Thanks for posting this. Any experienced string chamber musician will understand the movements of the players - nothing 'creepy' about it at all! The resolution on my screen is too poor to be certain, but it looks as though they're playing from full scores, rather than individual parts.
I find the actual people playing it excessively creepy at times. When you get the full-view shot around 2:00, they're all wobbling about to this partly dissonant music, it's scary !
its easier and sweeter to keep time, rhythm,and movement when more of your body (instead of just your hand or fingers) is involeved in making love, i mean music.
wow, beautiful playing all round, but particulary 1st violin and 1st cello. funny how the views and ratings drop off from the first installment; couldn't they be bothered to hear it all?
I love this piece, it's a shame more people are not willing to embrace Schoenberg, because of his atonal and 12 tone work. People should be open-minded.
Just because he disliked the term does not mean that his music cannot be described as atonal. Debussy hated the term impressionist, yet it would not be incorrect to name him so.
One needs only to listen to this piece here to hear tonality in Schoenberg. It is inherently wrong to call ANY music tonal, was Schoenberg's argument. A tonal center will always be perceived by a competent ear.
Thank you for this post. I have been engaged on other music sites with individuals who try to intellectualize this music. They seem to suggest that this music must be UNDERSTOOD as much as being heard I think they do Schoenberg a disservice.
My ears and heart which love the chamber works of Haydn, Nozart, Beethoven, Brahms love this piece of music also.
No knew schooling needed.
The melody and drama of this piece easily fell into my ears.
I really really agree with you on that point regarding the over-intellectualized approach people think is required to enjoy the music of Schoenberg. Schoenberg wanted people to listen to his music much like they listen to Mozart's. When people think that they need to crack some kind of analytical code to appreciate Schoenberg, they then remove the possibility that they ever will enjoy the music for the music itself.
Understanding music is no more important for my enjoyment or lack thereof than understanding the nutritional value of food is necessary to enjoying it. Music for me is an emotional experience not an intellectual one.
I disagree. Understanding music can simply come from putting the effort into taking all music and placing it within its historical context in terms of other music.
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coffeeboytas 1 year ago
The first violinist looks like Shostakovich!
MultiLerak 1 year ago 4
Thanks for posting this. Any experienced string chamber musician will understand the movements of the players - nothing 'creepy' about it at all! The resolution on my screen is too poor to be certain, but it looks as though they're playing from full scores, rather than individual parts.
teagueqc 1 year ago
Qué maravillosa obra... la noche transfigurada, las estrellas engrandecias y transmutadas
pp38nicu 1 year ago
0:36 Violin 1 solo sul G... so good. What talented players!
gofrillercello 2 years ago
I find the actual people playing it excessively creepy at times. When you get the full-view shot around 2:00, they're all wobbling about to this partly dissonant music, it's scary !
However, I love this whole piece, it's beautiful.
Selothi 2 years ago
its easier and sweeter to keep time, rhythm,and movement when more of your body (instead of just your hand or fingers) is involeved in making love, i mean music.
argentapothecary 2 years ago
i like how the beging seem to be tonal yet the middle experiments with more dissonance and free tonality
snofthndr 2 years ago 2
This work seems more tonal than his other works.
animeviolalord 2 years ago
op. 4 is before the pantonal times, so youre right, though you can see some foreshadowing
roflcopt0r 2 years ago 2
thatd be sick if the players descended from those two staircases to start out the concert
iamjgreenwood 3 years ago
wow, beautiful playing all round, but particulary 1st violin and 1st cello. funny how the views and ratings drop off from the first installment; couldn't they be bothered to hear it all?
kiracore84 3 years ago 2
I love this piece, it's a shame more people are not willing to embrace Schoenberg, because of his atonal and 12 tone work. People should be open-minded.
ThePiano1991 3 years ago
Never use the term atonal in relation to Schoenberg. It was a term he particularly detested.
eoghdes18 2 years ago 2
Just because he disliked the term does not mean that his music cannot be described as atonal. Debussy hated the term impressionist, yet it would not be incorrect to name him so.
ThomasSargeaunt 2 years ago
One needs only to listen to this piece here to hear tonality in Schoenberg. It is inherently wrong to call ANY music tonal, was Schoenberg's argument. A tonal center will always be perceived by a competent ear.
eoghdes18 2 years ago
I didn't know steven cobert played the cello!
Beeffyviolin 3 years ago
lol
pviola314 3 years ago
Thank you for this post. I have been engaged on other music sites with individuals who try to intellectualize this music. They seem to suggest that this music must be UNDERSTOOD as much as being heard I think they do Schoenberg a disservice.
My ears and heart which love the chamber works of Haydn, Nozart, Beethoven, Brahms love this piece of music also.
No knew schooling needed.
The melody and drama of this piece easily fell into my ears.
63Attila 4 years ago
I really really agree with you on that point regarding the over-intellectualized approach people think is required to enjoy the music of Schoenberg. Schoenberg wanted people to listen to his music much like they listen to Mozart's. When people think that they need to crack some kind of analytical code to appreciate Schoenberg, they then remove the possibility that they ever will enjoy the music for the music itself.
tranquilasadove 4 years ago
You are so right. Thank you for your kind words-JOHN.
Your term "break and analytic code" is most appropriate and useful in future discussions.
63Attila 4 years ago
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caiogbarros 3 years ago
Understanding music is no more important for my enjoyment or lack thereof than understanding the nutritional value of food is necessary to enjoying it. Music for me is an emotional experience not an intellectual one.
65attila 3 years ago
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caiogbarros 3 years ago
I disagree. Understanding music can simply come from putting the effort into taking all music and placing it within its historical context in terms of other music.
eoghdes18 2 years ago
So strange and so beautiful
mrkvamaster 4 years ago 2