I'm so glad that Dr. Dyson brought up the fact that supportive black fathers have ALWAYS been around...many people just were not exposed to it especially people of other races. I'm SO HAPPY HE MADE THAT POINT!
@michael616joaquin or you can say people fall into that spot because of the stereotype. Studies have shown people will accomplish what you expect them to accomplish. If a teacher expects little from a student odds are that student won't grow much.
@michael616joaquin it was in the urban review in '68, The Journal of education in '82, They redid the experiment to make it more concrete and get rid of some unintentional variables and was published in The Current Direction of Psychological Science in '94
I agree with the professor...the media is very skewed towards making blacks out to be worse off, and, therefore, people believe that this is fact and the perpetuation of pain continues.
I LOVED WHEN THE WHITE YOUNG LADY SPOKE UP TO THE MERE FACT OF THE SOCIALLY ENGINEERED REALITY OF THE INDUSTRIAL MEDIA COMPLEX AND SOCIETY ABROAD THAT STILL TRY VERY HARD TO PAINT THIS CAMPAIGN OF BLK MEN AS PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER 1. WHEN IN FACT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RECENT HISTORY IN THIS COUNTRY OF THE 20TH CENTURY THE WORDS HOODLUM, GANGSTER, THUG, APPLIED TO IRISH, ITALIAN, POLISH AND GERMAN JEWS, WHO WERE KILLING , EXPLOITING, ROBBING, BEATING, BOMBING, WHILE CARVING OUT WHITE PARADISE(TURF).
Excuse me but my dad actually spends a lot of time outside with us! I have a 3 younger brothers and whenever I look outside who do I see?? My dad and 3 brothers of mine!! Shocking!!!
My dad is the epitome of a real man to me. I guess that's why all the negative stereotypes about black men never really affected me because my dad is the perfect role model. The man who marries me someday will have a very high standard to meet. Not that I'll be prejudiced if no man can compare, but at least I know how I should be treated like the princess that I am.
money is an important part of raising a child, but i agree spending quality time with your child is substantially more important in that child's life, so i think a dead beat dad is a man that doesn't give his child the attention and love they need and deserve
A couple of quotes from that study mentioned by Michael Eric Dyson:
QUOTE: "Nonmarital and nonresidential fathering is most common in the United States
among African American families, and has grown dramatically in recent years among Latino groups as well (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services,1999). Yet among unmarried fathers, African American men are most likely to sustain contact with their children when they do not coreside...."
QUOTE 2: "Furthermore, research suggests that nonresident African American and Latino fathers may be more involved than their White counterparts in areas of parental involvement such as decision making and discussions with their adolescents."
So obviously black men aren't as deadbeat as the media likes to portray. The problem is that people are confusing two things... just because 70 pct of BW have children OOW does NOT mean that those fathers aren't in the picture.
I'm glad Dr Dyson said what he said, because it's not that their aren't any black men like that. It's just the pimp,thug and gangster are more mainstream and out there then other images. My family constantly talked about about politics and history growing up from the time I can remember and I'm glad they did because it shaped me as a person. I'm thankful for all the black men in my life that loved and protected me because without them I wouldn't be the young lady I am today <3 =)
my family is very into politics and i think because of this i learned so much at a young age idc about other black families but mine in particular is very into politics safety and health more than what my white friends family. recently my friend got pregnant and her family never even gave her the sex talk so now she got kicked out her house having no where to go. we took her in ofcourse but my family gave her the tough love treatment
What about the black school in Memphis that had 90 (unrelated) teenage births in one school year? But I do like how this panel is pretty much saying "there's some problems, but it's been blown out of proportion"
@juaquino Tell me about it! I just dig him to bitty-bits! I like how in touch he is with modernity. He has what I call a great equilibrium between academic teachings and the ever progressive societal changes, events of the world. His thoughts are always well conveyed. His oratorical sensitivity and sophistication is very fresh,and sprightly Its approach is not stifled and too upright. That's an excellent appeal for a speaker such as himself!
wooow, this was an interesting debate i was loving it. Professor Dyson rhetoric is absolutely distinguished and i now i feel like getting a degree in Socialogy woow he speaks the truth and he says what people need to hear.wow
see white women know that black men have low self esteem and they know how to treat them a certain way...they take advantage of it....they know what their doing..they feel like they are " the man" and they can do anything lol...fucked up people
Ladies of any race need to use birth control more & be protected. Its you having the baby so make sure your are in stable relationship first. This was one of Tyra's better shows IMO. Much better than her typical trashy topics. There are many black couples in good relationships but the media doesn't show much of it. My neighboor's are black with 3 kids & we live in an upper class area. I think a lot has to do with the kind of person you are, your opportunities & where u live.
is this dam show all abaut barak obama no its not its abaut stereotype abaut black men yet tyra doesnt teach that i wanna see something that doesnt involve obama and if it does not abaut him beinng black we already know that !!! thank you
@oodles12 I dont wanna pick a fight but I have to say something. My father works his but off to make his family happy. Yes, I am half-white, half-black. My father is black, and he puts ALL of his time into his family. So does my mother, so your comment on how the black guy usually leaves, is what I believe, to be like you said, absolute bullshit.
he's so right about the media exposure on black men. lots of african men actually most stay with their kids. its unheard of to leave the woman struggling
@jondelos what are you talking about? please read before responding. I didn't say black men, I said African men. And yes I have MANY African relatives and friends in London and lived there myself before moving to the states.
Michael Eric Dyson is right white guys do the same thing but they are never put on front street as to why they do not take care of their children. Its always about putting down Black men period but never talk about the multitudes of Black men who do take care of their own children.
@jondelos Well thats because you guys are not victims of racism your people have never been oppressed by us but we are oppressed by powerful whites all of the time. There really is no comparison at all I mean thats like a rich kid talking about how his life was hard on the streets lol. We all know thats BULL because he does not have it hard on any streets because he is not from the streets and because of his privilages he will never face what a boy on the streets will face period.
@SuperZeitGeist1 White guys don't do the same thing. 70% of black kids are born out of wedlock compared to only about 20% of white kids. There are dead beat dads of all races but black men are the biggest percentage of dead beat dads.
