This reminds me of Wierd Al Yankovic's song Everything You Know Is Wrong. If God doesn't exist, then who made all these goofy people and animals? Natural Selection, really, I think not! Now give me some money so you can get to heaven, lol!
of corse everything we know about some "MAN" in the sky is wrong just as everything atheists believe is impossible is wrong as well. I think this whole "god debate" stems from a total lack of and fear of the psychedelic / mystical experiences brought on by the use of Salvia Divinorum, Mushrooms & DMT.
They are disseminating relatively recent theosophical concepts about god. Tons of people practice "magic" take psychedelics and then claim to be abducted by multi-dimensional beings that tell them that god is love and that there will soon be a revelation.
Meanwhile the christians get few a lot of patriotic revival nonsense, and the atheists get indoctrinated with fundamentalist materialism.
Everybody gets deluded and credulous. Who benefits?
None of these concepts are recent, Epiricus disproved the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent god in 33 ad. And the concepts are philosophical, not theosophical. These are not concepts which are restrained to the bounds of a single dogma; rather, they go beyond that and attempt to assess these relgious claims with reason and logic.
Don't equate the skeptical standpoint with that of the religious, it's moronic. The former is well reasoned, the latter is dogmatic
I'm specifically talking about the concept of "illumination" and ideas about christianity originally being paganistic (gnostic) in nature, and christ being a symbolic figure comparable to horus etc. I was not questioning whether god exists or not, the answer is not known at present so that's not a useful to me.
Real skepticism, indeed, is well reasoned, but recognizes that reason is subjective. That is nihilism, not atheism.
atheists, very often, are just as fooled as christians.
Nihilism and atheism are not necessarily exclusive. In fact, besides one rather unconvincing blog (calvindude . com/index. php?id=55), I couldn't find any examples of theistic nihilism.
Atheism literally means lack of a belief in god/s. It doesn't mean you believe that there isn't one. It's a response to the claim that such a being exists; "There isn't enough evidence for it, I cannot believe this as fact until this changes". There is nothing foolish about this position.
I agree, atheism itself should simply be about disbelief, not denialism.
I didn't say that atheism itself was foolish, but I do see a lot of foolishness amongst atheists. If you want to believe that atheism is more justified than religion, that for instance, is foolish.
Clearly you misunderstood the entirity of my last response, so allow me to paraphrase (dumb it down). Atheism is, by default, a more justified mental position that required by any mono or poly theistic religion.
This is because atheism does not ask anything of the individual; it requires no assumptions, no "faith", no dogma and no tenants. The extent of atheism is that you do not see enough evidence, proof or logic to believe any religious claim that any particular deity exists.
Let me clarify, (dumb this down) for you, clearly you didn't understand my brilliant response.
When I say that atheism is no more justified than theism, I mean rationally. They both rely on core assumptions which are unproven and unprovable.
So naturally you think atheism is more justified than theism, that position matches your core assumptions. But, ultimately, you're being fooled by those assumptions. It's a self deception, and a smart atheist recognizes it. Ha ha.
The validity of your "brilliant response" relies on a misunderstanding of what atheism actually is, which is why my past two replies have been (apparently futile) attempts to explain it.
A belief and the lack of a belief are not equally valid positions. A person who claims that bigfoot is real has the responsibility and burden of proof. If one was unable to accept that claim to be fact, at least until presented with more evidence, then they would be taking the more rational position
I have listened. I have listened and pointed out the inaccuracies in your arguments. This is not a crusade (you tend to find more of those on the theistic side of things anyway), nor am I attempting to come off as morally superior. I am simply disagreeing with you.
You wrote this: "When I say that atheism is no more justified than theism, I mean rationally. They both rely on core assumptions which are unproven and unprovable."
This is incorrect, and, relies on a strawman of atheism
What core assumptions do you think I am making? I am assuming that my subjective, observable reality exists. Within this reality people hear and make different claims about the nature of the universe. Some are based on observation, and testing, others are based on superstition and myth. I, as a rational human being, see that scientific observations are a more reliable method of understanding the universe than myth. For this reason, I reject the unfounded claim that a creator exists.
So, it sounds like you believe that your empirical experience relates to an objective reality. Further you believe that science is the best description of that objective reality. This is your assumption, how do you prove it?
I don't believe that my empirical experience directly relates to an objective reality, but I believe that through finding correllations in the observations of other subjective bodies, I can gain a greater understanding of the reality I observe.
Within this reality (upon the admitted assumption that it exists), the scientific method has proven itself to be the most efficient method of both discovery and usefulness. It has improved our healthcare, shelter and means of comfort.
I do not see enough evidence to believe any individual religious claim about an all powerful creator to be factual. In the same way that I do not see enough evidence to believe leprechauns exist.
Let me be clear, I cannot disprove the existence of any god, any more than I can disprove the existence of leprechauns. I simply do not see enough reason to beleive that they exist, and until this changes, I will continue not to believe.
So for you it's a lack of credible evidence, which I imagine, goes back to the science thing. So what do we call this? Materialism? Natural philosophy?
Regardless, it's just logic, and the logic itself is just intangible stuff. It's just, thought. The logic that a religious person uses to convince themselves of the presence of god, is no more tangible, no more objective, than the logic used by atheists to reason out the existence of god.
The truth is God is real. He's not about religion, traditions, rituals and ceremonies. He is about love. He is love. The love He has for us is more than what we could ever comprehend, and it is his only motivation. He just wants a relationship with you. He doesn't want to restrict or harm you, He just wants you to know His love He has for you and how important you are to Him. It's not about religion, it's about finding the one who created you and would move heaven and earth to be with you. LOVE
@MsBmarsh So your telling me that whoever made me, brought me to the brink of death. Took my father away from me, makes me live this hell every day. Constantly hurts me in the smallest ways, dose things that kill me ever day, but not just me, literary kills thousands, if not millions of people. Ever day, because he loves me. Because he is love. Not just my suffering, but BILLIONS of peoples suffering, is all because he loves us. BULLSHIT!! Fucked up people, with a fucked up god, all religion is.
don't mislead others..God do exist..if he does not,then think about the very reason why you still breathe even though you do nothing but sleep and surf the net.
