The guy that got her pregnant was probably old enough to be an parent and got the abortion done without providing the notary with any id but had her birth certificate and violating the laws with the clinic in order to get around parental consent or judicial bypass.
If the monsters that hurt these girls would get punished, then services like these wouldnt come about......also anti-choice people......how many unwanted kids have you adopted????
I'm proud of what Dr. Boyd does and how much compassion and love he shows in caring for women and their health. I mourn the death and loss of Dr. Tiller.
Wow, so you would rather have 9 and 10 year old children giving birth (Which is proven unhealthy and dangerous since their bodies aren't developed enough to handle pregnancy) that were quite likely raped to conceive, then have abortion around, you guys don't really like kids much or fetuses :P
So this is what calls himself a doctor? He certainly covered up rape didnt he. Poor child was raped twice. Law enforcement is a joke. Children are being medically raped. The people have a right to bring these monsters to justice.
continued : i am against later term abortion. i would like it to be limited to no more than 12-14 weeks maximum. if a woman goes beyond that point then adoption is another option but pulling a fully formed large baby from the womb is not ok with me. i am sorry for those who have done this i do not mean to hurt anyone..just is my own feelings on the matter.
wow. i can respect this man though. he is clear he believes it is killing. he holds some moral feelings about it. but he also feels that is is needed for the young girls and women that seek this procedure. i appreciate his honesty and his belief. i would rather someone be honest as he is than to lie and say " it's not a baby" yes it is but the decision is made anyway by the mother and he supports it. hard yes and maybe wrong..but he does what he does and so do the mothers.
My question is,, where were the parents or guardians while the child was having sex? This is insane! This "doctor" is nothing more than a murderer. He ought to be ashamed of homself! What a disgrace he is!
@luckylondon12 YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT NIGGER BABY ABORTED NOT ‘BUY’ IT TO BECOME A PARASITE! You have obviously had minimal education having demonstrated you are a pathological liar - return to whoring with your inbred trash family, incest and birth defects. You are visibly unsophisticated and even an art schoolteacher would demonstrate some rudimentary breeding -- you have none! Sadly, every time one reads your retarded nonsense one thinks of the wretched film ‘deliverance’.
@CowieMooCowxo87 Are you even listening to me? I was being sarcastic you idiot! I was pointing out that had the parents been watching their daughter as they should have been rather than being off doing their own thing, their child would not have gotten pregnant in the first place. Abortion is murder and needs to be stopped. As far as your profanity, I won't even dignify it with a response. You need to grow up. We are discussing serious issues, not the prom.
@loner1878 Look in any biology textbook. The most it will say is that pregnancy begins at implantation.
Dose not sperm making contact with the egg play in this at any time ? Just wondering, I see the point you are making here, But then still there is an egg & there is sperm making contact, Yes then the implantation ect... The whole cycle of life thing .
@loner1878 Once again, that is all subjective. LAs far as science is really concerned, life began about a billion years ago and is a continuous process.
No, no its not subjective, It is fact, It has yes been going on for millions of years & it was nice of you to point that out, The natural way of things is as such, Sperm egg life is born. Not unless something intervene with the process..
Keep up your argument, You are helping me allot here, Thanks :)
What about the guy who got the 9year old preg ? Did the doctor report it ? Or did he just move on? 9 year olds do not get preg without sever sexual abuse.... I do not see to many comments about that, Is that ok with you pro choice ppl ? You know that a 9 year old child has been used as a sex toy by a perv ? Then the doctor helps him cover it up by aborting the child ?
Look at you, spouting about a case you clearly have zero clue about but feel justified in pretending this doctor has done something wrong.
Maybe the guy was already arrested or police are on the lookout for him? This doctor is simply helping his patient. If he were "covering it up" why would he do the interview? You are a fucking disgusting liar.
Its obvious you don't give a shit about the raped 9 year old. If it were up to you, she'd be forced to give birth to her rapists spawn.
@loner1878 abortion is MURDER any way you try to TWIST the facts; look at you--you don't know anymore about this particular case than anyone else; however, you hold yourself up as some authority on the subject; doctors are not supposed to KILL and this abortion will have an irreversible negative impact on this 9-yr-old girl for life; get yourself help
@loner1878 Abortion is Murder; it is apparent that you are a person of non-stop babble who cruises youtube to keep people arguing with you in order to fill your life with meaning-LONER-it is simple-ABORTION IS MURDER; enough said on the subject, now go join a group or get a hobby or something, get yourself out around real live people, maybe they will be of help for your mental health issues
LOL, if I'm the person of "non-stop babble," what does that make you? You keep copy and pasting "Abortion is Murder" and endlessly repeat your nonsensical claims about abortion like you have no ability to process counterpoints. Why don't you get a hobby or join a group or something and find some real people? Why are you on youtube in the first place?
Strike two for flagrant hyprocrisy! XD
You're pretty funny, its so obvious just how clueless you are.
@loner1878 -Abortion is murder. No I do not want a 9 yr old arrested I want whoever raped her arrested; and yes, as sad as the situation is the 9 yr old should give birth to her baby; the damage from probable multiple rapes from the perpetrator has already done the damage so lets not pile the guilt and horror of abortion on top of that heap of torment; You're sick to go around toting the concept of murder (abortion) as if it is nothing-must be a male-I can see why your name is loner
No, its not murder. Look at you, imposing your ignorant beliefs on a raped child. For most women abortion brings relief. Do you have any idea what full term birth can do to the body of a child? Now THAT is horror.
@loner1878 to begin with I commented on a video I did not impose anything on this poor lil girl; but look at you-all brainwashed by the media toting around and spouting off their propoganda about the wonders of abortion-Abortion IS MURDER-anyway you choose to twist the truth that fact will not change-do you have any idea what abortion and its consequences will do to the body and mind of a child? Now THAT is horror
If it were up to you that girl would be forced to give birth, you made that very clear.
LOL, what bullshit. Abortion is still largely taboo in the media - except on Faux Noise - oh I mean Fox News, which you probably obsessively watch.
Abortion will do nothing negative to the mind or body, despite how much you wish it would. Do you know what full term birth and its consequences will do to the body and mind of a raped child? Now quit repeating yourself.
@loner1878 Abortion will do nothing negative to the mind or body,
You may wish to do a little more research the subject a little more, I know ppl that had it done, The 9 yo girl that we are speaking of has a large reduced chance of getting preg again, have higher chance of breast cancer, Then issue with the girl dealing with the hormonal flux of being preg on sec not the next, That dose a number to mind & body..But then you would deny that beings you had an abortion yourself.
I have done much research on that subject, that's why I know it has little negative effects. Your side propagated myths like "post abortion sydrome" which no medical establishment research supports. Giving birth is far more likely to cause injury or death than any abortion. The breast cancer myth has been long debunked by exhaustive studies by both the U.S. and UK panels. The American Cancer Association flat out states it is a myth.
Have you ever looked into it ? I know a woman for a fact that is going though it as we speak, I did not know she had one till some time latter, But noticed that she was having some real problems, Come to find out she aborted her child, She was in collage at the time, Thought it was the thing to do, So she could finish school ect, The depression was to much for her, She dropped out, Still battling.. Her story is not the only one, Cont..
I've very much looked into it, and once AGAIN, that is why I know it is a myth. It is not recognized by the APA.
-A study published Fall of 2010 in the leading journal Social Science and Medicine found little support for the "abortion-as-trauma" framework pushed by anti-choice advocates.
-Associated Press (2011): According to a UK health agency's review of dozens of studies worldwide over 20 years, abortion does not increase a woman's chance of developing mental health problems.
Are all that have one effected the same way by it ? NO I can not say that, But there are many & its an real issue for them, Now from the National Abortion Federation they of course would say that its a myth, That was like Marlboro back in the day saying that there was no link to smoking & cancer.
I know you think its ok, That is your deal, Question is, Would a child be born at the end of 9 months of being preg ? answer is YES, TO end it would prevent that child from birth.
@loner1878 But funny enough, some forms of breast cancer can be triggered by giving birth. I bet you don't warn pregnant women of that little tidbit.
Early age at first full-term pregnancy: Women who have their first full-term pregnancy at an early age have a decreased risk of developing breast cancer later in life.
