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  • typical liberal, always throwing in the race card

  • This is misleading. The biggest racists were the southern Democrats. The KKK was full of them. Lincoln was a Republican. And only Massachusetts Republicans opposed Vietnam in the beginning.

  • @CloeBuckingham Yeah well America was allied to the insurgents in Afghanistan 30 years ago to stop the Communist threat and invasion but times change,

  • @wei495 dropthedash(dot)com

    The Democrats about about dividing people into groups and then wooing those groups.

    It's just so bigoted.

  • (resumed)LBJ introduced the 1964 act saying "I'll have them N*ggers voting Democrat for 200 years. He opposed all civil rights bills up to this one-even ones that would have stopped lynching.He was a racist who used this legislation to gain political power.ALL of the leaders of the segregationist movement were DEMOCRATS and MOST of them STAYED Dems - contrary to liberal MYTH, they did NOT become Republicans.Today they ENSLAVE our brothers by passing out "free" goodies-just like a drug pusher.

  • If children were taught the truth, our black brothers would be voting conservative.

    Democrats founded the Klan. The Republican party was FOUNDED on eliminating slavery.

    Republicans fought for every civil rights bill in history, Democrats BLOCKED or tried to block every single civil rights bill in history.

    LBJ, opposed Eisenhowers Civil rights bill and got any meaningful enforcement measures taken out - even though it was very similar to the 1964 bill that he later introduced (saying -- cont)

  • This video is retarded because the majority of Democrats voted against the Civil Rights act of 1964 while the Republicans voted for it. That being said, both sides are shills for the banks and should be overthrown ASAP

    M-26-7

  • @Exclamationpointisim - so show me some racist replublicans and I can show you just as many racist dems.

  • @seanmsimon "racist" dems are usually people who are afraid of situations which may affect them financially, which is why they may be against welfare type of bills. they are educated, yet still show a degree of ignorance as to how a problem should be solved. they aren't actually racist...now if you want to meet a TRULY racist person its is FAR MORE LIKELY that you will find one under the republican wing, as they cater to the fundamentalist Christian side.

  • @Exclamationpointisim - Yes and why did 3 of my racist democrate neighbors not want me to sell my house to blacks?

  • @seanmsimon when talking about white people, political affiliations tend to vary significantly. in case you didnt know, the housing market is very controversial. did you know that most states determine property value by various measures, including income, number of people in a neighborhood and the NATIONALITY that they represent? which in theory, if two neighborhoods, almost identical in income were measured against each other, the one with the least amount of minorities is worth more?

  • @crankdatbatman23 - I gave you an example of a personal experience. You came back with a "usually" and no facts, evidence or personal experiences to back that "usually" which implies (most of the time). Those neighbors were "racist" & yes, also concerned about property value. As for as house values. That is interesting. I did not know that "States" determine home values. I'm a licensed Texas Realtor and a Real Estate Invester. I know many appraisers as well as have one who is a personal friend.

  • @seanmsimon dont need to use evidence because 1) ive already done my research 2) most of the things im saying are common sense and 3) if its not common knowledge to you mr.realtor or anyone else im doing you a favor to let you do research on your own time. not saying you're lazy, this is youtube, im just saying my piece so if you wan to know more just go look into it. all i know is in MY state(IL) corrupt zoning policies affect schools, new buildings & the real estate in a neighborhood. its sad.

  • I thought you said "personal experience" should not apply. But IL is you "personal experience" and is not "the norm".

  • The Republicans of today are not the same as the Republicans of Lincoln's day. A very strong minority in the republican party has pursued it's power by stoking ethnic and economic fears within it's voters. The powerful laugh all the way to bank, while the white middle and rural class is scared shtless. Keven Phillips, a Nixon strategist put it this way in 1970 "Negrophobe whites will quit the democrats and become republicans. That's where the votes are."

  • This is the only type of political communication liberals can comprehend.

    Keep it simple...you need to. haha.

  • @scottbotics

    I think you're missing CHAOSoriginal's point. In those days, the Republicans (who, as you said, were lead by Abraham Lincoln) were the Liberals and the Democrats were the conservatives. That turned around in the sixties and seventies. That's exactly what CHAOSoriginal said. I'm not sure if you were supporting or dissagreeing with him, but you reitterated what he said.

  • The Republicans were once the Liberal ones and Democrats the conservatives. Now it's the other way around and that's why more African Americans choose to vote Democrat. Not to mention the Democratic party cares more for the middle class.

  • @CHAOSoriginal It's also funny that the Republican party(led by Abraham Lincoln) was the first to actually oppose slavery while the Democrats where varying from indifferent to advocating it.

  • @scottbotics funny how the republicans have sinced switched from liberal to conservative.

  • @scottbotics It's even funnier how Republicans like you choose to be ignorant and live in the past, citing examples from more than a century ago.

  • @scottbotics back then republican were liberal and democrats were conservative

  • @scottbotics Dont forget the Democrats barring all Pro-Civil Rights legislation during the 60's

  • @scottbotics That was 150 years ago, back when the Republicans were liberal and the Democrats were conservative. For one, Abe Lincoln is thought to be agnostic, meaning that the Repubs couldn't have possibly have been conservative like they are now, since there's a basic rule that you have to be a fundamentalist Christian and a young earth creationist to be a Republican politician. Also if you don't believe me that the Repubs used to be liberal, read up on Theodore Roosevelt.

