Incredible. Whether you believe God created this directly, or just created a universe in which such beautiful things are possible, or you don't believe in God, you gotta appreciate this.
Look at this! There is no way these chemicals, I mean, divine particles, can assemble by their relative electrical affinity into structure, nor can they subsequently improve upon themselves due to DNA's slight margin of replication errors.
I learned all this in a biology class that was taught in Spanish, and I don't even know Spanish!
. . .and they say all this happens without the participation of an active intelligence and wisdom, which the sensible, those who have the eyes to see and the ears to hear and a heart to know, call God
@28janya22 God never told us how it worked.. We had to find out by ourselves. And we are still finding more and more. It has nothing to do with intelligence. Those cells that didn't have this unique mechanism of proteosynthesis are GONE. It depends on environment, what species can sustain and which can not. There are millions extinct species that didn't have the ability to live in given environment. It is NOT THAT SIMPLE. Educate yourself and don't post rush comments ending with God excuse.
@28janya22 You did not mention any relevant statement regarding this subject. What do you mean by intelligence? There are meteorites that hit one another, stars that are exploding, bigger fish eating little fish, your body is in constant battle with bacteria and viruses. What's the purpose of floods? To drown people? What's the purpose of hurricanes, earthquakes, erupting volcanoes, lightnings? To kill people?
The fact that we are finding out by ourselves is clearly and precisely because of this same intelligence and wisdom. The fact that something depends on the enviroment for survival; some surviving others not, does not in any way take away from the fact that intelligence and wisdom, are behind the phenomenon. No machine is made without a thinker or thinkers thoughts. One can perceive "thinking" behind these activities of these little molecular machines.
Now, the "thinking" of the chemical forms/cells maybe an instinctive one, or an automated one, but that does not negate the fact that "someone" or "something" has put all this into place. This is "that simple." And I must thank you for making me think. :)
Send me the link. I love to know more. More power to Neutron star, (I think you writing Neuron star is a typo? I have never heard of a Neuron star. ) for/if it is producing complex living molecules. Wisdom and intelligence at work again;! remember, Wisdom and Intelligence = God, we can also add other attributes to this being, phenomenon, the whole etc.
. . . and we/science are merely "discovering" these things, we/science has not "created" them. There is a definite difference in the created objects themselves and the discovery of those objects.
how can science explain the quantum mechanics to its full potential, it can;t it is limited, it only works on the frequency that we are governed to the ocupied space we are in. its time to move on and find our 6th sense. start learning CYMATIC and how to apply it on our DNA to reach full evolution. and that way we will open our 6th sense.
science cant explain how a jellyfish can think when its got no brains. evolution cant explain their ways, nature shows their survival = growth + protection. only common it has between plants (which are simple) and animals (more complex) is there reproductive ways. clearly they are driven by a 6th sense. Which mean they connect to the source. proof that cell THINK. KYMATICA is real. science lover eat that! nature lovers eat that. evolution suckers eat tha
@MrJoebrada you've been smoking waaaaayyy too much weed, firstly, science HAS explained how Jellyfish survive, they dont "Think", as you said they have no brain. Instead their underside absorbes nutrients from the water. Their movement is caused by their nervous system which respond to external stimuli. Don't preach if you have no idea what your talking about :)
kymatics goes through natural person. why it doesnt exist anymore in everyone, who controls that. where science comes in (our 5 senses) , where religion comes in (the 6th sense), where history backup the secondary info is false, and how you use science to evolve properly by enlightenment through know the source, not the old christian crap, 2150 is the next date of a messiah, messiah only come on this earth to tell us to let go stop using out energy on protection cause we fear everyday. TY
i would rather stand by a jesus belief than a full scientific blinded fool. thats my neutral support for alexjr2.
PivAd123.. ya need let go of your fear and put your energy into love. its you people who bring cancer to this world, its you people who will not survive cause as you know is biology.. survival = growth and protection... your protection is well to high (thats you protecting yourself from fear, you have to growth. therefore you will not evolv. tell me about 28 DNA blocks. professor
Wait, you're like this annoying woman in Donnie Darko. Offtopic, but whatever.
I do not have any form of fear in me? You're making an assumption that all I know is biology.
And no, it's people like you who bring cancer to this world. Science is there for the development of humanity, for a higher chance of survivability and to live a better life.
wow you already put yourself to a new level, you use words like hippie. lol. shows a bit about your intellect, you are bliss in your ignorance, suppress your feelings, let the tyrannies of today rule you, you only portray the image of someone who has very little self esteem, i forgot, maybe if you were to believe in a god, i bet the one you would believe in the a made up god by the science world that has low self esteem. lol
@MrJoebrada I'm, to be honest, speechless at people like you. I am too annoyed and tired of typing shit at people like you, then it ends up into a deeper debate.
I believe I am wasting my time here, I'll go back to my studies.
Nice meeting you, Kymatica was interesting, although it seemed more like a conspiracy documentary.
wow you said you get sick of typing shit., that reflects on your self esteem, i bet it also reflects on your unconscious behavior too. too bad you don't meet eye to eye, cause if we did, i would see very little in you, and i would have yo enlighten your negative life. if science can't meet consistent results in proof then it is flaw. and if science can be restricted by the cults that run these corporate tyranny that run the world, then your science is defiantly flawed. OPEN YOUR EYES
Eh, whatever. Have fun with your life, and I'll go with mine. I can't really be bothered arguing such topics like this, hahahaha. (which to be honest i'm not good at)
Too bad the narration is missing on the last bit. I'd like to renarrate this, except using the big words this time, (like Uracil, seriously, U?) Also I'd like a high quality copy of this to do it on.
It would be a awesome movie for my college biochem class afterwards.
Brilliant retort. "Your opinion dissatisfies me, close your mouth, I decide when you talk. However, if it was one I agreed with, I wouldn't be saying this." Keep approaching the world like that, and everything'll work out fine for you. The Internet is where people go to post their opinions. You posted yours, I posted mine. It's called an "Ongoing dialogue."
If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Then make your own. The video is called "Molecular visualizations of DNA." Maybe you should've read the title before clicking it and then calling it shit?
It's actually quite beautiful and is happening in your body right now. Not that you'd care. You don't even care enough to read video titles.
If you are a truth seeker, search "Truth Contest" in Google and click on the 1st result, then open The Present and read what it says. Everyone needs to see this. The Present will turn this world right-side up if it reaches enough people. You will see what I mean when you read the first page.
@EmperorOfMars Very few people say that. Most of the controversy recently is a response to dishonest 'Christian' 'scientists' who've been claiming they have proof of God and very rudely dismiss any evidence that doesn't fit their little nutshell. The scientific model allows for a wide range of beliefs, it's just not very tolerant of the idea of ongoing divine intervention.
@JustinMShaw Nah, it just seems like the universe is inclined for life to develop and evolve. If think about it life as we know can only exist because the fundamental consistences of nature allow it. So it just seems very unlikely that it all happened by chance. Then again you could also argue that we can only discuss this because it happen. Oh well, back to zelda
I heard solfeggio tuning forks cure dna look up 528 hzg solfeggio tuners i believe. Ever heard of it? Ancient technology I learned about from a musician
I do like to remind people about respect. It reminds me of old arguments that the Egyptians could not have built the pyramids; must have been aliens. On one hand that's acknowledging the awesome construction of the pyramids but on the other it's an insult to the Egyptians. Similarly to say that this stuff is so amazing that it must have been designed is acknowledging how amazing it is, but it's also an insult to the universe. And a little narcissistic too since we design things.
