those things are cute, but the mothers are evil.... was sitting in a baobab once with a friend and a troop of vervets came over to see what we were doing, and a little baby vervet, couldn't have been more then a couple weeks old, dropped into my lap off its mom, who was above me... it's mom wasnt to happy and proceeded to attack us... my friend fell out of the tree, but i managed to snag a lower branch on the way down... lol... that was in zimbabwe, btw
i think u can. They have to be capuchins though i think. But the take alot of care and attention and cost alot, that their food, health care and thhe actual cost to get one.
Oh thank you for gatecrashing my inbox from YT activity that was months ago.
Just like to argue? It just may be that I have a vested interest in these things. Ever consider that before you made your subjective determination on, well, on half a dozen things that you have infered to in your comment?
No, you havent considered anything before you posted. But thats not a me problem, thats a you problem.
Well, realisticly, the Vervet Monkey Foundation is simply an excellent excuse for grant and donation funded indulgences. Exactly the same with Chacma baboons at Sth Africas CARE. Neither animal has any official protection, neither animal is engangered, or even a little threatened. It is just a creche so people can "adopt" a baby Vervet or Baboon. The locals destroy these animals because they CAN be vermin. If you volounter they will even seperate a mother and infant so you can have a baby too.
have you been to the VMF? They don't have stupid 'adopt a monkey' things, we barely have any contact with the animals, and the foundation is only there to rehabilitate the monkeys that stupid farmers have shot for NO reason except that they see them on their property and assume they're eating their crop. You have to go there to see that it's not some stupid unnecessary place, if it weren't for us humans we wouldn't need places like the VMF.
Oh really? No I have not been to VMF. I have however watched many YouTube vids which show the physical contact that the people have with the vervets even whilst they are juveniles (not newborns).
CARE is much worse, watch the volounteers spend hours playing with the playful 6mth-1yr juvenile Chacma baboons. There is over 40 clips of CARE right here on YouTube.
You cant claim that you barely have any contact when you can watch it for yourself. This overt contact counters the intent of the VFM
Most of the monkeys in the videos are different, they are hard to identify, so it is understandable why it seems like there's a lot of the same thing here to someone who's never spent time with them. The only hands on time we spend with them (at the VMF) is with orphans (including juveniles from prev years) and ex 'pets' we wouldn't have to if humans hadn't shot their mothers or stolen them when they were babies. Or if they had their own land to roam free without human threat.
Total rubbish!!. The videos speak for themselves. Watch every vid on YouTube and see the number of ppl handling vervets, especially when they are juveniles, thus contact isnt necessary.
In the vids they are in the enclosure to "play" with them and no other reason.
Look, I think that VFM (to a far lesser degree, CARE) have their intent the right way, they are just doing it wrong.
At ~6mths they should be given to surrogate female and all contact ceased.
How can you judge a place from videos on youtube? the play with the juveniles you see is necessary, they were orphans, we do what their dead mothers would have, to show them how to interact with others so when they're integrated into a troupe the others don't KILL them. They're not pets or toys, you can't just cut off contact whenever and you can't just give them to a random female, it takes time, she has to accept it as her own, and she probably won't unless she'd lost her own that year
Nope. Again, the videos speak for themselves. Instead of refuting this why dont you watch for yourself! You will see much playing and handling of juvenile vervets. They are >6mths you can tell by the colour in the face. You dont need ANY contact at that age, they have eachother and will do just fine. You think this hasn't been tested before? Also, a surrogate female does not have to lose her own infant to accept another. Again, this is known to work. Why would you offer this guesswork?
I can't believe you're basing your arguement on some home movies on youtube. Do you really think that it proves you have any idea what goes on there? I was there, I don't need to watch the videos. 90% of the time I spent was far from any contact with the vervets, orphans do need contact, I never said a female surrogate HAD to lose her baby, it just has a higher sucess rate if she has, a surrogate is more likely to kill an orphan than take it. How can you honestly judge a place from these videos?
Well for starters the videos available display the actions and conduct of volounteers at the VMF while your NOT there and didnt see. The sheer volume of videos from many many accounts speaks volumes that there is a LOT of unnecessary handling of juvenile vervets. This is counterproductive to the cause. You DO need to watch the videos, otherwise you cant possibly relate to the material I am refering to and can only base your opinion on your own single experience and then assumptions.
I looked at your channel, I saw the other videos you comment on saying things about how monkeys should be easy to train like dogs, or favouriting videos of chimps skating on ice, and you complain about the VMF's care of vervets? Nobody's going to film themselves sitting outside the enclosures, trying to spot some of the rehabilitated vervets, cleaning the cabin, pulling out weeds from the firebreaks or preparing for mainfeed, that'd be too boring. Youtube only shows the 'fun' side of it.
