THIS FACT! The Catholic Church has always tried to keep the European as dumb possible. An example of this hiding of truth can be seen in the coverup of the Pedophile Priest and Gays that run the Catholic Church. The Spanish Inquisition, The Crusades, WWI, and WWII, all involve the Catholic Church manipulating, lying to, stealing from, and murdering the people of Europe. WWII is nothing but the Catholic Church and Rothschild using Ashkenazi Khazars(non-Semites/Zionist) for another Crusade.
Piero Marini was a disaster for tradition. All of our beautiful Catholic customes were almost washed away. Thank you Guido Marini for restoring what you could. It is time for the Sedia and perhaps the Flabellum at least on the balcony of St' Peter's when the Pope gives his Blessings. These things should not only be seen in museums. Use them, maybe a bit differently than before, but please, do not leave them behind glass. God Bless.
God bless Monsignor Guido Marini, the cleaning up of all this liberal 60's Vatican II nonsense is long past due, none of the younger generation wants it, only the liberal flakes and hippies who are now dying off. One brick at a time, returning to tradition. Deo Gratias!
This is funny as all heck, but on the serious side he has no hope of making it to the Chair of St. Peter. Those that surround a pope in is lifetime as "priest" and advisers rarely get to step up to the big chair, Thank goodness.
This is funny as all heck, but on the serious side he has no hope of making it to the Chair of St. Peter. Those that surround a pope in is lifetime as "priest" and advisers rarely get to step up to the big chair, Thank goodness.
Marini the elder was a servant of the freemason and Church-destroyer Bugnini who gave us the N.O.-mess. And the younger Marini is an enemy of the real, Latin Mass. So both are essentially equally bad. Replace all these clowns with real priests from FSSPX of FSSP.
who will win the title of new anti-christ? Vatican Idol anyone? oh sorry the Vatican idol is the satanic image of Mary...and sometimes baby"chucky" that she holds in her arms...I saw the Pope bow down in front of a statue of Mary and pray to it and then gave it a gold rose...its a man-made piece of stone you idiot!!! Please pick up your bibles and read "come out of her" before its too late!!!
@vonshlizong Catholics don't pray to statues and they don't worship Mary. Maybe you should do a little research before making an absolute fool of yourself? Honestly, these are the two oldest misconceptions of the Roman Catholic religion, and it's so exhausting to explain it over and over again to individuals who obviously don't care what the truth is and are perfectly content to not learn anything new. You have an internent connection, so how about giving it the old college try?
@vonshlizong ---you sir are a liar! I saw the Pope bow down to a statue of Mary(aka Satan) just a few weeks ago on live tv from Spain and then after praying to her he gave her a solid gold rose as a gift...you need to know what you are talking about. The Catholics say that Mary is an intercessor this is totally un-biblical, only Yeshua is the intercessor to YHWH. I will gladly debate you anytime on the facts of the Catholic church and show you how they are the ANTI-CHRIST! READ YOU'RE BIBLE!
@PandaMishima there is a huge difference in respect and bowing down to worship like the Pope has done numerous times.also the Bible says there is one mediator between man and YHWH.that would be Yahshua. no matter what you Catholics say you cannot back it up biblically.everything I say,I can. Catholics worship idols,say repetetive prayers, don't keep the sabbath,call men"father', graven images abound and so on. all of which is prohibated by God.if not, please show me the scriptures ...YOU CAN'T!
@vonshlizong Well the premise is basically flawed because in the first place, where in the Bible can you prove that the Bible is the ONLY source of truth about Christian Faith? Hahahaha! You won't find anything there! Because Sola Scriptura is a man-made tradition -- an innovation of Luther! Protestants follow the tradition of men! Hahahhaha
@sashafiercebiatch . here is one place---> Proverbs 30:5-6, "Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. Do not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar." The purity of His words does not need anything added to it. God warns us not to misrepresent His scripture.
@vonshlizong Hahahaha then why does the Bible also say:
Romans 10:17 "Consequently, faith comes from hearing (not reading) the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ."
1 Thes 2:13 "And we also thank God continually because, when you received the word of God, which you heard(not read from the Bible) from us, you accepted it not as the word of men, but as it actually is, the word of God, which is at work in you who believe.
@vonshlizong 2 Timothy 1:13 "What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus. "
Mal 2:7 "7 "For the lips of a priest ought to preserve knowledge, and from his mouth men should seek instruction—because he is the messenger of the LORD Almighty."
@vonshlizong Where does in this passage say that the BIBLE ALONE IS SUFFICIENT? NONE. IT SAYS ABOUT THE WORD OF GOD which of course you which of course begs the question that the WORD of GOD ONLY COMES TO US THROUGH THE BIBLE (see related verses). Hahahahaha
@sashafiercebiatch--how about this one?----> Revelation 22:18-19, "For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
@vonshlizong Revelation 22:18-19 refers to the book of Revelations alone. It could not possibly be implying the Holy Bible, because it mentions “in this prophecy”. Furthermore, the book of Revelations was added to the Holy Bible in the 4th century for the first time. And what is more important, John’s Epistles II and III were written in 98 A.D., two years after the book of Revelations! If this verse therefore implies all of the Bible books, then they too would have to be left out of the Bible.
@sashafiercebiatch ----what about all the others? i was giving numerous examples from throughout the Bible refuting your statement that the Bible alone is sufficient...and i clearly made my point that you don't know what your talking about.
@vonshlizong Did you read all my previous posts? Please click page 2 of this video post. You might have missed some of them. I clearly refuted your claim that Sola Scriptura is in the Bible. But then again, it may also be that no amount of refutation and explanation can convince you out of your heresy because you have a hard heart. Let me ask a corollary issue, where in the Bible can you find the index of scriptures that are contained in the Bible? Answer: None.
@vonshlizong The canon of the Scriptures came to us outside the Bible; from an Infallible source which decided which books are inspired by the Holy Spirit: the Church.
@sashafiercebiatch----- or this one---> 2 Timothy 3:16-17 it reads "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." ITS APPARENT YOU KNOW NOTHING OF TRUE CHRISTIANITY AND YOU DONT KNOW THE BIBLE--YOU MERELY LISTEN TO THE SATANIC ANTICHRIST CATHOLIC DOCTRINES---READ YOUR BIBLE!!!!
@vonshlizong The conclusion drawn is that 2 Timothy 3:16-17 teaches that the Bible is sufficient in all matters of Christian doctrine and practice because it will make the man of God equipped for "every good work."