@jc02151 First off white guys do the exact same thing and someone should of told you that stats are not nor have they ever been accurate I know that for a fact so those percentages you just brought up are way off...
@SuperZeitGeist1 Please, your a little baby. If someone offends you or your race, you start being an uppity little bitch and pull out the race card. The matter of the fact is, 72% of black babys are born unto unwed mothers.
Why don't you go march with the CURRENT- day Black Panthers? Those guys are some real race baiters.
@wowzers57 Please my ass you filthy cock sucker you came here to race bait period asshole and the Panthers are hardly race baiters and that comment of yours is completely false because most blacks have children in wed lock. Those so called stats are not accurate because each year they change into another totally different lie so how can I possibly believe them. Thats right I dont!
@wowzers57 Yes, but there are in fact MORE white families without fathers! Black people only make up around 14 percent of the total us population, so 70% of the black population vs 30% of a much LARGER popullation is a huuuuuuge difference. Be wary of your statistics. That's all I'm sayin, && Where are you getting your sources?
@martystreets If it was useless, Gays wouldn't be fighting for their right to marry. If you don't want to get married.... then don't. I personally agree with you.
Still, just because you believe it's useless to you, doesn't mean it's useless to others. Including Christianity. Atheist are the same as overzealous christians. You lambaste anything you don't believe in.
@wowzers57 its better than killing people bcuz they don't believe the same shit! christianity and other monotheistic religions have done alot of that! things atheist and agnostic dont do. thats the reason why im agnostic religion along with its ideals about how human should live their life is wrong
@martystreets Thats in the past. I don't know what country you reside in but here in the U.S, there aren't any crusades going on some Lewis-Clark Expedition killing non-believers.
And I can assure you, an atheist would have committed crimes against humanity back in the days. Religion was a veil for murder at that time to achieve a purpose, whatever it may be. Any one person bent on something, be it through malicious ways, can accomplish it.
@martystreets And what did you mean by "thats the reason why im agnostic religion along with its ideals about how human should live their life is wrong"
I don't have children, but Black women, why do we get pregnant, and "lie" like the dad isn't there, but he's doing the best that he can, and then put him on child support, and ask for extra money? We need to stop that because he's not going to stay if you do that.
lol... i think anyone white black whatever would agree that her brother is a dead beat dad... If your a dad and have been in and out of jail your a deadbeat no matter what race you are
I love what dyson said "time doesnt cost anything, if you nuture them on love and meaningful interactions that child will grow up knowing that his father wasnt always financially able but he was emotionally. So for those deadbeats out there, theres no fuckin excuse for not being there for your seed. and ppl wonder why these kids grow up to rob and kill and make bad dating decisions that that lead back to the same shit. Its a vicious cycle. Its time to take your place fathers We can't do it alone
It's not about the color of your skin. If you don't take care of responsibilities and are not around for your child then that makes you an irresponsible human being. Color shouldn't come into the equation... good on all the black and white men for taking care of your responsibilities :)
It's not about the color of your skin. If you don't take care of responsibilities and are not around for your child then that makes you an irresponsible human being. Color shouldn't come into the equation... good on all the black and white men for taking care of your responsibilities :)
dude please pardon me but , i am not understanding this, How can u be in debt, I was international Student who was paying 8000 dollars just to pay my fees in USA, I was living in shit hole, sharing my bed rooms with other students, eating not eating , not going out with my friends so i can save money, This is wt i did to get better life.... cant u do same thing.... you guys only pay 2000 for semester + u get scholarships....
Yeah there are 17 girls in Massachusetts having babies, but there are 17,000 ethnic women having abortions everyday. Abortions that people who actually have jobs, pay for with their tax dollars. Why is that hush hush? Why aren't they talking about poverty and crime and food stamps and the media on their beloved bet? their shows preach "thug life is the good life. fuck whoever and it ain't no thang" and they wonder why everyone thinks black women and men are ghetto crack head hood rats.
@girl123interrupted funny how ppl overlook the white girl pregnancy pact just to point a finger at black folks yet again. Im ethnic I never ever had an abortion im antiabortion to the fullest. Never been pregnant. You only choose to see ethnic ppl doing the shit and not white ppl. That pregnancy pact was stupid as hell admit it.
I am not saying caucasion's aren't at falt as well, but statistically its the ethnic races having two and three kids, and living off of the state. I didn't care about it until I started working at 16 and learned that part of my tax dollars are going to the trailer park's in my stateso the (whatever race) girl can sit on her ass with her meth head boyfriend & pop out asmany kids as she possibly can before her 21st birthday. When the numbers are 17 girls in Mass vs, 17,000 in chicago its like wtf!
@sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf Dyson is a pseudo intellectual. He pulls shit out of his ass all the time. He is where he is because he is black. If he was white, he'd be working at Burger King.
@jc02151 Oh here we go again another miserable dumbass white person trying to play a race card lol. You know its funny to me how whites like you have no problem being on top over anyone who isn't white but as soon as the tables turn then you have a problem with it hmmmm? You are nothing but a dumbass white supremacist period your comment about Blacks are all untrue and backed by bigotry pure and simple.
@jamash1914 Oh you know me bro I breaks it down homie you see I don't have time to sugar coat things for people I have to bring the fire storm in the form of the truth homie...
@jc02151 no, dyson is where he is because of his intelligence.............and i know plenty of black people who work at mcdonalds, and they are either uneducated, in high school, or a college student trying to make ends meet
The perception of the black man will not change unless so long as so many black men are happy to live up to negative racial stereotypes in the name of "keeping it real". Not only that, but ingrates like Lil' Wayne and 50 Cent make their money by trading off negative stereotypes of their own people. Thus, black men need to stop selling themselves short, and stop supporting others that do.
@inphanta I agree...its true not all but a significant amount. Lil Wayne and 50 are like mr. bojangles, black face for the corporate white men. But it is deeper than that the Corporate White men enable them to do so. If they wanted an album about peace and black love they wouldnt let them put that album out. Its really the men behind the scenes.
