If I would play something like this at home my wife would kill me. For me as a guitar player these are great skills. But to listen to it as a non-guitarist is heavy stuff...
The late Derek Bailey played as though The Guitar had descended from the sky and had no baggage attached to it. That he could free guitar–playing from all the whimsical, ‘heard it all before’ nonsense that people STILL insist on making heralds the man as a genius. RECOGNISE.
And yes, I listen to Metal. And Classical. And Jazz, Techno, funk, and other genres too wide–ranging to list. I also love free improv, big whoop.
The sad part s the people who are commenting about Bailey's playing have no idea about his background. He was, for many, many years, a guitarist in a big band setting and also accompanied many traditional jazz and popular singers in England in a conventional style. In the mid-1960's, he decided to move into freer jazz and ultimately wound up here. You can certainly dislike what he chose but whether he can play the guitar is not an issue-he did so, professionally, for many years.
Man, I try to stay open to all kinds of music but this guy and Henry Kaiser are so far outside the box, they are in another dimension. In my opinion, this is a bunch of random white noise.
I get the feeling that self-proclaimed art experts listen to this and decide that it is somehow good. I can see that this guy definitely has knowledge of the fretboard, but he sounds absolutely terrible. If there was a set tempo or melody at any given time, I could see this man making a song that I could enjoy, but this is purely cacophonous noise that you couldn't pay me to listen to on a regular basis. The people who "like" this video are either completely idiotic or brilliant. I suspect dumb.
@trimetaler i think either you dont really know anything about free jazz or technical abiliy or you aren't realizing how refined his style is. If you know anything about jazz guitar you should be able to see that his hands are highly formed and he is playing licks and patterns based off of ideas that have been practiced for a lifetime.
Apparently, people think that this guy is some sort of pioneer or is operating on a level of artistry that they just don't understand. I'm not buying it. I see an old guy who never learned how to properly handle a guitar, just making noise. There is no musicality involved in this whatsoever. This guy is a bigger con man than Fred Phelps.
@kolby386 y'know, it'd be real helpful if the derek bailey "critics" here at least took 2 minutes to read the wikipedia entry on the guy before shitting their " he cant play lol" kneejerk responses all over this video. it's pretty hard to have a meaningful conversation if one side knows absolutely zero about the subject at hand, don't you agree?
@kolby386 i don't think anything other than that this is beautiful music that i love to listen to. Derek Bailey is one of the most important figures in contemporary music. Do you like many different styles of jazz? Do you like classical music from different time periods? Do you train your mind and your ear over long periods of time to increase your musicality and understand music on a continuously higher level? Have you played an instrument for half a century? Derek bailey did.
@edcerc I just don't see it. Making music that is inaccessible or difficult for no reason other than the sake of it sounding difficult or inaccessible is something I can't get behind. While I'm all for experimenting with timbre and dissonance and what have you, this is just ridiculous.
@kolby386 its not music made for the sake of sounding difficult its just what he likes to do and what i like to listen too. I just listen to this because i like it maybe if you had more of a historical context you would appreciate it more. I've been listening to derek for years and its not strange to me its just what i think of as typical good music. He is highly skilled and probably my favorite guitar player ever. Do you like coltrane or albert ayler or cecil taylor or schoenberg or john cage?
@tjuo77 4'33" was an exercise to show that any thing (even audience reactions) could be music. Cage may have been the least pompous and pretentious musician who ever lived.
First of all, this is not music, by saying that I don't say that he doesn't know how to play... what he is doing is making myb some king of art sounds, and it is not totally rubish, but tis isn't music!!!...
@dodetina This is not music by your definition. That is not to say that it is not music. The western Diatonic system is only one definition of what is music. If it is an art form then Derek is a abstract impressionist pushing the boundaries. It is still music, much like Cy Twombly was a painter, and he made paintings... paintings that leave me wondering about if they actually are painting, they are. Just because I don't get it does not invalidate it.
@vozdacaverna Really? You are such a black sucking hole of a human being, a horrid little evil hateful spite filled monster, you are reveling in his death? You don't get his work, so be it. You think he is pretensious? Pretense doesn'tt invalidate his work. As for felatio, I fear you and others who harbor similar feelings as you are the ones sucking the devil's dick. (and yeah that is a metaphor) Grow up.
Derek Bailey is to music what Maplethorpe is to art. Its pretty much crap no one actually likes. They simply say they like it to be "progressive" thinkers.
funny how you seem to know intimately every person on this planet. There's a whole scene dedicated to this music, thousands of fans, players, enthusiasts, but they do it just to impress? Big words man, big words.
@megast2 I don't. It was a broad assumption. Another broad assumption that could be made and would be accurate without intimately knowing everyone on the planet is that Derek Bailey is an inferior guitarist when compared to Joe Pass.
well broad, and wrong, assumption, considering you state that no one likes Derek Baileys music. That can not be based on anything else than feebre reasoning. Also to compare Joe Pass to Derek Bailey is useless as well, since they have absolutely different approaches, styles and vocabulary. To say Bailey is inferior, is about as reasonable as to say "Swedish is an inferior language to Portuguese". Pointless, narrow sighted and a boring way to think.
@megast2 It's funny how into this guy you are. To each their own I guess. I would compare his music to the greatness of a public speaker making nothing but fart noises with his mouth and slapping him self in the forehead. Trust me, I am very much into experimental music and have a surprisingly broad taste. A guitarist watching this guy play is as painful as a drummer watching someone play drums with sausages while hitting the drum heads about 10% of the time. Sure, it's art. But not musical.
@rutherk1g well, to me, he's one of the most interesting and singularly creative musicians I've ever heard. He's approach is just so fresh and inventive, that it makes me appreciate him more and more every time I hear him. It makes me feel very, very good. And the duets with John Stevens are about some of the best music ever, and as a drummer I can appreciate Stevens from a "professional" point of view as well.
This guy is amazing. Why have I only just (accidentally) discovered him? He looks like an old slippers and pipe man, then he takes his guitar out of its case and he sounds more outrageous than Jimi Hendrix. He totally pushes it to the limit. Superb.
For those who are interested his biography excellently reveals how a working class youth from Sheffield with an extensive knowledge and ability in music actually came to play this difficult but rewarding music.
This music demands to be listened to carefully with no letting up. Plus you need to be in the mood- it can be exhausting.
most people here a 13 year old dumbshit (and yes being 13 years old automatically makes you a dumbshit) who think linkin park consitutes the pinnacle of music. or even worse, nerdy metalheads who think fast guitar arpeggios consitute the pinnacle of music. please die.