@vonshlizong He alludes to this oral teaching two verses earlier: "But you, remain faithful to what you have learned and believed, because you know from whom you learned it" (3:14). I
@vonshlizong In 2 Timothy 2:15 Paul advises Timothy to "rightly divide the word of truth." Contrary to the common Protestant assumption, the phrase "word of truth" is not restricted to Scripture alone, but includes oral tradition as well. For example, in Ephesians 1:13 end Colossians 1:5 "the word of truth" refers specifically to Apostolic Tradition, not Scripture.
@vonshlizong Yes Christ is the only mediator between humanity and God the Father, but Mary is the mediator between Christ and humanity, you ignorant beast!
@sashafiercebiatch ---Where does it say that Mary is anything but a dead woman...???? what book? what chapter? what verse...??? Torah? dead sea scrolls? new testamant? please elaborate......
Agni2003, don't let of these people drive you away. I think this is a splendid video, done in the spirit of good-natured fun, the contrast of the two Marinis, and the song is perfect.
I may be a Protestant, but I respect the True Faith.
FYI, I was raised a Unitarian, went to a Baptist high school where I was born again, went to a Quaker college where I studied Buddhism. I'm dying to see what you have in mind. :P
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I anonit you with thy holy water from the thy holy rod,I smear this water aross thous forhead and bring the unity of Christ who saved us from our sins amen!
if I remember correctly this is not the first time you accuse me of inciting hatred against Archbishop Marini......and I already told you that if you read my description and other posts around you will see this is absolutely false!
with regards to arguing, you can rest assured that it won't happen on my discussion board
@dolcezzaprima Msr. Piero Marini is a pure modernist, traitor to the CAtholic Church. He almost destroyed the liturgy. Shame on him and God have mercy on his soul.
You don't even know what you are talking about. Shame on yourself for being such an ignorant and gosseper and... you, you SanJuana whatever are the one who need the Lord's mercy... for being so mean... talking like that about a wonderful Archbishop of the Church. Grow up!
@DolcevoltoPM Msr. Piero Marini is a damned classical termite, a mole destroyer of the Holy Catholic church, along with a bunch of high prelates: The enemy within. The friends of the Church are not these rotten (bleeps!!) , but the traditionals. LET US BRING BACK THE HOLY SACRIFICE OF THE HOLY TRIDENTINE MASS!!! VIVAT CHRISTUS REX!!
@DolcevoltoPM Since msr. Archbishop Piero Marini lost his job, due to the awful vestments of Benedict XVI, things have improved 100 %. It is a cause of celebration. He opposed teeth and nails the Tridentine Mass, the Mass of the Ages, being a product of the modernist posconciliar church. Just remember that Judas betrayed our Lord, and the Judases of the world just keep coming. Sorry you took the wrong side.
I just returnded from angels and demons before I recived your comment,all though it was fiction the way they covered up the murders to the puplic has the same refrences as to them enaballing thoses pedo priests,
Enjoy looking up to your Nazi Pope Rottwiler to fill the voids in your lifes.
Yes it may look beutiful,but all the money and wealth in it would make you feel phisically ill.
Also I was on a family hoaday in Rio De Ginero and some of the biggest Catholic Churches are there and most people in that city are just holding on to survive.
What is so special about The Church of Shame that you can't just remain a Protestant!.
I have not been to the Vatican, but wish to go very much.
My reasons for staying on the Protestants' side of the Tiber are largely twofold, the souls of animals, and the business of birth control, keeping souls from being born into unhappy homes, even as I abhor abortion.
Who is to say the Protestants can't be worse, for I know we can.
I would never think ever about what you said.. If the Roman Church has survived for over 2000 years... then it will suddenly stop.. no that will not surely happen.
Before you post any comment, please do try to look about for anything that will support or falsify your statement. Thank you!
Ya think huh? Well tell you what...take a look at the HUNDREDS of parishes and schools closing throughout states along with the MILLIONS paid out in child sexual abuse settlements. Combine that with the fact that the EU no longer cares what some guy in Rome says. IF the Church survives, it will be in Africa. They can have it. It's corrupt to the very core. How the hell can a church be anti-gay when it is FULL of gay men all the way to the top including Popes????
I think that is the result of MODERNISM.... that utmost enemy, "the silent apostasy", as said by the late John Paul II the Great, and as called "smoke of evil coming from a fissure in the Church", as by Pope Benedict.
okay, you believe what you want as your are intitled too. The church will be gone soon and you'll have to adjust then. There was nothing great about JPll either. Now JPl, that's another matter. The juries in on the Nazi Pope.
I think if JPII worked in a cyanide factory, he worked, because he is only forced. (and that was the only job with the salary good enough to support his underground seminary training)
BXVI did not work in Nazi times, and in fact, when he was in the war, he did not work in any soldiers camp or anything. So we could not call him "nazi" only "german"
If the Church survived for 2000 years, I think it will still find a way to let itself grow, that is why the hermeneutics of continuity is taken into practice by BXVI, to seal the problems Modernism and sometimes Vatican 2 tried to destroy
The curia are tiring of his constant fumbles, mistakes, and just plain moronic behavior. He has went from one scandal to another. If you can't see that, the curia can.
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The Church as institution should be forbidden! All corrupt people who think tey can judge over other! That isn't Christianity! Yet still have and more of the worlds population lives in poverty, has hunger,....and the Church keeps on going showing their money and wealth to everyone who wants to see it. God will judge these people and I hope it isn't a good judgement (I'm pretty sure of it)
I will not tolerate offense against the Servant of God John Paul II or any duly appointed Bishop of the Holy Roman Catholic Church. So watch your language!
Il Signore ha liberato il suo Servo fedele Benedetto XVI, dalle orrende liturgie del venerato Arcivescovo Piero Mons. Marini, per questo, cari fratelli e sorelle, intoniamo l'inno di ringraziamento al Signore della bellezza, il canto del TE DEUMMMMMMMMMM!!!! hahahahahahha W Monsignor Guido MARINI!
Thank God Piero Marini is a goner. He did a truly lousy job. He is leaving the holy liturgy in shambles, and it was about time he got DA BOOT. Welcome Msr. Guido Marini, I hope he cleans up the mess.
Die neuen Gewänder des Papstes sind häßlich- die Spitzen am Rochette des neuen Zeremoniars entsetzlich- pseudotridentinisch; wer fertigt das an? Oder sind die Teile aus Fellinis "Roma"? Beide, also Papst und neuer Zeremoniar sehen aus wie Karikaturen. Karl Borromäus würde sicherlich einen Schreikrampf bekommen. Echt schlecht beraten! Im Käfig voller Narren ein Ehrenplatz!!Wickelt Euch die Manipel um den Kopf und spielt Blinde Kuh in der Terza Loggia!!