@JustinMShaw But DNA is unique in our world. Pyramids could or could not have been built is just a technical debate, while building a cell is totally a different issue. Nature doesn't have intelligence; it could only build stars, planets, and mountains which contain no orderly information. If you change even one block in a certain gene, the whole thing will go wrong.
@ddhjxcl We don't know that DNA is unique our world. We have neither explored the full extent of this planet or any other. We also don't know that nature doesn't have intelligence. Our history makes clear that we are very bad at even defining intelligence and at recognizing it in animals. We also cannot use information theory to tell us much about genes, since we cannot confirm that we're identifying all the information. Too many assumptions in your reply.
@JustinMShaw Well, I don't think it's as dramatic and insulting as you make it out to be. One has to wonder about things. I think it's just fine include the possibility in a debate in order to strengthen the 'real' side thru dedicated investigation. It's a normal tendency of the mind to make of phenomenal qualities some force it doesn't yet understand. I think that is there for a reason…though at the risk of much woo woo being invented as a result.
@bhaktalex Yeah, when I say it's an insult to the universe to assume it couldn't come up with life I don't mean that we're in danger of offending it, I just think it makes us look very, very foolish.
There are endless layers of contemplation with these kinds of origin questions. Even if you accept God there comes the question of what created God, or if God is eternal then why the timing on the creation of the world. The people who came up with modern secularism were mostly believers, but they didn't accept divine intervention. They saw that as a sign of a clumsy imperfect God. Modern ID is arguing for divine intervention. The arguments go back as far as we can see.
Questions…how do all the components know they are being summoned? How does the ribosome know to got to the RNA string to start making a protein? How does the RNA string know to move out to the outer cell? I mean, these aren't people with brains, so what drives them to their respective places. As much as we can use the assembly line analogy, there's always a human in an assembly line making sure things flow properly to where they need to be. So what is the 'force' that's making that happen?
@bhaktalex The simple but not entirely satisfying answer is that this is the way the molecules in the cell work. They don't 'know' to go anywhere or assemble anything any more than water 'knows' to flow downhill. The 'force' you're asking about is mostly magnetism. They get pushed and pulled in various directions that change as the molecules move. A long-ago analogy was that of a mechanical clock. If you delve deeper into smaller realms you quickly run into the strangeness of quantum ideas.
@bhaktalex I want to ask exactly the same questions! I think maybe the first cell was designed by aliens from another planet. It is very hard to believe that nature could produce anything like this spontaneously.
@ddhjxcl Well, aliens or not, we'd be asking the same question because aliens would have cells too :) I think the mysteries of this whole universe are to be understood by the law gravity (attraction) and magnetism (attraction as well). It's quite simple to see how these forces are responsible, but how this forces come to be, that's still a work of genius…or simply genius phenomenon. I think I'll think about this on a shroom journey :)
@bhaktalex Just a wild guess, aliens don't necessarily have cells. They might be other forms of life which can be generated spontaneously in universe. Another incredible fact is that DNA contains huge amount of information in it. Nothing else in our world has information except for man-made computers. More importantly, that information could be copied and transcripted into functional materials. I can't imagine nature itself could do those things.
@ddhjxcl Hmm…interesting point. We're very much like super machine/computers. All other matter 'seem' much simpler in it's architecture. Don't crystals hold information? I thought everything was information :-\
@bhaktalex Why crystals can hold information? I suppose information should have order. For example, the sequence 1223334444333...contains four kinds of blocks, and all of the blocks are arranged in an exact order. If change even one block, the whole sequence will lose its meaning. Could crystals contain such information?
@ddhjxcl well, have you seen the TED presentation with the young Theoretical Physicist who surfs and has been putting together a theory about sub-sub atomic particles. As he reveals the order of the particles, it becomes apparent that all is 'information'. keep in mind #s are theoretical representations. Here's the link: (oops, can't send link…google "Garrett Lisi on his theory of everything") let me know what you think.
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Wow! isnt it amazing how a few amino acids floating around a swamp arranged themselves into such an orderly and complex system, i wonder if i left a load of bricks in a pile, would they build themselves into a house...
@Johnbag7 If the bricks were all magnetically charged in very complicated ways and surrounded by other bricks that were very particular about how they could be arranged the chances are very good.
@JustinMShaw Magnetism creates information!? HAHAHAHA!! The crap some people are willing to believe to avoid the notion that there may be a God who created them both astounds and amuses me, quite pathetic.
@Johnbag7 I wouldn't say it creates information, but it does dictate how atoms interact with each other. The information argument you're talking about comes from the fools who ignored the nature of atoms to come up with the lie that it was impossible for atoms to form life without divine influence. But as long as you're stupid enough to compare bricks to atoms go ahead, just don't share it with anyone.
@Johnbag7 You could just search 'origin of life' here on youtube and see several ideas about that. Whether you compared amino acids to bricks or atoms to bricks is a very trivial detail. Both atoms and amino acids get to bond with other atoms/amino acids based largely on magnetism. The mathematical probability hypothesis didn't take this into account - it assumed atoms are no more choosy about their neighbors than balls of tar.
@JustinMShaw Give me an example of how magnestism can do anything other than attract 2 atoms or amino acids, this falls soooo far short in explaining how it can arrange these atoms and amino acids into a digital code.
@JustinMShaw And btw i didnt compare atoms to bricks, perhaps you should learn to read before making ignorant comments, and im still waiting for an answer.
@Johnbag7 Since you brought up information I have some questions about that hypothesis. How is the information quantified? What unit of measurement gets used? How do they show that the information does not exist at the beginning - assuming (for sake of argument only) that information can be measured how do they show that it is being created rather than just rearranged?
@JustinMShaw *Sigh* Are you questioning that DNA is encoded information? Do you think this is just MY "hypothesis"? lol Are you saying that the Information in DNA was never created, just arranged?? Well you can explain in terms of physics and chemistry how ink bonds to paper, but that does not explain how it becomes ARRANGED so that it conveys a message that can be understood by the reader as language. The ONLY thing that has ever been observed to do this is intelligence,So back to my question..
@Johnbag7 Yes, I'm questioning whether we have the ability to measure any information beyond that in systems we create such as mathematical proofs, and even then I question whether we identify all the information. I don't claim that it's your hypothesis, I think you're just another fool who's been duped by the lying 'scientists' who are promoting ID. They have yet to come up with a single rational argument yet they've been trying to change this country's science curriculum for years now.
@JustinMShaw I think you're the fool who has been duped into believing a completely materialistic, unguided process created life when even the top scientists dont even claim to know how it started. They are basically telling us, we dont know how it started but we do know it wasnt God just an unguided mindless incident. If thats the ideology you want to agree with then be my guest.
@Johnbag7 So if you're too lazy to go look up origins on your own and want it explained in less than 500 characters, lmao... Complex organic molecules get assembled in high impacts like those happening during the formation of the Earth. Some clays grab nucleotides and put them together. Lipids naturally form cell-sized bubbles with protein and RNA inside. Finally, RNA and proteins can make DNA. Lack of knowledge about the environment prevents meaningful probability studies.
