I would never say Ortiz has a chin, he has been knocked down more than a handful of times. I see this fight as a toss up.
I'm going to have to pick Berto, he is going to come in more determined, and Ortiz is coming back from a loss, and he can be a mental midget more often than not, his fights with Maidana, Peterson, and Mayweather are evidence of that.
I see Berto taking this fight, stopping Ortiz in 6.
I agree but Berto did not look him self the first time the fought and if that was because Ortiz was putting it on him then the same thing is going to happen. However, if Berto was not 100% the last time and this time he is I have to give it to Berto.
I like Ortiz...just for the fact that this will be his 3rd fight I believe at 147...I think his body has done its adjusting...the Mayweather fight was a KO but not a beat down so he should rebound from that...I like bertos power but I don't think he has the heart...he stops boxing in late rounds and has a face of what am i doing here...so I give Ortiz the edge with his bigger will to win...I say 10 KO for ortiz...but Berto has more of a punchers chance to win at any point
This should be an interesting fight, but from seeing both fighters, it could all boil down to a mental thing for both of them, Berto needs to start fast and try to get Ortiz out of there in the first 6 rounds as I think the longer the fight goes on, it would suit Ortiz better. Love and Peace Out Belle x :)
Hey scooter, I have to disagree with you on this one. I think that Berto will come out boxing for this fight. No like the last time. I think that he under estimated Ortiz last time. Ortiz seems to lose his composure easily. Berto will fluster him with his movement and not try to bang with him.
A few things that you didnt consider...1. Boxers coming back after their chin has been crushed are generally Alot worse than they were previously. Although that has to do with other things like lifestyle, and weight gain, maturity, all of which im not sure ortiz is very stable with. 2nd i dont remember ortiz having a particularly good jab, hes never won a fight solely on his jab, infact berto probably has a better jab. Hard to think ortiz is the better Boxer, and i like berto
@ekingh22 Ortiz isn't known for a powerful jab. His jab is a probing one, as Peterson put it. I expect his jab to open up Berto as mentioned... I don't expect Dre to bring anything of too much trouble to Victor. Thx for your feedback!
@BoxingBelle theres a great analysis video by stylezmakefights on the berto - ortiz 2 matchup and it really shows the case for ortiz. Berto does make alot of mistakes in the ring, but if he can pick up on them and improve on his technical flaws he has a much better chance. when predicting its allways good to look at training camp footage to see where the fighters are physically and mentally. and the word is berto is training like a beast,..but i havnt seen any footage yet.
Ortiz the man with all the power in the word (plus solid stalking technique) but Not the Mexican chin. Plus he doesn't like fighters bringing it to him, if berto doesn't bring it to him he gets Knocked out if he brings it to him he might get knocked out, Berto can't win.
@SledgehammerEditing Anyone blind sided with a straight from a elite athlete will hit the ground, any one in that division wouldve dropped, you can't compare being ready and being blind sided
It comes down to whose smarter. Berto can win but he has to fight a smart fight. If Berto boxes him Berto can win with his speed and better boxing skills. Berto is a better boxer than Ortiz. Ortiz is better in the power division. Ortiz will probably win because Berto will probably fight the same silly game plan he found in the first fight, standing in their fighting toe to toe.
I totally agree with you Belle, I believe both fighters are extremely strong, but I truly believe that Vicious Victor Ortiz is the better boxer. As you said, if it was not for the speed Berto possesses, Berto would have noooooo chance. I believe, and hope, Ortiz will win this one even clearer than he did on their first fight. Ortiz has improved his feet movement incredibly, which will only make him a generally overall better skilled boxer during this, and his upcoming matches. Ortiz all day:)
i think it'll resume right where the first one left off. i still think ortiz will win. Berto gased when he fought zaveck. Will there be knockdowns. Of course. Both tasted the ring in their first fight. I think it will go to decision for Ortiz.
Here's what's going to happen: Ortiz will lose by being a pussy like he was in the Mayweather fight! He'll be taking an ass whoopin by Berto, Ortiz wont be able to make adjustments & so he will resort to fighting dirty(Headbutts & maybe lowblows) & thus justifying Mayweather's "sucker punch" & showing how much of a bitch Ortiz really is!
