Waterboost Hydrogen Fuelled Car

[MrBenchy35]

another uk supplier is hydrogenmaker dot co dot uk

[MrBenchy35]

There seems to be alot of oil corparation staff on this thread haha....Well Im going to give it a go...the method and common sense tells me it does work...the waterboost man must be making a fortune out of this so called (by the idiots) scam... I can see from the video he's rolling in it, no offence intended waterboost....

[kennethrmoore]

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[kennethrmoore]

Isn't the Waterboost very similar to the product made by Oil drum that was investigated by the BBC and found not to work ?

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[waterboost]

@oilburner75 - You clueless fool! Carry on living in your bubble! and wasting fuel ;)

[HybridWaterMan2]

Actually hho generators do work. We continue to get results from our customers and have just hired more employees to keep up with work. You must have a good system and you must have a way to deal with modern car electronics or it won't show good results. About HP- say it takes 5 horse to power the generator. Now you install a super efficient alt that puts out twice the amps at same or less hp (readily available). Now what do you say?

It takes very little hydrogen to extract more energy from gas

[Video85Man]

can you please tell me what a relay is and what it does?? thanx ;)

[Casmige]

=OoO=

The Alternator (As opposed to most Generators) puts out Alternating Current that is then Rectified into 12 Volts Direct Current.

What would HHO output be if one merely & simply used the Alternating Current to catalise the HHO in leiu of the Direct Current???!!,

For a certainty, Alternating Current has more of a ZAP!! to it.......

[waterboost]

@Casmige - You need DC to make Hydrogen... if you try AC, there is no gas, just heating water, it is called an electrode boiler...

[Casmige]

@waterboost Oh...Well, it was just a thought...I don't know too much about this stuff...often-times the most interesting perspectives comes from those not so close to the project & design......kinda out-of-the-box stuff. Cheers for the clarification & kind reply!!

[luxsato]

I think people are missing the point here. Its an increase in mileage by making use of unused Amperage on the Alternator. Of course its not perpetual motion :P. I would like to know, what is the increase in efficiency from pure gasoline though, as well as the rate of production of hydrogen?

[waterboost]

It depends how you drive and what you drive. We have the same unit fitted to a 40ton lorry and it is saving just under 30% on fuel!

[dzgfdg]

@luxsato its a decrease in mileage because u r putting stress on the alternator, which in turn puts stress on the engine

[sigmoid6]

I agree with kryckeestrooff, history of the technology goes back to early 1900s, buddy makes reference to the US Fed Government (parasites) and he calls us delusional... ???properly introducing oxygen and hydrogen into an exisiting combustion chamber can and will increase speed and efficiency of combustion (flame spread), torque... and ultimately mileage, they sell kits for transports... take heart his kind are on their last legs... change coming soon... Big Money Interest "game" is over ;-)

[kryckeestrooff]

Looks to me like the Oil Company shareholders have been spamming this Vid!!!

You rave on about energy loss through the alternator, and while some of that is true, you fail to mention how a car will keep moving for a time without using any fuel, once in motion! This is also the reason why highway cycles always return better gas milage. While a car is in motion the alternator is also driven by that motion regardless of the load placed upon it. This is why HHO systems do work so well!

[a1mint]

Too bad it costs more energy to produce HHO than the amount of energy returned by burning it.

Those darn laws of nature, I tells ya.

[waterboost]

aha... another deluded muppet!

You would be better off coming to see us rather than judge something you havent seen in action ;)

Thanks anyway...

[a1mint]

Noone has ever actually proved that an HHO system improves mileage. But there is a world wide cover up by oil companies, companies connected to oil companies, and governments.

Not a single university study on this subject that shows an HHO system has any benefit.

If people don't see who's the one that is deluded, then they're fucked in the head.

[harckez]

@a1mint

un carro produce mas electricidad de la que puede consumir, un tipico sistema productor de HHO solo consume 1 a 2 amperes para producir 1 Lt. de HHO gas

translate

a car produces more electricity than it can consume, a typical producer HHO system consumes only 1 to 2 amperes to produce HHO gas 1 Lt.

