Guys, seriously if you dont like this then fuck off. I hate how people would just criticise on other peoples videos STFU if you dont like it then why would you listen to it. You guys have lives go live it. stop being a bunch of fucking dicks.
I legitimately hate each and every one of these kids. This little "crab-core" thing needs to end immediately. Fuck their drummer writing "hope" on his hand. This band is just another band trying to get cool off their image of "love" and "hope". Fuck them all.
theyre making music man....if you dont like it...go out and try and do a better job...what right do you have to say any different by just sitting there on your lazy asses and complaining....go out and make a difference and stop filling your heart with pointless rage and jealousy
that is the most terrifyly dreadful scream music i have ever heard. ruined a good song - and they make money through this? which kinda person listens to this cra[p], no offence readers, but you really need help.
I think this cover is amazing. I've seen people do this kinda screamo Voice, it's not just screaming, doing this voice and maintaining it takes skill, and I love bands that can mix Screamo singing with normal sounding singing, like ISMFOF.
@parsnivelous hahaha its awesome as shit! ( in a horrible way) This makes me LAUGH that people consider this good/serious music when to an actual musician its a JOKE! 100% Joke, there look, there sound, there whole Lifes... wow... lol Looks like they are going to cry at moments
No, this is a sick perversion of an excellent composition by Jimmy Tamborello and Ben Gibbard. These asshats do have nice ballerina slippers, hair and crabcore moves however, They are probably going to change the music landscape with their original sound.
they're wearing TOM shoes so... wow you're an asshole. Those shoes help give shoes to homeless kids in africa and shit. Hope you feel good making fun of them. prick
No U. Lets forget about thier dumb shoes and concentrate on the "music". What is good about this? They sound like every other shitty screamo/metalcore band. A little creativity never wouldn't hurt them.
im a fan of many of the hardcore genres, but this really does kill the original. it takes away from all the musicality of the Postal Service version. They didnt even keep the melody, instead constricting it to the stereotypical vocals of the genre. :P
because musical taste is based on opinion, and in the opinion of this bands fans... it sounds good. Why do you like the music you like? In my opinion, it probably sounds like shit, but I don't go talking shit on their youtube videos and make a public douchebag of myself. k thx
Thank you, acitonj, for proving your stupidity. Apparently you didn't read the comment before yours. And furthermore, you say their instrumental tracks are tweaked, as if the Postal Service's aren't. Also lol @ whoever said the drummer wasn't matching with the song and called the band stupid for that. That's actually the responsibility of the director, not the band.
Er, Postal Service is an electronic band. The use synths to make their music. They aren't claiming to be 'playing' guitar like these guys.. I'm not huge on electronic music, either, but atleast they aren't trying to pass altered instrument charts as their own. Arranging a melody on Logic then using it as a backing track is different then auto tuning your guitar track.
Nope :P Iron and wine covered the song, which was by the postal service, before its initial release. However, were both released on the Postal Service's "Such Great Heights" single.
Idc if you dont like the music. But how many of you guys sitting at your computers think you can out scream this dude? and dont bullshit and say you can. Hes pretty good.
He's pretty terrible. He is screams with such poor technique (using his throat v. using his diaphragm) that he frequently gets nosebleeds at live shows. Utter shit.
He may have it all wrong... But its still a unique scream. I mean, i think it sounds pretty intense, but if you guys dont like it thats kool, im just saying its better to be unique than here people saying, oh he sounds just like a dude from another band.
Wow, almost everybody that commented this video is pretty much retarded; incable of stringing together enough words to form a proper sentence. Here's food for thought: they took an amazing song and made it their own. That's the true purpose of a cover. Everyone that's trashing them based off of their hair and/or shirts are, no offense, stupid. The band has taste or they wouldn't have even heard of this song in order to cover it. Get your genres figured out and then feel free to critique.
I'm pretty sure I have my genres figured out so I'll give this a go. This band's musicality is laughable at best. You can tell that these instrumental tracks have been severely tweaked. They sound too robotic. The drummer's clean vocals sound very whiny. Whoever that cool guy is who is screaming keeps dropping out at random times and sounds like he is just talking loudly. They sound like they have only one guitarist because it seems there is only one track present..