I got to go with your prediction. I think Ortiz has Bertos number, Berto doesn't seem to do well with excess pressure and inside fighting. He does well only if his opponent goes backwards so this is surely a case of proper game plan( although mistakes can be fixed, habits are harder to fix). Ortiz round 10 TKO
This fight can go either way. Logic says that Ortiz should take it because of his previous win. But who really knows? In my opinion, Ortiz has taken a lot more punishment throughout his career, and that fucked up sucker punch didn’t help him. So endurance wise they’re the same. Ortiz, in my opinion, has more power. This can go either way, and this fight is what boxing is all about. Not that other one that shall remain unmentioned.
@31416and1618 Yeah Im pretty excited tbh. This is the fight that could easily be teh fight of the year! i see this being a high pressure fight and Ortiz will easily outbox Berto under those circumstances however will his mind be right?! lol who knows.
Is it wrong for Latinos to root for Latino fighters? I do think Berto is a great fighter and great man but I agree and think power will decide this one, I see Berto being stopped, kind of like Tommy Morrison vs Ray Mercer.
@kawaiisaki You are a flomo ... You sound like him and you make no sence didn't Marquez just do really good against pacquiao even though he lost to Floyd ...Floyd didn't hurt Ortiz in the fight just after the hug
Yesss!!!!! Ortiz wins because I saw a 100% Berto in the last fight .... His speed was their and people kept saying Berto should of boxed and not brawled but he was trying to box except that Ortiz strength is to try to make you brawl...... And in Berto camp he looks slower right now ...... I can't pick a side though both deserve to win it's a career defining match for both ... Ortiz needs a comeback while Berto needs to prove him self
This should be a hell of a fight. I think Berto underestimated Ortiz last year and didn't train hard. Ortiz is a beast when it comes to training. This fight should have plenty of knock downs.
how the fuck can u go for berto and he just CLEARLY lost in the first fight......CLEARLY..........NO DEBATING. dude just cuz ortiz lost to mayweather does not mean he's gnna lose against berto.. berto is soooooo many levels below mayweather its pathetic. i really think people saying this just somehow revolves back to hating mayweather. which is sad
@stlbound1 berto understimated ortiz coz ortiz was climbing up 1st fight at 147. i dunno maybe 147 is ortiz real weight thats why he stronger at this weight. the problem with berto is his defense he should move more or raised his hands up more to avoid those monster shots from oritz. berto was just got punch hard early in that fight and never recovered his legs. berto should starr early and raise his diefense.
Ortiz Needs To Work On His Mental Game. If He Can Improve That And Stay Focused, I Can Say He Can Become One Of The Greats Since He Already Has The Power And Technique. Until He Stays Mentally Weak, I Can't Say Nothing About Ortiz IMO. As For Berto, I See Him Giving Oritz The Run For The Money Again.. Can't Wait, Finally No BS Fight Coming Up.
@Phillyzbadboy420 yeah a lot see him in his prime right now...I don't think so. He has a lot of room for growth. I see him having the ability to be great. Berto is a good boxer but I don't see him being "great". Is Ortiz mentally weak? OF COURSE lol but yeah badass bout!
I predict this fight will be explosive like the first fight. I really like Berto as a person, but I see Ortiz winning this again. If it is a brawling match I see Ortiz winning, but if it comes to a boxing match I see Berto winning.
never mind berto whats ure nuber/
grahamparr11 2 weeks ago
Berto tore his bicep, he ain't boxing for a good year
0khans 1 month ago
This fight has officially been postponed and/or cancelled after Berto suffered an injury yesterday.
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
I would never say Ortiz has a chin, he has been knocked down more than a handful of times. I see this fight as a toss up.
I'm going to have to pick Berto, he is going to come in more determined, and Ortiz is coming back from a loss, and he can be a mental midget more often than not, his fights with Maidana, Peterson, and Mayweather are evidence of that.
I see Berto taking this fight, stopping Ortiz in 6.
Marz916 1 month ago
I agree but Berto did not look him self the first time the fought and if that was because Ortiz was putting it on him then the same thing is going to happen. However, if Berto was not 100% the last time and this time he is I have to give it to Berto.
uncletom321 1 month ago
Im not really pulling for either i just hope this fight is as good as the 1st one
MrFelonTelevision 1 month ago
I like Ortiz...just for the fact that this will be his 3rd fight I believe at 147...I think his body has done its adjusting...the Mayweather fight was a KO but not a beat down so he should rebound from that...I like bertos power but I don't think he has the heart...he stops boxing in late rounds and has a face of what am i doing here...so I give Ortiz the edge with his bigger will to win...I say 10 KO for ortiz...but Berto has more of a punchers chance to win at any point
ELbigstah 1 month ago
This should be an interesting fight, but from seeing both fighters, it could all boil down to a mental thing for both of them, Berto needs to start fast and try to get Ortiz out of there in the first 6 rounds as I think the longer the fight goes on, it would suit Ortiz better. Love and Peace Out Belle x :)
MythicalMystic 1 month ago
@MythicalMystic yeah if it even goes to the cards I don't see how Dre would have a chance. Hope you are well and had a great weekend :) x
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
I'm going with Ortiz only because i hate on black men.