[a1mint]

How does a car consume electricity? You're not making any sense.

Anyway, here's a video about how HHO in cars can not work:

watch?v=5G9DAmt_jLk

It's only proponents are ignorant people and scam artists, and that is a bona fide carved in stone indisputable undeniable fact.

[harckez]

@a1mint

a car's alternator produces 90 to 150 Amps at 15 volts, a standard car with electric motors muchisimos glass, windscreen, air conditioning, fuel pump, stereo, audio amplifiers, etc etc etc

[harckez]

@a1mint

great video thanks, but do not lose anything by doing the experiment, I work a 4 HP motor with 100% HHO, and you can work with solar cells do not see where the problem of using solar cells as energy for the electrolysis, I understand that There are many people who want to get rich selling HHO kits but not see why not experiment without buying anything, improve mileage has nothing to do with making work a ford 302 100% with HHO personally I find it impossible

[a1mint]

Try putting a load on that 4HP engine running on just HHO, it'll stall pronto.

As for using solar power, it'd be more efficient to store the electricity in a battery and run an electric motor to help the car.

And check that video link out - you'll see that generating little puny little HHO gas is like an ant fart on a hill - like throwing a match in a forest fire.

HHO has been debunked - it's a 100% waste of time.

[revolxaohemwolb]

False. An alternator produces only as much power as the load connected to it demands. Alternators do not make excess power at any time. They DO produce greater voltage than needed to charge the battery, but this is limited to 13.8V by the regulator. Add a load like an "HHO" system and the alternator is harder to turn, taking more fuel from the tank.

You can't get back more energy from a system than you put in. "HHO" REDUCES fuel economy.

[harckez]

tnx  x info

hho reduces co2 emision?

[idunno74]

"You can't get back more energy from a system than you put in."

surely u cant just put fuel in a car and expect it run an entire engine then..

Fact is, hydrogen is a powerful element.

[revolxaohemwolb]

Too right. These silly HHOax systems take more energy from the crankshaft than they can return to the crankshaft- they are net energy consumers. Why? 30% energy loss in alternator belt, 40% loss in alternator, 50% loss in electrolyser, 70% loss when hydrogen is combusted in an ICE. To just break even, you'd need a 100% efficient alternator belt, 100% efficient alternator, 100% efficient connecting cabling, 100% efficient electrolyser, 100% efficient internal combustion engine.

[a1mint]

Yes, indeed. The HHO lying sacking of shit con crooks barf up stories how supposedly it increases the petrol burning process to make up for these losses.

And yet noone ever in history, on the entire planet, in none of the 160+ countries, EVER, has been able to provide any credible proof it can work what-so-ever.

[waterboost]

I have offered proof to retards like you!

I have happy customers...

We have even supplied them to car manufacturers...

[revolxaohemwolb]

When the US Federal Trade Commission says "HHO" can improve fuel economy, it will be believable. However, they're busy suing "HHO" scammers like Dennis Lee who make false claims which are just like your false claims. Now, why is this? I spoze you'll tell me that the US FTC are in cahoots with the oil companies... :D

"HHO" is a HHOax. If you believe it works, you're deluded. If you sell "HHO" toys, you're a scammer.

[revolxaohemwolb]

Modern piston engines with EFI combust 99% of the fuel in the cylinder. 1% passes the exhaust valve and is combusted the cat converter. EVEN IF "HHO" systems could recover the remaining 1%, (and they can't because hydrogen does not have a catalytic effect) that'd be 0.3MPG out of 30mpg. Completely insignificant.

Wake up and smell the physics, people. This is a waste of time and money for experimenters and outright fraud if sold.

[afdhalatifftan92]

@revolxaohemwolb

Wrong!!

If 99% of the fuel is combusted completely at the combustion cycle, the exhaust muffler wont get black!!

Look at your own car, the exhaust wall is black...

[waterboost]

I've seen too many amazing results and improved driveability to deny the public of such amazing kit...

[revolxaohemwolb]

Rubbish. The "HHO" system takes energy off the crankshaft but has no way within the laws of physics to return more than it takes.