@lebickmeck I am a theist, but I would be greatly disappointed if God actually turned out to give a damn about what we believe. Any just god (or any thinking being for that matter) should judge others for their actions (or, better, TRUE intentions). If there is forgiveness, it comes from a true intent to change, not from a half-assed "forgive me".
@wonttell125 Well that is a double sided coin isnt it? What you religious nutters and wrong and there is no god? What a complete farce your life will have been ey?
AW- SCHUCKS.....You guys really repel me.....O.K.theres alot of problems with current theology.........LETS HEAR YOUR SOLUTION. MOTHA FLUCARE.....No soltion???.... fine, guess yer an atheist, I 'd rather a glimmer of hope than your peessimistic rant.....me and Jesus used to hang out at the fillmore!!
@vesperus1981 No, religion involves many more simply things in everyday life, from 1000-2000+ years ago. Like herding sheep. Today it is mostly about herding sheeple, and money (that's hording money).
@vesperus1981 Wrongo......if your a christian!!!!....assume..you need to tithe, which means you put in 10 percent into the pot! Easy stakes at vegas or a.c....Everones's the winner......the return is ten- fold...every time..(except for the branch davidians, or jimmy swaggart....we're not all perfect!!...cut me a break you sinnner
People, please make difference between the belief in god and spirituality and religion. I am against riligion but i am for Spirituality. So imo both religion and Atheism are wrong. The trick is to think for yourself and to form your own "religion". You can be spiritual without having any religious affiliation.
Agreed, I think everyone should form their own way of thinking when it comes to spirituality and God, as opposed to blindly subscribing to something just because, so many others believe in it.
basically the sprit of creation is like a feeling of harmoney that makes the universe grow and stay balanced. the way that in the spirit of crhristmas there is harmoney and brotherly love and peace and goodwill. but bible god does not exsit no ofence to the evangelicals but even a preist can agree on my points i just made and say theres no invisible man in the clouds. if so how would one god answer the prayors of billions of civlizations and each of there billions of people.
@TheNecropolis20 Your claiming that is the spirit of creation. You can't claim that for any religion, and someday, science will explain that with magnetic dipoles. For now I would say, don't be so sure you (a human being) knows what forces are responsible for creating things, nor that they are the same all over the universe.
@TheNecropolis20 Also christmas, is basically an adapted pagan fertility ceremony misplaced to winter solstice. They swapped easter and christmas for some reason. Maybe the early Christians wanted to confuse people for many generations. I could say the spirit of Atheism, is the warm, honest tone you hear when talk to a good friend. Or the force that compels you to say, "hey, now that is certainly bullcrap " when you hear or see certain bullcrap (in the expressive non literal sense).
yeah human knowledge of god is difinatly wrong. even my mother parents who are in there 80's now tell me that This bible is not Authentic. i agree with them they said most unauthentic part is Adam and eve. even if there was a adam and eve thered have to be other eqivelent pairs in all the nations of the earth to have created such ethnic diversity.. we agree that there is not a bible god. but that theres a spirit of creation. like spirit of christmas.but things dont materialize out of thin air
@rmcdaniel423 you dont beleive so you will never know. so theres no point in trying to tell you.. i told a story in my life that happend to me. i was a nonbeleiver but now i know. you dont have to agree with me i dont care what you think.
there's a creator for everything.... if there was such a thing as a big bang and life and all the perfect things on earth for us to survive on.. then i would have three houses and ten hot wives each ontop of my new hummers.. i dont beleive in what the bible has to tell me because its a lie.. its just a manmade story that someone made to controle someone, but i do beleive in god. you can beleive in him or not... its your life not mine i dont care. im no longer wasting my time with this. hes real.
1. is you have to beleive..... if not you will never know.... people dont know but they act like god is there and they love him so they wont go the hell.... i wasn't sure about god even though my family told me hes was real, untill one day i heard a voice shout my name.. i was scared but then a worm and good feeling came to me. shortly after i was speaking to him hoping that he will talk to me, and every night before i went to bed i heard his voice..... you have to realy beleive.
@1308ism your right.. but god is real.. i dont have a religion... but i do know hes there..... hell is one way they use religion to scare people... dont hate or disbeleive in god.. just because god doesnt talk to you to give advise doesnt meen he aint there... you need to open your eyes, he shows you signs and gives hints in your life to get you through your problems.. be what you want to be...... hes all thats good in life.... by the way i dont believe in hell...so i dont know what the bad is
@1RUSSIANBOY wrote ". . . god is real . . . I do know he's there.. ."
How? HOW do you KNOW he's there? This is the question that has plagued mankind for centuries, and YOU have the answer? The CORRECT answer? And you "KNOW" it for sure? HOW? WHY? Please . . . explain. Enlighten us. The world would like to understand.
This dudes voice on the video sounds like he work for Don Lapre's "Infomercials" like the famous "I can show you how to place a TINY CLASSIFIED AD and make MILLIONS" - Man Athiests are loosers.
pot smokin childer? idiotic video if u go by science herb is actually very damn good .. an god is real i feel sorry the ones that dont know h.i.m. peace godbless rastafari !
Everything they know about god is wrong also so in effect they are not lying.. The religious flavor of each century is all bastardized religion (IE Business).. If you don't believe in god then you must believe in the devil. (Maybe not as a "being") But the inherent evil of Mans deceptive motives (Be it false religion with odd practices, money making schemes to control people, The NWO or just plain greed)
If those people are not conformed with our religion, why dont they just keep it to themselves and dont mess up with our lives? if they "hate" God so much, why dont they just leave him alone! No man can know EVERYTHING about God, but what we NEED to know is that he loves us more than anything else, therefore we must love him back. I love him back. And I dont believe a word these people say, but many other do believe them, so if we dont mess up if THEIR lives, why should they mess up with ours ?
@aleewehber1209 It's asked of you to have faith, in what do you have faith in? Support the churches beliefs? Support the God's understanding? Support others in gratitude for equality?
All of these need knowledge to understand their faiths. So down to the basics it is understanding yourself and your world which creates most prosperity. For arrogance leads to misery.
i guess every one can choose wats right n wrong but this book is just SUCKY!!! this will cause religious fights and other bad things..THIS IS SUCKY PLS PPL DONT LISTEN TO THIS CRAP>>ISLAM IS GREAT..