gqunot69 1 month ago
Hey scooter, I have to disagree with you on this one. I think that Berto will come out boxing for this fight. No like the last time. I think that he under estimated Ortiz last time. Ortiz seems to lose his composure easily. Berto will fluster him with his movement and not try to bang with him.
rrskipper79 1 month ago
A few things that you didnt consider...1. Boxers coming back after their chin has been crushed are generally Alot worse than they were previously. Although that has to do with other things like lifestyle, and weight gain, maturity, all of which im not sure ortiz is very stable with. 2nd i dont remember ortiz having a particularly good jab, hes never won a fight solely on his jab, infact berto probably has a better jab. Hard to think ortiz is the better Boxer, and i like berto
ekingh22 1 month ago
@ekingh22 Ortiz isn't known for a powerful jab. His jab is a probing one, as Peterson put it. I expect his jab to open up Berto as mentioned... I don't expect Dre to bring anything of too much trouble to Victor. Thx for your feedback!
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
@BoxingBelle theres a great analysis video by stylezmakefights on the berto - ortiz 2 matchup and it really shows the case for ortiz. Berto does make alot of mistakes in the ring, but if he can pick up on them and improve on his technical flaws he has a much better chance. when predicting its allways good to look at training camp footage to see where the fighters are physically and mentally. and the word is berto is training like a beast,..but i havnt seen any footage yet.
ekingh22 1 month ago
Ortiz the man with all the power in the word (plus solid stalking technique) but Not the Mexican chin. Plus he doesn't like fighters bringing it to him, if berto doesn't bring it to him he gets Knocked out if he brings it to him he might get knocked out, Berto can't win.
0khans 1 month ago
@0khans Yeah I sure hes gone balls out for training and so long as Victors mind is right it should be a continuation of Part 1.
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
Mayweather knocked Ortiz out say what you want about it being cheap he took the 10 his chin is shit.
SledgehammerEditing 1 month ago
@SledgehammerEditing Anyone blind sided with a straight from a elite athlete will hit the ground, any one in that division wouldve dropped, you can't compare being ready and being blind sided
TrueHiphopTV 1 month ago
@SledgehammerEditing Did you just really use that as a solid claim against Victor's chin?
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
@BoxingBelle oh wait dropped by Berto & Maidana multiple times as well your boyfriend fucking sucks!
SledgehammerEditing 1 month ago
@slxdragon Hey I pronounce it right, it's everybody else who is wrong ;)
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
@lfkk NO! You don't have proof...
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
@MrJohnny583 You don't?! lol
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
Berto has to box and not get into a slugfest with Victor. That's the only way he can win. And by the way you are hot. :)
tracand327 1 month ago
It comes down to whose smarter. Berto can win but he has to fight a smart fight. If Berto boxes him Berto can win with his speed and better boxing skills. Berto is a better boxer than Ortiz. Ortiz is better in the power division. Ortiz will probably win because Berto will probably fight the same silly game plan he found in the first fight, standing in their fighting toe to toe.
cooljc26 1 month ago
Belle you think Ortiz is hot?
MrJohnny583 1 month ago
@BoxingBelle oh dont I know?
CHUCKTHEDOC 1 month ago
Bear-to? lol. Just messing with ya.
slxdragon 1 month ago
I'm going with Ortiz, but I wouldn't be surprised if Berto pulled it out either. It has the making of a good match again.
hawkermustang 1 month ago
@hawkermustang Your suppose to only support me bro you haven't suck me off on my latest videos I need dumb people to agree with me.
gqunot69 1 month ago
oooohhh.... you said 'motherfucker'
lfkk 1 month ago
Ortiz gonna beat the shit out of berto again.