@JustinMShaw High impacts create information, right.... Clay grabs nucleotides and arranges them into information, sure..... Lipids naturally form cell-sized bubbles, so its the size of a cell it will become a cell, great.... Proteins make DNA? Proteins are created from the information that is stored in the DNA. I think you are a bit confused. I have spent over two years studying the origin of life and i can say with confidence that none of the speculation even comes close to explaining it.
No one's "avoiding a notion." They address it with disbelief. They're formulating an opinion based on lack of evidence, the same way you formulate your opinion based on religious dogma likely forced upon you by parents and/or community from a young age.
@youztuber5000 Im illustrating the ridiculous notion that any component, be it bricks, amino acids or any other molecules have the capacity to arrange themselves into meaningful complex structures, but i see that my comparison was too complicated for you to understand so il try to keep it simpler in future.
@Johnbag7 Don't bother with simple. Just keep it honest. Amino acids and nucleotides don't act like bricks. Interesting that you'd choose bricks, though, because some clays do put together RNA.
@JustinMShaw Ok, lets talk about honest, you honestly believe that CLAY arranges complex encoded information, self replicating and purposeful, not to mention the mechanism that is required to read and interpret the information?? And if CLAY is capable of doing this, why are you arguing against the analogy?? If your hypothesis is true then it should be reasonable to assume that clay bricks would arrange themselves into complex structures like houses. Arguing my analogy is arguing against yourself
@Johnbag7 No, I said clay has been observed putting nucleotides together, I don't know whether it does so in particular patterns or not. The point is that other molecules are involved and some of them may have put them together in particular orders, destroying the basis of the ID probability argument. Keep in mind that the entire working of the cell functions on molecules interacting on each other. You're arguing that creation itself couldn't have created life.
@wipeout249 HAHA Wikipedia?? Is that a reputable scientific authority? LMFAO And yes i am saying that those theories arent "beliefworthy", in fact no serious scientist would even dare claim to know how life started, not even the legendary richard dawkins. Did you just go search abiogenesis to find out what it means on wikipedia when i mentioned it 2 hours ago?? LOL, I cant take anyone seriously who supports there claims using a "free encyclopedia that anyone can edit."
@Johnbag7 i am a biochemistry major so i think i have a little more "authority" than you do on the science of life. you are right, no scientist claims to know how life started, even though you claim to "know" that life could not have begun through chemical means. there are theories, many of them quite logical to those who are versed in the sciences of chem and biology. it seems you are some sort of religious fundy or something of the sort, because you are so self assured that life did not begin
@wipeout249 Im self assured that life did not begin??? What is that supposed to mean?? And yes, i am a "religious fundy" and proud of it, i have enough sense to see the exquisite design that pervades absolutely everything. Im far more comfortable having faith in an intelligent agent of design and purpose rather than "we dont know yet but someday we will" bullshit.
@Johnbag7 naturally. i cited wikipedia because that page is very trustworthy and edited by folks who care about the truth and not what some ancient book tells them. you can kid yourself that you have it all figured out, be my guest. i can't be bothered with someone who is so close minded to new thoughts.
@makaveli024su Yeah, some irresponsible group of atoms just wasn't looking where it was going! This has made a lot of people very angry, and been widely regarded as a big mistake.
@Cacterpus No,You called back and repeated the same exact thing you said earlier, What you repeated wasn't a new request with new information at all. It's just an identical copy of your original request. If you claim that organisms went from primordial soup to a prince via billions of years and some other factors you have an entire grand canyon times 40 of new information that mutations have to account for. When you think about mutations adding that much information it just becomes preposterous.
@Cacterpus "Have you ever heard of Hox Gene duplication?" Cacterpus this is not an increase in genetic information, If I duplicate all my comments that doesn't create new information, That is the same information ,Nothing new. However it is an increase in genetic material, That I did not deny. And Gene duplication may be the cause of anatomical symmetry but this wasn't caused by any mutations since this would mean at one point we only had half a body before the mutation cause us to have a whole
@Cacterpus We create pizza, We know where the slices come from, We observe this happen, Not the case for macro evolution,Unlike Macro- evolution it doesn't take millions of years to make pizza just to know it can happen. NTM genetic biology & mutations is hardly comparable to kitchen work AND pizza is intelligently designed. Pizza comes from order design and intelligence, Mutations are harmful,Dangerous and decrease information, No wonder .
@Cacterpus "DNA without error correction would have expedited evolution and lead to the rapid diversification of life on this planet." No it wouldn't , First off since we have never observed generations of DNA survive without error correction your statement is mere speculation not science. Also without error check the pile of errors would stack up so high there would be waaay to many. The organism would not survive. NTM mutations have only be observed to cause micro-evolution. Macro= fairytales
if you do simple math, you must see that the probabilities of evolution occurring are absolutely impossible. Evolution is a vile, cruel and hateful religion, that states man is god, it is the great lie of the deceiver and he is laughing at all of you for believing it. My hope and prayer is that God shine His light and truth upon you that you may see and hear and live and breath the reality that you were created for His purpose, glory, love, and joy, that you not forsake His free give and live.
@persevere67 The mathematical probability studies are meaningless. They don't take into account the nature of atoms or molecules, they just assume that everything comes together randomly. According to them the likelihood of four carbon atoms attaching to one hydrogen atom would be the same as four hydrogen atoms to one carbon. It's very telling that the creationist crowd has always referred to scientific explanations of the origins of life as an 'accident'. They clearly don't want to get it.
Just because we dont understand something doesnt make it logical to substitute GOD as the answer. Christianity assumed that god "created" the earth in a day, Christianity assumed that the sun and the universe revolves around our earth, now you are assuming that DNA is created by god and we popped into existance out of thin air. Im sorry but christian pseudo science doesn't have a very good track record.
Wait, so DNA don't fold up into chromosomes untill they need to split? So in a normal cell there's unwound DNA strands floating about inside the nucleus? Or are they just folded up into chromatin?
So you're saying that information is conserved except in minds where it is created? That is not backed by evidence, though there is an unsubstantiated ID hypothesis that information is created in complex molecules evolving over time. As far as evidence of false beliefs almost all past ones would work. What comes to mind first for me is geologic history - first blaming giants and floods, then recognizing tectonics and erosion but denying cataclysmic eruptions or collisions, and back to floods.
@JustinMShaw No im saying that only minds can actually produce information in the form that we see in DNA(4 Alphabets,Instructions for proteins) .Im not saying nature cant produce information like make it so that it is true that x is a cold experiment since that would be a fact and thus information. Point is nature cannot produce written information and code and instructions is what I mean.This is substantiated since only intelligence can 'know' which instructions and code are correct for a task
@RaytownSoClassof2010 It's not substantiated. You're making an assumption that nature cannot create a code, you're making another assumption that when minds make codes information is being created rather than simply rearranged. Creating any world-view by declaring all other views "impossible" is a bad way to go - it's the method of religious zealotry, not rational thinking.
@JustinMShaw You're making an assumption that nature cannot create a code" Yes because nature is blind and has no mind, Code are things that have a message and they contian information with meaning, Sorry but nature doesn't do this because it isnt capable."making another assumption that when minds make codes information is being created rather than simply rearranged." When you make a language that contains alphabets and write instructions for molecular machines that is creating information
@RaytownSoClassof2010 So you're not really presenting an argument, you're just stating beliefs. That's fine and thanks for sharing, but it makes your original question of why people don't blindly accept a designer posted on a science video slightly out of place. The evidence we have so far does not lean either for or against a designer. We have yet to witness all of the environments and possibly chemical combinations that were involved in the emergence of life.
