement advantage.
warlockadin 1 week ago
@warlockadin 4.6L + 1.7L Eaton blower = 6.3L v8 with 16 more valves breathing ,who has the advantage now ?
IDontHateOnCars 5 days ago
@warlockadin That ls1 is actually a 346 cu .in. The 03 cobra motor was a 280 cu. in. 4601 cc's.
IDontHateOnCars 5 days ago
gt, mach1? maybe cobra nahh
ls1vanquish 3 weeks ago
the 7 guys who dislike this video probably drives a civic
491hp 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
Its really hard to compare 2 different motors with 2 very different setups, and say one of them is pile of crap and praise another, especially If one doesn't even know about its design, its a matter of preference.
This guys WS6 was obliviously racing a 03/04 cobra, probably close to stock but still, and with his cammed LS1 with cutouts, that's damn near close to wide open headers, so your not going to hear that cobra's stock eaton, not going to happen. but I love both of this cars regardless.
SSnakeGT127 1 month ago
pulley would make a difference trust me on that lol
josh08336 1 month ago
@geoleopeo lol, yeah TOO BAD GM DOESN'T BLOW AS HARD AS YOU DO, BOSS. No matter how any1 slices it, a 4.6l just ran with 5.7l. mustang down 1.1l and still got in that ass....EPIC. Retards power comes with RPM's. 4.6 with 320lbft@ 8k rpm will trounce any 5.7 with 370lbft @5.5k rpm. 2'z
Speedmccool385bitch 1 month ago
Why does everybody keep on mentioning 02 cobras? There is no such thing, ford stopped production that year to prepare for the termi...anyhow I used to own a heads and cam 02 mustang gt and now I own a 02 ws6 on bolt ons and couldn't be happier....GM all day!
ReDEVILGT 1 month ago
@ReDEVILGT Actually the 2002 Cobra did exist. Sold only in Aussy Land but still...if you dont mind driving on the right...........
warlockadin 3 weeks ago
Not a termi. Nice ws6 though
charged418 1 month ago
@popcorn...i totally agree..not a terminator cobra, that t/a is sweet though
scholardew 2 months ago
Bad ass right there
Nicecardude100 2 months ago
I'm not talking about 1/4miles. I'd love to see a stock s/c lsx 6.2 go toe to toe with a stock s/c 2v 6.2 boss IN A 1 MILE DRAG.
Speedmccool385bitch 3 months ago
@GMisurdaddy All the Stuff you just posted is irrelevant. For the $ spent on getting those cars to those times, i can get a 351w block and stroke it, 3V triton heads, die grinder, welder, bearings, valve springs, sheet metal, and a 4sp. In the future take a look @ an 89-02 Essex engine block and some 89-95 SHO HEADS, GN nightmare. OHC's have more potential, period. Its 2011 and the VETTE just started turnin 7k rpm STOCK. My 95 conti will hold that down all day with just castrol gtx. Facts are f
Speedmccool385bitch 3 months ago
@Speedmccool385bitch fords suck!!!
geoleopeo 1 month ago
Im a mustang guy so I'm not too experienced with the f-bodies. Does WS6 stand for anything?
burninrock24 3 months ago
Ok wait a second! Yes I agree ws6s are badass....but that's not a cobra! 03-04 cobras super chargers whine like crazy!! This has not whine! Its prolly a 99-02 cobra....same body style as an 03 04 cobra...but no supercharger! It a 330hp cobra!
popcorn8199 4 months ago
The dude below me is a retard. with RPM comes power. The ohc 3V will ASS RAPE a ls1-2. Why don't chevy boys quit the smack talking already. We all know the truth liter for liter fords smallblocks are the best. Period. You need H/C/I/E on a SBC. bearings/valve springs/intake on a SBF. Any REAL auto enthusiast knows this.
Speedmccool385bitch 4 months ago
@Speedmccool385bitch I wonder why the fastest Fords in the country go with the old pushrod motors. I seen one modular Ford run a 7 in the quarter, pretty sad. There are LS powered cars running 6's and there are Buick V6's running mid 6's with less displacement, fare less valves and two less cylinders. And lets not get started on the 5 second doorslammer chevys that run gasoline and twin turbos. And you need multiple valves, multiple cams, and a supercharger just to hang with an LS powered car.