@NuwaniDeNubianLadyIE Yes, it's all a conspiracy. You're a dumb black CUNT. Blacks kill each other and whites in record numbers everyday and you're talking about black love. Black men = losers and conquered people. Considering all the shit black put whites through everyday, you all should be lucky we even let you make records. Do us a favor bitch/
@jc02151 wow , you are SO ignorant and it's like , crazy that you feel that way , and you said " black Men conquered people" yea they do...lol white people see since white people are talkin they b.s and stuff we got EVERY red neck afraid of black people and you shouldn't even be but u are , so we got the y'all trained now and I laugh and little remarks like this because it shows your lack of knowledge and your WORTH to america which is nothing, u don't belong here.
@jc02151 considerin black ppl built this country u should b thankful for us period. its the white man that was scared of us in the first place. white people = scared and ignorant
@inphanta Yes and the perception that whites are racist hypocrites wont change as long as whites keep living up to the negative stereotype of judging blacks for things they do themselves. Whites cant keep doing drugs like paris hilton having children out wedlock like bristol palin but then think they have a right to make broadbrush conclusions becuz of black celebrities but arent holding white celebrities to the same standard. So whites need to quit being arrogant and take the log out their eye
BLACK WOMEN ARE THE DEVILS CHILDREN, PILLED WITH EVIL, DARKNESS. I WAS BORN ALONE, I AM GONA DIE ALONE.
BLACK WOMEN NEED TO GET OUT OF MY FACE, AND GET OUT OF MY WAY, the new BLACK MALE PANTHERS. WE HATE BLACK WOMEN, WE LOV WOMEN FROM OTHER RACES AND OUR GOAL IS TOO SEE THE BLACK WOMEN FAT 300 POUNDS ALONE A CAT LADY. BITCH I HOPE YOU DIE TOMORROW black women want a war with black men ,find then watch us drop 20 hiroshima bombs on this black hoes.world war,3,4 and 5 hoes
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that light skin man with glasses made some good points.....but as a side note I think his a little gay some of the things he said and the way he put things just seemed homo.
Boston Study shows that black fathers who do not stay at home spend more time with their kids more than any other race.. Do you beleive that??? Who was doing that study?? There is no way that is a fact because otherwise women would not complain. I seriously doubt they spend more time than Hispanic men.
Boston Study shows that black fathers who do not stay at home spend more time with their kids more than any other race.. Do you beleive that??? Who was doing that study?? There is no way that is a fact because otherwise women would not complain. I seriously doubt they spend more time than Hispanic men.
Boston Study shows that black fathers who do not stay at home spend more time with their kids more than any other race.. Do you beleive that??? Who was doing that study?? There is no way that is a fact because otherwise women would not complain. I seriously doubt they spend more time than Hispanic men.
I totally agree. They act like no other black men have been upstanding people before Obama became president. I also don't unerstand why people are telling men to be there for their children while simultaneously allowing the courts and sometimes their children's mothers to push them out of their children's lives. If they had some rights as parents maybe they would be there for their children.
wow...they compared about 6 situations to obama "the ideal blk man" obama this obama that...find some other examples and leaders or get a gotdamn mind of your own...he cant and wont save every black person that needs guidance in life...
I agree with your sentiment (although you said it a lil more aggressively than would seem necessary). Obama is valuable and I believe he will prove to be even more so ...but he is not the Alpha and the Omega....and neither is King.
hmmmm....once again a white woman comes to the black mans defense, uhh huh.
and does obama challenge women to be better mothers....of curse not.
and seriously, the baby mama calling him a deadbeat, who the hell in there right or wrong mind is going to listen to that bias
as for the fool that's taking care of another mans kids....the only thing she is going t learn is that she can have kids when ever with who ever cause some fool is going to come save her from her foolish choice
@TENNSUMITSUMA: Your cynicism is baffling. So you think the guy being with a woman he loves despite her having a child from a previous relationship whom he clearly cares about and treats as his own is a BAD thing. And so what if the woman "defending black men" was white? She made a very valid point: black men are singled out for doing the same things as everybody else. That it was a white person who pointed this out makes it all the more compelling.
@TENNSUMITSUMA: That was a spectacularly feeble way of dodging the questions. Oh, and should you ever consult a dictionary in your life, you'll discover that "ignorant" does not mean "someone who happens disagree with your position on an issue".
2 can u point out where (EXACTLY) i said ignorant does mean 'someone who happens disagree with your position on an issue' id like 2 c it. as im willing to bet left & right nut that i didn't
now 2 answer your foolish questions
1 yes i do think its a bad thing (bad try with the wording btw)
2 so what if shes white? so nothing, so y is it that every other groups (especially indian & asian) the women defend their men till proven wrong, not so with BW
Dude, there is nothing wrong with calling your friends brother. That is a term of endearment and I don't see how anyone could take offense to that unless you say it with a condescending sarcasm.
no it's not wrong...i see my white guy friends call our black guy friends bro all the time...if u can find friends in life that you feel close enough to think of them as family..that's awesome :)
I'm a black guy struggling to pay for college. Most blacks would've dropped out already to go sell drugs but i'm hangging in there even tho i'm 3000 in debt. with no source of money.
That is not sad... there is NOTHING sad about being a fighter... I have to applaud you because you are in the minority " a black guy struggling to pay for college". What is sad is that you don't hear that everyday, you are right most black guys would drop out and sell drugs... its a harsh reality but I commend you for simply doing you... Indeed you are a real man... God Bless you xx
I mean there isn't anything better to do out there. It's fucking sad that young black kids have to rely on sports to make. it doesn't always work. sometimes i think about and just shake my head.
well now i woudn't say most black men would drop out to sell drugs mabe just decide to just drop out, But his situation would be tough for anyone to handle. That's sort of putting black men all in the same hole right there saying they would sell drugs if they drop out. Mabe some decide to join the military and then go back to school and use the military to pay for it that's a honorable profession and your education is paid for not everyone wants to do that but it is an option for a lot of guys.
Hey you know what keep at it. I've had two of my brothers (both black) go through college and yes they were racking up debt but they kept at it. Now they have degrees and have good paying jobs. Don't let the debt get to you. Think about it as a long term investment. Having a degree opens many opportunities for you, You may not see it now but believe me you will get that reward in the future.
@Eurky89 it's stupid fucking comments like that. Most blacks would've dropped out? FALSE! the amount of blacks that would've dropped out happen to be the minority you moron. it's just that the way the world and people work. they focus more attention on negativity and with all the mention of it it seems like its the majority BUT ALAS it is not.
