@ariaane being gay dosnt make you a pedophile you fucking retard your the biggest dumdass i have ever seen face it the cathoic church hid the pedophiles so the church would keep the youth of to day intrested in god and the new pope was apart of the Hitler youth so you let a ex-nazi be your voice between god and earth
There is no hell people, this douche bag is a con artist making million of dollars off your gullibility. Can't believe people believe anything that is in the bible it all has no proof! Should be moved into the fiction section of all libraries
Yeah man, just leke the declaration of Human rights has no proof either and is used by Imperialists to invade other countries. It should be so put to the trash.
I too have hope for the Church but this is not the Catholic view of homosexuality. To be a homosexual is not a sin according to the Church and it is demanded that homosexuals be cared for. Where is the Christian Charity in this video? Where is Christ in this message?
Thanks Michael, a very good videos!! With the spirit of Mirifica, we spread the truth of the One True Religion, Christianity inside the Catholic Church !! Dominus tecum !
I am a devoted Christian, but not a registered Catholic. Go to church every Sunday, pray for forgiveness every day, confess all sins, take Communion and thank God for all his blessings. Am I going to hell because I'm not a Catholc, according to The Church ? Please respond, I enjoy your videos. Thanks
@NavyHornet1 Just out of curiosity if they were to respond a yes would you convert to Catholicism? I'm a Roman Catholic in my teens exploring my faith and I do all the things that you've listed, I'm just not sure what the difference between being registered or not. Though I don't see what's holding you from converting to Catholicism apart from being unsure, I also can't give a point for why you shouldn't convert. I'm interested in their answer as well, though personally, convert if you feel it.
@NavyHornet1 I can answer this, speaking as a Catholic myself. The truth is if you are saved, it's out of a method that is unknown to the Church. Catholics don't say you won't ever be saved if you aren't Catholic, what we say is that there is a distinct method to salvation that is spelled out through faith, scripture, sacrament, and ritual, and if you want to be saved, this is the best way; any other way puts you at greater risk.
@MaxxTheMerciless I wouldn't say it's "unknown" per se. Whatever way anyone obtains salvation, it is ultimately through God's infinite mercy -- Jesus on the cross. Good points all around though, and I'm sure you'd agree that living a virtuous life in the Church makes this life now better as well.
@worldofdraculas That's a question of contention. We all know how merciful God is, but we also know how Just He is. The point I made is that He made His path to salvation known through His Son Jesus, and He spelled out how it works, and how His Church facilitates this. If there is another way to Salvation, this is unknown to us.
@NavyHornet1 Also, it should be emphasized that simply being Catholic is also no guarantee of salvation. You can call yourself Catholic all the live-long day, but unless you believe in it, practice it daily (yes, daily), base your life on the Catechism and the teachings of Christ, it's not going to get you into Heaven. As Michael repeatedly points out, there are lots of Catholics who aren't as faithful as they should be.
The percentage of child molestations in the church is much much lower than those in your everyday school setting. If you did some research maybe you'd find out the truth. :|
Wich by the way will not stop untill the church oficers (Such as the current pope, who had at least two lawsuits against him for merely moving a priest that had raped several children after knowing what he had done by a letter written by one of the abused children, instead of handing them to the police) stop protecting priests abusing children to avoid scandals. We aren't outraged at the rapes, we're outraged at the protection the rapists are given.
...sounds like the gates of hell prevailed against it for a while there... must not be the real church... This guy is such a liar and will have to answer for hundreds if not thousands of souls that he led straight into Hell...
Linking homosexuality to child abuse is a massive distortion. Evidence shows sexuality has little to do with abuse. Homosexuals aren't more likely to abuse children. Most abuse happens in families by step parents. Priests and nuns of all sexual attractions abused people- physically and emotionally if not sexually. This type of abuse happens everywhere -secular children's homes, schools, retirement homes. People are inclined to evil - one of the churches teachings - where have people been?
@BungleZippie I invite you to search for an essay written by Brian W. Clowes, Ph.D. entitled "Homesexuality and the Church Crisis." I myself have held the view that this crisis is nonspecific in terms of the perpetrators of these crimes. After reading this essay, I am not so sure.
What a complete & utter piece of shit! They molested little boys and still do. Most never even saw jail time and were shipped off to new perishes with "fresh meat". All who cover for these people are just as bad as the ones doing it.
The Catholic Church is reluctant to admit that its unbiblical policy of celibacy for clergy makes the priesthood an attractive for a sexual deviant struggling to conquer his demons.
@PInk77W1 the bishops of the catholic church are married. If u watch the video on Bishop Charles Chaput being installed as the bishop of philadelphia, he goes into great detail about it..
Homosexuality is not divant in itself. i believe it's possible that these priest who are homosexual feel guilty when they're young so they feel they must become priest to be chaste.
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What people do not seem to understand is that they can sit there and point the finger at pedophile priests and all the bad bishops...etc.that is while hey sit there and sin all the more themselves! Nobody is going to be able to blame anybody but themselves before Gods Throne. Aren't we supposed to pray for our enemies?, pray for those who despitefully use us? Sin is the problem, always has been, always will be.Yes, the bishops and Pope are at fault, they're sinners too. Lets all clean up ourself
@superstubes You get it right. Pedophilia and Homosexuality aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. They are both a license. One depravity can and does lead to others.
@superstubes Yes, it is. Like contraception and other sexual acts that cheapens it from a sacred act to one of pure pleasure. Performing homosexual acts is a depravity because it reduces you to the Animal, not the Human.
@superstubes Love comes in many forms, but there is also Responsibility to consider. At some point you have to rise above the Animal and strive to be Human, and that means placing Sex into something not to be entered into lightly. Homosexuality perverts the sexual act into something obscene.
Contraception does not protect anyone from disease. Abstinence does.
@superstubes See, Love in and of itself doesn't justify obscenity or perversion. Love comes in many forms, but it's what you do that matters. I'm sure someone that's gay may be in love with another man, but does that make sexual activity between them any less obscene? Not in the slightest. Similarly, I'm sure a father loves his son, but does that make sexual activity between them any less Incest, Homosexuality, and perverted? Not in the slightest.
@superstubes What does incest have to do with this topic? Everything. Stop trying to separate one perversion from another, because in the end they all have the same result, which is destruction, both earthly and eternally. Earthly, because it destroys families, undermines virtue in society, which in turn undermines the strength of a society.
You may think that what two men do in closed doors doesn't affect anyone, but you are so wrong. cont...
@superstubes Being gay IS a choice. It is very much so. That is one of the great myths of our modern age, to believe that people do not choose where they put their genitals. It is a outright lie because motive alone does not convict. How you feel does not matter nearly so much by what you do. This is the fundamental flaw of your entire premise. You convict people based squarely on what they feel, not by what they do. You have relegated these people to being animals.
You choose your behavior. You choose where you put your genitals. You are the result of the choices that you both make and don't make. You can choose good over evil. It's not an easy choice.
I might not appreciate it when someone calls me a pervert, but I might be more honest about it than others. I'd completely understand where he's coming from.
You don't see the destruction homosexuality is causing because you choose not to see it.
@superstubes "So in your eyes we are ALL bi-sexuals?? hilarious."
Technically, yes, but by default we're heterosexual - just look between your legs. But, ask a former convict who admits to practicing homosexuality if he's gay. Chances are he'll say he isn't. Same with Pornstars. Most pornstars do not consider themselves "gay" even though there is video evidence that proves they performed a homosexual act.
Potentially, but that's rather irrelevant to this discussion. But, I would put it to you - how were you raised? Were you raised by parents who didn't care one way or another? Were they practicing sodomy? Does being raised by those who willfully commit perversion give you an excuse for you do to so? If so, why?
