IBM RVF-4015-6A + Simplex 4263-1 Pull

[lkfcobra]

code 4 2 1

[ThePhantom710]

Schools need to invest in a more efficient warning system.

[weatherdan882002]

@ThePhantom710 Well, these alarms date back to the 1950s, not much "efficiency" was around back then...

[zachmamaw]

@weatherdan882002 at my old apartment buliding theres one of these on the outside and inside the apartment a wheelock miz and out side a wheelock mt

[SantaFebuff]

My school has a few of these not hooked up by the Honeywood fire alarms. It also in some places has the Simplex 500 bell. IDK what it is.

[thebiggreen101]

It does code 4-2-1

[ilovepolice1]

I have that coded pull station but its a couch!

[wileyk209zback]

@ilovepolice1 Couch was the original maker of them. Simplex and others rebranded them; I have the Simplex version, and inside it on the bottom I can see a Couch logo. Couch was bought out by Faraday in the late 1970s.

[wileyk209zback]

UPDATE: I figured out how to test my Simplex 4263 pull; I did so using a Faraday 6020 and a Simplex 2901-9838. I also have a similar IBM bell to that, but it's 4016-6A instead of 4015-6A. Not sure if it's a misprint, or if it depends on how the bell is designed (mine has that "rain guard" thing and is on a backbox). They still have those same bells at one of the middle schools in my city, but I am not sure how much longer they'll be there as the school is to be renovated, possibly this summer

[Are44441]

i have the IBM and EST integryty

[hyperbaricchicken101]

The sclool i went to when I was like 4 had a IBM system.

[spikez499]

Thats what my schools fire alarm is... .-.

[wileyk209zback]

I just got one of those pull stations, and I am attempting to hook it up to one of my Faraday 6020 horns to try it out. It's confusing on which wires go where!

[alicortez17]

I knew There Was an Fire

[nicolaj0154]

i never knew that IBM also made fire alarms i thougt they only made computers.

[weatherdan882002]

@nicolaj0154 IBM made fire alarms and alarm systems from the 1930s through 1955, which is when they they sold their fire alarm and time clock product lines to Simplex.

[weatherdan882002]

@nicolaj0154 1958 actually

[101hamm]

can you do it with a4253-1?

[weatherdan882002]

IDK what that is...

[101hamm]

its a simplex 4253-1 pull and can you hook it up to a 9 volt battery?

[weatherdan882002]

Yes, pulls don't require power to work (unless they run on electricity), BUT, it's the volts for the signal that matter. The reason I use 115VAC in this vid is because that's what the bell requires in order to work. Most signals today require 24 VDC to work, and if that's the case, that's what you need to hook up to the pull.

[101hamm]

thanks

[wishcaw]

yah my school has these pull stations with some old bells that ring once three times and stopes for a while and starts again i dont know how but thay added strobes to the def class rooms

[Tabby266]

Then they stuck them on light-plates. And thecoding (the sound it makes)( is code 3.

[3dkidsartfairs]

Could you do it with the 7002T?

[computerTube3000]

maybe its because you need a single stroke bell.

[weatherdan882002]

Correct. They made fire alarm products up until 1958 when they sold their fire alarm and timekeeping line to Simplex.

[staffxsarge]

ADEMCO makes this bell too but different color and different sticker

[staffxsarge]

no actually same color

[trainlova12]

why does it spark?

[bearlovesox]

4-2-1

[murrfarms]

So with the coded pull stations it's more or less an indoor version of the Gamewell system, right?

[weatherdan882002]

Same concept yeah - the code the station clacks out tells the location of the alarm. Sort of an early addressable system.

[NikThaStik22]

there is those at my school, i always wondered if they were hard to pull

[Iamzim9]

That pull station is huge!

[weatherdan882002]

All coded pulls are!

[Regency500]

IBM? International Business Machines? The Computer Company? Or is it something else?

[weatherdan882002]

That would be them! They sold fire alarm and time clock products in the 30s, 40s, and 50s, before selling both of those product lines to Simplex in 1958.

[StigelRULES]

I thought the control panel controlled the beat, not the call box.

[weatherdan882002]

Depends on age the system. Coded pulls were the predecessor to the addressable stations we have today. The code the pull does helps determine where the alarm origionated, and each pull has a different code #.

[KB1KOI]

why is there a long delay between the rounds? can't the motor be operated at a faster rate?

[weatherdan882002]

It could I guess, but I'd have to get rid of the device that causes the clicking, as that seems to regulate the speed...

[alarm53]

darn i was just about to get one

[grotit]

I have tonas of fire alaarms

[Electrotime]

thats huge and cool

[douro20]

I don't think IBM actually made their own signals, but instead they were made by Simplex or Western Electric.

[weatherdan882002]

Wrong. Infact, IBM actually sold all their products (fire alarm and clock line) to Simplex. The Simplex 4030 is actually from IBM...

[NewAgeServer]

is that directly wired to the 120 volts? If so, can the pull even handle that kind of voltage?

[brettman273]

Most of those old pulls can handle 120VAC as the current draw at that voltage is not very high; however, I can't speak for the owner as to the voltage of the bell.

[NewAgeServer]

Dan says it's 120 volts.

[weatherdan882002]

Yes, the pull is directly wired to 120 VAC, and yes, it can handle that - most pulls from that era can, as that's what the signals ran on. Plus, it's been said it doesn't matter how much voltage is applied, what matters is the amount of current (i.e., amps) pulled through the wires. Besides, in SimplexTech's IBM system vid, the code wheel often gave out sparks as well.