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Topless aborigen women scantly clad in several african countries, plus australian aborigenes brought from deep in the jungle appeared in several ¨masses¨, for the sake of inculturation , rated R!!!
Respectfully, mydivinelover, I'm originally from the UK but have also lived in Canada and now the US. I have witnessed myself that Canada's own share of silly Masses. If Catholics are sincere in their desire to understand the genesis of clown Masses and other blasphemies, an indispensable read is "The Rhine Flows into the Tiber" by Fr. Ralph M. Siltgen, S.V.D. published by TAN. "The Heresy of Formlessness" is a good companion to Fr. Siltgen's book.
Everything was good about Arch.Marini. He knew about Liturgy , had style,dignity, love and dedication to the Church and the Pope. He was/is kind , warm and approchable. I don't agree with the new MC. He wants "to be different" and is rushing too much changing everything his predecesor did, even the pallium , giving extrange interviews
Arch Marini knew nothing about liturgy. He masses were terrible. Thank God he is gone. He was stuck in the past. As a young Catholic I want my Church to go back to its tradation, to have a continuity with the church of 1000+ years ago. 'If the way we celebrated Mass for almost two millenia was good for the numerous saints, why shouldn't it be good for Catholics in this day and age?'
It is indeed time that the Mass of St. Pope Pius V be celebrated "commonly" in all parishes. So says Cardinal C. Hoyos "whose words are the pope's" according to the Holy Father. Something which was "right" & recognisable for nearly 2000 years could not suddenly become "wrong". In his wisdom, the Holy Father chose a new MC. As Catholics we must not ask 'why', but rather say 'credo'. I trust the pope's judgment. He must have had good reason to retire Marini, although I do not presume to know it.
The only clown here is YOU . Have more respect for a priest/ bishop who is an excellant human being and has a big love for the Most Blessed Sacrament.
Just beacuse you are out of touch with the real teachings of Christ ?
People like you and your comments are the one responsible for loosing the dignity in the Holy Catholic Church.
Ah... but those comments speak all about yourself and your "bunch" not about Arch. Marini.
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This guy was the harlot of the infamous Annibale Bugnini, "the destroyer" of the Mass of all times, evil people in the Roman curia, calling foul to the fair and fair to the foul, I am talking with facts, this is a liturgical criminal, a liturgical abuser and should put at the stake, with all his minions. GLORY BE TO GOD!! Heaven 1 Hell 0!
Yes, I hope too that God forgives them , but like Judas who is burning in Hell, they betrayed Our Lord and our dear church is in such a deplorable state, they have done much harm with this wave of "inculturation", shamans, witch doctors, clown masses, cowboy and halloween masses, God bless Pope Benedict XVI for this welcome change.
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what was good about piero marini was that he wasnt a stuck weirdo like the new master of ceremonies... guido marini is a strange man who seems to want to backtrack any progress made within the church over the past 10 years to make known his own ambitions(which are mysterious and strange)
What you call backtrack many call continuity with lost Catholic beauty. What's wrong with beautiful vestments? With lace albs? With inspiring and beautiful chasubles? With papal thrones? With the crucifix in the traditional position with the seventh candle beside it and three candles on the left and right side of the crucifix? This was the way Mass was conducted for so long, Msgr Marini's views are much more inline with Pope Benedict's views (one only needs to read "The Spirit of the Liturgy").
The Second Vatican Council has been wrongly interpreted by so many, remember the words of Pope St Pius X when he said "The friends of the people are neither revolutionaries, nor innovators: they are traditionalists." If the way we celebrated Mass for almost two millenia was good for the numerous saints, why shouldn't it be good for Catholics in this day and age? Can you see St. Pius X or any other saints saying Mass with novelties? Everything beautiful item and practice used at Mass is our best.
We have beautiful practices and vestments to inspire us, to elevate our souls directly to the Lord, and also to give glory to God. The Catholic faith is not meant to be stuck in one particular time, not meant to be mutilated with sub standard elements that corrupt the the Mass, it needs to be a true expression of our faith with the timeless practices that kept the saints nourished. The Church stands for all time, and the traditional practices illustrate this very clearly.
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God doesn't judge us by our clothes but by our hearts. Jesus didn't say that at the last judgment he will ask what you wore during mass but what did you do for the poor and needy brothers in this world.
lets not get lost in the secondary aspects of our faith.
But what you choose to wear, how you choose to appear, is that not representative your inner disposition regarding the event attended? I wear trashy clothes for mowing the lawn. I wear a suit when I testify in court... so...
And isn't there reference in the Bible to some slob who came to a wedding feast inappropriately attired & was subsequently tossed into the night 'where there was lamentation and nashing of teeth'?
Not a secondary aspect of faith; a picture of the soul's attitude.
Dressing up properly and overdressing are not the same thing. All that gold and brocade and what have you, somehow doesn't seem to represent Jesus. It represents power, pomp, and self-importance,IMHO. It is neither humble nor spiritual. I cannot imagine Jesus ever looking like the pope.
I think, in the story of the wedding feast you're referring to the person who wasn't dressed properly might be someone who doesn't live like a Christian.
Yeah you are right,Benidict is now more interested in killing black Africans by telling that contraception does not help aids.A cult Nazi organisation!.
I worked with Piero when he was new to the ceremonies department. He was quite handsome and fun-loving. He did not speak English in those days, and I will never forget the day in St Peter's before a papal mass when we taught him to say "fucker" without telling him what it meant.
y extraño muchisimo mons. Pierro Marini
hdsmau12 1 month ago
Are these two Marini's related in any way?
2468HOTROD 1 month ago
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THIS FACT! The Catholic Church has always tried to keep the European as dumb possible. An example of this hiding of truth can be seen in the coverup of the Pedophile Priest and Gays that run the Catholic Church. The Spanish Inquisition, The Crusades, WWI, and WWII, all involve the Catholic Church manipulating, lying to, stealing from, and murdering the people of Europe. WWII is nothing but the Catholic Church and Rothschild using Ashkenazi Khazars(non-Semites/Zionist) for another Crusade.
Born2Flesh 7 months ago
Somewhere in deep Heaven Aslan is chuckling...
MsPandaRosa 9 months ago
The idea of comparing the two is very good... but the title is ridiculous. I suggest you change it.
perrebr 11 months ago
What a bunch of nuts... ha, ha. This is ridiculous!
