Time Commanders - Battle of Watling Street

[SlyDessertFox]

I am terrible at Total War games and even I can do better than them.

[CarlPapworthable]

This was a really bad episode. The team had no fucking idea what they were doing and it was boring.

[killcaptainstupid]

To be fair, killing Boudica is the kind of tactic I use in RTW - and needless to say, for narrative purposes, I would kill her with Seutonius and his bodyguard.

[SpartenKing22]

Wow, this guys are idiots, and then the one host calling that one person a military genius because she wants a hill advantage?!?! That is something that everyone should know, hill advantages win battles. This is a disgrace to the Ancient Romans.

[Draconian93]

This team is driving me insane. They have absolutely no military, or tactical knowledge. I need to face-palm some more.

[4everanarsenalfan]

mike loades is crazy

[xtron1234]

It's called video games

[theguywithnovideos1]

@xtron1234 They made this show long before the game was actually out. So I think they didn't want to really make it public that they were using this video game.

[AliDixon95]

the legionary cohorts have 'daggers' and shields? wtf is wrong with you O.o

[cansecoangel]

love their experts' explanation on what happened (toothpicks XD) and that push he must've been mad at the generals XDD

[milkmade001]

Rome total war is state of the art technology, lol. I love the game but I don't think it's state of the art technology.

[SlyDessertFox]

@milkmade001 It was when it came out and when this was made. 

[FreeGameUnion]

@milkmade001

it was like 10 years ago :)

[milkmade001]

@FreeGameUnion Ya I know...... It just sounds funny when they said Rome total war was a state of the art technology.

[FreeGameUnion]

@milkmade001 Yeah so did I to be fair

[12308madman]

19:38 power dump!

[12308madman]

most sixteen year olds could win this battle with ease.

[12308madman]

This should be brought back for Shogun 2

[MrSierra125]

I want this show to be on again!

[Highwind017]

This is one of those shows you dont have to be drunk and still go "Hey, I could do better than them".

Missed this show, Been soooo long since i watched it.

[hornetgags]

I loved Time Commanders, wish it was still on.

[TheCommenEagle]

Hello i am not trolling but please check my vids as this is the only way to advertise them without being a troll

[stuartfranglais]

sumo groups wtf

[stuartfranglais]

what a bunch of morons !!!

that was a waste of time letting them on the show

[JackStepek123]

God almighty.. 'we're in heavy armour so we should fight on the flats..' It's a fucking game!

[HarbingerOfBattle]

The only way the Romans could have lost that battle was if they were commanded by a complete dumb-ass, as we have just seen.

[Macedonfreak]

Sad i tried this with a friend i was the romans and i won all i did was make my army seem small hid the cohorts in the forest leaveing my less expeinced troop to fool the enemy to charge and also my cav hid so when the enemy enterd my view i waited for them to walk right into my trap the hidden units ambushed and hit them in the back while my other troops hit in the front leaving his 60000 man army in ruins but it was hard he routed my frontline "Roma Victora"

[Gekkibi]

Best moment: 42:23 - 42:29. The rest was facepalming.

[loveaction12]

these guys dont understand the physics of rtw :L

[MrJohn2010]

This is how NOT to wage a battle.

[ChrisBeale2008]

people should make new episodes themselves, this show was great and now that rome total war is easy and cheap to get hold of it could easily be replicated

[killinuall]

These people.....make me sad.

[Cis4Chun]

This used to be my favourite show on TV until they stopped it. Not sure why but thanks awefully for uploading it. If I remember correctly the teams nearly always lost.

[RoyalPikeman]

Rome total War my love my live my one <3 BUT ONLY MULTIPLAYER

[innit27]

general fighters lol

[innit27]

boudica looks like a school play fairy on a cart

[rockyoursocksoff91]

This show was awesome!

[SlyDessertFox]

What I dont like about Time Commanders is that its a bunch of people commanding. The real battles had one commander. Other than that I love Time commanders.

[BrommaHerman]

@SlyDessertFox They should have one General and two captains. Or at least call the second General "Strategist". That would maintain the importance of communication.

[SlyDessertFox]

@BrommaHerman I agree completely. 

[MrAfonsoNunes]

noobs

[Sahluful]

Decisive Battles used the same RTW engine back at the states.