@RappoldXJay I can assure you that I am neither of those things. I can therefore assure you that what you are hearing in this video is not music in the slightest. Just because you've figured out how to strum a few obscure guitar chords and pick a few acoustic harmonics does not mean that you are a musician.
@kolby386 Thank you for telling me what I should or should not like and what is or is not music. I really appreciate it. Now, who should I vote for and what should I wear tomorrow?
@RappoldXJay No. Most people here are pretentious twats who think that strumming random strings on a guitar and playing random notes make one a skilled musician.
Or even worse, that people who force themselves to listen to this shit are "intelligent" and can "appreciate good music".
I bet you'll respond to me in a manner like "Oh, this true ART is just too DEEP for you.". Go fuck yourself, you pretentious piece of shit.
@tauwilltriumph he is not playing random notes, there is in fact a logic to what he is doing. have you tried to play dissonant music before? its surprising how hard it actually is to create and how repetitive randomness will sound. there are plenty of aesthetic reasons to not enjoy music this dissonant, and it doesnt make you less intelligent to not like it. but you simply cannot write this off as an idiot flailing around randomly on an instrument
@RappoldXJay no i think people like miles davis, beethoven, and chick corea show the pinnacle of music, not this. this is what happens when you play bad on purpose and call it art. It is art, just not the type I like. To me this if this was a painting it would be just splatters on a sheet of paper. It's creative and can sometimes be cool but when you get down to it you only have splattered paint.
@RappoldXJay I love more or less every style of music under the sun, even some experimental stuff. This, however, is some moron playing whatever the hell he wants with his guitar and a bunch of idiots supporting him in order to appear original and cultured.
On the one hand, there's discordant music that works; this certainly doesn't.
I am not a huge fan of Linkin Park, but they're a mile better than Derek Bailey. I expect to be flamed, but I seriously don't care, just had to share my opinion.
@jimmyjimbo72 “When you encounter something you do not understand, do not dismiss it as misconstructed, damaged or irrelevant.” I've always found Derek Bailey to be a test of how entrenched in guitar tradition a listener is.
@Rascaduanok You know what? You're right, I don't understand. How does something this terrible receive so much love? I'm not claiming that he can't play guitar at all; I've read that he used to play in big jazz groups rather well. This, however, is just a mess. Whether or not one is entrenched in guitar tradition, there's nothing redeeming about it at all.
ok, so i've watch a few Derek Bailey videos. are these tunes composed, or is he just a lousy improvisor??
I'm worried that he's giving avant-garde jazz a bad name, and the people in the background seem to pretend to "get" it.
if picasso ONLY painted in his abstract cubism style, his work would have little merit... can this guy do ANYthing else? if he could play something else, i maybe could respect him, but this is just no good.
Can somebody explain how this music isn't bullshit?
he plays actual musical chords that would be perceived in western music as 'false'. it has to do with chaos theory. try looking up Atonality. like with this, you cant judge cubism or any 'art' without a bit of context
well most of the best and most rewarding music takes a little getting used to. If I just based my opinions of how comfortable i was during the first listen, I (or anyone) would be missing out. The best music takes experience working out your ears and mind. The first time i heard Derek I was Interested but it wasnt my priority. After I heard it in context with serial music and avant jazz it just clicked for me. I mean i wasnt even that into Bach when i first heard his work, imagine that.
Derek bailey was a "regular" jazz guitarist and accomplished session musician before starting with this kinda stuff, something you could have easily looked up on wikipedia before writing this comment dipshit.
no , precisamente entiendo y se lo que toca porque yo soy guitarrista , es decir , que quiere decir con lo que toca ? que es lo que expresa ? vos que sentis cuando escuchas este tipo de cosas ?, yo siento como que me gopleo el codo y me da como electricidad , con todo respeto delcielo , saludos
este tipo de musica es simplemente horrible , el que me dice que le gusta no le creo , las extravagancias cualquiera las hace , lo dificil es ser simple como bach
zorroparoldi, a mi me gusta, y mucho. escucho los discos con atencion, y los disfruto como disfruto a beefheart, a los beatles, ayler, fugazi o malher. si te parece horrible es probablemente porque no la entiendes. asi de simple.
simple como bach??? de hecho las unicas piezas simples son de musica de hogar y cosas asi, gran parte es complejisima contrapuntisticamente hablando y tambien en cuanto a ejecución.. mira el juego de pedales en las piezas de organo, que eso no es para nada de facil.
En cuanto al video, es un estilo distinto del que te gusta simplemente, al tener intencion de arte esta sujeto a juicios y este es uno mas, y si, a alguien le puede gustar; es un movimiento que tiene bases, no es algo que salga asi
las variaciones gold. , el clave , son obras que no son complejas harmonicamente , a eso me refiero che controlador ...a que te referis con bases ? a ver si entendi : pegarle una patada a un perro puede ser arte entonces , si te gusta y tenes estomago ta todo bien , sera que soy muy sensible y "no entiendo" de musica viste . en fin ... saludos desde san luis
I love dissonant orchestral music, dissonant piano... but dissonant guitar just sounds kinda silly. I guess I just don't have much interest in going out of my way to hear it, as you can hear it anytime you walk into a guitar store
so there's nothing else about this music than dissonance? that's all? when you listen to modern piano playing, you do it because it has dissonance? same with orchestral music? wtf.
I'm just simply stating my opinion that i like the way dissonant harmonies sound when played by an instruments orchestra or by a piano because of their specific timbre qualities. I just don't find the way it sounds on guitar appealing, sorry. People are allowed to like things other than what you do, chill out man
A sophisticated improvisation is the kind that you can repeat, even if it originally didn't come from anything written. You should be able to hear it first in your head, otherwise the improvisation comes from the instrument, not you. Joe Pass certainly had something to say about this.
perhaps bailey would be able to repeat it, who knows, who cares. that may be impressive but has little to do with the actual music. joe pass's opinion on what constitutes a 'sophisticated improvisation' is perhaps interesting to some people.
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Wow. I almost want to say this is worse than Nickelback, but that would be stretching it. Still, they're both impossible to listen to without wanting to force a knitting needle through your tympanic membranes.
wOW whAT a MASTER of his own SOUND WORLd!..i believe that this is heaping with exPRESSiveness, which translates to EMOTION- howEVER abstract it may seem....open yer ears, naysayers!!!....OTHER sound WORLds EXist!!!!....this is a brilliant solo performance by a MASTER to mine earz.