Oh dear. You still havent bothered to search for vervets on YT have you. It isnt about not filming the work that is "boring", it is about the documentary evidence that the volounteers are playing with the juveniles. This shouldnt happen at all!This is counterproductive to the intent of the VFM. VMF should know better, yet it is so common from the vids. Like I said, many many YT accounts.
Dont assume that a "favourited" video is because it is favoured, why would you assume that? Oh dear.
When I go back in November, I'll record all the other stuff, the 'boring' stuff, and I'll upload it for you personally, since you obviously only base your opinion of a place on videos, not any real life experience, just the 30 seconds of a 4 week trip someone actually had some 'fun' with the monkeys.
And if you want to "personally" upload vids just to prove me wrong, dont bother chief, I give up.
I accept that the methods, procedures, and practices utilized by the VFM and CARE are the most suitable and modern practices known today to rehabilitate injured and orphaned primates.
I accept that regular human contact with growing primates is necessary for proper development of the animal and is in the animals best interest, and that all of these practices are endorsed by primatologists.
No he doesnt have any teeth yet. Vervet monkeys express every emotion by biting. Which is why it is not a good idea to have one as a pet as adults have huge canines.
that's a great idea, to let them bond together and be released together. Hopefully they start a strong and well-adapted tribe. Good luck to you all! :)
In the video description I said that I looked after this monkey while at a wildlife rehabilitation centre in South Africa. We do not go out and steal babies from their mothers. People bring them to us because their mothers are normally shot by farmers.
This monkey is well looked after and cared for 24/7. Once he is weaned he has less contact with humans and is with other orphan monkeys. They will be released back in to the wild once the troop is formed.
Do you know what rehabilitation park he went to? My wife and I volunteered a Inti Wara Yassi in Bolivia for a month. They rehabilitate capuchins and spider monkeys mostly. They all ave such sad stories on how they wound up there. Most of them came from pet owners who found out they weren't cut out for keeping them, having their children or themselves bitten. Hooray for ignorance and animal abuse...
Hes now a part of a troop getting ready to be released somewhere in South Africa. I'm pretty sure his troop is going to be released in Kwazulu natal as a farmer needs vervet monkeys on his land as all the Antelopes are dying as there arent any monkeys around ( the monkeys activity in the trees makes the fruit from trees fall which the antelope eat, they also drop half eaten fruit)
The stories were simular to the ones you spoke about. I wish people would realise monkeys do not make good pets!!!
So fun! Can those monkey's learn sign language? There's someone here who has a monkey, a small one like that, they say it knows some sign language, I don't know what kind of monkey it is though.
I wanna one
cassandraluvezyou 3 months ago
that is the cutest thing i have evr seen
123jorgecastro 3 months ago
Hey monkey get your mouth out of the cam corder
TheDevinnoel 3 months ago
having a monkey is like having a kid........come to think of it there wores than a kid
sswwaann1 4 months ago
where did u get the monkey?
natmar1000 5 months ago
They remind me of cockroaches - something to be stepped on until their guts squirt out all over the place.
killbabymonkeys 6 months ago
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Delpha77 1 month ago
@TheAKmatics what is the matter with you!!!!!!
gabs2015 1 year ago
awww kisses
EuropeanDeity 1 year ago
You have a heart. Adorable lil monkeys
dandyfireable 1 year ago
awww so cute were did you get him/her from
594JLP 1 year ago
awhhh he licked me~ now i feel special (:
oohMonika 1 year ago
kill this piece of shit and toss it in the trash..i want to put its head in a vice and crush it..death to all monkeys get off my planet
PurpleFade10 1 year ago
@PurpleFade10 hey dumbass your part of thier family so just jump off a building or something cause you dont deserve to be here at all!
gabs2015 1 year ago
@PurpleFade10 haha, your really badass because you have power over a small defensless animal. i bet you get beat up in school and have no friends :)
terminator567 1 year ago
your earth? you fuck'n piece of shit
michaela7899 1 year ago
OMG :*******
takogeleASH 1 year ago
those things are cute, but the mothers are evil.... was sitting in a baobab once with a friend and a troop of vervets came over to see what we were doing, and a little baby vervet, couldn't have been more then a couple weeks old, dropped into my lap off its mom, who was above me... it's mom wasnt to happy and proceeded to attack us... my friend fell out of the tree, but i managed to snag a lower branch on the way down... lol... that was in zimbabwe, btw
MissDawncyxs 2 years ago 2
omfdzz! why cant we get pet monkies in england????? :@:@
nitrox3206 2 years ago
i think u can. They have to be capuchins though i think. But the take alot of care and attention and cost alot, that their food, health care and thhe actual cost to get one.
JJSjiggy 2 years ago
Oh thank you for gatecrashing my inbox from YT activity that was months ago.