@hhh285, koolaid is great too. everyone choosing wats right n wrong is all well and fine when they stick to keeping outrageous claims and myths out of government institutions especially education. The recent decision by the Texas School Board to rewrite history books to suit their conservative, right-wing and clearly religious propaganda.
This is complete crap forgive me if u do not like this but as a jehovas witness I think that you do not Deserve to live on the everlasting earth that's just retarded now why would u even think to write that? Even if u hate religion u can't write a book saying u know nothing about jehovah !!! Get a life ! And I am saying thus to whoever wrote the book and whoever posted this vid because it is your fault that probobly 500 more people know about this than it would have without this post !!!!
Anyone who believes in any religion is simply a stupid and uneducated or uninformed person. Thats just a simple fact. If you can see what religions really are...then waste your life on stupidy, you deserve no better.
@pantastic16 well m8 i got hit by lightening and i was clinicly dead for 4 hours and i can tell you i didnt see a god,,, and before it i was actually on my way to turning christian
I wonder if Hinduism is the most complex religion, there are literally over a thousand sub religious groups that make it up I read but I know that say for every church you could call that a religious group too or maybe not. Anybody know if I'm right?
Any of you christian shit heads even read this book? Of course not! This is how christians operate, in complete ignorance. Well, I have read this book in addition to your bible, torah, koran, and dozens of other gnostic, christian, buddhist, and hindu texts.
As one who is in league with satan I highly recommend this book. For those of you who hate free speech and love to bugger babies I recommend the "Holy Bible".
Man atheists piss me off. They tell you how religion is evil, and how it forces you to think a certain way, and then all these atheists try and force their views down your thought, and think that they are all knowing. I don't believe in organized religion myself, I think man corrupted it a long time ago, but I do believe in a creator.
not all atheist are like that. I mean what would really piss you off someone who told you that god doesn't like homosexuals when he created them or there is no god because god will gradually accept everyone pure of heart.
Ever question the movies brought to you by "Disinformation" and note the symbol of a horned creature. This can be a conspiracy theory in its own. Satan uses illusion and deception as a method for us to turn our back on god. Just the symbolism I have seen with their logo and messages spell out the message of Satanism. Get your facts straight and know both sides before you unconditionally believe this dangerous propoganda.
If you truly seek him, you will find him, but if you look blindly you will stumble in the darkness of your denial of Him. No flesh can provide you evidence. Only God through that person can reveal such an existence. I will no longer battle this arguement. you are going to believe what you will, What happens next is between you and God.
Another book that is going to take some people straight to Hell... However I do not think many would buy it lol. How can one say that there is no God? Put Religon and Dogma aside. What other shade of green or blue do u need to see? One cell in our body is more complex than New York City! Seriously! What is wrong with God? He teaches us to love on another... forgivness ect. There is EVIL that exists in this world and many men do not fear God and can pay off the man but Jesus is a just Judge& God
The thing is, religion is dangerous; and i quote Bill Maher, " Religion allows humans who dont have all the answers to think that they do, and since there are no gods actually talking to us, that void is filled by humans with their own corruptions"
Religion is not dangerous, religions are merely intellectual constructs generated out of evolutionary traits that suited fitness. I consider Jung correct in asserting that religion and God are inherent to human psychology, though they are, of course, not real.
What is "dangerous" is people who choose to use violence, and that has more to do with their parents child-rearing practices than with their ideology.
i know humans need to fell as though their is something bigger out there that controls our lives, but its crazy; and religion is dangerous because we fight wars for Gods that dont even exist
the point is that religion IS DANGEROUS; think about it; the bible talks of the end of days and that blood must be shed for jesus to return; WE DO NOT have to be sucked in into this self-fulfilling prophecy were we have to kill each other, when we could just simply disobey and act like reasonable, and knowledgable human beings
i did read your comments, and i agree with you that god does not exist, but religion in itself is filled with violence without adding child-rearing practices
What does that have to do with what I was saying? You just want to hate on believers, which is petty and asinine.
Beyond that your statement isn't even accurate! Human beings only perceive a tiny fraction of the totality of existence, so really we are ALL ignorant, not just the theists.
Why the hell do people take the right to laugh on others who do believe in, for example, aliens?
Let me explain:
They are argumenting that there is not any evidence or a indication for those and that it is nonsense to believe in flying saucers and everything that comes along with them.
But a unknown !!!ALSO NEVERSEEN!!! old man with a white beard who calls himself arrogantly and self-righteous GOD, who created earth with "MAGICAL POWERS" from an unknown source within six days and made a man out of clay and a woman out of one of mans ribs and at least decided to leave absolutley no evidence for his very own existence....yeah....
"Are you waiting for a holy man from the worlds religions to tell you the thruth?!" WRITE YOUR OWN!!!!!! hahaha. Though it would be nice that one day the thruth will come form a Atheist or just someone who really just knows things. And for as far as U.S. religious peeps, keep in mind; "There's always a Boss above the Boss...
okay i really dont like this.. people have the freedom to believe in whatever they want and i hate it when someone deciedes to shove their noses up some other religions ass and try to prove them wrong
i mean, im not religious or anything. im atheist. hell, im actually agnostic and i really think people should mind their own damn business. stop trampling on the beliefs of others.
But theist have been trampling the beliefs of not only Agnostics and Atheist, they have been killing each other for thousands of years over who is more right then the other and who's book is more holy...
It's time for freethinkers and rationalist to step up and demand a stop to this insanity. How long before some fundamentalist nut job sets off a nuke in a city in the name of his religion?
Religion is used by governments to keep the masses in fear and under control and stop the idiots to think for themselves. Who doesnt know this!! Couple more generations and we might be free of this mind control
jesus loves you guys
3s3Cartoon 1 month ago
This reminds me of Wierd Al Yankovic's song Everything You Know Is Wrong. If God doesn't exist, then who made all these goofy people and animals? Natural Selection, really, I think not! Now give me some money so you can get to heaven, lol!
mcradloff 1 month ago
This sounds like a commercial that would air at 4 a.m. on public service television.
Mahhhty1 1 month ago
@Mahhhty1 well duhh! this youtube video is clearly designed to exactly parody that style.
thorkelson 1 month ago
@thorkelson Either way, it was a waste of time.