@ADURG1 you fucking idiot, can you honestly not see the joke is on you?? i have seen plenty of people play like this guy, just look up on youtube "best guitar solo ever" and you will see 1 guy do exactly this....do you really believe that a bunch of twats humouring an old man who clearly NEVER learned to play the instrument REALLY believe hes playing it?!?!?
@TheLydianRocks Look up his bio. He started playing when he was 10 and can actually play guitar. He can play jazz, you retard. And you can't even play mainstream shit.
@DisembodiedLoaf why cant i play jazz or mainstream shit? because i dont have a video camera?? hahaha great use of logic mate, and no, he sucks, sorry but this is art not music, wrong category
wtf. who listens to this. sure its impressive that hes able to play that on purpose but still it gives off nooo emotion and isnt pleasing to the ear at allll wtffff
My absolute favourite passage starts at 4:52 - 5:02. Funny thing is that it sounds like it builds up to those flurries he comes out with. You can hear the music has an internal logic to it, the more you listen to it over and over, the more you can hear it.
I tell you one thing, I've listened to a lot of Derek Bailey records and CDs, but nothing prepared me for actually SEEING him create the music. I wish I'd seen him live... ‹sighs abound›
This guy's technique is amazing--to be able to hit the array of notes and timbres he hits with the consistency and purpose with which he hits them is something. That being said, this isn't the sort of thing you'd play at a party to get people dancing.
I agree. He plays the guitar like it's just descended from the sky and has no baggage or history attached to it. Music lost a great guitar player when Mr Bailey passed on...
1. Each of these things can be compared, despite differences, because they are systems; & in order to appreciate a system one must have some kind of an understanding of it. I don't empathise with football because it doesn't interest me but I wouldn't make the mistake of thinking my lack of interest regarding it was some kind of limitation it has. That's a limitation I have - because I am not interested; & so I have not taken time to deepen my understanding in such a way as to appreciate it.
2. It's the same re. improv, Bailey etc. If you don't do the work or if it does not capture your imagination, it will go over your head. So many - too many - see that as alack in the art rather than in themselves.
Why is it that, in appreciating art, it is fine and dandy to do so from a position of ignorance - saying 'I don't know much about art, but I know what I like'? That's rubbish, surely? One would not look at a game of football, for instance, and without understanding any of the rules of the game or the motivations of its players, say 'I knownothing about this, but I know I think it's rubbish'. More work is needed on behalf of the viewer.
(next part of the previous comment) but you can as well make something else that's difficult to make following some useless rules then, that has to do with art, only with showing how smart you are
The ears feed into the brain; and avant-garde art is for that organ, not for tapping your foot to. It may just be that this music is beyond you because of a lack in you rather than the same in Bailey.
Derek Bailey was, without doubt, one of the most original guitarists, and amongst the most serious and dedicated contributors to that instrument, who ever lived. Whether you like what you hear - ie. whether it pleases your ear - or not is only part of how one might attempt to understand this music.
I love youtube comments. They tend to be even funnier and more misinformed than, say, blogger or wordpress. Maybe it's because its a site dedicated to visual media; as opposed to words, reading and all that.
i like some of derek bailey's stuff but most of it is just the same shit over and over again (always with the damn harmonics...). and on all the videos ive seen he just looks bored rather than involved, as if it's just arsing around. which he probably was. when you look at free improvisers on other instruments (piano, horns) he seems very uninspired in comparison
In music there are no wrong or right notes. Nothing is played correctly because there is no right or wrong way to play anything. Music is anything you can play and make happen. It's all up in the air. No one can judge anything anyone plays because all they have to back themselves up is tradition.
did you ever hear about a thing called science,and a specific kind of science called physics,and in physics the researched sound, and they saw that with a sound many other sounds sounded togeter with it,and some specific intervals a lot harder than others, and that our brains capture who sound harder with the sound played before differently so you get a feeling of stability,...The complete explanation is a lot longer,but all I want to say is that there's more than tradition,tonality has a reasen
I agree that tonality has reason. I completely agree with that. But music is what I'm talking about, and it has no barriers. I agree with you, but I'm just trying to get my point across.
allright, allways nice to agree :), I thought you were one of these guys who think that just nothing has a reason and that you can just play anything, that you just need to get used to things that sound good. I think the best thing in music is that once you now what's possible en what's not in harmony you can search other ways, other things, and introduce them in a beautyfull way in harmony, and this has nog barriers indeed.
darkrapsody makes a good point, The tuning system and compositional methods of most Western music only developed over the past 300 years, Earlier tuning would sound odd, even dissonant, to modern audiences, Nobody is forcing anyone to listen. By the way, Miles Davis did not invent Free Jazz, though--he was virulently opposed to the real inventors, like Ornette Coleman and Cecil Taylor, until he changed HIS mind. But life is too short to be offended or upset about music, Let us like what we like!
This blows is an honest reaction, but not an objective critique. Many of those who say this isn't music have no idea (or inclinattion) to understand music beyond what they already know. So, go somewhere else, guys. I can't stand Lou Reed... but you won't find me crapping all over his YouTube posts. So, really, please don't waste everyone's time.
I think is the right time, to understand the music beyond the harmony. Is there a wolrd of sounds we could listen to, without any parameter, and we always had to do it... I mean... Do ya know all the world of expressions we loss by depreciating them?
I'm so glad so many people it's doing stuff like this: Akira Yamaoka, Omar Rodriguez-Lopez, Animal Collective, CocoRosie, Shugo Tokumaru...
I agree too with carlmk85: The line beween madness and genious is so very fine. You have to see it, guys: Miles Davis, with the great technique habilities he has, was the creator of the Free Jazz, back to the basics... And, for example, Omar Rodriguez-Lopez, never studied music in form... He's just an amazing intuitive guitarrist and musicians...
BTW, Did ya know the history about the changes in the tuning of A? Man... This shit 'bout music is relative! Never forget it... It's an amazing construction, but sometimes we have to break the rules.
@garygomesg lou reed is not my cup of tea either but if you cant tell the difference between lou reed and this guy then you probably dont even know what an instrment is, if you do know anything at all about music :even if you only listen to pop which isnt knowing anything about music, shame on you lol you are old enough to know better, this is not avante garde bullshit, shit is just bullshit..
@TheLydianRocks I have played keyboard since I was 13 (I'm 58 now); I played lots of different kinds of music, including blues, classical, mainstream and free jazz. I happen to like this guy. The first of his records I heard was a duet he put out on ECM records with the bassist Dave Holland (who played cello). Ever heard Anton Webern\, Messiaen, Stockhausen? (I've listened to ALL kinds of music, by the way.) This improv is based on that. I like it and really could care less about your opinion.