  • @TheoreticChaos - Dude. conservative doesn't mean "Christian". Or White, or Racist, or Homophobe. Where is this "Basic Rule" you refer to?

  • @seanmsimon Majority of Republican politicians are like that. Remember the 2008 presidential campaign where a man asked Republican candidates if they believed in evolution and most of them said no? That shows fundamentalist Christianity, and if majority of party's people would be like that, I think it's safe to say that majority of the party is like that. Nearly all of them stand for fundamentalist Christianity. They were voting the other day on making "Under god" the motto for hell's sake.

  • @TheoreticChaos - OK, for argument's sake let us say they are all "Christian". How is they bad?

  • @seanmsimon I think having leaders who hold the future of scientific funding in their hands who reject proven scientific reality is very very bad. I'd assume anyone would feel that way. Being Christian isn't really bad, but being a fundamentalist who makes public statements like "the earth is 6000 years old" or "evolution is a hoax" is just sad, and frankly, dangerous, if our leaders are like that. It's basically the promotion of backwards thought, and the reject of all scientific logic.

  • @seanmsimon dont get me wrong, being strong about religion is not frowned upon especially if there are moral views that are portrayed via religious ideology. however, religion is, in most cases, science's paradox, which can completely cloud in someones mind what is fact and what is spiritual intuition. the ones who are all mixed up in the head are the whack jobs who burn Qu'rans and advocate other stupidities "in the name of god". those guys, my friend, are the racist fucks that we all despise.

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  • @crankdatbatman23 - is that the magority of "Christians"?

  • @crankdatbatman23 - What about the "Piss Crist" and people like this guy "/watch?v=zH-Ew8apncM"? Guess they are scientific right?

  • @seanmsimon "personal experience" should not apply to every concept explained to other people. does everything i have to know have to be via personal experience? no. lets show some intelligence here. & as for this link you posted...do you really think this guy is a genuine voter that ANY political candidate tries to go for? this dude is just trying to get a rise out of people, and he is out of the norm. /watch?v=XDmaFehshys gosh, terry jones really puts christianity in a positive light here.

  • @crankdatbatman23 - I said "personal experience" OR "evidence" OR "facts". So, 'usually" and "norm" are personal opinion unless backed with facts. Look up the work intelligence. I guess I must have misunderstood. Maybe I don;t really understand things. Maybe these facts I have in my mind are all screwed up. And maybe the State determining house values is something I should just take your word for. Sorry. I will let you win this one.

  • @scottbotics yeah but the two parties switched ideologies later on in U.S. history

  • @qin654 correct. democrats eventually championed the Civil Rights Bill in the 60's, by that point fully making the ideological switch more public than before

  • @scottbotics But we all know too that Republicans back then was the Liberal Party. Conservatives whether Republican or Democrat cared almost nothing about civil rights.

  • @scottbotics Its also funny that ignorant people like you dont realize that the definition of democract and republican has changed over time. The democrats back then (like Andrew Jackson) were for states' rights and slavery while the republicans (like Abraham Lincoln) were for limited states' rights and were against slavery. Obviously, republicans of today are for states' rights and democrats are more for limited states' rights. Therefore, Abraham Lincoln would be a democrat today.

  • @jgmm322 Yes, your logic is impeccable. Since democrats have changed positions on one issue they MUST by neccesity have changed position on other issues. It's too bad we don't have brilliant people like you in office. Haha.

  • @howser12 Your comment is so out of context. I was addrressing another comment made about SLAVERY, which is why it was perfectly logical for my comment to pertain to SLAVERY.

  • @jgmm322 Actually, Lincoln wold have probably been a republican today. He was about giving people Life and Liberty. Last time I checked, abortion refers to an abortion of a life.

  • @scottbotics LINCOLN WAS REPUBLICAN!?!?

  • @scottbotics True, although its funny how you can remember the Lincoln was a republican, yet you failed to mention the republican and democratic party"s motives switched

  • @K3LL33MICH3LL3 They never really did. The only real progressive we ever had was Woody Wilson, a democrat. Then there was JFK, a personal hero of mine, who was a fairly liberal man, and there was FDR, who tried to create the insanely unconstitutional new deal. No, Republicans have always believed in what they have believed in, and Democrats have always been liberal, always been supported by the communist and socialist parties, and always passed big government laws.

  • @scottbotics ha ha. You know what else is funny? You forgot to mention that after Lincoln's presidency, the two parties switched, thus making the modern Republicans the racists and the democrats the opposers to racism. Funny how many Republicans don't know that. Just goes to show how stupid you guys are.

  • @123ArcticIce321 Can you put a date on when they switched? The biggest racists, George Wallace and Strom Thurman were Democrats. Segregationalists are Dixiecrats.

  • @scottbotics the democratic and republican were very different back then

  • democrats in power = republicans in power

    two parties, same thing

  • theres a reason the sign of the democrats are asses.

  • @JellayToasT And what reason would that be?

  • It's ironic that historically, the Democratic Party was much more responsible for the oppression of African Americans.