@superstubes See, it's at this point that you fail completely to understand. In God's eyes, sin is sin, and it doesn't matter really why you do it. The Lord says that if you save your life for your own sake, then you will lose it, but if you lose your life for His sake, then you will gain it. What does that mean? That means you have to stop living for yourself and live for God, by His way, not yours, if you want eternal life. That means that come what may you will try...cont.
@superstubes cont...come what may you will try not to sin. The saints are said to rather be tortured in the most painful manner to death rather than commit a sin. When Christians were being martyred in the Roman arenas they were singing hymns, knowingly going to their deaths. God also knows that not everyone is so devout, and there are those who, for some reason, won't make that kind of sacrifice, which is why He forgives sin through Confession.
@superstubes Here's another question: Suppose a prostitute is forced to be one by a pimp, and she does what he (or she) says for fear of retribution. Has she committed evil? By being forced to have sex with strange men out of wedlock, is she committing a sin?
@superstubes Actually, she is committing a sin - she's just using an excuse. God doesn't see a distinction. Sin on behalf of others, even for the best of reasons, is still sin.
if we choose to fancy men why do some ,like myself,struggle with our sexuality?? I would of just chose women as thats alot easier socially in your teens. Some even commit suicide.
@superstubes You struggle with your sexuality because you choose to struggle with it. Many so-called homosexuals have proven to me that they can perform quite well as heterosexuals. I've seen ample proof. You struggle with it because you choose to make it an issue.
"perform quite well"? haha......plenty of vids on here say different ,these "ex-gays" are totally kidding themselves and they'll eventually break down and cause misery for their oppposite sex partners eventually. Could you live and enjoy sex with another man??? LOL
@superstubes How do you know? How do you know they didn't choose not to be gay? How do you know they could not perform heterosexually? The Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson managed to father four children before he decided to come out of the closet.
@superstubes See, I'd have less of a problem if you realized it is a decision you made. If you think it wasn't, if you give validation to a feeling you have rather than your own judgment, that's a major problem. In fact, you and others that think as you do are on very dangerous ground. Because if you admit that you have no free will in this matter, then you've got a mental disorder. Right now, society doesn't think too much of it thanks to homosexual propaganda, but what about tomorrow?
"dangerous ground"?? haha............the danger would be to have continued to kid myself i was hetero and get married then have to face it and break the heart of my wife like some gays do. At least i owned up to myself and began to accept myself and used my "free will" to do something positive about it and enjoy life. Repressing your true self is very damaging and you're anything but "free". But hey,you wont understand or except that.
@superstubes What I mean by dangerous ground is that right now pop culture is advancing the notion that homosexuality is immutable as you believe it to be. If that is the case, that you cannot control what you do, then that is textbook definition of insanity. Tomorrow, what pop culture deems acceptable may change, and the next thing you know homosexuals are treated as insane once again. Rather, if you own up to it as a personal choice, that possibility diminishes.
Plenty of vids on here from gay guys who have tried those programs to make you hetero and they all say they dont work,even a religious group who ran those types of programs revealed and admitted they dont work,if i find it i'll send it to you.
@superstubes I'm sure there are, but I've seen plenty of others that claim they do work. They work if YOU want them to work. They work if YOU want to control your life. There is absolutely no proof that it's congenital, genetic, or otherwise immutable, and as I mentioned before, you do not want it to be. It's like AA - it works if you want it to work.
@superstubes cont... See, you may not know this, but you are influential by both what you choose to do and what you choose not to do, and all kinds of people watch you, and what's more it defines your character, which is even more influential. People who don't know any better see the kind of things you tolerate in your life and think it's okay. Little by little, the look of the country changes because of the people whom we admire. Activists of all stripes understand that perfectly.
@superstubes Spiritually, I see people as people, no matter what they do. Sin knows no race, gender, creed or culture. I see people as human beings capable of making mindful choices, no matter how painful they might be, for objectives greater than themselves.
@superstubes cont....Now, let's examine your whole approach here. You just want to be seen as "tolerant," but being tolerant of immorality and evil is just plain stupid. If I tell people they ought to drink Drano because it'll cure cancer, that's evil because 1) I'm lying to them and 2) it'll kill them. That's not my truth, but THE Truth, and it is not relative. Following the Truth wherever it leads is intolerant of that which seeks otherwise.
@superstubes Yes. Prostitutes are exploiting others for money, who are mutually committing the sin of fornication (or Adultery as the case may be). It is a perversion of the sexual act for the purpose of pleasure and profit.
Prostitutes are sometimes drug addicts and are selling their bodies for their next fix and are in fear of their pimps who have got them on drugs - so stop judging folk.
Hilarious - you obviously know nothing about gay folk and why we are gay! My parents are loving and caring and were childhood sweethearts too! My brother and i were brought up the same way - he's hetero and i'm gay! So upbringing has nowt to do with sexuality.
@superstubes I know everything about gay people. I know all about them. Social environment plus other factors play a role. The fact is that you choose where you put your genitals.
you've proved to me you know nothing about gay folk - you think our parents commit sodomy and that we have a bad upbringing, you think we choose to fancy men which is bollocks.
Only someone who's lived that particular life knows !
Sovial environment has nothing todo with it. Some gays go to public schools Oxford and Cambridge ,Sir Ian Mckellen did and he's gay and a fabulous actor too.
I choose which guy i fancy not women as i've never fancied women.
@superstubes It's possible, isn't it? Perhaps your parents didn't encourage you to be gay, but perhaps they did. At some point, you accepted it and you decided to suck dick, didn't you? You decided. You made that decision.
And then, you want me to accept your decision as equally valid as a heterosexual one. In fact, you want to force me to accept it. Why should I?
At the very least, I might take you more seriously if you owned up to your decision as a human and not as an animal.
@superstubes Why are you gay and your brother isn't? Simple. You chose to be.
And I didn't contradict myself. I said that such factors play a role in the choice you made. For every psychological taboo to be broken there is always something that helps you do it. Touching feces with one's bare hands is disgusting, but if I had access to a means of washing my hands immediately thereafter I could get past the disgust. But in the end, it's my choice whether or not to do it.
@superstubes But that's completely anecdotal. How would I know that for certain? Just by your word? Given how dishonest the homosexual community is, and given how politicized it has become, your word isn't going to cut it, especially when you consider the testimony of homosexuals before the entire notion of "gay rights" first came into being.
Something pushed you over the edge. Something allowed you to cross that line. Something made it easier for you when you knew it was wrong.
"over the edge"?? haha...........you should be a comedian.....you make all so dramatic when really i just fancy guys ,always have always will. When a hetero starts feeling attraction for the opposite sex a gay person feels attraction for the same sex - nothing more nothing less.
If "they" could "perform heterosexuality" then maybe they were bi-sexuals.
@superstubes But how does anyone know that it's just a matter of simple attraction?
My point basically is that feelings by themselves do not matter. If a man has an attraction to other men, but never acts on it, is he homosexual? How would you know?
@superstubes Wrong. Feelings do not matter. Actions do. How can I prove such a man is gay in a court of law if he doesn't even admit it? If he did no verifiable act that can be proven, how is he gay?
@superstubes No, it doesn't. Motive alone doesn't prove anything. The act is important. Why must we alter our culture to suit this man's personal feelings? People are not "born gay," because there is no medical or scientific proof of that. People are capable of all kinds of acts for various reasons, and the fact that each human has a conscious Mind makes all of your arguments rather non-sensical. It's better to own up to your own personal responsibility in this matter. You will anyway.
@superstubes I'm more privy to people than you think, but be that as it may you haven't proven your case. People are perfectly capable of changing. Have you tried? If you felt you had to, could you? Of course you could if you chose to.
See, I'm actually paying you a compliment. I don't believe, as you do, that you're an animal, but a human being.
