@777equals666 please, the registry is an FDA initiative that is used as a clearimghouse for data for physicians, not the CIA, and its also to be used in regards to tort reform
Blue Cross Anthem.....high increase rates didn't work out so well. Insurance commissioner said give it back and wait! ...well all you greedy cocksuckers got a new roommate today! Now all you health insurance companies can fight among each other...on who's got the best rate! You all deserve what our President gave you! for being the non caring greedy bastards you all are! It's Sunday
and you just lost the game! and now the table has turned on you! :)
lezxotic-- let us donate to the poor on our own terms.. we don't need the government hiking taxes up and telling us what there going to do with our HARD EARNED money.. the government wastes money on nonsense.. look at the "stimulus" bill.. MILLIONS have gone to waste.. move to europe if you want the government to rock your cradle and reward those who choose not to help themselves.
Something just does not seem right about this. I suspect that we will look back on this someday and say clearly that it was the biggest mistake we ever made as a country. I just get that feeling about it.
Look on page 1001 - 1007 on the current US Health Care Bill and you will see a little program called, "National Medical Device Registry" sponsored by IBM and Positive ID.
Obama and Friends want all Americans to have a microchip implanted into their bodies that will legally allow us to receive Medical Care, Commerce (Purchase Any Items) and Travel Nationally/Internationally.
We get monitored 24 hours a day and as a direct result, lose all privacy and get forced into a New World Order!
We have waited for more than 60 years for health care to be reformed. Doing nothing is no longer an option. Please take the time and read the bill for yourselves instead of falling for the lies and scare tactics that are spreading like wild fire. I have posted a link to the bill in the comment section of my profile for those of you who are interested in the truth. Thank you.
It looks like people hate change for the better. If they are worried about money they don't seem to realize money is man made. Money is made everyday, old ones burned.
People just like to think about themselves and never about others. "United States" my ass.
I'm Republican and all America supports Obama and new pass laws coming this year for hope of country. Show American people new laws and bring troops back home.
I would say as far as taxpayer investments, seeing as the money obviously gets spent anyway (see preceding paragraph)......not having to worry about going bankrupt anymore whenever you get sick due to the backing of a federal healthcare program seems to make this one a bit more worthwhile investment to the average person and family, no?
Anybody remember when we spent $500 billion dollars in Iraq, or $121,000.00 for every person in the U.S........ and then handed $700 billion dollars to Wall Street after discussing it for like 2 weeks? I can't remember getting anything out of that myself personally. Do you?
Nah. Everyone forgot. Thankfully all of the doomsday dooms these folks are predicting didn't happen then.
This will not be free. Someone will pay for it one way or another. I watched a show today that had a guy who was in charge of 14 hospitals. From what I got out of it there will be less staff and fewer hospitals if all this passes. Also if you have group health care now it will be considered a taxable benifit and will be taxed as income.
Their* won't be fewer hospitals, their won't be fewer staff, their won't be fewer anything.
However what WILL happen is that everyone persons taxes will sky rocket to unbelievable amounts to pay for government run health care. It's what occurs in every country that uses this system.
If the Peace Corps can afford medical care to natives in Africa, and we can afford to adopt Iraq and rebuild their entire country....surely we can afford to keep our own people healthy without "skyrocketing taxes", "armageddon" and "boogeyman government".
Private healthcare oligarchies are already the most top-heavy bloated beurocracies imaginable with CEOs raking in billion dollar salaries and incredible waste.
a new healthcare system is necessary, but it cannot be government run. the healthcare in canada and britain is terrible, they have to come to the usa to get a surgery because the government forces the patients to wait months for an operation they already paid for with their taxes. why would we want to copy this plan? plus like it or not. the main reason that people go through 10 years of schooling to become a doctor is for the CASH. i am a doctor myself, i would know. some doctors pay will drop.
Anyone who takes Moore's videos as literal loses all credibility. He speaks and argues in half truths, and literally took the best examples of Universal Health Care and the WORST examples of our privitized care to make his point. How can you even consider that a viable or legitimate argument?
And to all else, want reform? Let's talk about fucking malpractice suites. Sign a waiver so you can't sue after treatment, or pay high prices for the chance to sue, for starters.
(continued) For those that want an entire overhaul of one of the most important (if not the most important) system in this country, you better damned well think LONG AND HARD about the ramifications, if any, to a universal plan. I'll give you a hint, there ARE cons to universal coverage. It's not all daisy picking and singing coom-bai-yah.
Before I'd even touch this thing with a ten foot pole, I'd want to know SPECIFICS on his plan, which he hasn't released, just like the stimulus debacle...
the movie sicko was based solely on liberal propoganda. it cannot be trusted as fact. i had an uncle who died because he did not recieve the kidney transplant that he needed. the government turned him away because they said he was to old for it. he had the money and was willing to go through with the transplant but was turned away. i know for a fact that he wasnt to old and an experienced surgeon in the usa could have saved his life.
So what would your greedy *** do to help the un and under-insured? @ 2 date NO republican has offered a solution on anything. Ur not even articulate enough to explain the ways nin which sicko was progaganda.
I don't even believe what u wrote here. Besides undere Obama's plan if you don't want the public option u can KEEP your private insurance so Y R U fear mongering?
i wouldnt know what to do about it, but thats not my job is it? no, im just pointing out the flaws of this health care program. and whether you believe my story or not does not really bother me, as it will not change the truth. plus, could you explain to me how i was not articulate enough in my post? i am a doctor myself and and after 10 years of study i would say i know what im talking about.
didnt i say that i dont want to argue? ALL I AM DOING IS POINTING OUT MY CONCERNS! and my study was 4 years college, 4 years of med school and 2 years of internship. sacrifices will be made, a public health care plan is not free. its costs alot of tax dollars. and a government run system will not be of the same quality as a private one. you dont even have an argument, so please, stop making one.
I don't cvare that you wrote that you don't want to argue, I am sick of selfish people wantiong to deny others healthcare.
I work, I pay taxes and I am not so sickenlyu greedy that I won't shell out a few extra pennies under the ruse of: "I don't want future generations to be in debt" Or any other feeble excuse. Med School? College? Internship? Yet you are on You Tube beating a DEAD HORSE?
