Christian science is always cutting edge and correct.
Like the fact that ring around saturn is actually jesus foreskin (its true google it) the pope supported this idea & it was the head of his library in the vatican that came up with this brilliant scientific theory.
Christians were still trying to spread the idea that the earth was flat in the beginning of the 1900´s google "flat earth map" and you will see a map of a flat earth with an angel standing in all 4 corners,like in revelation
The creepy and unsettling thing about Intelligent Design proponents is that one them has learnt an 11-letter word; maybe that makes them some kind of "scientist".
@pillowbugg You said "Those who deny the theory of gravity and those who accept the theory of gravity."
I have actually debated creationists who stated "GRAVITY IS A LAW NOT A THEORY!!" in upper case letters. This only serves to exhibit their ignorance of a scientific theory's validity and science in general.
I have watched nearly every dvd from Lee Stobel to Stephen Hawkins. My top ten must watch dvd's to educate about religion...The Bibles Buried Secrets: Israelite Origins, Judgement Day Intelligent Design on Trial, Testament 1 John Romer, National Geographics: Was Darwin Wrong, Noahs Ark: The true story, History Channels Ape to Man, National Geographics: The Walking Whale, Egyptian Secrets of the Afterlife, The Bible Unearthed and Zeitgeist. Also, Wikipedia Ron Wyatt and the Discovery Institute.
When humans fell we changed instantly from being immortal to being mortal, and the entire universe changed instantaneously too. When Jesus comes back the change will be just as dramatic,2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Things that die will not be able to withstand the Glory of God.
Evolution,and creation beliefs divide.That should be a clear indication that the mastermind behind this division is Not God at all for God does not divide. This is also drawing humans attention away from what really matters, and that is Christ in us to love, and do good to whoever no matter what being forgiving,and being respectful, and judging yourself,and not another. The non human animals can teach us a lot by not even thinking about evolution or creation being naked, and not caring at all.
Any intelligent made products, I called it intellen, has a history of having an opposite and equal, some are not equal due to the principle of importance, as discovered by intelligent design. The old Intelligent Design as supported by Behe had collapsed but not the new ID.
Wow. The painting was removed AND destroyed. Imagine how it would been the sides switched and a child had their painting of an angelical figure giving birth to humans...not just removed from the school...but also destroyed by scientists? Its better to believe that we were put here by the divine...but wait. So were the monkeys and everything else...right? I mean God did create the WHOLE world right? If it had been flowers we evolved from...there wouldnt be a problem? Didnt fit belief..burn it.
It is important to understand that their is a BIG, BIG difference between science and religious belief systems. Science is a tool used to solve problems. Religious belief systems are things you believe in. You don't believe in science. Instead, you use it to solve problems just like your hammer. You don't believe in your hammer, you use it to solve problems. Science and religious belief systems are completely unrelated and unfit for comparison.
The giraffe's laryngeal nerve runs all the way down its neck, circles the aorta, and goes back up the neck to the larynx. Why? Because the bones than make the larynx were once part of a gill structure in fish ancestors. At the time the nerve took a fairly direct route, but now the bones have a different purpose, and the nerve takes a 15' detour. If gradual evolution didn't do it, then "ID" must stand for "Incompetent Design".
Aren't you a little old to be talking to an imaginary friend anyway?
what US needs is mandatory curriculum that covers basic logic and reasoning with practical excercises so the idiots would not get to have education to climb to higher layers of society and not polute it. Go make farmlands in africa morons and atleast be useful to humanity.
Creationists say that they just want a 'fair' playing field...yet what they actually request is 'jumping to the front of the line' by avoiding the scrutiny of the peer review process. All other scientific avenues of thought must be subjected to examination by fellow scientists prior to it being generally accepted. Intelligent Design requests to completely bypass this procedure and have their material taught without any kind of outside analysis.
I love how every idiot toting the young-earth story has been marked as spam. Some people, out of, to be frank, ignorant stubbornness, unrelentingly place their arbitrarily assigned theology over what can be seen and observed (yes, evolution has been observed) out of faith of fear of being let down which can be frustrating, but nuts like TrunkMonkey3000 never fail to make me smile.
I still don't get why these people want judgement day and want the world to end so some guy with a beard and a robe can return to "save" them. I think people should enjoy their lives and go on with lives for their own reasons instead of having a book think for them.
American's wanna hold on to their imaginary friend rather than science and reason? Fine, they'll just keep falling behind everyone else in the scientific world, in general knowledge, education and consequently economy...
@TheToxicRadio when I see these videos it is a bit hard to believe sometimes...but I did overgeneralize too much in my comment, sorry! Let's both meet makeme708 on may 21st 2011 to celebrate thinking ;)
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You have to be an idiot to believe that everything evolved, it's clear that man and everything in the universe was created by an ALMIGHTY EVERLASTING ETERNAL GOD WHO IS THE ONE AND ONLY CREATOR.
MAY 21 2011 IS THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.
It's really horrible to me how far man has fallen and how so much smarter man thinks they are than GOD. So what these evolutionist are saying is that Darwin is their god? because that's what they are saying. GOD will return in a few months.
Do you own a home? If so, I will buy it off you for $20. The conditions are that I will give you the $20 upon the signing of the deal, however I do not receive the house until May 22. You win! You get the cash now when you can use it plus get to keep your home until the proposed date of the rapture. I only get to take ownership until the date after the proposed rapture when you will no longer need it. This is a test of your faith in this date!
@makeme708 You still get to live in it until May 22 plus you get $20. You can't lose! You don't need the house after judgment day which is when I take possession of it.
@makeme708 Well makeme come on! Since you so sincerely believe in the day of judgment ot be May 21 2011 then stand by your beliefs. Djarm will let you live in your house until May21 2011 after which you wont need it since you will be raptured.
However I think I can see where this belief is really heading.
@makeme708 You said "That's just idiotic, i still have to live in my home until MAY 21 2011 JUDGMENTDAY."
How ironic that you said 'That's just idiotic". Those three words can describe the remainder of your statement.
I am nearly omniscient myself and I have psychically ascertained that the world will still be here on May 22, 2011. Please message me on that date and tell me how wrong you were to have ever believed in religion.
@djarm67 Hey! I actually did the same thing to one of the tenant at the hotel where I used to work. So come May 22, I will be getting my 100 bucks! I have to say that you got a way better deal than I did though. ^_^
@Orical001 You do realize creationist /=/ intelligent design right? Intelligent design is when science and Christianity can co-exist in the most logical manner.
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A lot of people don't realize that Evolution isn't scientific at all. Science is something that can be validated and proven to be true through the scientific method. Can you prove evolution through the scientific method? Or is it just some "theory". Thanks for your time :P
You just prove you have zero understanding of what a scientific theory is.
