So sorry that John MacArthur has used a pulpit, platform, and captive audience to bash a Christian brother. As a fellow pastor, John, I am so very disappointed at what you have done publicly... and having your congregation join you in laughing at a brother.
@cassiopea815 Joel Osteen is not a brother and John did not "bash" Joel Osteen, but exposed his Satanic teachings. John is doing the right thing here and exposing the fruits of darkness.
I heard of how Jesus changed other people's lives and I wanted it too.I was a lying stealing cheating arrogant sexually immoral drug-addicted jerk.I knew I was bad and wanted to be good.I asked Jesus to take control of my life because I had made a mess of it.He came and purified my thought-life and heart. Though he was innocent, I believe He died for my sins, and came to life again. Understanding His love I trust Him and let Him transform my life.I have peace now i didnt know was possible.
Saw Osteen last week, friend wanted to go. Exactly as John says, it is a message that appeals to people, because it is what they want to hear. Ear tickling. The message never changes, the format never changes, no a word in it that convicts or teaches.
@webstercat :::Joel teaches Christian living. If the message never changed, he would soon lose his audience. Is it not good that a Christian message appeals to people? A lot of people do not "feel good" when they find out they need to change the way they think. Since Joel addresses his sermons to Christians, he has no reason to 'convict'. Joel does teach, it is you who does not want to learn.
@MrLonelyeagle Your admonishment is terribly misplaced. You need to look long and hard at Gal 3:1-14, because either you simply don't understand it, or in your misguided zeal, you're thinking gore53 is saying something OTHER than what he's saying. You also need to examine and recognize that Gal 5-7 is FAR more applicable than just to circumcision.
If you haven't completely forgotten Galatians, it's the YOKE of the Law to which Paul was referring in Gal. 5:1 and it's GOD'S WORD not Paul's.
@MrLonelyeagle "you read into Fauthal's post because you can't separate salvation from material blessing"
Pretty astounding considering you don't know me, and therefore don't really know what I believe regarding salvation to material blessings. Is it God's will for people to be sick? Or in fear? Or cursed with poverty? And what does life abundant mean? Heaven, and all it's richness, would not be Heaven were Jesus not present. That's what I believe. Hope this clears things up.
@MrLonelyeagle "who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." Walking after the flesh is trying to placate God by works. Rom 8: Those who are in the flesh cannot please God
Rom 7 The carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God.
Notice the above says law, singular, which is Rom 2 The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made us free from the law of sin and death.
God has already judged the flesh guilty. He's only looking for faith.
I studied the occult since 11yo when I was 27 the Holy spirit saved me from those lies but it is true than the new age mysticism (this includes Olsteen's msg) is everything this man is saying. The power is in you etc. you are meant for great things etc these are the temptations of Satan not the truth of God. God teaches humility.
@Fauthal The word of God also teaches that men who put their faith in Christ alone have been redeemed from the curse of the law. What's the opposite of being cursed? Why it's to be blessed, is it not? If grumbling in sackcloth does it for you, I won't argue.
But it's far better to be His child, by grace through faith in Christ alone, and expect His goodness instead of His wrath. False humility won't accept God's righteousness as a GIFT through faith alone.
@Fauthal :: Did you give up sanity when you gave up the occult? Joel's message is not mysticism, it is good psychology. 1 Tim 6:17 "... the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy." Psalm 35:27 "...Let the Lord be magnified, which hath pleasure in the prosperity of his servant."
In Acts 8 9-24. Apostle Peter himself "judged" an already "baptized" in Christ man as in "gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity". Now tell me Joel that if only God can say this.
Acts 8 22-23
Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.
In Acts 8:9-24. Apostle Peter himself "judged" an already "baptized" in Christ man as in "gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity". Now tell me Joel that if only God can say this.
Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.
In Acts 8:9-24. Apostle Peter himself "judged" an already "baptized" in Christ man as in "gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity". Now tell me Joel that if only God can say this.
Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.
In Acts 8:9-24. Apostle Peter himself "judged" an already "baptized" in Christ man as in "gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity". Now tell me Joel that if only God can say this.
Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.
In Acts 8:9-24. Apostle Peter himself "judged" an already "baptized" in Christ man as in "gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity". Now tell me Joel that if only God can say this.
22Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee. 23For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.
Some of you reading these comments wonder how can people say Joel is a false prophet, why do people judge him. My hope and prayer that people realize that John MacArthur doesn't do this because he enjoys this but to warn people, to help prevent someone who has faith in Christ to be led astray. I encourage you to listen and read and study and this will be clear to you. There was a time where i couldn't discern the truth but now thru study and learning who God really is, Joel is False.
MacArthur is Biblical. He preaches what the Bible says. Olsteen is just a motivator. Using God to sell he's books. He pumps you up full of hope. What kind of hope? Health, wealth and self-love.
Jesus never preach about loving yourself. He always expose human failures. He calls our heart evil and everyone a sinner.
@Mrhawklanz "He calls our heart evil and everyone a sinner." Actually He reserved those comments for the self-righteous. The Bible has plenty to say to those who believe in the finished work of Christ and not their own works. For one, it says there's no condemnation for those who are in Christ. When a minister such as MacArthur tries to bring believers under the law and condemnation it's a sin, as it misrepresents grace through faith in Christ. The law is useful if used lawfully.
@gore53 the problem with Joel is he tries to please everyone. He neither condemns muslims, mormons, atheists. That verse from Romans u used would work on true believers but not for those who uses Jesus's sacrifice as a source for health and wealth. Everyone can call themselves a Christian and MacArthur doesn't bring believers under the law. They know the law. Its for those who calls themselves Christians and don't know the law that needs rebuking.
@Mrhawklanz "Its for those who calls themselves Christians and don't know the law that needs rebuking." Oh really? Just what 'laws' are Christians under today?
Christians, those in Christ, are not under the law of Moses. Period. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set us free from the law of sin and death.
Are you saved? Are you not aware that Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believes?
@gore53 work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Nuff said. I've seen enough ppl who call themselves 'Christians' to know what being SAVED really means. And its NOT what Joel's message is. REPENT.
@Mrhawklanz and what does "repent" mean? While you're at it did Jesus say repent before you believe the Gospel or after... or is your concept so set in stone that you don't think God's Word is so exact that He put it in the order He wants it?
What I'm suggesting is that you think you know more and better than what you really know. Nevertheless, you're accountable for what you believe and impose on others, but that doesn't mean we are. You might want to read your Bible more carefully
@Mrhawklanz While you're at it, tell us what "saved" really means, because I got my definition from the Bible but you got your from seeing "enough ppl who call themselves 'Christians' to know what being SAVED really means."
And where does God's Word say or suggest that we're to get our doctrine from watching "enough ppl" instead of from the Word of God.
What I'm suggesting is that you DON'T know what "SAVED really means." But I'm listening. Educate me.