From the National Cancer Institute .. just looked it up :) A little homework & one finds the facts..
Fact is you end the life cycle you are ending an intended life.
Source: Kelsey JL, Gammon MD, John EM. Reproductive factors and breast cancer. Epidemiologic Reviews 1993; 15(1):36–47
Dickson RB, Pestell RG, Lippman ME. Cancer of the breast. In: DeVita VT Jr., Hellman S, Rosenberg SA, editors. Cancer: Principles and Practice of Oncology. Vol. 1 and 2. 7th ed. Philadelphia: Lippincott Williams and Wilkins, 2004.
Might want to do a little more than a simple google search next time ;) Put some real effort in.
My mother CHOSE to have me. I wouldn't have wanted her forced to have me, I respect my mother too much for that. If she had, so what? I wouldn't know the difference any more than if she had chosen to be abstient for life.
I'm really mystified why antis this that is a good counter argument. If I (or you) didn't exist, someone else would be here in our place.
LOL, I'm female, sweetie. So if I had the word "ninja" in my username you would believe I was really a ninja...? Wow, I hope you did better in other subjects besides critical thinking at school. And this is probably too advanced for you, but my username is a reference to a literary character (story set in the year 1878) who was a loner. What's wrong with being a loner anyway? I suppose you can't handle being by yourself for 5 minutes. Aw, poor baby.
@loner1878 LOL, shoot, by your immature rantings I figured you were a frustrated teenaged boy, haha, you sure had me fooled; oh, and I figured your name pretty much fit your lifestyle-you know loner meaning alone; save the Aw poor baby for yourself-it is apparent that you need it--and Abortion is still MURDER no matter how you twist the facts or try to rant and change the subject; go be alone some more-LONER
Ah, ad hominems. The sure sign of insecure shit debaters everywhere. Its not often to see someone desperately resort to them in the early stages of an argument, I guess I must have you intimidated already. This will be easier than I thought.
Did you miss my reply explaining that my username is a literary reference? Oh well, its pretty much a hallmark for people like you to block out inconvinent information.
So are you really a pug dog who can type or do you just look like one?
Let me (a man) kick a pregnant belly and the "fetus" aborts because of that, I will be charged with murder. Which is it? How can I be charged with murder when you say it's not a human being if a woman decides to abort it? Life begins at conception.
@Seekerr1 you are absolutely correct=any society that agree with slaughtering innocent babies is no society at all; every female who gets an abortion needs to know exactly what her baby looks like and what this procedure does to them; a small fully formed baby is literally ripped to shreds within the womans uterus, sucked out and thrown in the garbage-welcome to abortion
@pugdogy First of all, it's not a baby, it can't live outside of the womb and it can't feel pain.
Its stuff like this that makes me sick, They even deny that the child is a human, Its on its way to being born, Life has started for them,To end it is stopping the life cycle, Its only logic, But then those that are hell bent on murder will justify it in any way possible, Hitler did it with the Jews, Abortionist are just repeating what he had done.I do not like calling them pro choice.Cont
LOL, then no society is a society. Abortion methods have been practiced all over the world, legally and illegally, for over 4000 years.
Contrary to your edited up and mislabeled gory pics, early trimester abortions look like nothing but cell clumps. An honest photo would do nothing to change a woman's mind.
Logic states that once sperm makes contact with the egg the life cycle has started, To interfere at any time to end that cycle is ending a life..
You my dear friend need to rethink yourself & your logic, That is the problem with you ppl you neglect LOGIC & go for some form of random thought, Its like you all are trying to deny nature for what is truly going on.. You have sex, A girl gets preg, She gives birth in 9 months, If you do not want a child, Simply don have sex.
That is soley an opinion based on your interpretation of logic.
But lets play around with your "logic" for a second. According to your logic, you should support the mandatory inspections of pads and tampons of all women every month. Because 50-75% of early embryos spontaneously abort before a woman even knows she is pregnant. They appear as regular or late periods.
So would you support these mandatory inspections so that death certificates and funerals can be mandated?
@loner1878 you should support the mandatory inspections of pads and tampons of all women every month. ..
Kinda stupid aren't you, That is the natural cycle not from human intervention, How old are you ? Like 12 or 13 years of age ?..You would not last long in a real debate, Even science supports our side of the debate, You all have junk science & retarded logic.. Science states, Sperm makes contact with an egg aprox 9 month latter child birth.
No, you're stupid if you can't rationalize your own logic.
I see you've resorted to weaseling out of this scenario like many other antis I've confronted have - you resort to an ad hominem and then try and claim it doesn't matter if abortion was not involved.
This scenario just seems to terrify/confound people like you. I love it.
Did see though in the study that the link between abortion & breast cancer is inconsistent, There is a need for more study from the way it looks, So neither of us can make any claim at this point then, Could we ?..
EXHAUSTIVE studies the breast cancer-abortion myth have proved there is no real link.
"A few retrospective (case-control) studies reported in the mid-1990s suggested that induced abortion was associated with an increased risk of breast cancer. However, these studies had important design limitations that could have affected the results. A key limitation was their reliance on self-reporting of medical history information by the study participants, which can introduce bias (cont)
(cont) Prospective studies, which are more rigorous in design and unaffected by such bias, have consistently shown no association between induced abortion and breast cancer risk. Moreover, in 2009, the Committee on Gynecologic Practice of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists concluded that “more rigorous recent studies demonstrate no causal relationship between induced abortion and a subsequent increase in breast cancer risk”.
(cont) But think about what you're saying. You believe these are lives from the moment of conception. But you're fine with what you consider lives being unknowingly flushed down toliets or tossed out in wastebaskets? That's awfully cold of you.
LOL, I love it when antis make the blanket claim that "science" support their side. So ridiculous.
"Science states, Sperm makes contact with an egg aprox 9 month latter child birth."
So how does that help your retarded argument? ROFL
@loner1878 But think about what you're saying. You believe these are lives from the moment of conception...
Duh, Yah, The moment it is started the life cycle had started, So show me where that is not so, Abortion is stopping a birth from happening, It is stopping something that was on its way to be... So how is that inaccurate ? Everyone knows that, Even the abortionist in this video says its killing, Its ending an life that was on its way to its first breath....
So why are you comfortable with those "lives" being unknowingly tossed out/flushed on sanitary pads and tampons? Answer the question.
All cells are alive. I'm sure you don't call people who exfoliate their skin murderers, or say we should hold a funeral for red blood cells every time someone cuts themselves accidentally.
Abstinence stops a birth from happening. Go call nuns and priests murderers for a change.
Its people like you who have no sense of logic. You want to give protoplasm more rights than a living, breathing conscious woman.
So married couples who don't want children should never have sex? Or people in long term-relationships? Get real.
"A proper, philosophically valid definition of man as 'a rational animal,' would not permit anyone to ascribe the status of 'person' to a few human cells."
Oh I wouldn't cite nature as some sort of role model. I'll remind you that in nature many species eat their young or just abandom them to starve.
And not to mention the fact that countless plants have abortive properties and are regularly used for such with little effect to the mother. Gotta love nature!
Loner, please seek help. You are full of rage, and are using this story to vent....perhaps it triggers a painful experience.you are obviously in a great deal of pain. The males who rape little girls need to pay for the crime. It wasn't your fault.
I'm so grateful that we still have people in this country willing to face the terrorists who murdered Dr. George Tiller and many other doctors in order to protect the health and well-being of women, especially the 9 and 10 year olds that were raped and put into this position.
He is a real American hero; risking his life to help others.
@labonneruerouge He is a real American hero; risking his life to help others.
So who will risk their life to help an unborn baby that did not ask to be put in that position ?....The unborn are lives also, So who will decide that your life is an Inconvenience & suck your brains out of your head & pull your body all to peaces ?..
I am pro choice, I think the unborn child should have a choice in the matter..
@Seekerr1 First of all, it's not a baby, it can't live outside of the womb and it can't feel pain. And secondly, no 9 year old child should have to go through being raped let alone forced to carry and deliver the product of that trauma and you are a disgusting excuse for a person if you believe otherwise.