Allot of tax dollars? Give me a break! Do you think you are going to lose 50% of your income to some disadvantaged Latino or African American? PAY UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't you think that the goverment is already paying the tab most of the time.The medicare goverment run program is paying far more than any private system. Your malpractice insurance will make you quit your profession and become a lawyer.
We can't possibly imagine how a government run program accountable to elections, whose primary goal is to provide -HEALTCHARE-, would not be better and less expensive than a system run by a small oligarchy of companies whose goal is to maximize their own profits- even if they keep people SICK, and is accountable to stockholders. Where are the rallies the press isn't covering? Public healthcare not Corp Welfare! We fear Obama is going to sell out to the insurance sharks and lobbyists
my admiration grows week by week for obama...after 8 years of doing NOTHING but wasting money in Iraq, killing Iraqis, and cutting taxes for everyone which led to the bankruptcy of this country...it's nice to see someone finally spending money and legislating in the right direction...albeit painfully and with great gamble since the previous administration left us with no choice.
Search: "The Audacity of Thought with Barack Obama." Its a spoof of Sat. Night Live's 'Deep Thoughts with Jack Handey,' but instead its Obama reading the thoughts . . . its funny!! :-)
The insurance companies have a problem. Businesses and individuals are canceling insurance coverage because of the high prices. The insurers want the government to force people to buy coverage. However, the insurers do not want competition from a government option. That would force down prices and profits.
In having "socialized medicine," could years from now our federal government abuse it? if that is the case, how worse would we be regarding health care cost, research for curing major or minor diseases, and everything else that does happen in the USA?
That is very true. By any means I am not living in the future. Just want to have a wonderful one. :) I personally have full faith in what our President believes in and the great job he is doing. What is my red flag is once something is LAW, it is harder to modify it. By NAFTA and other private sector abuses, we could easily do more damage to ourselves before that future I have mentioned comes to pass.
thankyou, why do doctors call it "their practice"? because they are practicing on you, medicine affects people differently so they have to practice on you (and i am a nurse btw)
fuck healthcare, we are nothing more than sophisticated animals, we are not going to live forever, deal with it. if people want good healthcare they need to live more healthy
well just because we may be a sophisticated species doesn't mean we let the people with money get all the medicine and let the poor people die and get sick...thats not the way it works, especially in todays modern age.
What we need to do is fuckin socialize healthcare this way we as a nation can become healthier..from high class, lower class, race, gender, whatever! we are all in this together. if a poor person gets sick it can spread to a rich person. Health insurance is very important.
michael jackson is not dead. so your already wrong. and even though man is mortal we can work together to better the lives of everyone (the initial purpose of a society) and if you break your finger, catch a virus, or anything that happens by chance, we should be able to help fix that. its called Medicine and it should be accessible to everyone. if you don't agree with that then there's nothing left to say...natural selection starts with stupidity and ignorance.
i cant find anything officially saying he died. although yes the guy was hospitalized for not breathing there's no word that he passed away..atleast not yet.
this is a democracy, if you can't afford it then you can't have so wait, I strongly dislike you obama you are so unexperienced & I cannot wait until you are done your term and I can't wait until you aren't re-elected. OH and by the way, keep the troops in the middle east. WHY PULL OUT?!? THIS WAR IS FOR OIL AND WE NEED THAT OIL.
Democracy has NOTHING to do with affording or not affording ANYthing. That is CAPITALISM, not democracy. How can a parent whose child falls off of a swing and breaks his/her arm WAIT to AFFORD to get it fixed? ALL FIRST TERM PRESIDENTS ARE EQUALLY INEXPERIENCED IN THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT. I thought the Bush Administration told us this war was about weapons of mass destruction and not robbing the Iraqi people of oil that is rightfully theirs.
Health care in civilised countries is about health !
Therefore i support Obama for he wants to break the power of the meds in writing their bill and that of the insurance companies in cashing their premiums.
1,000,000.00 for minor heart surgery and 500.00 monthly for insurance, jeezes are americans so stupid to pay those amounts ? Faaaaaar Overrated !!!!
So, no more paying health insurance. No more monthly bills of $500+ any longer?
Sounds like Obama is giving us a free trip to paradise!
Jump on board everyone and lets go on that free ride!
And don't forget "sharing the wealth". Nancy Pelosi, Barney Franks and all those rich folks will pay their taxes and we can all stand in line for the free Obama handouts :)
You said it buddy...what I won't tell you is all the people that are killed everyday...and all the falsefication that goes on....Obama is really hitting the nail on the head when he is talking about medical records...Thats where all the lying is going on.
Having been a DR. and on the board of a major hospital, I tell you that our medical Industry is a Black Hole of waste and mismanagement. The Doctors will fight tooth and nail to protect their little Kingdoms(hospitals) which are now being run like a fast food bisiness in order to maintain their high purses.
Oh yeah! People with end stage diseases if they are on medicare/medicaid especially with a supplemental they will run every test in the book to diagnose things they can't treat because it's a CASH COW. Milk it baby! And do everything invasive you can imagine-even open heart surgeries on 90 year olds-throw in a biventricular pacemaker and since all that dye caused kidney failure, CRRT-several million dollars. CAAAHINNG!!! Then granny dies in a few weeks. CAACHING!!! Cash cow.
OK People you guys Dont know how good you guys have it over there even have the benefits of having a hospital. i've been traveling around the globe seen Millions of ppl with no water no healfcare or nothing. Here in Denmark we pay between 41 - 50 % of our paycheck in taxes but there by we dont have to spent a dime on healfcare or Education just ride the wave and pay with the taxes
Would you rather pay $500 a month on private insurance like I do with a $500 deductible; or $434 with a $2,000.00 deductible, and that is rapidly going up. I have no health problems, this is for SINGLE coverage (a family plan would easily exceed $1,000.00 a month with a $500 deductible)-so God help you if you are married and have kids. That will wipe you out! Is this system better, or is your Denmark system better. I'm just curious-which do you prefer???