A theory is a framework that fits the known facts (observations) and delivers testable predictions. For a theory to fail, all you need is 1 incorrect prediction. That's also why we give creedence to The Theory of Relativity. Almost 100 years down the line, it still produces correct predictions, just as evolution does. just as all the scientific theories do. THAT'S why we trust them. They actually work
@TrunkMonkey3000 theory is the highest place a hypothesis or idea can reach, and evolution has been proven, evolution is change over time and it has been observed after several new species of finch evolved in the Galapagos, the theory of evolution explains the diversity of life, not the fact that life changes over time which is a fact
@TrunkMonkey3000 - by using the phrase "just a theory" you show that you don't understand what a scientific theory is. It's not the same as say, a conspiracy theory or other conjectural ideas that may be called a theory. It must follow a very specific set of criteria, it must be preceded by hypothesis and observation, and must make novel predictions which can be tested. One observation can prove a theory wrong, and evolution has stood up to over a century of observation.
Yeah you can.Guess what you can't prove?That some creator who is invisible and intangible exists.
Oh and also evolution is a done deal...slam dunk...proven on DNA levels.You only have the option of intelligent designer who "designed" evolution(which would be kinda stupid in my opinion) or that evolution happened by itself (like it can happen by itself).
PS The scientific world couldn't care less if you are offended or not by the apes thing.
@TrunkMonkey3000 Yeah... How do u explain vestigal structures then? Surely an almighty being wouldn't put extra crap in his creations. And the transitional species? Natural selection makes logical sense. Any mutation that benefits a species helps it survive and pass the gene one, and if it harms the species, it dies off before it can pass the gene on.
@cooljoelguy Vestigal structures are so-called "useless" organs. I don`t think they are useless at all. I can rotate my ears and move them all over the place, and it helps when I`m getting a hair cut. The appendix is used for breaking down heavy foliage and roughages. If you started eating a lot of this type of food, I have no doubt that your appendix would be woken back up and start to work heavily. So to say a structure is vestigal or useless is not something I would personally say.
@TrunkMonkey3000 Vestigal doesnt mean useless. It means it´s original purpose is "outdated" and that it may or may not be used for something else than it´s original purpose.
@TrunkMonkey3000 "I have no doubt that your appendix would be woken back up and start to work heavily"... this is testable. Do vegetarians have a larger appendix than others? No. So you having "no doubt" is in violation of the natural laws, observation, and rational, sensible inquiry.
I love when the scientificly illiterate try to school the world in a subject that they have no competency it. Hey, trunkmonkey, do you let the pool guy do your heart surgery too?
I guess the problem, in the end, is that some (even most maybe?) people feel so damn superior and above the natural world that the thought that we are somehow part of it makes them shudder...what a sad, ego-centrical, self-loving view. besides educational problems, this also creates a lot of environmental problems these days. I really hope people wake up some day and start embracing our ancestry and evolution, which is an amazing, wonderful story!
Wow...this is not too different than how fundamentallist muslims have acted, but at least there was not a holy jihad where people were hacked to death with machettes in the street like in Nigeria.
Judge Jones concluded that Alan Bonsell lied under oath, now swearing on a bible doesn't mean that much to me, but you would think it would mean something to Bonsell!
Evolutionary science is the only area of science that has adopted Methodological Naturalism
" Methodological naturalism maintains that scientific investigation must adhere to empirical study and independent verification as a process for properly developing and evaluating natural explanations for observable phenomena.[27] Methodological naturalism, therefore, rejects supernatural explanations, arguments from authority and biased observational studies."
"Intelligent Design is not anywhere a scientific concept"
In fact Geologist must determine if rock formations are natural or designed and NASA scientists also look for signs of I.D. and do NOT try to FORCE naturalism into every explanation
We have NO EXAMPLES ANYWHERE to show digital codes (in DNA) can arise from any source OTHER THAN an intelligence. these men prove the scripture "mans wisdom (I.Q.) is foolishness with God"
What is unscientific is the way ToE restricts its self to methodological naturalism to explain EVERY observable phenomenon. when other areas of science DO NOT restrict themselves like this
There is nothing scientific about a theory that starts out with a metaphysical assumption that God can not be proven, therefore we MUST have come from natural means, therefore any evidence of design, no matter how convincing, is disregarded as an illusion or "appearance of design"
"they start with metaphysical presuppositions (God does not exist) and build a theory around it."
Why do "good christians" like you lie? Evolution does not say their is no god. Most christians I know accept evolution. Evolution has no problem with God or Jesus.
Its 2010 now, and in case you have not heard yet. Darwinian evolution is 100% completely and totally naturalistic. meaning it attempts to explain the origins of life WITHOUT a creator.
Life without a creator means NO GOD.
The one and ONLY reason why abiogenesis and ToE are separate. is because abiogenesis is absolutely laughable. and science knows it. this is why they are "separate theories"
Darwinian evolution has NO room for a creator in its theory
"Darwinian evolution is 100% completely and totally naturalistic. meaning it attempts to explain the origins of life WITHOUT a creator."
NO. Evolution explains the evolution of species. It doesn't have anything to do with abiogenesis. This is not a statement in favor of religion (i'm an atheist) but a fact. One can both believe in god and accept evolution, unless one happens to take creation myths from scripture literally.
@gamesbok "Naturalism" means all observable phenomenons must have a natural origin. which is clearly not true. If the space sciences were to received audio patterns from space that appear to be coded information they would conclude it was from an INTELLIGENT SOURCE and not a natural one
And a bit of logic for you, other intelligent life in this universe with the ability to create is not magic
The "super natural" is relevant to your current knowledge. hundreds of years ago quantum physics would have been considered super natural. a god like intellect existing is not only completely natural but probable considering order and complexity is common throughout the universe.
Either God brought order to the universe, or what ever created order in the universe could just as easily created a God like intellect. (abiogenesis of God)
@toobsucker The supernatural is relevant to our current knowledge? If you say so, sure. I've just remembered an important appointment elsewhere, you'll have to excuse me.
Yeah, actually it HAS been shown. Can't believe everything Kent Hovind tells ya. DNA is basically made up of 4 basic molecules that can be created (no pun) naturally.
on the rock formations: Yeah, they need to see if it was made by humans or naturally.
NASA looking for ID: Even if they were (which I don't see how they could) they obviously haven't found anything.
"Yeah, actually it HAS been shown. Can't believe everything Kent Hovind tells ya. DNA is basically made up of 4 basic molecules that can be created (no pun) naturally."