I was saying that the pro abortionist ppl are like Hitler ... Sorry if there was any confusion.. Murder is murder, I do not think we should kill the doctors, But place some strict laws to prevent the willy nilly abortions.. I think it should only be done in extreme cases, Med casses ect, The rape & incest thing ? I still think the damage is done, Give birth give the child up for adoption, A 9 year old having a baby ? Her childhood is already gone..
Hilter and the Nazi party outlawed abortions when they came to power. Because, much like anti choicers of today, want control over others according to what they believe is right.
"Willy nilly abortions?" Fuck you. Who do you think you are to say what is justified and what isn't? Most women who have abortions are already mothers and prioritize the care of the children they have. You have no right to impose your little opinion on rape victims or any other woman.
When the Nazis came to power in 1933 one of the first acts Hitler did was to legalize abortion. By 1935 Germany with 65 million people was the place where over 500,000 abortions were being performed each year. Although Hitler and his government encourged Aryan women to produce a lot of children, he left the matter of abortion and all its facets in the hands of a decidely pro- abortion medical establishment...cont
Wrong. Abortions were OUTLAWED in Germany. Hilter did EXACTLY what the pro choice movement stands for - the right of women to make their own decisions regarding their reproduction. Forcing women to have abortions, forcing others to give birth, takes away the concept of CHOICE.
Comparing Nazisim to the abortion rights is the laziest, brainless, most disgusting argument anyone could resort to.
As a relative of multiple Auschwitz concentration camp victims, I say: FUCK. YOU.
"If one dose not like the truth they will create one of their own..."
Yup, just like you and your friend pugdody here have done. I love a flagrant hypocrite...makes it just so much easier to wipe the floor with them in a debate.
@loner1878 Even in the midst of Nazi propaganda aimed at increasing the Aryan population, scores of Aryan women still chose to abort their unborn children. The medical publication Deutsches Aerzleblatt reported the abortions in Germany each year reached a half-million...
You really need to research real history not pro abortion propaganda, So Who do you think you are to say what is justified and what isn't?... You think it ok to end a life cycle ? So go end yours, Its your choice.
Once again sweetie, what they propagated violated CHOICE. Just like people who think like you. Forcing women to act against their will. Who sounds more like a Nazi now?
You need to stop swallowing fake propaganda you find on anti choice websites. Grow a brain and maybe some basic reasoning skills.
I'm sure you must be terrefied by the death of trillions of sperm everyday made by selfish men. Those were living life cycles ended. OH THE HUMANITY!!!
i dont know what god u beleive in doc,but your seriously confused,perhaps its the god of the dollar bill,thou shalt not kill.old testament read it sometime,also try reading the bhaghavad gita,for every action there is an equall and opposite reaction,the law of karma,i wouldnt like to be in ur shoes when death is upon u.
@3rk4u Well to be fair the guy does have a lot of self riotousness. I mean he thinks that its up to him end another's life.
I think it is and always will be a disgusting thing when doctors end lives. From eugenics movement, to abortion, to the euthenics for patients deemed "terminally ill"
A life is a life is a life, and all have value! I do not want to be part of a society where some peoples lives lose their value when they are diagnosed "terminally ill" or have a birth defect in the womb
@Jamespot24 thats the problem these inferiority complexed nonces,often take god like decisions because they want to be god,or they were ignored and made to feel worthless as a child,they cling to this temporary life is af it will never end,and feel they are beyond redress.
@loner1878 the old testament states thou shalt not kill u and me were once a fetus,it doesnt mention abortion because society back then could not conceive that humanity would become so sinfull or barbaric as to kill there own seed,if i was killing children i to would convince myself,that there are no consequences for my actions,there is no escape from death and karma is very much judged on your actions in life.
@3rk4u "if i was killing children i to would convince myself, that there are no consequences for my actions"
-EXACTLY! If I got a girl pregnant and she aborted if I convinced myself that it wasn't a life then who cares. If I knew it was MY OWN CHILD I'd be DEVISTATED. PS Watch my favorite video on my profile :)
"Thou shall not murder" (the original word) applied in the old testament to ONLY fellow Israelities. Note by the mass slaughter of non-Israelities how that was applied (including the verse how pregnant women were ripped open and their unborn babies slashes with swords).
That is BS. Abortion methods have been recorded and used all over the world for OVER 4000 YEARS. Might want to educate yourself there buddy. Even the early Church held that abortion before quickening" was not a sin.
@loner1878 Even the early Church held that abortion before quickening" was not a sin..
You are in part correct, SOME early Church ppl did hold that view, Others disputed it. Abortion is the ending of a life cycle, You can say what ever you wish it still dose not change the fact that is what one is doing...Ending a life.
A life cycle that hasn't even begun yet and does not supercede the woman's life cycle.
50-70% of embryos spontaneously miscarry before a woman knows she is pregnant. These miscarriges appear as regular periods since they occur so early. Would you support mandatory tampon and pad inspections to ensure all lost pregnancies are detected, so funerals and death certificates can be mandated?
FYI, The ppl of the Bible had reasons for doing what they had done, Study whys of it on your own... I do not have time to be a teacher of history also.
Save the smug self-righteousness. I've studied it extensively - that is the man reason I left the faith. All it boils down to is justifying the rape and slaughter of people (infants included) because they didn't worship the egotistical and genocidal god of the bible.
Nothing anyone can do when dealing with an unreasonable person, Inside or outside of the faith, Your kind that we are glad do go away from the Church.. Bullheaded & more self-righteousness then you claim we are...
Duh, tampon inspection ? You know know when a person kills & when they don't, Infant or adult, Sad is you stand against what you call murder of adults, But do not care about an unborn infant... Spare us, Get yourself straight first.
Karma is wishful thinking crap. And who are you to declare abortion is a negative? I see it as saving the lives of women and preserving the life quality. Major good "karma" there.
And how can you be condemned for it in death if there was no biblical law against it?
This man saves women's lives. If you want him to stop doing what he does, that means you are evil and want women to die horrible deaths. Own it or change your mind but stop being pissed at the rest of us who have higher standards than you.
From reality, you dolt. You do realize that some women will die if they get pregnant, remain pregnant, or give birth, right? Medical complications are a biological REALITY and they KILL WOMEN. Without abortion to save these women, they will DIE. Do you understand the FACTS now, asswipe?
If you are so ignorant about the issue that you had to ask what I meant in the first place, then you certainly aren't informed enough to have a meaningful opinion about it.
If you think that the fact that everyone should have bodily integrity is a poor argument, it's either because you're evil, or ignorant. Take your pick.
Just because you don't understand why bodily integrity is relevant to the discussion doesn't mean that I'm not making a good case. It just means that you're stupid.
I'm not here to teach idiots. If you want to know the connection between bodily integrity and the reason that it means that abortion is a right, go look it up. lazy ass.
The youtube comment section is not the place to try to educate someone. You can't post links and they limit the number of words you can say. If you really want to understand the issue, look it up.
but you DON'T want to understand the issue, do you? You just want to remain an ignorant bigot. Fuck you, asshole.
I never agreed to do anything for you, much less have a particular kind of debate. I came here to make you look like the idiot you are and I succeeded. I win.
Just because you won't admit it doesn't mean you don't hate women. You hate women because you think they shouldn't be able to control their own bodies. As far as my language, well, if you don't like it, you don't have to read it, now do you fucknuts?
People who are against abortion hate women. It's not that fucking complicated dude.
I'm glad that you can laugh about being a bigot asswipe. At least one of us thinks that being evil is funny, eh?
It's almost sad that you think that me wanting to save women from death makes me cold and heartless. No asshole, being against abortion makes you cold and heartless. Christians are the fucking masters of doublespeak, gotta hand you fuckers that much.
That's not even possible dude. I am 100% right and you are 100% wrong. You'll have to live with that just like you live with the fact that you support child rape and pregnant women dying. It's reality. Face it.
hahahahaha. So pathetic man. Of course you commented on this video. You know that when you delete your comments, it still shows up and says "comment removed" right?
@TFYFWYA I'm not stupid, i just enjoy a good laugh, and supply a lot of shit to laugh at. Keep calling me stupid and evil, i don't really care. I'll just keep pushing your buttons so that you'll keep bitching at me, cause its fucking hilarious.