I've taken you through my sexuality from teens to today, i struggled with my sexuality in my teens ,tried to be hetero ,dated girls - had no sexual attraction ,always knew i fancied guys deep down - turned 21 and came to terms with it and started going to gay bars/clubs and my sexual life began and have never been happier..
Let me ask you a question. Suppose you're right, that homosexuality is somehow congenital, and that someday in the future it's possible to weed it out medically. Would you be in favor of allowing parents to have homosexuality removed from their children in the pre-natal or embryonic stage? If not, why?
@superstubes To the first, yes, I did. Mind you not every choice you make is necessarily a conscious one, but I would certainly weigh the situation. I wouldn't sleep with a man if I could help it, even if I were attracted to him, on the basis that I value my immortal soul more than whatever feelings I may have.
You think it would be quite sad, eh, but would you be in favor of such an option? Or even allowing such an option?
@superstubes Also, this is why your feelings about anything do not matter where it comes to actions. Feelings are your Mind's sensors, they alert you to conditions that aren't obvious to the intellect, but at no time do they force you into accepting one option or the next unless you allow them to. Feelings can change on a whim. One moment you're happy and content and the next you're concerned and worried, and the next you're sad and lonely.
@superstubes How do you know there won't be such an option? If a couple decides to terminate a pregnancy on the basis they believe their baby might be gay, might you understand why, being gay yourself?
"option"? Well they cant find why someones gay ,you even think its not a born thing so how will they detect something that isnt there?
No i wouldnt "understand" , i think with a better society now being gay is alot easier than it was for me in my teens,just because youre gay doesnt mean you cant have a great successful life. Look at Ricky Martin / Sir Ian Mckellen / Cliff Richard / Elton John/ George Michael/ Dolce & Gabbana / Ellen Degeneres / Jodie Foster / K D Lang .
@superstubes They're not successful because they're gay. They're successful because they have talents, and they happen to be in a distinct element in society that practically treasures homosexuality and ignores the damage it does. Homosexuality, or even a focus on sex in general, does not promote behaviors that lead to success, health, and happiness.
I disagree, i think sexuality can play a part in some people "talents"and "success"and "happiness" - male gays can be more artistic and have creative flair and use that in their careers.
"not to be trusted"?? oh my god you really have a dreadful view on gay folk ,you dont trust someone because they happen to be gay?? Unbelieveable. How shallow.
I know who i am thankyou !! You seem to be quite brainwashed by either religion or i bet your parents hated gays too.
@superstubes Now, that is a bigoted statement. You think people are more artistic based on their sexual preference?
I don't trust someone who believes they are not responsible for what they do and give excuses for it. You say you're British? Didn't the British invent the English language? Since you can control what you do, and then pass off your deviancy as something beyond your control, that would make you untrustworthy.
@superstubes But, you think that sexuality is an important component. It is not. Just because a lot of those people happen to be gay might also be a product of the permissive environment that you see. You don't see a lot of soldiers or construction workers or scientists or architects or others that also claim to be gay. In fact, more often than not that's a deliberate aberration.
Gay folk can make a difference in the world just like heteros look at all the gay doctors/paramedics/teachers/designers/nurses would you want to terminate them?
@superstubes Their potential occupation is irrelevant. The question was might you understand why a couple might terminate a pregnancy under that basis?
@superstubes Not if you're trying to prove that what you do is out of your control. You're trying to equate a feeling as a valid indicator of a condition, an excuse that lets you off the hook for your own actions. It's like saying it's okay to murder if your victim made you very angry, or it's okay to steal food if you're hungry. The law doesn't see it that way, and neither does God. He didn't say Thou shalt not steal, unless your feelings tell you otherwise." Why didn't He?
Now being gay is compared to murder and stealing ?? ha.
You arent going to stop gay people being gay ,so you might as well give up now. A hetero has feelings and acts on them and so do gays. If its wrong in the eyes of god then thats between god and me.
@superstubes When civilizations wane debauchery diminishes as the society begins to rebuild. Time is on my side.
Evil is evil in the eyes of God. He doesn't differentiate murder from homosexuality, so why should I? All it does is serve to undermine the values within a society that give it strength and keep it healthy.
"evil is evil"? haha.......you been watching too many Harry Potter films??
So if you need medical help - will you ask the doctor/paramedic his/her sexuality before they assist you and refuse help if they were gay when they try and make you "healthy"??
Did Jesus Christ go slagging off gays to the crowds that sat and listened to him??
You're the one that seems to "focus on sex" gay folk just want to get on with living.
@superstubes Jesus would say go and sin no more if such a person came forward willingly to him for aid. He would forgive the sin, and tell that person not to do so again. He also pointed out that those who merely say they repent, but don't, will not enter the kingdom of Heaven. He did not come preaching tolerance for sin, and indeed he pointed out that he will bring enmity between people over it.
@superstubes You tried to ask if having feelings for women makes me hetero. Only if you validate them. I'm heterosexual because I choose to be for a variety of reasons, but being hetero doesn't lock me into choosing any woman I find attractive. There are lots of attractive women I would never want to sleep with for a myriad of reasons. That's part of Choosing. And if I can choose which woman to sleep with, I can choose not to sleep with anyone, and so can you! My feelings do not matter.
cont.. those gay celebs have had a great career and life and so do gays who arent famous ,being gay is only a small part of what makes a person-its not everything you know.
I dont think you've chosen to be hetero - you just are. Yes you can choose which female you'd like to know better but thats where the choice ends. You havent chosen a guy because you never could and never will because you dont fancy guys. Yes we can choose to celibate but you'll always be hetero.
@superstubes I did choose. So did you. You just don't want to accept responsibility for yourself, which is why you are not to be trusted. A person who cannot accept responsibility for who they are, and what they do, is proven to be an animal, and to be treated no better as one.
@superstubes cont...And that's part of the point I'm making. You are trying to excuse your decision as out of your control.
Understand, you are not entitled to anything in this life. You are lucky to be living, and it is a gift from God, and He has given you a choice. You can either live for the world, for the material, for your own personal self and whatever you feel, or....not. You can choose to live for God, and what He wants, and the reward is eternal life. In essence, Life or Death
I'm not excusing anything i'm not ashamed of being gay and nor should anyone who is. I've not slept with a guy for a while but i'm still gay - i'll always fancy guys. I dont believe that god would of wanted me to continue to live a lie and break girls hearts continuously as they never lasted more than 2 weeks and live in mental torture - thats something you dont understand. He'd rather me enjoy my life and be true to myself.
@superstubes Yes, you are. You are looking for not only an excuse, but you want me to accept your decision as being normal and healthy. You ought to be ashamed. Shame is good for you. It lets you know what's wrong with you and your life. If you're not, you should be.
@superstubes No, you're not. You chose to be a deviant. You chose sin, and you don't want to admit it.
How would I cope? Simple. First I'd get that kid psychiatric and spiritual help. If he or she insisted on that lifestyle, I'd disown them from the family. I have a greater duty to the family and to society than to support such debauchery.
This is not about me. This is about homosexuality, and there is plenty wrong with you. You just don't know it because it's never been taught.
"psychiatric help"?? haha..............what a waste of money that would be and it would make that person think something is wrong with them when there isnt.
"disown" them???? What a shit parent you'd make - its unconditional love. Throw your own flesh and blood out on the street - disgraceful.
Plenty "wrong" with you the more i hear about you.
@superstubes Psychiatric help works, and has worked plenty of times. Of course, it works if the patient wants it to work.
You proved my point. You think love is unconditional, but it never is. God loves you, but He wants you to love Him back, and that requires a choice on your part that involves making a personal sacrifice for something greater than yourself. A family is bigger than any one individual, and if an individual chooses something that is evil, then he must be cast out.