I know this to be NOT TRUE. as do the educated evolutionist on here. I study evolution/I.D. 5-6 hrs a day 4-5 days a week. I KNOW the evidences for and against ToE
"Yeah, actually it HAS been shown. Can't believe everything Kent Hovind tells ya. DNA is basically made up of 4 basic molecules that can be created (no pun) naturally.
on the rock formations: Yeah, they need to see if it was made by humans or naturally."
Yeah, I did. Do you? The space indicates a separation of thoughts. Thank you for proving how fucking stupid you are. Now I KNOW talking with you is an absolute waste of time. Over and out.
demonstration by John Oró that the nucleic acid purine base, adenine, was formed by heating aqueous ammonium cyanide solutions.[35] In support of abiogenesis in eutectic ice ,recent work demonstrated the formation of s-triazines , pyrimidines, and adenine from urea solutions subjected to freeze-thaw cycles under a reductive atmosphere (with spark discharges as an energy source).[
And your story of the origin is more "dignified"? You believe that some tyrant created us out of dirt (or blood, if you're Muslim) so we can be his little playthings.
@Homepie GOD of the bible created everything, not some coincadence, not some chance.
The LORD has created everything from the seen to the unseen, to the known and the not known, the heard of and the not known of, THE GOD OF THE BIBLE THE LORD JESUS CHRIST CREATED EVERYTHING!!!
Religion does poison everything, even the so-called "god-given" capacity to reason and think critically. God's so called totalitarian model demonstrated in the bible repeatedly is a template for authoritarian types to keep people stupid and thus indoctrinated to the point of being "His" Sheeple. Dawkins once said "Evolution cannot compete w/ a life time of indoctrination (Brainwashing)!"
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What puzzles me is how you people buy into the scientific propaganda and then claim to be intelligent. Main stream science has an agenda like any other control mechanism. Go ahead and let science be the wool pulled over your eyes. God could come down and rap you on the head and you would try to Carbon date him.
Thanx for posting. I HAD to sit and watch all 12 episodes.
This topic I found so very thought-provoking on so many levels that one should realize how so very important this topic is that they truly must forget that it may be the most difficult to discuss with mere civility and tolerance, let alone a seeming remote chance of being discussed openly and with real understanding and patience.
Typical christian response, throw anything that offends my fairy tale on a pyre. Book burning toadies. I am so very glad that these ID morons got humiliated in court.
Lol it reminds me of the "pigeon chess" remark. It goes "Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory."
Colec - I challenge you to DISPROVE the existence of Invisible Pink Unicorns! Doing that precisely the same as believing in God. One cannot disprove the existence of invisible pink unicorns.
Oh, they're here, they're all around, only they were wiped out by a comet Billions of Years ago, but remaining fossilized bone dust suggests DNA might have existed, though we are certain they existed, only the proof and evidence is invisible, though we are sure the fossil record bears this out. (Oh, that, and they are pink only when they are NOT invisible...)
Well turning to science really doesn't help the ID movement, since it has no scientific credibility. I suppose the best they can do is the Johnie Cochran strategy, in which they just cast enough doubt on evolution.
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Our experiments measured how rapidly nuclear-decay-generated helium escapes from tiny radioactive crystals in granite-like rock. Data shows most of the helium generated by nuclear decay would have escaped during the alleged 1.5 billion year uniformitarian age of the rock, and there would be very little helium in the crystals today. But the crystals still retain large amounts of helium, amounts are consistent with an age of thousands of years.
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Two physicists-Dr. Joao Magueijo, a Royal Society research fellow at Imperial College, London, and Dr. Andreas Albrecht, of the University of California at Davis-are proposing that, immediately after the universe was born, the speed of light may have been far faster than its present-day value of 186,000 miles per second. They now believe that it has been slowing down ever since.
Dr. Humphreys needs to carefully and rationally deal with these questions before scientists will ever take his work seriously. Missing a Values and Anisotropic Diffusion Missing b values Impure and Improper Biotite Separations Unexplained "Typos" in Gentry et al. (1982a) Inaccurate Q0 values and Inflated Q/Q0 values Important Thorium Data are Missing The Wet Past of the Fenton Hill Rocks Possibility of Extraneous Helium and much more. From the TalkOrigins web site by Kevin R. Henke, Ph.D.
Refuting the age of the Earth makes intelligent design true by default? And not just intelligent design, but you are apparently arguing for young Earth creationism.
Ah, well:
"Because Dr. Humphreys' helium diffusion data were obtained under a vacuum rather than under pressures that realistically model the subsurface conditions at Fenton Hill, the actual helium diffusion results at Fenton Hill are probably orders of magnitude lower"
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Christian science is always cutting edge and correct.
Like the fact that ring around saturn is actually jesus foreskin (its true google it) the pope supported this idea & it was the head of his library in the vatican that came up with this brilliant scientific theory.
Christians were still trying to spread the idea that the earth was flat in the beginning of the 1900´s google "flat earth map" and you will see a map of a flat earth with an angel standing in all 4 corners,like in revelation
The1VoiceOfReason 1 month ago in playlist Judgment Day: Intelligent Design on Trial
Wow, Nova did this? I have so much respect for them now.
ApatheticOmniscience 1 month ago
... i dont want to live in america anymore... this is just sick, how can anyone take ID seriously
phantomwolf2 1 month ago
Creationists are right! They did not come from apes. They came from DONKEYS & ASSES ..lol
leesoarez 2 months ago in playlist Judgment Day: Intelligent Design on Trial
Every time ID comes out in the open and puts its cards on the table, it gets stomped.
Still, they do keep trying...
Waltham1892 4 months ago
religion studies belongs in the social studies classroom
Dubickimus 4 months ago
The creepy and unsettling thing about Intelligent Design proponents is that one them has learnt an 11-letter word; maybe that makes them some kind of "scientist".
bobinhk1 5 months ago
Must read article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! Just google the title.
Mogley52 5 months ago in playlist Judgment Day: Intelligent Design on Trial
Those who deny the theory of gravity and those who accept the theory of gravity.
pillowbugg 5 months ago in playlist Judgment Day: Intelligent Design on Trial
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@pillowbugg You said "Those who deny the theory of gravity and those who accept the theory of gravity."
I have actually debated creationists who stated "GRAVITY IS A LAW NOT A THEORY!!" in upper case letters. This only serves to exhibit their ignorance of a scientific theory's validity and science in general.