@Mrhawklanz How is that "Nuff said" when there aren't 5 preachers out of 25 who even teach accurately on "fear and trembling"? Don't most preachers you've heard teach that "fear" means "respect"? Of those that do teach it accurately, how many of them teach accurately on what "saved" really means? I'll bet it's fewer than 5 out of 25. Most preachers preach what they've been told the Bible means just like most Christians parrot their favorite preachers. How many hear God teach?
@Mrhawklanz "work out your salvation with fear and trembling"
Why not finish the passage? "For it is God within you to will and do according to His purpose" You view God as angry and keeping score. This suits you, as you feel you're better compared to others. Religious hypocrites are in for a shock on judgment day. Most of them have never fully trusted Christ alone for salvation, and go about seeking their own righteousness, while using the Bible as a weapon.
@gore53 when are you going to open your eyes? You are listening and supporting a man who never preach the Gospel, refuses to judge Mormons and Muslims. We have a universalist who says everyone will go to heaven since they are good. If u get fed this message week in week out. You'll start believing you are good. Showing trust in Jesus for salvation includes repentance and turning away from your sins. Its God's work in you and he gets the credit for it. Not by your own works.
@gore53 God gets the credit, NOT you. U claim since Jesus has done the work so your life is better and good now. It should make life better for you. Tell that it to the Christians in Iraq and Pakistan.
You support this guy? Fine. I'd rather listen MacArthur, Paul Washer, John Piper, RC Sproul than this universalist.
God does things according to he's will. He can make your life miserable 'according to he's purpose'. He's not an angry God. He's a JUST God. And sovereign to boot.
Joel pagan? He must be a christian. Christianity is as pagan as it can be. It adopted almost if not all pagan holidays and customs. It god needs blood to forgive. Ha,ha,ha. This is sick stuff.
One man YWHW helped sacrificed his virgin daughter.Judges11.YWHW loved this sacrifice so much, he made the great men of faith list in Hebrews 11
Truth, you want truth? Paul is a false apostle. jesuswordsonly(dot)com
@thedagonjones What Jephthah did to his daughter was wrong but the problem was his vow that he made. As for the blood sacrifice, In Christianity God has to forgive sin by shedding blood, hence why Jesus died. Also there is no record of Christmas or Easter mentioned in the New Testament.
macarthtur is absolutely right satan is using osteen to decieve so many people right into hell and osteens followers and osteen himself are so blind to it they cant see it coming. i hope they repent and trust in the Lord jesus christ for the forgiveness of their sins.
@RedemptionFORus ::: Since when did you become an expert on satan? What deception? To live a Christian life and grow in grace? Hardly. You need to repent of your judgmental attitude.
@k0smon since when did you or osteen become an expert on God??? Osteen's always preaching about how we are so worthy, we were born to win, we are good. the bible says Isaiah 64:6 says we are like filthy rags and Romans 3:10 no one is good not even one. Osteen NEVER preaches about why we need Gods grace I have NEVER heard him even mention the gospel (although I would NEVER let him be my source of teaching anyway) but you will hear him preach about how good we are and we are born winners. HERETIC!
@k0smon ive never even seen him with notes or a bible in front of him? 2 Timothy 4:3-4 for the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. stop following this wolf and get into the gospel of jesus christ, and understand what Gods grace truley is, its not the one Osteen preaches about!!!
John has been lacking in grace for years. How sad to listen to this. John is certain that HE is right and damn you (literally) if you see things any other way becasue John is 100% correct.
@TheWholeTruthNow Goes to show how little you know. You learn and teach the bible ONLY. No add ons...no deletions...no just becuase you dont understand and or like a scripture then add your own twist to it, or taking things out of context to support a person own evil ways. Seems that what satanic Joel does...oh gosh golly did i say satanic joe? Yes i did.
@TheWholeTruthNow I bet you're about 13 or maybe 14 years old. Now, go to bed like a nice little girl, or your going to be in trouble. BTW, did you find your Bozo Channel yet? Just search "BOZO" - maybe you'll get lucky.
@TheWholeTruthNow You're very cocky for someone who says The Whole Truth Now. You don't believe the Bible? What's that matter with you - don't like the TRUTH? Jesus Christ was a JEW, His Disciples were JEWS, He told them to to preach to the JEW first, then the Gentiles. Are you a muslim? You sure sound like one. Your knee will bow & your tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the Glory of God the Father. Now why don't you go find the Bozo Channel and post on it?
It's not "popular" to say anything negative about Osteen these days. I appreciate John MacArthur not trying to be popular, but rather telling the TRUTH!! *That* is where the love is! God loves us so much & His plan is that we come to a right relationship with Him through His Son Jesus Christ & His work on the cross. That is love! That's Truth! If you tell lies, keep people from knowing God? Horrific. I ask that all Believers humble ourselves & pray that Osteen will come to know the Truth.
There was no love in this message. The only thing shared was judgement. I'm thinking you're upset you are incapable of attracting the following Osteen has. Jealousy and envy is a horrible sin, especially when supporting your narrow-minded opinions with scripture. You of all people should know there is no love in judging others. It's funny how so many can quote a scripture and the scripture doesn't apply to the quoter, only to others. Look in the mirror.
@TheWholeTruthNow I think you need to go back and check your facts. Obviously you've been misinformed by somebody, because it doesn't take but a short sampling of his sermons to know he preaches faith alone... furthermore, what faulty scholarship has mislead you to believe that hell is not a literal place?... and if that is the definition of what makes him a false preacher then your standard can't possibly be the same as scripture.
John knows the Greek text says Gehenna - not Hell. I have listened to John MacArthur for years and I know exactly what he preaches. He preaches Lordship salvation which is another form of works salvation. Man cannot add to God's salvation. John MacArthur is a heretic - plain and simple. Quit following men and follow God.
@TheWholeTruthNow What false doctrines does he teach that are false? He preaches against works salvation, but rather that only faith alone in Jesus Christ is what saves. How is he a false teacher?
@TheWholeTruthNow Haha..that's one of the funniest arrogant statements I've seen made on YouTube! If you cannot notice the truths that John preaches from the Scriptures and notice the love He has for Christ, than you clearly have no trace of God inside of you. Next you're going to tell me that Paul wasn't a Christian either!
If you are looking for arrogance - look no further that John MacArthur. He is no more a Christian than the Pharisees were. He is a legalistic and pompous heretic. He does not even believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit! He is a blasphemer. You REALLY need to WAKE UP!