Just like to argue? It just may be that I have a vested interest in these things. Ever consider that before you made your subjective determination on, well, on half a dozen things that you have infered to in your comment?
No, you havent considered anything before you posted. But thats not a me problem, thats a you problem.
ChickenHawk110 2 years ago
..............
missyabit19 2 years ago
charlotte is this you you loser?!
priggyrules 2 years ago
People are strarving all over Africa and they're wasting money on monkeys!! They should teach the people how to fry monkey to end starvation!
FF7Cloud14 2 years ago
Well, realisticly, the Vervet Monkey Foundation is simply an excellent excuse for grant and donation funded indulgences. Exactly the same with Chacma baboons at Sth Africas CARE. Neither animal has any official protection, neither animal is engangered, or even a little threatened. It is just a creche so people can "adopt" a baby Vervet or Baboon. The locals destroy these animals because they CAN be vermin. If you volounter they will even seperate a mother and infant so you can have a baby too.
ChickenHawk110 2 years ago
have you been to the VMF? They don't have stupid 'adopt a monkey' things, we barely have any contact with the animals, and the foundation is only there to rehabilitate the monkeys that stupid farmers have shot for NO reason except that they see them on their property and assume they're eating their crop. You have to go there to see that it's not some stupid unnecessary place, if it weren't for us humans we wouldn't need places like the VMF.
myotheracnt 2 years ago
Oh really? No I have not been to VMF. I have however watched many YouTube vids which show the physical contact that the people have with the vervets even whilst they are juveniles (not newborns).
CARE is much worse, watch the volounteers spend hours playing with the playful 6mth-1yr juvenile Chacma baboons. There is over 40 clips of CARE right here on YouTube.
You cant claim that you barely have any contact when you can watch it for yourself. This overt contact counters the intent of the VFM
ChickenHawk110 2 years ago
Most of the monkeys in the videos are different, they are hard to identify, so it is understandable why it seems like there's a lot of the same thing here to someone who's never spent time with them. The only hands on time we spend with them (at the VMF) is with orphans (including juveniles from prev years) and ex 'pets' we wouldn't have to if humans hadn't shot their mothers or stolen them when they were babies. Or if they had their own land to roam free without human threat.
myotheracnt 2 years ago
"Understandable why it seems like..."?
Total rubbish!!. The videos speak for themselves. Watch every vid on YouTube and see the number of ppl handling vervets, especially when they are juveniles, thus contact isnt necessary.
In the vids they are in the enclosure to "play" with them and no other reason.
Look, I think that VFM (to a far lesser degree, CARE) have their intent the right way, they are just doing it wrong.
At ~6mths they should be given to surrogate female and all contact ceased.
ChickenHawk110 2 years ago
How can you judge a place from videos on youtube? the play with the juveniles you see is necessary, they were orphans, we do what their dead mothers would have, to show them how to interact with others so when they're integrated into a troupe the others don't KILL them. They're not pets or toys, you can't just cut off contact whenever and you can't just give them to a random female, it takes time, she has to accept it as her own, and she probably won't unless she'd lost her own that year
myotheracnt 2 years ago
Nope. Again, the videos speak for themselves. Instead of refuting this why dont you watch for yourself! You will see much playing and handling of juvenile vervets. They are >6mths you can tell by the colour in the face. You dont need ANY contact at that age, they have eachother and will do just fine. You think this hasn't been tested before? Also, a surrogate female does not have to lose her own infant to accept another. Again, this is known to work. Why would you offer this guesswork?
ChickenHawk110 2 years ago
I can't believe you're basing your arguement on some home movies on youtube. Do you really think that it proves you have any idea what goes on there? I was there, I don't need to watch the videos. 90% of the time I spent was far from any contact with the vervets, orphans do need contact, I never said a female surrogate HAD to lose her baby, it just has a higher sucess rate if she has, a surrogate is more likely to kill an orphan than take it. How can you honestly judge a place from these videos?
myotheracnt 2 years ago
Well for starters the videos available display the actions and conduct of volounteers at the VMF while your NOT there and didnt see. The sheer volume of videos from many many accounts speaks volumes that there is a LOT of unnecessary handling of juvenile vervets. This is counterproductive to the cause. You DO need to watch the videos, otherwise you cant possibly relate to the material I am refering to and can only base your opinion on your own single experience and then assumptions.
ChickenHawk110 2 years ago
And for the record this isnt "my arguement".
I cant bother argueing over the internet, seriously, how benign.
