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  • Worst notion of a parable ever. Quite disgusting.

    Jesus rose from the dead after 3 days (and some call that sacrifice!). This boy didn't.

    God killed tons of people. This man didn't.

    God saw the death of his son coming (He basically hang him there). This man didn't.

    ...

    Shameful rubbish

  • @SachaGoed So you calling God guilty? This parable is meant to show the love God has to us that he sacrificed his own son for you and me.

  • @UnitedStatesOfAm2008 Since god supposedly is the author of everything, he's definitely guilty. He created everything KNOWING it could not meet his ridiculous standards, also created by himself.

    And why a blood sacrifice? The only one demanding a blood sacrifice is god himself, since he makes up the rules. This is disturbing. Just as disturbing that you find it an act of love.

  • @SachaGoed Have you read the bible? In the beginning, God made everything that he saw was good. That didn't stay for long because man had made a sin, which God made a punishment by death. You and I make a sin, it's our choices, not God's. This is why we going to die. That doesn't mean God is guilty cuz we make our own choices. But God wanted to save us because he loves us, which he decided through the blood of his own son. This is similar to this film.

  • @UnitedStatesOfAm2008 Yes, I read the bible. Did you?

    God created everything, he saw it was good, but later it wasn't good. Since god knew this would happen, it couldn't be good in the first place. This the problem with an omniscient and omnipotent god. He created us with flaws, knowing we would break his ridiculous rules, and punishes us with death. How loving.

    People like you say it's our choice, that we have free will. But if the penalty is death, it's not free will. And definitely not love.

  • @SachaGoed Yeah I read the Bible. God is punishing those who sins, ok? Not those that are good. Those that have faith and repent, they will live in eternity. Love is what we have after death dude. You have to die no matter what, but where you go after that is what the situation is.

  • @UnitedStatesOfAm2008 So repenting and having faith = good?

    According to your logic any sinful person is good as long as they repent and accept Jesus as the savior.

    That's the problem with your god and religion. A person who leads a good life won't find salvation if they don't believe your fairytale religion. So it has nothing to do with being good, but only with accepting this nonsense.

    Your claims are not only ridiculous, they're based on nothing more than faith. Mere believe without evidence.

  • @SachaGoed Yes, accepting Jesus is good. Thats how you get salvation. If you don't, then i'm sorry, you going down. Thats why you have time today to accept him. There probably won't be a better chance than right now...

    How do you think humans appeared on earth?

  • @UnitedStatesOfAm2008 Why is accepting something you don't have real demonstrable evidence for good? How is the lack of honest & rational skepticism a sign of morality which deserves the highest reward possible? But no need to answer. I'm not expecting one that's both honest and rational.

    "How do you think humans appeared on earth?"

    Ah, I see where this is going. The good ol' argument from ignorance. Just because I don't know how something happened, it MUST have happened by divine intervention.

  • "For even as you once were stubborn toward God, yet now were shown mercy at their

    stubbornness, thus these who are now stubborn to this mercy of yours, that now they also

    may be shown mercy. For God locks up all together in stubbornness, that He should be

    merciful to all" (Romans 11:30-32). God said He would be merciful to those who were stubborn JUST AS He is merciful to us in giving us faith and making us vessels of mercy. So God still has to be merciful to those who were stubborn.

  • @SachaGoed u saying we lack evidence for christianity?

  • @bobikua I say you have the same amount of evidence for christianity as other religions have for their own. Why do you think there are so many different religions out there?

    What bothers me most is that you people speak of knowledge and facts when talking about your religion. I'm tired of the claims that can only be backed up by some passages from a book, appeals to emotion and other logical fallacies. These are NOT proof or evidence.

  • @SachaGoed ya so u not convinced by some of the passages that backs up the truth??

  • @bobikuan Truth? You mean things like the creation, the flood, the virgin Mary and talking donkeys?

    Or you mean the bible's moral standard like Exodus 21:20-21 and deuteronomy 25:11-12?

