Into the Storm (part 1)

[OrangeG3]

9:30 - 9:40 What David Cameon watched before he vetoed the EU treaty last week

[108Dax]

I like the Gathering Storm's Churchill actor more. He got the voice down well, but I would've like to see this part of the war with those actors too.

[h8tingit]

wow, thank you for uploading this movie!

[slowstrummer]

God Bless Winston Churchill, the greatest man of our time. God save the Queen.

Thank you Sir for all that you have done for me, my country and my children.

[Grifiki]

"Whenyou write fiction, it's so easy to rewrite your first draft, but the rewriting for this movie was so altered from the truth; I think they needed to write four drafts to cover up all their mistakes!"

[jsgg]

I've heard lots of good things about Max Hastings's 'Finest Years' . Anyone read it?

[SputnikMovies]

What the fuck is the Demon Headmaster doing in the War Cabinet?!

[Nullo247]

Anywhere you can get the music for this?

[Historyoftheworld88]

this is Wonderful film ...i love it... i watch it 7 time

[VigisKane]

@markwain45

fascism is an economic theory of third position, using both communism and capatalism, using the good bits of both ideology and excluding the bad bits, its believes in corporatism, every major trade, for instance nurses, would have their own corporation that can then levy with the goverment for things such as wages and working hours, it is nationalistic not racist, it believes that the nation is superior to all overs, nazism is ardent racism and economically it is all over the place

[pedroissler]

@VigisKane Fascism is not just an economic theory. Every fascist experienced involved total or an unproportionate supression of political opposition. If ever I disagree with you, I go to jail in a fascist state. Please, you are not a fascist. You can be a patriot, but please don't say you're a fascist when it's evident you have no clue of what you are talking about.

[pedroissler]

@VigisKane Secret polices, a controlled media. Everything must satisfy the nation's leader, everyone must praise the leader, there can be no discontent. Fascism is not as nice as you are thinking it is.

[VigisKane]

@pedroissler

Do you really believe we do not have that now?, just in place of a ''leader'' you have elitist politicians and bankers

[pedroissler]

@VigisKane It's not a matter of belief or disbelief, Fascism is dead and buried in the West.

[VigisKane]

@pedroissler

On the contrary, western goverments are bribed and ordered by major companies and firms with self interests, that is at heart Fascism, just stripped of its nationalist and militaristic qualities

[pedroissler]

@VigisKane No, the heart of fascism is it's political system. What you're talking about is called corporativism.

[VigisKane]

@pedroissler Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.

Benito Mussolini

from the mouth of the creator of fascism

[pedroissler]

@VigisKane It's not the same thing. In a fascist state you can't criticize the leader. All must submit to the state.

Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state. - that's the true motto of fascism.

Note that he says "nothing AGAINST the state" to make clear they really won't tolerate any political opposition.

[pedroissler]

@VigisKane Even though, in today's western world it is a common thing for citizens to criticize their leaderships. You see protests in the streets and political discussion.

[pedroissler]

@VigisKane There is a strong left that does what you're doing (call everyone a fascist) on a daily basis. So we can't be living in fascism.

[suspicious35]

@pedroissler Fascism is a leftist ideology. Big government, anti capitalism, anti religion and massive social engineering.

[pedroissler]

@suspicious35 no you stupid thug, it's not

[suspicious35]

@pedroissler wow can't argue against that; it's not an argument so much as a cheap ad-hominem insult

[pedroissler]

@suspicious35 Your last comment is the only insult here, it insults my intelligence, I was just stating a fact.

[Slamdumb020]

@pedroissler It's just retherotic thingy though... fascism is as bad as lefty ideology

[pedroissler]

@Slamdumb020 kind of but not the same thing

there were no collectivizations and there were still plutocrats even in post-war Germany

[bxjam85]

@suspicious35 I think it's a little more complicated than that. Fascism is a centrist ideology as it combines ideas from both the left and the right. Also, not all leftist ideologies are for big government. Anarcho-Collectivist ideologies are left-wing and anti-statist.

[suspicious35]

@bxjam85 I would not say fascism is centrist. One could could argue that is a so-called third position ideology. Also, Fascism under the Nazis was much more leftist than under the Italians. I would reject the Anarcho-Collectivist example out of hand, because Communism is also a left ideology which is nominally anti-statist and calls for an end to government. If Anarcho-Collectivism was taken seriously, the result would mirror Communism, a brutal expansion of the state justified by false equity.

[bxjam85]

@suspicious35 That's why some scholars have called it a radical centrist ideology because it's a "third position ideology" if you will. Anarcho-Collectivism only amounts to communism if you take away money and supply goods freely. Whether or not an anarcho-collectivist society is sustainable without a state is beside the point. The point is that not every leftist ideology is statist. In fact, in the early days it was the right wingers who were authoritarian statists.