Beliefs? It isnt a belief that information comes only from mind. Since information comes from a source that was informed about the subject, But in order to be informed you must know something and thus intelligence. You can pretend im stating beliefs if you want but that doesn't help you.I asked why people don't blindly accept a designer?When? Strawman I say. We do have evidence for a designer,Information. And chemical combinations cant write a language with information so thats false.
@RaytownSoClassof2010 Your defenitions are all messed up. Information exists independently from minds. For example, there is information in the light emitted by a star about said star - wheter there is an astronomer interpreting it or not. Interpretation is key here.
But suppose you have a molecule that triggers a certain behavior when exposed to a specific type of light. That would mean that the molecule "uses" the information of the star to do something. No mind required.
@RaytownSoClassof2010 "in order to be informed you must know something and thus intelligence"
This is the same type of error. You are talking about interpretation again, not about 'information'.
Interaction between properties is not the same as interpreting information.
That's all life is in essence: interacting molecules. And the molecules change over generations. And the "best working" interactions are the ones that spread in the population. No mind required.
@ScientificBob Your thinking about a totally different type of information than me, Im talking about information with a message that tells something to do something by giving specific instructions, That is what DNA is, It has a four letter alphabet regardless if weather or not anyone recognizes it. DNA has letters,Punctuation etc. It is a language,A LANGUAGE with letters can only come from mind. Replication doesn't require a mind, But the information in DNA does, Get over it.
@RaytownSoClassof2010 "information with a message that tells something to do something by giving specific instructions" Indeed, which is not what DNA is.
DNA is a molecular chain that interacts with other molecules. Certain types of molecules trigger certain things based on properties of that molecule. This is what you are calling "letters".
This is completely wrong and shows your ignorance on both biology as well as information theory.
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godisvip 4 days ago
This isn't atheism, I'm Christian and its common sense that it would take God to do this MIRACLE EVERYDAY
Tuxiam 6 days ago
Atheists are stupid. "It takes intelligence for a sock to exist but not DNA."
mus5599 1 week ago
LOL It looks like a Tim Burton film!
Greystripe55 1 week ago
This is so freaking awesome! Is there a full episode of this available somewhere? I'd love to see this stuff on Discovery or National Geographic.
TaxEvasion 2 weeks ago
You know you're a nerd when you stumble onto a video that you've seen in a lecture :(
rawssremix 3 weeks ago
please, next time in HD!!! Life is a wonder
q0w1e2r3t4y5 4 weeks ago
wowwwww
9Christina9 1 month ago
life is CRAZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
R0B0stairs 1 month ago
yeaa but eeew,
had to stop watchin
bleedinblackblood6 1 month ago
we need HD!
crimarine 1 month ago in playlist DNA Replication
Morgellons, a disease born from human technology. See my videos for details.
TheRealPhatgrower 1 month ago
there are some (quite horrifying) mistakes in the comment.. the animation is amazing though...
agniky 1 month ago
Incredible. Whether you believe God created this directly, or just created a universe in which such beautiful things are possible, or you don't believe in God, you gotta appreciate this.
aaronmathewclem 1 month ago 4
i got that the 1st time. whatever
originalidentity 2 months ago
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Herotruth 2 months ago
ha bin ein luder
KamalaKerennj41 2 months ago
I have a really hard time believing that this just evolved.
mushroomvin 2 months ago
@mushroomvin I have a really hard time believing that there are people doubting it....
agniky 1 month ago
@mushroomvin ok. check out conway's game of life(preferably download GOLLY and read about it on wikipedia) and inform us about your thoughts.
Loyadd 2 weeks ago
Very good animation a somewhat simpler explanation then what I was looking for but still close enough. Thanks
Violetnight8 2 months ago
hehe hab was geiles entdeckt haha
VelmaKylietw162 2 months ago
intelligent design? nope, chuck testa.
chrisviolet13 2 months ago
God created them to work that way, duh
bananasofcourse 2 months ago
+ Liquid stranger. Full psychodelic ;)
Hunabku0 2 months ago
@tazprince lol
Arenicolous 2 months ago
is very interesting and amazing this video!!! :D
Kalokagathos1 2 months ago
I think George Merkel talks about these Biochemical machines. Hence the Maltese Cross being derived from this.
supatipanno 2 months ago
Very helpful, thank you for uploading such a great video.
jackop9111 2 months ago
wow..Allah is great...only God can make such an amazing system..never chance
tazprince 2 months ago
@tazprince and yet by electrocuting hydrogen, amino acids form...
jichaelmackson1958 2 months ago
Yes, Divine Particles, what a great way to explain it all. Thanks for the insight.
28janya22 3 months ago
Look at this! There is no way these chemicals, I mean, divine particles, can assemble by their relative electrical affinity into structure, nor can they subsequently improve upon themselves due to DNA's slight margin of replication errors.
I learned all this in a biology class that was taught in Spanish, and I don't even know Spanish!
confettibrains 3 months ago
. . .and they say all this happens without the participation of an active intelligence and wisdom, which the sensible, those who have the eyes to see and the ears to hear and a heart to know, call God
28janya22 3 months ago
@28janya22 i belive god and soul is enerey
leo196able 3 months ago
@28janya22 God never told us how it worked.. We had to find out by ourselves. And we are still finding more and more. It has nothing to do with intelligence. Those cells that didn't have this unique mechanism of proteosynthesis are GONE. It depends on environment, what species can sustain and which can not. There are millions extinct species that didn't have the ability to live in given environment. It is NOT THAT SIMPLE. Educate yourself and don't post rush comments ending with God excuse.
hybrid212 3 months ago
@hybrid212
It has everything to do with cosmic intelligence and cosmic wisdom = that which we call God. And that is not an excuse. Its a fact.
I am educating myself. You should too.
28janya22 3 months ago
@28janya22 You did not mention any relevant statement regarding this subject. What do you mean by intelligence? There are meteorites that hit one another, stars that are exploding, bigger fish eating little fish, your body is in constant battle with bacteria and viruses. What's the purpose of floods? To drown people? What's the purpose of hurricanes, earthquakes, erupting volcanoes, lightnings? To kill people?
hybrid212 3 months ago
The fact that we are finding out by ourselves is clearly and precisely because of this same intelligence and wisdom. The fact that something depends on the enviroment for survival; some surviving others not, does not in any way take away from the fact that intelligence and wisdom, are behind the phenomenon. No machine is made without a thinker or thinkers thoughts. One can perceive "thinking" behind these activities of these little molecular machines.
28janya22 3 months ago
Now, the "thinking" of the chemical forms/cells maybe an instinctive one, or an automated one, but that does not negate the fact that "someone" or "something" has put all this into place. This is "that simple." And I must thank you for making me think. :)
28janya22 3 months ago
@28janya22 Haven't you read the newest science report from Yale Uni? Neuron star could be the producer of complex living molecules, aka DNA.
binbashLinuxAhole 3 months ago
@binbashLinuxAhole
Send me the link. I love to know more. More power to Neutron star, (I think you writing Neuron star is a typo? I have never heard of a Neuron star. ) for/if it is producing complex living molecules. Wisdom and intelligence at work again;! remember, Wisdom and Intelligence = God, we can also add other attributes to this being, phenomenon, the whole etc.