    Well, reality opposes the bible 'truth'. And today's morality in my culture is so much better than the bible's.

    The bible has nothing to offer.

  • @SachaGoed the bible is the word of God tells us the history and stuff. when u go to skool they teach u about moses and abraham in 7th grade, which i hope u passed. y would they wana teach it if u say its not true??

  • @UnitedStatesOfAm2008 I hope they didn't teach you about Moses and Abraham in History class, but just in Religion class. One is about facts, the other is about myths and culture. It would be sad, dishonest and against any teacher's ethic if religion is taught as fact. We don't take facts from single sources. For that same reason we don't teach the Kuran as fact.

  • @UnitedStatesOfAm2008 " y would they wana teach it if u say its not true??"

    Coz it's a christian school, and therefore they're biased? I can only guess why they choose to lie about what are facts.

    Btw, I never said it's not true. I'm saying that there is no evidence to back up the claims. We should refrain ourselves from accepting something as truth which has nothing to support it.

    But what we can do is look how much it opposes today's morality AND contradicts reality, and then call it BS

  • @SachaGoed That answer you so called smart questions? Btw: You don't even know how humans appeared on earth? Look it up in Genesis Chapter 1.

  • @UnitedStatesOfAm2008 No, it does NOT answer my question, it only makes your claim for a god that's merciful AND sends you to hell for not believing more ridiculous. They exclude each other. So how do you solve this contradiction? You can't. At least not with honest rationality.

  • @SachaGoed There wouldn't be a hell if there wouldn't be a heaven. There wouldn't be a heaven if there were no God. Let me get something clear... you believe that there is no God?

  • @UnitedStatesOfAm2008 There you're doing it again, making claims without anything to back it up. Why couldn't there be a heaven without a god? Oh wait, you're talking about the christian god, so all your 'evidence' lies in the bible. But this doesn't solve your earlier contradiction.

    I simply reject all these claims because they lack real demonstrable evidence and proof. Like you do I'm sure with any other god. It's called intellectual honesty and skepticism.

  • @SachaGoed All the evidence are in the bible. There is currently proof that the stories that are written in the Bible are true. If you want some evidence I can list them. By the way, you are the one that said I'm going to hell, so that means there is a hell right? And there must be a heaven and God.

  • @UnitedStatesOfAm2008 "All the evidence are in the bible. There is currently proof that the stories that are written in the Bible are true."

    Proof according to biased creationists is still not real scientific demonstrable proof. If there was REAL proof about Yahweh being god and Jesus being savior, people wouldn't just believe, they would KNOW. Though you like to pretend you have the knowledge and the facts, all you really have is the bible (nothing but hearsay) and faith (nothing but believe).

  • @UnitedStatesOfAm2008 "you are the one that said I'm going to hell, so that means there is a hell right? And there must be a heaven and God."

    I meant in general. As in, according to christianity, if you (or any person) doesn't accept Jesus as savior, you (or that person) will go to hell. Some believers might disagree, but it's the dominant thought.

    I myself reject all these claims, because they don't meet the burden of proof. I wouldn't even say that IF there was a hell, there must be a heaven.

  • I haven't seen the movie, but the concept of drawing this sort of parallel is great. God, in an expression of his love for us, truly did sacrifice for us. To think of the grief this man faces in sacrificing his son may bring us a little closer to comprehend God's grief for sacrificing his son, and then necessarily his love for us which was expressed through that sacrifice.

    I'm going to try to find where I can see this movie. Any suggestions?

  • Touched to tears ...

  • so true

  • where can we watch the whole movie?

  • no clue, lol

  • econchick you are so unHoly you know? why can't you trust with all of your heart?

  • why are you so harsh? did you know even if you pretend or mean to not beleive in God or in the Bible your sin will never be forgiven and you will be instantly in hell? i am a Christian we are all Christians Filipinos and Americans and all others are Christians if you are a Christian you should beleive in God the Father.

  • gods should not have children.

