I keep a lovely lump of coal in my living room. It's quite clean actually. Don't believe what you hear :O. diamonds come from coal, are diamonds dirty? [-x No.
FYI, I know former uranium miners in Colorado and Utah, and the energy industry told them it was safe too! In Monticello, Utah, a large portion of the population now has cancer due to energy industry lies about uranium mining and milling!
"Clean Coal" is the linguistic equivalent of "Dry Water" or "Honest Politicians" or "Ethical Corporations" or "Peaceful Empires" or in justinkk's case, "Informed Citizen" or "Smart Moron"
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go to that. most of you know nothing about coal i'm sure, while most of americans are loosing there jobs, here in east ky we are hirin because of COAL. You cannot take coal out considering it employs half a million ppl
It's horrifying to think that we're still living off of coal technology - and it cannot improve - coal is carbon, no matter how we process it we'll be throwing off the carbon cycle and most likely adding more CO2 to our already overpacked atmosphere. It's true, there is no clean coal - I'd like to believe America's still innovative and determined enough to clean up our act and invest in wind power.
brycedub, there is not a single CCS plant running in the US right now. Reality is trying to show how ridiculous the "Clean Coal - America's Power" ad campaign is. We should invest in proven technologies like wind, CSP (concentrated solar power), geothermal, and explore the potential of algae and other biomass. The idea of "Clean Coal" is a last ditch effort by coal companies to preserve their cash cow for a few more years.
I'm a big believer in wind and solar. If my property was large enough I'd install a wind turbine or solar center myself. But I'm also a realist. At the current rate of development wind and solar will only account for less than 10% of our power supply in 20-30 years. What do we do in the meantime? We have to invest in making what we have that works cleaner in the meantime. Everyone should be for clean coal while we work to make other sources more reliable and more available.
Pilot plants doing 'bits' of CCS exist (Schwarze Pumpe in Germany stores the CO2 temporarily in cylinders).
To my knowledge no one is expecting commercial coal power with CCS to exist anywhere in the world before 2020, after that fast roll-out looks unfeasible.
CCS must overcome challenges including suitable storage sites within 100km of power stations, cost, proof of no leakage.
The Reality campaign, highlights the 'unreality' of the the Americas Power campaign.
So I suppose the question is this: does the reality campaign want CCS to succeed or not? It's pretty simple really. You must agree renewables can't replace coal's generating capacity in the next 20-30 years, so the question becomes whether the reality campaign wants to continue discouraging the development of technologies that will make current electricity sources cleaner or just be naysayers who inhibit progress on any front but their own?
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This is ridiculous! Perhaps you should point out what the challenges are to creating clean coal. Carbon capture is happening now and could come to the US if there is enough political will.
The true oxymoron here is the "reality campaign" who can't seem to cope with the fact that coal is cleaner every day and getting cleaner all the time. If we invest in the technology CCS could be up and running int he US in 10 years or less. Germany has it now. It's a reality. This campaign lives in the past.
Sorry, brycedub. YOU seem to be missing the point that we already have TRULY clean methods of generating power - like WIND. We don't have to invest anything to make wind "cleaner", it already is. COAL is DIRTY no matter what. You still have to BURN it and do SOMEthing with the waste products. We can invest the same amount of money that we would have to on coal to "make it cleaner" instead on helix wind turbines and have power NOW.
No, I totally understand that wind is clean. Truly clean. But reliable? No. Able to supply baseload power? No. So what do we do? We have to increase the efficiency and environmental safety of the fuel sources that already keep us going and will keep us going. Otherwise our society as we know it will be unsustainable.
Fuck this naysaying bullshit.
Naxwell 3 years ago
I keep a lovely lump of coal in my living room. It's quite clean actually. Don't believe what you hear :O. diamonds come from coal, are diamonds dirty? [-x No.
tooosweeet 3 years ago
FYI, I know former uranium miners in Colorado and Utah, and the energy industry told them it was safe too! In Monticello, Utah, a large portion of the population now has cancer due to energy industry lies about uranium mining and milling!
frederickus 2 years ago
"Clean Coal" is the linguistic equivalent of "Dry Water" or "Honest Politicians" or "Ethical Corporations" or "Peaceful Empires" or in justinkk's case, "Informed Citizen" or "Smart Moron"
don3com 3 years ago 2
"It smells good too." :)
Coal = money and jobs
ALSO
Coal = Bad
Of course you can argue that alternative power will create jobs too.