Yes it is terrible. It's sad to watch what sounds like a mentally ill old man.
Why is it thought that people like Bailey and Oxley choose to "advance" from harmony and consistent rhythm? Perhaps they did not choose to. Perhaps their "language" expresses the incoherence of a fragmented psyche; madness.
I find it intriguing to listen to - it stretches my ideas around harmonics & metre - I also find actually watching his fingering educational. Like all avant guarde or improvisational, jazz, I savour the sounds without trying to find something else to relate it to. It is clear that Derek Bailey made a good living from playing extended techniques. I'm comforted by the fact that this shows there were enough people interested in listening to his different approaches without pre-judgement. Thanks.
Really? Are you a music theorist? Then perhaps you can point out what's "wrong" with this playing. If not, if you're simply a music listener who is turned off by disharmony or arhythmia, then you do not understand what is "wrong" or "right" about his playing.
If I would play something like this at home my wife would kill me. For me as a guitar player these are great skills. But to listen to it as a non-guitarist is heavy stuff...
MuggerRingo 1 week ago
"Experimental music that doesn't experiment with anything"
xjtyu 4 months ago
The late Derek Bailey played as though The Guitar had descended from the sky and had no baggage attached to it. That he could free guitar–playing from all the whimsical, ‘heard it all before’ nonsense that people STILL insist on making heralds the man as a genius. RECOGNISE.
And yes, I listen to Metal. And Classical. And Jazz, Techno, funk, and other genres too wide–ranging to list. I also love free improv, big whoop.
Rascaduanok 4 months ago
I love you so much. I miss you Grandad.
chocoholics55 5 months ago
The sad part s the people who are commenting about Bailey's playing have no idea about his background. He was, for many, many years, a guitarist in a big band setting and also accompanied many traditional jazz and popular singers in England in a conventional style. In the mid-1960's, he decided to move into freer jazz and ultimately wound up here. You can certainly dislike what he chose but whether he can play the guitar is not an issue-he did so, professionally, for many years.
garygomesg 6 months ago
Man, I try to stay open to all kinds of music but this guy and Henry Kaiser are so far outside the box, they are in another dimension. In my opinion, this is a bunch of random white noise.
fyrcrack 8 months ago
I get the feeling that self-proclaimed art experts listen to this and decide that it is somehow good. I can see that this guy definitely has knowledge of the fretboard, but he sounds absolutely terrible. If there was a set tempo or melody at any given time, I could see this man making a song that I could enjoy, but this is purely cacophonous noise that you couldn't pay me to listen to on a regular basis. The people who "like" this video are either completely idiotic or brilliant. I suspect dumb.
Smithha85 8 months ago
I think Yngwie and him should perform a duet
bornburied 10 months ago
this is a bad joke, yes & good thing he tuned 1st wouldn't want to hit an off note or have anythg sound out of sorts..
MOSKII58 11 months ago
sounds like this is one of those staged videos with somone else purposely copying what he is doing and making it sound intentailly horrid..
MOSKII58 1 year ago
@MOSKII58 intentially isn't a word. you are a moron. go away. this rules. the end.
twadorno666 11 months ago
@twadorno666 your ass rules, with no intent so screw you very much
MOSKII58 11 months ago
anyone have tabs*?
lacoocoorocha 1 year ago 2
anyone tabs?
lacoocoorocha 1 year ago
Question; If you're all saying what makes someone an incompetent musician, then what is it that makes this so special? Is this is even music?
MrGameAndGuitar 1 year ago
4:03 was the best... hahahahahahahahahaha
It's hard to appreciate music when the finger agility and technical ability is that of a 15 year old kid; learning Metallica in high school.
trimetaler 1 year ago
@trimetaler i think either you dont really know anything about free jazz or technical abiliy or you aren't realizing how refined his style is. If you know anything about jazz guitar you should be able to see that his hands are highly formed and he is playing licks and patterns based off of ideas that have been practiced for a lifetime.
edcerc 10 months ago
That Poor Guitar D:
Samgraham17 1 year ago 4
I'm not even gonna comment because what I'm about to say will land me firmly in Hell.
Mousler100 1 year ago
there is some skill in this - but what a waste
777i2i 1 year ago
improvisa
pachodavila 1 year ago
this would sound sick with a heavy distorted guitar and drummer
que2pineapple 1 year ago
Apparently, people think that this guy is some sort of pioneer or is operating on a level of artistry that they just don't understand. I'm not buying it. I see an old guy who never learned how to properly handle a guitar, just making noise. There is no musicality involved in this whatsoever. This guy is a bigger con man than Fred Phelps.
kolby386 1 year ago
@kolby386 y'know, it'd be real helpful if the derek bailey "critics" here at least took 2 minutes to read the wikipedia entry on the guy before shitting their " he cant play lol" kneejerk responses all over this video. it's pretty hard to have a meaningful conversation if one side knows absolutely zero about the subject at hand, don't you agree?
RappoldXJay 1 year ago 2
@kolby386 i don't think anything other than that this is beautiful music that i love to listen to. Derek Bailey is one of the most important figures in contemporary music. Do you like many different styles of jazz? Do you like classical music from different time periods? Do you train your mind and your ear over long periods of time to increase your musicality and understand music on a continuously higher level? Have you played an instrument for half a century? Derek bailey did.
edcerc 1 year ago
@edcerc I just don't see it. Making music that is inaccessible or difficult for no reason other than the sake of it sounding difficult or inaccessible is something I can't get behind. While I'm all for experimenting with timbre and dissonance and what have you, this is just ridiculous.
@RappoldXJay Exactly.
kolby386 10 months ago
@kolby386 its not music made for the sake of sounding difficult its just what he likes to do and what i like to listen too. I just listen to this because i like it maybe if you had more of a historical context you would appreciate it more. I've been listening to derek for years and its not strange to me its just what i think of as typical good music. He is highly skilled and probably my favorite guitar player ever. Do you like coltrane or albert ayler or cecil taylor or schoenberg or john cage?
edcerc 10 months ago
Pretentious rubbish. Almost at the level of John Cage and his 4'33!
tjuo77 1 year ago
@tjuo77 john cage's sonatas and interludes for piano are awe inspiring.
edcerc 1 year ago
@tjuo77 4'33" was an exercise to show that any thing (even audience reactions) could be music. Cage may have been the least pompous and pretentious musician who ever lived.
garygomesg 6 months ago 2
Now, where do I get tabs for that?