Trads? rats?
DolcevoltoPM 1 year ago
Piero Marini was a disaster for tradition. All of our beautiful Catholic customes were almost washed away. Thank you Guido Marini for restoring what you could. It is time for the Sedia and perhaps the Flabellum at least on the balcony of St' Peter's when the Pope gives his Blessings. These things should not only be seen in museums. Use them, maybe a bit differently than before, but please, do not leave them behind glass. God Bless.
SanLUZARDO 1 year ago
Monsignor Marini is doing a great job!
maple1212 1 year ago 2
Also Monsignor Marini please restore the Holy Father's Tiara which Montini sold to the UN. Return the Pope's Crown now!
SaintJude3322 1 year ago 4
God bless Monsignor Guido Marini, the cleaning up of all this liberal 60's Vatican II nonsense is long past due, none of the younger generation wants it, only the liberal flakes and hippies who are now dying off. One brick at a time, returning to tradition. Deo Gratias!
SaintJude3322 1 year ago 7
are they related ? like a nephew or something. nepotism.?
singapore7773 1 year ago
@singapore7773 They are not related.
MadonnaCorleone 1 year ago
@MadonnaCorleone thanks very interesting. is this marini a common name in italia? I know nothing about italy. thanks again
singapore7773 1 year ago
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Whats your point? You are showing images of human emotion.
SolarWinds63 1 year ago
The older Marini was awful
mburns8395 1 year ago
so there are two marini's?
TheProudAmerican777 1 year ago
The more I watch this, the better it gets.
Why oh why was I not born a Catholic :-)
PandaMishima 1 year ago
@PandaMishima converts make the best catholics
singapore7773 1 year ago
This is funny as all heck, but on the serious side he has no hope of making it to the Chair of St. Peter. Those that surround a pope in is lifetime as "priest" and advisers rarely get to step up to the big chair, Thank goodness.
antonioscrit 1 year ago
This is funny as all heck, but on the serious side he has no hope of making it to the Chair of St. Peter. Those that surround a pope in is lifetime as "priest" and advisers rarely get to step up to the big chair, Thank goodness.
antonioscrit 1 year ago
Marini the elder was a servant of the freemason and Church-destroyer Bugnini who gave us the N.O.-mess. And the younger Marini is an enemy of the real, Latin Mass. So both are essentially equally bad. Replace all these clowns with real priests from FSSPX of FSSP.
Eskadron22 1 year ago
When will we see the triple tiara?
IMPERIUMMEX 1 year ago
@IMPERIUMMEX I don't know, but I hope the tiara and the sedia geastatoria make a comeback, and soon!
TenderTrap86 1 year ago
who will win the title of new anti-christ? Vatican Idol anyone? oh sorry the Vatican idol is the satanic image of Mary...and sometimes baby"chucky" that she holds in her arms...I saw the Pope bow down in front of a statue of Mary and pray to it and then gave it a gold rose...its a man-made piece of stone you idiot!!! Please pick up your bibles and read "come out of her" before its too late!!!
vonshlizong 1 year ago
@vonshlizong Catholics don't pray to statues and they don't worship Mary. Maybe you should do a little research before making an absolute fool of yourself? Honestly, these are the two oldest misconceptions of the Roman Catholic religion, and it's so exhausting to explain it over and over again to individuals who obviously don't care what the truth is and are perfectly content to not learn anything new. You have an internent connection, so how about giving it the old college try?
TenderTrap86 1 year ago
@vonshlizong ---you sir are a liar! I saw the Pope bow down to a statue of Mary(aka Satan) just a few weeks ago on live tv from Spain and then after praying to her he gave her a solid gold rose as a gift...you need to know what you are talking about. The Catholics say that Mary is an intercessor this is totally un-biblical, only Yeshua is the intercessor to YHWH. I will gladly debate you anytime on the facts of the Catholic church and show you how they are the ANTI-CHRIST! READ YOU'RE BIBLE!
vonshlizong 1 year ago
@vonshlizong
They say, if you really want to speak to a man, first be kind to his mother.
PandaMishima 1 year ago
@PandaMishima "THEY SAY"??? WHO is they? I go by what the Bible says!
vonshlizong 1 year ago
@vonshlizong
Well, Christ Himself respected His own Mother.
PandaMishima 1 year ago
@PandaMishima there is a huge difference in respect and bowing down to worship like the Pope has done numerous times.also the Bible says there is one mediator between man and YHWH.that would be Yahshua. no matter what you Catholics say you cannot back it up biblically.everything I say,I can. Catholics worship idols,say repetetive prayers, don't keep the sabbath,call men"father', graven images abound and so on. all of which is prohibated by God.if not, please show me the scriptures ...YOU CAN'T!
vonshlizong 1 year ago
@vonshlizong Well the premise is basically flawed because in the first place, where in the Bible can you prove that the Bible is the ONLY source of truth about Christian Faith? Hahahaha! You won't find anything there! Because Sola Scriptura is a man-made tradition -- an innovation of Luther! Protestants follow the tradition of men! Hahahhaha
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@sashafiercebiatch . here is one place---> Proverbs 30:5-6, "Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. Do not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar." The purity of His words does not need anything added to it. God warns us not to misrepresent His scripture.
vonshlizong 1 year ago
@vonshlizong Hahahaha then why does the Bible also say:
Romans 10:17 "Consequently, faith comes from hearing (not reading) the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ."
1 Thes 2:13 "And we also thank God continually because, when you received the word of God, which you heard(not read from the Bible) from us, you accepted it not as the word of men, but as it actually is, the word of God, which is at work in you who believe.
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@sashafiercebiatch First, with regard to what Scripture says about itself, 2 Timothy
3:16-17 merely says that Scripture is ophelimos, which means
"useful" or "profitable." Paul's use of the Greek terms artios
("suitable" or "correct") and exartismenos ("having been
furnished") does not imply the sufficiency of Scripture, on purely
lexical grounds.
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@vonshlizong 2 Timothy 1:13 "What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus. "
Mal 2:7 "7 "For the lips of a priest ought to preserve knowledge, and from his mouth men should seek instruction—because he is the messenger of the LORD Almighty."
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@vonshlizong Acts 15:27 "Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing."