  • "We've been through a lot together" By that he means they were the people to enslave African Americans. Us Republicans don't understand their connection because we didn't enslave vast groups of people like the Democrats.

  • fuck the democrats. They are stupid inefficient morons. If you ever choose to buckle down and succeed in this world you'll understand why people vote republican. Morons.

  • @jonny366 "I would rather be a man of value than a man of success." - Einstein.

    You guys are successful because you are willing to rob everyone within the law.

  • Hahaha Tiger Woods.

  • you forgot martin luther king jr.... but i guess hes not too important to the african americans.....

  • Dyn-O-Mite!

  • The KKK was democrat

  • @KINKYG11242

    Most KKK members vote GOP

    Just because there was a group who did horrible things, it does not mean that every thing about them is connected to those deeds. KKK also spoke english, so I suppose that if you speak english then you are like the KKK? It is not the democracy (sp?) that causes them to be racist so them being democrats has no influence nor any connection to current democrats.

    For example Hitler was religious but that doens't mean religion is evil.

  • @nielso212

    Circular, non logical arguments. The KKK was founded by the Democrats, so yes, Democrats did have something to do with it. The Democrats ran on platform after platform that supported slavery and then segregation.

    Also, recently deceased Democrat Robert Byrd, who holds the record for being in office longest, was not only a member of the KKK, but was a high ranking official in the KKK's leadership. Just this year, he was called the "Conscience of the Senate" by Democrats.

  • @mcdonalsuny

    The KKK was also founded by christians so christians had something to do with the KKK then by your logic?

    I'd like to know your source of the information about the Democrat Robert Byrd, could you send me your source?

    Also please answer my previous question (see previous comment)

    P.S. I do not see how my arguments are circular, could you please put my arguments in a circle pattern so that I may gain better understanding on how my arguments support themselves?

  • @nielso212

    That is precisely what I mean by circular, non logical arguments. Thee KKK were Christians so Christians have something to do with the KKK?

    A car has four wheels, there fore everything with four wheels is a car? A bird has two legs, there fore everything with two legs is a bird? Doesn't work out too well does it?

    As for my source about Robert Byrd, it's called common knowledge and historical fact. Google it, there are thousands of sources, take your pick.

  • @mcdonalsuny

    Ah THOSE arguments, I was making those to show you how ridiculus your comment was stating ''The KKK was democrat''.

    Thank you, ill be looking through google

  • @mcdonalsuny

    Alright! Looked up a bit of info about Robert Byrd, and it is indeed true that he used to be a KKK member though he distanced himself from the KKK later on (Still wouldn't want a guy like that in the goverment though) however he was NOT called the Conscience of the Senate, this was actually the nickname of Philip Hart. He was however nominated to be president pro tempore BUT only because this position is giving to the longest sitting member by tradition!

  • wow! really pulling out the card, "All republicans hate everyone that isn't white"!?! hahaha wow, i thought you guys finally understood that that is not true, and just makes you seem stupid. wow! good job putting your foot in your mouth!

  • Democrats don't have a clean slate when it comes to race in America. Don't believe me? Look up history. We are all being played for fools by the Democrats and Republicans. Both parties have skillfully mastered the art of deception. One plays the bad guy who favors the big guy and the other plays the good guy favoring the little guy. Big government is a bunch of bad guys playing all of us. If there are good government guys and girls, why are they so quiet? Wake the hell up America.

  • I would also like the point out that all Civil Rights issues previous to the CRA1964 were progressed almost exclusively by the Republican party. The last great Civil Rights accomplishment was the CRA1964, which the Democrats like to claim because of LBJ, although LBJ had no jurisdiction over it. Although, the majority of Democrats voted against the CRA1964, so again, it was progressed by the Republicans, like all previous civil rights accomplishments.

  • The only civil rights accomplishment since the CRA1964 was Amnesty granted to Illegal Immigrants in 1986, again, by Republicans. With that said, since the Democrats claim to be the One and Only force behind the progressing of civil rights, what have the Democrats actually accomplished for the rights of minorities?

    Let me remind you that the Republican Party was founded on the principle of Inalienable Rights for ALL, while the Democrats have stood in the way through their history.

  • republicans are stupid and are in bed with big business.

    democrats are communists who will say anything for a vote.

    in short, they both suck

  • Thats what we call a House Nigga.

  • ..... get your shit straight dude.. you don't know anything about history/politics if you think that this even comes close to anything logical or intelligent

  • s145611: FYI - over 54% of Blacks in America are in the Middle class. They have an education and despite the fact that 2/3rds vote Democrat, Most hold conservative values. Unfortunately, they don't hold their elected officials to that standard.

  • the way the black vote is split is very much the same way any vote is split in terms of income levels. I'm not being racist when I say blacks have a larger percent of their population in low-income than whites. But the reason why the black vote is skewed democratic is because of the fact that most of them are poor. Middle class and higher, they tend to vote republican.

  • all you republican inbreed hillbillies get out of my country!

  • We have two very serious problems in this country: the Republican party and the Democrat party. Both parties are equally evil and stupid, and they both want to make their psychotic and radical beliefs law. Republicans want to commit wars against random countries, and democrats are all smug and think they are intelligent and want to force political correctness, gun control, and a controlled economy on other people.