Mahhhty1 1 month ago
of corse everything we know about some "MAN" in the sky is wrong just as everything atheists believe is impossible is wrong as well. I think this whole "god debate" stems from a total lack of and fear of the psychedelic / mystical experiences brought on by the use of Salvia Divinorum, Mushrooms & DMT.
kaiagavin 2 months ago
Wait a min. everything I know about God is wrong? Noooooooooo!!!! WHy?!?!!!!
WickedMo13 3 months ago
Nah, I'm pretty sure he still doesn't exist.
HypaSonicDeathMonkey 3 months ago
wtf???
killmonk11 4 months ago
bravo!!!!!!!
dahlusion 4 months ago
They are disseminating relatively recent theosophical concepts about god. Tons of people practice "magic" take psychedelics and then claim to be abducted by multi-dimensional beings that tell them that god is love and that there will soon be a revelation.
Meanwhile the christians get few a lot of patriotic revival nonsense, and the atheists get indoctrinated with fundamentalist materialism.
Everybody gets deluded and credulous. Who benefits?
Jcolinsol 6 months ago
@Jcolinsol
None of these concepts are recent, Epiricus disproved the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent god in 33 ad. And the concepts are philosophical, not theosophical. These are not concepts which are restrained to the bounds of a single dogma; rather, they go beyond that and attempt to assess these relgious claims with reason and logic.
Don't equate the skeptical standpoint with that of the religious, it's moronic. The former is well reasoned, the latter is dogmatic
leftovers0 5 months ago
@leftovers0
I'm specifically talking about the concept of "illumination" and ideas about christianity originally being paganistic (gnostic) in nature, and christ being a symbolic figure comparable to horus etc. I was not questioning whether god exists or not, the answer is not known at present so that's not a useful to me.
Real skepticism, indeed, is well reasoned, but recognizes that reason is subjective. That is nihilism, not atheism.
atheists, very often, are just as fooled as christians.
Jcolinsol 5 months ago
@Jcolinsol
Nihilism and atheism are not necessarily exclusive. In fact, besides one rather unconvincing blog (calvindude . com/index. php?id=55), I couldn't find any examples of theistic nihilism.
Atheism literally means lack of a belief in god/s. It doesn't mean you believe that there isn't one. It's a response to the claim that such a being exists; "There isn't enough evidence for it, I cannot believe this as fact until this changes". There is nothing foolish about this position.
leftovers0 5 months ago
@leftovers0
I agree, atheism itself should simply be about disbelief, not denialism.
I didn't say that atheism itself was foolish, but I do see a lot of foolishness amongst atheists. If you want to believe that atheism is more justified than religion, that for instance, is foolish.
Jcolinsol 5 months ago
@Jcolinsol
Clearly you misunderstood the entirity of my last response, so allow me to paraphrase (dumb it down). Atheism is, by default, a more justified mental position that required by any mono or poly theistic religion.
This is because atheism does not ask anything of the individual; it requires no assumptions, no "faith", no dogma and no tenants. The extent of atheism is that you do not see enough evidence, proof or logic to believe any religious claim that any particular deity exists.
leftovers0 5 months ago
@leftovers0
Ha ha, well then, you are only proving yourself the fool.
Jcolinsol 5 months ago
@leftovers0
Let me clarify, (dumb this down) for you, clearly you didn't understand my brilliant response.
When I say that atheism is no more justified than theism, I mean rationally. They both rely on core assumptions which are unproven and unprovable.
So naturally you think atheism is more justified than theism, that position matches your core assumptions. But, ultimately, you're being fooled by those assumptions. It's a self deception, and a smart atheist recognizes it. Ha ha.
Jcolinsol 5 months ago
@Jcolinsol
The validity of your "brilliant response" relies on a misunderstanding of what atheism actually is, which is why my past two replies have been (apparently futile) attempts to explain it.
A belief and the lack of a belief are not equally valid positions. A person who claims that bigfoot is real has the responsibility and burden of proof. If one was unable to accept that claim to be fact, at least until presented with more evidence, then they would be taking the more rational position
leftovers0 5 months ago
@leftovers0
Argh, you have no grasp of what this conversation is about. Even from the beginning you were off on a tangent.
Put down your freaking crusade and fucking listen for once, you uptight, sanctimonious prick.
Jcolinsol 5 months ago
@Jcolinsol
I have listened. I have listened and pointed out the inaccuracies in your arguments. This is not a crusade (you tend to find more of those on the theistic side of things anyway), nor am I attempting to come off as morally superior. I am simply disagreeing with you.
You wrote this: "When I say that atheism is no more justified than theism, I mean rationally. They both rely on core assumptions which are unproven and unprovable."
This is incorrect, and, relies on a strawman of atheism
leftovers0 5 months ago
@leftovers0
Thanks,
Incorrect, how so? How are you interpreting my statement? What is it that you think that I'm saying there? How do you prove your core assumptions?
I think that we're on the same page, I agreed with your definition of atheism. Where's the strawman?
Jcolinsol 5 months ago
@Jcolinsol
What core assumptions do you think I am making? I am assuming that my subjective, observable reality exists. Within this reality people hear and make different claims about the nature of the universe. Some are based on observation, and testing, others are based on superstition and myth. I, as a rational human being, see that scientific observations are a more reliable method of understanding the universe than myth. For this reason, I reject the unfounded claim that a creator exists.
leftovers0 5 months ago
@leftovers0
So, it sounds like you believe that your empirical experience relates to an objective reality. Further you believe that science is the best description of that objective reality. This is your assumption, how do you prove it?
Jcolinsol 5 months ago
@Jcolinsol
I don't believe that my empirical experience directly relates to an objective reality, but I believe that through finding correllations in the observations of other subjective bodies, I can gain a greater understanding of the reality I observe.
Within this reality (upon the admitted assumption that it exists), the scientific method has proven itself to be the most efficient method of both discovery and usefulness. It has improved our healthcare, shelter and means of comfort.
leftovers0 5 months ago
@leftovers0
Okay, but now we're talking about science, not atheism.
So lets backtrack a bit to stay on topic. What would you say your core assumptions are for atheism?
Jcolinsol 5 months ago
@Jcolinsol
I really don't understand the question. What assumptions do you think atheists make?
leftovers0 5 months ago
@leftovers0
I think it would depend on the line of logic that the atheist uses to arrive at her conclusion.