@superstubes A lot of people don't know what sin is. Like you, they pervert it to mean whatever they want it to mean. I merely take God as His word, regardless of what I want. Casting someone out of a family can be a drastic, but necessary thing to do if someone is engaging in behavior that could bring disgrace, dishonor, and/or destruction to the family. Even God will cast you out on that basis, since He cannot allow Evil to exist in Heaven.
Muslims have honour killings ,thats what their religion has done to them. Killing your own son/daughter because they fall in love with the wrong person - DISGRACEFUL.
@superstubes It is, and that TOO is sinful. I didn't say murder someone on the basis of their sin. You love the sinner, but hate the sin. At the same time, though, there are consequences for your activities, and if you choose not to repent, if you choose to continue that lifestyle, then, as the Lord says, you must get away from them. You have to cast them out of the flock, for their behavior can lead others astray.
Bad behavior is infectious. Over time, especially among youth who are the most impressionable, they might come to see what you do as healthy, normal, and acceptable. That's why you have to weed such people out of your organization. It's why we separate criminals from society.
@superstubes I would if I had no other choice. If I can't help them, if they refuse to change their behavior, or at the very least abstain from it (thereby taking up their Cross), then I have to do what is right, and just. There is more at stake than just any one person, and I cannot allow that one person to harm the rest of the family.
@superstubes I've seen it. It's quaint. But what poor Mary didn't understand is that her son willingly chose evil. She can't blame herself for his actions, but she did, thanks in part to a society that can't condone intolerance of any kind thanks to subversive efforts meant to undermine society itself for a Brave New World that it seeks to impose, by force, if necessary. Such elements completely understand what I'm saying.
@superstubes No she didn't. And no, I cannot simply drive a child to suicide any more than she did for her son. Plus, I don't accept the entire premise of the show, which was obviously doctored to suit one particular point of view.
@superstubes No she didn't. And no, I cannot simply drive a child to suicide any more than she did for her son. Plus, I don't accept the entire premise of the show, which was obviously doctored to suit one particular point of view.
@superstubes But you've not proven, at all, that is otherwise. You've given nothing but anecdotes but you've not cited anything that proves, scientifically and medically, that it is anything but chosen. On the other hand, I've shown you why and how it is a chosen behavior. You just chose to ignore it.
@superstubes I'm sure I do. In this modern permissive world someone who speaks the truth would probably sicken you. Truth is not what you want it to be, but simply what it is. It is not relative. You cannot shape it to fit your lifestyle.
@superstubes Erased? No. But if they decided to make a change, to choose something better than homosexuality, I would let them back in, rather like the Prodigal Son. But I cannot do so if he won't repent. I would do the same for any child who willingly chose evil.
I hope you understand that what I mean by child I do not mean anyone under the age of 16.
@superstubes That's because you have been brainwashed yourself. You think what you do is totally fine. That's a product of an overly permissive society that values individual pleasure over morality.
@superstubes I'm sure you think so, but that's because you can't see the problem. That's because you think Truth is relative to you. You think your sexuality is so important that it trumps morality.
@superstubes And why do you have such "Pride Days," eh? Why do you need them? How does celebrating such behavior make it any better? It doesn't. You don't see Pride Days for heteros, do you? It's really for the same reason you saw May Day Parades in Red Square in Moscow during the Soviet Union, and why the Nazis had marches all over the place - to promote an idea - propaganda. You're so manipulated and you don't even realize it.
Of course you have to blame it on homosexuality. There is a HUGE different between homosexuality and pedophilia.
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@ariaane being gay dosnt make you a pedophile you fucking retard your the biggest dumdass i have ever seen face it the cathoic church hid the pedophiles so the church would keep the youth of to day intrested in god and the new pope was apart of the Hitler youth so you let a ex-nazi be your voice between god and earth
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Strateg68 1 week ago
There is no hell people, this douche bag is a con artist making million of dollars off your gullibility. Can't believe people believe anything that is in the bible it all has no proof! Should be moved into the fiction section of all libraries
BBayley89 2 weeks ago
@BBayley89 what it says in the bible, Christianity does not get it right. if you want to know what it says learn what you know and read it.
hoogys 1 week ago
@BBayley89
Yeah man, just leke the declaration of Human rights has no proof either and is used by Imperialists to invade other countries. It should be so put to the trash.
hhold 5 days ago
I too have hope for the Church but this is not the Catholic view of homosexuality. To be a homosexual is not a sin according to the Church and it is demanded that homosexuals be cared for. Where is the Christian Charity in this video? Where is Christ in this message?
LouHotop 2 weeks ago
Thanks Michael, a very good videos!! With the spirit of Mirifica, we spread the truth of the One True Religion, Christianity inside the Catholic Church !! Dominus tecum !
alprasetya 3 weeks ago
I am a devoted Christian, but not a registered Catholic. Go to church every Sunday, pray for forgiveness every day, confess all sins, take Communion and thank God for all his blessings. Am I going to hell because I'm not a Catholc, according to The Church ? Please respond, I enjoy your videos. Thanks
NavyHornet1 3 weeks ago
@NavyHornet1 Just out of curiosity if they were to respond a yes would you convert to Catholicism? I'm a Roman Catholic in my teens exploring my faith and I do all the things that you've listed, I'm just not sure what the difference between being registered or not. Though I don't see what's holding you from converting to Catholicism apart from being unsure, I also can't give a point for why you shouldn't convert. I'm interested in their answer as well, though personally, convert if you feel it.
hatakekaishi 3 weeks ago
@NavyHornet1 I can answer this, speaking as a Catholic myself. The truth is if you are saved, it's out of a method that is unknown to the Church. Catholics don't say you won't ever be saved if you aren't Catholic, what we say is that there is a distinct method to salvation that is spelled out through faith, scripture, sacrament, and ritual, and if you want to be saved, this is the best way; any other way puts you at greater risk.
MaxxTheMerciless 3 weeks ago
@MaxxTheMerciless I wouldn't say it's "unknown" per se. Whatever way anyone obtains salvation, it is ultimately through God's infinite mercy -- Jesus on the cross. Good points all around though, and I'm sure you'd agree that living a virtuous life in the Church makes this life now better as well.
worldofdraculas 2 weeks ago
@worldofdraculas That's a question of contention. We all know how merciful God is, but we also know how Just He is. The point I made is that He made His path to salvation known through His Son Jesus, and He spelled out how it works, and how His Church facilitates this. If there is another way to Salvation, this is unknown to us.
MaxxTheMerciless 2 weeks ago
@NavyHornet1 Also, it should be emphasized that simply being Catholic is also no guarantee of salvation. You can call yourself Catholic all the live-long day, but unless you believe in it, practice it daily (yes, daily), base your life on the Catechism and the teachings of Christ, it's not going to get you into Heaven. As Michael repeatedly points out, there are lots of Catholics who aren't as faithful as they should be.
MaxxTheMerciless 3 weeks ago
The percentage of child molestations in the church is much much lower than those in your everyday school setting. If you did some research maybe you'd find out the truth. :|
ThatRomanDude 3 weeks ago
I dont think i even have to say why this is so stupid -_-
also.....more likes than dislikes? wtf youtube?
PaperDragon3OO 1 month ago
"This isn't pedophilia, it's ephebopheilia."
Yeah, and I don't freebase. I abuse drugs that still have some impurities in them. So don't you dare call me a basehead.
(Tongue in cheek, of course- I don't really abuse drugs).
Question: If a priest molests pubescent minors rather than prepubescent minors, is it still ok to call him a pervert?
mmmcounts 1 month ago
Homosexuality is not linked to child abuse.
Wich by the way will not stop untill the church oficers (Such as the current pope, who had at least two lawsuits against him for merely moving a priest that had raped several children after knowing what he had done by a letter written by one of the abused children, instead of handing them to the police) stop protecting priests abusing children to avoid scandals. We aren't outraged at the rapes, we're outraged at the protection the rapists are given.