    ...god should not have favorites, b/c some people say we are all the children of god.

    and it is a great injustice to have one man suffer for everyone's sins... and so then whats the point of hell?

  • So you'd like to be in hell instead of heaven?

  • @visionar007 thats really rude to say to someone.

  • SO sad and worse that the greatest Man died for all.

  • How do you know? Is it because you do not listen? Why not look for yourself and read it? Just some advice. Do you have one?

  • uh; no.

    im pretty sure that Jesus IS the son of God; and he is God.

  • there both fakes

  • hi econchick, with what evidence do you say that Jesus is not the son of God. He is the son of God and is God.

  • Did you know that the scripture itself says that God inspired man to write it? But if you just look at life around you-nature science, you see that there is Intelligent Design. What conclusion can you draw from this? There is physical evidence that has been found that persons living when the Bible was written did exist such as King David. Do you know about him and his loyalty to God?

  • yes i did kno tht god inspired it ad, well god still didnt write it.

    he wrote the commandments, so why cant he write the bible? its god, cant he do anything?

    yea nature is really beautiful... but its all opinion and science made it.

    and i dont really understand what ur trying to prove with kind d. explain it again please?

    peace! i respect ur choices in religion if you respect mine.

  • This movie is not good mataphora of Jesus sacrifice! Because God didn't kill his son, Jesus is not son of God, Jesus IS God. Jesus is Son of Father, but God as well as Father and Holy Spirit. God (Jesus) gave his life to buy-uot all our sins, but he resuscitated (arised) and he is alive now and forever! He could stop his death but he didn't - so we call that altruistic suicide and that's very brave and holy act.

  • God sent His Son Jesus to die for us John 3:16.

  • it's about wrong translation.. Jesus is NOT son of God. Jesus IS God! Jesus is Son of the Father!

  • the problem with this analogy is that jesus didn't really sacrifice anything because he was resurrected and went to heaven.

    so where is the sacrifice?

  • So YOU don't have to go to hell? Because HE DID? I'm no "theologian", but that's pretty easy to GET.

  • if he was punished for all the sins in place of everyone, no one should go to hell

  • Hi BorgHub, anyone who believes in Christ has eternal life. "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." John 3:36

  • this implies that you only go to hell if you belive in Jesus but sin anyway.

    if you're an atheist and don't belive you will simply cease to exist when you die.

    and you only go to heaven if you both belive and obey

  • Hey, BorgHub. Two words: Choice and destination. "So, boss, where do you want to spend eternity?"...

  • your right

  • note that jesus - the king of kings was given the greatest pain and humiliation a man can have. he doesnt deserve that. he's a divine entity most precious to God

  • This was amazing flim it was the best forgien flim it made me cried

  • I would like to see this movie in its entirety

  • I saw an insert on a movie called "The Greatest Gift" This made me cry so hard, What a sacrifice GOD made for us all..

  • its called "MOST" which is the czech name for the BRiDGE

    you can get it at MostTheMovie dotcom

  • Hello. WHat is the name of this movie? I cannot find it anywhere

  • where can I find the movie? I've searched allover

    :(

  • i watched this video at Veritas summer camp. it is veary powerful

  • great movie...

  • u can get the movie at mostthemovie dot com! this film changed my life

  • same with me

  • where can I fin th movie? full version. Answer me pls

  • You can get a copy from the MTA ministry at missiontoamerica dot org for a ten dollar donation. They will also include MOST gospel tracks free.

  • absolutly amazing. it really shows the sacrafice god made for us. This movie brought me to tears and it really changed my life. If you havnt seen it, i seriously suggest you do.

  • amazing short film!! the best i've ever seen. they have a website mostthemovie dot com

  • i watched it last night. it was soooo amazing.

  • We watched it last night in class...amazing. the cinematography was beautiful and haunting.

  • i just cant tell you how much i loved this short movie, a must for christians and athiests alike

  • Fantastic... i need to find out how to get this

  • Beautiful film!!

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