Wow, every time I think you have said the dumbest shit you could possibly say, you say something dumber and more pathetic.
I've been poking you and pissing you off for days now, yet you're either dishonest or stupid enough to now try to pretend that YOU have been pushing MY buttons. I have been in control 100% since you first interacted with me, and you keep giving me just what I want at every single turn. Chew on that for a while little boy.
@TFYFWYA who's more foolish, the fool, or the one who keeps interacting with him? The only thing you're in control of is your own miserable life. Why don't you take the advice you gave to the last guy and put us out of our misery.
"a lot of women are pro life. Does that mean they hate their own gender?"
Yes it does. Fucking hell you are even dumber than I realized at first.
I'm so much smarter than you could EVER be dude. Soo, soooo much. You're a christian, afterall. Actually, looks like catholic which is even worse. It means that not only do you support women dying, you also support little children being raped. You're in a rape and death cult, asshole.
Dear Lord. 9 yrs old. Poor baby. Tell me, is the male who raped her in jail, or did the Dr just happily take the money, perform the abortion, and hope she came back next year? Obviously, the fetal remains would be evidence.....I'm gonna say that he hoped she'll be back in a yr. That's how most abortion clinic operate. Don't care what happened to you, as long as they get the cash.
"What sick fucks allow ur 9 year old daughter to get raped?"
That's your big defense? They knowingly let it happen? You are ignorant and pathetic. Most rapes are done by a well known acquaintance. You are full of steaming shit.
"And if so do not kill whoever did it?"
I support that. But acting outside the law like that gets your ass arrested. And doesn't adress the pregnancy.
So you watch your sisters 24/7? Never let them out of the house? Yeah right, quit bullshitting.
LOl, you brainless hick-ass conservatives sure love making fools out of yourself. Makes my work easier.
"Im not going to let them go out and fuck whoever they want!"
That's not how rape works, shithead.
I see you like to accuse daughters and sisters of being sluts, but no reprimands for the horndog sons and brothers who can't keep their dicks in their pants. Hypocrisy, much? Dumb hick.
He is facilitating people to make their own choices. He knows that if he doesn't do it, many people will have to give birth after being raped, or while they are still kids themselves.
People who judge this guy just don't get reality. Move out of your biblical fantasy, and see the world for what it really is: FUBAR.
Why are nine and ten year-old girls getting pregnant in the first place? Has that thought ever crossed pro-choicers? You don't right a wrong by committing another wrong. I say we find out who made them pregnant and throw them in jail. Furthermore, are you arguing that it is a crime for a child to be pregnant but it is not a crime to kill a child? Be consistent.
Oh stop pterending you give shit about the actual women/girls. The only life your side cares about goes from conception until birth. After that you don't give two shits about 'life."
@loner1878 Can you back up your claim that pro-lifers don't care about the born as well as the unborn? Didn't think so. As for rape, do we live in a society where the rapist has rights all throughout the legal process but the unborn are executed without even a hearing?
Easy. Just loook at the politicans they vote for. They tend to be the most adamant abortion opponents, yet they are the same ones who want to cut welfare and food stamps and social programs most disadvanatged children would depend on. Not to mention I was raised "pro life" and saw so much hypocrisy firsthand. It was one of the reasons I became pro choice.
You don't have rights until you are born. A piece of protoplasm does not supercede a woman's right to bodily autonomy.
@loner1878 That just proves they are against socialism. It is fallacious to think that we hate poor people because we oppose socialist programs. Have you helped any poor people, or do you expect the government to take care of everything?
The guy that got her pregnant was probably old enough to be an parent and got the abortion done without providing the notary with any id but had her birth certificate and violating the laws with the clinic in order to get around parental consent or judicial bypass.
advocatefromGod 1 week ago
If the monsters that hurt these girls would get punished, then services like these wouldnt come about......also anti-choice people......how many unwanted kids have you adopted????
jgoetz123 2 weeks ago
I'm proud of what Dr. Boyd does and how much compassion and love he shows in caring for women and their health. I mourn the death and loss of Dr. Tiller.
amilynh4 2 weeks ago
@amilynh4 killing children means not having compassion and love but the opposite.
cattolico37 4 days ago
@amilynh4 Kill a baby for love,,,,,,,,, wow, your blind!
milliondollaroptions 4 days ago
Wow, so you would rather have 9 and 10 year old children giving birth (Which is proven unhealthy and dangerous since their bodies aren't developed enough to handle pregnancy) that were quite likely raped to conceive, then have abortion around, you guys don't really like kids much or fetuses :P
vampyres32 3 weeks ago
So this is what calls himself a doctor? He certainly covered up rape didnt he. Poor child was raped twice. Law enforcement is a joke. Children are being medically raped. The people have a right to bring these monsters to justice.
cocoinfinity1 3 weeks ago
24 weeks a child can LIVE.That to me is nothing more than murder.
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If someone holds a gun to your head, are you the fetus being murdered? It's their choice to kill you and not yours.
Abortion and murder are the same exact thing.
mjt19741 1 month ago
continued : i am against later term abortion. i would like it to be limited to no more than 12-14 weeks maximum. if a woman goes beyond that point then adoption is another option but pulling a fully formed large baby from the womb is not ok with me. i am sorry for those who have done this i do not mean to hurt anyone..just is my own feelings on the matter.
sweetkittytwine 1 month ago
wow. i can respect this man though. he is clear he believes it is killing. he holds some moral feelings about it. but he also feels that is is needed for the young girls and women that seek this procedure. i appreciate his honesty and his belief. i would rather someone be honest as he is than to lie and say " it's not a baby" yes it is but the decision is made anyway by the mother and he supports it. hard yes and maybe wrong..but he does what he does and so do the mothers.
sweetkittytwine 1 month ago
My question is,, where were the parents or guardians while the child was having sex? This is insane! This "doctor" is nothing more than a murderer. He ought to be ashamed of homself! What a disgrace he is!
luckylondon12 1 month ago
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@luckylondon12 YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT NIGGER BABY ABORTED NOT ‘BUY’ IT TO BECOME A PARASITE! You have obviously had minimal education having demonstrated you are a pathological liar - return to whoring with your inbred trash family, incest and birth defects. You are visibly unsophisticated and even an art schoolteacher would demonstrate some rudimentary breeding -- you have none! Sadly, every time one reads your retarded nonsense one thinks of the wretched film ‘deliverance’.
clarissapar 1 month ago
@luckylondon12 a 9 year old does not "have sex" you fucking pervert. this 9 year old was RAPED.
CowieMooCowxo87 1 month ago
@CowieMooCowxo87 Are you even listening to me? I was being sarcastic you idiot! I was pointing out that had the parents been watching their daughter as they should have been rather than being off doing their own thing, their child would not have gotten pregnant in the first place. Abortion is murder and needs to be stopped. As far as your profanity, I won't even dignify it with a response. You need to grow up. We are discussing serious issues, not the prom.
luckylondon12 2 weeks ago
@loner1878
Way to quote George Carlin... How about you come up with an original idea and share it with the class?
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loner1878 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
That is his opinion based on his own moral relativism. Not a scientific truth, even he would acknowledge that. Many other doctors will say otherwise.
Look in any biology textbook. The most it will say is that pregnancy begins at implantation.
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878 Look in any biology textbook. The most it will say is that pregnancy begins at implantation.
Dose not sperm making contact with the egg play in this at any time ? Just wondering, I see the point you are making here, But then still there is an egg & there is sperm making contact, Yes then the implantation ect... The whole cycle of life thing .
Seekerr1 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
Once again, that is all subjective. LAs far as science is really concerned, life began about a billion years ago and is a continuous process.
loner1878 1 month ago
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@loner1878 Once again, that is all subjective. LAs far as science is really concerned, life began about a billion years ago and is a continuous process.
No, no its not subjective, It is fact, It has yes been going on for millions of years & it was nice of you to point that out, The natural way of things is as such, Sperm egg life is born. Not unless something intervene with the process..