[jmerrington]

why did this get cancelled :(

[TheWillSter57]

that looks exactly like rtw with the skins, like the beserkers, all the roman troops and the praetorian cav

[deanodeano82]

I've got 4 potatoes in my fridge with more intelligence than these four morons.

[AllanGarcia88]

@deanodeano82 I agree buddy =)

greetings!!

[Callumk70]

i could ve done better on my own :P



[Thonychil]

That Gary dude is a complete dumbass.. No tactical knowledge at all

[TheGuardsman1231]

if only these people had played rome total war

[jogs225]

@TheGuardsman1231 Rome Total War wasn't out when the TV show was on :)

[ravingdave900]

i remember thinking: if this was a real game id be so happy. then it was a real game :D

[GrabASpoonEatMyAss]

They were a bad team... But being outnumbered 6 to 1 is a lot to ask from even a good team.

[amoungthefree]

@GrabASpoonEatMyAss Yes...from a good team...they were a horrible team (also the actual roman numbers were 500 versus 80 thousand britons.)

[boneheadbray]

I wan't some magical war paint!!!

[halomaniackslashcraz]

I think someone went a little overboard when they sed Rome total war commentaries!

[House2P4R3]

the guy general is stupid..... very stupid... abandoning a high ground... when the ratio is 1 to 6...

[hegs100]

There's a great tie-in book that came out at the time - "Time Commanders: Great Battles of the Ancient World". Lots of background and analysis of the actual battles. You can still get it new on Amazon, cheap (mind you I got mine as a present, so I'm not complaining!). It's illustrated with 'stills' from the programme, some as if at close-quarters, and some 'helicopter views' showing the battle formations.

Boudicca did worse than this lot - 80,000 Britons dead, vs. 400 Romans (+400 wounded).

[Blisterdude123]

Everyone on this show misinterprets the purpose of the host. He's harsh and blunt, yeah, but if you watch carefully, you can see all he tries to do is elicit action or decision from the guests. Like, with the woman general, Joe. He asks what they're gonna do, she says stand their ground; he then asks if they're gonna let the britons come to them, which she misinterprets as criticism and becomes all indecisive.

[maximuslaurius]

I'm reminded of the line in Spartacus "the Romans are having a picnic"

[Paranomasia12]

And this is why I liked this program. Watching complete know-it-all twats make idiotic decisions and get their arses handed to them.

[GGZULU]

The guy general does my tits in and has the worst tactics ever!

[Tappermccabe]

Meat loaf, running a gift shop?

[webly17]

pause at 28:27  hahaha!!

[OutrightRandom]

"Generals"

"So general fighters"

"No generals"

Awkward

[supersoulllama]

They weren't fighting AI. That's why there was 2 guys at the computers, it was a LAN match. I bet the guy controlling the AI had fun lol

[DukeOfTennessee117]

Rome demands victory from its generals!

[navrig44]

I love how the guy, who is clearly the one who knows it all, makes every wrong decision, while the girl who is there for a laugh, gets it spot on.

[att1tud3]

this video is a waste of time. bunch of monkeys trying to talk strategy.

[TheThomasto123]

The generals are really dumb! What I would've done is used the weakest but huge in number as a meat shield for my army and atleast hide your calvary in the woods xD

[BlackestEyes111]

literally one of the greatest show of the noughties xD

[wikey1236]

Daggers and shiz....

[AakirX]

love to see the battle on the new total war shogun 2.

[deathpunish2]

The Generals are arrogant dumbasses... Should have listened to the lieutenant and stay up on the damn high grounds!

[tceBansai]

So, we're on a hill with 10,000 men against 60,000 men, so we will:

1. SPREAD OUR FORCES OUT IN A THIN LINE THAT CAN'T MATCH THE ENEMY LINE

2. PUT THE ARCHERS IN FRONT OF THE INFANTRY TO "PROTECT" THEM and

3. RUN DOWN AT THEM OFF THE HILL INTO THE LOW GROUND

:\ I believe a WTF is in order. Your Britishness is hereby revoked.

[wesmatron]

@tceBansai LMFAO. Perfect.

[tceBansai]

Ha, I don't know if anyone else felt this, but the number of wrong and stupid things these people did and said almost caused me physical pain when watching it.