I'm so glad that Dr. Dyson brought up the fact that supportive black fathers have ALWAYS been around...many people just were not exposed to it especially people of other races. I'm SO HAPPY HE MADE THAT POINT!
meaninghasnomeaning 1 month ago
@5:05 whose to say his step daughter will choose a man, he should say choose a partner :P .
PencilOverPen 1 month ago
the first guy sounds like lil wayne
EX0TiCA25 1 month ago
"And let the church say"
ALL "AMEENNNN~~~!"
xDDD
YukiBanTaichou 2 months ago 3
that Dr would make an awesome rapper
alexmusteatpie2 2 months ago 8
Stereotypes exist for a reason. Look at the stats.
michael616joaquin 3 months ago
@michael616joaquin Most stats are incredibly biased
KittyKimtheBunny 1 month ago
@KittyKimtheBunny lmao you're an idiot..
michael616joaquin 1 month ago
@michael616joaquin Only sometimes OuO
KittyKimtheBunny 1 month ago
@michael616joaquin or you can say people fall into that spot because of the stereotype. Studies have shown people will accomplish what you expect them to accomplish. If a teacher expects little from a student odds are that student won't grow much.
smallche1 6 days ago
@smallche1 what studies? by who? name them
michael616joaquin 6 days ago
@michael616joaquin Robert Rosenthal the expectation effect
smallche1 6 days ago
@smallche1 is it peer reviewed and by what body?
michael616joaquin 6 days ago
@michael616joaquin it was in the urban review in '68, The Journal of education in '82, They redid the experiment to make it more concrete and get rid of some unintentional variables and was published in The Current Direction of Psychological Science in '94
smallche1 6 days ago
like in church say - ''AAAMEEEN" !!
nastik1987 3 months ago 6
Love this whole series
Quione89 4 months ago
I agree with the professor...the media is very skewed towards making blacks out to be worse off, and, therefore, people believe that this is fact and the perpetuation of pain continues.
rassledassle82 4 months ago
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the first guy looks stoned O.o
9spinedhedgehog 5 months ago
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9spinedhedgehog 5 months ago
I think its beautifull how they all each other 'brothers' and 'sisters'
9wingedangel 6 months ago 8
I LOVED WHEN THE WHITE YOUNG LADY SPOKE UP TO THE MERE FACT OF THE SOCIALLY ENGINEERED REALITY OF THE INDUSTRIAL MEDIA COMPLEX AND SOCIETY ABROAD THAT STILL TRY VERY HARD TO PAINT THIS CAMPAIGN OF BLK MEN AS PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER 1. WHEN IN FACT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RECENT HISTORY IN THIS COUNTRY OF THE 20TH CENTURY THE WORDS HOODLUM, GANGSTER, THUG, APPLIED TO IRISH, ITALIAN, POLISH AND GERMAN JEWS, WHO WERE KILLING , EXPLOITING, ROBBING, BEATING, BOMBING, WHILE CARVING OUT WHITE PARADISE(TURF).
davisismail1comcast 6 months ago 9
Let the church say!!!
BenJaminTunes 6 months ago
the first dude sounds like lil wayne
Andrewlv80 7 months ago 8
mmmm stevie kaye's pretty fiiine
AceofDlamonds 7 months ago
@AceofDlamonds Really?
rassledassle82 4 months ago
@AceofDlamonds agreed
gerberbaby281 3 months ago
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AceofDlamonds 7 months ago
Excuse me but my dad actually spends a lot of time outside with us! I have a 3 younger brothers and whenever I look outside who do I see?? My dad and 3 brothers of mine!! Shocking!!!
missrosepedal5 8 months ago 9
My dad is the epitome of a real man to me. I guess that's why all the negative stereotypes about black men never really affected me because my dad is the perfect role model. The man who marries me someday will have a very high standard to meet. Not that I'll be prejudiced if no man can compare, but at least I know how I should be treated like the princess that I am.
lemonde49 8 months ago 11
money is an important part of raising a child, but i agree spending quality time with your child is substantially more important in that child's life, so i think a dead beat dad is a man that doesn't give his child the attention and love they need and deserve
TattooChick09 8 months ago 6
This is the study that M.E.D. is talking about:
STUDY: Reciprocal Longitudinal Relations Between Nonresident Father Involvement
and Adolescent Delinquency
BY; Rebekah Levine Coley and Bethany L. Medeiros, Boston College
SOURCE: Child Development, January/February 2007, Volume 78, Number 1, Pages 132 147
marcdaddy33 8 months ago
Part 2
A couple of quotes from that study mentioned by Michael Eric Dyson:
QUOTE: "Nonmarital and nonresidential fathering is most common in the United States
among African American families, and has grown dramatically in recent years among Latino groups as well (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services,1999). Yet among unmarried fathers, African American men are most likely to sustain contact with their children when they do not coreside...."
marcdaddy33 8 months ago
Part 3
QUOTE 2: "Furthermore, research suggests that nonresident African American and Latino fathers may be more involved than their White counterparts in areas of parental involvement such as decision making and discussions with their adolescents."
So obviously black men aren't as deadbeat as the media likes to portray. The problem is that people are confusing two things... just because 70 pct of BW have children OOW does NOT mean that those fathers aren't in the picture.
marcdaddy33 8 months ago 4
@Ranzalove I completely agree!
vnello123 9 months ago
i think often black ppl are more focused on familiy and relationships with them
geppegep 9 months ago
he's a deadbeat! if the boy lives with his mother, then her expenses are much more than his.
MegaTyte99 9 months ago
Kill the Willie Lynch system!!
LordExodus76 9 months ago 5
I'm glad Dr Dyson said what he said, because it's not that their aren't any black men like that. It's just the pimp,thug and gangster are more mainstream and out there then other images. My family constantly talked about about politics and history growing up from the time I can remember and I'm glad they did because it shaped me as a person. I'm thankful for all the black men in my life that loved and protected me because without them I wouldn't be the young lady I am today <3 =)
Ranzalove 9 months ago 37
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cazopy 9 months ago
my family is very into politics and i think because of this i learned so much at a young age idc about other black families but mine in particular is very into politics safety and health more than what my white friends family. recently my friend got pregnant and her family never even gave her the sex talk so now she got kicked out her house having no where to go. we took her in ofcourse but my family gave her the tough love treatment
chrichri105 10 months ago 3
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Feared Osama? Now Fear GOD!