I would say for The Danish People is it better Couse not only are we getting free healfcare but we are also Covered wile Studing at college or universety example i'm starting at Buiness Collage till august and thats is 3 years free with gratuation at all over and above that i'm getting around 1200 us$ a month from the goverment that is covered by the taxes
I'm STILL waiting for Obama to get a SHELTER pet for Bo-I hope you realize it costs American tax payers $2.5 BILLION dollars a year to kill perfectly adoptable pets in pounds. California alone spent a quarter of a billion dollars in ONE YEAR to kill pets. Since Obama got this Water dog-puppy mills are breeding them like candy and sales are sky rocking, and for EACH puppy mill or breeder dog bought-ONE DIES IN THE POUND. Buy a dog, you kill a dog. For God's sake-GET BO A COMPANION SHELTER DOG!
Private insurance is a big rip off. It is quite BEYOND what most people can afford. Employers are now dropping health plans to save money. Considering my private plan is SINGLE, I have NO health problems, and on NO MEDICATIONS-why do I have to pay $500 a MONTH with a $500 deductible just to have health insurance?
WinterHaven: If you are a young adult with no health issues it is my opinion you are wasting $500 dollars a month. I would rather see you Save the $500 a month. If your 20-40 the odds are in your favor to live healthy for decades. There is always the accident that could happen driving a car. But your car insurance would pay that. So what is the health insurance for? Like I said. You prob dont need to worry about that if you are heath conscience for many decades. Just a thought.
But this is another thought-WHAT IF-being mortal, ANYTHING can happen. ONE SINGLE ADMISSION TO THE HOSPITAL: My life savings will be wiped out. Completely. Then I will have to file bankruptcy to keep creditors from hounding me. Yes I am being ripped off, but there is nothing I can do about it. if you have any kind of assets, this health insurance means helping me protect me from bankruptcy. Just a few days in hospital is about $100,000.00 + I know this to be fact.
winterhvn: I don't get caught up in the hype. I said it was my opinion. You must do what you think is right. I for one am healthy and not interested in wasting $500 a month on a very low chance of anything happening. Like I said, if Im in an auto accident, I
already have health insurance for that. It comes with the auto insurance. I believe the odds are good enough not to worry about heath insurance at this time in my life. The #1 cause of death in America is Abortion. 54 Million and counting
So are you telling me it's better to NOT have insurance? A single hospital admission-and ANYTHING can happen-just for a few days averages over $100,000.00 even for minor surgery. ARe you telling me you have that much money you can afford to go without insurance? What if you have some kind of heart problem-a single open heart surgery will cost you about a MILLION dollars. Do you have cash for that?? I'm just curious. And the ONLY reason why I have private insurance-is because I don't need it.
I am sorry $500 a MONTH? FFS! that is disgusting a healthcare insurance plan should cost about $40 a month and you are being ripped off big time. This is why we must have the public option and Healthcare companies are a complete disgrace and should be forced to bring down their prices. This is just clear profit to them. I am furious!!
You are not going to get health insurance anywhere for $40 a month-NOT EVEN with company benefits. If you do it's rare. Keep in mind this is private insurance-what McCain and Palin were pushing for. That $2,500.00 tax write off won't even pay for one month's premium which I"m forking over from my own bank account-$500 a month is NOT chump change. Just to have insurance. And ALL private insurances WILL fight tooth and nail to NOT pay.
Fuck all of this debate on Capitol Hill that's restraining us from getting this done. JUST GET IT DONE. Too much debate in Congress and in Washington leads to too much waiting for the American people who desperately need health care.
Actually "dumb comments" are also good. It's a reflection how many people think - adverse criticism is good because you can think of ways to counter it.
Obama you are a very dumb president! NOBODY wants your Government Run Health Care!!! I can NOT think of one Government Run Program from DMV to CIA that is worth a Shit! We all love the S.S.ofc. and the scanning to even go into through the doors & Mother Vehicles, even the Tax System. OBAMA Stay the Hell out of our Health Care!!! The Government is controling our Medications now, but if you own the doctors we won't even get those. Obama FAIL! No We Won't~
You must be a retiree who is on medicare, or on Disability on medicaid so your health care is all provided for-so you have room to bitch. Oh yeah, on the above cases happens to be socialized medicine. Maybe with your theory we should do away with medicare and medicaid and get private insurance. I bet you can't even afford a month's premium, what I have to pay out: Try $500 a month for single coverage and I have no prescriptions and in good health.
Great job, Mr. President. I stand firmly behind you and continually notice your care for THE PEOPLE of the United States, not just the wealthy elite who have for far too long been over-represented in the government and callous to THE PEOPLE.
Mr. President, I think you need to get the American people to vote on this in a special election to determine if you have complete support from the American people. Also, you should get business and labor to back you and support you on this plan. I'm quite certain you will get a single payer healthcare on the table in no time. I can't imagine any Senator or Congressman willing to give up his job for any special interest when confronted by the voice of the American people.
Ok, you can stop using roads and schools and the postal service and stop being defended by the military and anyone can strip you of your rights and do whatever they want to you without consequences since you don't want the police to interfere in your life and no water unless you have your own well etc etc etc etc. l2troll imo
*claps* well said. let them know what their getting from the government. We all know the government isnt the greatest or the best but for god sakes people at least appreciate the good they do or try to do.
no one wants government heathcare. We will have no choice but to take it. It dosnt even have to be good or make profit. There is no way that any company can compete with someone who can just take money from whoever they like to fund their insurance. A government entety that dosnt need to make a profit cant be compared to something that dose need to nake a profit. The 2 are not on equal terms. its not logical to compare the 2 based on the properties of 1.