Jcolinsol 5 months ago
@Jcolinsol
I do not see enough evidence to believe any individual religious claim about an all powerful creator to be factual. In the same way that I do not see enough evidence to believe leprechauns exist.
Let me be clear, I cannot disprove the existence of any god, any more than I can disprove the existence of leprechauns. I simply do not see enough reason to beleive that they exist, and until this changes, I will continue not to believe.
leftovers0 5 months ago
@leftovers0
So for you it's a lack of credible evidence, which I imagine, goes back to the science thing. So what do we call this? Materialism? Natural philosophy?
Regardless, it's just logic, and the logic itself is just intangible stuff. It's just, thought. The logic that a religious person uses to convince themselves of the presence of god, is no more tangible, no more objective, than the logic used by atheists to reason out the existence of god.
Jcolinsol 5 months ago
Why can't anybody say Islam right? It is not difficult!
HarunDanyal 8 months ago
The truth is God is real. He's not about religion, traditions, rituals and ceremonies. He is about love. He is love. The love He has for us is more than what we could ever comprehend, and it is his only motivation. He just wants a relationship with you. He doesn't want to restrict or harm you, He just wants you to know His love He has for you and how important you are to Him. It's not about religion, it's about finding the one who created you and would move heaven and earth to be with you. LOVE
MsBmarsh 9 months ago
@MsBmarsh God is just an imaginary friend for grown-ups.
salvador0919 7 months ago
@MsBmarsh So your telling me that whoever made me, brought me to the brink of death. Took my father away from me, makes me live this hell every day. Constantly hurts me in the smallest ways, dose things that kill me ever day, but not just me, literary kills thousands, if not millions of people. Ever day, because he loves me. Because he is love. Not just my suffering, but BILLIONS of peoples suffering, is all because he loves us. BULLSHIT!! Fucked up people, with a fucked up god, all religion is.
WishFredWasDead 7 months ago
And... how do you know that?
You cant apply your own feelings universally.
fiscornioman 6 months ago
@MsBmarsh Love is an emotion brought on by electrical signals, and chemical reactions. umad
Zekezan88 4 months ago
@MsBmarsh You are a damn fool. Brainwashed and void of any common sense.
legitimatemind 3 months ago
pot smoking children? made me laugh.
GuineaForce 9 months ago
don't mislead others..God do exist..if he does not,then think about the very reason why you still breathe even though you do nothing but sleep and surf the net.
twinkle1711 9 months ago
@twinkle1711 be quite and go to sleep x
[yes that kiss is directed at YOU!!!!!!!]
MrNoknownidentity 7 months ago
GOD Almighty exists - wether you like it or not!
caNiBe3 11 months ago
@caNiBe3 ur funny
0Banjo0 11 months ago
@0Banjo0 wrong - i have no sence of humor at all
caNiBe3 11 months ago
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@caNiBe3 Thats just your opinion,You carnt prove god exists.
MultiGazman 10 months ago 3
Pot Smoking what !!! won't somebody please think of the children
ukadam2023 11 months ago
Lots of hype and very self-serving, with no clue as to its argument.
dfpolis 11 months ago
WRONG!!! Self righteousness?
superlolothunder1 1 year ago
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EH GAGO KA PALA EH
superlolothunder1 1 year ago
YOU ATHIESTS PREFER TO DENY GOD BECAUSE YOU CANNOT LIVE RIGHTEOUSLY
superlolothunder1 1 year ago
@superlolothunder1
Lol
Medication102 1 year ago
@superlolothunder1
I prefer to deny god because I think he doesn't exist. And YOU can't convince me with capslock on.
Assuming you are Catholic, most people use it as an excuse to do wrong things and then go to church and confess, because god likes to forgive.
I think this is an hypocrytical point of view.
I prefer to live by what I think is a good life rather then by a book
I don't care if you're cristian, jew, muslim, hindoe or atheist. You should to.
lebickmeck 1 year ago
@lebickmeck I am a theist, but I would be greatly disappointed if God actually turned out to give a damn about what we believe. Any just god (or any thinking being for that matter) should judge others for their actions (or, better, TRUE intentions). If there is forgiveness, it comes from a true intent to change, not from a half-assed "forgive me".
NightmareGanon 10 months ago
@superlolothunder1 I can live righteously and deny god at the same time.
Niuhll 1 year ago
@superlolothunder1 for those who believe that god doesnt exist..i hope you are right...but what if you are wrong...then what??
wonttell125 11 months ago
@wonttell125 Well that is a double sided coin isnt it? What you religious nutters and wrong and there is no god? What a complete farce your life will have been ey?
MultiGazman 10 months ago
Fuck you all atheists, go and get an excuse to do whatever.
ApolloIVtv1 1 year ago
Respond to this video...
Medication102 1 year ago
Neil Gayman??
So homosexuality is alright with atheists? right or wrong?
funkhead999 1 year ago
Look up "Scientific Proof Of God" and click on the DNA picture. Fair warning it's about an hour long, but so worth it!
TheLadyFirecracker 1 year ago
@TheLadyFirecracker is it a comedy?
OmfgItsHenu 1 year ago
AW- SCHUCKS.....You guys really repel me.....O.K.theres alot of problems with current theology.........LETS HEAR YOUR SOLUTION. MOTHA FLUCARE.....No soltion???.... fine, guess yer an atheist, I 'd rather a glimmer of hope than your peessimistic rant.....me and Jesus used to hang out at the fillmore!!
ioriorioriorio 1 year ago
@ioriorioriorio solution? what was the problem?
Samura1gamer 1 year ago
no he is real explain how you got here somebody made you god!
kingsms5977 1 year ago
@kingsms5977 or we evolved from cells
obelisklarvan 1 year ago
was that the voice of Dick Clark? "#3 on our charts God is an asshole, if he were real."
fargon187gmailcom 1 year ago
Wow these people discust me....
BlAZ3d24 1 year ago
screw you....