My opinion is that we should start using alternative resources b/c they are RENEWABLE and clean ALREADY without having to make it CLEANER (like coal)
That's why we're stuck and arguing here with Youtube comments. :)
Kathi10123 3 years ago
i cant believe they are wasting money on advertising rather than spending it on renewable CLEAN sources!!
dreamr3j 3 years ago
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go to that. most of you know nothing about coal i'm sure, while most of americans are loosing there jobs, here in east ky we are hirin because of COAL. You cannot take coal out considering it employs half a million ppl
justinkk2005 3 years ago
Just because our economy currently relies on coal doesn't make it right.
No one is proposing to shut down the coal industry by Thursday night.
Governments need to plan for economic diversification and a just transition to sustainable economies. It is possible. It is necessary.
sixde6rees 3 years ago 2
I suggest that you find a job where you won't get black lung!
frederickus 2 years ago
It's horrifying to think that we're still living off of coal technology - and it cannot improve - coal is carbon, no matter how we process it we'll be throwing off the carbon cycle and most likely adding more CO2 to our already overpacked atmosphere. It's true, there is no clean coal - I'd like to believe America's still innovative and determined enough to clean up our act and invest in wind power.
meglet1roo 3 years ago 3
brycedub, there is not a single CCS plant running in the US right now. Reality is trying to show how ridiculous the "Clean Coal - America's Power" ad campaign is. We should invest in proven technologies like wind, CSP (concentrated solar power), geothermal, and explore the potential of algae and other biomass. The idea of "Clean Coal" is a last ditch effort by coal companies to preserve their cash cow for a few more years.
UWrosesdawg 3 years ago 2
I'm a big believer in wind and solar. If my property was large enough I'd install a wind turbine or solar center myself. But I'm also a realist. At the current rate of development wind and solar will only account for less than 10% of our power supply in 20-30 years. What do we do in the meantime? We have to invest in making what we have that works cleaner in the meantime. Everyone should be for clean coal while we work to make other sources more reliable and more available.
brycedub 3 years ago
brycedub,
Pilot plants doing 'bits' of CCS exist (Schwarze Pumpe in Germany stores the CO2 temporarily in cylinders).
To my knowledge no one is expecting commercial coal power with CCS to exist anywhere in the world before 2020, after that fast roll-out looks unfeasible.
CCS must overcome challenges including suitable storage sites within 100km of power stations, cost, proof of no leakage.
The Reality campaign, highlights the 'unreality' of the the Americas Power campaign.
sixde6rees 3 years ago
So I suppose the question is this: does the reality campaign want CCS to succeed or not? It's pretty simple really. You must agree renewables can't replace coal's generating capacity in the next 20-30 years, so the question becomes whether the reality campaign wants to continue discouraging the development of technologies that will make current electricity sources cleaner or just be naysayers who inhibit progress on any front but their own?
brycedub 3 years ago
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This is ridiculous! Perhaps you should point out what the challenges are to creating clean coal. Carbon capture is happening now and could come to the US if there is enough political will.
The true oxymoron here is the "reality campaign" who can't seem to cope with the fact that coal is cleaner every day and getting cleaner all the time. If we invest in the technology CCS could be up and running int he US in 10 years or less. Germany has it now. It's a reality. This campaign lives in the past.
brycedub 3 years ago
Sorry, brycedub. YOU seem to be missing the point that we already have TRULY clean methods of generating power - like WIND. We don't have to invest anything to make wind "cleaner", it already is. COAL is DIRTY no matter what. You still have to BURN it and do SOMEthing with the waste products. We can invest the same amount of money that we would have to on coal to "make it cleaner" instead on helix wind turbines and have power NOW.
ultravioletdivine 3 years ago 4
No, I totally understand that wind is clean. Truly clean. But reliable? No. Able to supply baseload power? No. So what do we do? We have to increase the efficiency and environmental safety of the fuel sources that already keep us going and will keep us going. Otherwise our society as we know it will be unsustainable.
brycedub 3 years ago
heheheh !
lostlyrics 3 years ago