Jess and Deron have a point that it's not worth it to record an album because nobody will buy it, they'll just download it for free. That is a waste of CKY's time, money, and talent. They're not the only band in this position. Why should bands spend the money to record, produce, and distribute an album if nobody is going to pay to listen to it? Other than die hard CKY fans, nobody bought Carver City. Why should the band go through that again? Such a waste.
@Rschr101 I think the better question is, why does it seem like money is Deron and Jess' only motivation for making an album? A true artist would just be happy that people enjoy their art enough to even want to observe it in the first place. They shouldn't be mad at the fans for simply sharing with each other freely what makes them happy. They should be upset with our socioeconomic system which forces them to be wage slaves and give up their artistic integrity just to obtain money.
Deron is killing me. No demand for a new CKY ALBUM?! I'd be kicking down the door to the fucking studio to get my hands on some new CKY tracks. Honestly I grew up listening to these guys and ill be a fan until I die
after making 'World Under Blood' Deron made it pretty clear he wanted to go in a new direction and CKY was not it ... I still love all those guys, just have to appreciate the 14+ years we have of them -- its been one hell of a ride !!!
It kinda sucks because it seems like Deron and Jess lost their passion for CKY. The idea of 4 solo albums sounds cool but even they will do that then what? It doesn't seem like anyone other then Chad really wants a fifth album..
I love how Jess says it takes way too much money to make an album but in this day and age with the technology that's so widely available to anyone that's simply not true
I don't understand how a band could not be in a room and write together. Isn't that they way it should be? Why is Deron acting like it's such a crazy idea. What happened between all of them anyway that they're so set against not really working together? Chad's fucking amazing and needs to find something that will utilize his talents. I say Cky without Deron and start getting shit done.
@CyrineAmani I definitely have to agree. Seems like Deron has totally given up on CKY, he doesn't seem passionate about it like he used to. I definitely do like Chads ideas, it does work if you get in a room and jam, but everyone has to be open minded about it. Deron doesn't seem to like the idea because he's not feeling the band anymore, so he doesn't feel like it'll work.. It sucks because I've really been wanting to hear some new CKY. :(
@1stghostshadow I just think it sucks because Deron is the one who wrote the songs and riffs and his voice is one of the defining features and if he were to leave or somehting and somebody else, Chad, or anyobdy for that matter, it would never sound like it does. and its a shame because it seems like Chad, Jess, and Matty are really into cKy and with Deron the combined talent is so great but without Deron, itd be ehhhh. i think theyd still be great, but not cKy great.
I understand both parties ideas and fully support them while understanding where each member is coming from. I don't feel that deron is being whimpy I feel that he feels that he shouldn't have to have the responsibility of creating the skeleton as he calls it of an album it truly can be very stressful while the others sit around and wait. Now I'm not saying that's what Chad and jess (I exclude Matty j due to him not being on any of the previous albums) does but it can really ware ya down when
I think the band is done: this video confirms it for me.
If Jess is worried about his shit getting stolen, then surely the same problem exists for the solo 4-pack (dumb idea).
I think CKY should make one more really fucking amazing record, then call it a day - they're a great band and have had a rocky history but they've clearly got amazing talent.
@sjgamble as much as i think Chan is giving up, and Jess is just worried about money, i think they still care inside. and i dont know, maybe if they made solo albums they could take a little break for CKY they when they got back together they could have a better idea where each other is coming from by seeing the music they make on their own and use it so they can work together and make music with equal resposibilities. but as of right now things arent looking good. and im sad to say but its over
I agree 100% w/ Chad. I understand where Jess is coming from, he's got a family to take care of now. Sounds like Matty J just wants to play. But Derron sounds like a bitch. You shouldn't feel like you HAVE to make an album. It's not about demand. It's about wanting to get together and write new music for yourself and your fans. There's no passion there, and I don't think CKY fans really want some piece of shit that's just thrown together. Although, I'm sure they'd take whatever they can get.
fuck it, Chad and Matty should just start a band while Jess and Deron complain about doing what they should love to do(make music!) atleast Chad and Matty actually still like making music...
It's obvious that Deron and Jess have no interest in moving forward with the band, which is sad to see being a fan the past 11 years. The lackluster sales of CC and B-Sides must have really hurt Jess judging by his comments. Matty is just trying to play mediator which is expected, and Chad is just holding onto whatever might be left. I knew that something was coming the moment I heard Deron wasn't singing on Afterworld. Sucks for everyone that they are going to go out like this.
If the colaborative process of making song(s) together is a tedious drag, then making music sucks. Reinventing the process of creating something together is the way for this band to survive, the way I see it. Creating something should be fun and rewarding, otherwise trying to create something is doomed before you even begin.
i would've never thought a death metal dude could act like such a wimpy chick.. you're fucking rock dudes wtf is the problem - sit down and make the brilliant music you make..
jess always goes to that insane rant about 'illegal' downloading - it's music, you get paid to tour and play gigs and shit, it's been like that for atleast 15 years, get over it, you should be happy that anyone ever even downloaded your stuff.
I'm siding with Chad on this one, he seems to know where to take the band, he wants to create CKY music instead of combining the other member's own music into an album.
I don't know if another album would be right. When I look from the beginning right up to Carver City/B-sides and Rarities, they are all genius albums with some of the best music around in my opinion, and I think B-sides and Rarities is a good end to an awesome career of making such amazing and ground-breaking music. I would personally love to see solo work from Deron and Chad, and remember CKY as the awesome music right from Camp/Vol. 1, to IDR, up to B-sides and Rarities and everything between
Also I know Jess really hates downloading music illegally, and im not gunna defend the people who do, but thats just how it goes these days. It shouldnt stop you from making and releasing music. I would hope that the music means more to you than the money.
I think if everyone wants to write solo stuff, then go back on hiatus and make solo albums, dont force each other into writing six songs for a deadline then making CKY fans pay for all four albums together when one might suck
I have to side with Chad. Carver City was great as a "comeback" record, B-Sides was probably well timed to come out now. But I think another CKY album should come first before anything else. The four album thing is a cool idea, but as Chad said, Deron has literally just done one, and theres the thing with what would Jess do? Im not doubting his musical ability, but would it just be a Clutch wannabe album? Also we havent seen what Matty J brings to recording? As a lifelong fan I want a new CKY cd
cont. Letting people download your music freely is the best way to get your music out and promote yourself. If your music is truly good, people will buy your merchandise, tell friends about your band and go see you perform. Basically if you like what you download, then support it. Look at the band Nylithia, they are realeasing their album completely free. Its not the fault of the artist asking for money, or people sharing what they enjoy. The true underlying problem is the monetary system itself
@yllierutube How is the monetary system the underlying problem if an increase in piracy is hurting bands like CKY?