CynicalSkeptic1 1 month ago
Can any one show me something they think is evidence for intelligent design? If so please show it to me.
jeremythehuman 6 months ago in playlist Judgment Day: Intelligent Design on Trial
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
- Epicurus
dragslayar 6 months ago
I have watched nearly every dvd from Lee Stobel to Stephen Hawkins. My top ten must watch dvd's to educate about religion...The Bibles Buried Secrets: Israelite Origins, Judgement Day Intelligent Design on Trial, Testament 1 John Romer, National Geographics: Was Darwin Wrong, Noahs Ark: The true story, History Channels Ape to Man, National Geographics: The Walking Whale, Egyptian Secrets of the Afterlife, The Bible Unearthed and Zeitgeist. Also, Wikipedia Ron Wyatt and the Discovery Institute.
Information39 6 months ago
When humans fell we changed instantly from being immortal to being mortal, and the entire universe changed instantaneously too. When Jesus comes back the change will be just as dramatic,2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Things that die will not be able to withstand the Glory of God.
kobidobidog 7 months ago
Evolution,and creation beliefs divide.That should be a clear indication that the mastermind behind this division is Not God at all for God does not divide. This is also drawing humans attention away from what really matters, and that is Christ in us to love, and do good to whoever no matter what being forgiving,and being respectful, and judging yourself,and not another. The non human animals can teach us a lot by not even thinking about evolution or creation being naked, and not caring at all.
kobidobidog 7 months ago
IDiots are the best evidence against intelligent design.
111E982a 7 months ago
Any intelligent made products, I called it intellen, has a history of having an opposite and equal, some are not equal due to the principle of importance, as discovered by intelligent design. The old Intelligent Design as supported by Behe had collapsed but not the new ID.
MrIntelligentdesign 8 months ago in playlist Judgment Day: Intelligent Design on Trial
If you believe in Intelligent design. Then you belong to a cult. Grab the good book ..The Dictionary and look up CULT.
zegthuszag 8 months ago
Darwin vs superstitious characters.
zegthuszag 8 months ago
Wow. The painting was removed AND destroyed. Imagine how it would been the sides switched and a child had their painting of an angelical figure giving birth to humans...not just removed from the school...but also destroyed by scientists? Its better to believe that we were put here by the divine...but wait. So were the monkeys and everything else...right? I mean God did create the WHOLE world right? If it had been flowers we evolved from...there wouldnt be a problem? Didnt fit belief..burn it.
adrunkkat 9 months ago
Steve Fuller talking about Evolution? He taught sociology.
ragerancher 9 months ago 3
It is important to understand that their is a BIG, BIG difference between science and religious belief systems. Science is a tool used to solve problems. Religious belief systems are things you believe in. You don't believe in science. Instead, you use it to solve problems just like your hammer. You don't believe in your hammer, you use it to solve problems. Science and religious belief systems are completely unrelated and unfit for comparison.
blaisingm 9 months ago
@blaisingm But I belief in the Hammer of Thor, don`t insult me beliefs, or I smash you;-)
galgenvogel 8 months ago
The giraffe's laryngeal nerve runs all the way down its neck, circles the aorta, and goes back up the neck to the larynx. Why? Because the bones than make the larynx were once part of a gill structure in fish ancestors. At the time the nerve took a fairly direct route, but now the bones have a different purpose, and the nerve takes a 15' detour. If gradual evolution didn't do it, then "ID" must stand for "Incompetent Design".
Aren't you a little old to be talking to an imaginary friend anyway?
Keovar 10 months ago 3
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Jesus is king of kings and lord of lords
bass109 11 months ago
what US needs is mandatory curriculum that covers basic logic and reasoning with practical excercises so the idiots would not get to have education to climb to higher layers of society and not polute it. Go make farmlands in africa morons and atleast be useful to humanity.
VarykGerai 11 months ago
Creationists say that they just want a 'fair' playing field...yet what they actually request is 'jumping to the front of the line' by avoiding the scrutiny of the peer review process. All other scientific avenues of thought must be subjected to examination by fellow scientists prior to it being generally accepted. Intelligent Design requests to completely bypass this procedure and have their material taught without any kind of outside analysis.
CynicalSkeptic1 11 months ago 2
I love how every idiot toting the young-earth story has been marked as spam. Some people, out of, to be frank, ignorant stubbornness, unrelentingly place their arbitrarily assigned theology over what can be seen and observed (yes, evolution has been observed) out of faith of fear of being let down which can be frustrating, but nuts like TrunkMonkey3000 never fail to make me smile.
Schragmeister 11 months ago
I'd never send my child to a school that didn't teach science; I'd employ a home tutor. An athiest home tutor.
dougyoolikeme 1 year ago
ID is a total crock of shit. Religion disguised.
crazypdj 1 year ago
I still don't get why these people want judgement day and want the world to end so some guy with a beard and a robe can return to "save" them. I think people should enjoy their lives and go on with lives for their own reasons instead of having a book think for them.
Requiemxtoxinnocence 1 year ago
DUR HUR, ME AND MY CUZZINS DON'T EVILOTIONS CUZ THATS NOT LIEK JESUS, DUR HURR DERP..
TheToxicRadio 1 year ago
American's wanna hold on to their imaginary friend rather than science and reason? Fine, they'll just keep falling behind everyone else in the scientific world, in general knowledge, education and consequently economy...
83Hammerhead 1 year ago 3
@83Hammerhead No, only stupid Americans, some of us are still thinking, hard to believe, right?
TheToxicRadio 1 year ago
@TheToxicRadio when I see these videos it is a bit hard to believe sometimes...but I did overgeneralize too much in my comment, sorry! Let's both meet makeme708 on may 21st 2011 to celebrate thinking ;)
83Hammerhead 1 year ago
@83Hammerhead haha, i'll bring a "Happy May 21st 2011" banner and take pictures
TheToxicRadio 1 year ago
@TheToxicRadio damn, too bad I live in England, that'd be too funny, just show up at his doorstep and go: "SURPRISE!"
83Hammerhead 1 year ago
these white america fuckwits, dont want to be related to monkeys, because it ALSO means they are related to black people.
they are racists cunts
mikesomething 1 year ago
PBS is holy in my eyes,haha.
CavllNorthNorth 1 year ago
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You have to be an idiot to believe that everything evolved, it's clear that man and everything in the universe was created by an ALMIGHTY EVERLASTING ETERNAL GOD WHO IS THE ONE AND ONLY CREATOR.
MAY 21 2011 IS THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.
It's really horrible to me how far man has fallen and how so much smarter man thinks they are than GOD. So what these evolutionist are saying is that Darwin is their god? because that's what they are saying. GOD will return in a few months.
makeme708 1 year ago
@makeme708 I'll test that prophecy!