Keep up your argument, You are helping me allot here, Thanks :)
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loner1878 1 month ago
Why do we pay murderers ?
xPray2die2dayx 1 month ago
@xPray2die2dayx
Why do we still have such ignorant idiots in this day and age?
loner1878 1 month ago
What about the guy who got the 9year old preg ? Did the doctor report it ? Or did he just move on? 9 year olds do not get preg without sever sexual abuse.... I do not see to many comments about that, Is that ok with you pro choice ppl ? You know that a 9 year old child has been used as a sex toy by a perv ? Then the doctor helps him cover it up by aborting the child ?
Seekerr1 1 month ago 2
@Seekerr1
Look at you, spouting about a case you clearly have zero clue about but feel justified in pretending this doctor has done something wrong.
Maybe the guy was already arrested or police are on the lookout for him? This doctor is simply helping his patient. If he were "covering it up" why would he do the interview? You are a fucking disgusting liar.
Its obvious you don't give a shit about the raped 9 year old. If it were up to you, she'd be forced to give birth to her rapists spawn.
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878 abortion is MURDER any way you try to TWIST the facts; look at you--you don't know anymore about this particular case than anyone else; however, you hold yourself up as some authority on the subject; doctors are not supposed to KILL and this abortion will have an irreversible negative impact on this 9-yr-old girl for life; get yourself help
pugdogy 1 month ago
@pugdogy
You're the one twisting facts to claim abortion is murder. It is not so under the law and under many, many logical arguments.
You don't know anything either, yet feel entitled to make very accusatory claims. I only presented counter arguments to yours.
Doctors HELP their patients, the women. Not non-sentinent pre fetal cell clumps.
No, it won't. Abortion would spare the girl further trauma. Giving birth would have the irreversible negative impact for life. Get yourself help.
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878 Abortion is Murder; it is apparent that you are a person of non-stop babble who cruises youtube to keep people arguing with you in order to fill your life with meaning-LONER-it is simple-ABORTION IS MURDER; enough said on the subject, now go join a group or get a hobby or something, get yourself out around real live people, maybe they will be of help for your mental health issues
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@pugdogy
LOL, if I'm the person of "non-stop babble," what does that make you? You keep copy and pasting "Abortion is Murder" and endlessly repeat your nonsensical claims about abortion like you have no ability to process counterpoints. Why don't you get a hobby or join a group or something and find some real people? Why are you on youtube in the first place?
Strike two for flagrant hyprocrisy! XD
You're pretty funny, its so obvious just how clueless you are.
loner1878 1 month ago
@pugdogy
Ladyluliluluth 1 month ago
disgusting=
1) Abortion is murder
2) any 9 yr old who is getting an abortion should also be turned over to the authorities because someone is guilty of rape==poor lil girl :(
pugdogy 1 month ago
@pugdogy
1) Abortion is not murder
2) You want the 9 year old arrested? WTF is wrong with you?
You want a raped child forced to give birth. You're sick.
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878 -Abortion is murder. No I do not want a 9 yr old arrested I want whoever raped her arrested; and yes, as sad as the situation is the 9 yr old should give birth to her baby; the damage from probable multiple rapes from the perpetrator has already done the damage so lets not pile the guilt and horror of abortion on top of that heap of torment; You're sick to go around toting the concept of murder (abortion) as if it is nothing-must be a male-I can see why your name is loner
pugdogy 1 month ago
@pugdogy
No, its not murder. Look at you, imposing your ignorant beliefs on a raped child. For most women abortion brings relief. Do you have any idea what full term birth can do to the body of a child? Now THAT is horror.
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878 to begin with I commented on a video I did not impose anything on this poor lil girl; but look at you-all brainwashed by the media toting around and spouting off their propoganda about the wonders of abortion-Abortion IS MURDER-anyway you choose to twist the truth that fact will not change-do you have any idea what abortion and its consequences will do to the body and mind of a child? Now THAT is horror
pugdogy 1 month ago
@pugdogy
If it were up to you that girl would be forced to give birth, you made that very clear.
LOL, what bullshit. Abortion is still largely taboo in the media - except on Faux Noise - oh I mean Fox News, which you probably obsessively watch.
Abortion will do nothing negative to the mind or body, despite how much you wish it would. Do you know what full term birth and its consequences will do to the body and mind of a raped child? Now quit repeating yourself.
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878 Abortion will do nothing negative to the mind or body,
You may wish to do a little more research the subject a little more, I know ppl that had it done, The 9 yo girl that we are speaking of has a large reduced chance of getting preg again, have higher chance of breast cancer, Then issue with the girl dealing with the hormonal flux of being preg on sec not the next, That dose a number to mind & body..But then you would deny that beings you had an abortion yourself.
Seekerr1 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
I have done much research on that subject, that's why I know it has little negative effects. Your side propagated myths like "post abortion sydrome" which no medical establishment research supports. Giving birth is far more likely to cause injury or death than any abortion. The breast cancer myth has been long debunked by exhaustive studies by both the U.S. and UK panels. The American Cancer Association flat out states it is a myth.
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878 "post abortion sydrome" ?
Have you ever looked into it ? I know a woman for a fact that is going though it as we speak, I did not know she had one till some time latter, But noticed that she was having some real problems, Come to find out she aborted her child, She was in collage at the time, Thought it was the thing to do, So she could finish school ect, The depression was to much for her, She dropped out, Still battling.. Her story is not the only one, Cont..
Seekerr1 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
I've very much looked into it, and once AGAIN, that is why I know it is a myth. It is not recognized by the APA.
-A study published Fall of 2010 in the leading journal Social Science and Medicine found little support for the "abortion-as-trauma" framework pushed by anti-choice advocates.
-Associated Press (2011): According to a UK health agency's review of dozens of studies worldwide over 20 years, abortion does not increase a woman's chance of developing mental health problems.
loner1878 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
Depression is much more common after giving birth. You might know that if you did a little research rather than reply on anecdotal evidence.
Would a child be born if I had sex with a random person? Yes. If I don't have sex, the child won't be born. Why is that different from an abortion?
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878
Are all that have one effected the same way by it ? NO I can not say that, But there are many & its an real issue for them, Now from the National Abortion Federation they of course would say that its a myth, That was like Marlboro back in the day saying that there was no link to smoking & cancer.
I know you think its ok, That is your deal, Question is, Would a child be born at the end of 9 months of being preg ? answer is YES, TO end it would prevent that child from birth.
Seekerr1 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
(cont) But funny enough, some forms of breast cancer can be triggered by giving birth. I bet you don't warn pregnant women of that little tidbit.
I have never been pregnant, so no I've never had an abortion. I would have no problem saying if I had, there is nothing to be ashamed of.
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878 But funny enough, some forms of breast cancer can be triggered by giving birth. I bet you don't warn pregnant women of that little tidbit.
Early age at first full-term pregnancy: Women who have their first full-term pregnancy at an early age have a decreased risk of developing breast cancer later in life.
From the National Cancer Institute .. just looked it up :) A little homework & one finds the facts..
Fact is you end the life cycle you are ending an intended life.
Seekerr1 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
Please re-read my comment. I said SOME forms:
-The older a woman is when she has her first full-term pregnancy, the higher her risk of breast cancer.
-Women older than 30 when they give birth to their first child have a higher risk of breast cancer than women who have never given birth.
-Women who have recently given birth have a short-term increase in risk that declines after about 10 years.
loner1878 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
(cont)
Source: Kelsey JL, Gammon MD, John EM. Reproductive factors and breast cancer. Epidemiologic Reviews 1993; 15(1):36–47
Dickson RB, Pestell RG, Lippman ME. Cancer of the breast. In: DeVita VT Jr., Hellman S, Rosenberg SA, editors. Cancer: Principles and Practice of Oncology. Vol. 1 and 2. 7th ed. Philadelphia: Lippincott Williams and Wilkins, 2004.
Might want to do a little more than a simple google search next time ;) Put some real effort in.
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878
Did your mother abort you ? Is that why you think its ok to do it ?..
Seekerr1 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
My mother CHOSE to have me. I wouldn't have wanted her forced to have me, I respect my mother too much for that. If she had, so what? I wouldn't know the difference any more than if she had chosen to be abstient for life.