Draugoth 1 year ago
Cool stuff. Definitely not for the "I only like what I already know" folks.
waldo2384 1 year ago
this is not music. random sounds maybe. so he knows how to hit harmonics and scrape strings, big deal. but he shares my birthday
beansuxcox 1 year ago
i hope you are getting raped in hell you fucking old faggot. god black metal makes this sound good. Fuck you old shit. I feel so sorry for the guitar
assassinick 1 year ago
This is easily the most retarded thing I have ever heard.
Pwnology 1 year ago
Good thing he checked to see if he was in tune. That could have sounded horrible!
Jrg320 1 year ago 23
@Jrg320 > I really liked this performance, but I must admit this comment was brilliant!!! LMFAO!!!
boowannabe 1 year ago
First of all, this is not music, by saying that I don't say that he doesn't know how to play... what he is doing is making myb some king of art sounds, and it is not totally rubish, but tis isn't music!!!...
dodetina 1 year ago
@dodetina This is not music by your definition. That is not to say that it is not music. The western Diatonic system is only one definition of what is music. If it is an art form then Derek is a abstract impressionist pushing the boundaries. It is still music, much like Cy Twombly was a painter, and he made paintings... paintings that leave me wondering about if they actually are painting, they are. Just because I don't get it does not invalidate it.
geoPhaze 1 year ago
It is so much nmore effective, if you listen without watching.... then your ears really do perk up at this weird, fun sound.
Zepster77 1 year ago
@Zepster77 this is completely true.
geoPhaze 1 year ago
had this cranked up at a party last weekend..chicks everywhere..
ewe2oobes 1 year ago
I don't get it?
MrMichaelEdie 1 year ago
thank god this horrid awfulness know as derek bailey IS DEAD
i hope your choking on the devils'dick you pretensious asshole
vozdacaverna 1 year ago
@vozdacaverna Really? You are such a black sucking hole of a human being, a horrid little evil hateful spite filled monster, you are reveling in his death? You don't get his work, so be it. You think he is pretensious? Pretense doesn'tt invalidate his work. As for felatio, I fear you and others who harbor similar feelings as you are the ones sucking the devil's dick. (and yeah that is a metaphor) Grow up.
geoPhaze 1 year ago
the most pretentious rubbish i have ever heard.
jamesharvey101 1 year ago
derek bailey is a legend; he opened up so many possibilities for the guitar and even till now, no one has picked up where he left off
horrontologist 1 year ago
@horrontologist
He opened the guitar ,then proceeded to rip its vocal chords off.
Then he raped it.
sfakianos7 1 year ago
ooh god. horrible to my ears, maybe good for somes.
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FilTonks 1 year ago
Derek Bailey is to music what Maplethorpe is to art. Its pretty much crap no one actually likes. They simply say they like it to be "progressive" thinkers.
rutherk1g 1 year ago
@rutherk1g thank you for setting the record straight
musicforspeeding 1 year ago
@ruther1g:
funny how you seem to know intimately every person on this planet. There's a whole scene dedicated to this music, thousands of fans, players, enthusiasts, but they do it just to impress? Big words man, big words.
megast2 1 year ago
@megast2 I don't. It was a broad assumption. Another broad assumption that could be made and would be accurate without intimately knowing everyone on the planet is that Derek Bailey is an inferior guitarist when compared to Joe Pass.
rutherk1g 1 year ago
@rutherk1g
well broad, and wrong, assumption, considering you state that no one likes Derek Baileys music. That can not be based on anything else than feebre reasoning. Also to compare Joe Pass to Derek Bailey is useless as well, since they have absolutely different approaches, styles and vocabulary. To say Bailey is inferior, is about as reasonable as to say "Swedish is an inferior language to Portuguese". Pointless, narrow sighted and a boring way to think.
megast2 1 year ago
@megast2 It's funny how into this guy you are. To each their own I guess. I would compare his music to the greatness of a public speaker making nothing but fart noises with his mouth and slapping him self in the forehead. Trust me, I am very much into experimental music and have a surprisingly broad taste. A guitarist watching this guy play is as painful as a drummer watching someone play drums with sausages while hitting the drum heads about 10% of the time. Sure, it's art. But not musical.
rutherk1g 1 year ago
@rutherk1g well, to me, he's one of the most interesting and singularly creative musicians I've ever heard. He's approach is just so fresh and inventive, that it makes me appreciate him more and more every time I hear him. It makes me feel very, very good. And the duets with John Stevens are about some of the best music ever, and as a drummer I can appreciate Stevens from a "professional" point of view as well.
megast2 1 year ago
This guy is amazing. Why have I only just (accidentally) discovered him? He looks like an old slippers and pipe man, then he takes his guitar out of its case and he sounds more outrageous than Jimi Hendrix. He totally pushes it to the limit. Superb.
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LustForHate 1 year ago
i agree with RappoldXJay. free your mind and your ass will follow.
rehgrafrehgraf 2 years ago
whats going on here guys?
CornDoctor 2 years ago
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THIS GUY IS A TOTAL FAIL ON GUITAR!!!
DontTazerMeBro 2 years ago
For those who are interested his biography excellently reveals how a working class youth from Sheffield with an extensive knowledge and ability in music actually came to play this difficult but rewarding music.
This music demands to be listened to carefully with no letting up. Plus you need to be in the mood- it can be exhausting.
dwemmy 2 years ago
most people here a 13 year old dumbshit (and yes being 13 years old automatically makes you a dumbshit) who think linkin park consitutes the pinnacle of music. or even worse, nerdy metalheads who think fast guitar arpeggios consitute the pinnacle of music. please die.
RappoldXJay 2 years ago 11
Thank you. It's about time a more sensible comment was posted on this video.
kly45 2 years ago
@RappoldXJay I can assure you that I am neither of those things. I can therefore assure you that what you are hearing in this video is not music in the slightest. Just because you've figured out how to strum a few obscure guitar chords and pick a few acoustic harmonics does not mean that you are a musician.
kolby386 1 year ago
@kolby386 Thank you for telling me what I should or should not like and what is or is not music. I really appreciate it. Now, who should I vote for and what should I wear tomorrow?
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Ekilla9402 1 year ago
@RappoldXJay No. Most people here are pretentious twats who think that strumming random strings on a guitar and playing random notes make one a skilled musician.