*claps* yay now thats what im talking about a Universal health care program, we should have done this a long time ago i mean canada have done it, im sure we can. Now people can stop struggling with all these private health care programs that just rips you off and when you really need them they just push you aside and say "we dont cover that". I hope this gets the green light.
indigjudgement: Why dont you government plants playing your lame psyops go play in the sand box. This is a dumb over stepping government and they do not need to screw up our Health Care. We all ready have special provisions in place for those that cant afford it. Those that can have no trouble going to the Doctor of there choice. If a Canadian wants to get something done they come to America. People Wake the Hell Up. Obama: No We Won't!~
2xtream: I wonder why ur alive ur just basically taking up space and sucking up oxygen. Obama: "No We Won't!" u think that people is going to agree with u 4 saying that? lol idiot. I can understand u'd be scared u ignorant imbecile. Let me teach you something if you shall reply. ppl who cant afford HC have 'chip' or other HC. upper class can just pay for it. While middle class dont have anything. so a GHC WOULD TRY TO EVEN THE PLAYING FIELD U FUCKING IDIOT! just stfu ok :) & let the adults talk
funny funny funny then funny again. You Fox news viewers are such sheep. Fox news get you worked up then feed books they wrote for you to buy. Answer this.. How many books did these guys write after they get you worked up about Obama? It seems like every week there is two or three books they are pitching.
You sheep need to wake up, these wolves are feeding you garbage just to rape your wallet!
I would MUCH RATHER pay another $50 a month on taxes instead of the $500.00 a month I'm spending just to have health insurance for SINGLE COVERAGE with a $500 deductible, and I'm in perfect health with NO MEDICATIONS. I'm 49 years old. Blue Cross Blue Shield. I sent them my labs from my recent checkup and report-everything was glowing and I said I deserve a discount. So BCBS jacked up the price. And if you ever need it, ALL private insurances will fight you tooth and nail to NOT pay.
i think its all european countrys. We also have private insurance companies but social insurance is still necesary. It also includes your pension plan. And your family member have access to that insurance with no additional costs.
*clearinghouse
22350693521 8 months ago
@777equals666 please, the registry is an FDA initiative that is used as a clearimghouse for data for physicians, not the CIA, and its also to be used in regards to tort reform
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Blue Cross Anthem.....high increase rates didn't work out so well. Insurance commissioner said give it back and wait! ...well all you greedy cocksuckers got a new roommate today! Now all you health insurance companies can fight among each other...on who's got the best rate! You all deserve what our President gave you! for being the non caring greedy bastards you all are! It's Sunday
and you just lost the game! and now the table has turned on you! :)
mortician54 1 year ago 2
lezxotic-- let us donate to the poor on our own terms.. we don't need the government hiking taxes up and telling us what there going to do with our HARD EARNED money.. the government wastes money on nonsense.. look at the "stimulus" bill.. MILLIONS have gone to waste.. move to europe if you want the government to rock your cradle and reward those who choose not to help themselves.
AwokenDreamer323 1 year ago
Something just does not seem right about this. I suspect that we will look back on this someday and say clearly that it was the biggest mistake we ever made as a country. I just get that feeling about it.
crash0veride 1 year ago
@crash0veride Maybe you should try thinking, instead of feeling
loeldean 1 year ago
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Look on page 1001 - 1007 on the current US Health Care Bill and you will see a little program called, "National Medical Device Registry" sponsored by IBM and Positive ID.
Obama and Friends want all Americans to have a microchip implanted into their bodies that will legally allow us to receive Medical Care, Commerce (Purchase Any Items) and Travel Nationally/Internationally.
We get monitored 24 hours a day and as a direct result, lose all privacy and get forced into a New World Order!
777equals666 2 years ago
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Obamacare ? ? ? ... OVER MY DEAD BODY ! .. .. .. gee, I think I'm beginning to get the hang of this liberal shit already .. ..
roscoe85cj 2 years ago
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We have waited for more than 60 years for health care to be reformed. Doing nothing is no longer an option. Please take the time and read the bill for yourselves instead of falling for the lies and scare tactics that are spreading like wild fire. I have posted a link to the bill in the comment section of my profile for those of you who are interested in the truth. Thank you.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
It looks like people hate change for the better. If they are worried about money they don't seem to realize money is man made. Money is made everyday, old ones burned.
People just like to think about themselves and never about others. "United States" my ass.
I don't see anything united about it.
LadyNinjaKagero 2 years ago
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dejalennox 2 years ago
Fellow chief executives!
ns0710 2 years ago
I'm Republican and all America supports Obama and new pass laws coming this year for hope of country. Show American people new laws and bring troops back home.
bass109 2 years ago
OBAMA AMERICA GOOD TIMES ARE COMING UNDER OBAMA, FREEDOM FOR PEOPLE. laws against racists will pass, hope for equality for every person will com
bass109 2 years ago
WHY CAN'T WE HAVE BOTH (universal AND the private sector)??? There ARE other countries that have BOTH with GREAT SUCCESS!!!
igspal 2 years ago
Obama SAID that you CAN have BOTH but the GOP is lying & U are obviously listening to them. PAY ATTENT^ION!
lezxotic 2 years ago
Obama SAID that you CAN have BOTH but the GOP is lying & U are obviously listening to them. PAY ATTENT^ION!
lezxotic 2 years ago
I would say as far as taxpayer investments, seeing as the money obviously gets spent anyway (see preceding paragraph)......not having to worry about going bankrupt anymore whenever you get sick due to the backing of a federal healthcare program seems to make this one a bit more worthwhile investment to the average person and family, no?
alicia234able 2 years ago
Anybody remember when we spent $500 billion dollars in Iraq, or $121,000.00 for every person in the U.S........ and then handed $700 billion dollars to Wall Street after discussing it for like 2 weeks? I can't remember getting anything out of that myself personally. Do you?
Nah. Everyone forgot. Thankfully all of the doomsday dooms these folks are predicting didn't happen then.
alicia234able 2 years ago
This will not be free. Someone will pay for it one way or another. I watched a show today that had a guy who was in charge of 14 hospitals. From what I got out of it there will be less staff and fewer hospitals if all this passes. Also if you have group health care now it will be considered a taxable benifit and will be taxed as income.
avionicswirenut 2 years ago
Their* won't be fewer hospitals, their won't be fewer staff, their won't be fewer anything.
However what WILL happen is that everyone persons taxes will sky rocket to unbelievable amounts to pay for government run health care. It's what occurs in every country that uses this system.
KawaiyoKoji 2 years ago
...as much as we blew in Iraq?
MrJeffpass 2 years ago
If the Peace Corps can afford medical care to natives in Africa, and we can afford to adopt Iraq and rebuild their entire country....surely we can afford to keep our own people healthy without "skyrocketing taxes", "armageddon" and "boogeyman government".