I don't give a fuck if it's a cover or not, this band sucks, their style is gay, don't know the guys personally, but judging a book by it's a cover I'm just gonna say they're pussies.
Yeah, they might have a good "taste" but how they got caught up in metal I have no idea.
hahahhahahahahahahhahaha this is funny as hell. 0:44 is what this music does to people's brains. Oh and yeah this song was originally by Postal Service, not Iron and Wine. They just covered it.
Iron and Wine's material is also a cover. This song is by The Postal Service and has been heard in every commercial in the past 5 years. (hell, even the iron & wine version is in an M&Ms commercial for christ sake)
I don't understand why people who are insulting this video are getting negative comments. This is a huge disgrace and totally ruined an amazing song. If I was The Postal Service I'd be royally pissed.
wow----its just like all the hair bands in the 80s, and the grunge bands in the 90s.... they all look, dress and sound the same... pretty much identical to any other band of this 'style' nowadays..... I think I want hair metal or grunge back... cuz this stuff is worse than both of those put together. I mean this really, really, really, sux.
I can put everything I have into, say, creating a sculpture - but since I have no talent for sculpting it's still going to look like it was done by a 5 year old.
i prefer this over the original
fuck haters
drumdemon001 2 years ago 2
same here bro. this is more my style .
xXxEnterShikarixXx7 2 years ago
Guys, seriously if you dont like this then fuck off. I hate how people would just criticise on other peoples videos STFU if you dont like it then why would you listen to it. You guys have lives go live it. stop being a bunch of fucking dicks.
KennettesTHEmann 2 years ago
this cover fucking sucks, who cares what you hate. i hate people who turn bitch over other people's criticisms.
1 STAR BITCHES
mccainMOARlikemcFail 2 years ago
I legitimately hate each and every one of these kids. This little "crab-core" thing needs to end immediately. Fuck their drummer writing "hope" on his hand. This band is just another band trying to get cool off their image of "love" and "hope". Fuck them all.
Sinkman 2 years ago
I cant believe I'm hearing this. It's actually a true insult to the song. They've stripped it of all it's meaning and beauty.
evolk8 2 years ago 2
They all look the same. And aren't good. And are pretty damn generic.
Fail.
volfanman2001 2 years ago 3
they do look the same. and are very generic. check out attack attack. hahhahaha.
chadinterrupted 2 years ago
whoah! okay so the screaming wasnt my fav style but i loved it!
this is so b.a.
i like the clean too. 2:35 breakdown was my fav part
XxguitaraddictionxX 2 years ago
you try and scream better
xJosiahXc93 2 years ago
theyre making music man....if you dont like it...go out and try and do a better job...what right do you have to say any different by just sitting there on your lazy asses and complaining....go out and make a difference and stop filling your heart with pointless rage and jealousy
samtomwright1234 2 years ago
fuck you haters! i love the original and i love this version... u dont like it cos u r way to close minded. people who loves music, loves this shit!
angelandairwavezzz 2 years ago
i fucking hate you for ruining this song.
robpness 2 years ago
this is absolutely terrible.
i really hope this is a joke.
FUCK
KatiesBasement 2 years ago
that is the most terrifyly dreadful scream music i have ever heard. ruined a good song - and they make money through this? which kinda person listens to this cra[p], no offence readers, but you really need help.
HACJ38 2 years ago
I think this cover is amazing. I've seen people do this kinda screamo Voice, it's not just screaming, doing this voice and maintaining it takes skill, and I love bands that can mix Screamo singing with normal sounding singing, like ISMFOF.
Gameorama91 2 years ago
agree with p0rksta, this cover is the shit,...u guys just hate too much...get a life
RatedROpportunist 2 years ago
i appear to be the first non troll here. this song fucking rocks. fuck you all.
p0rksta 2 years ago 2
@p0rksta Agreed.
wohleralex 2 years ago
Who the fuck are these clowns, and why are they turning a great song into shit?
analogdharma 2 years ago
This is horrible. And they all have the same lame hair.
parsnivelous 2 years ago
@parsnivelous hahaha its awesome as shit! ( in a horrible way) This makes me LAUGH that people consider this good/serious music when to an actual musician its a JOKE! 100% Joke, there look, there sound, there whole Lifes... wow... lol Looks like they are going to cry at moments
GuitarmanST 2 years ago
They fucked up the postal service...god damn I hate this new genre of fucking music.