GMisurdaddy 3 months ago
@Speedmccool385bitch fords suck almost as hard as you,lol!!!
geoleopeo 1 month ago
cobras are amazing car ....but the ls1 with cam and longtubes will destroy any cobra, which i feel having a cam will make it fair comsidering the cobra needs a supercharger in order to makes its pussy 4.6 dohc any good........love ford but chevy ls1 the greatest small block ever !!!!!!
Andy01Z28 4 months ago 6
@Andy01Z28 I think adding the supercharger is making it even considering the ls1 is a 350 and the 4.6 is a 281.
SBrandon562 1 month ago
@SBrandon562 Well lets do the math. 5.7l 346cuin 1 cam 16 valve, - 280cuin 4 cam 32 valve 4.6l + 1.7 liter eaton = 6.3 liter 4 cam 32valve so that's 600 more cc's with 3 more cams turning, and 16 more valves breathing air. An engine considered '' Much more sophisticated. ''
IDontHateOnCars 1 month ago
@IDontHateOnCars I guess if you look at it that way. I still think it just evens things out a bit.
SBrandon562 1 month ago
@Andy01Z28 put the LS motors vs what its supposed to be racing...the 5.4 L. or, you could wait till summer for the real test of LS motors, the 5.8 LS Killer will debut then ;)
warlockadin 3 weeks ago
@warlockadin That 5.8 liter 351 is gonna kill 376's 427's and 434's ... I don't think so
IDontHateOnCars 2 weeks ago
@IDontHateOnCars thanks for supporting my entire argument. MANDATORY higher displacement to even compete ;)
warlockadin 1 week ago
@warlockadin Slightly smaller engine but it's considered a '' much more sophisticated motor'' The valve train alone makes up for it's displacement.
IDontHateOnCars 1 week ago
The 6 year late (Terminator) gets terminated ....Again. Still a bad ass car though and i will buy me one ,but not a girly convertible for 20,000+ dollars fuck that( that's all i can find).
IDontHateOnCars 5 months ago
its a H/C ls1, why does anyone have a hard time believing this. Even pullied cobras have a hand full.
NewEdge04GT 7 months ago 6
who the hell race's with the t-tops off and windows down.....when going against a termi, hell you'll need all the help you can get....good runs....that t/a sounds great...
flauretta 8 months ago
@flauretta LOL i agree but it looks like that termi needed more help than that T/A
1000chrismc 8 months ago
LOL its funny how the T/A won with its T tops off wow im glade i decided to get a WS6 instead of another mustang
1000chrismc 8 months ago
@model192. We? You going to help him pay for it?
shoppy16 8 months ago
I love WS-6's but the fucking haters really make me hate half the owners. I Have a ton of respect for the LS series engines (especially since they dont puke coolant into the oil after 50k like the LT series) but for anyone to not think that little 4.6 4v isnt a nasty engine either has no idea what it is truely capable of or just is to ignorant to believe a engine that size will stock support 700hp all day. either way both nice cars.
AudiS403 8 months ago
Can't handle a WS6 LS1, bad ass cars period.
SuRihtanil 8 months ago
@SuRihtanil Ummm...did you not read the description?...The WS-6 had a intake,cam,and full exhaust with dumps. the cobra had catback and a CAI....Lets start with the fact a WS-6 and the cobra are almost the same price and stock and stock a 03-04 cobra ran 12.5-12.7's and stock WS-6's ran 12.7-12.9's stock...so to say it cant hang with a car that has those things and all it would take is a smaller pulley and that would be a much closer race let alone bolt ons such as the firebird.
AudiS403 8 months ago
@AudiS403 You forgot door number 2! The Cobra has a supercharger...
SuRihtanil 8 months ago
@SuRihtanil The cobra stock comes with that eaton POS supercharger. I could see if he upgraded to a kenne bell. but this race would have been very ugly for the T/A if that was the case.
AudiS403 8 months ago
@AudiS403 That Eaton gives it about 90hp so that is no POS! Give the Trans Am 90Hp-100hp on wait they did with a cam and couple bolt ons! Face it, even race, and the bigger motor won.