Private healthcare oligarchies are already the most top-heavy bloated beurocracies imaginable with CEOs raking in billion dollar salaries and incredible waste.
So lets just forget it, right?
Unbelievable......
MrJeffpass 2 years ago
a new healthcare system is necessary, but it cannot be government run. the healthcare in canada and britain is terrible, they have to come to the usa to get a surgery because the government forces the patients to wait months for an operation they already paid for with their taxes. why would we want to copy this plan? plus like it or not. the main reason that people go through 10 years of schooling to become a doctor is for the CASH. i am a doctor myself, i would know. some doctors pay will drop.
ihatewhereilive 2 years ago
You are one stupid doctor then.
I think you need to watch a documentary called "Sicko" if you think that the health care in Canada in Britain is terrible.
KawaiyoKoji 2 years ago
Anyone who takes Moore's videos as literal loses all credibility. He speaks and argues in half truths, and literally took the best examples of Universal Health Care and the WORST examples of our privitized care to make his point. How can you even consider that a viable or legitimate argument?
And to all else, want reform? Let's talk about fucking malpractice suites. Sign a waiver so you can't sue after treatment, or pay high prices for the chance to sue, for starters.
KadajXZ 2 years ago
(continued) For those that want an entire overhaul of one of the most important (if not the most important) system in this country, you better damned well think LONG AND HARD about the ramifications, if any, to a universal plan. I'll give you a hint, there ARE cons to universal coverage. It's not all daisy picking and singing coom-bai-yah.
Before I'd even touch this thing with a ten foot pole, I'd want to know SPECIFICS on his plan, which he hasn't released, just like the stimulus debacle...
KadajXZ 2 years ago
the movie sicko was based solely on liberal propoganda. it cannot be trusted as fact. i had an uncle who died because he did not recieve the kidney transplant that he needed. the government turned him away because they said he was to old for it. he had the money and was willing to go through with the transplant but was turned away. i know for a fact that he wasnt to old and an experienced surgeon in the usa could have saved his life.
ihatewhereilive 2 years ago
So what would your greedy *** do to help the un and under-insured? @ 2 date NO republican has offered a solution on anything. Ur not even articulate enough to explain the ways nin which sicko was progaganda.
I don't even believe what u wrote here. Besides undere Obama's plan if you don't want the public option u can KEEP your private insurance so Y R U fear mongering?
lezxotic 2 years ago
i wouldnt know what to do about it, but thats not my job is it? no, im just pointing out the flaws of this health care program. and whether you believe my story or not does not really bother me, as it will not change the truth. plus, could you explain to me how i was not articulate enough in my post? i am a doctor myself and and after 10 years of study i would say i know what im talking about.
ihatewhereilive 2 years ago
and i DO realize that you can have both...all im doing is sharing my concerns. theres no need for this to escalate into something more.
ihatewhereilive 2 years ago
Right and since you wouldn't know what to do with it SHUT UP already because the rest of us are SICK top death of your insipid whining.
After 10 years of studying what? Puhleez spare me.
NO I don't believe your story and since the Pres will not be forcing anyone to change their insurance your bellyaching is moot.
lezxotic 2 years ago
didnt i say that i dont want to argue? ALL I AM DOING IS POINTING OUT MY CONCERNS! and my study was 4 years college, 4 years of med school and 2 years of internship. sacrifices will be made, a public health care plan is not free. its costs alot of tax dollars. and a government run system will not be of the same quality as a private one. you dont even have an argument, so please, stop making one.
ihatewhereilive 2 years ago
I don't cvare that you wrote that you don't want to argue, I am sick of selfish people wantiong to deny others healthcare.
I work, I pay taxes and I am not so sickenlyu greedy that I won't shell out a few extra pennies under the ruse of: "I don't want future generations to be in debt" Or any other feeble excuse. Med School? College? Internship? Yet you are on You Tube beating a DEAD HORSE?
lezxotic 2 years ago
Allot of tax dollars? Give me a break! Do you think you are going to lose 50% of your income to some disadvantaged Latino or African American? PAY UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lezxotic 2 years ago
Don't you think that the goverment is already paying the tab most of the time.The medicare goverment run program is paying far more than any private system. Your malpractice insurance will make you quit your profession and become a lawyer.
appapo3 2 years ago
We can't possibly imagine how a government run program accountable to elections, whose primary goal is to provide -HEALTCHARE-, would not be better and less expensive than a system run by a small oligarchy of companies whose goal is to maximize their own profits- even if they keep people SICK, and is accountable to stockholders. Where are the rallies the press isn't covering? Public healthcare not Corp Welfare! We fear Obama is going to sell out to the insurance sharks and lobbyists
MrJeffpass 2 years ago
sorry, by "we" I meant myself and many people I have talked to. Was limited to 500 characters
MrJeffpass 2 years ago
I admire him as far as I can throw him. A federal healthcare system will be the ruin if us all.
1955gasman 2 years ago
I've got NO healthcare now, couldn't afford it half the time I worked, and when I had it I paid $1100 copays.
And how does this become worse.......?
MrJeffpass 2 years ago
my admiration grows week by week for obama...after 8 years of doing NOTHING but wasting money in Iraq, killing Iraqis, and cutting taxes for everyone which led to the bankruptcy of this country...it's nice to see someone finally spending money and legislating in the right direction...albeit painfully and with great gamble since the previous administration left us with no choice.
dalecampbl5 2 years ago
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Obamagov 2 years ago
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EndOfTimesProphecy 2 years ago
The insurance companies have a problem. Businesses and individuals are canceling insurance coverage because of the high prices. The insurers want the government to force people to buy coverage. However, the insurers do not want competition from a government option. That would force down prices and profits.