I'm really mystified why antis this that is a good counter argument. If I (or you) didn't exist, someone else would be here in our place.
loner1878 1 month ago
@pugdogy
LOL, I'm female, sweetie. So if I had the word "ninja" in my username you would believe I was really a ninja...? Wow, I hope you did better in other subjects besides critical thinking at school. And this is probably too advanced for you, but my username is a reference to a literary character (story set in the year 1878) who was a loner. What's wrong with being a loner anyway? I suppose you can't handle being by yourself for 5 minutes. Aw, poor baby.
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878 LOL, shoot, by your immature rantings I figured you were a frustrated teenaged boy, haha, you sure had me fooled; oh, and I figured your name pretty much fit your lifestyle-you know loner meaning alone; save the Aw poor baby for yourself-it is apparent that you need it--and Abortion is still MURDER no matter how you twist the facts or try to rant and change the subject; go be alone some more-LONER
pugdogy 1 month ago
@pugdogy
Ah, ad hominems. The sure sign of insecure shit debaters everywhere. Its not often to see someone desperately resort to them in the early stages of an argument, I guess I must have you intimidated already. This will be easier than I thought.
Did you miss my reply explaining that my username is a literary reference? Oh well, its pretty much a hallmark for people like you to block out inconvinent information.
So are you really a pug dog who can type or do you just look like one?
loner1878 1 month ago
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Let me (a man) kick a pregnant belly and the "fetus" aborts because of that, I will be charged with murder. Which is it? How can I be charged with murder when you say it's not a human being if a woman decides to abort it? Life begins at conception.
satguy11 2 months ago
These pro choice ppl need to view the video to the left that says..CHILDREN are DYING the WORLD is..... Abortion is KILLING children.
Seekerr1 2 months ago
@Seekerr1 you are absolutely correct=any society that agree with slaughtering innocent babies is no society at all; every female who gets an abortion needs to know exactly what her baby looks like and what this procedure does to them; a small fully formed baby is literally ripped to shreds within the womans uterus, sucked out and thrown in the garbage-welcome to abortion
pugdogy 1 month ago
@pugdogy First of all, it's not a baby, it can't live outside of the womb and it can't feel pain.
Its stuff like this that makes me sick, They even deny that the child is a human, Its on its way to being born, Life has started for them,To end it is stopping the life cycle, Its only logic, But then those that are hell bent on murder will justify it in any way possible, Hitler did it with the Jews, Abortionist are just repeating what he had done.I do not like calling them pro choice.Cont
Seekerr1 1 month ago
@pugdogy
LOL, then no society is a society. Abortion methods have been practiced all over the world, legally and illegally, for over 4000 years.
Contrary to your edited up and mislabeled gory pics, early trimester abortions look like nothing but cell clumps. An honest photo would do nothing to change a woman's mind.
Drop your drama.
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878
Logic states that once sperm makes contact with the egg the life cycle has started, To interfere at any time to end that cycle is ending a life..
You my dear friend need to rethink yourself & your logic, That is the problem with you ppl you neglect LOGIC & go for some form of random thought, Its like you all are trying to deny nature for what is truly going on.. You have sex, A girl gets preg, She gives birth in 9 months, If you do not want a child, Simply don have sex.
Seekerr1 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
That is soley an opinion based on your interpretation of logic.
But lets play around with your "logic" for a second. According to your logic, you should support the mandatory inspections of pads and tampons of all women every month. Because 50-75% of early embryos spontaneously abort before a woman even knows she is pregnant. They appear as regular or late periods.
So would you support these mandatory inspections so that death certificates and funerals can be mandated?
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878 you should support the mandatory inspections of pads and tampons of all women every month. ..
Kinda stupid aren't you, That is the natural cycle not from human intervention, How old are you ? Like 12 or 13 years of age ?..You would not last long in a real debate, Even science supports our side of the debate, You all have junk science & retarded logic.. Science states, Sperm makes contact with an egg aprox 9 month latter child birth.
Your is its not a life till?
Seekerr1 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
No, you're stupid if you can't rationalize your own logic.
I see you've resorted to weaseling out of this scenario like many other antis I've confronted have - you resort to an ad hominem and then try and claim it doesn't matter if abortion was not involved.
This scenario just seems to terrify/confound people like you. I love it.
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878
Did see though in the study that the link between abortion & breast cancer is inconsistent, There is a need for more study from the way it looks, So neither of us can make any claim at this point then, Could we ?..
Seekerr1 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
EXHAUSTIVE studies the breast cancer-abortion myth have proved there is no real link.
"A few retrospective (case-control) studies reported in the mid-1990s suggested that induced abortion was associated with an increased risk of breast cancer. However, these studies had important design limitations that could have affected the results. A key limitation was their reliance on self-reporting of medical history information by the study participants, which can introduce bias (cont)
loner1878 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
(cont) Prospective studies, which are more rigorous in design and unaffected by such bias, have consistently shown no association between induced abortion and breast cancer risk. Moreover, in 2009, the Committee on Gynecologic Practice of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists concluded that “more rigorous recent studies demonstrate no causal relationship between induced abortion and a subsequent increase in breast cancer risk”.
loner1878 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
(cont)
Major findings from these recent studies include the following:
-Women who have had an induced abortion have the same risk of breast cancer as other women.
-Women who have had a spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) have the same risk of breast cancer as other women.
-Cancers other than breast cancer also appear to be unrelated to a history of induced or spontaneous abortion.
loner1878 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
(cont) But think about what you're saying. You believe these are lives from the moment of conception. But you're fine with what you consider lives being unknowingly flushed down toliets or tossed out in wastebaskets? That's awfully cold of you.
LOL, I love it when antis make the blanket claim that "science" support their side. So ridiculous.
"Science states, Sperm makes contact with an egg aprox 9 month latter child birth."
So how does that help your retarded argument? ROFL
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878 But think about what you're saying. You believe these are lives from the moment of conception...
Duh, Yah, The moment it is started the life cycle had started, So show me where that is not so, Abortion is stopping a birth from happening, It is stopping something that was on its way to be... So how is that inaccurate ? Everyone knows that, Even the abortionist in this video says its killing, Its ending an life that was on its way to its first breath....
Seekerr1 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
So why are you comfortable with those "lives" being unknowingly tossed out/flushed on sanitary pads and tampons? Answer the question.
All cells are alive. I'm sure you don't call people who exfoliate their skin murderers, or say we should hold a funeral for red blood cells every time someone cuts themselves accidentally.
Abstinence stops a birth from happening. Go call nuns and priests murderers for a change.
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878
Science states the fact of it, To end the Preg is ending a life cycle.
Seekerr1 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
LOL, that is not "science." That is moral relativism. Science does not define when life begins.
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@Seekerr1
"You all have junk science & retarded logic.."
You have zero understanding of biology and logic you pull out of your ass. I'm very amused watching you try and make this argument.
loner1878 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
Its people like you who have no sense of logic. You want to give protoplasm more rights than a living, breathing conscious woman.
So married couples who don't want children should never have sex? Or people in long term-relationships? Get real.
"A proper, philosophically valid definition of man as 'a rational animal,' would not permit anyone to ascribe the status of 'person' to a few human cells."
-Ayn Rand
loner1878 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
Oh I wouldn't cite nature as some sort of role model. I'll remind you that in nature many species eat their young or just abandom them to starve.
And not to mention the fact that countless plants have abortive properties and are regularly used for such with little effect to the mother. Gotta love nature!
loner1878 1 month ago
Loner, please seek help. You are full of rage, and are using this story to vent....perhaps it triggers a painful experience.you are obviously in a great deal of pain. The males who rape little girls need to pay for the crime. It wasn't your fault.
miselaineous13 2 months ago
I use to get abortions then I took an arrow is the knee
TheLukepetty 2 months ago
I'm so grateful that we still have people in this country willing to face the terrorists who murdered Dr. George Tiller and many other doctors in order to protect the health and well-being of women, especially the 9 and 10 year olds that were raped and put into this position.
He is a real American hero; risking his life to help others.
labonneruerouge 2 months ago
@labonneruerouge He is a real American hero; risking his life to help others.
So who will risk their life to help an unborn baby that did not ask to be put in that position ?....The unborn are lives also, So who will decide that your life is an Inconvenience & suck your brains out of your head & pull your body all to peaces ?..