SuRihtanil 8 months ago
@SuRihtanil I agree at this race the cobra lost. no biggie..but that eaton is a pile of crap compared to the Kenne belle or the whipplechargers that people that want good numbers from that engine use. and apples to apples the cobra didnt have as many mods that would support engine gains. hell the CAI and catback probably didnt give him as much as the WS-6's cam. honestly the cobra would have been better off with a tune and a pulley. a race is a race..all comes down to who modded better.
AudiS403 8 months ago
@AudiS403 Im not bashing on the cobra at all. I love those cars. But... You said the cobra didnt have as many mods that would support engine gains... That part is a very weak argument/excuse for this loss. The cobra has a damn blower. Regardless of what company made it, it still has forced induction while the trans am is still n/a. Had the t/a been blown like the cobra is a blown version of a mustang, and had they both been stock minus the blowers, the t/a would still whip some ass.
cstritz 8 months ago
i like how you had the advantage both times and the ws6 just cruised past you like its nothing both times! love mustang owners!
gunny426plymouth 9 months ago
Why don't we just boost the LS1? And then.......?
Model192 9 months ago
set it up kenny bell, and its over for the pontiac.....
BigL513 9 months ago
@BigL513 throw a procharger on the ws6 and its over for the cobra....
illbreakurface 9 months ago
@BigL513 but still cobras are pretty bad im a gm man but i respect th cobra m friend actually has a 720 hp kenne bell charged 04 cobra its pretty sick man
illbreakurface 9 months ago
@illbreakurface nice, yeah you can say i am a fan boy all things fast..
BigL513 9 months ago
Also, my last car with a '94 Trans Am with full bolt ons and my dream car is a 2004 Cobra SVT in Screaming Yellow with a Kenne Belle, Bassani X-pipe with Borla Stingers, and supporting mods.
dodge69874 9 months ago
Two of my favorite cars of all time. I love them both. American muscle FTW!
dodge69874 9 months ago
i would take the cobra over the TA still. better handling and looks! :)
roydied15 10 months ago
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ohh what a pulley would do
blackdawg40 10 months ago
ohh what a pulley would do
blackdawg40 10 months ago
This mustang is not a cobra.no whine from a roots or even hiss from turbo..GT maybe...yes I think so...lol...I would spank that bird.
dj31974 10 months ago
@dj31974 There isnt a mustang u could race me in and beat my trans am.
Chevyfan011 10 months ago
@Chevyfan011 LMFAO...dude....if you are talking about the Trans Am in the vid, It wouldn't even be a race for me. You will be better off racing stock GT's.
dj31974 10 months ago
@Chevyfan011 And I mean come on dude, even a non car guy or girl can tell that wasn't a cobra. You just can't be making shit up. Just take your win with a grain of salt. No need to embelish.
dj31974 10 months ago
I call bullshit on this being a terminator. you can always hear the stock blower whining, ws6s are fast but not that damn fast, and in the vid he says he put intake on the cobra? who the hell puts different intake on a stock supercharged cobra without switching to a turbo or a non twin screw blower??? they dont
GoFoMoCo 10 months ago
@GoFoMoCo by intake he most likely means cold air. have you ever talked cars before come on.
and yes a cam only ls1 destroys terminators. i'm not suprised you can't hear the blower over the open cutout ls1
willymywonka 10 months ago
@willymywonka A cammed ls1 does not destroy terminators. My 01 cobra was dead even with a 01 ws6 0-140. A cam does not make up for a blower.
GoFoMoCo 10 months ago
@GoFoMoCo good lord really guy? there are plenty of stock head/cam only LS1's making over 400 rwhp. my cam only LT1 makes 37x/37x to the wheels. Is your "cobra" stock? was the ws6 an auto?
willymywonka 10 months ago
@GoFoMoCo it was a stock ws6, 6 speed. and i have a few mods on my car. don't get me wrong, a bolt on ls1 beats my car if it has a good driver, but rarely do you see 03/04 cobras losing to them.
GoFoMoCo 10 months ago
@GoFoMoCo Yeah, though you can make pretty decent power on an LS1 with bolt on's, a cam, and some other goodies, when it comes to potential, they just aren't as good as the Cobra's engine is from the factory. Though with some serious money you could build the LS1 block up and do some pretty impressive stuff. But the Termi's engine is just incredible.
dodge69874 9 months ago
@dodge69874 Exactly, with some serious money you can make anything fast. But with the terminator its ready to go out of the box. You can make 550whp with about $600 worth of mods, pulley, ported blower, and a tune. You never have to touch the internals, only upgrade induction.