Judgment Day is May 21
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dimstar4now 10 months ago
I think there will always be bad perceptions of men in general, but i think Obama inspires every man out there to live above those perceptions
flyoffdaice 10 months ago
What about the black school in Memphis that had 90 (unrelated) teenage births in one school year? But I do like how this panel is pretty much saying "there's some problems, but it's been blown out of proportion"
yankees032778 10 months ago
CHRISTIANITY
martystreets 11 months ago
white people got nanny
reheakeireify 11 months ago
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emperor536 11 months ago
Dr. Dyson is on THE BALL
fleothick 11 months ago
lol, i think tyra likes that brotha.
artsyfartsy091 1 year ago
Lmfao, that guy sounds like Gangstalicious from the Boondocks!!
HowToGetFreebies 1 year ago
Dr. Dyson = Eloquent Swag. I love how intelligent he is.
juaquino 1 year ago 205
@juaquino I like how he articulates and flows with his eloquent swag. I'm articulate but Dr. Dyson is really proficient in articulating.
Thedarksecret1 1 year ago 2
@juaquino Tell me about it! I just dig him to bitty-bits! I like how in touch he is with modernity. He has what I call a great equilibrium between academic teachings and the ever progressive societal changes, events of the world. His thoughts are always well conveyed. His oratorical sensitivity and sophistication is very fresh,and sprightly Its approach is not stifled and too upright. That's an excellent appeal for a speaker such as himself!
MikiOkMu 10 months ago
wooow, this was an interesting debate i was loving it. Professor Dyson rhetoric is absolutely distinguished and i now i feel like getting a degree in Socialogy woow he speaks the truth and he says what people need to hear.wow
freestyle7p 1 year ago
see white women know that black men have low self esteem and they know how to treat them a certain way...they take advantage of it....they know what their doing..they feel like they are " the man" and they can do anything lol...fucked up people
Nappitude21 1 year ago
Ladies of any race need to use birth control more & be protected. Its you having the baby so make sure your are in stable relationship first. This was one of Tyra's better shows IMO. Much better than her typical trashy topics. There are many black couples in good relationships but the media doesn't show much of it. My neighboor's are black with 3 kids & we live in an upper class area. I think a lot has to do with the kind of person you are, your opportunities & where u live.
sugerless20 1 year ago
Most black men are losers and bad guys.
jc02151 1 year ago
is this dam show all abaut barak obama no its not its abaut stereotype abaut black men yet tyra doesnt teach that i wanna see something that doesnt involve obama and if it does not abaut him beinng black we already know that !!! thank you
soribel360 1 year ago
@oodles12 I dont wanna pick a fight but I have to say something. My father works his but off to make his family happy. Yes, I am half-white, half-black. My father is black, and he puts ALL of his time into his family. So does my mother, so your comment on how the black guy usually leaves, is what I believe, to be like you said, absolute bullshit.
Bloomfire351 1 year ago
I have a father and mother marries 40 years in my house hold damn what the the hells going on in this generation.
OfficialKohieArts 1 year ago
This episode is epic,
the black guy at 4:38 in a blck jumper is HOT! :3
6jazmin6 1 year ago 3
he's so right about the media exposure on black men. lots of african men actually most stay with their kids. its unheard of to leave the woman struggling
oodles12 1 year ago 6
@oodles12
asolute bullshit. most black men leave their Gf's. it's rare to see black familys with the fathr about. in London it is anyway...
jondelos 1 year ago
@jondelos what are you talking about? please read before responding. I didn't say black men, I said African men. And yes I have MANY African relatives and friends in London and lived there myself before moving to the states.
oodles12 1 year ago
Michael Eric Dyson is right white guys do the same thing but they are never put on front street as to why they do not take care of their children. Its always about putting down Black men period but never talk about the multitudes of Black men who do take care of their own children.
SuperZeitGeist1 1 year ago 8
@SuperZeitGeist1
same how we never talk of how whites are the victims of racism. we just have to talk about blacks.
jondelos 1 year ago
@jondelos Well thats because you guys are not victims of racism your people have never been oppressed by us but we are oppressed by powerful whites all of the time. There really is no comparison at all I mean thats like a rich kid talking about how his life was hard on the streets lol. We all know thats BULL because he does not have it hard on any streets because he is not from the streets and because of his privilages he will never face what a boy on the streets will face period.
SuperZeitGeist1 1 year ago
@SuperZeitGeist1 White guys don't do the same thing. 70% of black kids are born out of wedlock compared to only about 20% of white kids. There are dead beat dads of all races but black men are the biggest percentage of dead beat dads.
jc02151 1 year ago
@jc02151 First off white guys do the exact same thing and someone should of told you that stats are not nor have they ever been accurate I know that for a fact so those percentages you just brought up are way off...
SuperZeitGeist1 1 year ago
@SuperZeitGeist1
Well, blacks have the highest percentage for being born unto unwed and single mothers. It seems like logic Einstein.
wowzers57 1 year ago
@wowzers57 Well if it is such logic then how come that is not true then einstein?
SuperZeitGeist1 1 year ago
@SuperZeitGeist1 Look it up. It is true, Einstein
wowzers57 1 year ago
@wowzers57 You are a worthless race baiter you nazi worshipper.
SuperZeitGeist1 1 year ago
@SuperZeitGeist1 Please, your a little baby. If someone offends you or your race, you start being an uppity little bitch and pull out the race card. The matter of the fact is, 72% of black babys are born unto unwed mothers.
Why don't you go march with the CURRENT- day Black Panthers? Those guys are some real race baiters.
wowzers57 1 year ago
@wowzers57 Please my ass you filthy cock sucker you came here to race bait period asshole and the Panthers are hardly race baiters and that comment of yours is completely false because most blacks have children in wed lock. Those so called stats are not accurate because each year they change into another totally different lie so how can I possibly believe them. Thats right I dont!