And releasing some tracks for free is a good way to promote yourself, but when it costs a certain amount of money to produce and distribute music and the majority of your following torrents the product, you can lose money and the incentive to create more music.
There's also a difference between sharing music you like with a friend, and uploading music to an online torrenting site.
This new idea sounds retarted. Didn't they already do side projects like Jess's TCB and Deron's WUB. Chad & Matt have yet to make anything. Also, sharing is not stealing! Copying an album creates something, not steals it. And if people who download never had the money to buy the album in the first place, then the artist isn't losing something they were never going to get. A true artist motivation is making great art and letting as many people enjoy it as possible, not making lots of money.
Copying creates? Seriously? That's funny. When I create something, I typically have an inherent sense of pride in what I've created. Somehow, whenever I've downloaded music, I've never felt the same sense of pride. Weird.
@yllierutube What's also funny is that you (clearly NOT an artist) are trying to tell people who are artists what their motivation should and should not be. Worry about yourself, and how to not be such a parasite that has to steal what others create. Looks like the only thing you've created are a bunch of shitfully flimsy justifications for stealing.
@yllierutube "Retarted." You don't have any right to call someone else's idea "retarted" when you can't even spell the word correctly. It's spelled "retard," you fucking retard.
@CorporateNothing ha-ha, thanks Captain Spellcheck for courageously pointing out spelling errors on youtube... I'm sure no one could have ever figured out the difference. I guess now that you solved that conundrum, you can go back to doing your other douchebagery.
cont. (kid hit send on my phone). Deron and Jess seem like they don't care anymore... Maybe it's because they have families or whatever. I just miss CKY 5 years ago...
Deron and Jess sound jaded. Deron sounds like he is tired of doing most of the work. Well Deron you are the lead guitarist and singer...a lot of the songs/albums revolve around your approach. And Jess....people will steal your music for the rest of time. You say you hate working hard on a record because someone will steal it. Whatever happened to working hard on a record because you want to make great music?
say I wouldn't be interested in what they all come up with by themselves. This is my first impression of Matty and he seems like a really cool, level headed guy. I welcome him. I grew up with this band, I have always, always been so ecstatic when they announced a new album. Even if they don't continue, I just want them to do well, be recognized, because they fucking deserve it. (2/2)
This video is a little hard to watch. I really don't blame them. Especially Jess' side. It's not him "wanting money", it's the fact that they all try so damn hard at what they create and people don't appreciate it enough to buy it and support them. I totally get that. Deron seems... weary, worn. Not surprising in the climate of music today. Chad seems motivated which is a good thing to see, glad to see Chad is still firing full cylinders for Cky, his idea I like the most, not to (1/2)
ok deron and jess dont even know wht the fuck there talkin about, deron needs to stop acting like a little bitch and just make a new album and stop tlkin about doin a solo cd package cause who wants to buy that i know i wouldnt we want a band album!! its what every one wants is a new cky album, and chad is probably the only one in the band that is keeping them together, chad needs to beat the shit out of them to make em realize that there idea is dumb as fuck!
Really interesting. Thanks for this. I gotta say the 4 solo albums idea is really lame. CIG has the right idea here. I know they all seem not to like each other haha, but he's right.
cKy is such a kick ass band for them not to make another cKy album would be so so sad to see. chads idea is best and i think that if they did do it it'd be like hearing them for the first time all over again. KICK FUCKIN ASS!!!!
chad has the most heart at this point, and it's upsetting because Deron has basically given up already, jess is following in his path and matty j is trying to hold it together. i agree with chad, because he's the only one really making sense.
man this is a depressing video... I'll tell you what I will follow Chad after Cky breaks up because he is the only one who has any sense. Isn't that how you make good music get in a room together and jam it out?? Deron and Jess need to quit being little pussys, suck it up and do what they do best, make music for the fans.
@playthewater i couldnt agree more with you., you basically are thinking the same way as me. chad's the only one making sense at all. and matty j is neutral about it, but he agrees more with chad.
@biancerrful Matty j is neutral only because he doesn't want to be kicked out or loose friends in something he just joined. When I think CKY I only think CIG, Jess and Deron... Deis (bass) was a great addition to Cky, Whatever happened to him offically?
Matty J doesn't have to be kicked out, from the way CKY is going. It they keep up the way it is now, the band will unfortunately break up, and Matty J will be another (4th) former bassist of the band
I've always felt like Chad was my least favorite member for some reason, but in this video I see him in a new light. He's the only one with the love still... and its obvious. Deron seems tired and unmotivated and its very sad.
@CyborgEugenics Im in the same boat. Never cared much for chad till now, I guess I never gave him a chance. I definitely would like to see a more jam oriented album from them! Fuck the side project bullshit. If you cant make music together MOVE ON!
I guess this is better, even though it sucks. I wouldn't want to listen to a record or a show from a band that is disinterested (Chad with standing). Deron and Jess are giving up, like pussies, and Matt, well he's too new.
Maybe they should talk to Clutch, I know they're good friends with them. Clutch have been around since the early 90s and they still pump out albums and still have that love of being together and just jamming.
Yes there is demand Deron! I love you guys, CKY is probably one of the best bands I've ever discovered, but we want new music because we know we'll love it. Don't let CKY become one of those bands that keeps on touring for another decade or two playing the same old songs over and over.
I'm on Chad's side. Pull it together guys! Be a BAND and work together on this. We would still listen to anything you put out, but I'd much rather listen to CKY, not just Deron, not just Jess, not just Chad, not just Matty J. Is it just me, or do I spy another CKY split in the furture? It sounds like they're heading in that direction again and it's truly sad. My facoirte band for years are kind of sounding like they are giving up.
Separate CD's would be interesting, but I'm Definitely on Chad's side. It depends on the band and the guys (and/or girls) in the band... but you can get some great Real shit by just jamming in a room together.
I can understand why they need this it's been almost 15 years!! they need variety, I like the idea, they do seem kinda irritated, but whatever, all that I know is they are AMAZINGLY talented and im a pround allience member ;) cky forever!!