ChickenHawk110 2 years ago
I looked at your channel, I saw the other videos you comment on saying things about how monkeys should be easy to train like dogs, or favouriting videos of chimps skating on ice, and you complain about the VMF's care of vervets? Nobody's going to film themselves sitting outside the enclosures, trying to spot some of the rehabilitated vervets, cleaning the cabin, pulling out weeds from the firebreaks or preparing for mainfeed, that'd be too boring. Youtube only shows the 'fun' side of it.
myotheracnt 2 years ago
Oh dear. You still havent bothered to search for vervets on YT have you. It isnt about not filming the work that is "boring", it is about the documentary evidence that the volounteers are playing with the juveniles. This shouldnt happen at all!This is counterproductive to the intent of the VFM. VMF should know better, yet it is so common from the vids. Like I said, many many YT accounts.
Dont assume that a "favourited" video is because it is favoured, why would you assume that? Oh dear.
ChickenHawk110 2 years ago
When I go back in November, I'll record all the other stuff, the 'boring' stuff, and I'll upload it for you personally, since you obviously only base your opinion of a place on videos, not any real life experience, just the 30 seconds of a 4 week trip someone actually had some 'fun' with the monkeys.
myotheracnt 2 years ago
And if you want to "personally" upload vids just to prove me wrong, dont bother chief, I give up.
I accept that the methods, procedures, and practices utilized by the VFM and CARE are the most suitable and modern practices known today to rehabilitate injured and orphaned primates.
I accept that regular human contact with growing primates is necessary for proper development of the animal and is in the animals best interest, and that all of these practices are endorsed by primatologists.
ChickenHawk110 2 years ago
want one
1984bigface1984 2 years ago
He tried to nom your knuckle! Cheeky monkey... :P
MentalHygienist 2 years ago
did it hurt when he bit u?
NBlunierProductions 3 years ago 2
No he doesnt have any teeth yet. Vervet monkeys express every emotion by biting. Which is why it is not a good idea to have one as a pet as adults have huge canines.
babydegu 2 years ago 3
hey the suckers a toothless cannibel cant u see its trying to eat her then it settles with tasteing the camera its a very vicious creature
golfsuxx 3 years ago
Cannibal? hes a monkey, how can he be a cannibal ;)
babydegu 3 years ago
very carefully :D
golfsuxx 3 years ago
Aww! she/he's so sweet!
koallamalove 3 years ago 2
Beautiful!
beckyuk2001 3 years ago
Cute but why is it so short?
astontate159753123 3 years ago
that's a great idea, to let them bond together and be released together. Hopefully they start a strong and well-adapted tribe. Good luck to you all! :)
intentionalsound 3 years ago 3
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CUT DA BULLDOOKY AND KILL DAT STUPID HILTER MASTERBATIN' BOOK BURNIN ILLUMINATI BABY moNKY!
When it "kizzed" da camera lenzinatoer, you shoukda OPUNIsHED IT BY RIPPIN OUT ITS TOUGNE AND FEEDIN IT TO IT! SOOPY SCREATUIRES!
Bozofreak 3 years ago
I don't understand why someone has to have a monkey as a pet?? What happend to this monkey? Please provide an update.
ichbabedich 3 years ago
In the video description I said that I looked after this monkey while at a wildlife rehabilitation centre in South Africa. We do not go out and steal babies from their mothers. People bring them to us because their mothers are normally shot by farmers.
This monkey is well looked after and cared for 24/7. Once he is weaned he has less contact with humans and is with other orphan monkeys. They will be released back in to the wild once the troop is formed.
babydegu 3 years ago
FANTASTIC. Thank you on behave of all animal lovers like. God Bless you for taking care of these innocent animals.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
ichbabedich 3 years ago 9
awesome!!! keep it up !!!
what a sweetheart, i hope he is thriving in the wild...
LARAMONExALFNOWx 3 years ago
Babydegu you're amazing! Thank god for people like you! Keep up the good work!!!!
SimranSgh 3 years ago 3
Thank you, I try!
babydegu 3 years ago
Do you know what rehabilitation park he went to? My wife and I volunteered a Inti Wara Yassi in Bolivia for a month. They rehabilitate capuchins and spider monkeys mostly. They all ave such sad stories on how they wound up there. Most of them came from pet owners who found out they weren't cut out for keeping them, having their children or themselves bitten. Hooray for ignorance and animal abuse...
nosuchthing666 3 years ago
Hes now a part of a troop getting ready to be released somewhere in South Africa. I'm pretty sure his troop is going to be released in Kwazulu natal as a farmer needs vervet monkeys on his land as all the Antelopes are dying as there arent any monkeys around ( the monkeys activity in the trees makes the fruit from trees fall which the antelope eat, they also drop half eaten fruit)
The stories were simular to the ones you spoke about. I wish people would realise monkeys do not make good pets!!!
babydegu 3 years ago
so cute
sreaper09 4 years ago
So fun! Can those monkey's learn sign language? There's someone here who has a monkey, a small one like that, they say it knows some sign language, I don't know what kind of monkey it is though.
jumperchu 4 years ago