@TheWholeTruthNow Right because a legalist always preaches salvation by grace alone, through faith alone in Christ, not by our own will or doing, right? I cannot stand people like you. You have no clue what John even believes or teaches. You think you know the man's ministry and heart because you read a website falsely accusing him of error. There are very few who love, honor, and cherish God's Word more than him. You do not believe the truth because Jesus' Words have no place in you. How sad
John MacArthur teaches Lordship salvation. He was booted from our local radio station for his false teachings. I listened to John for many years and I know EXACTLY what he teaches. You are a fool for listening to this heretic. Please go get some wisdom and discernment. I am baptized in the Holy Spirit and have been crucified with Christ. John MacArthur would not know Jesus if He sat in his lap. And obviously, neither would you. You are a brainwashed man follower. Repent!
@TheWholeTruthNow Sorry buddy but Jesus taught Lordship salvation as well:) Read Matt. 7:21-23. All you charasmatic freaks care about is feeling and not truth. It's pathetic and not biblical. I'll choose to worship in Spirit and in truth..not just emotionalism and demonism. I repent daily, my heart and conscience are clear before the Lord. I do not worship John MaCarthur or any other man. My heart belongs to Jesus Christ.He will be the one I follow:)
Jesus did not teach the NT church! He was talking to OT Jews! PLEASE go learn your Bible! PLEASE! How old are you? You do not have a clue what the truth is!
@TheWholeTruthNow How sad..yet another professing believer, living a life who thinks he knows Christ that will end up in hell. I'll be praying for you my friend:(
I am baptized in the Holy Spirit who is the SEAL and GUARANTEE of my inheritance and redemption! So you better be praying for YOURSELF because you are lost in ignorance and deception. Please repent of your vile heresy.
@TheWholeTruthNow Sorry, just because you had an emotional experience at RA camp when you were a kid doesn't mean you're saved. You don't believe in the truth. You're a wolf and snake, causing nothing but division amongst true believers. What a pathetic joke of a man!
Satan is the accuser of the brethren. Get thee behind me Satan. I have a deeply intimate relationship with Jesus Christ, my Lord and my God. You are deceived beyond comparison. Please repent of your grossly vile and demented sins. I was saved as an adult, not as a child. Try again Mr Accuser! SHAME ON YOU!
@TheWholeTruthNow Jesus Christ is the ROCK upon which He said He was building His Church. Each Disciple was the START of the NT Church. Christ is the HEAD of His Church & EVERY believer makes up Body of the Church/Jesus Christ. I don't know where you got your information, but the "Church" is the PEOPLE that Believe, Worship, Love, Accept Jesus Christ, starting with the 1st Believer.
Wow haters GOD is the only judge who ever is not right in the eyes of the father will be judged by him and him only. Who cares what another person has to say about Joel he is not Jesus we are to walk Christ like and the advise Joel gives is that STOP HATING. HE never said worship me he does not say satin is the way he says JESUS is the way to the father,,
he does not have the ability passed on from the spiritual blood line from the Apostles given by Jesus, in order to do that you would have to be Catholic or Orthodox. That means he really can't even baptize. These type of Protestant people are not of the Apostolic Succession. They can only trace thier roots back to Luther at the farthest.. which would be 1517AD,
I seen a little of one of his programs watching it with some Protestants, watching them watch him you would think he is the hero of the story not Jesus..It looked as if they were worshiping him.. You are supposed to present yourself before Jesus and go to Church, not get up put on your tv set and think your having Church in the living room. It ashamed the This kind of Preaching on Tv has replaced Jesus in the Eucharist.. Its always all about the preacher and HIS sermon..
In a time not long ago, MacArthur would have relished having that kind of power. I might go as far as to say it would cause nothing short of glee in this otherwise dour and joyless old man.
Actually, a man who uses Bronze Age morality to increase his own power here on earth and instill a germinal seed of fear in a silent daddy authority in the sky in his obedient flock surely must derive some sort of sadistic joy out of it.
THE LAST I SAW, OSTEEN INVITED HIGH PROFILE NON-BELIEVING SATANIC NEW AGE MESSAGE SPREADING CELEBRITIES TO HIS SERVICE & HAD THE CONGREGATION GIVE THEM ROUNDS OF APPLAUSE.
1.PLEASE STOP FILLING THE CHURCH WITH WOLVES!
2.JESUS IS THE ONLY ONE I AM PRAISING...NOT IDOLS!!
@MRWBBIII Comments like this are the reason it is so difficult for non-believers to become believers. We should be thanking God that Oprah actually came to hear the word.
The insecure god YWHW required Abram to kill and burn second son.Abram should have told voice"Get behind me demonic,the gods forbid murder,Gen9." Abram rebelled and prepared to burn son to Satanic voice.This is wicked by all moral standards.This sick god is capricious,fickle just as jealous pagan gods. Christians applaude Abram preparation for murder and burning son.Christianity needs classified as terror organization."In the beginning,the gods.."You are living deceptively.
@truthsourcenet You state that Osteen is a counterfeit. I listen to him all the time. Pastor Joel preaches the Good News. You can have victory in your life if you abide in Christ. There was a time in my life when I really needed to be encouraged and Pastor Joel was there. I get e-mails every day that explain Gods promises IF YOU abide and obey the Lord. What's wrong with that??
@cccfish10221022 when u tell someone scripture and they get mad its bc the truth is not in them. this verse explains bout having knowledge of Gods word.... Luke 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
@b215apple john 7:24 dont judge by appearance, but make rightcheous judgment. we have permission from God himself to 'judge' rigtcheously. 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
He covers all the points I noticed. I saw the same message in 'Live a yes life' by At Boshoff as well. They are all the same and in the same group. The message is very appealing to the flesh. Sadly, if we point out their errors, those who are blinded become upset because these preachers are 'Charisma' to them. Idolatry. They all say 'well-known', 'fastest growth' 'big' church which are all physical and nothing important. Very sad indeed but God is the one who reveals the truth at His timing.
All have sinned and greatly offended the holy God of the bible. The just punishment is death then hell. That's not Gods will. He suffered and died on the cross paying for the law you broke in His life's blood so He could legally dismiss your case. You must repent turn from sin and trust alone in Jesus Christ for your salvation.
He is right, no way for happines and eternity except Jesus Christ. Positive thinking is nothing without the TRUTH, Jesus is the truth and the way, no man comes to the Father except by me. In Christ you find peace and joy in what you have, do I live in a bad house, NO, do I have everything I need and more, yes, Am I blessed , everyday. I give God the glory. Just I asked for forgivness through the blood of Christ, this is the TRUTH
john mcarthur tells us that the fulfillment of desires is satanic... i think he is a little out of the arena here... whats the alternative - live in a shit hole and be broke? No Elohim loves to bless us - just give it back to Him in being inclusive of those outside His Kingdom - no need for jets and hummers for yourself - hope and encouragement are commodites of the Kingdom of Elohim - if you have excess, bless others and yourself and give glory to Elohim for it. Give more than you retain.