Everyone thought 5 years ago that cKy was through with all of the fighting. I don't think we will ever see another album from cky for awhile. At least not until Deron gets his head out of his ass and realizes that anything they do from here on out will be because of cky and because of the cky fans. No cky means a very small audience that will follow each respective member's future projects.
i called them out on this before on askcky. they really just dont give a shit anymore except chad. they only go out and play shows to pay the bills. its bullshit man. "where would we start with the jams?" wtf deron. no ones knows where to fucking start. just bring up something youve been messing with and see if jess and chad can click with it. or just start bangin out a couple riffs out of nowhere. believe it or not it happens. get your heads out of your asses
sometimes i think cky are sick of cky..... jess loves classic rock, deron death metal, i think sometimes their not into it as much as they use too. deron obv still wants to do his world under blood thing.... how long that taking?? and their talking bout 4 cds?
the live intro they do for hellveiw..... that came from jamming right? anyone in a band knows music gets produced from jamming! deron is so negative... cky need to be more positive bout stuff, yeah music gets stolen but doing 4 diff cd's.... isnt gonna work, how will jess's cd get made, itll take agess, how will they tour that? for bands these days, touring is the main source of income.. not a project tha'll take so long to make
Chad doesn't wanna do solo stuff and have it titled CKY...did anyone watch the Afterworld video...? Why is everyone still bashing Deron? Jess is apart of this too.
i loved cky vol 1, every album since then has got progressively worse,
bsides and rarities went straight in the trash! BOLLOCKS!
Shittyiest b-side album ever!. chad needs to stop singing and return to being a cunt to everyone its way more entertaining.... CKY Ruined There Own Career, BEYONCE HAS NO PROBLEM SELLING RECORDS IN 2011....
PULL YOUR FINGERS OUT STOP MOANING AND MAKE SOME DECENT MUSIC.
IDR+AAF+CARVERCITY+B&R= 4 OF THE BIGGEST LET DOWNS OF MY LIFE.
@Romagical I feel IDR was also the best, the first is good, but too "raw". IDR from VOL 1 is a huge differance, both good, but IDR has more work involved, I believe.
Spectacular video piece! The most raw presentation of the guys I've ever seen. I'll take this over 20,000 cell phone videos of live shows any day of the week. One of the biggest draws to CKY has always been their personalities, and that's something that's been missing these past 7-8 years - the ability to connect with them as people. Everything's been random whispering behind other band members' backs (over Ask CKY) and second-hand accounts of fights or disagreements they had. THIS is what's up.
Like Chad said, it makes no sense! Why in the world would you release 4 separate CD's? They're a band. If they're struggling or having differences get over it. Don't break up over something silly!
It sucks that everybody steals their shit man, every time they release an album I've bought 4 copies. Fucking pirates ruining shit for everybody else.
CIG has the right attitude on this. i hate to see the band on this path. but dude if they all listen to chad on this, the band would end up finding more success
I dont care how they decide to do it!!! I just do not want them to get pissed at each other break up over bullshit! I think making an album together is the best way to stay strong
Seems like no one's seeing this clearly. It seems like there's some issues in the band again, and that some of them are just fed up and need a break. Maybe the whole idea about the soloalbums is Jess and Deron's way to get their "break" without another fight. There's something going on, CKY's last video.. Deron and Jess aren't in it. I think something's going on..
Stop bitching about everything. I'd like to hear what each member came up with on their own. It'd be interesting to see how they each did it. And you can't bitch at Deron for the idea. I can understand how sitting in a room with your band can be unproductive, I'm guilty of it myself. But I can see it from Chad's point of view, there's no point doing a solo album and calling it CKY. Either way, just enjoy the music and quit bitching, they're all right in one way or another.
I think CKY should try this. It would show the songwriting of all the memebers, but instead of being labeled CKY, it should be their own name. I think that they should do this, and maybe try to make a record after, because this would definetly be a intresting idea.
Dont blame Deron about "ruining" the band. I dont like the idea at all but you cant blame him for wanting to try new things. I agree 100% with Chad I need a new CKY album I love them all. And dont blame Jess and Deron for getting mad at stealing music it is a shame that people do it because I like there music and it hurts them because they arent one of the most famous bands ever. But in the end CKY needs a new album maybe they need a break for a little bit but please CKY make a new album!!
@JakeSmetana all of this new shit about deron replacing everyone is pissing me the fuck off. and chad apparently quit because of this certain video. and i think it was jess that said that one of the members had a drinking problem.
@XIceCubeKillerX Oh wow I didnt hear about that... CKY is one of my favorite bands and now there just fallin apart.. I would rather have Chad, Jess, Matt rather than Deron replacing them
You guys need to remember why you wanted to make music together in the first place, deron is a bit overly pessimistic but rightfully so, chad is on the right track but isn't really taking in some stuff. 4 albums is a clusterfuck idea, a new album is non essential. Focus on the core of the band, no bad ever comes from you guys jamming more. Start small, write a 4/5 track EP, write it during a few weeks of jamming, fresh, new, low risk, what could be better.
John Paul George and Ringo wrote they're own songs and had it under the name of The Beatles. Same is what CKY wants to do. Jess seems to be the one who REALLY wants to do this. Idk why people are bashing Deron.
Deron didnt ruin the band. if it wsnt for him there would be no such thing as cky. i like the idea of solo albums as long as they make new cky records later on
Pretty sad to watch this ... In the same time, I'm really anticipating the WUB album, but just hearing that we wont hear any new cKy soon makes me f-ing pissed.
"theres no demand for that" in reference to recording new cKy material. deron, are you fucking serious? there's no fucking demand? riiiiiiiiiiiiight. that's why all of your supposed "fans" are in demand for NEW cKy MUSIC. what an asshole.
chad is the only one here who actually makes sense. RIP cKy. your time is over. just give it up. here's listening to vol 1, IDR, AACBF and carver city.
Gee for FUCKS Sake I mean I personally don't think Chad is the BEST Band Member of the BAND but FUCK He cares about the BAND and that's what fuckin counts damn You Guys fuck a "SOLO" Record keep togheter fuckin Cky Records and thta fucking it Brothers! FUCK the KISS Shit and fucking get toghetr and make an Damn CKY Record for the fucking FANS GEE!
@corona7extra I think this was filmed shortly after Ryan died. I think he died whilst they where on tour, as one stop was Download festival around the 11th I think...