[tobs001]

@tceBansai I suppose thats the appeal of the show. So that RTW players can watch a bunch of clueless wankers screw up and cringe throughout the battle. I'm terrible at the game but even I could do better than these jokers. That 1 general's initial plan was so suicidal I couldn't stop laughing. "We'll split our massively outnumbered army into small, isolated groups and have them charge off the highground!! That's sure to win us the battle!!" O_O

[kakisala]

They should have used Europa Barbarorum for this (although this particular battle is after the end of EB)

[M4tTyEa4LiFe]

man the host of this is an arrogant prick

[TheGreeniful]

19:39 tea bag

[sweAndreasFilm]

do they get money if they Win?

[Rumpio]

Even before the armies met each other it was obvious they were gonna lose! It all went wrong in the planning.

[dybeen]

@Rumpio

Yeah. The only one who had the right idea didn't have the conviction to hold to it.

[Albertgr]

ROMA VICTIS!

[coldfyre18]

N00bs.

[Ethan15811]

"What have you learnt?" Your fucked!

[BingBang149]

prince of macedon is chuck noris

[tobs001]

@BingBang149 HAhahahha it would be too unbalanced if they had PoM on this show. The battle proper would only last 5-10 minutes.

[MrFastdudedotcom]

how did u upload this on the 1st of jan 2011 this was years ago

[DarkenedPsycho]

Wish they would bring this show back, plus have two opposing teams, fighting ai is boring or I think they were fighting ai.

[TheLordEspada]

they should remake this show for shogun total war 2

[Condors55]

Man, they were bad. Never mind the strategic errors, they never got a command structure going. Evereyone's shouting, nobody's listening, it gave me a headache.....

[Teriton]

I've never noticed that they actually used the music from RTW in the show. By the way, the expert with the curly hair, Aryeh Nusbacher, is now named Lynette.

[BloodiestMargie]

@Teriton  I know. I noted in one of the video descriptions

[m78991234]

@BloodiestMargie i think you will get alot more views in the following days, a guy named "BlueZephos" or something, mentioned this show while he was playing shogun 2, he has 213,000 subs

[milodara93]

@BloodiestMargie I know alot of rom, in fact I play it... But when people march there roman troops in testudo is actually bad... Roman only do that when there taking fire...+ it also helps your troops if you put your general next to your troops, give you morale boost, cause who would wanna retreat when a general is watching you fight lol..

[TheCoz101]

My god they're so bad

[halo123man1]

Imagine if the prince of macedon had gone on this show he would have done it all on his own

[BrommaHerman]

@halo123man1 Everybody would have done better on their own...

[Hulltastical]

This team are retarded. Who the hell gives up the high ground and leaves archers exposed in a thin line on the flanks? They were too focused on killing Boudicca near the end, when the cavalry should've been helping the troops out for a regroup. They should've waited at the top in formation instead of taking the chariot bait aswell, it was all over from there.

[J4K31]

they should just have 1 general or else you get nothing done

3 advisors and 1 general

[BloodiestMargie]

@J4K31 "they should just have 1 general or else you get nothing done" WELCOME TO REALITY!

[J4K31]

@BloodiestMargie it's not reality in this programme, they have 2 generals

[BloodiestMargie]

@J4K31 You miss my point entirely.

My point is that typical Roman armies (at least in Republican days) were commanded by the Consuls; two every year. Meaning that there were two generals in major battles consisting of major Roman armies.

My other point was, in reality, you are almost NEVER in a position, either in your job, career, family, or anything, where you can dictate your will and have everyone follow. You will ALWAYS be in a position of competing ideas "getting nothing done"

[thelittlemind]

@BloodiestMargie your right about the consuls but each consul had their own army in which they were in charge of... they had the apprentecis which were like 3 which studied under the consul command.. just saying now i could be wrong

[BloodiestMargie]

@thelittlemind Their structure was even worse than this one; they had multiple tribunes, they had a Legatus Legionis for each legion, and they had dozens of Centurions, all of whom were trained to act autonomously in battle if and when they were cut off from the Consul

[thelittlemind]

@BloodiestMargie ok

[MrBluebirdsfc]

It frustrates me when these people do something wrong and the tactics seem so obvious

[BloodiestMargie]

@MrBluebirdsfc  Those are the funny parts

[MrBluebirdsfc]

@BloodiestMargie haha i suppose

[patchesohoolihan666]

Yeah, the total war games are all similar in one respect: the diplomatic AI is fucktarded. Sometimes you can have 5 full armies seiging their last city with a garrison consisting of their faction leader, and if you approach them for a ceasefire THEY demand money from YOU.