2 Thes 2:15 "So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter."
GO READ YOUR BIBLE Hahhahaa
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@vonshlizong Where does in this passage say that the BIBLE ALONE IS SUFFICIENT? NONE. IT SAYS ABOUT THE WORD OF GOD which of course you which of course begs the question that the WORD of GOD ONLY COMES TO US THROUGH THE BIBLE (see related verses). Hahahahaha
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
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@sashafiercebiatch--how about this one?----> Revelation 22:18-19, "For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
vonshlizong 1 year ago
@vonshlizong Revelation 22:18-19 refers to the book of Revelations alone. It could not possibly be implying the Holy Bible, because it mentions “in this prophecy”. Furthermore, the book of Revelations was added to the Holy Bible in the 4th century for the first time. And what is more important, John’s Epistles II and III were written in 98 A.D., two years after the book of Revelations! If this verse therefore implies all of the Bible books, then they too would have to be left out of the Bible.
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@sashafiercebiatch ----what about all the others? i was giving numerous examples from throughout the Bible refuting your statement that the Bible alone is sufficient...and i clearly made my point that you don't know what your talking about.
vonshlizong 1 year ago
@vonshlizong Did you read all my previous posts? Please click page 2 of this video post. You might have missed some of them. I clearly refuted your claim that Sola Scriptura is in the Bible. But then again, it may also be that no amount of refutation and explanation can convince you out of your heresy because you have a hard heart. Let me ask a corollary issue, where in the Bible can you find the index of scriptures that are contained in the Bible? Answer: None.
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@vonshlizong The canon of the Scriptures came to us outside the Bible; from an Infallible source which decided which books are inspired by the Holy Spirit: the Church.
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@sashafiercebiatch amen
singapore7773 1 year ago
@sashafiercebiatch----- or this one---> 2 Timothy 3:16-17 it reads "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." ITS APPARENT YOU KNOW NOTHING OF TRUE CHRISTIANITY AND YOU DONT KNOW THE BIBLE--YOU MERELY LISTEN TO THE SATANIC ANTICHRIST CATHOLIC DOCTRINES---READ YOUR BIBLE!!!!
vonshlizong 1 year ago
@vonshlizong 2 Timothy 3:1 6- 17,
yet this passage is a minefield of difficulties for "sola
scriptura". Here Paul tells his young episcopal protege, Timothy,
that "All scripture is inspired by God (Greek: "theopneustos" =
"God breathed") and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for
correction, and for training in righteousness, so that the man of
God may be competent, equipped for every good work."
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@vonshlizong The conclusion drawn is that 2 Timothy 3:16-17 teaches that the Bible is sufficient in all matters of Christian doctrine and practice because it will make the man of God equipped for "every good work."
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@vonshlizong But notice the Greek, pasa graphe theopneustos. This means
"each" or "every" Scripture is inspired. This complicates matters
further for Protestants. For if Paul is pointing to sufficiency in
this passage, he's designated each book of Scripture as sufficient
in itself for the tasks he goes on to outline. But that of course
is not what Paul is saying.
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@vonshlizong There's also the lexical argument based on the Greek of 2 Timothy
which argues that because Scripture will make the man of God
"artios" (suitable) and "exartizo" (thoroughly furnished), it
therefore is sufficient. But this argument fails for several
reasons.
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@vonshlizong Although some Greek scholars note that artios
and exartizo could mean sufficient, we must do our best to
understand their actual meaning based on the context of the
passage.A telling fact is that no major Bible translation, not
even those produced by the most ardent supporters of sola
scriptura, renders either artios or exartismenos
"sufficient." Furthermore, the "sufficiency" hermeneutic
Protestants use in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 fails when applied to similar
passages.
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@vonshlizong The context of this epistle is Paul's general instructions to
Timothy on how to be a holy and pastorally effective bishop.
Besides Scripture, Paul appeals to oral tradition (as he does in
other epistles) as a source for apostolic doctrine "what you have
heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who
will be able to teach others also" (2:2; cf. 1 Cor. 11:2; 2 Thess.
2:15).
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@vonshlizong He alludes to this oral teaching two verses earlier: "But you, remain faithful to what you have learned and believed, because you know from whom you learned it" (3:14). I
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@vonshlizong In 2 Timothy 2:15 Paul advises Timothy to "rightly divide the word of truth." Contrary to the common Protestant assumption, the phrase "word of truth" is not restricted to Scripture alone, but includes oral tradition as well. For example, in Ephesians 1:13 end Colossians 1:5 "the word of truth" refers specifically to Apostolic Tradition, not Scripture.
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@vonshlizong Yes Christ is the only mediator between humanity and God the Father, but Mary is the mediator between Christ and humanity, you ignorant beast!
sashafiercebiatch 1 year ago
@sashafiercebiatch ---Where does it say that Mary is anything but a dead woman...???? what book? what chapter? what verse...??? Torah? dead sea scrolls? new testamant? please elaborate......
vonshlizong 1 year ago
The search for papal master of ceremonies!!!
the contestants: Monsignor Marini vs. Archbishop Marini!?
who will win??!! marini or marini?? confusing!
JANELLA911 1 year ago
The Search for the Papal Master of Ceremonies!
introducing:
Msgr. Guido Marini vs. Marini!?
JANELLA911 1 year ago
Oremus pro Beatissimo Papa Nostro Benedicto XVI!
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CaeremonialeRomanvm 1 year ago
Just chanced upon this. Well done, Agni.
Still miss your Msgr Georg vid that got took down
maggijude 1 year ago
@maggijude thank you I'm glad you liked it.....I kind of gave up on the idea of reposting the Msgr Georg video!
agni2003 1 year ago
It's about time Rome came back to its senses. I am edified!!!
queeng1998 1 year ago
Msg Guido is by far better than Piero!!! More Power to you Msg Guido Marini
ricky1986able 2 years ago
Great men as the blurb says in their own way!
God bless them both!
coh12520 2 years ago 5
No, no, no!! Piero has Hell to pay, for the hideous blue
costume he put on Benedict XVI. He almost destroyed the
liturgy.
ixtoc999 2 years ago
@ixtoc999
Not Hell, but at least Purgatory! Put him in charge of the laundry for the same amount of time he served, and hang up everything with clothespins ;-)
PandaMishima 1 year ago
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What a pack of fucking peasants.
If Marini wins, do the others get to keep the altar boys or will he keep them for himself?
MovingToNorway 2 years ago
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xipe02 2 years ago
I bet you were raped as a child.
xipe02 2 years ago
@xipe02
I certainly hope not!
PandaMishima 1 year ago
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This is a circus, a show in the flesh, philosophy of men.
Denying the Bible! A corrupt religion!
missionoc 2 years ago
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This is circus, a show in the flesh, philosophy of men! Denying the bible! A corrupt religion!
missionoc 2 years ago
How is it denying the Bible?