GoFoMoCo 9 months ago
@GoFoMoCo Your 01 Cobra is not a 'terminator' :) Just sayin'. 01 Cobras never came with blowers :)
SikassWS6 9 months ago
@SikassWS6 Or forged internals and other components which make the Termi's so freaking awesome. I believe the stock block on those Cobra's is good for 600 hp without having to worry about damaging anything, but they you can still put out a lot more power on the stock block if you are willing to risk it.
dodge69874 9 months ago
No blower on that car
spdfrk80 11 months ago
sorry not a cobra, didnt hear any whine at all not even faintly so im callin bs, also description says 03 cobra and title says 04, another sign of bs
jcmknl2005 11 months ago
@jcmknl2005 apparently you don't know quote as much as you think you do. Stock cobras superchargers aren't that loud at all. Also no one as taken int'l consideration the ws6 is the lighter of the two cars.
yfzfofitty06 11 months ago
SVT.. period
SVTcoachofTHEyear 11 months ago
I love both the LS1 Camaros and Firebirds but I also respect any Mustang GT, Cobra, Shelby GT. Any mustang without a V6 really. What you have to take into consideration is that the Mustang hold it's own until they both hit 4th gear. At that point the Stang only has 1 gear left whereas the LS1 has 2.
Enormousbison 11 months ago
get a pulley on that thing then run again
dgilb1986 11 months ago
cobra actually held its ground pretty good.I mean shit hes racing a cammed ws6
jerseyman1000 11 months ago
I am a solid Ford man :-) And i can give TOTAL respect to any WS6 "Nice Setup" And now that you all know im a Ford lover i will tell you this................................. I would take a Z06 over ANY Mustang :-) Sorry Ford, but the Z06 gets my juices flowing.
6speedlover 1 year ago 13
@6speedlover git-r-dun buddy thats right chevy all day
madguy1010 11 months ago
@6speedlover a solid ford man would never get a chevy. at least thats the way it is in my book. thumbs up if you agree
iandude454 8 months ago
@iandude454 I disagree, like i said (i love Ford's) i have owned many of them.... But you have to give respect to the Z06. It is a Pure Beast !! Sure, the Ford, and Chevy boys will dispute (Its the American way) but hats off to the Z06 :-)
6speedlover 8 months ago
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iandude454 8 months ago
@6speedlover im not going to argue haha just saying but i say hats off to the ford gt. they have a tendency of walking on c6 z06's lol
iandude454 8 months ago
@iandude454 Im not arguing either lol..... But if you remember my first post, i said i would take a zo6 over any Mustang :-) Nothing was said about the Bad-Ass Ford Gt lol...... Now im back on your side ;-)
6speedlover 8 months ago
@6speedlover haha good man. but like you said, its the american way ford vs chevy and i just happen to be a for fanboy haha. its in my blood. im not going to talk any real trash though because i dont have any fast cars, but my ole '88 lifted ranger is pretty nice haha
iandude454 8 months ago
@iandude454 I just traded in my 2009 Ranger, for a 2011 Grand Vitara (bought it for wifey) I miss that Ranger :-( It had the 4.0 litre (ran like a raped ape lol) As for the 88 (loved that body style) i bet shes nice... And i dont own fast cars anymore either . The only thing i have that is pretty quick is my 08 ninja. Maybe a new 2012 Mustang 5.0 when im done paying for my daughtrs schooling. What color is your 88 Ranger? And what size lift?
6speedlover 8 months ago
@6speedlover idk the name of the color. its kinda sky blue. idk cuz my dad bought it new in 89 for 13000. and its the xlt with a ncie 2.9 v6 in it. the lift is pretty much stock but just better leaf springs in the back
iandude454 8 months ago
@6speedlover Ford man my ass
edgarc92 8 months ago
@edgarc92 Lets leave your smelly ass out of this :-) ty
6speedlover 8 months ago
@6speedlover NO!
edgarc92 8 months ago
@edgarc92 lol, i guess in a way, you do have me dead to rights (with me being a Ford Die Hard) If i was a Ford Die Hard, i would not of said that about the zo6 :-) I take back the smelly ass joke.... hey edgarc92, did you see the new 5.0 litre that Evolution created ? I think that bad boy is running 8's now.
