Kraftwerk Live - AMAZING - Manchester Velodrome 2009 tour de france Plus surprise guests!

[RogerTurk]

amazing sound quality... kraftwerk is brilliant

[modernclics]

Good idea, I love it!

Cheers from Argentina, I saw them twice here, the first one in 2002 and recently with the Radiohead tour. It's really a shame that Florian doesn't tour anymore :(.

[DarkWagner4]

Kraftwerk in Argentina:

1) 12.10.1998

2) 12.11.2004

3) 24.03.2009

[modernclics]

2004 Sorry :P

[rikkidelreek0]

the core of electronic music is here - they will never be equalled - superbly brilliant

[EthanThePerson]

The reasons that they are popular are NOT simply because they invented a genre. They also make good music, and still do to this day. I'm not trying to start an argument, just stating what we all know as the truth, exept you, apparently.

[Retrogamer71]

Awesome twist on a classic.

That is to have live riders in the

performace. The guys should get

on the bikes for an encore.

[freakpower2008]

The pesonnel from left to right are Ralf Hütter, Henning Schmitz, Fritz Hilpert and Stefan Pfaff

[dannywhitehead]

'WELLTOP' I've dj 'ed for nearly twenty years professionally met and dj'ed and infront/alondgside the likes of Paul Hartnoll, Leftfield and many others top acts most of which you listed on your own influences.

[dannywhitehead]

Electronic music has been my life and my living and whatever you think or post Kraftwerks huge legacy speaks for itself. Their recent output doesn't take away from anything they have done or achieved, quite simply i dont give a toss about that, i just still love their music/concerts. I think ultimately you just don't get the music, never mind.

[dannywhitehead]

Your layers argument is so lame, most often less is more!

But maybe you like a bit of clatter in your music type guy, each to their own.

[dannywhitehead]

ANYWAY I really don't see why you posted on here in the first place. Slating everyone comments, being childish and offensive when someone didn't agree? If you don't like what everyone here obviously likes then please don't post on here again. Maybe post on something positive on a band site/blog you actually like and b e p o s i t i v e instead of dissing moaning and dissecting, but then again maybe thats your thing?

Anyway breath, wasting, anybody?

[harrylime22]

Well said

[Alexob1]

Why Don't Kraftwerk plays strings?... oh I remember!!! CAUSE THEY ARE ELECTRONIC MUSCICIANS!!!, they practically invented the electro pop music!!!, they brought a new dimension to the music!!!, I wonder till today still hearing their music!, CAUSE THEY ARE GOOD!!!! if any one like to hear New Age music WTF are doing here?

[harrylime22]

I think your find that Kraftwerk's last album was 2003 called Tour De France Soundtracks

, you dumb fuck.

Also how can you compare Bent to kraftwerk ??

Its like comparing the Artic Monkeys to the Beatles.

Please go away and listen to your amazing music and let us listen to Kraftwerk in peace.

[nim7rod]

re your comment "Unlike Kraftwerk, Bent can change their sound, every album is different", all I can say is that you and I must hear music very differently. Kraftwerk have created radically different sounds on different albums they've done. We'll just have to agree to disagree about them. There are other talented acts out there, but Kraftwerk remain unsurpassed, even after all this time. It's the quality of the melodies that clinches it for them, a facet of electronic music that you overlook.

[nim7rod]

Bent are very good-I think their finest hour is Exercise 4 on Ariels. I'll concede that they layer their sound effectively as do Ulrich Schnauss, Orbital and Leftfield, but Kraftwerk achieve moments that are just as stunning with far fewer layers. You say they're overrated, but you're in an extremely small minority. They get the kudos they're due, and the irony is that all the acts mentioned above will have ****ed off over them at some time or other. You can bet your life on it.

[freakpower2008]

Kraftwerk are also the only band mentioned with a sense of humour.... geddit?

[nim7rod]

Kraftwerk were pioneers of the highest order, but their lasting appeal is down to them writing great songs that contain melodies among the finest ever written in any genre. Also their mastery at creating atmosphere with just a sparse selection of sounds - far harder than just adding endless layers to achieve the same effect. So much electronica is self-indulgent and goes nowhere remotely interesting, but Kraftwerk's Teutonic discipline and classical training means they never fall into that trap.