PandaMishima 2 years ago
Agni2003, don't let of these people drive you away. I think this is a splendid video, done in the spirit of good-natured fun, the contrast of the two Marinis, and the song is perfect.
I may be a Protestant, but I respect the True Faith.
PandaMishima 2 years ago 5
Thank you for the support.....funny how a Protestant has to defend a Catholic from another Catholic!
agni2003 2 years ago
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You are welcome to visit my Church boy,I will perform a Catholic Baptism and lead you to the rightious path!
FatherPedophile 2 years ago
FYI, I was raised a Unitarian, went to a Baptist high school where I was born again, went to a Quaker college where I studied Buddhism. I'm dying to see what you have in mind. :P
PandaMishima 2 years ago
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I anonit you with thy holy water from the thy holy rod,I smear this water aross thous forhead and bring the unity of Christ who saved us from our sins amen!
FatherPedophile 2 years ago
I was sprinkled as an infant and dunked as a teen. You better be serious about this.
PandaMishima 2 years ago
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xipe02 2 years ago
We want Archbishop Marini back, the real Maestro !!!
If you remove this post again it will show what you are...
dolcezzaprima 2 years ago 2
what do you mean "it will show what you are"? I am not going to remove your post because it is a respectful opinion, and you know that!
I told you 1 million times that I deeply respect Archbishop Marini, read my description of the video before posting stupid accusations
"It is dedicated to both the Marinis who in their own ways serve and keep serving with great devotion the Church. "
agni2003 2 years ago
told me a million times ? when and where ?
Stupid accusations ? speak for yourself my dear.
By the way is you want to argue look for someone else...
dolcezzaprima 2 years ago
if I remember correctly this is not the first time you accuse me of inciting hatred against Archbishop Marini......and I already told you that if you read my description and other posts around you will see this is absolutely false!
with regards to arguing, you can rest assured that it won't happen on my discussion board
agni2003 2 years ago
@dolcezzaprima Msr. Piero Marini is a pure modernist, traitor to the CAtholic Church. He almost destroyed the liturgy. Shame on him and God have mercy on his soul.
SanJuana1985 1 year ago
@SanJuana1985
You don't even know what you are talking about. Shame on yourself for being such an ignorant and gosseper and... you, you SanJuana whatever are the one who need the Lord's mercy... for being so mean... talking like that about a wonderful Archbishop of the Church. Grow up!
DolcevoltoPM 1 year ago
@DolcevoltoPM Msr. Piero Marini is a damned classical termite, a mole destroyer of the Holy Catholic church, along with a bunch of high prelates: The enemy within. The friends of the Church are not these rotten (bleeps!!) , but the traditionals. LET US BRING BACK THE HOLY SACRIFICE OF THE HOLY TRIDENTINE MASS!!! VIVAT CHRISTUS REX!!
SanJuana1985 1 year ago
@DolcevoltoPM Since msr. Archbishop Piero Marini lost his job, due to the awful vestments of Benedict XVI, things have improved 100 %. It is a cause of celebration. He opposed teeth and nails the Tridentine Mass, the Mass of the Ages, being a product of the modernist posconciliar church. Just remember that Judas betrayed our Lord, and the Judases of the world just keep coming. Sorry you took the wrong side.
xipe02 1 year ago
LONG LIVE THE POPE
asUboi2005 2 years ago 15
What you say makes a great deal of sense. FWiW, I need your prayers, as I'm still Protestant, Presbyterian to be exact.
PandaMishima 2 years ago
I just returnded from angels and demons before I recived your comment,all though it was fiction the way they covered up the murders to the puplic has the same refrences as to them enaballing thoses pedo priests,
Enjoy looking up to your Nazi Pope Rottwiler to fill the voids in your lifes.
cossyb7c7 2 years ago
The Blessed Papa Benedict fills a major void in my life, and I am still a Protestant.
PandaMishima 2 years ago
Even if cats were gods in Egypt, I think it is still a way for the Pope to remember his place.. it is still human instinct who wins.
kiapoksmonster 2 years ago
God gave us dogs to show us unconditional love.
God gave us cats to make us humble.
After all, Benedict can proclaim, I am the Pope! all he wants, and any proper cat will reply, Okay, and isn't it time to feed me?
It is true we humans have the thumbs.
PandaMishima 2 years ago
Have you ever been to the Vatican,I have?
Yes it may look beutiful,but all the money and wealth in it would make you feel phisically ill.
Also I was on a family hoaday in Rio De Ginero and some of the biggest Catholic Churches are there and most people in that city are just holding on to survive.
What is so special about The Church of Shame that you can't just remain a Protestant!.
cossyb7c7 2 years ago
It is the True Faith.
I have not been to the Vatican, but wish to go very much.
My reasons for staying on the Protestants' side of the Tiber are largely twofold, the souls of animals, and the business of birth control, keeping souls from being born into unhappy homes, even as I abhor abortion.
Who is to say the Protestants can't be worse, for I know we can.
John Paul II, Santo Subito.
PandaMishima 2 years ago
I think the Pope has lavished care on the cats, because in Germany, there have been some cats still on his house.
kiapoksmonster 2 years ago
It's a good bet that the Roman Church will not even be around anymore in about fifty years.
osjb 2 years ago
I would never think ever about what you said.. If the Roman Church has survived for over 2000 years... then it will suddenly stop.. no that will not surely happen.
Before you post any comment, please do try to look about for anything that will support or falsify your statement. Thank you!
kiapoksmonster 2 years ago 2
Ya think huh? Well tell you what...take a look at the HUNDREDS of parishes and schools closing throughout states along with the MILLIONS paid out in child sexual abuse settlements. Combine that with the fact that the EU no longer cares what some guy in Rome says. IF the Church survives, it will be in Africa. They can have it. It's corrupt to the very core. How the hell can a church be anti-gay when it is FULL of gay men all the way to the top including Popes????
osjb 2 years ago
I think that is the result of MODERNISM.... that utmost enemy, "the silent apostasy", as said by the late John Paul II the Great, and as called "smoke of evil coming from a fissure in the Church", as by Pope Benedict.
kiapoksmonster 2 years ago
okay, you believe what you want as your are intitled too. The church will be gone soon and you'll have to adjust then. There was nothing great about JPll either. Now JPl, that's another matter. The juries in on the Nazi Pope.
osjb 2 years ago
I think if JPII worked in a cyanide factory, he worked, because he is only forced. (and that was the only job with the salary good enough to support his underground seminary training)
BXVI- I think
kiapoksmonster 2 years ago
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BXVI did not work in Nazi times, and in fact, when he was in the war, he did not work in any soldiers camp or anything. So we could not call him "nazi" only "german"
If the Church survived for 2000 years, I think it will still find a way to let itself grow, that is why the hermeneutics of continuity is taken into practice by BXVI, to seal the problems Modernism and sometimes Vatican 2 tried to destroy
kiapoksmonster 2 years ago
Long Live His Holiness! Long Live Benedict!