I am pro choice, I think the unborn child should have a choice in the matter..
Seekerr1 2 months ago
@Seekerr1 First of all, it's not a baby, it can't live outside of the womb and it can't feel pain. And secondly, no 9 year old child should have to go through being raped let alone forced to carry and deliver the product of that trauma and you are a disgusting excuse for a person if you believe otherwise.
labonneruerouge 2 months ago
@Seekerr1 I believe you meant pro life. pro choice is for abortion.
TheKittyWonder 1 month ago
@TheKittyWonder
I was saying that the pro abortionist ppl are like Hitler ... Sorry if there was any confusion.. Murder is murder, I do not think we should kill the doctors, But place some strict laws to prevent the willy nilly abortions.. I think it should only be done in extreme cases, Med casses ect, The rape & incest thing ? I still think the damage is done, Give birth give the child up for adoption, A 9 year old having a baby ? Her childhood is already gone..
Seekerr1 1 month ago
@Seekerr1 I cant disagree with you.
TheKittyWonder 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
Hilter and the Nazi party outlawed abortions when they came to power. Because, much like anti choicers of today, want control over others according to what they believe is right.
"Willy nilly abortions?" Fuck you. Who do you think you are to say what is justified and what isn't? Most women who have abortions are already mothers and prioritize the care of the children they have. You have no right to impose your little opinion on rape victims or any other woman.
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878 Hitler and Abortion
When the Nazis came to power in 1933 one of the first acts Hitler did was to legalize abortion. By 1935 Germany with 65 million people was the place where over 500,000 abortions were being performed each year. Although Hitler and his government encourged Aryan women to produce a lot of children, he left the matter of abortion and all its facets in the hands of a decidely pro- abortion medical establishment...cont
Seekerr1 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
Wrong. Abortions were OUTLAWED in Germany. Hilter did EXACTLY what the pro choice movement stands for - the right of women to make their own decisions regarding their reproduction. Forcing women to have abortions, forcing others to give birth, takes away the concept of CHOICE.
Comparing Nazisim to the abortion rights is the laziest, brainless, most disgusting argument anyone could resort to.
As a relative of multiple Auschwitz concentration camp victims, I say: FUCK. YOU.
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@Seekerr1
"If one dose not like the truth they will create one of their own..."
Yup, just like you and your friend pugdody here have done. I love a flagrant hypocrite...makes it just so much easier to wipe the floor with them in a debate.
loner1878 1 month ago
@loner1878 Even in the midst of Nazi propaganda aimed at increasing the Aryan population, scores of Aryan women still chose to abort their unborn children. The medical publication Deutsches Aerzleblatt reported the abortions in Germany each year reached a half-million...
You really need to research real history not pro abortion propaganda, So Who do you think you are to say what is justified and what isn't?... You think it ok to end a life cycle ? So go end yours, Its your choice.
Seekerr1 1 month ago
@Seekerr1
Once again sweetie, what they propagated violated CHOICE. Just like people who think like you. Forcing women to act against their will. Who sounds more like a Nazi now?
You need to stop swallowing fake propaganda you find on anti choice websites. Grow a brain and maybe some basic reasoning skills.
I'm sure you must be terrefied by the death of trillions of sperm everyday made by selfish men. Those were living life cycles ended. OH THE HUMANITY!!!
loner1878 1 month ago
37% If abortions are do to Rape
HowardSternn 2 months ago
i dont know what god u beleive in doc,but your seriously confused,perhaps its the god of the dollar bill,thou shalt not kill.old testament read it sometime,also try reading the bhaghavad gita,for every action there is an equall and opposite reaction,the law of karma,i wouldnt like to be in ur shoes when death is upon u.
3rk4u 2 months ago
@3rk4u Well to be fair the guy does have a lot of self riotousness. I mean he thinks that its up to him end another's life.
I think it is and always will be a disgusting thing when doctors end lives. From eugenics movement, to abortion, to the euthenics for patients deemed "terminally ill"
A life is a life is a life, and all have value! I do not want to be part of a society where some peoples lives lose their value when they are diagnosed "terminally ill" or have a birth defect in the womb
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24 thats the problem these inferiority complexed nonces,often take god like decisions because they want to be god,or they were ignored and made to feel worthless as a child,they cling to this temporary life is af it will never end,and feel they are beyond redress.
3rk4u 2 months ago
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Jamespot24 2 months ago
@3rk4u
Karma is nothing but wishful thinking. And the old testament says nothing against abortion, nor does it consider a fetus a living person.
loner1878 2 months ago
@loner1878 the old testament states thou shalt not kill u and me were once a fetus,it doesnt mention abortion because society back then could not conceive that humanity would become so sinfull or barbaric as to kill there own seed,if i was killing children i to would convince myself,that there are no consequences for my actions,there is no escape from death and karma is very much judged on your actions in life.
3rk4u 2 months ago
@3rk4u ps some of the bravest people to walk the earth often become the biggest cowards when faced with death.
3rk4u 2 months ago
@3rk4u
Why are you talking to yourself? Aw, I'm sure you wouldn't turn coward right away. Don't be so hard on yourself.
loner1878 2 months ago
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@3rk4u "if i was killing children i to would convince myself, that there are no consequences for my actions"
-EXACTLY! If I got a girl pregnant and she aborted if I convinced myself that it wasn't a life then who cares. If I knew it was MY OWN CHILD I'd be DEVISTATED. PS Watch my favorite video on my profile :)
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@3rk4u
"Thou shall not murder" (the original word) applied in the old testament to ONLY fellow Israelities. Note by the mass slaughter of non-Israelities how that was applied (including the verse how pregnant women were ripped open and their unborn babies slashes with swords).
That is BS. Abortion methods have been recorded and used all over the world for OVER 4000 YEARS. Might want to educate yourself there buddy. Even the early Church held that abortion before quickening" was not a sin.
loner1878 2 months ago
@loner1878 Even the early Church held that abortion before quickening" was not a sin..
You are in part correct, SOME early Church ppl did hold that view, Others disputed it. Abortion is the ending of a life cycle, You can say what ever you wish it still dose not change the fact that is what one is doing...Ending a life.
Seekerr1 2 months ago
@Seekerr1
A life cycle that hasn't even begun yet and does not supercede the woman's life cycle.
50-70% of embryos spontaneously miscarry before a woman knows she is pregnant. These miscarriges appear as regular periods since they occur so early. Would you support mandatory tampon and pad inspections to ensure all lost pregnancies are detected, so funerals and death certificates can be mandated?
loner1878 2 months ago
@loner1878
FYI, The ppl of the Bible had reasons for doing what they had done, Study whys of it on your own... I do not have time to be a teacher of history also.
Seekerr1 2 months ago
@Seekerr1
Save the smug self-righteousness. I've studied it extensively - that is the man reason I left the faith. All it boils down to is justifying the rape and slaughter of people (infants included) because they didn't worship the egotistical and genocidal god of the bible.
BTW, don't call the crap in the bible "history."
loner1878 2 months ago
@loner1878
Nothing anyone can do when dealing with an unreasonable person, Inside or outside of the faith, Your kind that we are glad do go away from the Church.. Bullheaded & more self-righteousness then you claim we are...
Duh, tampon inspection ? You know know when a person kills & when they don't, Infant or adult, Sad is you stand against what you call murder of adults, But do not care about an unborn infant... Spare us, Get yourself straight first.
Seekerr1 2 months ago
@Seekerr1
LOL, way to weasel out an an actual debate by behaving high and mighty. "Bullheaded and self righteous, you say? Well pot, meet kettle.
I hate to break it to you, but plenty of people in your church are pro choice. Most women who have abortions are religiously affiliated.
So you're fine with letting what you consider children being flushed down toilets or tossed in wastebaskets unrecognized. That's awfully cold of you.
loner1878 2 months ago
@3rk4u
Karma is wishful thinking crap. And who are you to declare abortion is a negative? I see it as saving the lives of women and preserving the life quality. Major good "karma" there.