SuperZeitGeist1 1 year ago
@wowzers57 Yes, but there are in fact MORE white families without fathers! Black people only make up around 14 percent of the total us population, so 70% of the black population vs 30% of a much LARGER popullation is a huuuuuuge difference. Be wary of your statistics. That's all I'm sayin, && Where are you getting your sources?
fedocoCOCOA 11 months ago
@wowzers57 why do U HAVE TO BE MARRIED WHO CARES! DO U KNOW THE DIVORCE RATES NOWADAYS!!
MARRIAGE IS A CONSTRUCTION OF RELIGION AND OLD SOCIETY THAT SHE BE ABOLISH WITH RELIGION!!
martystreets 11 months ago
@martystreets What? You made no sense
wowzers57 11 months ago
@wowzers57 U DONT NEED TO GET MARRIED ! THATS ALL ITS AS USELESS AS BELIEVING IN
CHRITIANITY
martystreets 11 months ago
@martystreets If it was useless, Gays wouldn't be fighting for their right to marry. If you don't want to get married.... then don't. I personally agree with you.
Still, just because you believe it's useless to you, doesn't mean it's useless to others. Including Christianity. Atheist are the same as overzealous christians. You lambaste anything you don't believe in.
wowzers57 11 months ago
@wowzers57 its better than killing people bcuz they don't believe the same shit! christianity and other monotheistic religions have done alot of that! things atheist and agnostic dont do. thats the reason why im agnostic religion along with its ideals about how human should live their life is wrong
martystreets 11 months ago
@martystreets Thats in the past. I don't know what country you reside in but here in the U.S, there aren't any crusades going on some Lewis-Clark Expedition killing non-believers.
And I can assure you, an atheist would have committed crimes against humanity back in the days. Religion was a veil for murder at that time to achieve a purpose, whatever it may be. Any one person bent on something, be it through malicious ways, can accomplish it.
wowzers57 11 months ago
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@martystreets And what did you mean by "thats the reason why im agnostic religion along with its ideals about how human should live their life is wrong"
wowzers57 11 months ago
The dad reminds me of Charlie Murphy
indiaknoles 1 year ago
Haha this is turning into a "why black people are the best" debate
LuckyStrike015 1 year ago 79
I don't have children, but Black women, why do we get pregnant, and "lie" like the dad isn't there, but he's doing the best that he can, and then put him on child support, and ask for extra money? We need to stop that because he's not going to stay if you do that.
Tiabiacha1 1 year ago 5
@Efferts If rashadkijani was "most blacks" then she would be the ONLY black on "the net"
itsdastuff 1 year ago
I love how he calls them brothers and sisters ^_^
Vendolinka 1 year ago
I would be laughing in if the white girl was like "I am not your sister"
KimberleyASamuels 1 year ago
Shit he does look dead.
gurukid08 1 year ago
lol... i think anyone white black whatever would agree that her brother is a dead beat dad... If your a dad and have been in and out of jail your a deadbeat no matter what race you are
pokherindafrunt 1 year ago
I like Dr. Dyson, he speaks the truth =)
KollegeGirl13 1 year ago
I love what dyson said "time doesnt cost anything, if you nuture them on love and meaningful interactions that child will grow up knowing that his father wasnt always financially able but he was emotionally. So for those deadbeats out there, theres no fuckin excuse for not being there for your seed. and ppl wonder why these kids grow up to rob and kill and make bad dating decisions that that lead back to the same shit. Its a vicious cycle. Its time to take your place fathers We can't do it alone
NuwaniDeNubianLadyIE 1 year ago
Moral of the story we label our selves way too much.
krazy1luv 1 year ago
Well who's gonna challenge black women !!!!!!!!!1
Navithapoet 1 year ago
Is it me or are white people defending us and black people bashing us wow. The perception was made on purpose so why would it change.
EandA23 1 year ago
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It's not about the color of your skin. If you don't take care of responsibilities and are not around for your child then that makes you an irresponsible human being. Color shouldn't come into the equation... good on all the black and white men for taking care of your responsibilities :)
Ceira20 1 year ago
It's not about the color of your skin. If you don't take care of responsibilities and are not around for your child then that makes you an irresponsible human being. Color shouldn't come into the equation... good on all the black and white men for taking care of your responsibilities :)
Ceira20 1 year ago
dude please pardon me but , i am not understanding this, How can u be in debt, I was international Student who was paying 8000 dollars just to pay my fees in USA, I was living in shit hole, sharing my bed rooms with other students, eating not eating , not going out with my friends so i can save money, This is wt i did to get better life.... cant u do same thing.... you guys only pay 2000 for semester + u get scholarships....
harshpandya 1 year ago
dead beat dads are dead beats no matter what color he is! if you aren't taking care of your child you are a dead beat!!
o0katiekins0o 1 year ago
let the church say!!!!?
xglosam 1 year ago
Yeah there are 17 girls in Massachusetts having babies, but there are 17,000 ethnic women having abortions everyday. Abortions that people who actually have jobs, pay for with their tax dollars. Why is that hush hush? Why aren't they talking about poverty and crime and food stamps and the media on their beloved bet? their shows preach "thug life is the good life. fuck whoever and it ain't no thang" and they wonder why everyone thinks black women and men are ghetto crack head hood rats.
girl123interrupted 1 year ago
@girl123interrupted funny how ppl overlook the white girl pregnancy pact just to point a finger at black folks yet again. Im ethnic I never ever had an abortion im antiabortion to the fullest. Never been pregnant. You only choose to see ethnic ppl doing the shit and not white ppl. That pregnancy pact was stupid as hell admit it.
