I have had the pleasure to train with this great man the whole of last week. He flew over together with Hanshi Kisho Inoue and Shihan Ookawa to Sweden where they led a week long seminar. I hope I will get a chance to train with Shihan Okabayashi again.
Sorry I saw the typo after posting. Kisho Inoue is Motokatsu's son who is now the Souke and President of the Ryukyu Kobujutsu Hozon Shinko Kai based in Tokyo.
This is the second Yuishinkai bo kata of which there are a many more. They where pasted down directly from Taira Shinken to Motokatsu Inoue and now to the late Motokatsu Inoue's son Gansho Inoue. Authentic and very traditional. Nice posting, anymore yuishinkai?
On second viewing, I see his is a different style from ours - he finishes the kata by stepping backward, while we always step forward in ours, whatever the weapon...although you do *always* step back in pwang gai noon ryu, the form of karate we do at our dojo! Interesting what small observations can tell you about a form! A lot depends on the sensei's teaching style - we'd never pass testing if we didn't bow before a kata (but after announcing it) and immediately after finishing.
Stylistic variations in performance are very interesting. Although the Rei is not shown at the start of the video it was actually performed,but is missing from the film soz.
Thanks for posting his rei - no kata is complete without it! How stepping backwards or forwards was explained to us is that it is a matter of in-yo: empty hand is more "in" or yin, while anything with a weapon in your hand is more "yo" or yang, so that's what determines it for us.
Cool :) In a way its what you are seeing in your minds eye when performing any kata, as long as you have a visulisation of technical practiclity and you understand the art.
Wow! This is pretty different from the shushi no kon I am learning - does having "dai" in the title mean it would be another kata entirely? Thanks for the video!
The word 'dai' indicates that it is another kata of the same form. Dai means important or Big Sho means small, although somtimes the sho version can be longer with slightly more complexity. Thank you for your comment. :)
I asked Shihan Bolz about this - she said ours is the single old kata, while some kobudo organizations split it into two because of its length. The way Shihan defines them, "sho" means first or beginning (sho dan not only means first level, it also means beginning level), while "dai" can mean ordinal as in second, but also main. Even more than English, Japanese words don't have single definitions!
Abt the two Shushi No Kun Katas... I hv heard, in Okinawa, there exsited many Kobudo kata early days, bt Kobudo was not systamized.. When they saw kata in a village festival from town ppl, they named their kata also with that name.. These kind of things made same kata with different names or vise versa.. Same thing in Karate also, for example, Jion, Sochin, Unsu, Seisan has many different versions (I mean entirely difrn versions).. Kobudo systamized recently..
Also we must not forget that the written kanji is pronounced verey diffrently from China, Okinawa and Japan, even though it looks the same on paper. This is also a problem for researchers of Oriental martial arts.
As I know both of those kata are called Shushi No Kun in Okinawa. I learnt the short kata in my previous style and now I practice long kata with my current style. I'm not sure whether any traditional school of Kobudo in Okinawa has both two kata (I'm not talking abt new schools, who collected kata from different traditions). I think two of these kata came from two traditions, two lineages..
there are many versions of kobudo kata, from this kata i have seen 17 different versions. still the core(soul) in these kata's remains the same. this is one of the best. also due to the mystical music
go to wdotvandennieuwendijkdotnl and than to meer informatie, and than to 4e kyu there are some pictures of this kata. they do the kata very poor but they have good kime. if you do some more kime in your kata it will be much better
I have had the pleasure to train with this great man the whole of last week. He flew over together with Hanshi Kisho Inoue and Shihan Ookawa to Sweden where they led a week long seminar. I hope I will get a chance to train with Shihan Okabayashi again.
HarrisLman 3 years ago 3
Shihan Okabayashi is in Tokyo NOT Okinawa.