  • Actually were really not war lovers

  • What has the Republican Party fixed?

    Slavery (as opposed to Democrats, who were originally for it)

    War on Terror: no terrorist attacks on home soil after 9/11 under Bush's watch

    Suffrage for Blacks

    And a host fo other things I'm too darn lazy to research.

    I'm not even a Republican---

  • The argument about slavery is absurd to anyone with basic knowledge of American history. Republicans were the liberal party in the 19th century. Democrats didn't become the liberal party until early in the 20th century. Abe Lincoln would most likely be a Democrat today.

  • Finally someone reasonable

  • Yeah, but some racist fag from Texas passed the civil rights act because he thought blacks would be stupid enough to vote for the last person to say something good.

  • It is insulting to call me an African American just becuase of the color of my skin. I'm an American!! And what does it mean to "speak my language". What century are they living in. I speak English!!

  • No one calls me European-american because my great-great-great-great-grandf­ather was born in Europe Why do they call you African-American.(BTW I'm republican)

  • Statesman Ron Paul is one of the few leading men in the Nation who can lead the U.S. on the Wise & Prudent Path to American Strength.

  • Its also evident in everyone of these videos they try to make the democrat look more like the "common" middle class man in casual clothing and the republican look high class to appeal to more people

  • I dont get why democrats make it their objective to try and humiliate right wingers. From the media to even sesame street its really pathetic. Im a conservative but i dont go out of my way to rip on liberals, it doesnt accomplish anything, it just frustrates people

  • How belittling to African Americans.

    WTF why do you call them African Americans?

    They are American citizens. Their skin is black. Get over it. That goes for African and British Americans. Or European Americans or whatever you fucking call yourselves.

    And stop using the word 'liberal' to refer to Democrats, socialists and statists.

    Republicans are liberal, they believe in freedom from the state. IE LIBERAL!

    DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH?

    Admittedly British so-called Liberals arealso statist

  • HAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAS UP MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Faget as Republican OWNEDD

    XD

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  • The guy that made this video should watch machosauceproductions' videos.

  • It pretty sad what are world has become....instead of being what USA is suppossed to represent: liberty, trust, loyalty; we fight over who is better, republican or democrat. Its like a verbal civil war. People need to stop writting racial, rude comments. Writing these ridiculous comments makes you look juvenial.

  • Funny. I thought it was the Democrats who opposed the 14th and 15th amendments. I thought it was the Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

    I thought it was the Democrats who founded the KKK. I thought it was the Democrats who have a senator who was in the KKK that is STILL in office (Robert Byrd).

    I thought it was the Republicans who had the First Black Secretary of State and the first and only black Joint Chief of Staff.

    Funny how that works.

  • And a republican president that ended slavery.

  • @mcdonalsuny

    The views of the parties have completely changed since the creation of the KKK, so therefore, it would be incorrect to use that as an example.

  • Not as funny as how you think ALL of us are obliged to be in the KKK just because some racist bigot senator is.

  • @mcdonalsuny

    The old Democratic party is not the same as the modern Democratic party. Everyone who used to be a Republican supporting Civil Rights and such eventually became a Democrat.

    Byrd, btw, is a rare exception. He's one of the only Democrats of his time to not switch parties. And he definitely regrets joining the Klan, which he was in for about a year.

  • @nafaidni

    Reference recent racist comments by Joe Biden , Hilliary Clinton , and Harry Reid. . Reference Helen Thomas' comments in regards to Israel. Read those, then come back and see if you can that again.

    Also, if Byrd was only in for a year (joined in 1942), then why did he write the KKK Grand Wizard in 1947 saying the following? ""The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation."

  • @mcdonalsuny - GREAT POST.

    Who the fuck gave Democrats the mantle of "racial tolerance" anyways? Answer- they gave it to themselves, appropriated it for their own benefit. Total hypocrites.

  • @mcdonalsuny What don't you STFU you inbred,delusional racist idiot! You have your head up you ass and have all kind of proofs,but when someone (LIKE ME) want to show how much of a lying scum you are you block me! Be a man and face the facts that modern day Republican's racism surpass 10 to 1 racism in the Democratic party! Republicans of today=Southern Democrats of yesteryears it's one and the same.They're self centered,Dogmatic,oppressive,r­epressive,Xenophobic,RACISTS,H­ateful,LYING SCUMBAGS!

  • @giggilamour

    ROFL - Standard Democretin response.

    Lets see, who is the racist here? Who is playing the race card without knowing a damn thing about the other person? I'm automatically a racist because I'm a Republican? I got news for you, idiot. I'm African American.

    Look at your comments and ask yourself, who is being xenophobic, hateful, lying and racist? The answer is obvious dear. LOL.

    And you wonder why I blocked you? ROFL.

  • @mcdonalsuny What a fuctard ! What an in denial, lying full of shit idiot ! I can name EVERY REPUBLICAN as racists!Dig in their background and you will find something hateful,repressive,offensive to other races or social groups!Including BLACK REPUBLICANS. I give you Clarence Thomas.No need to say more.Most if not ALL of you so called religious repressed liers point fingers at others,I give you Bush the war starter ,or Cheney the Ethnic cleanser as examplesmultiply that by ALL=Republic Party!