Zombiestewstudios 1 year ago
oh ya, religion is all about money. Only if you're an ass.
vesperus1981 1 year ago
@vesperus1981 No, religion involves many more simply things in everyday life, from 1000-2000+ years ago. Like herding sheep. Today it is mostly about herding sheeple, and money (that's hording money).
marsproject23 1 year ago
@vesperus1981 Wrongo......if your a christian!!!!....assume..you need to tithe, which means you put in 10 percent into the pot! Easy stakes at vegas or a.c....Everones's the winner......the return is ten- fold...every time..(except for the branch davidians, or jimmy swaggart....we're not all perfect!!...cut me a break you sinnner
ioriorioriorio 1 year ago
People, please make difference between the belief in god and spirituality and religion. I am against riligion but i am for Spirituality. So imo both religion and Atheism are wrong. The trick is to think for yourself and to form your own "religion". You can be spiritual without having any religious affiliation.
blackdeath9912 1 year ago
@blackdeath9912
Agreed, I think everyone should form their own way of thinking when it comes to spirituality and God, as opposed to blindly subscribing to something just because, so many others believe in it.
illusionfreak 1 year ago
LOL i love shit like this where some guy thinks because his rote a book he can make some far out totally unsupported claim.
TheNitschke22 1 year ago
religion is wrong, theism is wrong, atheism is wrong too though. Both camps are full of self righteous idiots with closed minds.
aether222 1 year ago
basically the sprit of creation is like a feeling of harmoney that makes the universe grow and stay balanced. the way that in the spirit of crhristmas there is harmoney and brotherly love and peace and goodwill. but bible god does not exsit no ofence to the evangelicals but even a preist can agree on my points i just made and say theres no invisible man in the clouds. if so how would one god answer the prayors of billions of civlizations and each of there billions of people.
TheNecropolis20 1 year ago
@TheNecropolis20 Your claiming that is the spirit of creation. You can't claim that for any religion, and someday, science will explain that with magnetic dipoles. For now I would say, don't be so sure you (a human being) knows what forces are responsible for creating things, nor that they are the same all over the universe.
marsproject23 1 year ago
@TheNecropolis20 Also christmas, is basically an adapted pagan fertility ceremony misplaced to winter solstice. They swapped easter and christmas for some reason. Maybe the early Christians wanted to confuse people for many generations. I could say the spirit of Atheism, is the warm, honest tone you hear when talk to a good friend. Or the force that compels you to say, "hey, now that is certainly bullcrap " when you hear or see certain bullcrap (in the expressive non literal sense).
marsproject23 1 year ago
no the sprit of Creation does not make things materialize out of thin air.
TheNecropolis20 1 year ago
yeah human knowledge of god is difinatly wrong. even my mother parents who are in there 80's now tell me that This bible is not Authentic. i agree with them they said most unauthentic part is Adam and eve. even if there was a adam and eve thered have to be other eqivelent pairs in all the nations of the earth to have created such ethnic diversity.. we agree that there is not a bible god. but that theres a spirit of creation. like spirit of christmas.but things dont materialize out of thin air
TheNecropolis20 1 year ago
@TheNecropolis20: So this "spirit of creation" can materialize out of thin air, but the universe can't?
DeadlyDelusions 1 year ago
lol an atheist compliation book. Awesome!
Motownisyourtown 1 year ago
satan leave our people alone
crookedrain771 1 year ago
To Russian Boy: You are made up of God. You are God. Who you here speaking to you is you.
ad1stworld 1 year ago
@rmcdaniel423 you dont beleive so you will never know. so theres no point in trying to tell you.. i told a story in my life that happend to me. i was a nonbeleiver but now i know. you dont have to agree with me i dont care what you think.
1RUSSIANBOY 1 year ago
there's a creator for everything.... if there was such a thing as a big bang and life and all the perfect things on earth for us to survive on.. then i would have three houses and ten hot wives each ontop of my new hummers.. i dont beleive in what the bible has to tell me because its a lie.. its just a manmade story that someone made to controle someone, but i do beleive in god. you can beleive in him or not... its your life not mine i dont care. im no longer wasting my time with this. hes real.
1RUSSIANBOY 1 year ago
1. is you have to beleive..... if not you will never know.... people dont know but they act like god is there and they love him so they wont go the hell.... i wasn't sure about god even though my family told me hes was real, untill one day i heard a voice shout my name.. i was scared but then a worm and good feeling came to me. shortly after i was speaking to him hoping that he will talk to me, and every night before i went to bed i heard his voice..... you have to realy beleive.
1RUSSIANBOY 1 year ago
@1308ism your right.. but god is real.. i dont have a religion... but i do know hes there..... hell is one way they use religion to scare people... dont hate or disbeleive in god.. just because god doesnt talk to you to give advise doesnt meen he aint there... you need to open your eyes, he shows you signs and gives hints in your life to get you through your problems.. be what you want to be...... hes all thats good in life.... by the way i dont believe in hell...so i dont know what the bad is
1RUSSIANBOY 1 year ago
@1RUSSIANBOY wrote ". . . god is real . . . I do know he's there.. ."
How? HOW do you KNOW he's there? This is the question that has plagued mankind for centuries, and YOU have the answer? The CORRECT answer? And you "KNOW" it for sure? HOW? WHY? Please . . . explain. Enlighten us. The world would like to understand.
rmcdaniel423 1 year ago
Evidence for God = 0 You might just as well believe in Hobbits.
jgsouter 1 year ago
@jgsouter Hey, that offends me. Hobbits are real. I talk to them every night in my thoughts! that means they're real!
Anonx78345 1 year ago
i must buy it to wipe my arse witht,wat a crock of shite
BABYACHTUNG67 1 year ago
save the savior !
puphspoet 1 year ago
..............Pot smoking children? o_O
Eternalsummersong 1 year ago 5
Everything in the book about God is wrong. Sorry to break it to you.
Freenetnow 1 year ago
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I can't wait to read that book.
metz3962 1 year ago
thank you,my next book!
InSinGrin 1 year ago
lol.. available at disinfo.com! what an apt name for the distributers of this nonsense!
JesusisPerfect 1 year ago
what a stupid no lesson video were all religious here. Why do we have to listen WHAT AN IDIOT WHO CREATED THIS VIDEO!
bcassalino 1 year ago
This dudes voice on the video sounds like he work for Don Lapre's "Infomercials" like the famous "I can show you how to place a TINY CLASSIFIED AD and make MILLIONS" - Man Athiests are loosers.
tinfoilrepair 1 year ago
Religion owns.
Mesarphelous 1 year ago
pot smokin childer? idiotic video if u go by science herb is actually very damn good .. an god is real i feel sorry the ones that dont know h.i.m. peace godbless rastafari !
beastofpeace 1 year ago
this video is fear tactics squared.