@FordeBrookfield7 uhh no. that's wrong. wrong wrong wrong. ryan was still alive when this was filmed. they were only in the uk for literally a couple of days
@badassmckeving I'm pretty sure they tour'd and recently finished touring. Why would it take so long to upload this video? I'm sure this was filmed after one of their last gigs, hence all the noise in the background.
Anyway, why do you care about these facts so much? support the band, not the satisfaction of feeling correct. I've not followed cKy for a long time, but I did a few years back.
Some dates may be wrong, or whatever... support the damn band.
I think they are touring Australia
Now
Magnoliablush69 19 hours ago
so does anyone know if they've acc split up? or is it still up in the air? i find it so hard to keep up :'(
annawylde1234 5 days ago
If CKY ever disbands, i will kill myself
WookieNutSack 2 weeks ago
Fuck come on cky y'all kick ass
rancid3757 2 weeks ago
Jess and Deron have a point that it's not worth it to record an album because nobody will buy it, they'll just download it for free. That is a waste of CKY's time, money, and talent. They're not the only band in this position. Why should bands spend the money to record, produce, and distribute an album if nobody is going to pay to listen to it? Other than die hard CKY fans, nobody bought Carver City. Why should the band go through that again? Such a waste.
Rschr101 2 weeks ago
@Rschr101 I think the better question is, why does it seem like money is Deron and Jess' only motivation for making an album? A true artist would just be happy that people enjoy their art enough to even want to observe it in the first place. They shouldn't be mad at the fans for simply sharing with each other freely what makes them happy. They should be upset with our socioeconomic system which forces them to be wage slaves and give up their artistic integrity just to obtain money.
onysacasd 1 week ago 2
@onysacasd Couldnt have said it better.
RahReplicaGrrrl 1 week ago
Deron is killing me. No demand for a new CKY ALBUM?! I'd be kicking down the door to the fucking studio to get my hands on some new CKY tracks. Honestly I grew up listening to these guys and ill be a fan until I die
CkyRioBravo981 1 month ago 7
Sorry guys but seriously - you guys deserve you to be in this together. Sorry but it's just the truth.
animatedfather 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
after making 'World Under Blood' Deron made it pretty clear he wanted to go in a new direction and CKY was not it ... I still love all those guys, just have to appreciate the 14+ years we have of them -- its been one hell of a ride !!!
disengagejam 1 month ago
It kinda sucks because it seems like Deron and Jess lost their passion for CKY. The idea of 4 solo albums sounds cool but even they will do that then what? It doesn't seem like anyone other then Chad really wants a fifth album..
DISSEL1997 1 month ago
:'(
thisisradiooscar 1 month ago
im on chads side, that being said the rest of them should stop being pussies, deron get a harcut and go back to he good days and make good music
ddpunk123 2 months ago
why cant they just do both??? even though I'm more on Chad's side
JaywalkCorps 2 months ago
I love how Jess says it takes way too much money to make an album but in this day and age with the technology that's so widely available to anyone that's simply not true
JKFTW23 2 months ago
C'mon guys. Get your shit together and make some fucking music, TOGETHER
lowery02 2 months ago
Remember when Chad seemed like the crazy one?
UnderUrBlackWing 2 months ago 9
Fuck... They will break up soon.
HOWLLINK 2 months ago
I don't understand how a band could not be in a room and write together. Isn't that they way it should be? Why is Deron acting like it's such a crazy idea. What happened between all of them anyway that they're so set against not really working together? Chad's fucking amazing and needs to find something that will utilize his talents. I say Cky without Deron and start getting shit done.
Leask17 3 months ago
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Leask17 3 months ago
Deron's back on the sauce & back to being a dickheaded asshole
725clem 3 months ago
fuck you deron
ISmellSexandCandy 3 months ago
Can Chad and Deron just butt fuck already? So then CKY can go back to making records every 5 years again.
nikki0919 3 months ago
Theyre all just too lazy to make a record. Chad has the right idea. And didnt Matty J join Hello Cleveland?
nikki0919 3 months ago
this band is to fucking lazy chad needs a new band
TheBigdev23 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Chad sent me here ;)
TheAmericanIdiote 3 months ago
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TheAmericanIdiote 3 months ago
Chad is definitely speaking the truth!
Mechanical015 3 months ago
i think the solo records is a great idea it shows each individual musical styles
KevinCoblerOfficial 4 months ago
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KevinCoblerOfficial 4 months ago
Ginsburg's got the right idea.
Gamescrap 5 months ago
They sound horribly fed up with each other here =[ shame!
Lawrah28 5 months ago
What do they expect Jess to do all he does is plays Drums?!
WolfGuardian01 5 months ago in playlist More videos from ckybloodyalliance
Chad clearly cares deeply about the band and just wants to make kick-ass music. I vote for Chad.
switch360laser 5 months ago 15
@CyrineAmani I definitely have to agree. Seems like Deron has totally given up on CKY, he doesn't seem passionate about it like he used to. I definitely do like Chads ideas, it does work if you get in a room and jam, but everyone has to be open minded about it. Deron doesn't seem to like the idea because he's not feeling the band anymore, so he doesn't feel like it'll work.. It sucks because I've really been wanting to hear some new CKY. :(
1stghostshadow 6 months ago
@1stghostshadow I just think it sucks because Deron is the one who wrote the songs and riffs and his voice is one of the defining features and if he were to leave or somehting and somebody else, Chad, or anyobdy for that matter, it would never sound like it does. and its a shame because it seems like Chad, Jess, and Matty are really into cKy and with Deron the combined talent is so great but without Deron, itd be ehhhh. i think theyd still be great, but not cKy great.
switch360laser 5 months ago
Yeah I have never got to see cKy live... I don't think I will now...
euvi85 6 months ago
I understand both parties ideas and fully support them while understanding where each member is coming from. I don't feel that deron is being whimpy I feel that he feels that he shouldn't have to have the responsibility of creating the skeleton as he calls it of an album it truly can be very stressful while the others sit around and wait. Now I'm not saying that's what Chad and jess (I exclude Matty j due to him not being on any of the previous albums) does but it can really ware ya down when
hairybtr 6 months ago
I think the band is done: this video confirms it for me.
If Jess is worried about his shit getting stolen, then surely the same problem exists for the solo 4-pack (dumb idea).