There is Shuji no Kon Sho, Shuji no Kon Dai and also "old style": Shuji no Koshiki
nicedude2004 4 years ago
Cool maybe my mistake, but it was announced that he was from Okinawa on the programme soz.
dejathorus 4 years ago
Sorry I saw the typo after posting. Kisho Inoue is Motokatsu's son who is now the Souke and President of the Ryukyu Kobujutsu Hozon Shinko Kai based in Tokyo.
dukuduku32 4 years ago
Cool no worries :)
dejathorus 4 years ago
This is the second Yuishinkai bo kata of which there are a many more. They where pasted down directly from Taira Shinken to Motokatsu Inoue and now to the late Motokatsu Inoue's son Gansho Inoue. Authentic and very traditional. Nice posting, anymore yuishinkai?
dukuduku32 4 years ago
On second viewing, I see his is a different style from ours - he finishes the kata by stepping backward, while we always step forward in ours, whatever the weapon...although you do *always* step back in pwang gai noon ryu, the form of karate we do at our dojo! Interesting what small observations can tell you about a form! A lot depends on the sensei's teaching style - we'd never pass testing if we didn't bow before a kata (but after announcing it) and immediately after finishing.
hempev 4 years ago
Stylistic variations in performance are very interesting. Although the Rei is not shown at the start of the video it was actually performed,but is missing from the film soz.
dejathorus 4 years ago
Thanks for posting his rei - no kata is complete without it! How stepping backwards or forwards was explained to us is that it is a matter of in-yo: empty hand is more "in" or yin, while anything with a weapon in your hand is more "yo" or yang, so that's what determines it for us.
hempev 4 years ago
Cool :) In a way its what you are seeing in your minds eye when performing any kata, as long as you have a visulisation of technical practiclity and you understand the art.
dejathorus 4 years ago
Wow! This is pretty different from the shushi no kon I am learning - does having "dai" in the title mean it would be another kata entirely? Thanks for the video!
hempev 4 years ago
The word 'dai' indicates that it is another kata of the same form. Dai means important or Big Sho means small, although somtimes the sho version can be longer with slightly more complexity. Thank you for your comment. :)
dejathorus 4 years ago
I asked Shihan Bolz about this - she said ours is the single old kata, while some kobudo organizations split it into two because of its length. The way Shihan defines them, "sho" means first or beginning (sho dan not only means first level, it also means beginning level), while "dai" can mean ordinal as in second, but also main. Even more than English, Japanese words don't have single definitions!
hempev 4 years ago
Abt the two Shushi No Kun Katas... I hv heard, in Okinawa, there exsited many Kobudo kata early days, bt Kobudo was not systamized.. When they saw kata in a village festival from town ppl, they named their kata also with that name.. These kind of things made same kata with different names or vise versa.. Same thing in Karate also, for example, Jion, Sochin, Unsu, Seisan has many different versions (I mean entirely difrn versions).. Kobudo systamized recently..
aiko4321 4 years ago
Also we must not forget that the written kanji is pronounced verey diffrently from China, Okinawa and Japan, even though it looks the same on paper. This is also a problem for researchers of Oriental martial arts.
dejathorus 4 years ago
As I know both of those kata are called Shushi No Kun in Okinawa. I learnt the short kata in my previous style and now I practice long kata with my current style. I'm not sure whether any traditional school of Kobudo in Okinawa has both two kata (I'm not talking abt new schools, who collected kata from different traditions). I think two of these kata came from two traditions, two lineages..
aiko4321 4 years ago
Nice. Any chance of posting a vid of you doing your Bojutsu.
:)
dejathorus 4 years ago
there are many versions of kobudo kata, from this kata i have seen 17 different versions. still the core(soul) in these kata's remains the same. this is one of the best. also due to the mystical music
kaifinn 4 years ago
This is Shu Shi No Kon Dai
the50s60s70s 4 years ago
This is a Yushin Kai Bo Kata performed by the
6th Dan Toshio Okabayashi from Okinawa However the name of this kata is not known thank you for your comments
dejathorus 4 years ago
go to wdotvandennieuwendijkdotnl and than to meer informatie, and than to 4e kyu there are some pictures of this kata. they do the kata very poor but they have good kime. if you do some more kime in your kata it will be much better
kaifinn 4 years ago
very nice. is this sushi no dai?
kaifinn 4 years ago