Or even worse, that people who force themselves to listen to this shit are "intelligent" and can "appreciate good music".
I bet you'll respond to me in a manner like "Oh, this true ART is just too DEEP for you.". Go fuck yourself, you pretentious piece of shit.
tauwilltriumph 1 year ago 7
@tauwilltriumph he is not playing random notes, there is in fact a logic to what he is doing. have you tried to play dissonant music before? its surprising how hard it actually is to create and how repetitive randomness will sound. there are plenty of aesthetic reasons to not enjoy music this dissonant, and it doesnt make you less intelligent to not like it. but you simply cannot write this off as an idiot flailing around randomly on an instrument
MickeyMacaroney 4 days ago
@RappoldXJay hahahahahaha
kenrubes 9 months ago
@RappoldXJay no i think people like miles davis, beethoven, and chick corea show the pinnacle of music, not this. this is what happens when you play bad on purpose and call it art. It is art, just not the type I like. To me this if this was a painting it would be just splatters on a sheet of paper. It's creative and can sometimes be cool but when you get down to it you only have splattered paint.
happyface4444 8 months ago
@RappoldXJay I love more or less every style of music under the sun, even some experimental stuff. This, however, is some moron playing whatever the hell he wants with his guitar and a bunch of idiots supporting him in order to appear original and cultured.
On the one hand, there's discordant music that works; this certainly doesn't.
I am not a huge fan of Linkin Park, but they're a mile better than Derek Bailey. I expect to be flamed, but I seriously don't care, just had to share my opinion.
jimmyjimbo72 4 months ago
@jimmyjimbo72 “When you encounter something you do not understand, do not dismiss it as misconstructed, damaged or irrelevant.” I've always found Derek Bailey to be a test of how entrenched in guitar tradition a listener is.
Rascaduanok 4 months ago
@Rascaduanok You know what? You're right, I don't understand. How does something this terrible receive so much love? I'm not claiming that he can't play guitar at all; I've read that he used to play in big jazz groups rather well. This, however, is just a mess. Whether or not one is entrenched in guitar tradition, there's nothing redeeming about it at all.
jimmyjimbo72 4 months ago
ok, so i've watch a few Derek Bailey videos. are these tunes composed, or is he just a lousy improvisor??
I'm worried that he's giving avant-garde jazz a bad name, and the people in the background seem to pretend to "get" it.
if picasso ONLY painted in his abstract cubism style, his work would have little merit... can this guy do ANYthing else? if he could play something else, i maybe could respect him, but this is just no good.
Can somebody explain how this music isn't bullshit?
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he plays actual musical chords that would be perceived in western music as 'false'. it has to do with chaos theory. try looking up Atonality. like with this, you cant judge cubism or any 'art' without a bit of context
elveto88 2 years ago
i think it all comes down to opinion in the end and if you don't like it, you don't like it.....end of really.
kly45 2 years ago
well most of the best and most rewarding music takes a little getting used to. If I just based my opinions of how comfortable i was during the first listen, I (or anyone) would be missing out. The best music takes experience working out your ears and mind. The first time i heard Derek I was Interested but it wasnt my priority. After I heard it in context with serial music and avant jazz it just clicked for me. I mean i wasnt even that into Bach when i first heard his work, imagine that.
edcerc 1 year ago
@benj637
more like a lousy player to me...
Inblut 2 years ago
Derek bailey was a "regular" jazz guitarist and accomplished session musician before starting with this kinda stuff, something you could have easily looked up on wikipedia before writing this comment dipshit.
RappoldXJay 2 years ago 2
Maybe he had a stroke or some other neurological disorder in his later years? Just a hypothesis....
franco6719 1 year ago
he had carpal tunnel syndrome and refused to treat it, but that was like a couple years before he died.
RappoldXJay 1 year ago
I think he is not thinking when makes his music.
NikolayDashkevitch 2 years ago
The passage at 2:20 was my fave !!!...
3580a 2 years ago
@3580a I can so relate
VSJonno 2 years ago
Oh fuck off!
Johnnymac1965 2 years ago
oNE OF THE BEST GUITARISTS EVER
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I would like to hear something that doesn't suck from this dude
CoryNoble 2 years ago
i would like to hear anything at all from you dipshit.
RappoldXJay 2 years ago
Good thing he tuned first...
3580a 2 years ago 3
HAHAHA
JackGtarHappyHOurSho 2 years ago
it sounds like someone made a tape of something DYING O_o lol
nah jk but hey any1 know where i can find a sample of Evan Parker's "Aerobatics 3"? I wanna hear it before i buy it :D
Zaetix 2 years ago
no , precisamente entiendo y se lo que toca porque yo soy guitarrista , es decir , que quiere decir con lo que toca ? que es lo que expresa ? vos que sentis cuando escuchas este tipo de cosas ?, yo siento como que me gopleo el codo y me da como electricidad , con todo respeto delcielo , saludos
zorroparoldi 2 years ago
este tipo de musica es simplemente horrible , el que me dice que le gusta no le creo , las extravagancias cualquiera las hace , lo dificil es ser simple como bach
zorroparoldi 2 years ago
zorroparoldi, a mi me gusta, y mucho. escucho los discos con atencion, y los disfruto como disfruto a beefheart, a los beatles, ayler, fugazi o malher. si te parece horrible es probablemente porque no la entiendes. asi de simple.
delcielo1985 2 years ago
simple como bach??? de hecho las unicas piezas simples son de musica de hogar y cosas asi, gran parte es complejisima contrapuntisticamente hablando y tambien en cuanto a ejecución.. mira el juego de pedales en las piezas de organo, que eso no es para nada de facil.
En cuanto al video, es un estilo distinto del que te gusta simplemente, al tener intencion de arte esta sujeto a juicios y este es uno mas, y si, a alguien le puede gustar; es un movimiento que tiene bases, no es algo que salga asi
BreathController 2 years ago
las variaciones gold. , el clave , son obras que no son complejas harmonicamente , a eso me refiero che controlador ...a que te referis con bases ? a ver si entendi : pegarle una patada a un perro puede ser arte entonces , si te gusta y tenes estomago ta todo bien , sera que soy muy sensible y "no entiendo" de musica viste . en fin ... saludos desde san luis
zorroparoldi 2 years ago
that moment of resolution at 2:58 - breathtaking.
mibifinalist 2 years ago 2
I love dissonant orchestral music, dissonant piano... but dissonant guitar just sounds kinda silly. I guess I just don't have much interest in going out of my way to hear it, as you can hear it anytime you walk into a guitar store
motorwawt 2 years ago
so there's nothing else about this music than dissonance? that's all? when you listen to modern piano playing, you do it because it has dissonance? same with orchestral music? wtf.
megast2 1 year ago
I'm just simply stating my opinion that i like the way dissonant harmonies sound when played by an instruments orchestra or by a piano because of their specific timbre qualities. I just don't find the way it sounds on guitar appealing, sorry. People are allowed to like things other than what you do, chill out man
motorwawt 1 year ago
Maybe he should have used a fretless guitar tuned randomly,.