I think CKY should make one more really fucking amazing record, then call it a day - they're a great band and have had a rocky history but they've clearly got amazing talent.
sjgamble 6 months ago
@sjgamble as much as i think Chan is giving up, and Jess is just worried about money, i think they still care inside. and i dont know, maybe if they made solo albums they could take a little break for CKY they when they got back together they could have a better idea where each other is coming from by seeing the music they make on their own and use it so they can work together and make music with equal resposibilities. but as of right now things arent looking good. and im sad to say but its over
switch360laser 5 months ago
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sjgamble 6 months ago
Watching this I can't help but think of James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich in Some Kind Of Monster. One ego against another.
replacements06 6 months ago
Chad presents: The Room
ninjasweetheart 6 months ago
Sounds like they'll be done soon. :(
Vir4941 6 months ago
I agree 100% w/ Chad. I understand where Jess is coming from, he's got a family to take care of now. Sounds like Matty J just wants to play. But Derron sounds like a bitch. You shouldn't feel like you HAVE to make an album. It's not about demand. It's about wanting to get together and write new music for yourself and your fans. There's no passion there, and I don't think CKY fans really want some piece of shit that's just thrown together. Although, I'm sure they'd take whatever they can get.
trish2885 6 months ago
Chad has the right idea.
FrozenWinterMoon 6 months ago 5
Chad is a dick
LilCeezy 6 months ago
Chad is 100% right.
KTYells 6 months ago 14
the problem i have with cky is the different quality between the cd's and live-recordings..
i always listen to cky-bootlegs instead of the actual cd's,
live-cky is much rawer and cleaner, i dont know why they mix so much sounds in their recordings during the making of an album...
Ritsoz 6 months ago
fuck it, Chad and Matty should just start a band while Jess and Deron complain about doing what they should love to do(make music!) atleast Chad and Matty actually still like making music...
joecorystormshow 6 months ago 2
There's.no.demand.for.that.
jesus deron, you could be no more wrong
kbizzle999 6 months ago
It's obvious that Deron and Jess have no interest in moving forward with the band, which is sad to see being a fan the past 11 years. The lackluster sales of CC and B-Sides must have really hurt Jess judging by his comments. Matty is just trying to play mediator which is expected, and Chad is just holding onto whatever might be left. I knew that something was coming the moment I heard Deron wasn't singing on Afterworld. Sucks for everyone that they are going to go out like this.
JBoogay 7 months ago
If the colaborative process of making song(s) together is a tedious drag, then making music sucks. Reinventing the process of creating something together is the way for this band to survive, the way I see it. Creating something should be fun and rewarding, otherwise trying to create something is doomed before you even begin.
zimonslot 7 months ago
instead of making an 8 minute video going around the subject they should of just been upfront with it and call it off -__-
JordanMikko 7 months ago
@JordanMikko if they did do that you would be demanding a reason
Shizzle0596 7 months ago
this was painful to watch.
flyeaglesfly3620 7 months ago
chads a fucking genius
lanemorse666 7 months ago
i would've never thought a death metal dude could act like such a wimpy chick.. you're fucking rock dudes wtf is the problem - sit down and make the brilliant music you make..
jess always goes to that insane rant about 'illegal' downloading - it's music, you get paid to tour and play gigs and shit, it's been like that for atleast 15 years, get over it, you should be happy that anyone ever even downloaded your stuff.
dudemandudebro 7 months ago
Uhhhhhrrrrrr. This is going to take some time to digest.
sren74 7 months ago
what did Jess mean about stealing the record?
xF3AR3D 7 months ago
@xF3AR3D People download the music illegally
Reidii182 7 months ago
I'm siding with Chad on this one, he seems to know where to take the band, he wants to create CKY music instead of combining the other member's own music into an album.
The1979Warriors 7 months ago
Thanks for all the music, CKY. It was fun while it lasted.
HurricaneXR 7 months ago
Chad sent me here.
mrxd17 7 months ago 2
Deron is, and always has been, a giant dick. Shame, he's not even all that.
Leahy66 7 months ago
I don't know if another album would be right. When I look from the beginning right up to Carver City/B-sides and Rarities, they are all genius albums with some of the best music around in my opinion, and I think B-sides and Rarities is a good end to an awesome career of making such amazing and ground-breaking music. I would personally love to see solo work from Deron and Chad, and remember CKY as the awesome music right from Camp/Vol. 1, to IDR, up to B-sides and Rarities and everything between
JDRobins100 7 months ago
@JDRobins100 lol keep up. you're not going to be seeing any of this by the looks of things..
badassmckeving 7 months ago
@badassmckeving Nah dude i know, but i'd really like to see this happen
JDRobins100 7 months ago
Also I know Jess really hates downloading music illegally, and im not gunna defend the people who do, but thats just how it goes these days. It shouldnt stop you from making and releasing music. I would hope that the music means more to you than the money.
I think if everyone wants to write solo stuff, then go back on hiatus and make solo albums, dont force each other into writing six songs for a deadline then making CKY fans pay for all four albums together when one might suck
searchwarranttube 7 months ago
I have to side with Chad. Carver City was great as a "comeback" record, B-Sides was probably well timed to come out now. But I think another CKY album should come first before anything else. The four album thing is a cool idea, but as Chad said, Deron has literally just done one, and theres the thing with what would Jess do? Im not doubting his musical ability, but would it just be a Clutch wannabe album? Also we havent seen what Matty J brings to recording? As a lifelong fan I want a new CKY cd
searchwarranttube 7 months ago 2
Go get (buy $12 @fye)World Under Blood. Reminds me if cky was metal.
ckyokc 7 months ago
I love Chads attitude. He seems to be the only member to really care about CKY.
haydengrayfilms 7 months ago 2
cont. Letting people download your music freely is the best way to get your music out and promote yourself. If your music is truly good, people will buy your merchandise, tell friends about your band and go see you perform. Basically if you like what you download, then support it. Look at the band Nylithia, they are realeasing their album completely free. Its not the fault of the artist asking for money, or people sharing what they enjoy. The true underlying problem is the monetary system itself
yllierutube 7 months ago 37
@yllierutube How is the monetary system the underlying problem if an increase in piracy is hurting bands like CKY?
And releasing some tracks for free is a good way to promote yourself, but when it costs a certain amount of money to produce and distribute music and the majority of your following torrents the product, you can lose money and the incentive to create more music.