mobilesuitZer0 2 years ago
this is horrible... horrible and wrong.... horrible and wrong and lame...... horrible and wrong and lame and horrible again.
jnuhjnuh 2 years ago
thats because u like country music
AJwentyoyoyoyo 2 years ago
i think i know whos my favorite band now
AJwentyoyoyoyo 2 years ago
This song is kickass fuck all you haters
MexicanAcrobat 2 years ago
No, this is a sick perversion of an excellent composition by Jimmy Tamborello and Ben Gibbard. These asshats do have nice ballerina slippers, hair and crabcore moves however, They are probably going to change the music landscape with their original sound.
sparti023 2 years ago
well its your opinion
MexicanAcrobat 2 years ago
they're wearing TOM shoes so... wow you're an asshole. Those shoes help give shoes to homeless kids in africa and shit. Hope you feel good making fun of them. prick
ANewTypeOfPunk 2 years ago
No U. Lets forget about thier dumb shoes and concentrate on the "music". What is good about this? They sound like every other shitty screamo/metalcore band. A little creativity never wouldn't hurt them.
sparti023 2 years ago
I think they're better then most, these guys are much better then TDWP and such
ANewTypeOfPunk 2 years ago
This really made me laugh, because it is terrible. Do people actually like this? I am so sad for them.
proposals 2 years ago
this is terrible, and that means aot because well i like attack attack
mxpx1982 2 years ago
i lurv this song, pure bliss :)
Godrocscreamo 2 years ago
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slayer sucks and i didnt see crap core just synchronized head banging
Sk8BrentSk8 2 years ago
fuck yeah crabcore
Thalion87 2 years ago
Listen To Slayer
DeanMcLean 2 years ago
this is shit
t0psecretshit 2 years ago
i hate that you can't vote 0*
gerritfries 2 years ago
i hate everything.......
this just killed me to watch
i hope they van flip
crabwalker43 2 years ago
im a fan of many of the hardcore genres, but this really does kill the original. it takes away from all the musicality of the Postal Service version. They didnt even keep the melody, instead constricting it to the stereotypical vocals of the genre. :P
no like
lilmateo91690 2 years ago
2:32 Makes my day :D
catherinecupcake 2 years ago
this is rflower
robbromero 2 years ago
wtf this version sucks
All about PostalService
Erniethenoob 2 years ago
stop listening to it if its so bad to all you fags and rate 5 not 2 its better then that DAM
goffyskater92 2 years ago
this is so bad!!!
angelorio 2 years ago
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hope you guys know they ruined this song
Timmmmmaay 2 years ago
yo fuck all of you this is a great cover
goffyskater92 2 years ago
Wow.. Why do people like this..?
ssiizzeeX 2 years ago
because musical taste is based on opinion, and in the opinion of this bands fans... it sounds good. Why do you like the music you like? In my opinion, it probably sounds like shit, but I don't go talking shit on their youtube videos and make a public douchebag of myself. k thx
TheJschafer89 2 years ago
I smell contradictions in your post, nice.
ssiizzeeX 2 years ago
horrible cover.
kulafox 2 years ago
fuck this shit
tailwhip0000 2 years ago
i lovve this cover epic
and if you dont like it go suck some dick you twats x
HeadbangingxPrincess 2 years ago
Seriously? Are you kidding me? Yeah lets make our single a cover. Good going, you chopped my musical dick off with your shitty ass cover.
2:55 - 3:04 nice synchronized headbanging, dumbass.
EveryoneSins 2 years ago
its like pop meets screemo meets gay clothes.
stude444 2 years ago
i prob gave this vid 150 views...today
chrisand002 2 years ago
same here...possibly even more
eMoTiOnAlSqUiRrEl 2 years ago
its called a cover..so its suppose to be mixed up with the band or singer's own style....if u dont like it then dont listen to it!!!
eMoTiOnAlSqUiRrEl 2 years ago
i dont know why everyone hats this version, i like it :)
SpongyeWest 2 years ago
what the fuck is this shit
SoupMuffin 2 years ago 2
Butchered. This is not music. I would sue them if I were Postal Service. Hell, I'd sue them now for making my EARS bleed.