FENDIN10 2 years ago
can he repeat that?
xotni 2 years ago
it's not a composition, it's an improvisation. so probably not.
bingobongo 2 years ago
it's improv. it's played not to be repeated.
Beetoe 2 years ago
A sophisticated improvisation is the kind that you can repeat, even if it originally didn't come from anything written. You should be able to hear it first in your head, otherwise the improvisation comes from the instrument, not you. Joe Pass certainly had something to say about this.
xotni 2 years ago
I still prefer to think that it shouldn't be repeated but it is after all my personal opinion.
Beetoe 2 years ago
perhaps bailey would be able to repeat it, who knows, who cares. that may be impressive but has little to do with the actual music. joe pass's opinion on what constitutes a 'sophisticated improvisation' is perhaps interesting to some people.
bingobongo 2 years ago 3
so intuitive improvisation is to you just bull? you're propably a pretty slow talker then.
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so intuitive improvisation is to you just bull? you're propably a pretty slow talker then.
megast2 1 year ago
derek was a god; just not a benevolent god.
bingobongo 2 years ago 3
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Wow. I almost want to say this is worse than Nickelback, but that would be stretching it. Still, they're both impossible to listen to without wanting to force a knitting needle through your tympanic membranes.
SAc0balt 2 years ago
you are dumb
aps13 2 years ago
wOW whAT a MASTER of his own SOUND WORLd!..i believe that this is heaping with exPRESSiveness, which translates to EMOTION- howEVER abstract it may seem....open yer ears, naysayers!!!....OTHER sound WORLds EXist!!!!....this is a brilliant solo performance by a MASTER to mine earz.
ADURG1 2 years ago
@ADURG1 you fucking idiot, can you honestly not see the joke is on you?? i have seen plenty of people play like this guy, just look up on youtube "best guitar solo ever" and you will see 1 guy do exactly this....do you really believe that a bunch of twats humouring an old man who clearly NEVER learned to play the instrument REALLY believe hes playing it?!?!?
TheLydianRocks 1 year ago
@TheLydianRocks Look up his bio. He started playing when he was 10 and can actually play guitar. He can play jazz, you retard. And you can't even play mainstream shit.
DisembodiedLoaf 1 year ago 2
@DisembodiedLoaf why cant i play jazz or mainstream shit? because i dont have a video camera?? hahaha great use of logic mate, and no, he sucks, sorry but this is art not music, wrong category
TheLydianRocks 1 year ago
wtf. who listens to this. sure its impressive that hes able to play that on purpose but still it gives off nooo emotion and isnt pleasing to the ear at allll wtffff
bigfoot156 2 years ago
My absolute favourite passage starts at 4:52 - 5:02. Funny thing is that it sounds like it builds up to those flurries he comes out with. You can hear the music has an internal logic to it, the more you listen to it over and over, the more you can hear it.
BraveUlysses01 2 years ago
I tell you one thing, I've listened to a lot of Derek Bailey records and CDs, but nothing prepared me for actually SEEING him create the music. I wish I'd seen him live... ‹sighs abound›
BraveUlysses01 2 years ago
Also, at 2:58 he (presumably by accident) plays the first three notes of "Stairway to Heaven."
peacefrog434 2 years ago 4
This guy's technique is amazing--to be able to hit the array of notes and timbres he hits with the consistency and purpose with which he hits them is something. That being said, this isn't the sort of thing you'd play at a party to get people dancing.
peacefrog434 2 years ago 5
I agree. He plays the guitar like it's just descended from the sky and has no baggage or history attached to it. Music lost a great guitar player when Mr Bailey passed on...
BraveUlysses01 2 years ago 2
This is rediculous
spoon12bil 2 years ago
1. Each of these things can be compared, despite differences, because they are systems; & in order to appreciate a system one must have some kind of an understanding of it. I don't empathise with football because it doesn't interest me but I wouldn't make the mistake of thinking my lack of interest regarding it was some kind of limitation it has. That's a limitation I have - because I am not interested; & so I have not taken time to deepen my understanding in such a way as to appreciate it.
murmurists 2 years ago
2. It's the same re. improv, Bailey etc. If you don't do the work or if it does not capture your imagination, it will go over your head. So many - too many - see that as alack in the art rather than in themselves.
murmurists 2 years ago 2
Why is it that, in appreciating art, it is fine and dandy to do so from a position of ignorance - saying 'I don't know much about art, but I know what I like'? That's rubbish, surely? One would not look at a game of football, for instance, and without understanding any of the rules of the game or the motivations of its players, say 'I knownothing about this, but I know I think it's rubbish'. More work is needed on behalf of the viewer.
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jackkemel 2 years ago
(next part of the previous comment) but you can as well make something else that's difficult to make following some useless rules then, that has to do with art, only with showing how smart you are
jackkemel 2 years ago
The ears feed into the brain; and avant-garde art is for that organ, not for tapping your foot to. It may just be that this music is beyond you because of a lack in you rather than the same in Bailey.
murmurists 2 years ago
actually most free improv, and certainly Derek's music, make me want to move. there is a natural flow to it, even if angular and unsymmetrical.
megast2 1 year ago
Derek Bailey was, without doubt, one of the most original guitarists, and amongst the most serious and dedicated contributors to that instrument, who ever lived. Whether you like what you hear - ie. whether it pleases your ear - or not is only part of how one might attempt to understand this music.
murmurists 2 years ago 4
I love youtube comments. They tend to be even funnier and more misinformed than, say, blogger or wordpress. Maybe it's because its a site dedicated to visual media; as opposed to words, reading and all that.
murmurists 2 years ago 3
great background music for a David Lynch film...
klocke 2 years ago
just because both seem to be weird for "normal" perception? come on man...