  • @giggilamour

    Very humorous, if not typical Democrat rhetoric. You accuse of being hateful and racist, but isn't it you who is accusing EVERY person of a certain group of a specific behavior? Do you even realize it? Is bigotry your middle name?

    In denial? Who is in denial dear? Dig into the backgrounds of Joe Biden, Hilliary Clinton, Harry Reid, Robert Byrd, just to name a few. All high level LEADERSHIP of the Democrat party, each OPENLY racist. But we're the ones in denial?

  • @mcdonalsuny You should talk rhethorics comming from a party full of dogmatic douchebags!Your Chairman I talk shit nonstop STEELE stated that he felt "Weird" as a black man among his own Party.Cubans and other racist hispanics ARE NOT MINORITIES!They're WHItES labelled "Hispanics" by racist White americans.They see themselves as "WHITES"".So The "Republic party is comprised of 1/2 of 1% of minority.That should tell you the true nature of Your Party. Republican Appoint Less than 1/2% blacks.

  • @giggilamour

    ROFL. So the racist exposes herself for true now I see. Hispanics are not minories now? What about the Asians I listed? They aren't minorities either?

    So what you are saying, blacks are the only minority? Wow, that is one of the most racist statements I've ever heard, even worse than Reid's "Obama got elected because he's light skinned and without negro accent" comment.

  • @giggilamour But, I have to thank you. You proved my point better than I ever could. Democrats, including black democrats like you, are just as racist, if not more so, than they always have been.

  • @giggilamour

    First Black Secretary of State, First Black Female Secretary of State, First and ONLY Black Joint Chief of Staff, First Black Governor, First Hispanic Governor, First Asian Governor (repeat for Mayor, Senator, Congressperson). All Republican. But we're the ones in denial?

    Do us a favor giggliamour, take your hate-filled, propaganda filled mind elsewhere. You must be sad, having so much hate in your life. I recommend a professional therapist.

  • @mcdonalsuny Condy was a puppet and as far as her accomplishments she was the fall guy,the only articulate member of a group of monsters,war starters,cold blooded killers,economy destroyers,mass murderers,liers,con men(Bush and Cheney),and she was the defender,the talker that explained out all the atrocities those 2 shit heads commited!May they burn in hell!1st this and first that,Bill clinton cabinet had 100 times MORE minorities than both Bush's PLUS Regan combined. Let's NOT talk about Obama.

  • @giggilamour

    And yet ... we still have this issue about all the openly racist comments by Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Harry Reid? Yup, they can make all the racist comments they want, because idiots like you will say "Oh, that's OK, we're not the racist ones, they are". Uhm, wake up? Hello?

    Seriously, between just those three I can find half a dozen, if not more, video documented racist comments. But that's okay, because they're Democrats, right? Unbelievable.

  • @giggilamour

    You see everyone, this is how brainwashed Democrat drones are. Clinton's cabinet had 100 times more minorities than both Bush's AND Reagan's combined.

    Lets see, Minorities in Clinton's Cabinet: Espy, Slater, West.

    Minorities in Bush's Cabinet: Powell, Rice, Chao, Martinez, Jackson, Mineta, Paige.

    You see, I don't even have to list the minorities in Reagan's cabinet to prove this drone wrong.

    Giggilamour, try this for a change, do some reason before you open your mouth.

  • @giggilamour

    Just as point of reference. I can post very recent comments by nearly everyone in high level leadership positions within the Democrat party. Biden, Reid, Hillary, etc. The very top brass of the Democrat party don't even attempt to hide their open racism anymore.

    Lets see, I've named Vice President, Secretary of State and House Majority Leader of the Democrat party as having recently racist statements. Can you find Republican VP, SoS, or HML with racist comments? Nope.

  • @mcdonalsuny Fanatism and self delusions are what Republi-CONS are about.I can guarantee you That I have no racist bones in my body.I can also guatantee you that you are a dogmatic,dictatorial douche like Bush the war starter, the cause of destruction of million of lives,livelyhoods and infrastuctures in foreign countries.Shoving what you think of as truth down everyone's throat and forcing them to swallow are your forte.Distorting FACTS to suit your evil agenda are your expertise.ENOUGH SAID!

  • @giggilamour

    Uh huh. You don't have a racist bone in your body. You accuse an entire group of diverse individuals of a specific behavior, bigotry and prejudice pure and smile. You further go one to say that Blacks are the ONLY minority, excluding Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, etc etc etc and so forth.

    Here's a friendly hint: When you want to accuse a group of people of a specific behavior, don't repeat the same behavior yourself. Bye bye.

  • @mcdonalsuny What an IDIOT!When did I ever say that Blacks were the ONLY minorities you Republic lying scum! I know stretching the truth comes natural to you bigots,but not to me.What don't you enlighten everyone of the ratio of blacks,asian,hispanics etc..,that are ACTUALLY Republicans.In Florida the Cubans have a love affair with the "republic party",in part because a lot of "WHITE" cubans are very racist and in part because they view Republicans as Castro haters!So what your percentage huh?