Fatbatman 2 years ago
It scares me that they make money off of this bullshit.
rcflem 2 years ago
fuck you.
HoboInRed 2 years ago
Another song murdered
o0AcidDeath0o 2 years ago
fuck you
HoboInRed 2 years ago
QQ?
o0AcidDeath0o 2 years ago
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i love this song
LimePunk21 2 years ago
This band rocks.
dcroan 2 years ago
I dislike this song even more now that I know what these people look like.
yoyoguy1994 2 years ago
When he's not screaming his head off it's actually good.
rainbowxcandyx 2 years ago
Again, I agree with someone :P
If they had have not screamed, I guess you could say, it would be by FAR better =D
AnimeJelous 2 years ago
Did they honestly think this was going to be a good cover, or did they hate the original?
StarscreamsGirl 2 years ago 2
cool cover, quit baggin'. musical branching is the basis of all branching
TransparentWalls 2 years ago
this sucks
GavinDrake1 2 years ago 2
you suck.
TPC413 2 years ago
I don't get why you guys are so pissed of about this cover, the original was shit anyway so there wasn't exactly anything to 'ruin'.
sheepeasy 2 years ago
I agree with sheepeasy x]
AnimeJelous 2 years ago
this is..... ummmm interesting......it would be better if the guy could like i dunno
his scream just doesnt match...the kinda cover
Darkmetalrising 2 years ago
I personally love it more than Postal Service or w/e. =D
AnimeJelous 2 years ago
Thank you, acitonj, for proving your stupidity. Apparently you didn't read the comment before yours. And furthermore, you say their instrumental tracks are tweaked, as if the Postal Service's aren't. Also lol @ whoever said the drummer wasn't matching with the song and called the band stupid for that. That's actually the responsibility of the director, not the band.
insomniacian 2 years ago
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SkaSkaVideo 2 years ago
Er, Postal Service is an electronic band. The use synths to make their music. They aren't claiming to be 'playing' guitar like these guys.. I'm not huge on electronic music, either, but atleast they aren't trying to pass altered instrument charts as their own. Arranging a melody on Logic then using it as a backing track is different then auto tuning your guitar track.
acitonj 2 years ago
we're confused guys.. Is this Confide original song or was it a cover from other band? reply pls..
RunningFromReality09 2 years ago
cover
Whoslineisitanyway0 2 years ago
the original is by the postal service.
UselessInfo101 2 years ago
ohh, thanks dude! :D
RunningFromReality09 2 years ago
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The real original is by Iron & Wine
TKestMagique 2 years ago
The original is by The Postal Service, covered by Iron & Wine on The Postal Service released album as well as on Garden State.
Just fyi
KenMonsterful 2 years ago 3
Nope :P Iron and wine covered the song, which was by the postal service, before its initial release. However, were both released on the Postal Service's "Such Great Heights" single.
UselessInfo101 2 years ago
i think i just threw up in my mouth a little
jackalbott 2 years ago 5
someone please send my ears the number for the suicide hotline. i accidentally watched this bullshit.
bbath432 2 years ago 6
this is fucking TERRIBLE. you shouldn't get to ruin this song
Studskalny 2 years ago 2
ruined the original
marwutz 2 years ago 2
LOL!
konsblack 2 years ago
HAHAHAH IF YOU HEADBANG AS FAST AS YOU CAN (EVEN IF IT'S OFFBEAT) YOUR MUSIC IS BROOTAL HAHAHA
utter shit.
MaskedEmrys 2 years ago
thank you for FUCKING this song up
everrsosweeeet 2 years ago 5
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screw u they made this song ten times better
blackdash1991 2 years ago
Idc if you dont like the music. But how many of you guys sitting at your computers think you can out scream this dude? and dont bullshit and say you can. Hes pretty good.
TylerWilliamsMWHS 2 years ago
He's pretty terrible. He is screams with such poor technique (using his throat v. using his diaphragm) that he frequently gets nosebleeds at live shows. Utter shit.
acitonj 2 years ago
Ruins your vocal chords is br00tal.
acitonj 2 years ago
He may have it all wrong... But its still a unique scream. I mean, i think it sounds pretty intense, but if you guys dont like it thats kool, im just saying its better to be unique than here people saying, oh he sounds just like a dude from another band.