It's a net energy consumer.

NO FREE LUNCH.

If you believe it, you're delusional or haven't considered the losses in the system.

If you sell it, you're a scammer.

[juggernautxtr]

@revolxaohemwolb

the biggest problem with these systems is they are all trying to claim Stan Meyers work.

Stan did not just run his car on HHO alone.

HHO was a fuel to heat water in the combustion chamber to create steam. if steam there fore is hot enough it will also seperate and combust in the cylinder.

[xadam2dudex]

true u can't hear the guy talking for the music

[SHOOTER0072003]

stop the stupid music so that your video can get more views

[Maverick1966]

Dude, you cant hear shit you are saying with the music on. Upload the video again without music if you are going to talk about how it works.

[fjlj]

i can hear him just fine.... so not sure what ur talkin bout... but yea... in a side note.. you would get less you can achieve less CO2 if your solution contains no carbon... for example baking soda and baking powder have carbon so when the atoms are split you form CO2... where as sodium hydroxide does not have any so you will get much much less if any CO2

[waterboost]

The car has mega low emissions... ;)

[fjlj]

i dont care about emissions... CO2 doesnt burn... my point was that if your solution can produce a higher potency mixture of purely oxygen and hydrogen then you are going to gain a better MPG increase from the hydrogen/oxygen mixing precisely and burning. to get 100% fuel economy you want to have just hydrogen, oxygen and gasoline in the cylinder.. and you want just enough oxygen to burn all of the gasoline and hydrogen. but that is in a PERFECT system, and is highly unlikely.

[stormbouy]

i agree the funky james bond music is too loud

[waterboost]

James Bond? Not sure I'm listening to the same tune as you... ;)

[afdhalatifftan92]

Please, stop being smart!!

You're not the only one who knows math...

Please, don't show of your nerdy here!!

[ShaketTijuanamexico2]

not need used gaz? only hidrogen?

[falcustinnunculus]

Yo oliver! It was groovy to see you at Ian's gathering the other week. Can you text the contact for the bro who preps the vehicle before installing your machine to 07763 098 623- his name too as I can't recall it. My baby daddy had an old LDV van that I hope is a suitable candidate for you ting. ONE LOVE! Kerry (Gormley - we met at Energy Forum Too!)

[petermoonraw]

Is this car running on hydrogen, or is it hydrogen assisted?

[waterboost]

it is very assisted... I couldnt afford to drive without one... its fast, torquey, responsive... only got one unit fitted now... and a fuel vapourisor...

[mikxr]

hi water boost interesting video and well done, i`m wondering how the hydrogen manufacture would go with more voltage and less amps, for example i was thinking of running an ignition coil with a variable voltage to power the cell or just a plain step up transformer, just as an experiment,i have no experience in this area your thoughts would be welcome.

[waterboost]

If you use more volts you wont need any electrolyte... however, from my experience, 12v at 5 amps is better than 240 volts at 2amps? The extra energy is wasted in heat... ;)

Try a big bridge rectifier straight into the 240ac so you get 240dc... remember to start with no electrolyte and add if necessary to bring the amps up a tadge if you want to...

We tried a coil... the energy jumped thro, made no gas... all volts... no current... the amps do the work, the voltage must match the cell design ;)

[mikxr]

thanks Waterboost your a gentleman  cheers mikxr.

[s15via]

yeah, sounds not too bad at all.. you should throw up a video of it?

[s15via]

hey there, just a question. why are the cars different from the start, middle and rear? (there are two different engines) and three types of car.

[waterboost]

There is a shot of a Honda CRX with £50,000 running gear and no bonnet, shown at the end...

The golf is the same in all videos, a standard MK2 gti, 1991... Its featured in another one of our videos... Vacuum Fuel System...

3 types of car? 2 engines? What are you watching?

[s15via]

sorry i meant two. 50k worth? whats been done to it..? doesnt look like that much..?

[waterboost]

It looks like a boring 1991 Honda CRX, except for carbon fibre bonnet, brembo brakes and harnesses, it looks quite normal...