AnarchyRules17 1 year ago
Everything they know about god is wrong also so in effect they are not lying.. The religious flavor of each century is all bastardized religion (IE Business).. If you don't believe in god then you must believe in the devil. (Maybe not as a "being") But the inherent evil of Mans deceptive motives (Be it false religion with odd practices, money making schemes to control people, The NWO or just plain greed)
favsncrap 1 year ago
FAITH is all you need to know u may not see or hear him but ohhhh hes there and hes powerful
pantastic16 1 year ago
Everything You Know About leprechaun Is Wrong
DareD3viLl 1 year ago
funny its simple God = Fantasy
the fiction of the past
alcidesflores79 1 year ago
If those people are not conformed with our religion, why dont they just keep it to themselves and dont mess up with our lives? if they "hate" God so much, why dont they just leave him alone! No man can know EVERYTHING about God, but what we NEED to know is that he loves us more than anything else, therefore we must love him back. I love him back. And I dont believe a word these people say, but many other do believe them, so if we dont mess up if THEIR lives, why should they mess up with ours ?
aleewehber1209 1 year ago
@aleewehber1209 It's asked of you to have faith, in what do you have faith in? Support the churches beliefs? Support the God's understanding? Support others in gratitude for equality?
All of these need knowledge to understand their faiths. So down to the basics it is understanding yourself and your world which creates most prosperity. For arrogance leads to misery.
XaneCrazy 1 year ago
i guess every one can choose wats right n wrong but this book is just SUCKY!!! this will cause religious fights and other bad things..THIS IS SUCKY PLS PPL DONT LISTEN TO THIS CRAP>>ISLAM IS GREAT..
hhh285 1 year ago
@hhh285, koolaid is great too. everyone choosing wats right n wrong is all well and fine when they stick to keeping outrageous claims and myths out of government institutions especially education. The recent decision by the Texas School Board to rewrite history books to suit their conservative, right-wing and clearly religious propaganda.
dubbleplusgood 1 year ago
This is complete crap forgive me if u do not like this but as a jehovas witness I think that you do not Deserve to live on the everlasting earth that's just retarded now why would u even think to write that? Even if u hate religion u can't write a book saying u know nothing about jehovah !!! Get a life ! And I am saying thus to whoever wrote the book and whoever posted this vid because it is your fault that probobly 500 more people know about this than it would have without this post !!!!
bable4u 1 year ago
Anyone who believes in any religion is simply a stupid and uneducated or uninformed person. Thats just a simple fact. If you can see what religions really are...then waste your life on stupidy, you deserve no better.
derbigpr500 2 years ago
thats just an opinion, not a fact, so if you will waste your breathe and voice, make sure it is in something SANE and THOUGHTFUL please
aleewehber1209 1 year ago
ur near death experience will come and ull see what happens:)
pantastic16 1 year ago
@pantastic16 well m8 i got hit by lightening and i was clinicly dead for 4 hours and i can tell you i didnt see a god,,, and before it i was actually on my way to turning christian
uberhax0r1 1 year ago
Religion is just a load of crap invented by so called 'prophets' to explain the unknown.
DanHegarty365 2 years ago
To control big masses of people more correctly said.
derbigpr500 2 years ago 3
who is gonna read this book anyway? devils?
the author and writer of this book is totally a devil!!!!so the authors of this must go to hell!!!
garapatapwet 2 years ago
read a book instead watching a movie disinformation. They call themsellf what they bring lol
akaboy4life 2 years ago
Its called Faith assholes ever heard of it. It means no matter how much crap surfaces like this, trust your religion and youll be okay
watcher18893 2 years ago
I wonder if Hinduism is the most complex religion, there are literally over a thousand sub religious groups that make it up I read but I know that say for every church you could call that a religious group too or maybe not. Anybody know if I'm right?
Lootraevefan 2 years ago
Some Christians asked me to try praying to God. I did, but God told me he never existed.
gupsphoo 2 years ago
Why are Christians watching the video?
Luigi84289 2 years ago
i fully support pot smoking children lol
saigonbeats 2 years ago
wtf is this garbage....
Shroctopus 2 years ago
Any of you christian shit heads even read this book? Of course not! This is how christians operate, in complete ignorance. Well, I have read this book in addition to your bible, torah, koran, and dozens of other gnostic, christian, buddhist, and hindu texts.
samyaza93 2 years ago 2
As one who is in league with satan I highly recommend this book. For those of you who hate free speech and love to bugger babies I recommend the "Holy Bible".
samyaza93 2 years ago
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You do realise that the so called elites pushing the new world order all worship satan right?
JESUS CHRIST is the only hope through the coming chaos.
WakeUpBritain2009 2 years ago
Man atheists piss me off. They tell you how religion is evil, and how it forces you to think a certain way, and then all these atheists try and force their views down your thought, and think that they are all knowing. I don't believe in organized religion myself, I think man corrupted it a long time ago, but I do believe in a creator.
RageAgainstNWO 2 years ago
not all atheist are like that. I mean what would really piss you off someone who told you that god doesn't like homosexuals when he created them or there is no god because god will gradually accept everyone pure of heart.
blizzard7006 2 years ago
LMAO pot soming kids ROLF
CurrentlyDisconected 2 years ago 2
lmao 1:00
"gaymen" xD
P4infulDu3ling 2 years ago
Ever question the movies brought to you by "Disinformation" and note the symbol of a horned creature. This can be a conspiracy theory in its own. Satan uses illusion and deception as a method for us to turn our back on god. Just the symbolism I have seen with their logo and messages spell out the message of Satanism. Get your facts straight and know both sides before you unconditionally believe this dangerous propoganda.
3asyrider75 2 years ago
If you truly seek him, you will find him, but if you look blindly you will stumble in the darkness of your denial of Him. No flesh can provide you evidence. Only God through that person can reveal such an existence. I will no longer battle this arguement. you are going to believe what you will, What happens next is between you and God.