NuwaniDeNubianLadyIE 1 year ago
I am not saying caucasion's aren't at falt as well, but statistically its the ethnic races having two and three kids, and living off of the state. I didn't care about it until I started working at 16 and learned that part of my tax dollars are going to the trailer park's in my stateso the (whatever race) girl can sit on her ass with her meth head boyfriend & pop out asmany kids as she possibly can before her 21st birthday. When the numbers are 17 girls in Mass vs, 17,000 in chicago its like wtf!
girl123interrupted 1 year ago
@girl123interrupted so true.
jc02151 1 year ago
dyson just made shit up... I so dont that black men talk to their kids about politics more than others
maybe SAY they do but they would be in the Advanced classes... bullshit
sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf 1 year ago
@sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf how could u say that were trying to take away stereostypes not make them and your just going with a stereotype
bossman82011 1 year ago
@sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf You don't? Why not? My dad did. When I was seeing him.
a999op 1 year ago
@sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf Dyson is a pseudo intellectual. He pulls shit out of his ass all the time. He is where he is because he is black. If he was white, he'd be working at Burger King.
jc02151 1 year ago
@jc02151 Oh here we go again another miserable dumbass white person trying to play a race card lol. You know its funny to me how whites like you have no problem being on top over anyone who isn't white but as soon as the tables turn then you have a problem with it hmmmm? You are nothing but a dumbass white supremacist period your comment about Blacks are all untrue and backed by bigotry pure and simple.
SuperZeitGeist1 1 year ago
@SuperZeitGeist1
Bro you deal with these scumbags like a runaway freight train and you remain consistent....keep breaking it down bro......
jamash1914 1 year ago
@jamash1914 Oh you know me bro I breaks it down homie you see I don't have time to sugar coat things for people I have to bring the fire storm in the form of the truth homie...
SuperZeitGeist1 1 year ago
@jc02151 no, dyson is where he is because of his intelligence.............and i know plenty of black people who work at mcdonalds, and they are either uneducated, in high school, or a college student trying to make ends meet
thickjai18 1 year ago
stop listing to white supremist lie about black women and black men
bigcatlife 1 year ago
stop listing to white supremist lie
bigcatlife 1 year ago
Statistics are always skewed anyway!
stads24 1 year ago
@stads24 It's true. In college I learned all about statistics and how they work and it's such bull. Do not trust statistics.
strtthshw 1 year ago
i love this doctor guys, his intelligence is very becoming
dimplespoo 1 year ago 5
rahhh man dat man talks so much i love him though you can tell he is extremely educated.
cypriotglamour01 1 year ago
The perception of the black man will not change unless so long as so many black men are happy to live up to negative racial stereotypes in the name of "keeping it real". Not only that, but ingrates like Lil' Wayne and 50 Cent make their money by trading off negative stereotypes of their own people. Thus, black men need to stop selling themselves short, and stop supporting others that do.
inphanta 1 year ago
@inphanta I agree...its true not all but a significant amount. Lil Wayne and 50 are like mr. bojangles, black face for the corporate white men. But it is deeper than that the Corporate White men enable them to do so. If they wanted an album about peace and black love they wouldnt let them put that album out. Its really the men behind the scenes.
NuwaniDeNubianLadyIE 1 year ago
@NuwaniDeNubianLadyIE Yes, it's all a conspiracy. You're a dumb black CUNT. Blacks kill each other and whites in record numbers everyday and you're talking about black love. Black men = losers and conquered people. Considering all the shit black put whites through everyday, you all should be lucky we even let you make records. Do us a favor bitch/
jc02151 1 year ago
@jc02151 wow , you are SO ignorant and it's like , crazy that you feel that way , and you said " black Men conquered people" yea they do...lol white people see since white people are talkin they b.s and stuff we got EVERY red neck afraid of black people and you shouldn't even be but u are , so we got the y'all trained now and I laugh and little remarks like this because it shows your lack of knowledge and your WORTH to america which is nothing, u don't belong here.
Sister616 1 year ago
@jc02151 considerin black ppl built this country u should b thankful for us period. its the white man that was scared of us in the first place. white people = scared and ignorant
tomsbones55 1 year ago
@inphanta Yes and the perception that whites are racist hypocrites wont change as long as whites keep living up to the negative stereotype of judging blacks for things they do themselves. Whites cant keep doing drugs like paris hilton having children out wedlock like bristol palin but then think they have a right to make broadbrush conclusions becuz of black celebrities but arent holding white celebrities to the same standard. So whites need to quit being arrogant and take the log out their eye
rashadkijani 1 year ago
black traitor or white traitor??? Stop being racist people Black or white who cares?
Fockthatbs 1 year ago
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BLACK WOMEN ARE THE DEVILS CHILDREN, PILLED WITH EVIL, DARKNESS. I WAS BORN ALONE, I AM GONA DIE ALONE.
BLACK WOMEN NEED TO GET OUT OF MY FACE, AND GET OUT OF MY WAY, the new BLACK MALE PANTHERS. WE HATE BLACK WOMEN, WE LOV WOMEN FROM OTHER RACES AND OUR GOAL IS TOO SEE THE BLACK WOMEN FAT 300 POUNDS ALONE A CAT LADY. BITCH I HOPE YOU DIE TOMORROW black women want a war with black men ,find then watch us drop 20 hiroshima bombs on this black hoes.world war,3,4 and 5 hoes
MRbossman1982 1 year ago
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that light skin man with glasses made some good points.....but as a side note I think his a little gay some of the things he said and the way he put things just seemed homo.
kagome304 1 year ago
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Boston Study shows that black fathers who do not stay at home spend more time with their kids more than any other race.. Do you beleive that??? Who was doing that study?? There is no way that is a fact because otherwise women would not complain. I seriously doubt they spend more time than Hispanic men.
maycor1076 1 year ago
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Boston Study shows that black fathers who do not stay at home spend more time with their kids more than any other race.. Do you beleive that??? Who was doing that study?? There is no way that is a fact because otherwise women would not complain. I seriously doubt they spend more time than Hispanic men.
maycor1076 1 year ago
Boston Study shows that black fathers who do not stay at home spend more time with their kids more than any other race.. Do you beleive that??? Who was doing that study?? There is no way that is a fact because otherwise women would not complain. I seriously doubt they spend more time than Hispanic men.
maycor1076 1 year ago
I totally agree. They act like no other black men have been upstanding people before Obama became president. I also don't unerstand why people are telling men to be there for their children while simultaneously allowing the courts and sometimes their children's mothers to push them out of their children's lives. If they had some rights as parents maybe they would be there for their children.
troop217 1 year ago 3
@troop217 sooo true so true aint america some ballshit
TheRoyaldiamond 1 year ago
This episode was awesome. I wish the best for black men!!
camilledm 2 years ago 28
@camilledm Man this comment made my day! I wish you the same too!
fmcneillii 1 year ago
yo im proud trya had this show but damn they based everything on barack obama !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, black love always n forever !
