(2) writing anything about the jews living there. Oh, and trust me, I have nothing to fear from the jewish in Argentina, most of them are peaceful n rational people with no hyper-fanatical views on this or that author. So I suggest you to read the critics of an increasing number of israeli academics questioning the accuracy of him and the convenience of keeping his works inside the schools curricula. Googling 'Sidra Ezrahi' and 'Hanna Yablonka' would be good to start. Good luck.
What do you mean "of course imaginary". Are you denying that the guards in AWSHWITZ rape the Jew prisoners? Are you denying that 6 million Jews were killed as well? Is this something you learned from your Nazi grandfather? Try telling that to the Argentinean Jew. (I still think you are a chicken for hiding under nickname and not publishing your name and address, if you weren’t a mouse you would stand behind your “believes”)
(2) I guess you and Ahmadinejad have a lot in common. You both criticize Israel politics, and you are both “scholars” that deals with Holocaust denial.
Regarding your claims on Israelis arousing from KZ books. Again you are too stupid to understand that they are talking about Stalags and not KZ books. 'Hanna Yablonka' is an Israeli historian and scholar of the Holocaust I don’t understand your point (if any).
@dorbarber *yawn* (bored) (1) I realise it's very difficulty 4 u to pay attention to a single topic at once. Yet the movie is about the stalags, the man at 45 min is referring to KZ's book, so you are the stupid one, or you just lie. And since u mention the Holocaust, let me quote Hanna Yablonka, who said that “the Holocaust was bad enough, without making things up”, in a paragraph about the book "Doll's House" (article in Jerusalem Journal, sept. 6, 2007). And, as said before, she is
I can assure you that there is no such movement against KZ (as premshy try to tell you).
In some sense I really happy that you wrote what you wrote since most of the people that watching this clip are Jews and you gave them a good lesson about how the modern anti Semitic person think – so thank you.
@dorbarber (2) not the only academic who rejects K-Z's fiction as real (as the iranian one is not the only head of state who criticises some of Israel's policies). In short, I only can give you my best advice: you shouldn't be so touchy about fictional work, if you are interested in Holocaust history you better study true testimonies and serious research. I´m afraid K Tzetnik is not the best source.
You are hidden the main issue with irrelevant half true and lies. Watching one movie that deals with the Holocaust doesn’t make you an expert historian about the Holocaust. There are literally tens of thousands historians which believe that sexual exploitation was very common in block 24 at Auschwitz. (google “block 24” & “Auschwitz” will do the trick). A letter was found which Heinrich Himmler himself
(your hero) wrote claims that a sexually fulfilled prisoner is an effective prisoner. The question that the historian deals with is whether the Germans themselves raped the girls or just let the Kapos (non German guards) rape the girls as a reward. By taking this debate and turning it into a Holocaust denial issue you are acting exactly as you Iranian boyfriend.
Another important face that you failed to include in your opinion is that KZ wrote 11 books. Each of those book received world wide exposure and recognitions. He considered as one of the leading authors of the Holocaust. Not only that you are talking just about his second book “The House of Dolls”. You are talking about a single critic of him. For any quote you give of his critic I can give hundreds of good reviews about this book.
Another important face that you failed to write is that KZ is a holocaust survivor from Auschwitz. And calling him ridiculous clown is extremely insensitive to any Jew who read this thing. I know you don’t understand my last sentence but it just show what a great Holocaust expert you are.
Not only that you choose to make fun on this poor man you also do it on the background of his testimony in Adolf Eichmann trail clip. This trail was curved in the collective memory of the Israeli people. His testimony and his collapse symbolize the horrors that the Auschwitz survivors suffered which until that point people did not speak about that.
Another important fact is that no man EVER had the presumptuousness and the insensitivity to call his books pornography not even his greatest critics. (Maybe except Ahmadinejad).
Regarding the “fanatical views” you talking about. Try to imagine that your people were genocide by the millions and than someone called the author who describes this genocide a pornographer. You must be extremely stupid not to understand that.
As always “Hail Hitler” and send my regards to grandfather.
Banned!! – You stupid man. It is mandatory literature reading in order to graduate high school in Israel. Your ignorance amazes me. The movie deals with only one of his books of K. Tzetnik. K. Tzetnik wrote another 9 books and considered to be the leading author of the Holocaust.
I really don’t understand why you call K. Tzetnik a pornographer. Are you getting sexually aroused by reading about 11 year old girl been rape by Ukraine Guard in the concentration camp while her mother is watching crying and screaming? You sick sick man. You should get help!!!!