Do you own a home? If so, I will buy it off you for $20. The conditions are that I will give you the $20 upon the signing of the deal, however I do not receive the house until May 22. You win! You get the cash now when you can use it plus get to keep your home until the proposed date of the rapture. I only get to take ownership until the date after the proposed rapture when you will no longer need it. This is a test of your faith in this date!
DJ
djarm67 1 year ago 34
@djarm67 That's just idiotic, i still have to live in my home until MAY 21 2011 JUDGMENTDAY.
makeme708 1 year ago
@makeme708 You still get to live in it until May 22 plus you get $20. You can't lose! You don't need the house after judgment day which is when I take possession of it.
DJ
djarm67 1 year ago 16
@djarm67 Just curious is he ever took you up on the $20 house offer on May 22?
bearchewtoy75 10 months ago
@bearchewtoy75 Unfortunately, He ran away. I guess he didn't have the faith of a mustard seed.
djarm67 10 months ago 4
@djarm67 That was the most clever response i've seen on the internet for a long time.
Thumbs up!
PM011 10 months ago
@djarm67, its june 3rd and im still alive. this religious asshole was stupid!
guardman12345 8 months ago
@guardman12345 You're taking him out of context. He meant some other date in some other year.
djarm67 8 months ago
@makeme708 Well makeme come on! Since you so sincerely believe in the day of judgment ot be May 21 2011 then stand by your beliefs. Djarm will let you live in your house until May21 2011 after which you wont need it since you will be raptured.
However I think I can see where this belief is really heading.
Irishfreethinker 1 year ago
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LOL. You won't be able to live in your home because I'm going to burn it to the fucking floor.
lackrome 1 year ago
@makeme708 You said "That's just idiotic, i still have to live in my home until MAY 21 2011 JUDGMENTDAY."
How ironic that you said 'That's just idiotic". Those three words can describe the remainder of your statement.
I am nearly omniscient myself and I have psychically ascertained that the world will still be here on May 22, 2011. Please message me on that date and tell me how wrong you were to have ever believed in religion.
CynicalSkeptic1 11 months ago
@djarm67
I'm willing to bet $100000000 dollars that he won't convert when may 22nd comes and nothing happens.
MeetYourMeaker 1 year ago
@djarm67 Hey! I actually did the same thing to one of the tenant at the hotel where I used to work. So come May 22, I will be getting my 100 bucks! I have to say that you got a way better deal than I did though. ^_^
crazydrunk88 11 months ago
@makeme708 could i come over on MAY 21st 2011 and laugh at your face?
TheToxicRadio 1 year ago
@makeme708 So all Christians will be leaving earth on May 21st? Cant wait!!!!! Good Ridence!
MrDoobious 9 months ago
@makeme708 Bet you feel like a regular jackass now, don'tcha?
exconguitar 8 months ago
GOD rulzzz YEAAAA... Earth is 4000 Years Old, take it like man; accept creationalism TODAY!... lame...
Orical001 1 year ago
@Orical001 You do realize creationist /=/ intelligent design right? Intelligent design is when science and Christianity can co-exist in the most logical manner.
jshjamaar 1 year ago
@jshjamaar oxymoron mate
Orical001 1 year ago
It's fucking amazing that some people in America STILL haven't reached the point of enlightenment.
Hereticbooks 1 year ago
Thank you for uploading this; You are a gentleman and a scholar.
fartmaster962000 1 year ago
aliens created us, end of story
mariek12 1 year ago
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A lot of people don't realize that Evolution isn't scientific at all. Science is something that can be validated and proven to be true through the scientific method. Can you prove evolution through the scientific method? Or is it just some "theory". Thanks for your time :P
TrunkMonkey3000 1 year ago
@TrunkMonkey3000
You just prove you have zero understanding of what a scientific theory is.
A theory is a framework that fits the known facts (observations) and delivers testable predictions. For a theory to fail, all you need is 1 incorrect prediction. That's also why we give creedence to The Theory of Relativity. Almost 100 years down the line, it still produces correct predictions, just as evolution does. just as all the scientific theories do. THAT'S why we trust them. They actually work
tdjdk 1 year ago
@tdjdk youre confusing a theory with a law, theories can be modified and change as new information is discovered, a law cannot
gordonisnext 1 year ago
@gordonisnext
"theories can be modified and change as new information is discovered, a law cannot"
A theory is defined as a well-confirmed model of phenomena that explains a large body of facts and which has inspired a large body of research.
A law is a statement of an order or relation of phenomena that so far as is known is invariable under the given conditions.
Both can be modified or discarded if they are demonstrated to be inacurate.
Atriviality 1 year ago
@Atriviality thank you for correcting my inaccurate concept of the difference between scientific theory and law
gordonisnext 1 year ago
@TrunkMonkey3000 Thanks for demonstrating to everyone that you have no idea what science actually is.
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djarm67 1 year ago 31
@djarm67 Thanks so much for posting this video.
CynicalSkeptic1 11 months ago
@TrunkMonkey3000
A lot of people have no idea what science is or what science can (and cannot) do. Please refrain from pontification on things you don't understand.
ClumsyRoot 1 year ago
@TrunkMonkey3000
ohhhhhh you funny guy
Timmay123456789 1 year ago
@TrunkMonkey3000 theory is the highest place a hypothesis or idea can reach, and evolution has been proven, evolution is change over time and it has been observed after several new species of finch evolved in the Galapagos, the theory of evolution explains the diversity of life, not the fact that life changes over time which is a fact
gordonisnext 1 year ago
@gordonisnext Lol, that is not a new species. That would be a subspecies or a different breed... It`s still a finch, silly.
TrunkMonkey3000 1 year ago
@TrunkMonkey3000 - by using the phrase "just a theory" you show that you don't understand what a scientific theory is. It's not the same as say, a conspiracy theory or other conjectural ideas that may be called a theory. It must follow a very specific set of criteria, it must be preceded by hypothesis and observation, and must make novel predictions which can be tested. One observation can prove a theory wrong, and evolution has stood up to over a century of observation.
r0g3r 1 year ago
@TrunkMonkey3000
Yeah you can.Guess what you can't prove?That some creator who is invisible and intangible exists.
Oh and also evolution is a done deal...slam dunk...proven on DNA levels.You only have the option of intelligent designer who "designed" evolution(which would be kinda stupid in my opinion) or that evolution happened by itself (like it can happen by itself).
PS The scientific world couldn't care less if you are offended or not by the apes thing.