4teepee 2 years ago
this is why obama is president and not retards
bass109 2 years ago 2
its the economy stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PatricksTime 2 years ago
In having "socialized medicine," could years from now our federal government abuse it? if that is the case, how worse would we be regarding health care cost, research for curing major or minor diseases, and everything else that does happen in the USA?
bb112266 2 years ago
We can only hope the best for the future but right now we'll bet on federal health care cause todays abuse is in the private sector.
envanje 2 years ago
That is very true. By any means I am not living in the future. Just want to have a wonderful one. :) I personally have full faith in what our President believes in and the great job he is doing. What is my red flag is once something is LAW, it is harder to modify it. By NAFTA and other private sector abuses, we could easily do more damage to ourselves before that future I have mentioned comes to pass.
bb112266 2 years ago
Reconversion of doctors into streetsweepers can be started !
envanje 2 years ago
downtheriverstyx is right,
wouldn't life be a lot more easy and relaxed by accepting sickness and death instead of so desperately fighting the inevitable !
envanje 2 years ago
It's true, M.J. is dead. funny way to escape a trial.
envanje 2 years ago
yeah..its official now. RIP
ZangrilloJordan 2 years ago
downtheriverstyx though has a point cause the number of incompetent doctors in who's hands i don't wanna fall is sheer unlimited.
envanje 2 years ago
thankyou, why do doctors call it "their practice"? because they are practicing on you, medicine affects people differently so they have to practice on you (and i am a nurse btw)
downtheriverstyx 2 years ago
downtheriverstyx
and how shall doctors survive when people prefer to die instead of paying them ?
envanje 2 years ago
Please, we want Universal Single Payer Health Care. We do not want the current private for profit ponzi scheme.
jonnysouthjersey 2 years ago
fuck healthcare, we are nothing more than sophisticated animals, we are not going to live forever, deal with it. if people want good healthcare they need to live more healthy
downtheriverstyx 2 years ago
downtheriverstyx
you certainly don't have a health insurance and with your attitude all doctors would starve by famine.
don't you think your view is a bit extreme ?
envanje 2 years ago
all i'm saying is we all live to die, why try to hold off the inevitable. and btw i many people are already starving in the world
downtheriverstyx 2 years ago
well just because we may be a sophisticated species doesn't mean we let the people with money get all the medicine and let the poor people die and get sick...thats not the way it works, especially in todays modern age.
What we need to do is fuckin socialize healthcare this way we as a nation can become healthier..from high class, lower class, race, gender, whatever! we are all in this together. if a poor person gets sick it can spread to a rich person. Health insurance is very important.
ZangrilloJordan 2 years ago
michael jackson is dead, even if you are rich u will die, it doesn't care about rich or poor
downtheriverstyx 2 years ago
michael jackson dead ? When did he die ?
envanje 2 years ago
today, of cardiac arrest
downtheriverstyx 2 years ago
michael jackson is not dead. so your already wrong. and even though man is mortal we can work together to better the lives of everyone (the initial purpose of a society) and if you break your finger, catch a virus, or anything that happens by chance, we should be able to help fix that. its called Medicine and it should be accessible to everyone. if you don't agree with that then there's nothing left to say...natural selection starts with stupidity and ignorance.
ZangrilloJordan 2 years ago
he is dead google it , it on the news already
downtheriverstyx 2 years ago
i cant find anything officially saying he died. although yes the guy was hospitalized for not breathing there's no word that he passed away..atleast not yet.
ZangrilloJordan 2 years ago
Barack Hussein Obama is the Antichrist.
help deal w/ it
Jesus has come again.
believe it
LeadAngelWarrior 2 years ago
STFU you idiot with your antichrist superstition !
envanje 2 years ago
this is a democracy, if you can't afford it then you can't have so wait, I strongly dislike you obama you are so unexperienced & I cannot wait until you are done your term and I can't wait until you aren't re-elected. OH and by the way, keep the troops in the middle east. WHY PULL OUT?!? THIS WAR IS FOR OIL AND WE NEED THAT OIL.
EekuumBokuum 2 years ago
Democracy has NOTHING to do with affording or not affording ANYthing. That is CAPITALISM, not democracy. How can a parent whose child falls off of a swing and breaks his/her arm WAIT to AFFORD to get it fixed? ALL FIRST TERM PRESIDENTS ARE EQUALLY INEXPERIENCED IN THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT. I thought the Bush Administration told us this war was about weapons of mass destruction and not robbing the Iraqi people of oil that is rightfully theirs.
FrankieFrankenmeiste 2 years ago
wrd
ZangrilloJordan 2 years ago
Health care in the U.S. is all about money.
Health care in civilised countries is about health !
Therefore i support Obama for he wants to break the power of the meds in writing their bill and that of the insurance companies in cashing their premiums.
1,000,000.00 for minor heart surgery and 500.00 monthly for insurance, jeezes are americans so stupid to pay those amounts ? Faaaaaar Overrated !!!!
envanje 2 years ago
I think is the most important goal of this administration.
Evenor48 2 years ago
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Jesus has come again.
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LeadAngelWarrior 2 years ago
I m Nancy Pelosi beetwen other names , state your wishes.
TheDubadubic 2 years ago
So, no more paying health insurance. No more monthly bills of $500+ any longer?
Sounds like Obama is giving us a free trip to paradise!
Jump on board everyone and lets go on that free ride!
And don't forget "sharing the wealth". Nancy Pelosi, Barney Franks and all those rich folks will pay their taxes and we can all stand in line for the free Obama handouts :)
I'm quitting my job!
What a great Government! hahahahahahaha!
xRoXyDivAx 2 years ago
You said it buddy...what I won't tell you is all the people that are killed everyday...and all the falsefication that goes on....Obama is really hitting the nail on the head when he is talking about medical records...Thats where all the lying is going on.
Olla
alfteck 2 years ago 2
Having been a DR. and on the board of a major hospital, I tell you that our medical Industry is a Black Hole of waste and mismanagement. The Doctors will fight tooth and nail to protect their little Kingdoms(hospitals) which are now being run like a fast food bisiness in order to maintain their high purses.
They deserve no considerations.
Olla
alfteck 2 years ago 4
Oh yeah! People with end stage diseases if they are on medicare/medicaid especially with a supplemental they will run every test in the book to diagnose things they can't treat because it's a CASH COW. Milk it baby! And do everything invasive you can imagine-even open heart surgeries on 90 year olds-throw in a biventricular pacemaker and since all that dye caused kidney failure, CRRT-several million dollars. CAAAHINNG!!! Then granny dies in a few weeks. CAACHING!!! Cash cow.