[suspicious35]

@bxjam85 Radical Centrist is a contradiction in terms, it's like fanatically apathetic. Further, it is a severe over-generalization to characterize fascism because of the wide range of differences between fascist states. the elimination of money and the free supply of goods is implied in all forms of collectivism. I would also point out that the way an ideology would necessarily be is of more important than the idealized fantasy of that ideology.

[bxjam85]

@suspicious35 I agree that radical centrist is a contradiction in terms, but it has been used by scholars, which only demonstrates just difficult it is to situate fascism. It may also demonstrate the ineffectiveness of the left-right spectrum and the leveling effects of modernist politics.

[suspicious35]

@bxjam85 Bravo! I find no fault with this statement. I think the left-right spectrum should express levels of government involvement, with far right being anarchy and far left being communism and collectivism.

[bxjam85]

@suspicious35 I despise the left-right spectrum for different reasons. I'm an unapologetic elitist, so an up-down spectrum or high-low spectrum would better suit my taste.

[suspicious35]

@bxjam85 Would you Elaborate? Would this spectrum analyze based on which class benefits the most from them? Or would it analyze politics based on which class an ideology's supporters come from?

[bxjam85]

@suspicious35 The spectrum would be based on whether or not a political ideology appeals to the mediocre masses or the excellent few. It would also be based on whether or not a political ideology appeals to absolute resentment for authority or respect for hierarchical class distinction. Needless to say, egalitarian democracy and socialism are at the very bottom of this spectrum.

[suspicious35]

@bxjam85 Defining excellence with wealth or with education? Where do ideologies that pretend to be for the unwashed masses but are actually elitist fall? Communism is the example of this.

[bxjam85]

@suspicious35 Excellence as in talent or quality that is unusually good or surpasses ordinary standards. Every ideology is, in some way, elitist in practice. No society can actually get rid of elites. Elites are a natural product of human societies, especially complex human societies. The question is whether or not the elites are truly excellent or are they just mediocre demagogues that feed on the mediocrity and resentment of the masses.

[suspicious35]

@bxjam85 If every ideology is elitist, wouldn't all ideologies be at the top of the scale?

[bxjam85]

@suspicious35 You must make use of perspective here. I said that every ideology is elitist in practice but only in the sense that elites are a natural product of every society. If a society is founded on an appeal to mediocrity, envy and demagoguery, the elites of that society will only be the best of the mediocre, the envious and the demagogues. This is the only type of "excellence" that such an inferior society can produce.

[educatedrock]

@bxjam85 case in point the Tea Party.

[bxjam85]

@educatedrock The democratic party is another case in point, in fact more so.

[Ranillon]

@bxjam85 Fascism is overwhelmingly seen by experts as a far-Right Wing ideology -- the notion that it is somehow "centrist" is a view held by a tiny minority that confuses actions with ideology -- a rather fundamental mistake given that Fascism (like all similar 'isms") is about why you do things, not how. Fascism was/is hyper-nationalistic and exclusionary, open only to the "right" people while seeing most others as direct threats against the "group," a classic far-right viewpoint.

[VigisKane]

@markwain45

I am British and i am a Fascist not a Nazi, quite a difference

[MultiPlayaaa]

Brendon Gleeson is a brilliant actor  1 off a kind .if theres ever a movie with him in it ill watch it because i no

ILL LOVE IT

[TheReboot70]

hmmmm..... he certainly has the voice right,but... think he's a little to thin.(guess I'm being to literal.) looks really good so far.....

[azandhind4eva]

actually i woud prefer albert finney for this role....his resembleance to Churchill & also way he actsis closer to Churchill than any other including Brendon Gleeson! not that Brendon was a dissapointment ! but i wud prefer Finney! H ewas really good! much better than Bendon! that is all! thats what i think how many wud agree let us see! give me cheers if ud agree!

[pedroissler]

lol @ 5:36

[ThomasSmithThomas]

whats the quote/poem at the very begining?

[ThomasSmithThomas]

whats the quote/poem at the very begining?

[rahulpnq]

@ThomasSmithThomas Its a poem by Thomas Babington Macaulay -"Horatius," stanza XXVII in Lays of Ancient Rome...

Then out spake brave Horatius,

The Captain of the Gate:

"To every man upon this earth

Death cometh soon or late.

And how can man die better

Than facing fearful odds,

For the ashes of his fathers,

And the temples of his gods..."

[MaxHeimst]

Why didn't they use the same cast as in the first film?

[ttodd74]

all a bit simplistic and 'history channel', no?

[aBritaBroad]

If Hitler had done what he'd set out to do...I'd of grew up in an England none of us wold of known/know or not even here.

[ChaseWilliams]

You know what really bugs me? This is NOT available on iTunes, it is NOT available on PAL DVD for European markets.. but only available on NTSC import from the States. That really gets my goat. Long live Youtube and thank you very very much TheWarWind for posting this!!

[gopconservative78]

The French surrendered, the British didn't!