  • @mcdonalsuny you obviously need to need to read a history book the democratic and republican party aren't the same as they were in the era of history you are referring to. In the time of ratifying the 14th and 15th amendment the democrats were the conservative party while the the republicans were the liberal party. &seeing that the divide between D/R is really liberal/conservative today's dems would be yesterdays reps and today's reps would be yesterdays dems.

  • @TBAL285

    Yup! I agree 100%. They have totally switched places. That's why Clinton (Dem Secretary of State), Biden (Dem Vice Pres) and Reid (Dem Senate Majority Leader) are all on record, video recorded, as having said extremely racist comments all within the last few years.

    Yup, the LEADERSHIP of the Democratic Party has really changed. But what ever helps you sleep better at night.

  • @mcdonalsuny yes 3 quotes, i'm sure i can get you an entire list of racist things republicans have said. (and an even bigger one if you count homophobic comments) But the fact remains that liberal polices by and large have been much more minority friendly than any conservative ones.

    And lets not forget the anti-hipanic charge lead by the republican party today as well as thier anti-muslim agenda.

    But hey whatever helps you feel superior.

  • @mcdonalsuny yes 3 quotes, i'm sure i can get you an entire list of racist things republicans have said. (and an even bigger one if you count homophobic comments) Also while you can list off handed comments I can list R approved campaign ads Anywas fact is liberal policy is much more minority friendly than conservative policy.

    And lets not forget the anti-hipanic charge is lead by the republican party today as well as an anti-muslim agenda.

    But hey whatever helps you feel superior.

  • @TBAL285

    Alrighty then. Just 3 quotes, there are more, but that's all I needed. So, since it is so easy to find racist quotes, find me a RECENT racist quote by a Republican Secretary of State (Oh right, the recent one was Black), a Republican Vice Pres and a Republican Senate Majority Leader.

    Oh yeah. If you actually check, the gay marriage issue is bipartisan, why don't you check your own politicians voting records on that before bring it out. You might be surprised LOL.

  • @mcdonalsuny no actually anti-gay marriage is a conservative postion. No matter who votes for it is conservative. Just as if a democrat is a deficit hawk doesnt make it a liberal position. nice try tho.

    Well lets see dick cheny voted to support the apartheid Dubya wiped his hand off after shaking hands with a black person in hati.

    But lets be honest the real leaders of the reps right now are the shock jocks like Beck,Limbaugh,and Hannity. And that list would be just waaayyyy to easy.

  • @TBAL285

    Yeah, that's how you drones like to twist something. "The issue is conservative, it doesn't matter if 100% of liberal democrats vote for it, it is conservative, so lets blame the Republicans". Classic. I noticed how you failed to provide those video clips you were challenged for as well?

  • @mcdonalsuny tsk tsk tsk don't know much about politics do we? Political stances are by defined as cons/lib. Lib and con are two separate and well defined sets of ideologies that are separate from the person. Thus while a dem can vote for a stance that is conwithout changing the definition of that said stance. For ex would a dem voting pro life make pro life a lib pov? no

    Political positions are not defined by the ppl that take them but the ppl that take them are defined their positions.

  • @TBAL285

    Okay mate, lets try some common sense here, something you appear to be incredibly lacking. You say something is a "conservative" issue. However, if the voting records are straight down the middle, democrat/republican and conservative/liberal ... then it isn't really a "conservative" issue, now is it?

    You are simply apply the label conservative to it in an effort to pin blame on the oppose group. Very dishonest of you I might add.

  • @mcdonalsuny Liberal and Conservative are 2 separate well defined political ideologies. Much like capitalism and socialism are separate economic ideologies.

    If someone calls himself a capitalist than enacts socialist policy does that policy does not become capitalist. Such the same that if a self proclaimed liberal takes a conservative stance it does not make said stance liberal it simply makes the person conservative.

    You are befuddling political ideologies with political parties

  • @mcdonalsuny as for reid's comment while a very stupid thing to say not really racist. seeing as there is a black or negro for to some from the older generation dialect. and yes he is light skinned due to his white mother.

    i take this more as an honest look at the political landscape if obama was dark and talked not the mainstream dialect he would probably scare off some of the more conservative leaning independent whites.

  • @TBAL285

    Uh huh. "only got elected because he is light skinned" Nope, not racist. "Obama is the first African-American who is articulate and bright..." Nope, not racist. "You can't walk into a 7/11 without an Indian being behind the counter" Nope, not racist. "You might remember Mahatma Gandhi, he ran a gas station" Nope, not racist.

    exampleurl com / whatever

  • @TBAL285

    And... Just FYI, if you are going to pretend you know politics well enough to talk down to someone about the there being a difference between liberal and conservative, why don't you do a more adequate job.

    Lets take myself for example. I'm Socially Liberal and Fiscal / Military Conservative. George W Bush was a Military Conservative and Fiscally Liberal. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion (Republican/Democrat) that we are having. Kthx.

  • @mcdonalsuny and you seemed to miss the point of my last posts. you seemed to think that the stance a someone takes seems to define the stance. but the stance defines the person.

    and yes i know that everyone isn't a conservative/lib about everything and tis why I don't like the two party system. As of now it just seems rep and rep lite.

  • there is no such thing as a fiscally liberal, you are either an idiot with other people's money or you aren't.