@etherform66 YES, look at David and King Solomon....wise men of the bible and they had it all because they were Faithful to the Lord. This mcarthur has done nothing but JUDGE and ENOUGH is enough with Osteen book....ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE US. Jesus even forgives a prostitute! or an adulterer!
Alot of these preachers are jealous of Joel Osteen!!!!!!!!!!! They are just upset that they are not as successful as him. I like John Macarthur but come on man!! If you listen to what Joel Osteen really preach about you would understand that many ppl have different ways of preaching. Just because its not the way you preach it does not mean to its not right!! Joel does preach against the flesh and sin. But not often. Some of this stuff is common sense
@tripleb1987 We're not jealous. We're afraid for them and their followers. If you are living your best life now, then you are not living your best life in the life to come. God has not called us to dream a bigger dream. God commands all men everywhere to repent.
@tripleb1987 The problem is that what Joel Osteen "preaches" isn't in line with Scripture. He preaches another gospel and, according to the Bible, he is accursed because of that. Study the Word before you type unbiblical nonsense.
Was Jesus a rich or poor man? Was he born into a kingdom or a small village of around 100 people? Jesus was homeless during his ministry and at many times hungry never serving himself.
Joel osteen was on larry king live and would not even acknowledge Christ as being the only way. Which is christianity 101. He never preaches sin...repentance...or any other hard to swallow message in the Gospel. The trinity broadcast network (TBN) will not remove this phalse prophet from their air waves because of the huge cash contribution he makes. But they part ways with Jack Van Impe because he stands for the truth.
I used to have respect for John MacArthur. Now I have much more respect for Joel Osteen. In the bible the Accuser of the Brethren was the devil. Joel Osteen leads more people to Christ on one Sunday than Mr. MacArthur will in his lifetime. Sad to see.
@christian41759 Joel creates false converts, not Christians. I have listened to many of his messages, never preaches biblical repentance or sin righteousness and judgment to come, he is not a Christian pastor, he is a motivational speaker. As a Christian it is the job of everyone of us to test the spirits and message based solely on the Word and Joel fails on all levels. This life is not supposed to be fantastic, death is for the believer as per Jesus. Luke 21:12-17 sounds pretty great.
@christian41759 - Numbers is not the test for building the True church of Christ, and for building True disciples of Christ. Jesus said, "My little flock" not my mega churches! Of course he will bring in many more people, but not to the True God, many love to hear what tickles their ears so be cautious and test all that is said against the authority of God's Word.
John MacArthur, what a waste of time and energy to condemn a fellow preacher. Perhaps you need to follow Jesus and become a carpenter instead of a preacher. Your ego is on parade here. Humility escapes you. May your listeners be revolted by your attitude and words of condemnation.
Everybody Rejoice!!! Around 4:30 am USA Eastern time it started with rain and wind.
Today September 30 2011, I saw the Heaven open and Jesus was coming!!
Everybody hurry up!! find somebody who has been baptized before and fill your bath tub and let them baptized you in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. Just accept that Jesus died and save you from your sins.. Hurry
He is just like demonic Oprah and her godless gurus. They are false prophets who lie that their mind controls the universe? Then how come Oprah is not 99 lbs. and would have brought back The Chicago Olympic Games (she epic failed) This video exposes what is happening in most of today's churches! And the new age lies that Oprah and her god hating gurus teach now...
I definitely agree. Joel Olsteen is a fortune teller.
winner239 3 days ago
So sorry that John MacArthur has used a pulpit, platform, and captive audience to bash a Christian brother. As a fellow pastor, John, I am so very disappointed at what you have done publicly... and having your congregation join you in laughing at a brother.
cassiopea815 1 week ago
@cassiopea815 Joel Osteen is not a brother and John did not "bash" Joel Osteen, but exposed his Satanic teachings. John is doing the right thing here and exposing the fruits of darkness.
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awhitesoul2012 2 weeks ago
Saw Osteen last week, friend wanted to go. Exactly as John says, it is a message that appeals to people, because it is what they want to hear. Ear tickling. The message never changes, the format never changes, no a word in it that convicts or teaches.
webstercat 2 weeks ago
@webstercat :::Joel teaches Christian living. If the message never changed, he would soon lose his audience. Is it not good that a Christian message appeals to people? A lot of people do not "feel good" when they find out they need to change the way they think. Since Joel addresses his sermons to Christians, he has no reason to 'convict'. Joel does teach, it is you who does not want to learn.
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@MrLonelyeagle Your admonishment is terribly misplaced. You need to look long and hard at Gal 3:1-14, because either you simply don't understand it, or in your misguided zeal, you're thinking gore53 is saying something OTHER than what he's saying. You also need to examine and recognize that Gal 5-7 is FAR more applicable than just to circumcision.
If you haven't completely forgotten Galatians, it's the YOKE of the Law to which Paul was referring in Gal. 5:1 and it's GOD'S WORD not Paul's.
BludBaut 2 weeks ago
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John MacArthur needs to get right with God. He's a Pharisee.
BludBaut 2 weeks ago
@MrLonelyeagle "you read into Fauthal's post because you can't separate salvation from material blessing"
Pretty astounding considering you don't know me, and therefore don't really know what I believe regarding salvation to material blessings. Is it God's will for people to be sick? Or in fear? Or cursed with poverty? And what does life abundant mean? Heaven, and all it's richness, would not be Heaven were Jesus not present. That's what I believe. Hope this clears things up.
gore53 2 weeks ago
ruined the video with the music
masternate61 2 weeks ago
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@MrLonelyeagle "who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." Walking after the flesh is trying to placate God by works. Rom 8: Those who are in the flesh cannot please God
Rom 7 The carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God.
Notice the above says law, singular, which is Rom 2 The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made us free from the law of sin and death.
God has already judged the flesh guilty. He's only looking for faith.
gore53 3 weeks ago
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gore53 3 weeks ago
I studied the occult since 11yo when I was 27 the Holy spirit saved me from those lies but it is true than the new age mysticism (this includes Olsteen's msg) is everything this man is saying. The power is in you etc. you are meant for great things etc these are the temptations of Satan not the truth of God. God teaches humility.
Fauthal 3 weeks ago
@Fauthal The word of God also teaches that men who put their faith in Christ alone have been redeemed from the curse of the law. What's the opposite of being cursed? Why it's to be blessed, is it not? If grumbling in sackcloth does it for you, I won't argue.
But it's far better to be His child, by grace through faith in Christ alone, and expect His goodness instead of His wrath. False humility won't accept God's righteousness as a GIFT through faith alone.
gore53 3 weeks ago
@Fauthal :: Did you give up sanity when you gave up the occult? Joel's message is not mysticism, it is good psychology. 1 Tim 6:17 "... the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy." Psalm 35:27 "...Let the Lord be magnified, which hath pleasure in the prosperity of his servant."
k0smon 13 hours ago
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In Acts 8 9-24. Apostle Peter himself "judged" an already "baptized" in Christ man as in "gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity". Now tell me Joel that if only God can say this.