MeetYourMeaker 1 year ago
@TrunkMonkey3000 Yeah... How do u explain vestigal structures then? Surely an almighty being wouldn't put extra crap in his creations. And the transitional species? Natural selection makes logical sense. Any mutation that benefits a species helps it survive and pass the gene one, and if it harms the species, it dies off before it can pass the gene on.
cooljoelguy 11 months ago
@cooljoelguy Vestigal structures are so-called "useless" organs. I don`t think they are useless at all. I can rotate my ears and move them all over the place, and it helps when I`m getting a hair cut. The appendix is used for breaking down heavy foliage and roughages. If you started eating a lot of this type of food, I have no doubt that your appendix would be woken back up and start to work heavily. So to say a structure is vestigal or useless is not something I would personally say.
TrunkMonkey3000 11 months ago
@TrunkMonkey3000 Vestigal doesnt mean useless. It means it´s original purpose is "outdated" and that it may or may not be used for something else than it´s original purpose.
Korkzor 11 months ago
@TrunkMonkey3000 "I have no doubt that your appendix would be woken back up and start to work heavily"... this is testable. Do vegetarians have a larger appendix than others? No. So you having "no doubt" is in violation of the natural laws, observation, and rational, sensible inquiry.
I love when the scientificly illiterate try to school the world in a subject that they have no competency it. Hey, trunkmonkey, do you let the pool guy do your heart surgery too?
no2religions 7 months ago
I guess the problem, in the end, is that some (even most maybe?) people feel so damn superior and above the natural world that the thought that we are somehow part of it makes them shudder...what a sad, ego-centrical, self-loving view. besides educational problems, this also creates a lot of environmental problems these days. I really hope people wake up some day and start embracing our ancestry and evolution, which is an amazing, wonderful story!
83Hammerhead 1 year ago 2
@83Hammerhead this is a wonderful comment, i feel exactly the same way.
holdenbane 1 year ago
Wow...this is not too different than how fundamentallist muslims have acted, but at least there was not a holy jihad where people were hacked to death with machettes in the street like in Nigeria.
Allen78x 1 year ago
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Allen78x 1 year ago
to believe in creationism is believing in a simple, easy, quick and irrational explanation about existence that also has very little evidence.
knowing this, anyone considering creationism should ATLEAST question EVERYTHING about it....
in what other aspect of life is it good to follow the "simple,quick, easy, irrational" path that has virtually no evidence backing it up?
sfsTrader 1 year ago
Judge Jones concluded that Alan Bonsell lied under oath, now swearing on a bible doesn't mean that much to me, but you would think it would mean something to Bonsell!
TheJarredJammer 1 year ago 3
Id laugh if people who believe in intelligent design somehow found out the 'designer' was Allah. Id think theyd change their minds
j3parrots 1 year ago 3
sadly even with all the evidence for evolution I'd see these same people doing the same thing even if allah came down.
Rokuns 1 year ago
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collapseofthedollar 1 year ago
@collapseofthedollar
Evolutionary science is the only area of science that has adopted Methodological Naturalism
" Methodological naturalism maintains that scientific investigation must adhere to empirical study and independent verification as a process for properly developing and evaluating natural explanations for observable phenomena.[27] Methodological naturalism, therefore, rejects supernatural explanations, arguments from authority and biased observational studies."
toobsucker 1 year ago
@toobsucker Obvious troll is obvious.
SubstantDisorder 1 year ago
@collapseofthedollar Stop feeding the troll.
SubstantDisorder 1 year ago
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collapseofthedollar 2 years ago
Kevin Padian of Berkley LIES when he says
"Intelligent Design is not anywhere a scientific concept"
In fact Geologist must determine if rock formations are natural or designed and NASA scientists also look for signs of I.D. and do NOT try to FORCE naturalism into every explanation
We have NO EXAMPLES ANYWHERE to show digital codes (in DNA) can arise from any source OTHER THAN an intelligence. these men prove the scripture "mans wisdom (I.Q.) is foolishness with God"
toobsucker 2 years ago
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collapseofthedollar 2 years ago
@collapseofthedollar
What is unscientific is the way ToE restricts its self to methodological naturalism to explain EVERY observable phenomenon. when other areas of science DO NOT restrict themselves like this
There is nothing scientific about a theory that starts out with a metaphysical assumption that God can not be proven, therefore we MUST have come from natural means, therefore any evidence of design, no matter how convincing, is disregarded as an illusion or "appearance of design"
toobsucker 1 year ago
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collapseofthedollar 1 year ago
@collapseofthedollar
Evolutionary science does not use reason. they start with metaphysical presuppositions (God does not exist) and build a theory around it.
There is NO types of logic that use a unprovable assumption as a starting point to build a theory around.
Evolutionary science is committed to
naturalism. so any evidence of design must be considered only "appearance of
design" because of a prior metaphysical and "unscientific" commitment to naturalism
toobsucker 1 year ago
@tobbsucker
"they start with metaphysical presuppositions (God does not exist) and build a theory around it."
Why do "good christians" like you lie? Evolution does not say their is no god. Most christians I know accept evolution. Evolution has no problem with God or Jesus.
So why do you people insist on saying it does?
Svperstarr 1 year ago 2
@Svperstarr
Its 2010 now, and in case you have not heard yet. Darwinian evolution is 100% completely and totally naturalistic. meaning it attempts to explain the origins of life WITHOUT a creator.
Life without a creator means NO GOD.
The one and ONLY reason why abiogenesis and ToE are separate. is because abiogenesis is absolutely laughable. and science knows it. this is why they are "separate theories"
Darwinian evolution has NO room for a creator in its theory
toobsucker 1 year ago
"Darwinian evolution is 100% completely and totally naturalistic. meaning it attempts to explain the origins of life WITHOUT a creator."
NO. Evolution explains the evolution of species. It doesn't have anything to do with abiogenesis. This is not a statement in favor of religion (i'm an atheist) but a fact. One can both believe in god and accept evolution, unless one happens to take creation myths from scripture literally.
byteresistor 1 year ago
@toobsucker All science is comitted to naturalism. That's what makes it science.
Take your magic and stuff it.
gamesbok 1 year ago
@gamesbok "Naturalism" means all observable phenomenons must have a natural origin. which is clearly not true. If the space sciences were to received audio patterns from space that appear to be coded information they would conclude it was from an INTELLIGENT SOURCE and not a natural one
And a bit of logic for you, other intelligent life in this universe with the ability to create is not magic
toobsucker 1 year ago
@toobsucker But not supernatural Toob, just natural, and scientific.
gamesbok 1 year ago
@gamesbok ,
The "super natural" is relevant to your current knowledge. hundreds of years ago quantum physics would have been considered super natural. a god like intellect existing is not only completely natural but probable considering order and complexity is common throughout the universe.