  • @TBAL285

    You, like many before you, have apparently made the mistake into thinking that a conservative is conservative about everything, oh, and a Republican, while a liberal is liberal about everything, oh, and a Democrat.

    It is exactly that type of mentality that leads to the extreme polarization we keep seeing in politics. The Far Right is in power, then the Far Left, swinging farther and farther each time.

  • @mcdonalsuny Wow there are different areas where ppl can be lib/con. Thanks, for enlightening me.

    But yes the defining trait between dem/rep is the con/lib ideology. So as i said before the dems of reconstruction would be today's rep and the reps of of reconstruction would be today's dems.

  • @mcdonalsuny I would love to see multiple parties that could give a better voice to each part of society than forcing for ex you to choose between the the conservatives that share your millitary/fiscal policy and dem's liberal-ish social policy.

  • @TBAL285

    Okay, here's the thing. Whilst I do disagree with much of what you have to say. You actually seem like a reasonable and intelligent individual. This is a debate I would love to have, but youtube is rather an inadequate forum for, with this 500 character limit. I tend to reserve these shorter posts here for extremists wackos (Like gigglamour).

    But, I'll leave it with one last thought, then if you could care to continue in email, feel free to email...

  • @TBAL285

    You cite reconstruction as the period of "transition" where the parties switched places? In 1960 (well after reconstruction), the vast majority of Dems voted down the CRA1960. 4 years later, barely just enough Dems voted for the CRA1964, still the vast majority of Republicans voted FOR it.

    So, if the parties flipped during reconstruction, then how do you explain that nearly 100 years after reconstruction, Dems were still voting against civil rights and Rep were voting for it?

  • @TBAL285 Also, the reason why I pointed out the inadequacy of defining something as liberal/conservative in this scope is... A Conservative Republican has a very different political stance than a Conservative Democrat, while a Liberal Republican has a very different political stance than a Liberal Democrat. In that context, it is the Democrat/Republican different that is vastly more significant than the conservative/liberal leanings.

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  • @mcdonalsuny please the illegal immigration problem reaks of xenophobia. (see: Arizona's sb1070) oh and please the anti Muslim charge is seen everywhere from emphasizing Obamas middle name and from cons saying hes a secret muslim. Oh and want anymore proof that cons are doing this go to a tea party or just watch this campaign ad tiny. cc/bnkbb

    Sure are there some off handed comments by some dems. But those guys you cited have done more 4 minorities than the entire GOP

  • @TBAL285

    Oooo, it is xenophobia! That's what you drones like to say while ignoring the drastic increase of drug violence spilling over the borders, kidnappings, weapons trafficking, the list goes on and on and on.

    P.S. Arizona's law? You mean ... the law that is almost a word for word replica of the federal law already on the books that just isn't enforced, but Arizona is now actually enforcing federal law by passing a state law?

    You really are brainwashed, aren't you?

  • @mcdonalsuny yess it is very much xenophobia. Xenophobia has been a recurring pattern for all immigration groups since the founding of this country. for example the know nothing party among many others.

    PS. Yes the Arizona law that is now in line with a federal law only because of the provisions that were not were blocked by Judge Susan Bolton

    You really are misinformed aren't you?

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    P.S. Comment removed  to fix a typo. Don't get paranoid ;)

  • Anyway. Are you done attempting to change the topic a hundred different ways from sunday? Seriously, why is it that when you talk to a liberal about one topic and they are getting soundly out debated, they change topics. This is, what? The third or fourth topic change? I wouldn't mind really, if I wasn't aware that it is nothing more than a distraction tactic.

    Soooo, any luck coming up with those videos of racist Republicans I requested?

  • @mcdonalsuny actually I have not been the one to change topic, you have merely taken issue with some examples I have put forth.

    And yes you can easily find george bush vid of wiping his hand after shaking a black persons hand, i also provided you with the link (in tinyurl form you have to add the "." as utube doesnt allow links) to an outright racist campaign commercial.

    However my original point still remains lib political policy is by and large friendlier to minorities than cons.

  • of course Democrats don't pretend that 'rednecks' and southerners in general aren't even human beings constantly right?

    Of course it is ok to support the South African genocide going on right now right? It isn't blacks who have to worry about the govt or a political party being against them, it is white people who don't even have a way to defend ourselves

  • @mcdonalsuny furtheromore the quotes you give as an example are kind of a stretch to call them racist, clintons remarks could be belittling, it sounds to me more like a comment on how relations of race has improved. (oh and that quote was not on video just and alleged quote paraphrased in a campaign book)

  • why because you said so?

    Maybe the judge blocked parts of the federal law using this legislation to actually water down our federal immigration law illegally.

  • how about a political party doing something for whites for once...

    I know it is shock, but maybe Republicans or even Democrats could try it, instead of one party being completely anti white and the other doing absolutely NOTHING about it.

  • @ultimatetalesfan19 buhaha holy bajeezzus your hilarious!!!! umm political parties have been doing crap for whites for a long time? And white people defenseless? Yep all of those white people yelling down the black construction worker wearing a skull cap because they thught he was muslim sure looked defenseless

  • no you idiot, actual legislation that would make things equal instead of just keeping whites out of the hate crimes protection bill(oh wait that would cancel out the bill because ONLY straight white people aren't included...), maybe they could at least let people know the truth about hate crimes in this country and inform kiddies about the zebra murders in school, as well as stop ignorantly shouting 'Never again' when South Africa's genocide is 100 times worse than Sudan...