[BeijingisBeijing]

@gopconservative78

the british never had german soldiers' boots on their soil, nor a fresh memory of a devasted country from the war before. I think that places one in a distinctly different position. Though, the british, nevertheless, fought with indubitable bravery at great costs to their own. A great deed Europeans will never forget.

[TheGroundedAviator]

@BeijingisBeijing And they were disorgernised. But they put up one hell of a fight but knew there was only destruction if they went on. Only a fool would fight if it ment total destruction when there was a chance of getting them by the balls later.

[TheGroundedAviator]

@BeijingisBeijing Opps sorry I replyied too you by mistake. Sorry.

[pandamanadrin]

@BeijingisBeijing

How is Beijing. I know about the awful truth of Nanking. Perhaps you should that China. the USA and Great Britain were on the same side.

[Kralhonj]

@gopconservative78 The British lived on an island with natural defences, the French didn't, they lived next door to the angry Ubermen...I'm a Brit, one who likes history and I think that when you strip away the propaganda you'll find that we ran away....and later called it the Dunkirk Spirit, NEVER SURRENDER!!! etc, Utter bollocks, if the Germans had invaded with significant force we would have surrendered without a shadow of a doubt. We would have had no choice, surrender or be slaughtered.

[busterhart11]

Worst portrayal of Winston Churchill I have ever seen. Where was Albert Finney for the job? This no talent Irishman Brendan Gleeson has all of the charm, talent and appeal of someone like Rush Limbaugh trying to play the role. Really bad HBO!!

[Nikifuj908]

This is an amazing film. A great companion to Downfall, but it shines on its own as well.

[dezboss]

Winston S Churchill, for all his faults, was unutterably one of the greatest englishmen ever. A patriotic warrior who was never going to see our great nation defeated by the Nazis.

[wotnuhellizdis]

"Spitting Image" with previously well regarded actors.There's no excuse for this pap.

[john151988]

Outstanding.. can you get this on dvd ?

[mysweeteventhorizon]

I marvel at those who speak in such glowing terms of those men of conviction and of courage who with set jaw and clenched fists provided stewardship to see a nation through its darkest and most troubling times...now those same men ignore the difficulties that once again rear its ugly head on the horizon....islam rears its head and former gladiators and patriots tremble with fear and speak of tolerance and compromise...such cowardice fills me with the urge to defaecate. I weep for the republic.

[bacunited]

@mysweeteventhorizon fills you with the urge to take a shit? fuckin weird...

[shadowkitty56]

Churchill was the grey champion of this era, what Britain needed the most. If you look at most of his portraits, that dour face with the piercing eyes, you'll discover something:

Winston Churchill looks just like a bulldog.

Winston Churchill acted just like a bulldog.

Fitting for a land whose symbol IS the bulldog!!

[TheDarkKnight990]

Not only did Winston Churchill save England he might have saved the world by not giving in to the Nazis. He was an excellent leader and one of the toughest leaders ever.

[darkcowboyhero]

An Irishman playing Churchill, you couldn't make it up!

Brilliant job by Gleeson.

[TheDevilsBit]

@darkcowboyhero

Gleeson once played Michael Collins, the Irish guerilla leader who was a member of the Irish delegation who negotiated the 1922 with Lloyd George and his team including Winston Churchill the threaty that established Irish independence in an Irish television film. In Ireland Churchill was hated for his hardline imperialist position and it was feared by De Valera that he would order an invasion of neutral Eire during WW2 to deny its ports to a German invasion force.

[ravensmead]

we needed Albert ......where was he ?

[archon199]

starting at 3:45 what was that song name

[ariete20]

I've just e-mailed HBO about this. I'll let you know as soon as I get an answer.

[Abyssery]

@archon199 I want to find out also, it's epic.

[13lackLight]

5:12 Does that guy reading the schedule look a bit like the guy from the Mac vs PC commericals?

[ciroalb3]

Of course Gleeson is too big to play WC, but it works dramatically, and a good sense of the defeatism of Halifax and that circle. Never thought of the king's reaction to WC, who was the great champion of his brother the Duke of Windsor

[Nullo247]

Is there anywhere you can download the music for this?

[SarahRyan2002]

Check out 'sarah ryan Deluded' You will either love it or hate it.

[workingclassbum]

Its a fantastic performance by Brendon Gleeson. Really portrays Winston with all his flaws as well as his many great qaulities.

Despite his place in modern history he managed to rub alot of important people up the wrong way and you really see why!

[KalashnikovBoy94]

GREAT QUALITY!!! Thanks for uploading again!

[KalashnikovBoy94]

I saw the nomination for this on the last nights Golden Globe Awards,

Thanks for Uploading it for us to watch. Looks interesting and cant wait to watch!

[chofaigh]

thanks for uploading :)

[VigisKane]

THE BRITISH BULLDOG

[UberHaxorNova2]

@VigisKane WWE!!!