Sinclairelim 1 month ago 2
May God richly bless you, Mr. Voris!
Herdewelle 1 month ago
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...sounds like the gates of hell prevailed against it for a while there... must not be the real church... This guy is such a liar and will have to answer for hundreds if not thousands of souls that he led straight into Hell...
mdleidyjr 1 month ago
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mdleidyjr 1 month ago
I knew it all the way that it was only homosexual priest that did that!
fintyrock 1 month ago
Linking homosexuality to child abuse is a massive distortion. Evidence shows sexuality has little to do with abuse. Homosexuals aren't more likely to abuse children. Most abuse happens in families by step parents. Priests and nuns of all sexual attractions abused people- physically and emotionally if not sexually. This type of abuse happens everywhere -secular children's homes, schools, retirement homes. People are inclined to evil - one of the churches teachings - where have people been?
BungleZippie 1 month ago
@BungleZippie I invite you to search for an essay written by Brian W. Clowes, Ph.D. entitled "Homesexuality and the Church Crisis." I myself have held the view that this crisis is nonspecific in terms of the perpetrators of these crimes. After reading this essay, I am not so sure.
anilomd 1 month ago
What a complete & utter piece of shit! They molested little boys and still do. Most never even saw jail time and were shipped off to new perishes with "fresh meat". All who cover for these people are just as bad as the ones doing it.
scout3778 2 months ago
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Homosexuals and Child Molesters are two DIFFERENT things...
YepImBisexual 2 months ago
The Catholic Church is reluctant to admit that its unbiblical policy of celibacy for clergy makes the priesthood an attractive for a sexual deviant struggling to conquer his demons.
GlorifiedTruth 2 months ago
@GlorifiedTruth Jesus was celibate, Paul was celibate
PInk77W1 2 months ago
@PInk77W1 - Paul also assumed that bishops would be married, and therefore, presumably, priests.
GlorifiedTruth 2 months ago
@PInk77W1 the bishops of the catholic church are married. If u watch the video on Bishop Charles Chaput being installed as the bishop of philadelphia, he goes into great detail about it..
PInk77W1 2 months ago
ITS STILL SEX WITH A MINOR. Eitherway you look at it, it is still illegal in most states.
MandersVonStrange 2 months ago
Homosexuality is not divant in itself. i believe it's possible that these priest who are homosexual feel guilty when they're young so they feel they must become priest to be chaste.
CES888100 3 months ago
The Federal Reserve is the central bank of the United States. The federal government creates money by borrowing from the Federal Reserve by issuing bonds. The bonds must be paid back, with interest. Since this is how money is created, where is the money to pay the interest? It doesn't exist. The government must borrow again to pay the interest. It is a never ending cycle of debt. Every country has a central, no one can get out of debt. (The Money Masters) philipnute com
zsezse215 3 months ago
People like you just cannot accept that people are born different.
superstubes 4 months ago
funny isnt it when little boys are abused some folk are quick to blame homosexuals but when little girls are abused no-one blames heterosexuals.
superstubes 4 months ago
THE TITLE OF THIS VID SHOULD BE - CHILD MOLESTING PEDOPHILES IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
superstubes 4 months ago
What people do not seem to understand is that they can sit there and point the finger at pedophile priests and all the bad bishops...etc.that is while hey sit there and sin all the more themselves! Nobody is going to be able to blame anybody but themselves before Gods Throne. Aren't we supposed to pray for our enemies?, pray for those who despitefully use us? Sin is the problem, always has been, always will be.Yes, the bishops and Pope are at fault, they're sinners too. Lets all clean up ourself
bheadh 4 months ago
ITS PEDOPHILIA NOT HOMOSEXUALITY GET IT RIGHT!
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes You get it right. Pedophilia and Homosexuality aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. They are both a license. One depravity can and does lead to others.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
being gay isnt a "depravity" you caveman!!! Plenty of little girls are abused by men and women!
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Yes, it is. Like contraception and other sexual acts that cheapens it from a sacred act to one of pure pleasure. Performing homosexual acts is a depravity because it reduces you to the Animal, not the Human.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
Oh 2 guys in love can be "pure pleasure" or 2 females too!!
"contraception" protects folk from disease !!
If you dont like gay sex then i suggest you dont do it.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Love comes in many forms, but there is also Responsibility to consider. At some point you have to rise above the Animal and strive to be Human, and that means placing Sex into something not to be entered into lightly. Homosexuality perverts the sexual act into something obscene.
Contraception does not protect anyone from disease. Abstinence does.
Gay "sex" is not sex. It is mutual masturbation.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@superstubes See, Love in and of itself doesn't justify obscenity or perversion. Love comes in many forms, but it's what you do that matters. I'm sure someone that's gay may be in love with another man, but does that make sexual activity between them any less obscene? Not in the slightest. Similarly, I'm sure a father loves his son, but does that make sexual activity between them any less Incest, Homosexuality, and perverted? Not in the slightest.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
"obscene"?? why you so interested what 2 men do??
What does incest have to do with this topic?????
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes What does incest have to do with this topic? Everything. Stop trying to separate one perversion from another, because in the end they all have the same result, which is destruction, both earthly and eternally. Earthly, because it destroys families, undermines virtue in society, which in turn undermines the strength of a society.
You may think that what two men do in closed doors doesn't affect anyone, but you are so wrong. cont...
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
oh dear me, gay folk have relationships with other consenting adults - just like heteros.
Gays are part of "families"actually.. Being gay isnt a "choice.
It IS ok to be gay ,there have been gays for 1000's of yrs - its not a new trend!!!
Who not "what you choose to love". So gay folk shouldnt have "pleasure" ??
You sound rather patronising , we all know theres more to life than sex and love.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Being gay IS a choice. It is very much so. That is one of the great myths of our modern age, to believe that people do not choose where they put their genitals. It is a outright lie because motive alone does not convict. How you feel does not matter nearly so much by what you do. This is the fundamental flaw of your entire premise. You convict people based squarely on what they feel, not by what they do. You have relegated these people to being animals.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
Well i didnt choose my sexuality - fact. So youre totally wrong there. I take it your hetero the way you talk about gays, so could you fancy guys???
People who are hetero couldnt choose to fancy the same sex and vice versa!
I choose which guy i fancy - theres the choice.
No-ones destroying the family - nothing has changed ,some folk are gay thats all.
If you were gay you wouldnt appreciate being called a pervert.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Yes, you did.
You choose your behavior. You choose where you put your genitals. You are the result of the choices that you both make and don't make. You can choose good over evil. It's not an easy choice.
I might not appreciate it when someone calls me a pervert, but I might be more honest about it than others. I'd completely understand where he's coming from.
You don't see the destruction homosexuality is causing because you choose not to see it.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
"good over evil"?? hahaha............
were you brought up by highly religious parents????
So in your eyes we are ALL bi-sexuals?? hilarious.
There is no "destruction" you fool , its all in your bigoted little mind.
Could you fancy guys????
superstubes 4 months ago
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@superstubes "So in your eyes we are ALL bi-sexuals?? hilarious."
Technically, yes, but by default we're heterosexual - just look between your legs. But, ask a former convict who admits to practicing homosexuality if he's gay. Chances are he'll say he isn't. Same with Pornstars. Most pornstars do not consider themselves "gay" even though there is video evidence that proves they performed a homosexual act.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@superstubes "Could you fancy guys????"
Potentially, but that's rather irrelevant to this discussion. But, I would put it to you - how were you raised? Were you raised by parents who didn't care one way or another? Were they practicing sodomy? Does being raised by those who willfully commit perversion give you an excuse for you do to so? If so, why?