It produces 235bhp at the wheels and it scared me... It has a brand new, race team built, R-Type motor and nothing is standard... the gearbox sounds like its off an aeroplane?

Now that it has a hydrogen machine, it doesnt chase on tick over (problems with a high lift cam) and doesnt get hot in traffic jams...

It is almost the ultimate track day car...

[vb6josh]

Awsome videos Waterboost.

i did not even think about addind a second cell to my truck. I have an HHo cell on my Pickup but am waiting on my EFIE to take control of my O2 sensors.

Houston, Tx

[waterboost]

what type of EFIE are you waiting for?

I hope its not a resistor and potentiometer in a box, cos' that wont work...

[vb6josh]

Its one that the youtube user madscientist67 developed. Its called a COSM IIA. Let me know what you think. I have a vid of my set up on here.

[BIGINSF]

I built a saturated cell I designed with bubbler/reservoir combined so water circulates and helps cooling. I added a 2nd cell with a microswitch on accelerator that switches on when depressed for extra boost. each cell produces 1.5L/min. Have yet to test mileage and amps. Waiting on a new 150amp alternator and ammeter. Hydrogen is the future!

[waterboost]

what is a saturated cell?

do you need water circulation? mine dont need cooling... 2nd cell on a switch is a good one but in my experience probably wont make much difference... too much gas didnt help...

Will you be changing the timing?? retard or advance??

[BIGINSF]

A saturated cell is completely full of electrolite all the time. Basically it is the same as most cells , but the bubbler is modified. One hose will go from the top of the electrolizer cell to the bottom of the bubbler (or close to the bottom on the side)

Another hose (return line) goes from the bottom of the bubbler/reservoir back to the cell where it enters at the bottom. This creates a circulation that benefits the release of the bubbles via convection from the electrolizer plates.

[BIGINSF]

I also have to top up bubbler/reservoir much less regularly. The variance between high and low marks can be much greater than that of a regular cell in which the level is critical. The other benefit I may as well have is of course better cooling.

I put a switch on the throttle and a solenoid valve on the hho at the air intake. The moment I depress the pedal the cell is on and the solenoid valve opens up. There is always that little reserve hho held back by the valve for no delay.

[noshah11]

hi any ideas of four wire lamda sensors types will they measure correct and adjust ?

[waterboost]

The gas results in an abundance of oxygen in the exhaust. The lambda will see the oxygen and arrange for more fuel to be dumped into the engine. 2 wires power the lambda and the other 2 wires show the varying resistance from the lambda... Fit a variable 22k resistor inline with the wires and you have control of your car... The resistance reduces when there is more oxygen (I think), so increasing the resistance allows the car to run leaner...

[zidane444]

nice worke i have the same engin its 1.8L but its acarboratore im bilding some fuel cel not like yours its from stanles steel plate but yours lock more iligant and rirable nice progict!

how its ifict on the eltirnatore or the batrey?

and you yous alot of washers in the boutom of the tuope?

sorry for the english.

[zidane444]

yours lock more Reliable

[waterboost]

The alternator (eltinatore) and battery (batrey) are normal...

Not sure what you mean about washers in the bottom of the 'tuope', could you translate?

[toxicfrost123]

can you put this on a push mower? if so how can you make a video on that? thanks

[waterboost]

I dont have a garden...

We did a lawn mower engine with no blades strapped to a pallet... Is that not enough?

[zincdustdust]

This is new to me, but In a nut shell then and correct me if i'm wrong, does the fuel cell extract flammable hydrogen gas from the water in the cell, which is then injected into the carb to run the car? If this is the case how does it work on a diesel does hydrogen combust on compression?

[waterboost]

No, no, no... tutt! The cell extracts nothing, it splits water into its main ingredients... Hydrogen and Oxygen which goes into the manifold and assists the vinegar (poor quality petrol or diesel)...

Diesel combusts when compressed, Hydrogen and Oxygen make that combustion a more complete process resulting in a cleaner more powerful burn...

[noshah11]

will this system work on a mk 4 vw golf 1999 ?

please advise

[waterboost]

Petrol or Diesel? Diesel is easy! Petrol you have to fool about with a few things to make the most of it! Lambda sensors are a pain in the arse!