@dorbarber (1) OMG this writer was even more pervert than I imagined!! The (of course imaginary) rape scenario u are describing does not turn me on, but actually K-Z's literature is arousing in the view of some israeli ppl (see 'Stalags', at around 45:00 minutes, where a man, who seems to be a writer, clearly states it). Anyway, thanks for your warning, it's another reason for not reading his BS. On the google data: oh yes, I've typed a lot of my opinions on Israel's policies, but I don't rmembr
Regarding what you said about your ancestors. I Google your name and saw what you wrote about the Jews in Israel. Are you sure that your grandfather is not one of the SS officers which escape from Europe to Argentina after WW2. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is.
anyway, He is very appreciated throughout the world. His style is poetic, its hard to imgaine pornography in that specific style, eventhough i'm not sure the text you are refering too.
The video here, howevert, is one of the srongest, most well-known videos from that generation. It is chilling, if you understand what he is saying.
It is hard to believe, I know, he sounds surreal, but for us it is hard to hear.
K. Tzetnik describes the most horrific crime ever committed and Chorisaurio called it pornography.
K. Tzetnik testifies in a trail about the horrors he saw in the AWSHWITZ. He collapses from the emotional stress and Chorisaurio called him a ridiculous clown.
Chorisaurio clearly is a sick individual. No need to try and educate him.
exploitation publishings (i.e. Stalags) so thanks, but i'll decline your suggestion, I have no interest (nor time either) in reading such kind of garbage. It's a shame that your studies in Physics (if true?) don't help you develop any critical thinking about this author, or overcome the insane grudge you show against people with european descent (btw my ancestors didn't harmed anybody, at least those who lived in the XX century) lest you have a special interest in promoting the strange work this
What do 'neo-nazi' has to do with this? Are you one of them? Second, it's obvious you didn't see the movie Stalags, all his claims are completely debunked by JEWISH israeli people & historians. So try to THINK and LEARN a bit before you use your computer for spread your hate & frustration - oh, wait a minute, that's too much 4 u, I see...
I did saw the movie. The movie claims that when Ka-Tzetnik described the rape of young woman and children by Nazi guards in Auschwitz he triggered an erotic context for some of his readers by doing so he destroyed some of his massage. I strongly recommend you to read his books before you replay.
By the way, no Israeli will ever debunk the horrors in the concentration camps so I recommend you to see the movie again. Also no historians was interviewed for this movie only other Authors. After you will understand what kind of horrors my ancestors suffered from your ancestors (I assume you are European) you will not allow yourself to make fun of this man. Regarding your remark on “thinking and learing”, I hold a PHD in physics.
@dorbarber I'm afraid ur wrong again. In the movie (I still doubt u saw it) Na'ama Shik is interviewed; in fact she is summa cum laude M.A. in modern history from Tel Aviv University, and currently working at the International School for Holocaust Studies at Yad Vashem, Jerusalem. K. Tzetnik work is also considerred by modern israeli critics as pornographic fiction (source: wikipedia); and in the film professor Dan Miron states KZ was something like 'the one who opened the door' for further
You are so stupid for saying such a hurtful thing about this man who suffers more than you can even imagine in his life by anti-Semitic people like you. If you read his books you will understand that no man have the right to criticize him. I don’t know who you are or what your deal is but I really hope that you say this thing because you are a young child and not neo-Nazi
מצמרר
FrerardBigFan 2 months ago
איזה אדם
eshshual 3 months ago
הוא כן התעלף, לא מת.
DragoNightmarE 9 months ago
כל הכבוד לכל מי שבא להעיד נגד המפלצת הזה יימח שמוווו וזכרווו!
tuti90000 9 months ago
הוא התעלף ומת מזה?
MrBietarZona 11 months ago
@MrBietarZona
הוא לא מת מזה..
maayani205 9 months ago
רגע בסוף הוא התעלף ?
talalgom 1 year ago
איזה איש, יחיאל דינור ז"ל, פשוט מצמרר. הספרים שלו, העולם שעליו כתב בכל לבו וכאבו, פשוט קר לי בגוף. יהי זכרו ברוך, איש חזק ומוכשר
lisakirara 1 year ago 9
(2) writing anything about the jews living there. Oh, and trust me, I have nothing to fear from the jewish in Argentina, most of them are peaceful n rational people with no hyper-fanatical views on this or that author. So I suggest you to read the critics of an increasing number of israeli academics questioning the accuracy of him and the convenience of keeping his works inside the schools curricula. Googling 'Sidra Ezrahi' and 'Hanna Yablonka' would be good to start. Good luck.