And how can you be condemned for it in death if there was no biblical law against it?
loner1878 2 months ago
This man saves women's lives. If you want him to stop doing what he does, that means you are evil and want women to die horrible deaths. Own it or change your mind but stop being pissed at the rest of us who have higher standards than you.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
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davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
From reality, you dolt. You do realize that some women will die if they get pregnant, remain pregnant, or give birth, right? Medical complications are a biological REALITY and they KILL WOMEN. Without abortion to save these women, they will DIE. Do you understand the FACTS now, asswipe?
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
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davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
If you are so ignorant about the issue that you had to ask what I meant in the first place, then you certainly aren't informed enough to have a meaningful opinion about it.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
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davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
If you think that the fact that everyone should have bodily integrity is a poor argument, it's either because you're evil, or ignorant. Take your pick.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
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davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
Just because you don't understand why bodily integrity is relevant to the discussion doesn't mean that I'm not making a good case. It just means that you're stupid.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
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davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
I'm not here to teach idiots. If you want to know the connection between bodily integrity and the reason that it means that abortion is a right, go look it up. lazy ass.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
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davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
The youtube comment section is not the place to try to educate someone. You can't post links and they limit the number of words you can say. If you really want to understand the issue, look it up.
but you DON'T want to understand the issue, do you? You just want to remain an ignorant bigot. Fuck you, asshole.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
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davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
I never agreed to do anything for you, much less have a particular kind of debate. I came here to make you look like the idiot you are and I succeeded. I win.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
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davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
I win every single day that I wake up as a free person and realize that woman hating bigots like you can't control me. Suck it, assmunch.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
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davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
Just because you won't admit it doesn't mean you don't hate women. You hate women because you think they shouldn't be able to control their own bodies. As far as my language, well, if you don't like it, you don't have to read it, now do you fucknuts?
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
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davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
People who are against abortion hate women. It's not that fucking complicated dude.
I'm glad that you can laugh about being a bigot asswipe. At least one of us thinks that being evil is funny, eh?
It's almost sad that you think that me wanting to save women from death makes me cold and heartless. No asshole, being against abortion makes you cold and heartless. Christians are the fucking masters of doublespeak, gotta hand you fuckers that much.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
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TFYFWYA 2 months ago
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davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
That's not even possible dude. I am 100% right and you are 100% wrong. You'll have to live with that just like you live with the fact that you support child rape and pregnant women dying. It's reality. Face it.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
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davidakadb 2 months ago
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davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
Yes, pretend to laugh. I know you must be thoroughly humiliated so whatever helps you to get through without slitting your own wrists.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
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davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
Yes you are going to lie, you just did. And you will continue to lie, because that's what lying losers do.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
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davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
Right, I'm crazy and not worth your time, yet you keep talking to me over and over and over. haha. Fucking hell, you're so stupid man.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
@TFYFWYA Why are you bitching and writing all this as responses to me, i never commented on this video. You're right, you are crazy.
davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
hahahahaha
hahahahaha. So pathetic man. Of course you commented on this video. You know that when you delete your comments, it still shows up and says "comment removed" right?
Fuck you're stupid. Stupid AND evil.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
@TFYFWYA All i see is you being a crazy, psycho feminist.
davidakadb 2 months ago
@TFYFWYA I'm not stupid, i just enjoy a good laugh, and supply a lot of shit to laugh at. Keep calling me stupid and evil, i don't really care. I'll just keep pushing your buttons so that you'll keep bitching at me, cause its fucking hilarious.
davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
Wow, every time I think you have said the dumbest shit you could possibly say, you say something dumber and more pathetic.
I've been poking you and pissing you off for days now, yet you're either dishonest or stupid enough to now try to pretend that YOU have been pushing MY buttons. I have been in control 100% since you first interacted with me, and you keep giving me just what I want at every single turn. Chew on that for a while little boy.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
@TFYFWYA who's more foolish, the fool, or the one who keeps interacting with him? The only thing you're in control of is your own miserable life. Why don't you take the advice you gave to the last guy and put us out of our misery.
davidakadb 2 months ago
@davidakadb
It amuses me to make you dance, monkey.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
@TFYFWYA At least i'm not the one who made a fool of themselves on the last 3 and a half pages of comments. Dance to that.
davidakadb 2 months ago
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@davidakadb
"a lot of women are pro life. Does that mean they hate their own gender?"
Yes it does. Fucking hell you are even dumber than I realized at first.
I'm so much smarter than you could EVER be dude. Soo, soooo much. You're a christian, afterall. Actually, looks like catholic which is even worse. It means that not only do you support women dying, you also support little children being raped. You're in a rape and death cult, asshole.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
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davidakadb 2 months ago
Dear Lord. 9 yrs old. Poor baby. Tell me, is the male who raped her in jail, or did the Dr just happily take the money, perform the abortion, and hope she came back next year? Obviously, the fetal remains would be evidence.....I'm gonna say that he hoped she'll be back in a yr. That's how most abortion clinic operate. Don't care what happened to you, as long as they get the cash.
miselaineous13 2 months ago
What sick fucks wanted a nine year old rape victim forced to give birth?!?!
loner1878 2 months ago 13
@loner1878
The "pro life" death cult, that's who.
TFYFWYA 2 months ago
@loner1878 What sick fucks allow ur 9 year old daughter to get raped? And if so do not kill whoever did it?
Pussies thats who, and thats what all you Libtards pro abortionists are to me!
Im gonna watch my sisters, and when I have daughters Im gonna protect them too. Im not going to let them go out and fuck whoever they want!
You are a boy if you have a daughter or a sisters that are sluts. A man does not allow it! A man loves them and keeps them safe, a coward steps aside
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24
"What sick fucks allow ur 9 year old daughter to get raped?"
That's your big defense? They knowingly let it happen? You are ignorant and pathetic. Most rapes are done by a well known acquaintance. You are full of steaming shit.
"And if so do not kill whoever did it?"
I support that. But acting outside the law like that gets your ass arrested. And doesn't adress the pregnancy.
So you watch your sisters 24/7? Never let them out of the house? Yeah right, quit bullshitting.
loner1878 2 months ago
@Jamespot24
LOl, you brainless hick-ass conservatives sure love making fools out of yourself. Makes my work easier.
"Im not going to let them go out and fuck whoever they want!"
That's not how rape works, shithead.
I see you like to accuse daughters and sisters of being sluts, but no reprimands for the horndog sons and brothers who can't keep their dicks in their pants. Hypocrisy, much? Dumb hick.
loner1878 2 months ago
He is facilitating people to make their own choices. He knows that if he doesn't do it, many people will have to give birth after being raped, or while they are still kids themselves.
People who judge this guy just don't get reality. Move out of your biblical fantasy, and see the world for what it really is: FUBAR.
IndigoVagrant 3 months ago
@MrArpas123 Amen Brother, anything with DNA is a soul right??? If its gotta soul cant kill it or its murder am I right??
MrEuphoric1 3 months ago
Why are nine and ten year-old girls getting pregnant in the first place? Has that thought ever crossed pro-choicers? You don't right a wrong by committing another wrong. I say we find out who made them pregnant and throw them in jail. Furthermore, are you arguing that it is a crime for a child to be pregnant but it is not a crime to kill a child? Be consistent.
formerevolutionist 3 months ago
@formerevolutionist
Its called RAPE.
Oh stop pterending you give shit about the actual women/girls. The only life your side cares about goes from conception until birth. After that you don't give two shits about 'life."
loner1878 3 months ago
@loner1878 Can you back up your claim that pro-lifers don't care about the born as well as the unborn? Didn't think so. As for rape, do we live in a society where the rapist has rights all throughout the legal process but the unborn are executed without even a hearing?
formerevolutionist 3 months ago
@formerevolutionist
Easy. Just loook at the politicans they vote for. They tend to be the most adamant abortion opponents, yet they are the same ones who want to cut welfare and food stamps and social programs most disadvanatged children would depend on. Not to mention I was raised "pro life" and saw so much hypocrisy firsthand. It was one of the reasons I became pro choice.
You don't have rights until you are born. A piece of protoplasm does not supercede a woman's right to bodily autonomy.
loner1878 3 months ago 6
@loner1878 That just proves they are against socialism. It is fallacious to think that we hate poor people because we oppose socialist programs. Have you helped any poor people, or do you expect the government to take care of everything?
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