[german6474]

hi, wenn you tok about petrol is diesel?

how many petrol you save with this system?

thank

[waterboost]

what? the car is petrol and the figures are listed below (7 posts down)

[german6474]

hello, I have one questions, you engine is running benzine+hydrogen? I mean , run together? our only with hydrogen?

2 - if your car is running only wiht hydrogen, you star the motor with benzine our direct hydrogen, thank

[waterboost]

The car is still using petrol...

The supply of Hydrogen and Oxygen is constant...

I use the petrol to adjust the speed...

[hydrogaryb]

Your unit where did you buy it from?

[waterboost]

I've spent nearly 3 years and a lot of time and money developing the perfect unit... They dont get dirty inside, they dont over heat, never leak, require little or no maintenance and make loads of gas with very weak electrolyte... You can run them from as little as 5 amps but I have ben running my car unit at 30 amps... my conclusion is; less is more?

[outie555]

by the less is more bit do you mean that using less draw on your alternator by using lower amps (and less gas) is better for fuel economy, or higher amps (with more gas)?

[waterboost]

My units can be run at 5 amps upto 40 amps without getting hot...But most customers so far are experiencing better mpg at approximately 10amps... Anymore than that and the timing and everything seems to need changing... Too much gas...

[CyrussTheVirus]

Have you tried to see what your MPG is with the hydrogen system on and off? IF so what was the MPG increase when hydrogen is on? and off?

[waterboost]

25-32mpg without

42-64mpg with

The car is prettly tired to be honest...

[rodibrunoo]

I have worked with generators of hydrogen, all the liters / does hour(o'clock) produce your equipment?

Thank you Rodi

[waterboost]

60-90 litres per hour...

[YiuTeub]

What change in MPG?? I could care less why things work. I want to know does it work. Scangauge2 ??

[waterboost]

depends on the car, the system and the driver...

[Gewels8787]

can i do the same on gasoline or this is only for diesel?

[waterboost]

petrol, diesel, veggie oil, lpg, whatever you like...

[helzefeld]

Best part about this is that it actually cleans the engine ;p

[waterboost]

My car produces more Oxygen than Carbon Monoxide and NOX put together... Its almost mobile air purification. The CO2 is reduced relative to increase in MPG. The car is 17 years old and cleaner than a brand new one...

[NeoConMan101]

does this work for diesel engines?

[waterboost]

yes

[cm250fine]

ya go to hho honda to see my hho gen

[waterboost]

At least show us your honda when you have it finished and working... Or at least doing something... You had all the bits for ages... get on with it and stop video'ing what you are going to do and video something you have done... please ;)

[cm250fine]

Will it work on a kia rio? I have a big one

[waterboost]

Are you sure you have a big one? No need to be insecure about size around here... I understand ;)

The Kia Rio has a nasty little engine... of course it will work... Nasty little engines need Hydrogen and Oxygen...

[0ddba11s]

LOL

[etiennegignac]

I see that your car is fairly recent....did you have to mess with injectors duty cycle, engine timing and what not ? I plan on putting one of these in my yaris.

[waterboost]

Good Luck with the Yaris! :) lol...

You may have problems with the o2 sensor...

I didnt change anything on the golf but you will have to alter the Yaris, guaranteed!

[etiennegignac]

Just wondering : why do you have 2 injection sites (before and after the air sensor) ?

[waterboost]

Two gas machines and no T-Pieces... This car has had about 5 different setups over the last year... Different gas machines, different meters... ;)

[imenhoteb]

ha ha .... fun...look on my water torch i sweden... imenhoteb torch

[Greasy01]

Woops I am sorry that was for the rong video

[Greasy01]

Hi waterboost,

Thanks for the video.

Bad picture quality is better than no picture.

I have quite a few questions for you if you don't mind.

1. Did you change the timing on the engine?

2. If so, what method did you use?

3. Did it harm the engine?

4. Was your fuel cell just not able to keep up at the end?

Greasy001 (It ain't easy being Greasy)