Quilmaster12 2 years ago 7
wow...they compared about 6 situations to obama "the ideal blk man" obama this obama that...find some other examples and leaders or get a gotdamn mind of your own...he cant and wont save every black person that needs guidance in life...
POSSE OUT
HomicidalRecital 2 years ago 8
uhmmmmmm they mentioned Bill Cosby.. soooo yea...
CooKieMonStar07 2 years ago
I agree with your sentiment (although you said it a lil more aggressively than would seem necessary). Obama is valuable and I believe he will prove to be even more so ...but he is not the Alpha and the Omega....and neither is King.
theaugust 2 years ago 3
if everybody minds their own business and take care of their business
SimplyNicStacxxx 2 years ago 3
hmmmm....once again a white woman comes to the black mans defense, uhh huh.
and does obama challenge women to be better mothers....of curse not.
and seriously, the baby mama calling him a deadbeat, who the hell in there right or wrong mind is going to listen to that bias
as for the fool that's taking care of another mans kids....the only thing she is going t learn is that she can have kids when ever with who ever cause some fool is going to come save her from her foolish choice
TENNSUMITSUMA 2 years ago
@TENNSUMITSUMA: Your cynicism is baffling. So you think the guy being with a woman he loves despite her having a child from a previous relationship whom he clearly cares about and treats as his own is a BAD thing. And so what if the woman "defending black men" was white? She made a very valid point: black men are singled out for doing the same things as everybody else. That it was a white person who pointed this out makes it all the more compelling.
inphanta 1 year ago
@inphanta
the only thing baffling is your ignorance. and the fact that you even ask these questions and seriously dont know proves it.
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
@TENNSUMITSUMA: That was a spectacularly feeble way of dodging the questions. Oh, and should you ever consult a dictionary in your life, you'll discover that "ignorant" does not mean "someone who happens disagree with your position on an issue".
inphanta 1 year ago
@inphanta
1 i didn't dodging anything
'oh, and'
2 can u point out where (EXACTLY) i said ignorant does mean 'someone who happens disagree with your position on an issue' id like 2 c it. as im willing to bet left & right nut that i didn't
now 2 answer your foolish questions
1 yes i do think its a bad thing (bad try with the wording btw)
2 so what if shes white? so nothing, so y is it that every other groups (especially indian & asian) the women defend their men till proven wrong, not so with BW
TENNSUMITSUMA 1 year ago
Tyra turns me on.
franciso7 2 years ago
look at thie educated beautiful black man.. Im soo proud of him.. hes so gentle. 5:14
xlxAbby0Princessxlx 2 years ago 7
i love that guy in the brown jacket haha he's so funny!
xoxjsongxox 2 years ago 42
@xoxjsongxox his name is finesse mitchel. he his a comedian
popedaniels 1 year ago
im a skinny ass white/mexican boy.
is it wrong i call my freinds brothers?
they are black. its not offensive is it?
i cant say i understand what there ancestors cuz i wasnt there but i know what my people did is way fucked upp..
but i just dont want to offend my friends.
jadegodinez 2 years ago 2
Dude, there is nothing wrong with calling your friends brother. That is a term of endearment and I don't see how anyone could take offense to that unless you say it with a condescending sarcasm.
svaughn4 2 years ago 3
no it's not wrong...i see my white guy friends call our black guy friends bro all the time...if u can find friends in life that you feel close enough to think of them as family..that's awesome :)
blahblah0614 2 years ago 4
I'm glad I have my step dad...better than my actual dad.
PrincessSydney09 2 years ago 5
I'm a black guy struggling to pay for college. Most blacks would've dropped out already to go sell drugs but i'm hangging in there even tho i'm 3000 in debt. with no source of money.
Eurky89 2 years ago 88
Good luck with everything my brother
psat21 2 years ago 3
i know it's sad but i'm just ganna risk it all and stay in skool lol
Eurky89 2 years ago 3
That is not sad... there is NOTHING sad about being a fighter... I have to applaud you because you are in the minority " a black guy struggling to pay for college". What is sad is that you don't hear that everyday, you are right most black guys would drop out and sell drugs... its a harsh reality but I commend you for simply doing you... Indeed you are a real man... God Bless you xx
psat21 2 years ago
I mean there isn't anything better to do out there. It's fucking sad that young black kids have to rely on sports to make. it doesn't always work. sometimes i think about and just shake my head.
Eurky89 2 years ago
i'm not relying on sports...i rely on my brain.
blahblah0614 2 years ago
well now i woudn't say most black men would drop out to sell drugs mabe just decide to just drop out, But his situation would be tough for anyone to handle. That's sort of putting black men all in the same hole right there saying they would sell drugs if they drop out. Mabe some decide to join the military and then go back to school and use the military to pay for it that's a honorable profession and your education is paid for not everyone wants to do that but it is an option for a lot of guys.
auq21 2 years ago 3
@Eurky89 keep it up, better to try than not to have tried at all
khussett 2 years ago
Hey you know what keep at it. I've had two of my brothers (both black) go through college and yes they were racking up debt but they kept at it. Now they have degrees and have good paying jobs. Don't let the debt get to you. Think about it as a long term investment. Having a degree opens many opportunities for you, You may not see it now but believe me you will get that reward in the future.
mediasage91 2 years ago 5
@Eurky89 it's stupid fucking comments like that. Most blacks would've dropped out? FALSE! the amount of blacks that would've dropped out happen to be the minority you moron. it's just that the way the world and people work. they focus more attention on negativity and with all the mention of it it seems like its the majority BUT ALAS it is not.
MicGregor 1 year ago
@Eurky89 Hang N dere BRO I'll Pray for you... BUt i don't even got a job yet lol
Dunkanytimebsairborn 1 year ago
@Eurky89 man shut the fuck up. u probably a white dude making these comments
bigcatlife 1 year ago
@bigcatlife shut the fuck up cuz u probably a low life stereotype, i bet u would drop out if things got hard!
ItsCorrineSoScream 1 year ago
@bigcatlife I'm black as fuck, so stfu!
Eurky89 1 year ago
@Eurky89 good for u i would pay for u but im broke too
sarahball12 1 year ago