6speedlover 8 months ago
@6speedlover oh yea im always following up with fords every move :D
edgarc92 8 months ago
@6speedlover No true Ford man would own a plastic bottle Corvette.
greendayrules11 8 months ago
@greendayrules11 I am a True Blue Oval Man..... I just love the performance that the zo6 provides :-) I work in a Body Shop that is full of GM boys, and i defend Ford 5 days a week, every week. But to be honest, when GM produces a 5.0 (302 cubic inch) motor like Ford does (its still Ford ALL day long) Im just saying that a stock zo6 is sick, and fast as Fuck!! I do bleed Ford Blue ;-)
6speedlover 7 months ago
@6speedlover Haha I fight for Ford in an Auto Body shop as well! Thats awesome
greendayrules11 7 months ago
@greendayrules11 lol, that is funny as hell !! I have been in a body shop for 20 years now, and the guy i work for now owns 2011 Convert. Camaro ss, (pre-ordered ZL-1) 69 Camaro copo replica, 69 Camaro RS SS, and i just talked him into buying a Ford (its his new flatbed) and he loves it :-) I can tell you all about the bodymen, and what they own but i will run out of spaces lol...
6speedlover 7 months ago
@6speedlover Haha nice. The guy I work for owns a 1969 Chevelle, 1969 El Camino SS (454), and a couple 50's Mercury's. He was going to purchase a 1968 Camaro but then I got him to buy a 1967 Mustang instead. But I think it's awesome you work in a body shop too!
greendayrules11 7 months ago
@greendayrules11 C6 zr1 is about all carbon fiber. Any Ferrari Lamborghini or Porsche is going to rip to shreds or catch on fire at even a small speed wreck.
IDontHateOnCars 5 months ago
@6speedlover Fuck yeah, but I would choose a 2011 Mustang GT over a Camaro SS. lol, but the Vettes are world class performers, smoking all the big shit racing names out there.
ZR1Terror 6 months ago
@6speedlover Guess your not a "SOLID" ford guy then. Just a half hearted Ford guy. lol I have mad respect for the z06 as well and like you I would take a z06, but I would run it hard a few times sell it, by a termi and spend the surplus on mods. Just my 2cents.
brianjdike83 6 months ago
@brianjdike83 And i respect your 2 cents ;-)
6speedlover 6 months ago
@6speedlover This is the difference between a solid Ford man and a not so solid Ford man
brianjdike83 6 months ago
And he smoked you with the T-tops off...styling baby.
Quatermain98526 1 year ago
Typical boosted ford getting broke off by an all motor chevy.
xX12amanXx 1 year ago
Typical boosted ford getting broke off by an all motor chevy.
xX12amanXx 1 year ago
dude for real my bullit has 480 stock and done 11 flat on quarter mile ls aint got shit on a mustang
102Shala 1 year ago
@102Shala laugh my ass off ..
reeperz28 1 year ago
dude who gives a hell wat you got really i love mustangs but you race to race, you get smoked then who cares!..........untill u get caught later ha!
MrJsanchez08 1 year ago
Sorry but thats no 03/04 Cobra Termie your racing...no supercharger whine.
That whine can be heard very easily.
Your fooling no one.
97KingCobra 1 year ago
@97KingCobra You're an idiot dude! Read his description, hell if you had any common sense you wouldn't need to read his description. Heads/cam and bolt on LS1s run low 12s to high 11s with DRs and a good driver. Stock Terminators with simple boltons run mid to low 12s! Period. Learn your shit dude. Those stats alone back him up! LS1s with straight cut outs are loud as hell! I own one! And stock Terminators with the stock Eaton don't make that much noise! I have driven stock Termis!
AdrenalineJunky17 1 year ago
this is sad a cammed out ws6 barely beating a cobra with little mods.
Sickassfords 1 year ago
@Sickassfords It's sad that your piece of shit Ford V8 has to have a supercharger to barely outrun my naturally aspirated Chevy V8 I run 12.9s in my Stock Z28 dude! Stock cobras run mid to high 12s. Therefore I'm right on your ass the whole way! And don't say that winning is winning no matter by how much because the WS6 won here! Not by much but he won, please don't contradict yourself and look like an idiot!