WinterHaven 2 years ago
WinterHaven,
I'd like to get first dibs on my very own personal cash cow.
I want Nancy Pelosi!
She can pay for all my free Obama handouts and my healthcare, heck, she can pay my mortgage too :)
I feeeeel gooooood!
xRoXyDivAx 2 years ago
OK People you guys Dont know how good you guys have it over there even have the benefits of having a hospital. i've been traveling around the globe seen Millions of ppl with no water no healfcare or nothing. Here in Denmark we pay between 41 - 50 % of our paycheck in taxes but there by we dont have to spent a dime on healfcare or Education just ride the wave and pay with the taxes
petervagt 2 years ago
Would you rather pay $500 a month on private insurance like I do with a $500 deductible; or $434 with a $2,000.00 deductible, and that is rapidly going up. I have no health problems, this is for SINGLE coverage (a family plan would easily exceed $1,000.00 a month with a $500 deductible)-so God help you if you are married and have kids. That will wipe you out! Is this system better, or is your Denmark system better. I'm just curious-which do you prefer???
WinterHaven 2 years ago
I would say for The Danish People is it better Couse not only are we getting free healfcare but we are also Covered wile Studing at college or universety example i'm starting at Buiness Collage till august and thats is 3 years free with gratuation at all over and above that i'm getting around 1200 us$ a month from the goverment that is covered by the taxes
petervagt 2 years ago
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The truth about Obama
2xtream 2 years ago
I'm STILL waiting for Obama to get a SHELTER pet for Bo-I hope you realize it costs American tax payers $2.5 BILLION dollars a year to kill perfectly adoptable pets in pounds. California alone spent a quarter of a billion dollars in ONE YEAR to kill pets. Since Obama got this Water dog-puppy mills are breeding them like candy and sales are sky rocking, and for EACH puppy mill or breeder dog bought-ONE DIES IN THE POUND. Buy a dog, you kill a dog. For God's sake-GET BO A COMPANION SHELTER DOG!
WinterHaven 2 years ago
Private insurance is a big rip off. It is quite BEYOND what most people can afford. Employers are now dropping health plans to save money. Considering my private plan is SINGLE, I have NO health problems, and on NO MEDICATIONS-why do I have to pay $500 a MONTH with a $500 deductible just to have health insurance?
WinterHaven 2 years ago
WinterHaven: If you are a young adult with no health issues it is my opinion you are wasting $500 dollars a month. I would rather see you Save the $500 a month. If your 20-40 the odds are in your favor to live healthy for decades. There is always the accident that could happen driving a car. But your car insurance would pay that. So what is the health insurance for? Like I said. You prob dont need to worry about that if you are heath conscience for many decades. Just a thought.
2xtream 2 years ago
But this is another thought-WHAT IF-being mortal, ANYTHING can happen. ONE SINGLE ADMISSION TO THE HOSPITAL: My life savings will be wiped out. Completely. Then I will have to file bankruptcy to keep creditors from hounding me. Yes I am being ripped off, but there is nothing I can do about it. if you have any kind of assets, this health insurance means helping me protect me from bankruptcy. Just a few days in hospital is about $100,000.00 + I know this to be fact.
WinterHaven 2 years ago
winterhvn: I don't get caught up in the hype. I said it was my opinion. You must do what you think is right. I for one am healthy and not interested in wasting $500 a month on a very low chance of anything happening. Like I said, if Im in an auto accident, I
already have health insurance for that. It comes with the auto insurance. I believe the odds are good enough not to worry about heath insurance at this time in my life. The #1 cause of death in America is Abortion. 54 Million and counting
2xtream 2 years ago
So are you telling me it's better to NOT have insurance? A single hospital admission-and ANYTHING can happen-just for a few days averages over $100,000.00 even for minor surgery. ARe you telling me you have that much money you can afford to go without insurance? What if you have some kind of heart problem-a single open heart surgery will cost you about a MILLION dollars. Do you have cash for that?? I'm just curious. And the ONLY reason why I have private insurance-is because I don't need it.
WinterHaven 2 years ago
I am sorry $500 a MONTH? FFS! that is disgusting a healthcare insurance plan should cost about $40 a month and you are being ripped off big time. This is why we must have the public option and Healthcare companies are a complete disgrace and should be forced to bring down their prices. This is just clear profit to them. I am furious!!
Cutchswife 2 years ago 2
You are not going to get health insurance anywhere for $40 a month-NOT EVEN with company benefits. If you do it's rare. Keep in mind this is private insurance-what McCain and Palin were pushing for. That $2,500.00 tax write off won't even pay for one month's premium which I"m forking over from my own bank account-$500 a month is NOT chump change. Just to have insurance. And ALL private insurances WILL fight tooth and nail to NOT pay.
WinterHaven 2 years ago
lets say fuck to each other more! we dont hear that too often in youtube comments :)
sebaz88 2 years ago
My digital camera has an off on switch for sound
No idiot with the sound switch - Something else
44MONTEREY 2 years ago
Fuck all of this debate on Capitol Hill that's restraining us from getting this done. JUST GET IT DONE. Too much debate in Congress and in Washington leads to too much waiting for the American people who desperately need health care.
lildwayne21 2 years ago
gov. sanford..sad sad*******
ANTHONYDVD 2 years ago
Where's Governor Sanford? OOOhh, that's right.
voyeurdug 2 years ago
The governor on the right... makes me laugh.... hahaha. God bless him.
Fellowdc2007 2 years ago
barack obama will go down has the greatest president ever*******
ANTHONYDVD 2 years ago
will see
dragonzord23 2 years ago
XD I needed a good laugh today! Thanks
JMBSM61 2 years ago
Here w e go again with the Idiots in here making dumb Comments...
Go compliment McPalin in their Channel... Biaaatch
TNTJahv1er 2 years ago
Like you
JMBSM61 2 years ago
Actually "dumb comments" are also good. It's a reflection how many people think - adverse criticism is good because you can think of ways to counter it.