Do send me the link if you have it handy.
28janya22 2 months ago
. . . and we/science are merely "discovering" these things, we/science has not "created" them. There is a definite difference in the created objects themselves and the discovery of those objects.
28janya22 3 months ago
Explain this evolution!!
Firrerre 3 months ago in playlist Biochemistry and Genetics
@Firrerre Any answer that doesn't involve divine intervention will not satisfy you, so your question is redundant. Ask your god and have a nice day!
TheKainMan 3 months ago
this computer simulation is much more effective than my school's textbook
pearlpiari 3 months ago 40
@pearlpiari haha really??
DrPsymotion 3 weeks ago
derp... o.0
Kaaxe 4 months ago
how can science explain the quantum mechanics to its full potential, it can;t it is limited, it only works on the frequency that we are governed to the ocupied space we are in. its time to move on and find our 6th sense. start learning CYMATIC and how to apply it on our DNA to reach full evolution. and that way we will open our 6th sense.
MrJoebrada 4 months ago
Wow, this is amazing! Much more interesting when u see it this way rather than a lecture with slides.
mteferra22 4 months ago 26
science cant explain how a jellyfish can think when its got no brains. evolution cant explain their ways, nature shows their survival = growth + protection. only common it has between plants (which are simple) and animals (more complex) is there reproductive ways. clearly they are driven by a 6th sense. Which mean they connect to the source. proof that cell THINK. KYMATICA is real. science lover eat that! nature lovers eat that. evolution suckers eat tha
MrJoebrada 4 months ago
@MrJoebrada you've been smoking waaaaayyy too much weed, firstly, science HAS explained how Jellyfish survive, they dont "Think", as you said they have no brain. Instead their underside absorbes nutrients from the water. Their movement is caused by their nervous system which respond to external stimuli. Don't preach if you have no idea what your talking about :)
jichaelmackson1958 2 months ago
kymatics goes through natural person. why it doesnt exist anymore in everyone, who controls that. where science comes in (our 5 senses) , where religion comes in (the 6th sense), where history backup the secondary info is false, and how you use science to evolve properly by enlightenment through know the source, not the old christian crap, 2150 is the next date of a messiah, messiah only come on this earth to tell us to let go stop using out energy on protection cause we fear everyday. TY
MrJoebrada 4 months ago
i would rather stand by a jesus belief than a full scientific blinded fool. thats my neutral support for alexjr2.
PivAd123.. ya need let go of your fear and put your energy into love. its you people who bring cancer to this world, its you people who will not survive cause as you know is biology.. survival = growth and protection... your protection is well to high (thats you protecting yourself from fear, you have to growth. therefore you will not evolv. tell me about 28 DNA blocks. professor
MrJoebrada 4 months ago
@MrJoebrada Hahaha.
Scientific? Blinded? Fool?
Wait, you're like this annoying woman in Donnie Darko. Offtopic, but whatever.
I do not have any form of fear in me? You're making an assumption that all I know is biology.
And no, it's people like you who bring cancer to this world. Science is there for the development of humanity, for a higher chance of survivability and to live a better life.
What are you, on drugs or something?
PivAd123 4 months ago
@MrJoebrada Anyways, I'm going to watch the first half of Kymatica before deciding it's completely bullshit or not.
PivAd123 4 months ago
@PivAd123
wow you already put yourself to a new level, you use words like hippie. lol. shows a bit about your intellect, you are bliss in your ignorance, suppress your feelings, let the tyrannies of today rule you, you only portray the image of someone who has very little self esteem, i forgot, maybe if you were to believe in a god, i bet the one you would believe in the a made up god by the science world that has low self esteem. lol
MrJoebrada 4 months ago
@MrJoebrada *sigh*
You know, whatever man. I'm through with the debate in this video, it reeks with delusional people.
PivAd123 4 months ago
@MrJoebrada I'm, to be honest, speechless at people like you. I am too annoyed and tired of typing shit at people like you, then it ends up into a deeper debate.
I believe I am wasting my time here, I'll go back to my studies.
Nice meeting you, Kymatica was interesting, although it seemed more like a conspiracy documentary.
PivAd123 4 months ago
@PivAd123
wow you said you get sick of typing shit., that reflects on your self esteem, i bet it also reflects on your unconscious behavior too. too bad you don't meet eye to eye, cause if we did, i would see very little in you, and i would have yo enlighten your negative life. if science can't meet consistent results in proof then it is flaw. and if science can be restricted by the cults that run these corporate tyranny that run the world, then your science is defiantly flawed. OPEN YOUR EYES
MrJoebrada 4 months ago
@MrJoebrada Negative life?
Eh, whatever. Have fun with your life, and I'll go with mine. I can't really be bothered arguing such topics like this, hahahaha. (which to be honest i'm not good at)
That's why I was speechless.
All I can say though is, open YOUR eyes.
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hematitecrow 4 months ago
Pretty amazing! remains me my lovely class of Biology
OoYouFancyHuh 4 months ago
Pretty amazing! remains me my lovely class of Biology
OoYouFancyHuh 4 months ago
Too bad the narration is missing on the last bit. I'd like to renarrate this, except using the big words this time, (like Uracil, seriously, U?) Also I'd like a high quality copy of this to do it on.
It would be a awesome movie for my college biochem class afterwards.
TheRealZen00 4 months ago
@butchesty
Brilliant retort. "Your opinion dissatisfies me, close your mouth, I decide when you talk. However, if it was one I agreed with, I wouldn't be saying this." Keep approaching the world like that, and everything'll work out fine for you. The Internet is where people go to post their opinions. You posted yours, I posted mine. It's called an "Ongoing dialogue."
If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Npowell01 4 months ago
@butchesty
Then make your own. The video is called "Molecular visualizations of DNA." Maybe you should've read the title before clicking it and then calling it shit?
It's actually quite beautiful and is happening in your body right now. Not that you'd care. You don't even care enough to read video titles.
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vividDC 4 months ago
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crby101 4 months ago
All religion is fractured fairy tales.period. can you say godspot (look it up)
fridgegrowguy 4 months ago
The packing of DNA looks like a fractal. The complex packaging method could just be the result of self-similarity arising from a simple equation.
CharizardFireGod 4 months ago
@music1account This is the fucking real evidence. Go to some fucking Biology Labs and go see for yourself.
PivAd123 4 months ago
There had to be a first cause by an uncaused being. It didn't happen by itself.
We are fearfully and wonderfully made.
RichNel1 4 months ago
@RichNel1 Lol
PivAd123 4 months ago
@Johnbag7 if you were born in iraq you would be muslim
allenmanbear 4 months ago
where does Jesus fit in? :P
Gerrup 4 months ago
They say science explains how life works you you don't need to believe in God. I see this and it reinforces my belief.
EmperorOfMars 4 months ago
@EmperorOfMars Very few people say that. Most of the controversy recently is a response to dishonest 'Christian' 'scientists' who've been claiming they have proof of God and very rudely dismiss any evidence that doesn't fit their little nutshell. The scientific model allows for a wide range of beliefs, it's just not very tolerant of the idea of ongoing divine intervention.