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
Do u fancy guys isnt irrelevant ,you say we all choose whether we fancy men or women so surely you could get turned on by men in bed !!
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Actually, it is irrelevant. How I feel does not matter compared to what I do.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
the truth is you'd never fancy men as much as you tried,like it was with women for me.
"excuse"?? haha.......being drugged up and raped , I doubt if God thought like you.
God help your kids if 1 turns out gay!!
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes See, it's at this point that you fail completely to understand. In God's eyes, sin is sin, and it doesn't matter really why you do it. The Lord says that if you save your life for your own sake, then you will lose it, but if you lose your life for His sake, then you will gain it. What does that mean? That means you have to stop living for yourself and live for God, by His way, not yours, if you want eternal life. That means that come what may you will try...cont.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
Maybe in the next life you'll come back as a gay man and you'll see what i'm talking about,untill then we'll agree to disagree.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Revenge fantasy, eh? Interesting.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@superstubes cont...come what may you will try not to sin. The saints are said to rather be tortured in the most painful manner to death rather than commit a sin. When Christians were being martyred in the Roman arenas they were singing hymns, knowingly going to their deaths. God also knows that not everyone is so devout, and there are those who, for some reason, won't make that kind of sacrifice, which is why He forgives sin through Confession.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@superstubes Here's another question: Suppose a prostitute is forced to be one by a pimp, and she does what he (or she) says for fear of retribution. Has she committed evil? By being forced to have sex with strange men out of wedlock, is she committing a sin?
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
No ,she isnt committing any sin ,she's a victim of shitty men!!
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Actually, she is committing a sin - she's just using an excuse. God doesn't see a distinction. Sin on behalf of others, even for the best of reasons, is still sin.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
if we choose to fancy men why do some ,like myself,struggle with our sexuality?? I would of just chose women as thats alot easier socially in your teens. Some even commit suicide.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes You struggle with your sexuality because you choose to struggle with it. Many so-called homosexuals have proven to me that they can perform quite well as heterosexuals. I've seen ample proof. You struggle with it because you choose to make it an issue.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
"perform quite well"? haha......plenty of vids on here say different ,these "ex-gays" are totally kidding themselves and they'll eventually break down and cause misery for their oppposite sex partners eventually. Could you live and enjoy sex with another man??? LOL
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes How do you know? How do you know they didn't choose not to be gay? How do you know they could not perform heterosexually? The Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson managed to father four children before he decided to come out of the closet.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@superstubes See, I'd have less of a problem if you realized it is a decision you made. If you think it wasn't, if you give validation to a feeling you have rather than your own judgment, that's a major problem. In fact, you and others that think as you do are on very dangerous ground. Because if you admit that you have no free will in this matter, then you've got a mental disorder. Right now, society doesn't think too much of it thanks to homosexual propaganda, but what about tomorrow?
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
"dangerous ground"?? haha............the danger would be to have continued to kid myself i was hetero and get married then have to face it and break the heart of my wife like some gays do. At least i owned up to myself and began to accept myself and used my "free will" to do something positive about it and enjoy life. Repressing your true self is very damaging and you're anything but "free". But hey,you wont understand or except that.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes What I mean by dangerous ground is that right now pop culture is advancing the notion that homosexuality is immutable as you believe it to be. If that is the case, that you cannot control what you do, then that is textbook definition of insanity. Tomorrow, what pop culture deems acceptable may change, and the next thing you know homosexuals are treated as insane once again. Rather, if you own up to it as a personal choice, that possibility diminishes.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
Plenty of vids on here from gay guys who have tried those programs to make you hetero and they all say they dont work,even a religious group who ran those types of programs revealed and admitted they dont work,if i find it i'll send it to you.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes I'm sure there are, but I've seen plenty of others that claim they do work. They work if YOU want them to work. They work if YOU want to control your life. There is absolutely no proof that it's congenital, genetic, or otherwise immutable, and as I mentioned before, you do not want it to be. It's like AA - it works if you want it to work.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
that video is -" Former ex-gay leaders apologize". Check it out.
superstubes 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
calling gay folk a "perversion"?? how insulting.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Truth is truth, and sometimes it hurts. If it insults you, don't suck dick.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@superstubes cont... See, you may not know this, but you are influential by both what you choose to do and what you choose not to do, and all kinds of people watch you, and what's more it defines your character, which is even more influential. People who don't know any better see the kind of things you tolerate in your life and think it's okay. Little by little, the look of the country changes because of the people whom we admire. Activists of all stripes understand that perfectly.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
Better that folk see gay folk as equal to heteros ,lets try to end prejudice.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Spiritually, I see people as people, no matter what they do. Sin knows no race, gender, creed or culture. I see people as human beings capable of making mindful choices, no matter how painful they might be, for objectives greater than themselves.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@superstubes cont....Now, let's examine your whole approach here. You just want to be seen as "tolerant," but being tolerant of immorality and evil is just plain stupid. If I tell people they ought to drink Drano because it'll cure cancer, that's evil because 1) I'm lying to them and 2) it'll kill them. That's not my truth, but THE Truth, and it is not relative. Following the Truth wherever it leads is intolerant of that which seeks otherwise.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
you might like to be whipped by prostitutes in Nazi uniform ,i wouldnt judge you for it!
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Why not? You should! I wouldn't hang out with such people.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
So prostitutes are evil too?? haha...
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Yes. Prostitutes are exploiting others for money, who are mutually committing the sin of fornication (or Adultery as the case may be). It is a perversion of the sexual act for the purpose of pleasure and profit.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
Prostitutes are sometimes drug addicts and are selling their bodies for their next fix and are in fear of their pimps who have got them on drugs - so stop judging folk.
Hilarious - you obviously know nothing about gay folk and why we are gay! My parents are loving and caring and were childhood sweethearts too! My brother and i were brought up the same way - he's hetero and i'm gay! So upbringing has nowt to do with sexuality.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes I know everything about gay people. I know all about them. Social environment plus other factors play a role. The fact is that you choose where you put your genitals.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
you've proved to me you know nothing about gay folk - you think our parents commit sodomy and that we have a bad upbringing, you think we choose to fancy men which is bollocks.
Only someone who's lived that particular life knows !
Sovial environment has nothing todo with it. Some gays go to public schools Oxford and Cambridge ,Sir Ian Mckellen did and he's gay and a fabulous actor too.
I choose which guy i fancy not women as i've never fancied women.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes It's possible, isn't it? Perhaps your parents didn't encourage you to be gay, but perhaps they did. At some point, you accepted it and you decided to suck dick, didn't you? You decided. You made that decision.
And then, you want me to accept your decision as equally valid as a heterosexual one. In fact, you want to force me to accept it. Why should I?
At the very least, I might take you more seriously if you owned up to your decision as a human and not as an animal.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
Social environment?? haha..............hilarious.. so why am i gay and my brother isnt???
Anyway your contradicting yourself ,you said we choose our sexuality so why would environment/parents have any say in our sexuality??
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Why are you gay and your brother isn't? Simple. You chose to be.
And I didn't contradict myself. I said that such factors play a role in the choice you made. For every psychological taboo to be broken there is always something that helps you do it. Touching feces with one's bare hands is disgusting, but if I had access to a means of washing my hands immediately thereafter I could get past the disgust. But in the end, it's my choice whether or not to do it.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
Falling on deaf ears isnt it??? You dont want to listen to someone that knows more than you on this topic do you??
My parents never mentioned the word gay to me or encouraged it - so your incorect there!
Why should you listen to someone else and learn about it?? You stay stuck in your little world thinking you know it all sunshine!!
Again you dont understand the struggle of accepting ones sexuality and dont want to.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes But that's completely anecdotal. How would I know that for certain? Just by your word? Given how dishonest the homosexual community is, and given how politicized it has become, your word isn't going to cut it, especially when you consider the testimony of homosexuals before the entire notion of "gay rights" first came into being.