AdrenalineJunky17 1 year ago
@AdrenalineJunky17 well mr.genius why do all the stock camaros that go to my track only run mid to high 13 with a good driver. Yeah u have a good high compression engine no doubt, but u can only run so much boost thru it stock. theres no way u can go up to five 500 unless u run a turbo thru it, less stress on the block. To reach it on motor alone u have to bore out the block and even put a higher compresion on it with a heavy cam, ls1 wont do it alone with just head and cam.
Sickassfords 1 year ago
@Sickassfords The quickest 1/4 for a stock LS1 Camaro 6 speed is a 12.6! Look it up. I ran a 12.9 in mine! And I have personally built and driven 500RWHP LS1 Camaros on stock bottom end and stock bore which are still running the track and still driving with no problems to this day! My friend Josh has a LS with a Maggy supercharger only running 7psi and Has 550RWHP! My friend Daniel has a LS1 5.7 GTO and he has Heads/Cam and Nitrous on stock bottom end and he's running over 600RWHP!
AdrenalineJunky17 1 year ago
@Sickassfords And the reason the ones your seeing only run 13s is because they are not good drivers(You ford fans pull this all the time when I say I keep up with Terminators so I going to pull it out here!) at all and they are probably running auto trannys which kill horsepower from the crank to the wheels! The only thing done to my car when I ran a 12.9 was a hurst short shifter! Everything else was stock!
AdrenalineJunky17 1 year ago
@AdrenalineJunky17 then explain to me why did this tran am lost to the cobra in the video.Im guessing u got a long way to keep up with your friends. I like all muscle cars and i know how fast they can be on the right hands wethers its a mustang , camaro or gto. All its takes is a bad tune to blow ur engine also, ur friends must know a real good tuner. the thing that ppl like about the cobras is that u dont have to tear the engine apart to make it faster, just a few bolt ons.
Sickassfords 1 year ago
@Sickassfords Because he probably had a small more streetable Heads/cam setup and didn't want to go to far with it! He's probably running somewhere around 400-420RWHP, I'm just saying that it is possible with a good setup to run 500! And also, we do our own tuning! First we do what we want to do, I have HPtuners, we use it to do a base tune and then we drive to Little Rock and we have a friend that owns a shop that has a dyno and he lets us use it, we just pay 100 per car and we have it all day!
AdrenalineJunky17 1 year ago
@Sickassfords And a bad tune to blow the engine goes with any engine. I have seen Terminators come apart just as many times(if not more) as I have seen LS motors come apart! I have seen way more regular 4.6s(non-forged) come apart than stock internal LSs! And you don't HAVE to tear the motor apart on LS motors either! I have seen stock internal LS engines run 500+RWHP with just a supercharger(Josh which I mentioned earlier)! It's just a choice of what you want to spend your time and money on.
AdrenalineJunky17 1 year ago
@Sickassfords Btw, to reach 500RWHP with a terminator with just, intake, exhaust and supercharger(stock internals) you would have to run at least 15-17 PSI! I could run 7PSI with a Maggy on my LS1 and run 500 easy! OR I could just buy a really good heads/cam setup with a good exhaust and intake system and some major tuning and still run 500RWHP! Terminators are over rated when it come to comparing potential to potential from the 4.6 to LS series!!
AdrenalineJunky17 1 year ago
That is not a cobra...
X2Kaotic4u 1 year ago
i love the sounds of the first pull!
drummaboi93 1 year ago
Where is the supercharger at on the Cobra?!?! EVERY cobra has a whine coming from the supercharger!
83Dieselranger 1 year ago
@83Dieselranger only 03-04 cobras came stock with superchargers that give it the distinct whine
TheJared966 1 year ago
@83Dieselranger Not every "cobra" genius! Only the Terminator Cobras ranging from 03-04! 02 down are not supercharged from the factory!
AdrenalineJunky17 1 year ago
why dont i hear the whine from the cobra maybe its not an 03-04 s/c so if not then thats not that good for the gm boys lol!