JustinMShaw 4 months ago in playlist Politics
@JustinMShaw Nah, it just seems like the universe is inclined for life to develop and evolve. If think about it life as we know can only exist because the fundamental consistences of nature allow it. So it just seems very unlikely that it all happened by chance. Then again you could also argue that we can only discuss this because it happen. Oh well, back to zelda
EmperorOfMars 4 months ago
@EmperorOfMars It didn't happen by chance. That's the misconception by people like you. It's not just rolling a dice. Wtf.
PivAd123 4 months ago
@PivAd123 Bro, I said the universe seemed inclined for life to develop.
>inclined
>god
EmperorOfMars 4 months ago
After the process when the protein is done, where does the used mRNA go?
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kjtaylr 4 months ago
This is a great animation of an absolutely amazing biological process--best video capturing how DNA works that I've yet found on the internet.
Proelium7 5 months ago 7
I heard solfeggio tuning forks cure dna look up 528 hzg solfeggio tuners i believe. Ever heard of it? Ancient technology I learned about from a musician
JDNuvo 5 months ago
I do like to remind people about respect. It reminds me of old arguments that the Egyptians could not have built the pyramids; must have been aliens. On one hand that's acknowledging the awesome construction of the pyramids but on the other it's an insult to the Egyptians. Similarly to say that this stuff is so amazing that it must have been designed is acknowledging how amazing it is, but it's also an insult to the universe. And a little narcissistic too since we design things.
JustinMShaw 5 months ago
@JustinMShaw But DNA is unique in our world. Pyramids could or could not have been built is just a technical debate, while building a cell is totally a different issue. Nature doesn't have intelligence; it could only build stars, planets, and mountains which contain no orderly information. If you change even one block in a certain gene, the whole thing will go wrong.
ddhjxcl 5 months ago
@ddhjxcl We don't know that DNA is unique our world. We have neither explored the full extent of this planet or any other. We also don't know that nature doesn't have intelligence. Our history makes clear that we are very bad at even defining intelligence and at recognizing it in animals. We also cannot use information theory to tell us much about genes, since we cannot confirm that we're identifying all the information. Too many assumptions in your reply.
JustinMShaw 5 months ago
@JustinMShaw Well, I don't think it's as dramatic and insulting as you make it out to be. One has to wonder about things. I think it's just fine include the possibility in a debate in order to strengthen the 'real' side thru dedicated investigation. It's a normal tendency of the mind to make of phenomenal qualities some force it doesn't yet understand. I think that is there for a reason…though at the risk of much woo woo being invented as a result.
bhaktalex 5 months ago
@bhaktalex Yeah, when I say it's an insult to the universe to assume it couldn't come up with life I don't mean that we're in danger of offending it, I just think it makes us look very, very foolish.
JustinMShaw 5 months ago
@JustinMShaw Yes. I can agree with that…which seems to be the trend nowadays.
bhaktalex 5 months ago
There are endless layers of contemplation with these kinds of origin questions. Even if you accept God there comes the question of what created God, or if God is eternal then why the timing on the creation of the world. The people who came up with modern secularism were mostly believers, but they didn't accept divine intervention. They saw that as a sign of a clumsy imperfect God. Modern ID is arguing for divine intervention. The arguments go back as far as we can see.
JustinMShaw 5 months ago
Questions…how do all the components know they are being summoned? How does the ribosome know to got to the RNA string to start making a protein? How does the RNA string know to move out to the outer cell? I mean, these aren't people with brains, so what drives them to their respective places. As much as we can use the assembly line analogy, there's always a human in an assembly line making sure things flow properly to where they need to be. So what is the 'force' that's making that happen?
bhaktalex 5 months ago
@bhaktalex The simple but not entirely satisfying answer is that this is the way the molecules in the cell work. They don't 'know' to go anywhere or assemble anything any more than water 'knows' to flow downhill. The 'force' you're asking about is mostly magnetism. They get pushed and pulled in various directions that change as the molecules move. A long-ago analogy was that of a mechanical clock. If you delve deeper into smaller realms you quickly run into the strangeness of quantum ideas.
JustinMShaw 5 months ago
@JustinMShaw Very interesting. Thanks for taking the time. I need to study this stuff in depth! It's dazzling :)
bhaktalex 5 months ago
@bhaktalex I want to ask exactly the same questions! I think maybe the first cell was designed by aliens from another planet. It is very hard to believe that nature could produce anything like this spontaneously.
ddhjxcl 5 months ago
@ddhjxcl Well, aliens or not, we'd be asking the same question because aliens would have cells too :) I think the mysteries of this whole universe are to be understood by the law gravity (attraction) and magnetism (attraction as well). It's quite simple to see how these forces are responsible, but how this forces come to be, that's still a work of genius…or simply genius phenomenon. I think I'll think about this on a shroom journey :)
bhaktalex 5 months ago
@bhaktalex Just a wild guess, aliens don't necessarily have cells. They might be other forms of life which can be generated spontaneously in universe. Another incredible fact is that DNA contains huge amount of information in it. Nothing else in our world has information except for man-made computers. More importantly, that information could be copied and transcripted into functional materials. I can't imagine nature itself could do those things.
ddhjxcl 5 months ago
@ddhjxcl Hmm…interesting point. We're very much like super machine/computers. All other matter 'seem' much simpler in it's architecture. Don't crystals hold information? I thought everything was information :-\
bhaktalex 5 months ago
@bhaktalex Why crystals can hold information? I suppose information should have order. For example, the sequence 1223334444333...contains four kinds of blocks, and all of the blocks are arranged in an exact order. If change even one block, the whole sequence will lose its meaning. Could crystals contain such information?
ddhjxcl 5 months ago
@ddhjxcl well, have you seen the TED presentation with the young Theoretical Physicist who surfs and has been putting together a theory about sub-sub atomic particles. As he reveals the order of the particles, it becomes apparent that all is 'information'. keep in mind #s are theoretical representations. Here's the link: (oops, can't send link…google "Garrett Lisi on his theory of everything") let me know what you think.
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AllThatYouSense 5 months ago
God is real, its religion thats false
ScaryBanana90 5 months ago
@ScaryBanana90 How is God real?
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rsobhee 5 months ago
Wow! isnt it amazing how a few amino acids floating around a swamp arranged themselves into such an orderly and complex system, i wonder if i left a load of bricks in a pile, would they build themselves into a house...
Johnbag7 5 months ago 2
@Johnbag7 If the bricks were all magnetically charged in very complicated ways and surrounded by other bricks that were very particular about how they could be arranged the chances are very good.
JustinMShaw 5 months ago
@JustinMShaw Magnetism creates information!? HAHAHAHA!! The crap some people are willing to believe to avoid the notion that there may be a God who created them both astounds and amuses me, quite pathetic.
Johnbag7 5 months ago
@Johnbag7 I wouldn't say it creates information, but it does dictate how atoms interact with each other. The information argument you're talking about comes from the fools who ignored the nature of atoms to come up with the lie that it was impossible for atoms to form life without divine influence. But as long as you're stupid enough to compare bricks to atoms go ahead, just don't share it with anyone.
JustinMShaw 5 months ago
@JustinMShaw Then give me an example how the properties of atoms create life all by themselves without any outside help?
Johnbag7 5 months ago
@Johnbag7 You could just search 'origin of life' here on youtube and see several ideas about that. Whether you compared amino acids to bricks or atoms to bricks is a very trivial detail. Both atoms and amino acids get to bond with other atoms/amino acids based largely on magnetism. The mathematical probability hypothesis didn't take this into account - it assumed atoms are no more choosy about their neighbors than balls of tar.