Something pushed you over the edge. Something allowed you to cross that line. Something made it easier for you when you knew it was wrong.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
"over the edge"?? haha...........you should be a comedian.....you make all so dramatic when really i just fancy guys ,always have always will. When a hetero starts feeling attraction for the opposite sex a gay person feels attraction for the same sex - nothing more nothing less.
If "they" could "perform heterosexuality" then maybe they were bi-sexuals.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes But how does anyone know that it's just a matter of simple attraction?
My point basically is that feelings by themselves do not matter. If a man has an attraction to other men, but never acts on it, is he homosexual? How would you know?
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
Of course he's gay.
You have "feelings" for women only yes??? Whether you act on those feelings or not your still hetero.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Wrong. Feelings do not matter. Actions do. How can I prove such a man is gay in a court of law if he doesn't even admit it? If he did no verifiable act that can be proven, how is he gay?
Do you see the problem with your entire premise?
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
No i dont, why do you need to prove he's gay?? He knows himself thats what matters.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes No, it doesn't. Motive alone doesn't prove anything. The act is important. Why must we alter our culture to suit this man's personal feelings? People are not "born gay," because there is no medical or scientific proof of that. People are capable of all kinds of acts for various reasons, and the fact that each human has a conscious Mind makes all of your arguments rather non-sensical. It's better to own up to your own personal responsibility in this matter. You will anyway.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
i've told you everything about my personal sexuality ,i didnt have to . You arent open to peoples lives so thats that.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes I'm more privy to people than you think, but be that as it may you haven't proven your case. People are perfectly capable of changing. Have you tried? If you felt you had to, could you? Of course you could if you chose to.
See, I'm actually paying you a compliment. I don't believe, as you do, that you're an animal, but a human being.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
I've taken you through my sexuality from teens to today, i struggled with my sexuality in my teens ,tried to be hetero ,dated girls - had no sexual attraction ,always knew i fancied guys deep down - turned 21 and came to terms with it and started going to gay bars/clubs and my sexual life began and have never been happier..
superstubes 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
sexuality is like eye colour ,can you change your eye colour??
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Wrong. Sexuality is not immutable.
Let me ask you a question. Suppose you're right, that homosexuality is somehow congenital, and that someday in the future it's possible to weed it out medically. Would you be in favor of allowing parents to have homosexuality removed from their children in the pre-natal or embryonic stage? If not, why?
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
"wrong"??haha...... could you sleep with men and enjoy it immensely???
I bet you couldnt.
That would be upto the parents to be .
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes To your first question, depends. Depends on a lot of factors. Making choices involves weighing considerations.
Now to the next point, would you be in favor of allowing parents to abort children showing signs of homosexuality?
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
You havent really answered my 1st question - yes or no.??
I think it would be quite sad if parents end the life of their baby for that reason.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes To the first, yes, I did. Mind you not every choice you make is necessarily a conscious one, but I would certainly weigh the situation. I wouldn't sleep with a man if I could help it, even if I were attracted to him, on the basis that I value my immortal soul more than whatever feelings I may have.
You think it would be quite sad, eh, but would you be in favor of such an option? Or even allowing such an option?
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@superstubes Also, this is why your feelings about anything do not matter where it comes to actions. Feelings are your Mind's sensors, they alert you to conditions that aren't obvious to the intellect, but at no time do they force you into accepting one option or the next unless you allow them to. Feelings can change on a whim. One moment you're happy and content and the next you're concerned and worried, and the next you're sad and lonely.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
A babys physical health is the most important. There will never be such an option in my opinion.
If youre feeling attracted to someone you might approach that person and act on it.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes How do you know there won't be such an option? If a couple decides to terminate a pregnancy on the basis they believe their baby might be gay, might you understand why, being gay yourself?
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
"option"? Well they cant find why someones gay ,you even think its not a born thing so how will they detect something that isnt there?
No i wouldnt "understand" , i think with a better society now being gay is alot easier than it was for me in my teens,just because youre gay doesnt mean you cant have a great successful life. Look at Ricky Martin / Sir Ian Mckellen / Cliff Richard / Elton John/ George Michael/ Dolce & Gabbana / Ellen Degeneres / Jodie Foster / K D Lang .
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes They're not successful because they're gay. They're successful because they have talents, and they happen to be in a distinct element in society that practically treasures homosexuality and ignores the damage it does. Homosexuality, or even a focus on sex in general, does not promote behaviors that lead to success, health, and happiness.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
I disagree, i think sexuality can play a part in some people "talents"and "success"and "happiness" - male gays can be more artistic and have creative flair and use that in their careers.
"not to be trusted"?? oh my god you really have a dreadful view on gay folk ,you dont trust someone because they happen to be gay?? Unbelieveable. How shallow.
I know who i am thankyou !! You seem to be quite brainwashed by either religion or i bet your parents hated gays too.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Now, that is a bigoted statement. You think people are more artistic based on their sexual preference?
I don't trust someone who believes they are not responsible for what they do and give excuses for it. You say you're British? Didn't the British invent the English language? Since you can control what you do, and then pass off your deviancy as something beyond your control, that would make you untrustworthy.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
You said talents have nothing todo with sexuality - i disagree. Theres lots of gay florists/choreographers/artists / fashion designers.
Slagging someone off completely for just being gay is Hate.
I didnt say heteros arent artistic.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes But, you think that sexuality is an important component. It is not. Just because a lot of those people happen to be gay might also be a product of the permissive environment that you see. You don't see a lot of soldiers or construction workers or scientists or architects or others that also claim to be gay. In fact, more often than not that's a deliberate aberration.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
Gay folk can make a difference in the world just like heteros look at all the gay doctors/paramedics/teachers/designers/nurses would you want to terminate them?
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Their potential occupation is irrelevant. The question was might you understand why a couple might terminate a pregnancy under that basis?
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
Of course feelings matter, if we didnt have feelings we'd be robots.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Not if you're trying to prove that what you do is out of your control. You're trying to equate a feeling as a valid indicator of a condition, an excuse that lets you off the hook for your own actions. It's like saying it's okay to murder if your victim made you very angry, or it's okay to steal food if you're hungry. The law doesn't see it that way, and neither does God. He didn't say Thou shalt not steal, unless your feelings tell you otherwise." Why didn't He?
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
Now being gay is compared to murder and stealing ?? ha.
You arent going to stop gay people being gay ,so you might as well give up now. A hetero has feelings and acts on them and so do gays. If its wrong in the eyes of god then thats between god and me.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes When civilizations wane debauchery diminishes as the society begins to rebuild. Time is on my side.
Evil is evil in the eyes of God. He doesn't differentiate murder from homosexuality, so why should I? All it does is serve to undermine the values within a society that give it strength and keep it healthy.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
"evil is evil"? haha.......you been watching too many Harry Potter films??
So if you need medical help - will you ask the doctor/paramedic his/her sexuality before they assist you and refuse help if they were gay when they try and make you "healthy"??
Did Jesus Christ go slagging off gays to the crowds that sat and listened to him??
You're the one that seems to "focus on sex" gay folk just want to get on with living.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Jesus would say go and sin no more if such a person came forward willingly to him for aid. He would forgive the sin, and tell that person not to do so again. He also pointed out that those who merely say they repent, but don't, will not enter the kingdom of Heaven. He did not come preaching tolerance for sin, and indeed he pointed out that he will bring enmity between people over it.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@superstubes You tried to ask if having feelings for women makes me hetero. Only if you validate them. I'm heterosexual because I choose to be for a variety of reasons, but being hetero doesn't lock me into choosing any woman I find attractive. There are lots of attractive women I would never want to sleep with for a myriad of reasons. That's part of Choosing. And if I can choose which woman to sleep with, I can choose not to sleep with anyone, and so can you! My feelings do not matter.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
cont.. those gay celebs have had a great career and life and so do gays who arent famous ,being gay is only a small part of what makes a person-its not everything you know.