[tobs001]

@patchesohoolihan666 Yeah I love the total war series but when I play I just work on the assumption that everyone will attack me.

[tobs001]

because of the wonky diplomacy system i mean

[Jagbrothers2]

time commanders was really cool, but they should make it again with the other TW games to make other battles

[TheMikeyReilly]

Wedge formation with infantry, and you'll win.

Use cavalry to chase down retreating barbarians.

[1337lolguyman]

if only there were 2 teams, each controlling a seperate army.

[LittleChocolateChip]

I am so glad that you've put these up! :) I used to love this program and am totally happy to be able to watch them again :) Thankies.

[Skullbird11]

"STATE OF THE ART TECHNOLOGY"

rome total war.

[1337lolguyman]

@Skullbird11 lol, that is one of my favorit total war games tho.

it really was not hard to recognize it.

[HooshIsASoup]

@Skullbird11 It was a state-of-the-art game back when Time Commanders aired (2004~2005).

[runeman00]

@HooshIsASoup It's still a videogame that I don't think historians should be using.

[BloodiestMargie]

@runeman00 I still consider it vastly superior to falling back on slow-pan and zooms of Renaissance-era pictures that are wildly inaccurate in comparison to this.

[runeman00]

@BloodiestMargie Good point

[RTWXilef]

@Skullbird11 Well this show did come out in 2003...

[britgirl19]

i really loved this programme, pity it isn't on anymore

[BGH122]

@britgirl19 We should probably be thankful it isn't on anymore. Imagine them trying to renew this with that half-finished, buggy piece of shit Empire: Total War. It would be a disaster.

[EmperorHarold]

Empire was buggy, but they have sorted it and it is a very good game, as I hope Shogun 2 will be as well.

[BloodiestMargie]

@BGH122 @EmperorHarold I never found ETW to be "buggy", just not very interesting, very uninvolving. Maybe it was the frustration from being unable to clearly see all the TINY towns and ports and schools on the map, or the batshit-insane AI that sees fit to have nations randomly declare war on you, or demand HUGE tribute for no reason, with no military or political force to back it up. Or the Hollywood-style battles with ridiculous levels of musket accuracy

[1337lolguyman]

@BloodiestMargie well the first few thigs are agreeable, the battles are tweaked to keep interest, would you want to keep a battle going for hours on end as your troops cheer at any one hit they achieve? It is there to allow for tactics, not frustration.

[BloodiestMargie]

@1337lolguyman Actually, ETW mods which reduce musket accuracy are far more satisfying, as you're capable of better handling your infantry, and rushing support for them, rather than have them be butchered in 2.2 seconds and break and run while your reinforcements are just getting in formation. If the shooty is too sufferably slow for you, you fix bayonets and chareg them old style

[1337lolguyman]

@BloodiestMargie well, not if you play Prussia, like me, as their infantry are tough and rely on breaking enemy incoming formations while prussian cavalry is much weaker and artillery is outright horrid at aiming. Mods like that will put players like me at a disadvantage by removing everything our faction gives us to be able to play like that.

[BGH122]

@BloodiestMargie That precisely what I mean by buggy. They CAN'T have thought that having an AI which decides to declare war on a superpower for no reason when it's only got one city was a good idea. It's also pretty telling that they gave their enemy AI infinite money (this was a proved a while back, city states e.g. Bavaria, can spawn infinite units even when they're in the red).

[Trothvalintine]

that theory could be right that tends to happen when someone is controlling an army that isent theirs. they were to many other tribesmen there

[BloodiestMargie]

@Trothvalintine It mostly tends to happen when someone unites tribes like this out of rage and hate and, unlike Vercingetorix, doesn't bother to try to retrain them or wage guerrilla war.

[m78991234]

@BloodiestMargie quick question (this was aired in 2004 or something like that) and you upload in 2011?

[BloodiestMargie]

@m78991234  Yes