TylerWilliamsMWHS 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA OH MY GOD IS THIS A JOKE?
alvareo92 2 years ago 2
Bands like these give hardcore a bad name, makes everyone think any music that involves screaming is gay. Thanks Attack Attack
Spwee1494Halo 2 years ago 2
crabcore ftw
Zannyzaitzev 2 years ago
...really? :(
paralasalud 2 years ago
The drummer's a hottie
SharkBanana 2 years ago
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A vast improvement over the original.
jeriaskavlog 2 years ago
Are you serious?
jiggms95 2 years ago
Wow, almost everybody that commented this video is pretty much retarded; incable of stringing together enough words to form a proper sentence. Here's food for thought: they took an amazing song and made it their own. That's the true purpose of a cover. Everyone that's trashing them based off of their hair and/or shirts are, no offense, stupid. The band has taste or they wouldn't have even heard of this song in order to cover it. Get your genres figured out and then feel free to critique.
ijb814 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure I have my genres figured out so I'll give this a go. This band's musicality is laughable at best. You can tell that these instrumental tracks have been severely tweaked. They sound too robotic. The drummer's clean vocals sound very whiny. Whoever that cool guy is who is screaming keeps dropping out at random times and sounds like he is just talking loudly. They sound like they have only one guitarist because it seems there is only one track present..
acitonj 2 years ago
idk why you have a -1. everything you said is right.
jiggms95 2 years ago
And they dress like douchebags. Cute vests and capri pants, guys. You are dressing like how my mom did 10 years ago.
acitonj 2 years ago
mallcore haha
Temp144 2 years ago 3
wow yeah mans thats deep, got any more thought provoking ideas?
dumbass
MinnoqWV 2 years ago
I don't give a fuck if it's a cover or not, this band sucks, their style is gay, don't know the guys personally, but judging a book by it's a cover I'm just gonna say they're pussies.
Yeah, they might have a good "taste" but how they got caught up in metal I have no idea.
ShootFreelyAtCow 2 years ago
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that cover ruled. i knew this genre was good for something
Gabe238 2 years ago
Awful. I would like to formally apologize to Postal Service on behalf of humankind for this abomination.
zrhorner 2 years ago 3
people talk too much shit on youtube but they wouldnt be talking if they were at a hardcore concert
goson3 2 years ago
Oh no.. synchronized head banging. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!
acitonj 2 years ago
Haha that's cause they wouldn't waste money on this band.
ShootFreelyAtCow 2 years ago
hahahhahahahahahahhahaha this is funny as hell. 0:44 is what this music does to people's brains. Oh and yeah this song was originally by Postal Service, not Iron and Wine. They just covered it.
soccerjunkie7 2 years ago 3
pretty sure this called post hardcore dudes....... fucking fags if ur gonna dis a band have the balls to play better than them lmao
marcusnb 2 years ago
Metal is deathly ill and dying.. someone get rid of these fucking tumors and save the genre..
acitonj 2 years ago 2
on first tought i was gonna say shit... now that i kind of see it again im speechless. this is the biggest thing since shit!
Djnti 2 years ago
que vergeridad e rola!!!!! ...
mimishtlan 2 years ago
bullshit emo
poorpy134 2 years ago 3
oh your god (he's dead, otherwise divine intervention would have prevented this abomination)
TheLeakestWink 2 years ago 2
LOL F-CKING PATHETIC
alecryan14 2 years ago 3
This is the most juvenile thing I've ever seen. Jesus Christ, eat a sandwich, find a guitar sound with tone, get a haircut and be yourself. Christ.
CarnalDestroyer 2 years ago 5
This shit is fucking tight, love it.
ryanolson7 2 years ago
this is so so so shit
duderanch321 2 years ago 4
oh my god this is so shit
a disgrace....
duderanch321 2 years ago 3
This is AWESOME AND ALL THE KIDS SHOULD LISTEN TO NOTHING BUT THIS, thereby staying the fuck out of my scene
halfeatenface 2 years ago
This is so bad that it defies description. I sincerely hope that by now all of you in Confide have been killed in an auto accident or something.