I dont think you've chosen to be hetero - you just are. Yes you can choose which female you'd like to know better but thats where the choice ends. You havent chosen a guy because you never could and never will because you dont fancy guys. Yes we can choose to celibate but you'll always be hetero.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes I did choose. So did you. You just don't want to accept responsibility for yourself, which is why you are not to be trusted. A person who cannot accept responsibility for who they are, and what they do, is proven to be an animal, and to be treated no better as one.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@superstubes cont...And that's part of the point I'm making. You are trying to excuse your decision as out of your control.
Understand, you are not entitled to anything in this life. You are lucky to be living, and it is a gift from God, and He has given you a choice. You can either live for the world, for the material, for your own personal self and whatever you feel, or....not. You can choose to live for God, and what He wants, and the reward is eternal life. In essence, Life or Death
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
I'm not excusing anything i'm not ashamed of being gay and nor should anyone who is. I've not slept with a guy for a while but i'm still gay - i'll always fancy guys. I dont believe that god would of wanted me to continue to live a lie and break girls hearts continuously as they never lasted more than 2 weeks and live in mental torture - thats something you dont understand. He'd rather me enjoy my life and be true to myself.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Yes, you are. You are looking for not only an excuse, but you want me to accept your decision as being normal and healthy. You ought to be ashamed. Shame is good for you. It lets you know what's wrong with you and your life. If you're not, you should be.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
My "decision" was made before i was born as sexuality is defined in the womb. I am "normal" thankyou.
I wonder how you'd cope and deal with your son/daughter being gay ???
Getting personal now i see - Cheeky sod!! Nothing "wrong"with me sunshine!!!! Look at yourself before you go throwing stones.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes No, you're not. You chose to be a deviant. You chose sin, and you don't want to admit it.
How would I cope? Simple. First I'd get that kid psychiatric and spiritual help. If he or she insisted on that lifestyle, I'd disown them from the family. I have a greater duty to the family and to society than to support such debauchery.
This is not about me. This is about homosexuality, and there is plenty wrong with you. You just don't know it because it's never been taught.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
"psychiatric help"?? haha..............what a waste of money that would be and it would make that person think something is wrong with them when there isnt.
"disown" them???? What a shit parent you'd make - its unconditional love. Throw your own flesh and blood out on the street - disgraceful.
Plenty "wrong" with you the more i hear about you.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Psychiatric help works, and has worked plenty of times. Of course, it works if the patient wants it to work.
You proved my point. You think love is unconditional, but it never is. God loves you, but He wants you to love Him back, and that requires a choice on your part that involves making a personal sacrifice for something greater than yourself. A family is bigger than any one individual, and if an individual chooses something that is evil, then he must be cast out.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
No psychiatrist would try or recommend they change their sexuality.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Plenty do. And have succeeded.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
I do love God , "evil"?? haha......my god you are so brainwashed .
You sound like Fred Phelps. To throw your own son/daughter out is sinful in many folks eyes.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes A lot of people don't know what sin is. Like you, they pervert it to mean whatever they want it to mean. I merely take God as His word, regardless of what I want. Casting someone out of a family can be a drastic, but necessary thing to do if someone is engaging in behavior that could bring disgrace, dishonor, and/or destruction to the family. Even God will cast you out on that basis, since He cannot allow Evil to exist in Heaven.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
Muslims have honour killings ,thats what their religion has done to them. Killing your own son/daughter because they fall in love with the wrong person - DISGRACEFUL.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes It is, and that TOO is sinful. I didn't say murder someone on the basis of their sin. You love the sinner, but hate the sin. At the same time, though, there are consequences for your activities, and if you choose not to repent, if you choose to continue that lifestyle, then, as the Lord says, you must get away from them. You have to cast them out of the flock, for their behavior can lead others astray.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
"others astray"? haha......you cant catch gayness.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes No, but I can weed it out.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@superstubes No, but I can weed it out.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
Bad behavior is infectious. Over time, especially among youth who are the most impressionable, they might come to see what you do as healthy, normal, and acceptable. That's why you have to weed such people out of your organization. It's why we separate criminals from society.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
No-one can be gay if they arent naturally gay.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Wrong, they can. You choose to be gay. It is an activity.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
there you go again with "choose"!! been exhausted .
i know what you were trying to say about football idiot - you are just unbelieveable comparing a football situation with your own son/daughter.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes
what with you lot chucking out your sons and daughters and muslims killing them - you can keep it.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Then you are lost. I tried to help, and I did my part.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
i never asked for your "help" and nor would i want it.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes But you need it. You need Someone's help. I pray that someday you'll get that help.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
you'd throw out your children and think i need help..............LOL I prayer you'll see the light one day.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes I would if I had no other choice. If I can't help them, if they refuse to change their behavior, or at the very least abstain from it (thereby taking up their Cross), then I have to do what is right, and just. There is more at stake than just any one person, and I cannot allow that one person to harm the rest of the family.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
"right"??? nothing right about that.
Ever seen "Prayers for Bobby" with Sigourney Weaver??? I recommend you watch it.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes I've seen it. It's quaint. But what poor Mary didn't understand is that her son willingly chose evil. She can't blame herself for his actions, but she did, thanks in part to a society that can't condone intolerance of any kind thanks to subversive efforts meant to undermine society itself for a Brave New World that it seeks to impose, by force, if necessary. Such elements completely understand what I'm saying.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
Mary totally understood what she'd done to her son. Thats what you could do to yours.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes No she didn't. And no, I cannot simply drive a child to suicide any more than she did for her son. Plus, I don't accept the entire premise of the show, which was obviously doctored to suit one particular point of view.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
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@superstubes No she didn't. And no, I cannot simply drive a child to suicide any more than she did for her son. Plus, I don't accept the entire premise of the show, which was obviously doctored to suit one particular point of view.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@superstubes But you've not proven, at all, that is otherwise. You've given nothing but anecdotes but you've not cited anything that proves, scientifically and medically, that it is anything but chosen. On the other hand, I've shown you why and how it is a chosen behavior. You just chose to ignore it.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
you sicken me.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes I'm sure I do. In this modern permissive world someone who speaks the truth would probably sicken you. Truth is not what you want it to be, but simply what it is. It is not relative. You cannot shape it to fit your lifestyle.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
so if your kids dont fit your lifestyle they'll be erased.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes Erased? No. But if they decided to make a change, to choose something better than homosexuality, I would let them back in, rather like the Prodigal Son. But I cannot do so if he won't repent. I would do the same for any child who willingly chose evil.
I hope you understand that what I mean by child I do not mean anyone under the age of 16.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
thats the sickest thing i've heard today.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes That's because you have been brainwashed yourself. You think what you do is totally fine. That's a product of an overly permissive society that values individual pleasure over morality.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
i think me fancying fellas is alot better than you throwing out your teenage son.
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes I'm sure you think so, but that's because you can't see the problem. That's because you think Truth is relative to you. You think your sexuality is so important that it trumps morality.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago
@MaxxTheMerciless
i used to think my sexuality was a "problem" but not anymore. Thats why you hear the word "Pride Days".
superstubes 4 months ago
@superstubes And why do you have such "Pride Days," eh? Why do you need them? How does celebrating such behavior make it any better? It doesn't. You don't see Pride Days for heteros, do you? It's really for the same reason you saw May Day Parades in Red Square in Moscow during the Soviet Union, and why the Nazis had marches all over the place - to promote an idea - propaganda. You're so manipulated and you don't even realize it.
MaxxTheMerciless 4 months ago