There's also a difference between sharing music you like with a friend, and uploading music to an online torrenting site.
merykwalker 4 months ago
This new idea sounds retarted. Didn't they already do side projects like Jess's TCB and Deron's WUB. Chad & Matt have yet to make anything. Also, sharing is not stealing! Copying an album creates something, not steals it. And if people who download never had the money to buy the album in the first place, then the artist isn't losing something they were never going to get. A true artist motivation is making great art and letting as many people enjoy it as possible, not making lots of money.
yllierutube 7 months ago 38
@yllierutube they don't have money to buy a song, but they can afford the internet connection and their computer?
merykwalker 4 months ago 2
@yllierutube
Copying creates? Seriously? That's funny. When I create something, I typically have an inherent sense of pride in what I've created. Somehow, whenever I've downloaded music, I've never felt the same sense of pride. Weird.
waddsworth 4 months ago
@yllierutube What's also funny is that you (clearly NOT an artist) are trying to tell people who are artists what their motivation should and should not be. Worry about yourself, and how to not be such a parasite that has to steal what others create. Looks like the only thing you've created are a bunch of shitfully flimsy justifications for stealing.
waddsworth 4 months ago
@waddsworth it's depressing that his comments are top rated
merykwalker 3 months ago
@yllierutube "Retarted." You don't have any right to call someone else's idea "retarted" when you can't even spell the word correctly. It's spelled "retard," you fucking retard.
CorporateNothing 3 months ago
@CorporateNothing ha-ha, thanks Captain Spellcheck for courageously pointing out spelling errors on youtube... I'm sure no one could have ever figured out the difference. I guess now that you solved that conundrum, you can go back to doing your other douchebagery.
yllierutube 3 months ago
30 minute drum solo... That's what Jess would do.
hairlikeafox 7 months ago
cont. (kid hit send on my phone). Deron and Jess seem like they don't care anymore... Maybe it's because they have families or whatever. I just miss CKY 5 years ago...
nanceattack 7 months ago
Depressing. This cky and cky 5 years ago are not the same band. They look worn out. Jess and Du
nanceattack 7 months ago
Deron and Jess sound jaded. Deron sounds like he is tired of doing most of the work. Well Deron you are the lead guitarist and singer...a lot of the songs/albums revolve around your approach. And Jess....people will steal your music for the rest of time. You say you hate working hard on a record because someone will steal it. Whatever happened to working hard on a record because you want to make great music?
deathckyvalley 7 months ago
say I wouldn't be interested in what they all come up with by themselves. This is my first impression of Matty and he seems like a really cool, level headed guy. I welcome him. I grew up with this band, I have always, always been so ecstatic when they announced a new album. Even if they don't continue, I just want them to do well, be recognized, because they fucking deserve it. (2/2)
DamagedWill 7 months ago
This video is a little hard to watch. I really don't blame them. Especially Jess' side. It's not him "wanting money", it's the fact that they all try so damn hard at what they create and people don't appreciate it enough to buy it and support them. I totally get that. Deron seems... weary, worn. Not surprising in the climate of music today. Chad seems motivated which is a good thing to see, glad to see Chad is still firing full cylinders for Cky, his idea I like the most, not to (1/2)
DamagedWill 7 months ago
new album pleaaassseee.......why not?
shit i would wait another 3 years for a new album!
bamissue 7 months ago
new album pleaaassseee.......why not?
bamissue 7 months ago
whats up with deron these days he looks like shit and seems super depressed
ollygee 7 months ago
@ollygee
He's always like that. Between "Answer can be found" and "Carver City", Deron tends to throw one big alcoholic hissy fit
hellofaname 7 months ago
JUST MAKE ANOTHER RECORD, WE DON'T WANT SOME WATERED DOWN SIDE PROJECT CRAP! If you can't make music together, why are you in a band together?
Acting like Carver city was a hard listen, every CKY album is brilliant, just keep doing what you have always done!
skotyb 7 months ago
ok deron and jess dont even know wht the fuck there talkin about, deron needs to stop acting like a little bitch and just make a new album and stop tlkin about doin a solo cd package cause who wants to buy that i know i wouldnt we want a band album!! its what every one wants is a new cky album, and chad is probably the only one in the band that is keeping them together, chad needs to beat the shit out of them to make em realize that there idea is dumb as fuck!
gerbs95 7 months ago
i'm with chad on this 1
MyWeedgrower 7 months ago
There's no demand for another cKy record? What the fuck is deron talking about
pgcky1207 7 months ago 3
Really interesting. Thanks for this. I gotta say the 4 solo albums idea is really lame. CIG has the right idea here. I know they all seem not to like each other haha, but he's right.
shmoedaddy1 7 months ago
This shit makes me a sad fucking panda
rozzer1142 7 months ago 9
Chad has the right direction. Why does Jess want more money?
Bam has enough for all 4 of them.
Gratefu1Dead420 7 months ago
cKy is such a kick ass band for them not to make another cKy album would be so so sad to see. chads idea is best and i think that if they did do it it'd be like hearing them for the first time all over again. KICK FUCKIN ASS!!!!
KNIFEtheCORPSE 7 months ago
chad has the most heart at this point, and it's upsetting because Deron has basically given up already, jess is following in his path and matty j is trying to hold it together. i agree with chad, because he's the only one really making sense.
biancerrful 7 months ago
man this is a depressing video... I'll tell you what I will follow Chad after Cky breaks up because he is the only one who has any sense. Isn't that how you make good music get in a room together and jam it out?? Deron and Jess need to quit being little pussys, suck it up and do what they do best, make music for the fans.
playthewater 7 months ago
@playthewater i couldnt agree more with you., you basically are thinking the same way as me. chad's the only one making sense at all. and matty j is neutral about it, but he agrees more with chad.
biancerrful 7 months ago
@biancerrful Matty j is neutral only because he doesn't want to be kicked out or loose friends in something he just joined. When I think CKY I only think CIG, Jess and Deron... Deis (bass) was a great addition to Cky, Whatever happened to him offically?
playthewater 7 months ago
@playthewater
Matty J doesn't have to be kicked out, from the way CKY is going. It they keep up the way it is now, the band will unfortunately break up, and Matty J will be another (4th) former bassist of the band
hellofaname 7 months ago
Anyone else have a bad feeling that we won't get to hear another album from cky?
projektanarchy 7 months ago
@projektanarchy a very bad feeling
biancerrful 7 months ago
I've always felt like Chad was my least favorite member for some reason, but in this video I see him in a new light. He's the only one with the love still... and its obvious. Deron seems tired and unmotivated and its very sad.