CSSailor1863 2 years ago
LONG LIVE THE POPE BENEDICTUS XVI
angelotrikala 2 years ago 3
it's really a shame the amount of destruction this bozo pope is heaping upon the world. Even the Vatican insiders are saying he is a disaster.
osjb 2 years ago
LONG LIVE THE POPE BENEDICTUS XVI
angelotrikala 2 years ago
Chapter and verse, please.
And please don't just talk about condoms.
PandaMishima 2 years ago
The curia are tiring of his constant fumbles, mistakes, and just plain moronic behavior. He has went from one scandal to another. If you can't see that, the curia can.
osjb 2 years ago
Please tell me exactly what they are.
PandaMishima 2 years ago
NOPE!!! I think all of them considers him as a nice Pope.... even his beloved CATS.
by: a CAT.
kiapoksmonster 2 years ago 3
And who is going to be able to argue with a cat?
Cats were gods in ancient Egypt.
Cats have never forgotten this.
PandaMishima 2 years ago
great!!! keep working
angelotrikala 2 years ago
We Love Guido Marini!!!
cuahymns 3 years ago
This is slanderous at most and uncharitable to say the least.
adamy485 3 years ago
Yes, but it is a fun song!
PandaMishima 3 years ago
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The Church as institution should be forbidden! All corrupt people who think tey can judge over other! That isn't Christianity! Yet still have and more of the worlds population lives in poverty, has hunger,....and the Church keeps on going showing their money and wealth to everyone who wants to see it. God will judge these people and I hope it isn't a good judgement (I'm pretty sure of it)
diederoo 3 years ago
1) Christianity has a hierarchal system: read the New Testament.
2) It's not Christian to hope for someone else's condemnation: kinda hypocritical of you to judge others ;)
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xipe02 2 years ago
I will not tolerate offense against the Servant of God John Paul II or any duly appointed Bishop of the Holy Roman Catholic Church. So watch your language!
agni2003 2 years ago
oh please Mary.....
osjb 2 years ago
Amen to that! and I am not even Catholic.
PandaMishima 2 years ago
Il Signore ha liberato il suo Servo fedele Benedetto XVI, dalle orrende liturgie del venerato Arcivescovo Piero Mons. Marini, per questo, cari fratelli e sorelle, intoniamo l'inno di ringraziamento al Signore della bellezza, il canto del TE DEUMMMMMMMMMM!!!! hahahahahahha W Monsignor Guido MARINI!
Praefectus87 3 years ago
e Sua Eccellenzxa rimane in Vaticano!!!
Sinceramente auspicavo la promozione a Nunzio Apostolico in Antartide...
campane1993 3 years ago
Thank God Piero Marini is a goner. He did a truly lousy job. He is leaving the holy liturgy in shambles, and it was about time he got DA BOOT. Welcome Msr. Guido Marini, I hope he cleans up the mess.
ixtoc999 3 years ago
Deux grands serviteurs de l'Eglise
bzhseat 3 years ago 7
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Viva La Revolución de Monsignor Guido!
starchyp92 3 years ago
Too funny for words!!!!!!!
MaxwellSr 3 years ago 2
Poveri noi che razza di cerimoniere....viva il Concilio Vaticano II
tubettone5 3 years ago 5
Vatican II = sinking of the Titanic
Billyothon 3 years ago
Die neuen Gewänder des Papstes sind häßlich- die Spitzen am Rochette des neuen Zeremoniars entsetzlich- pseudotridentinisch; wer fertigt das an? Oder sind die Teile aus Fellinis "Roma"? Beide, also Papst und neuer Zeremoniar sehen aus wie Karikaturen. Karl Borromäus würde sicherlich einen Schreikrampf bekommen. Echt schlecht beraten! Im Käfig voller Narren ein Ehrenplatz!!Wickelt Euch die Manipel um den Kopf und spielt Blinde Kuh in der Terza Loggia!!
pia47werner 3 years ago
Putting nude dancers in the altars is desecration if not blasphemy. It is a cause of celebration that he gone. He has lots of penance to do.
xipe02 3 years ago
What in the world are you talking about ?
Maybe you will do the penance for defamation
mydivinelover 3 years ago 3
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Topless aborigen women scantly clad in several african countries, plus australian aborigenes brought from deep in the jungle appeared in several ¨masses¨, for the sake of inculturation , rated R!!!
xipe02 3 years ago
While I'd be more on the side of the Mgr. than his Grace in style terms, its about more than stylish vestments folks!!
However, if your going to do traditional, it must be done right.
bangrock121 3 years ago 6
Ringraziamo la Divina Provvidenza anche per il grande dono di Mons. GUIDO Marini, ottimo maestro delle cerimonie pontificie .
Oremus !
AndreaCarradori 3 years ago
Don't blame all those cowboy ,halloween and
clown masses on the wrong person but on the "Judas" ( as you call them ) in the States.
Burning in hell... watch out what you wish for others "ixtoc999" and pray so it doesn't come in your way.
mydivinelover 3 years ago 7
Respectfully, mydivinelover, I'm originally from the UK but have also lived in Canada and now the US. I have witnessed myself that Canada's own share of silly Masses. If Catholics are sincere in their desire to understand the genesis of clown Masses and other blasphemies, an indispensable read is "The Rhine Flows into the Tiber" by Fr. Ralph M. Siltgen, S.V.D. published by TAN. "The Heresy of Formlessness" is a good companion to Fr. Siltgen's book.
Greenleanings 3 years ago
Everything was good about Arch.Marini. He knew about Liturgy , had style,dignity, love and dedication to the Church and the Pope. He was/is kind , warm and approchable. I don't agree with the new MC. He wants "to be different" and is rushing too much changing everything his predecesor did, even the pallium , giving extrange interviews
where he says nothing interesting or new.
Obviously he is being "back up" ?