  • @ultimatetalesfan19 oh and by the way buddy im from Louisiana. and by the way helping out minorities isn't anti white

  • no, going against whites is anti white, which is what Democrats make a living off of...

    Destroying the first amendment when it comes to white people speaking out against affirmative action in various forms and using union teachers to destroy white pride while promoting black pride(which causes a black supremacist society to be born).

    but I get it idiot, according to you if you stab a white person 20 times and then give a homeless black person food you are 'helping minorities'.

  • @ultimatetalesfan19 meh im not a fan of hate crime legistlation but to try and tell me that there are more whit middle class straight christians are getting killed out of racial hate than other minoritesis laughable. Oh and dont pull a Dr. Laura people telling you off isn't destroying first amendment rights. First amendment rights only give you the right to say what you want it wont stop you from getting punched in the mouth over it.

  • I don't have to tell you, you should already know based on the extremely biased govt sites that can no longer ignore the truth.

    It is laughable that you can say there are more blacks or any other minority being killed than whites, it isn't even close.

    I guess I can punch the NAACP leaders for comparing the tea party to the KKK right? Sorry, but you are completely ignorant of reality and I am walking all over you, this is why I say the parties should help white people we have less rights easily

  • @ultimatetalesfan19 so yeah any sources none?? yay thanks. and no i dont think any racial minorities at this point in time, its mostly gays and muslims. eg hey taxi cab driver are you muslim? yep. bam slit throat!

    and no i wouldn't compare the tea parties to the kkk it much more if a cult.

  • yep, sure there are just millions of Muslims being killed(source?).

    They get HARASSED if they are unlucky, while Muslims KILL Christians in Muslim countries.

    Try the FBI website for a source...

    Nobody is killing gays or Muslims, they just go through what whites and Christians go through at a more minimum level on a daily basis.

    If anything gay whites are killed because they are white, not because they are gay and that will continue to grow when you 'help' minorities.

  • @ultimatetalesfan19 oh I did just link you ot that and 65% of offenders are white and yes they do that in other countries that aren't as advanced as ours socailly so yeah christians did the same damn thing when they were more primitive.

    And no one kills muslims!!?? yeah right, just last week a cabbie got slashed b/c he was a muslim. and plz turn on a tv all you get is muslim bashing b/c of a damn community cntr

    and no ones killing gays? actually 1,437 people were killed for not being striaght

  • nope, not really, but you can keep thinking that.

    If Christians treated Muslims half as bad as the other way around when they were more 'primitive', there wouldn't be any Muslims left anymore.

    Christians are guilty of destroying pagan religions, not Muslims.

    As for Muslim bashing, sure. All I see on CBS, ABC and NBC is the bashing of poor little innocent Muslims. LOL

    As I said, gays are most likely killed by blacks for being white too and they don't bother to include that in there.

  • @ultimatetalesfan19 hahahahahaha holy shit hahahahah. omg really just really. ahem one word crusaades, but yes not necessarily by the anchors but check out those anti mosque guys that have been on latley. And no, if they were getting killed for being white it would be filed under anti-white not anti-gay.

  • oh yes the crusades, it is amazing how a few wars can equal thousands of years of treating Christians like shit when they feel like it(of course you know nothing about Islam, so I won't even bother).

    and about the anti mosque guys...they are actually supporting the liberal rewording of the first amendment to include the separation of church and state while the govt makes exceptions for Muslims(can you say voting block?).

  • @ultimatetalesfan19 yeah you can pretend you know religions and that christianity is somehow less violent then all of the others. But hey thinking your sky god the best is cool for sheep i guess.

    how is the mosque a seperation of church and state issue!!!??? your just a goddamn idiot people have the consitutional right to build whatever place of worship they want. it is not being built on government property.

  • it is now being subsidized by the govt...sorry.

    and I don't pretend I know religions, I DO know them.

  • and last wk I am sure some white college student was killed like usual without a trace of media coverage...as usual.

    If you take the FBI's statistics at face value, then you really would have to agree that black on white crime is nowhere near represented in both legislation or in public awareness, 45.9% is HUGE compared to 0% mentioned in history books or in the media.

    The only place that you can actually learn if a black on white crime was because of hate or not is the internet.

  • @ultimatetalesfan19 funny you shoud bring that up because crimes with white victims get disprootianatly way more press and the reason the muslim guy getting slashed was such huhe news because of the codabra house

  • unless it was a white person who committed the crime against another white person...um no.

    You never hear a reporter or news anchor tell you that a crime was a hate crime against white people, even if they know it was because they have to create the false image of black angels and 'white devils' to guilt trip white people into giving away more of their rights.

    case in point, Duke Lacrosse rape case completely canceling out a real hate crime in Knoxville...

    you can't win on this

  • @ultimatetalesfan19 aww are we quiet now that the FBI has shown that 45.9 percent of racial based crime offenders were whites and 65% were black. GOD I LOVE IT! telling me to try a source that just proves me right.