Chorisaurio 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio
(1)
What do you mean "of course imaginary". Are you denying that the guards in AWSHWITZ rape the Jew prisoners? Are you denying that 6 million Jews were killed as well? Is this something you learned from your Nazi grandfather? Try telling that to the Argentinean Jew. (I still think you are a chicken for hiding under nickname and not publishing your name and address, if you weren’t a mouse you would stand behind your “believes”)
dorbarber 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio
(2) I guess you and Ahmadinejad have a lot in common. You both criticize Israel politics, and you are both “scholars” that deals with Holocaust denial.
Regarding your claims on Israelis arousing from KZ books. Again you are too stupid to understand that they are talking about Stalags and not KZ books. 'Hanna Yablonka' is an Israeli historian and scholar of the Holocaust I don’t understand your point (if any).
dorbarber 1 year ago
@dorbarber *yawn* (bored) (1) I realise it's very difficulty 4 u to pay attention to a single topic at once. Yet the movie is about the stalags, the man at 45 min is referring to KZ's book, so you are the stupid one, or you just lie. And since u mention the Holocaust, let me quote Hanna Yablonka, who said that “the Holocaust was bad enough, without making things up”, in a paragraph about the book "Doll's House" (article in Jerusalem Journal, sept. 6, 2007). And, as said before, she is
Chorisaurio 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio
(3)
I can assure you that there is no such movement against KZ (as premshy try to tell you).
In some sense I really happy that you wrote what you wrote since most of the people that watching this clip are Jews and you gave them a good lesson about how the modern anti Semitic person think – so thank you.
dorbarber 1 year ago
@dorbarber (2) not the only academic who rejects K-Z's fiction as real (as the iranian one is not the only head of state who criticises some of Israel's policies). In short, I only can give you my best advice: you shouldn't be so touchy about fictional work, if you are interested in Holocaust history you better study true testimonies and serious research. I´m afraid K Tzetnik is not the best source.
Chorisaurio 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio (1)
You are hidden the main issue with irrelevant half true and lies. Watching one movie that deals with the Holocaust doesn’t make you an expert historian about the Holocaust. There are literally tens of thousands historians which believe that sexual exploitation was very common in block 24 at Auschwitz. (google “block 24” & “Auschwitz” will do the trick). A letter was found which Heinrich Himmler himself
dorbarber 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio (2)
(your hero) wrote claims that a sexually fulfilled prisoner is an effective prisoner. The question that the historian deals with is whether the Germans themselves raped the girls or just let the Kapos (non German guards) rape the girls as a reward. By taking this debate and turning it into a Holocaust denial issue you are acting exactly as you Iranian boyfriend.
dorbarber 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio (3)
Another important face that you failed to include in your opinion is that KZ wrote 11 books. Each of those book received world wide exposure and recognitions. He considered as one of the leading authors of the Holocaust. Not only that you are talking just about his second book “The House of Dolls”. You are talking about a single critic of him. For any quote you give of his critic I can give hundreds of good reviews about this book.
dorbarber 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio (4)
Another important face that you failed to write is that KZ is a holocaust survivor from Auschwitz. And calling him ridiculous clown is extremely insensitive to any Jew who read this thing. I know you don’t understand my last sentence but it just show what a great Holocaust expert you are.
dorbarber 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio (5)
Not only that you choose to make fun on this poor man you also do it on the background of his testimony in Adolf Eichmann trail clip. This trail was curved in the collective memory of the Israeli people. His testimony and his collapse symbolize the horrors that the Auschwitz survivors suffered which until that point people did not speak about that.
dorbarber 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio (6)
Another important fact is that no man EVER had the presumptuousness and the insensitivity to call his books pornography not even his greatest critics. (Maybe except Ahmadinejad).
dorbarber 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio
There is a god… You trashed Jewish icons and god punishing Argentina for that.
Shameful loss to Germany in the world cup (Final score 4:0) :-)
Fuck you again you Nazi bastard.
dorbarber 1 year ago 4
@dorbarber Missing me, huh? All I have to say is that K. Tzetnik was rather a SHAME than an icon for jewish culture & history.
Bye, and keep cheering your beloved Germany.
You're funny.
Chorisaurio 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio
(4)
Regarding the “fanatical views” you talking about. Try to imagine that your people were genocide by the millions and than someone called the author who describes this genocide a pornographer. You must be extremely stupid not to understand that.
As always “Hail Hitler” and send my regards to grandfather.
dorbarber 1 year ago
man wrote. Go ahead, perhaps you can sell some issues before its banned from public schools.