Is Genoa is taking over the Vatican now ?
mydivinelover 3 years ago 9
Arch Marini knew nothing about liturgy. He masses were terrible. Thank God he is gone. He was stuck in the past. As a young Catholic I want my Church to go back to its tradation, to have a continuity with the church of 1000+ years ago. 'If the way we celebrated Mass for almost two millenia was good for the numerous saints, why shouldn't it be good for Catholics in this day and age?'
mrscully 3 years ago
It is indeed time that the Mass of St. Pope Pius V be celebrated "commonly" in all parishes. So says Cardinal C. Hoyos "whose words are the pope's" according to the Holy Father. Something which was "right" & recognisable for nearly 2000 years could not suddenly become "wrong". In his wisdom, the Holy Father chose a new MC. As Catholics we must not ask 'why', but rather say 'credo'. I trust the pope's judgment. He must have had good reason to retire Marini, although I do not presume to know it.
Greenleanings 3 years ago
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IT TOOK them SOOOO LONG to give da BOOT to this clown, but that´s a good start to recover the dignity of the Holy Catholic Church!!
ixtoc999 3 years ago
The only clown here is YOU . Have more respect for a priest/ bishop who is an excellant human being and has a big love for the Most Blessed Sacrament.
Just beacuse you are out of touch with the real teachings of Christ ?
People like you and your comments are the one responsible for loosing the dignity in the Holy Catholic Church.
Ah... but those comments speak all about yourself and your "bunch" not about Arch. Marini.
mydivinelover 3 years ago 3
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This guy was the harlot of the infamous Annibale Bugnini, "the destroyer" of the Mass of all times, evil people in the Roman curia, calling foul to the fair and fair to the foul, I am talking with facts, this is a liturgical criminal, a liturgical abuser and should put at the stake, with all his minions. GLORY BE TO GOD!! Heaven 1 Hell 0!
ixtoc999 3 years ago
Oh God yo are really a trouble maker and ...it'shard to deal wit people like you .
Again, a would say the only criminal and abuser here is YOU and people like you .
I don'think that with these comments you are giving too much Glory to God .
Father forgive them.....
mydivinelover 3 years ago 8
Yes, I hope too that God forgives them , but like Judas who is burning in Hell, they betrayed Our Lord and our dear church is in such a deplorable state, they have done much harm with this wave of "inculturation", shamans, witch doctors, clown masses, cowboy and halloween masses, God bless Pope Benedict XVI for this welcome change.
ixtoc999 3 years ago
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what was good about piero marini was that he wasnt a stuck weirdo like the new master of ceremonies... guido marini is a strange man who seems to want to backtrack any progress made within the church over the past 10 years to make known his own ambitions(which are mysterious and strange)
MetsgoMetsgo 3 years ago
What you call backtrack many call continuity with lost Catholic beauty. What's wrong with beautiful vestments? With lace albs? With inspiring and beautiful chasubles? With papal thrones? With the crucifix in the traditional position with the seventh candle beside it and three candles on the left and right side of the crucifix? This was the way Mass was conducted for so long, Msgr Marini's views are much more inline with Pope Benedict's views (one only needs to read "The Spirit of the Liturgy").
rpgabc123 3 years ago 2
The Second Vatican Council has been wrongly interpreted by so many, remember the words of Pope St Pius X when he said "The friends of the people are neither revolutionaries, nor innovators: they are traditionalists." If the way we celebrated Mass for almost two millenia was good for the numerous saints, why shouldn't it be good for Catholics in this day and age? Can you see St. Pius X or any other saints saying Mass with novelties? Everything beautiful item and practice used at Mass is our best.
rpgabc123 3 years ago 4
Well said, rpg123.
Greenleanings 3 years ago
We have beautiful practices and vestments to inspire us, to elevate our souls directly to the Lord, and also to give glory to God. The Catholic faith is not meant to be stuck in one particular time, not meant to be mutilated with sub standard elements that corrupt the the Mass, it needs to be a true expression of our faith with the timeless practices that kept the saints nourished. The Church stands for all time, and the traditional practices illustrate this very clearly.
rpgabc123 3 years ago 5
Amen to all the above.
cockfightcoordinator 3 years ago
Thank you and God Bless!
rpgabc123 3 years ago
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God doesn't judge us by our clothes but by our hearts. Jesus didn't say that at the last judgment he will ask what you wore during mass but what did you do for the poor and needy brothers in this world.
lets not get lost in the secondary aspects of our faith.
stennea 3 years ago
But what you choose to wear, how you choose to appear, is that not representative your inner disposition regarding the event attended? I wear trashy clothes for mowing the lawn. I wear a suit when I testify in court... so...
And isn't there reference in the Bible to some slob who came to a wedding feast inappropriately attired & was subsequently tossed into the night 'where there was lamentation and nashing of teeth'?
Not a secondary aspect of faith; a picture of the soul's attitude.
Billyothon 3 years ago 4
Dressing up properly and overdressing are not the same thing. All that gold and brocade and what have you, somehow doesn't seem to represent Jesus. It represents power, pomp, and self-importance,IMHO. It is neither humble nor spiritual. I cannot imagine Jesus ever looking like the pope.
I think, in the story of the wedding feast you're referring to the person who wasn't dressed properly might be someone who doesn't live like a Christian.
stennea 3 years ago
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Were Jesus to come back now, he would burn this "church" to the ground with all of its princesses inside of it.
osjb 2 years ago
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The Church of Rome is a cult,a child molesting cult at that!.
cossyb7c7 2 years ago
That is sooooo 2000!
agni2003 2 years ago
Yeah you are right,Benidict is now more interested in killing black Africans by telling that contraception does not help aids.A cult Nazi organisation!.
cossyb7c7 2 years ago
In this case condoms don't help, go check it out.
PandaMishima 2 years ago
NOPE!!!
kiapoksmonster 2 years ago
I worked with Piero when he was new to the ceremonies department. He was quite handsome and fun-loving. He did not speak English in those days, and I will never forget the day in St Peter's before a papal mass when we taught him to say "fucker" without telling him what it meant.
farmboyz 3 years ago 7
Oooo, you're going to be shoveling the dung in Purgatory for 100 years for that! hee hee
PandaMishima 3 years ago
Speak for yourself, Pandamishima.
Greenleanings 3 years ago
How clever you are, farmboyz.
Greenleanings 3 years ago
Msgr Guido Marini all the way!!!!!!
rpgabc123 3 years ago
All the way back to Genoa...pronto !
dolcezzaprima 2 years ago
I rather would have him burn at the stake, in an auto-da-fe for
heressy!!!
SanJuana1985 2 years ago 4