CyborgEugenics 7 months ago
@CyborgEugenics Im in the same boat. Never cared much for chad till now, I guess I never gave him a chance. I definitely would like to see a more jam oriented album from them! Fuck the side project bullshit. If you cant make music together MOVE ON!
Rickshaw199 6 months ago
I guess this is better, even though it sucks. I wouldn't want to listen to a record or a show from a band that is disinterested (Chad with standing). Deron and Jess are giving up, like pussies, and Matt, well he's too new.
harrism84 7 months ago
It's kind of sad to think that Chad is the only one who seems interested in actually keeping the band whole.
SammyVengeance 7 months ago 2
Chad knows what's next. Deron's too worried about what's happening in LA.
JeremyCKY 7 months ago
quitters.
harrism84 7 months ago
Chad is right on the money in this video.
DaWickerMan 7 months ago
I also agree with Chad.
Maybe they should talk to Clutch, I know they're good friends with them. Clutch have been around since the early 90s and they still pump out albums and still have that love of being together and just jamming.
HurricaneXR 7 months ago
@HurricaneXR Couldn't agree more!
FordeBrookfield7 7 months ago
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HurricaneXR 7 months ago
Yes there is demand Deron! I love you guys, CKY is probably one of the best bands I've ever discovered, but we want new music because we know we'll love it. Don't let CKY become one of those bands that keeps on touring for another decade or two playing the same old songs over and over.
HurricaneXR 7 months ago
Never seen jess down like that... And deron seems like he just dont give a shit :- must be most depressing video at youtube......
sprayedi 7 months ago
I'm on Chad's side. Pull it together guys! Be a BAND and work together on this. We would still listen to anything you put out, but I'd much rather listen to CKY, not just Deron, not just Jess, not just Chad, not just Matty J. Is it just me, or do I spy another CKY split in the furture? It sounds like they're heading in that direction again and it's truly sad. My facoirte band for years are kind of sounding like they are giving up.
TheNameIzJonas 7 months ago
Separate CD's would be interesting, but I'm Definitely on Chad's side. It depends on the band and the guys (and/or girls) in the band... but you can get some great Real shit by just jamming in a room together.
CjGuitarist82 7 months ago
I can understand why they need this it's been almost 15 years!! they need variety, I like the idea, they do seem kinda irritated, but whatever, all that I know is they are AMAZINGLY talented and im a pround allience member ;) cky forever!!
pnh92 7 months ago
Everyone thought 5 years ago that cKy was through with all of the fighting. I don't think we will ever see another album from cky for awhile. At least not until Deron gets his head out of his ass and realizes that anything they do from here on out will be because of cky and because of the cky fans. No cky means a very small audience that will follow each respective member's future projects.
dr.diabetez
p8ntslngr13 7 months ago
i like chads idea, but whatever you guys do, ill support it :) CKY fan till the end!
rocker91352 7 months ago
i called them out on this before on askcky. they really just dont give a shit anymore except chad. they only go out and play shows to pay the bills. its bullshit man. "where would we start with the jams?" wtf deron. no ones knows where to fucking start. just bring up something youve been messing with and see if jess and chad can click with it. or just start bangin out a couple riffs out of nowhere. believe it or not it happens. get your heads out of your asses
bl00dr3dxxx 7 months ago 2
sometimes i think cky are sick of cky..... jess loves classic rock, deron death metal, i think sometimes their not into it as much as they use too. deron obv still wants to do his world under blood thing.... how long that taking?? and their talking bout 4 cds?
gregoryallum1 7 months ago
the live intro they do for hellveiw..... that came from jamming right? anyone in a band knows music gets produced from jamming! deron is so negative... cky need to be more positive bout stuff, yeah music gets stolen but doing 4 diff cd's.... isnt gonna work, how will jess's cd get made, itll take agess, how will they tour that? for bands these days, touring is the main source of income.. not a project tha'll take so long to make
gregoryallum1 7 months ago 2
Chad doesn't wanna do solo stuff and have it titled CKY...did anyone watch the Afterworld video...? Why is everyone still bashing Deron? Jess is apart of this too.
fudgehead333 7 months ago
i loved cky vol 1, every album since then has got progressively worse,
bsides and rarities went straight in the trash! BOLLOCKS!
Shittyiest b-side album ever!. chad needs to stop singing and return to being a cunt to everyone its way more entertaining.... CKY Ruined There Own Career, BEYONCE HAS NO PROBLEM SELLING RECORDS IN 2011....
PULL YOUR FINGERS OUT STOP MOANING AND MAKE SOME DECENT MUSIC.
IDR+AAF+CARVERCITY+B&R= 4 OF THE BIGGEST LET DOWNS OF MY LIFE.
deathmetalzebra 7 months ago
@deathmetalzebra
are you stupid?, IDR was their best album, vol 1 comes second.
Romagical 7 months ago
@Romagical
not stupid.. just stating my own thoughts... ;)
deathmetalzebra 7 months ago
@Romagical I feel IDR was also the best, the first is good, but too "raw". IDR from VOL 1 is a huge differance, both good, but IDR has more work involved, I believe.
FordeBrookfield7 7 months ago
I would much rather them do a new CKY album...
G0DB0Y25 7 months ago
Spectacular video piece! The most raw presentation of the guys I've ever seen. I'll take this over 20,000 cell phone videos of live shows any day of the week. One of the biggest draws to CKY has always been their personalities, and that's something that's been missing these past 7-8 years - the ability to connect with them as people. Everything's been random whispering behind other band members' backs (over Ask CKY) and second-hand accounts of fights or disagreements they had. THIS is what's up.
ckyrico 7 months ago 2
Fuck yeah, Chad.
MrGinsburg 7 months ago
Like Chad said, it makes no sense! Why in the world would you release 4 separate CD's? They're a band. If they're struggling or having differences get over it. Don't break up over something silly!
ShowTheVans131 7 months ago
I hated Chad for that whole Afterworld video, but I'm totally with him on this one.. they are a band none of this individual shit
poisongirl666cky 7 months ago
cig reminds me of a 1964 john lennon jewish pirate. i like him.
plzmvaway 7 months ago
It sucks that everybody steals their shit man, every time they release an album I've bought 4 copies. Fucking pirates ruining shit for everybody else.
stormsbear 7 months ago
CIG has the right attitude on this. i hate to see the band on this path. but dude if they all listen to chad on this, the band would end up finding more success
Chemikill92 7 months ago 2
Deron is a douchbag. He's the Troy Duffy of rock.