Acts 8 22-23
Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.
AnotherSlaveOfChrist 1 month ago
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In Acts 8:9-24. Apostle Peter himself "judged" an already "baptized" in Christ man as in "gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity". Now tell me Joel that if only God can say this.
Acts 8:22-23
Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.
AnotherSlaveOfChrist 1 month ago
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In Acts 8:9-24. Apostle Peter himself "judged" an already "baptized" in Christ man as in "gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity". Now tell me Joel that if only God can say this.
Acts 8:22-23
Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.
AnotherSlaveOfChrist 1 month ago
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In Acts 8:9-24. Apostle Peter himself "judged" an already "baptized" in Christ man as in "gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity". Now tell me Joel that if only God can say this.
Acts 8:22-23
Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.
AnotherSlaveOfChrist 1 month ago
In Acts 8:9-24. Apostle Peter himself "judged" an already "baptized" in Christ man as in "gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity". Now tell me Joel that if only God can say this.
22Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee. 23For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.
AnotherSlaveOfChrist 1 month ago
Some of you reading these comments wonder how can people say Joel is a false prophet, why do people judge him. My hope and prayer that people realize that John MacArthur doesn't do this because he enjoys this but to warn people, to help prevent someone who has faith in Christ to be led astray. I encourage you to listen and read and study and this will be clear to you. There was a time where i couldn't discern the truth but now thru study and learning who God really is, Joel is False.
Stan6468 1 month ago
@Stan6468 ::: Led astray? From what? Joel teaches Christian living. He is not an evangelist. What is this big truth you can now discern?
k0smon 13 hours ago
MacArthur is Biblical. He preaches what the Bible says. Olsteen is just a motivator. Using God to sell he's books. He pumps you up full of hope. What kind of hope? Health, wealth and self-love.
Jesus never preach about loving yourself. He always expose human failures. He calls our heart evil and everyone a sinner.
Mrhawklanz 1 month ago
@Mrhawklanz "He calls our heart evil and everyone a sinner." Actually He reserved those comments for the self-righteous. The Bible has plenty to say to those who believe in the finished work of Christ and not their own works. For one, it says there's no condemnation for those who are in Christ. When a minister such as MacArthur tries to bring believers under the law and condemnation it's a sin, as it misrepresents grace through faith in Christ. The law is useful if used lawfully.
gore53 3 weeks ago
@gore53 the problem with Joel is he tries to please everyone. He neither condemns muslims, mormons, atheists. That verse from Romans u used would work on true believers but not for those who uses Jesus's sacrifice as a source for health and wealth. Everyone can call themselves a Christian and MacArthur doesn't bring believers under the law. They know the law. Its for those who calls themselves Christians and don't know the law that needs rebuking.
Mrhawklanz 3 weeks ago
@Mrhawklanz "Its for those who calls themselves Christians and don't know the law that needs rebuking." Oh really? Just what 'laws' are Christians under today?
Christians, those in Christ, are not under the law of Moses. Period. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set us free from the law of sin and death.
Are you saved? Are you not aware that Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believes?
gore53 3 weeks ago
@gore53 work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Nuff said. I've seen enough ppl who call themselves 'Christians' to know what being SAVED really means. And its NOT what Joel's message is. REPENT.
Mrhawklanz 2 weeks ago
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@Mrhawklanz and what does "repent" mean? While you're at it did Jesus say repent before you believe the Gospel or after... or is your concept so set in stone that you don't think God's Word is so exact that He put it in the order He wants it?
What I'm suggesting is that you think you know more and better than what you really know. Nevertheless, you're accountable for what you believe and impose on others, but that doesn't mean we are. You might want to read your Bible more carefully
BludBaut 2 weeks ago
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@Mrhawklanz While you're at it, tell us what "saved" really means, because I got my definition from the Bible but you got your from seeing "enough ppl who call themselves 'Christians' to know what being SAVED really means."
And where does God's Word say or suggest that we're to get our doctrine from watching "enough ppl" instead of from the Word of God.
What I'm suggesting is that you DON'T know what "SAVED really means." But I'm listening. Educate me.
BludBaut 2 weeks ago
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@Mrhawklanz How is that "Nuff said" when there aren't 5 preachers out of 25 who even teach accurately on "fear and trembling"? Don't most preachers you've heard teach that "fear" means "respect"? Of those that do teach it accurately, how many of them teach accurately on what "saved" really means? I'll bet it's fewer than 5 out of 25. Most preachers preach what they've been told the Bible means just like most Christians parrot their favorite preachers. How many hear God teach?
BludBaut 2 weeks ago
@Mrhawklanz "work out your salvation with fear and trembling"
Why not finish the passage? "For it is God within you to will and do according to His purpose" You view God as angry and keeping score. This suits you, as you feel you're better compared to others. Religious hypocrites are in for a shock on judgment day. Most of them have never fully trusted Christ alone for salvation, and go about seeking their own righteousness, while using the Bible as a weapon.
gore53 2 weeks ago
@gore53 when are you going to open your eyes? You are listening and supporting a man who never preach the Gospel, refuses to judge Mormons and Muslims. We have a universalist who says everyone will go to heaven since they are good. If u get fed this message week in week out. You'll start believing you are good. Showing trust in Jesus for salvation includes repentance and turning away from your sins. Its God's work in you and he gets the credit for it. Not by your own works.
Mrhawklanz 2 weeks ago
@gore53 God gets the credit, NOT you. U claim since Jesus has done the work so your life is better and good now. It should make life better for you. Tell that it to the Christians in Iraq and Pakistan.
You support this guy? Fine. I'd rather listen MacArthur, Paul Washer, John Piper, RC Sproul than this universalist.
God does things according to he's will. He can make your life miserable 'according to he's purpose'. He's not an angry God. He's a JUST God. And sovereign to boot.
Mrhawklanz 2 weeks ago
@Mrhawklanz Well forgive me your holiness.
gore53 2 weeks ago
@Mrhawklanz
Joel pagan? He must be a christian. Christianity is as pagan as it can be. It adopted almost if not all pagan holidays and customs. It god needs blood to forgive. Ha,ha,ha. This is sick stuff.
One man YWHW helped sacrificed his virgin daughter.Judges11.YWHW loved this sacrifice so much, he made the great men of faith list in Hebrews 11
Truth, you want truth? Paul is a false apostle. jesuswordsonly(dot)com
thedagonjones 1 week ago
@thedagonjones What Jephthah did to his daughter was wrong but the problem was his vow that he made. As for the blood sacrifice, In Christianity God has to forgive sin by shedding blood, hence why Jesus died. Also there is no record of Christmas or Easter mentioned in the New Testament.
bobo577 5 days ago
@thedagonjones In the OT, animals were sacrificed to pay for sin.
bobo577 5 days ago
macarthtur is absolutely right satan is using osteen to decieve so many people right into hell and osteens followers and osteen himself are so blind to it they cant see it coming. i hope they repent and trust in the Lord jesus christ for the forgiveness of their sins.