MrParr09 2 years ago
it is not true.there is really a God
DXinvasion 2 years ago 2
please - just agree to disagree and move on.
rod798 2 years ago
Another book that is going to take some people straight to Hell... However I do not think many would buy it lol. How can one say that there is no God? Put Religon and Dogma aside. What other shade of green or blue do u need to see? One cell in our body is more complex than New York City! Seriously! What is wrong with God? He teaches us to love on another... forgivness ect. There is EVIL that exists in this world and many men do not fear God and can pay off the man but Jesus is a just Judge& God
truthbeknowen 2 years ago
The thing is, religion is dangerous; and i quote Bill Maher, " Religion allows humans who dont have all the answers to think that they do, and since there are no gods actually talking to us, that void is filled by humans with their own corruptions"
crackwhen 2 years ago
Religion is not dangerous, religions are merely intellectual constructs generated out of evolutionary traits that suited fitness. I consider Jung correct in asserting that religion and God are inherent to human psychology, though they are, of course, not real.
What is "dangerous" is people who choose to use violence, and that has more to do with their parents child-rearing practices than with their ideology.
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
i know humans need to fell as though their is something bigger out there that controls our lives, but its crazy; and religion is dangerous because we fight wars for Gods that dont even exist
crackwhen 2 years ago
You did not pay attention to what I said, at all.
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
the point is that religion IS DANGEROUS; think about it; the bible talks of the end of days and that blood must be shed for jesus to return; WE DO NOT have to be sucked in into this self-fulfilling prophecy were we have to kill each other, when we could just simply disobey and act like reasonable, and knowledgable human beings
crackwhen 2 years ago
Again, you did not pay attention to what I actually said. Go back and read it again.
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
funny, you keep telling me to pay attention to what you said, but you never deny my statements, so that means im right, yay
crackwhen 2 years ago
No, I'm not defending it because you set up a strawman rather than refute my argument, which means that I win. Yay!
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
i did read your comments, and i agree with you that god does not exist, but religion in itself is filled with violence without adding child-rearing practices
crackwhen 2 years ago
You have it backwards. It is child-rearing practices that drive people to religion.
The ideology does not exist, it is merely an intellectual construct. The child abuse DOES exist.
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
so, ignorant people are the ones who believe in god
crackwhen 2 years ago
What does that have to do with what I was saying? You just want to hate on believers, which is petty and asinine.
Beyond that your statement isn't even accurate! Human beings only perceive a tiny fraction of the totality of existence, so really we are ALL ignorant, not just the theists.
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
i meant naive people believe in god, oh and by the way God doesnt exist, peace!!
crackwhen 2 years ago
I know that (qualifier) the Christian God does not have any supporting evidence. I said that in my first reply.
Peace, or whatever
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
HAHA! "and pot smoking children."
Z2oo7 2 years ago
k HORRIBLE COMMERCIAL
I'm an atheist and this is not the way to convert and teach the people
God is not so Great
Everything you know about god is wrong
those titles need a different approach if you want a christian to pick it up
and the commercial was just lame
weird sermons, odd artifacts just plain werid
yeah just cuz its "werid" from your view means it bad
your making us look like the bad guys
BaltoMovie 2 years ago 2
Pt.1
Why the hell do people take the right to laugh on others who do believe in, for example, aliens?
Let me explain:
They are argumenting that there is not any evidence or a indication for those and that it is nonsense to believe in flying saucers and everything that comes along with them.
And it´s nothing else than sience fiction.
gallai1 2 years ago
Pt. 2
But a unknown !!!ALSO NEVERSEEN!!! old man with a white beard who calls himself arrogantly and self-righteous GOD, who created earth with "MAGICAL POWERS" from an unknown source within six days and made a man out of clay and a woman out of one of mans ribs and at least decided to leave absolutley no evidence for his very own existence....yeah....
THAT SOUNDS WAY MORE REALISTIC!!!!
gallai1 2 years ago
you fucking fag why did u post this fagty ass video
bobbobzoom3 2 years ago
"Are you waiting for a holy man from the worlds religions to tell you the thruth?!" WRITE YOUR OWN!!!!!! hahaha. Though it would be nice that one day the thruth will come form a Atheist or just someone who really just knows things. And for as far as U.S. religious peeps, keep in mind; "There's always a Boss above the Boss...
SweetFire96 2 years ago
okay i really dont like this.. people have the freedom to believe in whatever they want and i hate it when someone deciedes to shove their noses up some other religions ass and try to prove them wrong
i mean, im not religious or anything. im atheist. hell, im actually agnostic and i really think people should mind their own damn business. stop trampling on the beliefs of others.
SonOfaWalnut 2 years ago
But theist have been trampling the beliefs of not only Agnostics and Atheist, they have been killing each other for thousands of years over who is more right then the other and who's book is more holy...
It's time for freethinkers and rationalist to step up and demand a stop to this insanity. How long before some fundamentalist nut job sets off a nuke in a city in the name of his religion?
torak101 2 years ago
Religion is used by governments to keep the masses in fear and under control and stop the idiots to think for themselves. Who doesnt know this!! Couple more generations and we might be free of this mind control
1308ism 2 years ago 13
@1308ism
yup yup!!.lol
ThePowerOfNow1 1 year ago
Atheism FTW! Science killed all Religions ...
XazorozaX 2 years ago 5
So true, Science Kill Religions but they cant never kill ower faith.....
La ciencia puede matar las religiones.... pero nunca nuestra fe!!!!!
JEIVANA 2 years ago
@XazorozaX not real Buddah, cus he speak from his expereience.
jnnycliff 1 year ago
@XazorozaX CRAP!
msdaif 1 year ago
Are you sure this is serious, looked like a SNL skit!
speciesofjael 2 years ago
Wow, what a waste of time. Give me my time back you stupid bastard.
cruelfate45 2 years ago
EPIC FAIL
dont buy that piece of shit
WHATKIDS123456 2 years ago
STUPID
nmmmm187 2 years ago
yay for pot smoking children!!!
luciferiexcelsil 2 years ago 3
God is the Greatest, For the King but God and Mohammed is his prophet.
timad06 2 years ago
FAIL!!!!
CREATIVE1N 2 years ago
The name of God the Merciful
I bear witness that no god but God i bear witness THAT muhammad the god's messanger
timad06 2 years ago
ehhh....you're stupid....
Appledude500 2 years ago
I'm agnostic, I will never worship, nor pray or bow down to a god or gods.
But I have far more morals than most, my life has purpose and I am existent with every particle of my body and mind.
oozume 2 years ago
FINALLY!!
Someone with some Intelligent Says something!!
DiogNewmen 2 years ago