Skavb 2 years ago
right on, this wouldn't fit a lynch film at all.
mradamcooley 2 years ago
I LOVE THIS GUY
MysticDreamX 2 years ago 2
i like some of derek bailey's stuff but most of it is just the same shit over and over again (always with the damn harmonics...). and on all the videos ive seen he just looks bored rather than involved, as if it's just arsing around. which he probably was. when you look at free improvisers on other instruments (piano, horns) he seems very uninspired in comparison
khalithistle 2 years ago
In music there are no wrong or right notes. Nothing is played correctly because there is no right or wrong way to play anything. Music is anything you can play and make happen. It's all up in the air. No one can judge anything anyone plays because all they have to back themselves up is tradition.
odinwillbeatyoudown 2 years ago
did you ever hear about a thing called science,and a specific kind of science called physics,and in physics the researched sound, and they saw that with a sound many other sounds sounded togeter with it,and some specific intervals a lot harder than others, and that our brains capture who sound harder with the sound played before differently so you get a feeling of stability,...The complete explanation is a lot longer,but all I want to say is that there's more than tradition,tonality has a reasen
jackkemel 2 years ago
I agree that tonality has reason. I completely agree with that. But music is what I'm talking about, and it has no barriers. I agree with you, but I'm just trying to get my point across.
odinwillbeatyoudown 2 years ago
allright, allways nice to agree :), I thought you were one of these guys who think that just nothing has a reason and that you can just play anything, that you just need to get used to things that sound good. I think the best thing in music is that once you now what's possible en what's not in harmony you can search other ways, other things, and introduce them in a beautyfull way in harmony, and this has nog barriers indeed.
jackkemel 2 years ago
You have the right idea, man!
odinwillbeatyoudown 2 years ago
Great free improvisation.
GEspontanea 2 years ago 2
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Dude doesn't even know how to play. It's quite obvious.
Mel Bay volume 1 would help a lot !!!!
58flame 2 years ago
GRINGO LOCO
ivan811 2 years ago
He hits his notes great, but the sound that comes from doing that doesn't sound good in the ear.
killerskillet 2 years ago
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Jesus fucking christ this is horrible. Why the fuck is this even on Youtube?
I CANT BELIEVE HOW BAD THIS IS.
EmmVeePeePBN 2 years ago
darkrapsody makes a good point, The tuning system and compositional methods of most Western music only developed over the past 300 years, Earlier tuning would sound odd, even dissonant, to modern audiences, Nobody is forcing anyone to listen. By the way, Miles Davis did not invent Free Jazz, though--he was virulently opposed to the real inventors, like Ornette Coleman and Cecil Taylor, until he changed HIS mind. But life is too short to be offended or upset about music, Let us like what we like!
garygomesg 2 years ago 3
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Rap blows forever.
stopglobalswarming 2 years ago
This blows is an honest reaction, but not an objective critique. Many of those who say this isn't music have no idea (or inclinattion) to understand music beyond what they already know. So, go somewhere else, guys. I can't stand Lou Reed... but you won't find me crapping all over his YouTube posts. So, really, please don't waste everyone's time.
garygomesg 2 years ago 3
I think is the right time, to understand the music beyond the harmony. Is there a wolrd of sounds we could listen to, without any parameter, and we always had to do it... I mean... Do ya know all the world of expressions we loss by depreciating them?
darkrapsody 2 years ago
I'm so glad so many people it's doing stuff like this: Akira Yamaoka, Omar Rodriguez-Lopez, Animal Collective, CocoRosie, Shugo Tokumaru...
I agree too with carlmk85: The line beween madness and genious is so very fine. You have to see it, guys: Miles Davis, with the great technique habilities he has, was the creator of the Free Jazz, back to the basics... And, for example, Omar Rodriguez-Lopez, never studied music in form... He's just an amazing intuitive guitarrist and musicians...
darkrapsody 2 years ago
BTW, Did ya know the history about the changes in the tuning of A? Man... This shit 'bout music is relative! Never forget it... It's an amazing construction, but sometimes we have to break the rules.
darkrapsody 2 years ago 2
@garygomesg lou reed is not my cup of tea either but if you cant tell the difference between lou reed and this guy then you probably dont even know what an instrment is, if you do know anything at all about music :even if you only listen to pop which isnt knowing anything about music, shame on you lol you are old enough to know better, this is not avante garde bullshit, shit is just bullshit..
TheLydianRocks 1 year ago
@TheLydianRocks I have played keyboard since I was 13 (I'm 58 now); I played lots of different kinds of music, including blues, classical, mainstream and free jazz. I happen to like this guy. The first of his records I heard was a duet he put out on ECM records with the bassist Dave Holland (who played cello). Ever heard Anton Webern\, Messiaen, Stockhausen? (I've listened to ALL kinds of music, by the way.) This improv is based on that. I like it and really could care less about your opinion.
garygomesg 1 year ago 4
@garygomesg have you read/heard of the Lydian Chromatic Concept?
JacobAPeck 6 months ago
@JacobAPeck Yes I have. George Russell, right?
Gary
garygomesg 6 months ago
Terrible. Just terrible.
mikebee02 2 years ago
Yes it is terrible. It's sad to watch what sounds like a mentally ill old man.
Why is it thought that people like Bailey and Oxley choose to "advance" from harmony and consistent rhythm? Perhaps they did not choose to. Perhaps their "language" expresses the incoherence of a fragmented psyche; madness.
drwinkle101 2 years ago
Then of course, you could argue that there's a fine line between madness and genius.
I don't think this is that though...
carlmk85 2 years ago
yes
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carlmk85 2 years ago
I find it intriguing to listen to - it stretches my ideas around harmonics & metre - I also find actually watching his fingering educational. Like all avant guarde or improvisational, jazz, I savour the sounds without trying to find something else to relate it to. It is clear that Derek Bailey made a good living from playing extended techniques. I'm comforted by the fact that this shows there were enough people interested in listening to his different approaches without pre-judgement. Thanks.
Olcortaperania 2 years ago 3
i think it s an epiphone
djangoramsey 2 years ago
Beautiful how harmonics mix with plucked notes on wrong side of bridge
bitachar 2 years ago
there's just too much wrong with this ever to put right, I'm sorry.....
InveterateCrier 2 years ago
Really? Are you a music theorist? Then perhaps you can point out what's "wrong" with this playing. If not, if you're simply a music listener who is turned off by disharmony or arhythmia, then you do not understand what is "wrong" or "right" about his playing.
CodyRicheson 2 years ago 2
not understanding is correct, cud some1 explain the genius in this?
pitchstrings 2 years ago
everyone makes fun of it but they dont understand.
Jack458111 2 years ago 2
but no one that "understands" it can explain it.....
ALoveEternal 2 years ago 3