RedemptionFORus 1 month ago
@RedemptionFORus ::: Since when did you become an expert on satan? What deception? To live a Christian life and grow in grace? Hardly. You need to repent of your judgmental attitude.
k0smon 13 hours ago
@k0smon since when did you or osteen become an expert on God??? Osteen's always preaching about how we are so worthy, we were born to win, we are good. the bible says Isaiah 64:6 says we are like filthy rags and Romans 3:10 no one is good not even one. Osteen NEVER preaches about why we need Gods grace I have NEVER heard him even mention the gospel (although I would NEVER let him be my source of teaching anyway) but you will hear him preach about how good we are and we are born winners. HERETIC!
RedemptionFORus 19 minutes ago
@k0smon ive never even seen him with notes or a bible in front of him? 2 Timothy 4:3-4 for the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. stop following this wolf and get into the gospel of jesus christ, and understand what Gods grace truley is, its not the one Osteen preaches about!!!
RedemptionFORus 2 minutes ago
Just read your bible and you know Joel Osteen is a false prophet, yet so many people are being deceived.
toffeementalist 1 month ago
@toffeementalist he is not a prophet and he did not claim to be one! What are you talking about?
Polishspring 4 weeks ago
a lot of lose words from the acuser Satan , he is using JOHN MACARTHUR mightly
breakfastbuddy63 1 month ago
@breakfastbuddy63 Do you disagree with him?
MrEnlighteneddespot 1 month ago
@breakfastbuddy63
yes sir. pimps pimping pimps
TheDiscipleJ 1 month ago
I have watched Joel several times on TV and I can say I have never even seen him open the Bible
b1650514 1 month ago
@b1650514 no bible or notes
RedemptionFORus 1 minute ago
That's the theme song from "Rocky".
BabyPuma124 1 month ago
This man's anger is born out of righteousness. I am looking into more of his (MacArthur's) sermons and his own church right now.
MichelleNJ1975 1 month ago
"He uses Jesus as a footnote".
Interesting. I think MacArthur is correct.
SpeakaDaEnglish 1 month ago 2
John has been lacking in grace for years. How sad to listen to this. John is certain that HE is right and damn you (literally) if you see things any other way becasue John is 100% correct.
MrQuaker62 1 month ago
John MacArthur is a heretic. He is no better than Osteen. He needs to take the huge forest out of his own eye first.
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow Goes to show how little you know. You learn and teach the bible ONLY. No add ons...no deletions...no just becuase you dont understand and or like a scripture then add your own twist to it, or taking things out of context to support a person own evil ways. Seems that what satanic Joel does...oh gosh golly did i say satanic joe? Yes i did.
JesusDiedforMe01 1 month ago
@JesusDiedforMe01
It's ok Brian. Take your meds and calm down.
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow Whos Brian? what meds?
JesusDiedforMe01 1 month ago
@JesusDiedforMe01
You are Brain and your meds.
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow He doesn't think that. John trusts in Jesus, not himself
worrierofgod4ever 1 month ago
@worrierofgod4ever
Is that what he told you?
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow No, listen what comes out of his mouth.
worrierofgod4ever 1 month ago
@worrierofgod4ever
I have. John MacArthur is a full blown heretic.
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow Brian...take it easy...take your medication
JesusDiedforMe01 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow Please show me with scripture why. Don't slander.
worrierofgod4ever 1 month ago 2
Joel needs to be slapped around a couple times to get him to wake up and see what hes doing is WRONG.
JesusDiedforMe01 1 month ago 2
@JesusDiedforMe01 hahhhaaa!!!
ddfrisky 1 month ago
Ahhhhhh. Children what are you going to do with them? This one doesn't have much sense. Oh, well, the Lord will teach her some manners.
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow You're going to be very ashamed when you stand before Christ to explain why you're so vulgar. Good night.
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 month ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
You won't stand before Christ, because He cannot stand the sight of you.
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow I'll be beside Him and you'll be in front of Him trying to answer His questions. Jesus Christ is Lord.
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow You're already in the Rubber Room. Sweet dreams.
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 month ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
Are those demonic visions still haunting you? Maybe you should ask them to up your meds dosage.
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow I bet you're about 13 or maybe 14 years old. Now, go to bed like a nice little girl, or your going to be in trouble. BTW, did you find your Bozo Channel yet? Just search "BOZO" - maybe you'll get lucky.
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 month ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
Do they let you watch TV in the psyche ward?
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
Yes, I found the Bozo Channel when I found you. Go take your meds.
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow I thought so. Just a little kid. Good night now.
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow You're very cocky for someone who says The Whole Truth Now. You don't believe the Bible? What's that matter with you - don't like the TRUTH? Jesus Christ was a JEW, His Disciples were JEWS, He told them to to preach to the JEW first, then the Gentiles. Are you a muslim? You sure sound like one. Your knee will bow & your tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the Glory of God the Father. Now why don't you go find the Bozo Channel and post on it?
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow Well, Hi Marsha!!! Glad to hear from you again. Sure hope you start reading your Bible. You have a lot of catching up to do!!!
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 month ago
It's not "popular" to say anything negative about Osteen these days. I appreciate John MacArthur not trying to be popular, but rather telling the TRUTH!! *That* is where the love is! God loves us so much & His plan is that we come to a right relationship with Him through His Son Jesus Christ & His work on the cross. That is love! That's Truth! If you tell lies, keep people from knowing God? Horrific. I ask that all Believers humble ourselves & pray that Osteen will come to know the Truth.
amylh322 1 month ago 5
There was no love in this message. The only thing shared was judgement. I'm thinking you're upset you are incapable of attracting the following Osteen has. Jealousy and envy is a horrible sin, especially when supporting your narrow-minded opinions with scripture. You of all people should know there is no love in judging others. It's funny how so many can quote a scripture and the scripture doesn't apply to the quoter, only to others. Look in the mirror.
slimdiggy511 1 month ago
He does preach works salvation. He also preaches Hell which is a false translation and a false teaching.
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow I think you need to go back and check your facts. Obviously you've been misinformed by somebody, because it doesn't take but a short sampling of his sermons to know he preaches faith alone... furthermore, what faulty scholarship has mislead you to believe that hell is not a literal place?... and if that is the definition of what makes him a false preacher then your standard can't possibly be the same as scripture.
plymc9 1 month ago
@plymc9
John knows the Greek text says Gehenna - not Hell. I have listened to John MacArthur for years and I know exactly what he preaches. He preaches Lordship salvation which is another form of works salvation. Man cannot add to God's salvation. John MacArthur is a heretic - plain and simple. Quit following men and follow God.