Either God brought order to the universe, or what ever created order in the universe could just as easily created a God like intellect. (abiogenesis of God)
toobsucker 1 year ago
@toobsucker The supernatural is relevant to our current knowledge? If you say so, sure. I've just remembered an important appointment elsewhere, you'll have to excuse me.
gamesbok 1 year ago
@toobsucker Do you believe this to be a testable hypothesis?
gamesbok 1 year ago
Yeah, actually it HAS been shown. Can't believe everything Kent Hovind tells ya. DNA is basically made up of 4 basic molecules that can be created (no pun) naturally.
on the rock formations: Yeah, they need to see if it was made by humans or naturally.
NASA looking for ID: Even if they were (which I don't see how they could) they obviously haven't found anything.
infectingthecrypts 2 years ago
@infectingthecrypts
DNA has been observed to form naturally on ROCK FORMATIONS?
WHERE in the hell did you read that?
Science just recently got RNA to form "naturally" under guided control in the lab, and that was a big deal to them.
Most atheists online are filled with a myriad of misinformation.
Post your sources that say DNA forms naturally.
And secondly. RNA and DNA are merely the "paper" in which the code must be
written. making paper is not ToEs problem. its the code
toobsucker 1 year ago
Who the fuck said that? Before you try to debate anything, warm up your mind with "See Spot Run" or "Rainbow Fish."
See potholer54's "origins of life made easy." It isn't an "official" scientific video, but it is based on what has been observed and what we know.
And how about you cite your sources? Nothing you have said (that I've seen) is anything more than bullshit based on what you think should be true.
infectingthecrypts 1 year ago
@infectingthecrypts
You did
"Yeah, actually it HAS been shown. Can't believe everything Kent Hovind tells ya. DNA is basically made up of 4 basic molecules that can be created (no pun) naturally."
I know this to be NOT TRUE. as do the educated evolutionist on here. I study evolution/I.D. 5-6 hrs a day 4-5 days a week. I KNOW the evidences for and against ToE
And I know DNA does not form naturally.
toobsucker 1 year ago
Christ, Notice how I didn't mention rock formations in that thought?
There is NO evolution against evolution! Besides, abiogenesis has nothing to do with evolution.
And how do you know this? Ken Ham? Kasey Luskin? MR. Kent Hovind PhD (Phake degree)?
infectingthecrypts 1 year ago
@infectingthecrypts
Do you even read your own posts
"Yeah, actually it HAS been shown. Can't believe everything Kent Hovind tells ya. DNA is basically made up of 4 basic molecules that can be created (no pun) naturally.
on the rock formations: Yeah, they need to see if it was made by humans or naturally."
toobsucker 1 year ago
Yeah, I did. Do you? The space indicates a separation of thoughts. Thank you for proving how fucking stupid you are. Now I KNOW talking with you is an absolute waste of time. Over and out.
Do ya 10-4, motherfucker?
infectingthecrypts 1 year ago
demonstration by John Oró that the nucleic acid purine base, adenine, was formed by heating aqueous ammonium cyanide solutions.[35] In support of abiogenesis in eutectic ice ,recent work demonstrated the formation of s-triazines , pyrimidines, and adenine from urea solutions subjected to freeze-thaw cycles under a reductive atmosphere (with spark discharges as an energy source).[
gamesbok 1 year ago
@toobsucker 'How Evolution incerases genetic information', Thomas Schneider, Journal of Nuclaic Acid Research, Oxford University, July 2000.
DNA bases have been created in primative atmosphere experiments. It seems that it's not only atheists who are filled with misinformation.
gamesbok 1 year ago
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@toobsucker @toobsucker 'How Evolution incerases genetic information', Thomas Schneider, Journal of Nuclaic Acid Research, Oxford University, July 2000.
DNA bases have been created in primative atmosphere experiments. It seems that it's not only atheists who are filled with misinformation.
gamesbok 1 year ago
The definition of an evolutionist:
One who makes a monkey of himself
toobsucker 2 years ago
And your story of the origin is more "dignified"? You believe that some tyrant created us out of dirt (or blood, if you're Muslim) so we can be his little playthings.
infectingthecrypts 1 year ago
If there is a God science is the only way to find out who or what he/she is...
Rusvi1 2 years ago
Anyone notice how the only educated people against evolution are lawyers and business men?
okeeffdp 2 years ago
I wouldn't say lawyers and buisnessmen. GOD knows they will do anything for money.
deadman12078 2 years ago
Science is truly the most beautiful, most wondrous thing.
Homepie 2 years ago 32
@Homepie
Read king solomon's ring
it's epic.
okeeffdp 2 years ago
what is king solomens ring about?
Howboutthinking 2 years ago
@Howboutthinking
A life of a great zoologist. Excellent book, it will make you jealous of the lives of scientists.
okeeffdp 2 years ago
@Homepie GOD of the bible created everything, not some coincadence, not some chance.
The LORD has created everything from the seen to the unseen, to the known and the not known, the heard of and the not known of, THE GOD OF THE BIBLE THE LORD JESUS CHRIST CREATED EVERYTHING!!!
makeme708 1 year ago
@Homepie I completely agree that science is a wondrous thing, and I'm a Christian.
jshjamaar 1 year ago
I love nova it'sone of my most favourite shows!
historylover58 2 years ago
I thought I could make Dover a more ignorant place to live in.
mikesinner69 2 years ago
Religion does poison everything, even the so-called "god-given" capacity to reason and think critically. God's so called totalitarian model demonstrated in the bible repeatedly is a template for authoritarian types to keep people stupid and thus indoctrinated to the point of being "His" Sheeple. Dawkins once said "Evolution cannot compete w/ a life time of indoctrination (Brainwashing)!"
tomestubbs 2 years ago 2
At 6:50 it says it all:
"In the beginning God created... that's all I need to know."
CLASSIC!
How religion shuts down human enquiry and intellectual progress.
warren52nz 2 years ago 13
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What puzzles me is how you people buy into the scientific propaganda and then claim to be intelligent. Main stream science has an agenda like any other control mechanism. Go ahead and let science be the wool pulled over your eyes. God could come down and rap you on the head and you would try to Carbon date him.
Yldii 2 years ago
@Yldii
then why doesnt he?
MannyKunV 2 years ago
@Yldii :
oh, so religion DOES NOT HAVE AN AGENDA
and if god came down, that would actually be verifiable evidence that one exists
thegoochieguy 2 years ago
sighhhh... and mega facepalm
ueks69 2 years ago
Thanx for posting. I HAD to sit and watch all 12 episodes.
This topic I found so very thought-provoking on so many levels that one should realize how so very important this topic is that they truly must forget that it may be the most difficult to discuss with mere civility and tolerance, let alone a seeming remote chance of being discussed openly and with real understanding and patience.