Bassist21050 2 years ago
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they're awesome shut up and listen to it stupid people..
blessthedollar 2 years ago
wow...this is fucking awful.
jbmayer 2 years ago 3
have fun working at Burger King in a few years you dorks
draculamountain 2 years ago
what is this gay shit hahaha
Kingdagmarius 2 years ago 2
Crabcore!
KloggTheNeanderthal 2 years ago 3
HOT HARDCORE I REPEAT NOT HARDCORE
saitorul 2 years ago 2
Confide ftw.
MrWinSause 2 years ago
These people could not have had a worse idea. The Postal Service should be embarrassed.
KeithGrind 2 years ago
everyone has their own opinion,
doesnt hurt my feelings
shortys00911 2 years ago
get some haircuts
Flyron3 2 years ago 2
Screams are horrible. xD
Get a better screamer and then it would awesome. =D
KolLiZlOlL 2 years ago
everything sounds so much better when its hardcore =)
i personally find this a very enjoyable song =)
shortys00911 2 years ago
So you're a gay fish?
I hate to quote South Park, but seriously?
This is a terrible remake of a great song. Hardcore bands have their niche market with 12 year old scene girls. Lay off Iron and Wine's material.
KornfreakK7 2 years ago
i agree with you for the most part but, it's postal services song.... iron and wine made the first cover..... but nice try.
CouldHaveBeenBetter1 2 years ago
the originals by the postal service actually but yeah, i agree
raptorsfanatic 2 years ago
Iron and Wine's material is also a cover. This song is by The Postal Service and has been heard in every commercial in the past 5 years. (hell, even the iron & wine version is in an M&Ms commercial for christ sake)
R.I.P. "hardcore" and "indie rock" both.
vocalyouth 2 years ago
I don't understand why people who are insulting this video are getting negative comments. This is a huge disgrace and totally ruined an amazing song. If I was The Postal Service I'd be royally pissed.
spiderVSbat 2 years ago 3
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Actually, if you were Iron and Wine you'd be royally pissed. Postal Service gets all the credit, but it is I&W's song originally.
kmatthews980 2 years ago
why did they think this was a good idea
chris2388 2 years ago 5
This SHit is Wack
GiveMeTheFroob 2 years ago 2
w00t w00t! CRABCORE FTW!
lynchelectro 2 years ago
Way to ruin a good song. He screams like 11 year old Wonder Wuss.
Inuyasha856048 2 years ago
If it wasn't for the drummer, I probly would've stopped about 45seconds into the song.
Drummers' vocals aren't too bad and it's funny watching him beat the hell out of his drum set.
Attreyu10 2 years ago
CRABCORE!
antitheistlife 2 years ago
what the fuck is this shit?¿???!??!?!!!! THEY HAVE DESTROYED THE SONG
guisauco93 2 years ago
wow----its just like all the hair bands in the 80s, and the grunge bands in the 90s.... they all look, dress and sound the same... pretty much identical to any other band of this 'style' nowadays..... I think I want hair metal or grunge back... cuz this stuff is worse than both of those put together. I mean this really, really, really, sux.
SonicAge2003 2 years ago
i'm in love with the singers sumo move at 2:57 into the deeper part of the breakdown.
rpior91 2 years ago
advice: The following video contains crabcore, , DON'T WATCH WHILE DRINKING SOMETHING, YOU WILL SPIT IT OUT
r4dioN 2 years ago
"go kill yourself, you emo piece of shit. "
What are you, twelve?
donjohn0904 2 years ago
wtf look up The Postal Service - Such Great Heights High Rez. thats sounds the same wtf
AndyAngelZ 2 years ago
i mean the intro was ok... until he started screaming and playing power chords and all that.. it just ruined it
AndyAngelZ 2 years ago
wow...this is disgusting.
moggieman10 2 years ago
There just might be a law that Ben Gibbard can use against stuff like this
lowregister 2 years ago
CRABCORE
Grifff0 2 years ago
why would they go through the trouble of making a music video for a cover. -_-
bentruong3 2 years ago
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Wow. Ok these guys kick ass. The singer puts everything he has into his vocals, and that is amazing. Much love. Great song, great video.
xRaineNothingx 2 years ago
I can put everything I have into, say, creating a sculpture - but since I have no talent for sculpting it's still going to look like it was done by a 5 year old.
niftykeentypedog 2 years ago