WinterHaven 2 years ago
Obama you are a very dumb president! NOBODY wants your Government Run Health Care!!! I can NOT think of one Government Run Program from DMV to CIA that is worth a Shit! We all love the S.S.ofc. and the scanning to even go into through the doors & Mother Vehicles, even the Tax System. OBAMA Stay the Hell out of our Health Care!!! The Government is controling our Medications now, but if you own the doctors we won't even get those. Obama FAIL! No We Won't~
2xtream 2 years ago
You must be a retiree who is on medicare, or on Disability on medicaid so your health care is all provided for-so you have room to bitch. Oh yeah, on the above cases happens to be socialized medicine. Maybe with your theory we should do away with medicare and medicaid and get private insurance. I bet you can't even afford a month's premium, what I have to pay out: Try $500 a month for single coverage and I have no prescriptions and in good health.
WinterHaven 2 years ago
Great job, Mr. President. I stand firmly behind you and continually notice your care for THE PEOPLE of the United States, not just the wealthy elite who have for far too long been over-represented in the government and callous to THE PEOPLE.
EcrossH 2 years ago
Mr. President, I think you need to get the American people to vote on this in a special election to determine if you have complete support from the American people. Also, you should get business and labor to back you and support you on this plan. I'm quite certain you will get a single payer healthcare on the table in no time. I can't imagine any Senator or Congressman willing to give up his job for any special interest when confronted by the voice of the American people.
pongman 2 years ago
I don't like obama but, what he is saying that this is voluntary you don't have to have it and I am a supporter of this
Bechuille 2 years ago
government is supposed to have limited powers. We shouldnt even know it is there 99% of the time.
AEVautomatic 2 years ago 3
Ok, you can stop using roads and schools and the postal service and stop being defended by the military and anyone can strip you of your rights and do whatever they want to you without consequences since you don't want the police to interfere in your life and no water unless you have your own well etc etc etc etc. l2troll imo
ashutten 2 years ago 2
*claps* well said. let them know what their getting from the government. We all know the government isnt the greatest or the best but for god sakes people at least appreciate the good they do or try to do.
Indigjudgement 2 years ago
At least he's spending money on the people instead of getting the pigs fatter - no wonder the Republican symbol is a fat elephant.
WinterHaven 2 years ago
no one wants government heathcare. We will have no choice but to take it. It dosnt even have to be good or make profit. There is no way that any company can compete with someone who can just take money from whoever they like to fund their insurance. A government entety that dosnt need to make a profit cant be compared to something that dose need to nake a profit. The 2 are not on equal terms. its not logical to compare the 2 based on the properties of 1.
AEVautomatic 2 years ago
if they can't compete then let them die! capitalism is survival of the fittest.
If an insurance company isn't strong enough to compete with a big lumbering inefficient gov't, that is SAD
veej309 2 years ago 2
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bass109 2 years ago
*claps* yay now thats what im talking about a Universal health care program, we should have done this a long time ago i mean canada have done it, im sure we can. Now people can stop struggling with all these private health care programs that just rips you off and when you really need them they just push you aside and say "we dont cover that". I hope this gets the green light.
Indigjudgement 2 years ago
indigjudgement: Why dont you government plants playing your lame psyops go play in the sand box. This is a dumb over stepping government and they do not need to screw up our Health Care. We all ready have special provisions in place for those that cant afford it. Those that can have no trouble going to the Doctor of there choice. If a Canadian wants to get something done they come to America. People Wake the Hell Up. Obama: No We Won't!~
2xtream 2 years ago
fuck you
howtodo619 2 years ago
2xtream: I wonder why ur alive ur just basically taking up space and sucking up oxygen. Obama: "No We Won't!" u think that people is going to agree with u 4 saying that? lol idiot. I can understand u'd be scared u ignorant imbecile. Let me teach you something if you shall reply. ppl who cant afford HC have 'chip' or other HC. upper class can just pay for it. While middle class dont have anything. so a GHC WOULD TRY TO EVEN THE PLAYING FIELD U FUCKING IDIOT! just stfu ok :) & let the adults talk
Indigjudgement 2 years ago
What is that noise in the back ground.
It is really distracting and I haven't heard a word said.
44MONTEREY 2 years ago
the clicking of cameras, that is ;)
MoPapparani 2 years ago
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funny funny funny then funny again. You Fox news viewers are such sheep. Fox news get you worked up then feed books they wrote for you to buy. Answer this.. How many books did these guys write after they get you worked up about Obama? It seems like every week there is two or three books they are pitching.
You sheep need to wake up, these wolves are feeding you garbage just to rape your wallet!
anckseya 2 years ago
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Obama just died
Rand0911 2 years ago
OBAMA I LUV U
pwndplayer 2 years ago
It's only possible if we raise the taxes like Canada's....
But seeing as we're bitter because we're poor and don't want to pay taxes anyway, it'll be nothing but hell-raising.
flippinawesomechick 2 years ago
I would MUCH RATHER pay another $50 a month on taxes instead of the $500.00 a month I'm spending just to have health insurance for SINGLE COVERAGE with a $500 deductible, and I'm in perfect health with NO MEDICATIONS. I'm 49 years old. Blue Cross Blue Shield. I sent them my labs from my recent checkup and report-everything was glowing and I said I deserve a discount. So BCBS jacked up the price. And if you ever need it, ALL private insurances will fight you tooth and nail to NOT pay.
WinterHaven 2 years ago
Trust me, I'm not saying it would be a bad thing. I agree with you completely.
flippinawesomechick 2 years ago
Universal health care is possible, look at Canada.
elites0ldier 2 years ago 3
Or most European countries, for that matter...
jtunkelo 2 years ago 2
i think its all european countrys. We also have private insurance companies but social insurance is still necesary. It also includes your pension plan. And your family member have access to that insurance with no additional costs.
Naminukaz 2 years ago
okay
BlackHype 2 years ago
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howtodo619 2 years ago
Why would you "first" a whitehouse video? at least say something relevant, it's not like it's such a huge feat.
DeltaNovemberRomeo 2 years ago 2
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shut up
howtodo619 2 years ago
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Wow, uh huh, okay. I'm not even going to justify that stupidity with a response. I think the comment ratings speak for themselves.
DeltaNovemberRomeo 2 years ago