RevSpike 2 years ago
I'll talk about the gaps in evolution if THEY agree to talk about the gaps in "intelligent design"
spideylover 2 years ago 3
It's a real shame we allow creationists to breed and breath.
TheForeskinrunner777 2 years ago 4
6:50 sec in really says it all dosent it?
MadFiddler1972 2 years ago
*facepalm*
shnatko 2 years ago
Starlight (using basic triangulation we have proved that the starlight we see on earth is often millions of years old.)
Dinosaurs. Fossils. Dinosaur fossils. (It takes more than 6000 years for bones to become fossilized and then encased in a mountain.
The entire Australian ecology. (Evolution took a different path in Australia which, over millions of years, produced many completely unique animals)
The human spleen. (The human race also pre-dates the biblical timeline.)
Shit is old.
/debate.
yahwehsferret 2 years ago 4
I still can't believe that this whole controversy started with a piece of Artwork!
Creationists are so against Evolution, they don't want to see it in a f***ing Art Class!
Ironically, an Atheist would be crucified if they'd burnt a picture of Jesus!
Bowmaj21 2 years ago
Christians don't think they are stupid enough already; they need to have lessons on how to be even stupider in schooltime.
They could have a point: it is pretty difficult to be a Baptist or a Pentecostal if you have an IQ in double figures.
thallassocracy 2 years ago
Evolution has been proven unequivocably.
In an experiment by Cambridge University last year, 200 creationists and 200 chimps were asked if they believed in evolution.
The results came up Creationists 0%, Chimps 0.5%
This shows that chimps have now marginally surpassed creationists in intelligence.
The control groups, moderate Christians and atheists managed 49% and 98% respectively
jazzx251 2 years ago
God created, thats all i need to know
Really? enjoy life with out science
mrbearbear83 2 years ago
This is an excellent vid about keeping church out of state, not slamming Christians. The comments on here are nothing but pure idiocy.
tikinkss 2 years ago
Typical christian response, throw anything that offends my fairy tale on a pyre. Book burning toadies. I am so very glad that these ID morons got humiliated in court.
JACKtheRIPP3R189 2 years ago 2
Well said, JACKtheRIPP3R189, colec001 clearly has some psychological issues.
Its like watching a retard beat on himself, and then cheering when he thinks he is winning....
Xeletoph did an excellent job destroying the Creationists denial.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
Lol it reminds me of the "pigeon chess" remark. It goes "Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory."
JACKtheRIPP3R189 2 years ago 2
Oh that is an awesome saying!!
HA!!!
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
Wow...I fully agree with Xeletoph. 'Nuff said.
kingferret53 2 years ago
Colec - I challenge you to DISPROVE the existence of Invisible Pink Unicorns! Doing that precisely the same as believing in God. One cannot disprove the existence of invisible pink unicorns.
Xeletoph 2 years ago 2
Oh, they're here, they're all around, only they were wiped out by a comet Billions of Years ago, but remaining fossilized bone dust suggests DNA might have existed, though we are certain they existed, only the proof and evidence is invisible, though we are sure the fossil record bears this out. (Oh, that, and they are pink only when they are NOT invisible...)
colec001 2 years ago
Oooo. Nova. I loved Nova growing up and now... I am going to watch the most historic boot to ID's head.
sabertooth1980 2 years ago
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i love this videos
deljugo 2 years ago
I read the full transcript of this trial.
The creation science community completely abandoned their cause. They did not even make a serious effort.
they ran, in most cowardly way
rastarigate 2 years ago 6
Okay I looked it up Robert Muise is a lawyer
Steve Fuller is a sociologist
Phillip Johnson is another lawyer
Couldn't they do any better?
VoteNixon2008 2 years ago
Well turning to science really doesn't help the ID movement, since it has no scientific credibility. I suppose the best they can do is the Johnie Cochran strategy, in which they just cast enough doubt on evolution.
Leehofooks 2 years ago
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Science does support ID in many ways, but it is difficult to hear with fingers in one's ears...
colec001 2 years ago
No fingers. I'm all ears. Let's hear it.
Leehofooks 2 years ago
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Our experiments measured how rapidly nuclear-decay-generated helium escapes from tiny radioactive crystals in granite-like rock. Data shows most of the helium generated by nuclear decay would have escaped during the alleged 1.5 billion year uniformitarian age of the rock, and there would be very little helium in the crystals today. But the crystals still retain large amounts of helium, amounts are consistent with an age of thousands of years.
-Dr. Humphreys, Associate Professor of Physics
colec001 2 years ago
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Two physicists-Dr. Joao Magueijo, a Royal Society research fellow at Imperial College, London, and Dr. Andreas Albrecht, of the University of California at Davis-are proposing that, immediately after the universe was born, the speed of light may have been far faster than its present-day value of 186,000 miles per second. They now believe that it has been slowing down ever since.
colec001 2 years ago
And their peer reviewed papers on the subject of the speed of light being greater than now observed are where ?
asianlife53 2 years ago
I LOVE it when Creationist dipshits use propaganda and pseudo science to try and validate their bullshit.
Even talkorigins bashes Humphreys for his failures.
colec001, you are full of bullshit, and its just too obvious!
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago 2
Colec001, you filthy liar, do your research and check up on your sources BEFORE you advocate what they are saying.
Blatant lies like what you posted only make you look like a babbling retard with his thumb up his ass.
Dont commit intellectual suicide again, retard.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago
On the other hand, thanks for finding more fraudsters and idiots to add to my project!
I will be doing full research on those idiots you mentioned and expose their lies and failures for all to see.
Using these idiots as some kind of ace in the hole will not work when everyone knows they dont actually have any credibility.
Thanks for helping me expose more pseudo-science fraudsters, colec001. Like Hovind, they will only embarrass themselves.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago 2
Saying that two scientists propose something isn't evidence.
Leehofooks 2 years ago
Refuting the age of the Earth makes intelligent design true by default? And not just intelligent design, but you are apparently arguing for young Earth creationism.
Ah, well:
"Because Dr. Humphreys' helium diffusion data were obtained under a vacuum rather than under pressures that realistically model the subsurface conditions at Fenton Hill, the actual helium diffusion results at Fenton Hill are probably orders of magnitude lower"
-Dr Kevin R. Henke
Leehofooks 2 years ago
Really? It would be quite nice for it not to be imaginary
per50n 2 years ago
"Science does support ID in many ways"
Pure bullshit, little boy.
Why do you think you can get away with blatant lies like this?
I suggest you actually watch this video series, moron.
You simply fail.
ThatOneQuestion 2 years ago