[harrylime22]

You have no idea what you are talking about,

How can more layers make something more intesting? The art of being minimal is very difficult and like fine wine is only understood by people with a fine taste.

What do you like tiesto  ?

[dannywhitehead]

i agree, in the same way james brown created his own genre of dynamic funk and soul..

his output was so immense also but obviously with such quality a plateau point is inevitable and yet irrelevant as the legacy left behind is immense

[nim7rod]

It's the fact that you're so comprehensively wrong I can't forgive. You say they're only popular because they invented a genre, as though that's a small feat, but in truth it's more simple than that - they just wrote some ****ing good songs. I've just been listening to Basscadet and Clipper by Autechre on YouTube and thought they were both completely lame. Self-indulgent 'atmospheric' twaddle that's crying out for some structure and melody. Ulrich Schnauss and Boards of Canada are good though.

[freakpower2008]

Yes, Schnauss is good.

[Thedivinewoman]

Still brilliant, dated? you have to be kidding me, they are innovators and innovators never date.

[nim7rod]

When the history of music is written, Kraftwerk will have a whole chapter dedicated to them. You can take all the acts you've mentioned and they won't even amount to a footnote. I seriously think you underestimate the importance of melody in electronic music - it's not just about texture or soundscapes - and it's Kraftwerk's strength in this area that explains their enduring appeal. You think Autechre will be pulling in sizable crowds in 30 years time? No, neither do I.

[nim7rod]

re your point about others creating more complex and sophisticated soundscapes, I don't think that adding more layers to a sound necessarily makes it more sophisticated. Many artists praise the simplicity and resulting clarity of Kraftwerk's music - the sounds they captured were so good they didn't need embellishment. It's a classic case of 'less is more'. I'm not bothered about there being no new music as their body of work speaks for itself and their legacy is so immense. They're untouchable.

[nim7rod]

You couldn't be more wrong about Kraftwerk sounding dated.

Their sound has a timeless quality to it, and will easily outlive a lot of contemporary electronica simply because they wrote such sublime melodies - never mind the sonic textures they created.

you're way off the mark

[freakpower2008]

Fantastic. Brilliant gig, brilliant moment. Cheers Ralf and co.... it was great.

[timwill67]

does it matter who the members are? of course the lineup has changed over the years, thats what happens in bands, they still created what they did all that time ago and people love it.

p.s. one original member remains.

[dannywhitehead]

Yes I was aware of this before going to the concert as I have followed the band the last twenty four years. 'very outdated' i would rather say vintage electronic.. anyway im not going to bite anymore and waste more of my time

[MrsGPM]

I agree with you Danny having obviously "found" them at the same time as you. I was struck last night at how much of what they were doing is regarded as commonplace now and it really brought home how radical they were at the time. Still, Peter Saville agrees with us so we must be right !;->

[dannywhitehead]

Good point, easy to forget how Kraftwerk shaped a lot of music from that point on. What they did way back when is still being borrowed from by us all (including me) today and probably tomorrow!

Mr Saville, now you're talking. Legend i, saw him leaving the concert, another guy who changed things!

[MrsGPM]

Well as an Ultravox I cannot praise Mr Saville enough on the design front for a start. I remember the first time I head Kraftwek - I was just "what is this?!" and I had to go out and buy it - it was "Computer Love"...

[dannywhitehead]

But with one or two better songs, had to be there!

[TheBIFTAs]

I was there, front row too. Event of the year.

[digression]

Brilliant!

[karlbartosfan]

i was there right at the front watching Ralf, Henning, Fritz and stefan smiling as TEAM GB went past

[MrsGPM]

Wow - lucky you! I was in the first block to the left of the stage a few rows back. It was fantastic wasn't it?

[jdbuso]

it was amazing - a highlight of the show

[MrsGPM]

Good footage - great night.

[dannywhitehead]

Wait till 3:30!