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
Joel Osteen is not a Christian. Period.
BDUBYAUSA 1 month ago
@BDUBYAUSA
John McArthur is not a Christian. Period.
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow how so?
plymc9 1 month ago
@plymc9
He is a false teacher and an accuser of the brethren. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow What false doctrines does he teach that are false? He preaches against works salvation, but rather that only faith alone in Jesus Christ is what saves. How is he a false teacher?
plymc9 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow Haha..that's one of the funniest arrogant statements I've seen made on YouTube! If you cannot notice the truths that John preaches from the Scriptures and notice the love He has for Christ, than you clearly have no trace of God inside of you. Next you're going to tell me that Paul wasn't a Christian either!
BDUBYAUSA 1 month ago
@BDUBYAUSA
If you are looking for arrogance - look no further that John MacArthur. He is no more a Christian than the Pharisees were. He is a legalistic and pompous heretic. He does not even believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit! He is a blasphemer. You REALLY need to WAKE UP!
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow Right because a legalist always preaches salvation by grace alone, through faith alone in Christ, not by our own will or doing, right? I cannot stand people like you. You have no clue what John even believes or teaches. You think you know the man's ministry and heart because you read a website falsely accusing him of error. There are very few who love, honor, and cherish God's Word more than him. You do not believe the truth because Jesus' Words have no place in you. How sad
BDUBYAUSA 1 month ago
@BDUBYAUSA
John MacArthur teaches Lordship salvation. He was booted from our local radio station for his false teachings. I listened to John for many years and I know EXACTLY what he teaches. You are a fool for listening to this heretic. Please go get some wisdom and discernment. I am baptized in the Holy Spirit and have been crucified with Christ. John MacArthur would not know Jesus if He sat in his lap. And obviously, neither would you. You are a brainwashed man follower. Repent!
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow Sorry buddy but Jesus taught Lordship salvation as well:) Read Matt. 7:21-23. All you charasmatic freaks care about is feeling and not truth. It's pathetic and not biblical. I'll choose to worship in Spirit and in truth..not just emotionalism and demonism. I repent daily, my heart and conscience are clear before the Lord. I do not worship John MaCarthur or any other man. My heart belongs to Jesus Christ.He will be the one I follow:)
BDUBYAUSA 1 month ago
@BDUBYAUSA
Jesus did not teach the NT church! He was talking to OT Jews! PLEASE go learn your Bible! PLEASE! How old are you? You do not have a clue what the truth is!
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow How sad..yet another professing believer, living a life who thinks he knows Christ that will end up in hell. I'll be praying for you my friend:(
BDUBYAUSA 1 month ago
@BDUBYAUSA
I am baptized in the Holy Spirit who is the SEAL and GUARANTEE of my inheritance and redemption! So you better be praying for YOURSELF because you are lost in ignorance and deception. Please repent of your vile heresy.
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow Sorry, just because you had an emotional experience at RA camp when you were a kid doesn't mean you're saved. You don't believe in the truth. You're a wolf and snake, causing nothing but division amongst true believers. What a pathetic joke of a man!
BDUBYAUSA 1 month ago
@BDUBYAUSA
Satan is the accuser of the brethren. Get thee behind me Satan. I have a deeply intimate relationship with Jesus Christ, my Lord and my God. You are deceived beyond comparison. Please repent of your grossly vile and demented sins. I was saved as an adult, not as a child. Try again Mr Accuser! SHAME ON YOU!
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@TheWholeTruthNow Jesus Christ is the ROCK upon which He said He was building His Church. Each Disciple was the START of the NT Church. Christ is the HEAD of His Church & EVERY believer makes up Body of the Church/Jesus Christ. I don't know where you got your information, but the "Church" is the PEOPLE that Believe, Worship, Love, Accept Jesus Christ, starting with the 1st Believer.
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 month ago
Wow haters GOD is the only judge who ever is not right in the eyes of the father will be judged by him and him only. Who cares what another person has to say about Joel he is not Jesus we are to walk Christ like and the advise Joel gives is that STOP HATING. HE never said worship me he does not say satin is the way he says JESUS is the way to the father,,
KEIYON26 1 month ago
Private Interpretation...
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
he does not have the ability passed on from the spiritual blood line from the Apostles given by Jesus, in order to do that you would have to be Catholic or Orthodox. That means he really can't even baptize. These type of Protestant people are not of the Apostolic Succession. They can only trace thier roots back to Luther at the farthest.. which would be 1517AD,
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
I seen a little of one of his programs watching it with some Protestants, watching them watch him you would think he is the hero of the story not Jesus..It looked as if they were worshiping him.. You are supposed to present yourself before Jesus and go to Church, not get up put on your tv set and think your having Church in the living room. It ashamed the This kind of Preaching on Tv has replaced Jesus in the Eucharist.. Its always all about the preacher and HIS sermon..
dirtboy7777 2 months ago
"Olsteen is a heretic! Burn him at the stake!"
In a time not long ago, MacArthur would have relished having that kind of power. I might go as far as to say it would cause nothing short of glee in this otherwise dour and joyless old man.
Actually, a man who uses Bronze Age morality to increase his own power here on earth and instill a germinal seed of fear in a silent daddy authority in the sky in his obedient flock surely must derive some sort of sadistic joy out of it.
anodyneolo 2 months ago
THE LAST I SAW, OSTEEN INVITED HIGH PROFILE NON-BELIEVING SATANIC NEW AGE MESSAGE SPREADING CELEBRITIES TO HIS SERVICE & HAD THE CONGREGATION GIVE THEM ROUNDS OF APPLAUSE.
1.PLEASE STOP FILLING THE CHURCH WITH WOLVES!
2.JESUS IS THE ONLY ONE I AM PRAISING...NOT IDOLS!!
MRWBBIII 2 months ago 4
@MRWBBIII Maybe he is reaching out to them and believes if they come there, they will be changed in the name of Jesus.
artdogparrish06 2 months ago
@MRWBBIII Comments like this are the reason it is so difficult for non-believers to become believers. We should be thanking God that Oprah actually came to hear the word.
NateDCincinnati 1 month ago
@NateDCincinnati
Oprah???? She is a cult leader! She is a new ager! She is into that demonic "course in miracles".
TheWholeTruthNow 1 month ago
@MRWBBIII
The insecure god YWHW required Abram to kill and burn second son.Abram should have told voice"Get behind me demonic,the gods forbid murder,Gen9." Abram rebelled and prepared to burn son to Satanic voice.This is wicked by all moral standards.This sick god is capricious,fickle just as jealous pagan gods. Christians applaude Abram preparation for murder and burning son.Christianity needs classified as terror organization."In the beginning,the gods.."You are living deceptively.
thedagonjones 1 month ago
@truthsourcenet You state that Osteen is a counterfeit. I listen to him all the time. Pastor Joel preaches the Good News. You can have victory in your life if you abide in Christ. There was a time in my life when I really needed to be encouraged and Pastor Joel was there. I get e-mails every day that explain Gods promises IF YOU abide and obey the Lord. What's wrong with that??