SHTINONCHEVY 1 year ago
Wow.... You made me cry a little inside on your little 5.4L spill... The GT 500 came with a 5.4 L v8.... Had your choice of a factory Whipple installed with war... The boats need all the power they can get... the 03-04 cobra was in deed one of the best cards put out from a stock standpoint by ford. Its a impressive little machine that makes me melt when i hear it. But as the saying goes No replacement for displacement. Im a ford guy thru and thru, but hats of to LT1/LS1/LS4 etc.
voradeaur 1 year ago
its funny how all these ford guys talk so much smack because ford had to put a supercharger on their cobras to compete with the ls1's. and even after that ive still seen stock ss's beat 03/04 cobras. go up agaisnt a properly tuned supercharged ls1 and then see what the results are like.
KrazieJ36 1 year ago
@KrazieJ36 When ford made the 03-04 cobra it wasnt made to compete against the LS1.....theres no competition stock 4 stock. So whats the complaint about the new 302?.........no supercharger and guess what, its hitting 12s stock and high 11s with bolt ons........P.S......still no supercharger!!!!!!!!!
mistress313 1 year ago
03/04 cobras with a cold air intake WITHOUT a tune, is STUPID, i put down 463 rwhp and i have SMOKED ls1's and ls's all day with bolt ons and tunes.
i have beat numberous GT0's, 5.7, and 6.0, and i have beat ws6's, and i weigh about 150 lbs more than a 03/04.
a properly tuned 03/04 cobra with CAI/Exhaust, is a high 11 second car, the ws-6 bone stock runs in the mid to low 13's., there is no way a ws-6 with just bolt ons is running 11's.
this is all factual information by the way.
killakdc5 1 year ago
That ls1 took a dookie on that stang XD
jerste3360 1 year ago
who the hell races a cobra thats not even pullied?
mazda6tuner99 1 year ago
lol, supercharge that ford bitches!
transamguy78 1 year ago
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shit i would take either one, that WS6 does souf\d tough tho
JLEmery524 1 year ago
shit i would love to have either one lol the ws6 does sound tough tho
JLEmery524 1 year ago
i couldnt hear the SC on the corba? was he even boosted?
Xxholman 1 year ago
Thumbs up if the LS1 is the best sounding motor under $50,000
cmigneco 1 year ago
ws6 is heavier and not supercharged asshole. cobra is light and superchargered and still loses. thats pretty sad dumbass.
MetalRulesRapSux 1 year ago
@MetalRulesRapSux HAHAHA wow, cobras way more than an f body
embarqdo 1 year ago
Goddamn that WS6 moves!
lovesara850 1 year ago
You just got your Ford salad tossed with the tops off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RSXYYY 1 year ago
my bolt on ls1 car spanked terminators with full exhaust all day
01WS6ICK 1 year ago
Chevy will always prevail over ford always. That 4.6 just cannot do damage even with a turbo or a sc. Now the new 5.0s are a different sotry weenies in the bum bum
durka111 1 year ago
yea, The war is between American vs Imports... Not American vs American :D
And yes both cars are nice! I pick the Cobra every time tho :)
DanceVanMitchel 1 year ago
why are all you guys shocked to see a t/a beat the cobra? there both nasty american monsters isent winning and losing all the fun of racing other domestics ? theres always someone out there faster just be glad its another v8, cause then youd have all the jap and euro fags on here talking shit and we all know how annoying they are with there nonsense. dont bitch about domestic vs domestic you guys wanna fight with someone do it with all the import fags they dont belong in this country(the cars)
DIMEBAGJIMMY426 1 year ago
I have both an 01 WS6 and a 03 Cobra. A cammed WS6 will beat a Cobra with minor bolt ons. With a cam, full exhaust, lid, and 3500 stall I'm pulling 11.4 and my pullied Cobra is pulling 11.2. Both are great cars and to bash one or the other is just so funny. Both are the best looking modern day muscle cars and both are the best bang for your buck in performance.
redefinedz28 1 year ago
GM > Ford
NoRotorNoMotor114 1 year ago
why is there no supercharger whine?
firechicken76 1 year ago
ls1's are load, id rather here the sound of the supercharger
mazda6tuner99 1 year ago
really need to put this gm ford bullshit aside, if you like to drive a cobra... drive a cobra.. if you like to drive a gm (ws6 ls1 w/e) drive that, its about how much one dumbs x amount of money into, if i took a stock cobra and got beat by a ws6 that had 5+ grand into i wouldnt really worry about it...
ninjameana70 1 year ago
wow a cammed ws6 beat a stock cobra.
raptorking1465 1 year ago
@raptorking1465 well if a ws6 had a blower, it would have totally eaten that cobra. im sorry ford needs a blower to beat an fbody :)
MetalRulesRapSux 1 year ago
@MetalRulesRapSux lol lil 4.6 with rape a ls1
raptorking1465 1 year ago
@MetalRulesRapSux but did the ws6 come with a blower stock ? nope . that will be like sayin a race car vs a stock ass car
raptorking1465 1 year ago
@raptorking1465 no that would be like more fair because the cobra has a supercharger...and still doesnt win lol thats a fucking joke.