Chorisaurio 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio
Banned!! – You stupid man. It is mandatory literature reading in order to graduate high school in Israel. Your ignorance amazes me. The movie deals with only one of his books of K. Tzetnik. K. Tzetnik wrote another 9 books and considered to be the leading author of the Holocaust.
dorbarber 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio
I really don’t understand why you call K. Tzetnik a pornographer. Are you getting sexually aroused by reading about 11 year old girl been rape by Ukraine Guard in the concentration camp while her mother is watching crying and screaming? You sick sick man. You should get help!!!!
dorbarber 1 year ago
@dorbarber (1) OMG this writer was even more pervert than I imagined!! The (of course imaginary) rape scenario u are describing does not turn me on, but actually K-Z's literature is arousing in the view of some israeli ppl (see 'Stalags', at around 45:00 minutes, where a man, who seems to be a writer, clearly states it). Anyway, thanks for your warning, it's another reason for not reading his BS. On the google data: oh yes, I've typed a lot of my opinions on Israel's policies, but I don't rmembr
Chorisaurio 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio
Regarding what you said about your ancestors. I Google your name and saw what you wrote about the Jews in Israel. Are you sure that your grandfather is not one of the SS officers which escape from Europe to Argentina after WW2. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is.
dorbarber 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio
I wish you the best with your “Jew hating”, “sick porn watching”, and spreading hate and lies over the internet life.
Hail Hitler to you (send my regards to grandfather)
BTW – if you man enough publish your real name and address so other Jews from Argentina will kick your anti Semite ass.
dorbarber 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio
You guys are funny.
Youre arguing about a text - BRING THE TEXT!
anyway, He is very appreciated throughout the world. His style is poetic, its hard to imgaine pornography in that specific style, eventhough i'm not sure the text you are refering too.
The video here, howevert, is one of the srongest, most well-known videos from that generation. It is chilling, if you understand what he is saying.
It is hard to believe, I know, he sounds surreal, but for us it is hard to hear.
premshay 1 year ago
@premshay
K. Tzetnik describes the most horrific crime ever committed and Chorisaurio called it pornography.
K. Tzetnik testifies in a trail about the horrors he saw in the AWSHWITZ. He collapses from the emotional stress and Chorisaurio called him a ridiculous clown.
Chorisaurio clearly is a sick individual. No need to try and educate him.
dorbarber 1 year ago
exploitation publishings (i.e. Stalags) so thanks, but i'll decline your suggestion, I have no interest (nor time either) in reading such kind of garbage. It's a shame that your studies in Physics (if true?) don't help you develop any critical thinking about this author, or overcome the insane grudge you show against people with european descent (btw my ancestors didn't harmed anybody, at least those who lived in the XX century) lest you have a special interest in promoting the strange work this
Chorisaurio 1 year ago
What do 'neo-nazi' has to do with this? Are you one of them? Second, it's obvious you didn't see the movie Stalags, all his claims are completely debunked by JEWISH israeli people & historians. So try to THINK and LEARN a bit before you use your computer for spread your hate & frustration - oh, wait a minute, that's too much 4 u, I see...
Chorisaurio 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio
I did saw the movie. The movie claims that when Ka-Tzetnik described the rape of young woman and children by Nazi guards in Auschwitz he triggered an erotic context for some of his readers by doing so he destroyed some of his massage. I strongly recommend you to read his books before you replay.
dorbarber 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio
By the way, no Israeli will ever debunk the horrors in the concentration camps so I recommend you to see the movie again. Also no historians was interviewed for this movie only other Authors. After you will understand what kind of horrors my ancestors suffered from your ancestors (I assume you are European) you will not allow yourself to make fun of this man. Regarding your remark on “thinking and learing”, I hold a PHD in physics.
dorbarber 1 year ago
@dorbarber I'm afraid ur wrong again. In the movie (I still doubt u saw it) Na'ama Shik is interviewed; in fact she is summa cum laude M.A. in modern history from Tel Aviv University, and currently working at the International School for Holocaust Studies at Yad Vashem, Jerusalem. K. Tzetnik work is also considerred by modern israeli critics as pornographic fiction (source: wikipedia); and in the film professor Dan Miron states KZ was something like 'the one who opened the door' for further
Chorisaurio 1 year ago
I saw this scene at the film "Stalags".
He was such a ridiculous clown, wasn't he?
Chorisaurio 1 year ago
@Chorisaurio
You are so stupid for saying such a hurtful thing about this man who suffers more than you can even imagine in his life by anti-Semitic people like you. If you read his books you will understand that no man have the right to criticize him. I don’t know who you are or what your deal is but I really hope that you say this thing because you are a young child and not neo-Nazi
dorbarber 1 year ago