BlackMarketMovies 7 months ago 2
I dont care how they decide to do it!!! I just do not want them to get pissed at each other break up over bullshit! I think making an album together is the best way to stay strong
CKYHIMRHCP 7 months ago
Seems like no one's seeing this clearly. It seems like there's some issues in the band again, and that some of them are just fed up and need a break. Maybe the whole idea about the soloalbums is Jess and Deron's way to get their "break" without another fight. There's something going on, CKY's last video.. Deron and Jess aren't in it. I think something's going on..
Mynameiseirill 7 months ago
Stop bitching about everything. I'd like to hear what each member came up with on their own. It'd be interesting to see how they each did it. And you can't bitch at Deron for the idea. I can understand how sitting in a room with your band can be unproductive, I'm guilty of it myself. But I can see it from Chad's point of view, there's no point doing a solo album and calling it CKY. Either way, just enjoy the music and quit bitching, they're all right in one way or another.
electroTROLL 7 months ago
I think CKY should try this. It would show the songwriting of all the memebers, but instead of being labeled CKY, it should be their own name. I think that they should do this, and maybe try to make a record after, because this would definetly be a intresting idea.
D00dWhoPlaysGuitar 7 months ago
Dont blame Deron about "ruining" the band. I dont like the idea at all but you cant blame him for wanting to try new things. I agree 100% with Chad I need a new CKY album I love them all. And dont blame Jess and Deron for getting mad at stealing music it is a shame that people do it because I like there music and it hurts them because they arent one of the most famous bands ever. But in the end CKY needs a new album maybe they need a break for a little bit but please CKY make a new album!!
JakeSmetana 7 months ago 8
@JakeSmetana all of this new shit about deron replacing everyone is pissing me the fuck off. and chad apparently quit because of this certain video. and i think it was jess that said that one of the members had a drinking problem.
XIceCubeKillerX 7 months ago
@XIceCubeKillerX Oh wow I didnt hear about that... CKY is one of my favorite bands and now there just fallin apart.. I would rather have Chad, Jess, Matt rather than Deron replacing them
JakeSmetana 7 months ago
@JakeSmetana yeah all the shit is on ask cky
XIceCubeKillerX 7 months ago
@XIceCubeKillerX On there website or what?
JakeSmetana 7 months ago
@JakeSmetana yes, sorry this is all fucked up i cant put the link
XIceCubeKillerX 7 months ago
@XIceCubeKillerX Is it on there website or something??
JakeSmetana 7 months ago
You guys need to remember why you wanted to make music together in the first place, deron is a bit overly pessimistic but rightfully so, chad is on the right track but isn't really taking in some stuff. 4 albums is a clusterfuck idea, a new album is non essential. Focus on the core of the band, no bad ever comes from you guys jamming more. Start small, write a 4/5 track EP, write it during a few weeks of jamming, fresh, new, low risk, what could be better.
Sronpop 7 months ago
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John Paul George and Ringo wrote they're own songs and had it under the name of The Beatles. Same is what CKY wants to do. Jess seems to be the one who REALLY wants to do this. Idk why people are bashing Deron.
fudgehead333 7 months ago
Deron didnt ruin the band. if it wsnt for him there would be no such thing as cky. i like the idea of solo albums as long as they make new cky records later on
lopli321 7 months ago
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fudgehead333 7 months ago
Pretty sad to watch this ... In the same time, I'm really anticipating the WUB album, but just hearing that we wont hear any new cKy soon makes me f-ing pissed.
filthyabsurdity 7 months ago
hahahaa CKY on steroids, gotta love jess
MEGAGORE 7 months ago
Chad all the way. i love deron a lot but he's gonna fuck this up. Deron is gonna make World Under Blood is main music priority again.
bstrickvids 7 months ago
"theres no demand for that" in reference to recording new cKy material. deron, are you fucking serious? there's no fucking demand? riiiiiiiiiiiiight. that's why all of your supposed "fans" are in demand for NEW cKy MUSIC. what an asshole.
chad is the only one here who actually makes sense. RIP cKy. your time is over. just give it up. here's listening to vol 1, IDR, AACBF and carver city.
ochsbeatdown 7 months ago
Gee for FUCKS Sake I mean I personally don't think Chad is the BEST Band Member of the BAND but FUCK He cares about the BAND and that's what fuckin counts damn You Guys fuck a "SOLO" Record keep togheter fuckin Cky Records and thta fucking it Brothers! FUCK the KISS Shit and fucking get toghetr and make an Damn CKY Record for the fucking FANS GEE!
ILoveJLH4Real 7 months ago
Chad <3
gronpetflaska 7 months ago
yo call up dico to sing for you chad or jess that would be sick, wooodoo
DynamoDylan 7 months ago 9
I can see the pain in Jess' eyes, they're all coping with the loss of Dunn and it's just piled on top of their problems.
Come on guys, support this band, I've looked upto them since I was a young, young lad myself.
Support cKy.
and Ryan Dunn, forever rest in Piece!
Thumbs up for CKY to see we're behind them.
FordeBrookfield7 7 months ago 2
@FordeBrookfield7 i'm pretty sure this was done while ryan was alive
corona7extra 7 months ago
@corona7extra I think this was filmed shortly after Ryan died. I think he died whilst they where on tour, as one stop was Download festival around the 11th I think...
FordeBrookfield7 7 months ago 2
@FordeBrookfield7 uhh no. that's wrong. wrong wrong wrong. ryan was still alive when this was filmed. they were only in the uk for literally a couple of days
badassmckeving 7 months ago
@badassmckeving I'm pretty sure they tour'd and recently finished touring. Why would it take so long to upload this video? I'm sure this was filmed after one of their last gigs, hence all the noise in the background.
Anyway, why do you care about these facts so much? support the band, not the satisfaction of feeling correct. I've not followed cKy for a long time, but I did a few years back.
Some dates may be wrong, or whatever... support the damn band.
Support cKy.
Ryan Dunn... R.I.P.
FordeBrookfield7 7 months ago 2
@FordeBrookfield7 um, fuck off, you boring bitch. you're still wrong.
badassmckeving 7 months ago