MetalRulesRapSux 1 year ago
@MetalRulesRapSux ok how about we just put the new 5.0 in the cobra . all im saying is stock for stock cobra would have pulled. but then again the ws6 aint stock , try puttin some bolt on's the cobra and see what happens
raptorking1465 1 year ago
@raptorking1465 a stock ws6 is stock haha. a cobra has a SUPERCHARGER and even if it wins its not by much, pal.
MetalRulesRapSux 1 year ago
@MetalRulesRapSux i cant help it ford knows how to make shit way better then gm. cobra is stock with the "SUPERCHARGER".
raptorking1465 1 year ago
@raptorking1465 It's stock with a supercharger and still lost to the naturally aspirated trans am.
Amras0407 1 year ago
@Amras0407 keep in mind that the S/c only adds +70 hp to its N/a 01 brother. its not a fucking whipple. its a baby eaton. stop trying to over rate a FI vs N/A. 4.6 s/c vs 5.7 n/a is a fair fight
Sforschondetta 1 year ago
@MetalRulesRapSux How stupid is that? A stock ws6 is stock... well no shit! I've never heard a Mustang guy say "well put a 4.6 on the Trans Am and see who wins." If a Mustang has a supercharger that's because Ford engineers designed a car with better internals than just keep making a car with a bigger and bigger engines. That's having no brains. There is replacement for displacement and its called better engineering.
trevinboy 1 year ago
@trevinboy haha correction there is no replacement for displacement and as for your engineering theory that supercharged 4.6 weighs more and is alot larger than the naturally aspirated 5.7 in the ws6 :) so you get more displacement in a lighter more compact setup.
yfzfofitty06 1 year ago
@yfzfofitty06 bigger engines dont win races these days. we have computers and better technology that works around it. GM's theory only really became true back in the late 60's when things were much simpler.
Sforschondetta 1 year ago
im a mustang guy, but thats one badass ws6.
Mazen189 1 year ago
Naturally aspirated eats supercharged, sad... OH and you ford fags shouldn't even say "WELL HE HAS A CAM DURR" the cobra has a fucking supercharger!!!
Argedis 1 year ago
@Argedis A cam is a cam, dumb ass, no surprise there, I am a little surprised he didn't beat him by more. So, I guess next time a supercharged 4.6 beats a cammed 5.7 I should say don't bring out the supercharged excuse according to your logic? Dumbfuck. Fail.
trevinboy 1 year ago
@trevinboy YUMADBRO!? Actually its pretty FAIL when ford guys get excited when forced induction beats N/A lololol l2p nub gglawl l2sk33t nao
Argedis 1 year ago
i have a stock 03 cobra and raced a 1998 ws6 that had basically the same mods as this one and beat it by a car length- not to sure about this video...
cbra66 1 year ago
@cbra66 I call bullshit. A built LS1 (like the one in this video) will beat a STOCK 03 cobra any day. Unless you put a shitty driver behind the wheel which is probably why you beat him.
mcdoogle6969 1 year ago
@mcdoogle6969 of course a built ls1 is going to beat a stock 03 cobra....
ninjameana70 1 year ago
That can't be a terminator. Unless you took off the supercharger (which would explain the lack of the whine), it's an 01.
Metrionix 1 year ago
not even ported eaton or pulleys, wow, come on
mazda6tuner99 1 year ago
03-04 cobra best mustang ever built IMO hands down. the new gt's are respectable. I dont know why its soo easy for Chevy fans to give credit to the cobra where credit is due yet the cobra fans all seem to think the LS1 is shit. A. the car is lighter B. yes its 5.7L engine compared to 4.6L but the 5.7 is a hell of alot smaller in overall weight and size than that 4.6 not to mention naturally aspirated C. LS1 head/cam bolt ons is a very good force to be wreckoned with. end of story
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