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@JustinMShaw Give me an example of how magnestism can do anything other than attract 2 atoms or amino acids, this falls soooo far short in explaining how it can arrange these atoms and amino acids into a digital code.
Johnbag7 5 months ago
@JustinMShaw And btw i didnt compare atoms to bricks, perhaps you should learn to read before making ignorant comments, and im still waiting for an answer.
Johnbag7 5 months ago
@Johnbag7 Since you brought up information I have some questions about that hypothesis. How is the information quantified? What unit of measurement gets used? How do they show that the information does not exist at the beginning - assuming (for sake of argument only) that information can be measured how do they show that it is being created rather than just rearranged?
JustinMShaw 5 months ago
@JustinMShaw *Sigh* Are you questioning that DNA is encoded information? Do you think this is just MY "hypothesis"? lol Are you saying that the Information in DNA was never created, just arranged?? Well you can explain in terms of physics and chemistry how ink bonds to paper, but that does not explain how it becomes ARRANGED so that it conveys a message that can be understood by the reader as language. The ONLY thing that has ever been observed to do this is intelligence,So back to my question..
Johnbag7 5 months ago
@Johnbag7 Yes, I'm questioning whether we have the ability to measure any information beyond that in systems we create such as mathematical proofs, and even then I question whether we identify all the information. I don't claim that it's your hypothesis, I think you're just another fool who's been duped by the lying 'scientists' who are promoting ID. They have yet to come up with a single rational argument yet they've been trying to change this country's science curriculum for years now.
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@JustinMShaw I think you're the fool who has been duped into believing a completely materialistic, unguided process created life when even the top scientists dont even claim to know how it started. They are basically telling us, we dont know how it started but we do know it wasnt God just an unguided mindless incident. If thats the ideology you want to agree with then be my guest.
Johnbag7 5 months ago
@Johnbag7 So if you're too lazy to go look up origins on your own and want it explained in less than 500 characters, lmao... Complex organic molecules get assembled in high impacts like those happening during the formation of the Earth. Some clays grab nucleotides and put them together. Lipids naturally form cell-sized bubbles with protein and RNA inside. Finally, RNA and proteins can make DNA. Lack of knowledge about the environment prevents meaningful probability studies.
JustinMShaw 5 months ago
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@JustinMShaw High impacts create information, right.... Clay grabs nucleotides and arranges them into information, sure..... Lipids naturally form cell-sized bubbles, so its the size of a cell it will become a cell, great.... Proteins make DNA? Proteins are created from the information that is stored in the DNA. I think you are a bit confused. I have spent over two years studying the origin of life and i can say with confidence that none of the speculation even comes close to explaining it.
Johnbag7 5 months ago
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@JustinMShaw (Cont) Give me an example how the properties of atoms create life all by themselves without any outside help?
Johnbag7 5 months ago
@Johnbag7
No one's "avoiding a notion." They address it with disbelief. They're formulating an opinion based on lack of evidence, the same way you formulate your opinion based on religious dogma likely forced upon you by parents and/or community from a young age.
Npowell01 4 months ago
@Johnbag7
No, search on "entropy".
DoS37 5 months ago
@Johnbag7 No they obviously wouldn't...
Etrajbe 5 months ago
@Johnbag7
With god's help they would :)
spryguy 5 months ago
@Johnbag7 You're comparing DNA to baked clay?....0_o
youztuber5000 4 months ago
@youztuber5000 Im illustrating the ridiculous notion that any component, be it bricks, amino acids or any other molecules have the capacity to arrange themselves into meaningful complex structures, but i see that my comparison was too complicated for you to understand so il try to keep it simpler in future.
Johnbag7 4 months ago
@Johnbag7 Don't bother with simple. Just keep it honest. Amino acids and nucleotides don't act like bricks. Interesting that you'd choose bricks, though, because some clays do put together RNA.
JustinMShaw 4 months ago in playlist Politics
@JustinMShaw Ok, lets talk about honest, you honestly believe that CLAY arranges complex encoded information, self replicating and purposeful, not to mention the mechanism that is required to read and interpret the information?? And if CLAY is capable of doing this, why are you arguing against the analogy?? If your hypothesis is true then it should be reasonable to assume that clay bricks would arrange themselves into complex structures like houses. Arguing my analogy is arguing against yourself
Johnbag7 4 months ago
@Johnbag7 No, I said clay has been observed putting nucleotides together, I don't know whether it does so in particular patterns or not. The point is that other molecules are involved and some of them may have put them together in particular orders, destroying the basis of the ID probability argument. Keep in mind that the entire working of the cell functions on molecules interacting on each other. You're arguing that creation itself couldn't have created life.
JustinMShaw 4 months ago
@Johnbag7 that is such flawed logic...clearly you dont know a thing about evolution
wipeout249 4 months ago
@wipeout249 LMFAO im not talking about evolution, im talking about abiogenesis LOL dont you know the difference??
Johnbag7 4 months ago
@Johnbag7 if you have a beef with abiogenesis just look up the wikipedia article.... are you telling me none of those theories are beliefworthy?
wipeout249 4 months ago
@wipeout249 HAHA Wikipedia?? Is that a reputable scientific authority? LMFAO And yes i am saying that those theories arent "beliefworthy", in fact no serious scientist would even dare claim to know how life started, not even the legendary richard dawkins. Did you just go search abiogenesis to find out what it means on wikipedia when i mentioned it 2 hours ago?? LOL, I cant take anyone seriously who supports there claims using a "free encyclopedia that anyone can edit."
Johnbag7 4 months ago
@Johnbag7 i am a biochemistry major so i think i have a little more "authority" than you do on the science of life. you are right, no scientist claims to know how life started, even though you claim to "know" that life could not have begun through chemical means. there are theories, many of them quite logical to those who are versed in the sciences of chem and biology. it seems you are some sort of religious fundy or something of the sort, because you are so self assured that life did not begin
wipeout249 4 months ago
@wipeout249 Im self assured that life did not begin??? What is that supposed to mean?? And yes, i am a "religious fundy" and proud of it, i have enough sense to see the exquisite design that pervades absolutely everything. Im far more comfortable having faith in an intelligent agent of design and purpose rather than "we dont know yet but someday we will" bullshit.
Johnbag7 4 months ago
@Johnbag7 naturally. i cited wikipedia because that page is very trustworthy and edited by folks who care about the truth and not what some ancient book tells them. you can kid yourself that you have it all figured out, be my guest. i can't be bothered with someone who is so close minded to new thoughts.
wipeout249 4 months ago 9
@wipeout249 It wasnt until i opened my mind did i see that some "ancient book" is far more reliable.
Johnbag7 4 months ago
Evolution has pretty much been proven
malakiahs 5 months ago
That is just... amazing.
basilsunshine 5 months ago
so this is made by accident right?lmao
makaveli024su 5 months ago
@makaveli024su Yeah, some irresponsible group of atoms just wasn't looking where it was going! This has made a lot of people very angry, and been widely regarded as a big mistake.
JustinMShaw 5 months ago
@makaveli024su No. God made it cuz he likes to play with countless colorful balls. -_-
MyLocalman 5 months ago
@makaveli024su Common misconception among people. It's not by accident lol.