Rotorcop12a 2 months ago
@cccfish10221022 when u tell someone scripture and they get mad its bc the truth is not in them. this verse explains bout having knowledge of Gods word.... Luke 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
cccfish10221022 2 months ago
@b215apple john 7:24 dont judge by appearance, but make rightcheous judgment. we have permission from God himself to 'judge' rigtcheously. 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
cccfish10221022 2 months ago
He covers all the points I noticed. I saw the same message in 'Live a yes life' by At Boshoff as well. They are all the same and in the same group. The message is very appealing to the flesh. Sadly, if we point out their errors, those who are blinded become upset because these preachers are 'Charisma' to them. Idolatry. They all say 'well-known', 'fastest growth' 'big' church which are all physical and nothing important. Very sad indeed but God is the one who reveals the truth at His timing.
skippy3737 2 months ago
J Osteen is a deceiver!
arek1212 2 months ago
I'm with Johnny mac! It's satanic mark Driscoll from mars hill said he really believes Joel os his brother!!
fullymanfullyGOD 2 months ago
Not a fan of Joel, a gospel without a cross, candy-coated theology that's pure fluff.....
Nicoya80 2 months ago
How can a wolf marry a fox, that's what I wanna know.
usenetposts 2 months ago
I don't like Osteen
THERepublic1971 3 months ago
All have sinned and greatly offended the holy God of the bible. The just punishment is death then hell. That's not Gods will. He suffered and died on the cross paying for the law you broke in His life's blood so He could legally dismiss your case. You must repent turn from sin and trust alone in Jesus Christ for your salvation.
mamainmancj 3 months ago
He is right, no way for happines and eternity except Jesus Christ. Positive thinking is nothing without the TRUTH, Jesus is the truth and the way, no man comes to the Father except by me. In Christ you find peace and joy in what you have, do I live in a bad house, NO, do I have everything I need and more, yes, Am I blessed , everyday. I give God the glory. Just I asked for forgivness through the blood of Christ, this is the TRUTH
jandjwebster 3 months ago
Joel osteeen? been jealous of Joel? That Teology Analfabeta? come on!
BeneiYahweh 3 months ago
john mcarthur tells us that the fulfillment of desires is satanic... i think he is a little out of the arena here... whats the alternative - live in a shit hole and be broke? No Elohim loves to bless us - just give it back to Him in being inclusive of those outside His Kingdom - no need for jets and hummers for yourself - hope and encouragement are commodites of the Kingdom of Elohim - if you have excess, bless others and yourself and give glory to Elohim for it. Give more than you retain.
etherform66 4 months ago
@etherform66 YES, look at David and King Solomon....wise men of the bible and they had it all because they were Faithful to the Lord. This mcarthur has done nothing but JUDGE and ENOUGH is enough with Osteen book....ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE US. Jesus even forgives a prostitute! or an adulterer!
b215apple 2 months ago
Alot of these preachers are jealous of Joel Osteen!!!!!!!!!!! They are just upset that they are not as successful as him. I like John Macarthur but come on man!! If you listen to what Joel Osteen really preach about you would understand that many ppl have different ways of preaching. Just because its not the way you preach it does not mean to its not right!! Joel does preach against the flesh and sin. But not often. Some of this stuff is common sense
tripleb1987 4 months ago
@tripleb1987 We're not jealous. We're afraid for them and their followers. If you are living your best life now, then you are not living your best life in the life to come. God has not called us to dream a bigger dream. God commands all men everywhere to repent.
thirdimpact 3 months ago
@tripleb1987 The problem is that what Joel Osteen "preaches" isn't in line with Scripture. He preaches another gospel and, according to the Bible, he is accursed because of that. Study the Word before you type unbiblical nonsense.
metanoeo1 3 months ago
Was Jesus a rich or poor man? Was he born into a kingdom or a small village of around 100 people? Jesus was homeless during his ministry and at many times hungry never serving himself.
gilbert4321 3 months ago
Joel osteen was on larry king live and would not even acknowledge Christ as being the only way. Which is christianity 101. He never preaches sin...repentance...or any other hard to swallow message in the Gospel. The trinity broadcast network (TBN) will not remove this phalse prophet from their air waves because of the huge cash contribution he makes. But they part ways with Jack Van Impe because he stands for the truth.
newj34 4 months ago
I used to have respect for John MacArthur. Now I have much more respect for Joel Osteen. In the bible the Accuser of the Brethren was the devil. Joel Osteen leads more people to Christ on one Sunday than Mr. MacArthur will in his lifetime. Sad to see.
christian41759 4 months ago
@christian41759 Joel creates false converts, not Christians. I have listened to many of his messages, never preaches biblical repentance or sin righteousness and judgment to come, he is not a Christian pastor, he is a motivational speaker. As a Christian it is the job of everyone of us to test the spirits and message based solely on the Word and Joel fails on all levels. This life is not supposed to be fantastic, death is for the believer as per Jesus. Luke 21:12-17 sounds pretty great.
courtoni20 4 months ago
@christian41759 - Numbers is not the test for building the True church of Christ, and for building True disciples of Christ. Jesus said, "My little flock" not my mega churches! Of course he will bring in many more people, but not to the True God, many love to hear what tickles their ears so be cautious and test all that is said against the authority of God's Word.
5182103616 4 months ago
I agree! Joel osteen is no man of God.
newj34 4 months ago
very sad.
nowaydudebook 4 months ago
John MacArthur, what a waste of time and energy to condemn a fellow preacher. Perhaps you need to follow Jesus and become a carpenter instead of a preacher. Your ego is on parade here. Humility escapes you. May your listeners be revolted by your attitude and words of condemnation.
k0smon 4 months ago
I SAW JESUS DESCENDING FROM THE HEAVEN TODAY!!1
Everybody Rejoice!!! Around 4:30 am USA Eastern time it started with rain and wind.
Today September 30 2011, I saw the Heaven open and Jesus was coming!!
Everybody hurry up!! find somebody who has been baptized before and fill your bath tub and let them baptized you in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. Just accept that Jesus died and save you from your sins.. Hurry
nboachie4 5 months ago
@nboachie4 were you on acid???
Rocky777 4 months ago
He is just like demonic Oprah and her godless gurus. They are false prophets who lie that their mind controls the universe? Then how come Oprah is not 99 lbs. and would have brought back The Chicago Olympic Games (she epic failed) This video exposes what is happening in most of today's churches! And the new age lies that Oprah and her god hating gurus teach now...
memama2 5 months ago