PivAd123 4 months ago
@Cacterpus No,You called back and repeated the same exact thing you said earlier, What you repeated wasn't a new request with new information at all. It's just an identical copy of your original request. If you claim that organisms went from primordial soup to a prince via billions of years and some other factors you have an entire grand canyon times 40 of new information that mutations have to account for. When you think about mutations adding that much information it just becomes preposterous.
RaytownSoClassof2010 6 months ago
@Cacterpus "Have you ever heard of Hox Gene duplication?" Cacterpus this is not an increase in genetic information, If I duplicate all my comments that doesn't create new information, That is the same information ,Nothing new. However it is an increase in genetic material, That I did not deny. And Gene duplication may be the cause of anatomical symmetry but this wasn't caused by any mutations since this would mean at one point we only had half a body before the mutation cause us to have a whole
RaytownSoClassof2010 6 months ago
@Cacterpus We create pizza, We know where the slices come from, We observe this happen, Not the case for macro evolution,Unlike Macro- evolution it doesn't take millions of years to make pizza just to know it can happen. NTM genetic biology & mutations is hardly comparable to kitchen work AND pizza is intelligently designed. Pizza comes from order design and intelligence, Mutations are harmful,Dangerous and decrease information, No wonder .
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@Cacterpus "DNA without error correction would have expedited evolution and lead to the rapid diversification of life on this planet." No it wouldn't , First off since we have never observed generations of DNA survive without error correction your statement is mere speculation not science. Also without error check the pile of errors would stack up so high there would be waaay to many. The organism would not survive. NTM mutations have only be observed to cause micro-evolution. Macro= fairytales
RaytownSoClassof2010 6 months ago
how do we know this!? it's amazing..
PenguinCookies94 6 months ago
if you do simple math, you must see that the probabilities of evolution occurring are absolutely impossible. Evolution is a vile, cruel and hateful religion, that states man is god, it is the great lie of the deceiver and he is laughing at all of you for believing it. My hope and prayer is that God shine His light and truth upon you that you may see and hear and live and breath the reality that you were created for His purpose, glory, love, and joy, that you not forsake His free give and live.
persevere67 6 months ago
@persevere67 Evolution is about biology, not about math.
And you clearly know nothing of either subject. So just shut up.
ScientificBob 6 months ago
@persevere67 The mathematical probability studies are meaningless. They don't take into account the nature of atoms or molecules, they just assume that everything comes together randomly. According to them the likelihood of four carbon atoms attaching to one hydrogen atom would be the same as four hydrogen atoms to one carbon. It's very telling that the creationist crowd has always referred to scientific explanations of the origins of life as an 'accident'. They clearly don't want to get it.
JustinMShaw 6 months ago
@persevere67 It doesn't even state man as God, nor it is a religion.
Know what Evolution is first, lol.
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robicedilnik 6 months ago
so nature cant make codes ?
then does gravity not make stars and planets ?
Just because we dont understand something doesnt make it logical to substitute GOD as the answer. Christianity assumed that god "created" the earth in a day, Christianity assumed that the sun and the universe revolves around our earth, now you are assuming that DNA is created by god and we popped into existance out of thin air. Im sorry but christian pseudo science doesn't have a very good track record.
muchookees 6 months ago 2
Wait, so DNA don't fold up into chromosomes untill they need to split? So in a normal cell there's unwound DNA strands floating about inside the nucleus? Or are they just folded up into chromatin?
MonicaKn17 6 months ago
@MonicaKn17 IIRC in a normal state (not splitting) it is just all over the place.
MrrGrave 6 months ago
So you're saying that information is conserved except in minds where it is created? That is not backed by evidence, though there is an unsubstantiated ID hypothesis that information is created in complex molecules evolving over time. As far as evidence of false beliefs almost all past ones would work. What comes to mind first for me is geologic history - first blaming giants and floods, then recognizing tectonics and erosion but denying cataclysmic eruptions or collisions, and back to floods.
JustinMShaw 6 months ago
@JustinMShaw No im saying that only minds can actually produce information in the form that we see in DNA(4 Alphabets,Instructions for proteins) .Im not saying nature cant produce information like make it so that it is true that x is a cold experiment since that would be a fact and thus information. Point is nature cannot produce written information and code and instructions is what I mean.This is substantiated since only intelligence can 'know' which instructions and code are correct for a task
RaytownSoClassof2010 6 months ago
@RaytownSoClassof2010 It's not substantiated. You're making an assumption that nature cannot create a code, you're making another assumption that when minds make codes information is being created rather than simply rearranged. Creating any world-view by declaring all other views "impossible" is a bad way to go - it's the method of religious zealotry, not rational thinking.
JustinMShaw 6 months ago 2
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RaytownSoClassof2010 6 months ago
@JustinMShaw You're making an assumption that nature cannot create a code" Yes because nature is blind and has no mind, Code are things that have a message and they contian information with meaning, Sorry but nature doesn't do this because it isnt capable."making another assumption that when minds make codes information is being created rather than simply rearranged." When you make a language that contains alphabets and write instructions for molecular machines that is creating information
RaytownSoClassof2010 6 months ago
@RaytownSoClassof2010 So you're not really presenting an argument, you're just stating beliefs. That's fine and thanks for sharing, but it makes your original question of why people don't blindly accept a designer posted on a science video slightly out of place. The evidence we have so far does not lean either for or against a designer. We have yet to witness all of the environments and possibly chemical combinations that were involved in the emergence of life.
JustinMShaw 6 months ago
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RaytownSoClassof2010 6 months ago
Beliefs? It isnt a belief that information comes only from mind. Since information comes from a source that was informed about the subject, But in order to be informed you must know something and thus intelligence. You can pretend im stating beliefs if you want but that doesn't help you.I asked why people don't blindly accept a designer?When? Strawman I say. We do have evidence for a designer,Information. And chemical combinations cant write a language with information so thats false.
RaytownSoClassof2010 6 months ago
@RaytownSoClassof2010 Your defenitions are all messed up. Information exists independently from minds. For example, there is information in the light emitted by a star about said star - wheter there is an astronomer interpreting it or not. Interpretation is key here.
But suppose you have a molecule that triggers a certain behavior when exposed to a specific type of light. That would mean that the molecule "uses" the information of the star to do something. No mind required.
ScientificBob 6 months ago
@RaytownSoClassof2010 "in order to be informed you must know something and thus intelligence"
This is the same type of error. You are talking about interpretation again, not about 'information'.
Interaction between properties is not the same as interpreting information.
That's all life is in essence: interacting molecules. And the molecules change over generations. And the "best working" interactions are the ones that spread in the population. No mind required.
ScientificBob 6 months ago
@ScientificBob Your thinking about a totally different type of information than me, Im talking about information with a message that tells something to do something by giving specific instructions, That is what DNA is, It has a four letter alphabet regardless if weather or not anyone recognizes it. DNA has letters,Punctuation etc. It is a language,A LANGUAGE with letters can only come from mind. Replication doesn't require a mind, But the information in DNA does, Get over it.
RaytownSoClassof2010 6 months ago
@RaytownSoClassof2010 "information with a message that tells something to do something by giving specific instructions" Indeed, which is not what DNA is.
DNA is a molecular chain that interacts with other molecules. Certain types of molecules trigger certain things based on properties of that molecule. This is what you are calling "letters".
This is completely wrong and shows your ignorance on both biology as well as information theory.
ScientificBob 6 months ago