510jt2700 1 month ago
All the fights berto has lost are due to his lack of endurance, and he is not getting any better as he ages, so I doubt he'll overcome it.
d1drifter87 1 month ago
I totally agree with you Belle, I believe both fighters are extremely strong, but I truly believe that Vicious Victor Ortiz is the better boxer. As you said, if it was not for the speed Berto possesses, Berto would have noooooo chance. I believe, and hope, Ortiz will win this one even clearer than he did on their first fight. Ortiz has improved his feet movement incredibly, which will only make him a generally overall better skilled boxer during this, and his upcoming matches. Ortiz all day:)
ZeralaN1 1 month ago
i think it'll resume right where the first one left off. i still think ortiz will win. Berto gased when he fought zaveck. Will there be knockdowns. Of course. Both tasted the ring in their first fight. I think it will go to decision for Ortiz.
TheBoxingCorner 1 month ago
Very good. I was thinking about making a video on this match myself. Thanks for pronouncing Berto correctly.
thegiftedmedia 1 month ago
@thegiftedmedia haha yeah I always pronounced it bear-toe but people always tells me I pronounce it wrong. LOL
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
@BoxingBelle I'm sure they don't speak french.
thegiftedmedia 1 month ago
i like what you did to the video color thing but yeah i think that sucker punch and berto properlly training will work on the part of berto winning
EagoTheEkkie 1 month ago
Ortiz has no heart..
Cuauhtli47 1 month ago
Here's what's going to happen: Ortiz will lose by being a pussy like he was in the Mayweather fight! He'll be taking an ass whoopin by Berto, Ortiz wont be able to make adjustments & so he will resort to fighting dirty(Headbutts & maybe lowblows) & thus justifying Mayweather's "sucker punch" & showing how much of a bitch Ortiz really is!
Belize2787 1 month ago
ortiz so gay
TALKCHEAP88 1 month ago
bertos head is so wide open and he never tucks that chin..ortiz again by a slight margin. thanks belle for the video
maze201 1 month ago
@maze201 & thanks for your feedback Maze :)
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
I got to go with your prediction. I think Ortiz has Bertos number, Berto doesn't seem to do well with excess pressure and inside fighting. He does well only if his opponent goes backwards so this is surely a case of proper game plan( although mistakes can be fixed, habits are harder to fix). Ortiz round 10 TKO
CAL1L1F3STYLE 1 month ago
@CAL1L1F3STYLE yeah with the pressure I think Ortiz is gonna box like a champ. Hopefully he doesn't pull a punk card ;)
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
Shit Ortiz says = at the end of the day ... Lol
1IImrxII1 1 month ago
@1IImrxII1 LOL word.
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
I HONESTLY THINK ORTIZ WILL TAKE THE FIGHT. BERTO IS FUCKING BAD ASSS BUT ORTIZ IS A BETTER MORE WELL ROUNDED FIGHTER.
basick123 1 month ago 5
@basick123 well said.
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
This fight can go either way. Logic says that Ortiz should take it because of his previous win. But who really knows? In my opinion, Ortiz has taken a lot more punishment throughout his career, and that fucked up sucker punch didn’t help him. So endurance wise they’re the same. Ortiz, in my opinion, has more power. This can go either way, and this fight is what boxing is all about. Not that other one that shall remain unmentioned.
31416and1618 1 month ago
@31416and1618 Yeah Im pretty excited tbh. This is the fight that could easily be teh fight of the year! i see this being a high pressure fight and Ortiz will easily outbox Berto under those circumstances however will his mind be right?! lol who knows.
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
What Ortiz learned to fight Mayweather will help him beat Berto! Berto doesn't do half the things Floyd does that Victor had to get ready for...
SKILLvsPILLS 1 month ago
a chin like no other and gets hit by mayweather and couldnt get up lol
jakekiser17 1 month ago
@jakekiser17 LOL are we talking sucker punches? ohhhhh in that case.
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
@BoxingBelle lol i kno he does got a chin he can take a big shot.
jakekiser17 1 month ago
@jakekiser17 He wasnt looking when the power shot came and wasnt tensedto absorb the hit at all. He wasnt getting up for a bit.
TheTrojanabuser 1 month ago
@TheTrojanabuser i kno i kno
jakekiser17 1 month ago
@TheTrojanabuser exactly...otherwise he couldve taken it haha Victor is badass when it comes to his chin.
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
berto gonna win
jakekiser17 1 month ago
Lo que una mujer caliente!'
Is it wrong for Latinos to root for Latino fighters? I do think Berto is a great fighter and great man but I agree and think power will decide this one, I see Berto being stopped, kind of like Tommy Morrison vs Ray Mercer.
chucknchar 1 month ago
@chucknchar haha umm thanks Chuckers and nahhhh it's called unity but don't do it blindly LOL
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
I am going with the Mentally Unstable Ortiz, One Power Shot landed on Berto and same story.
S0S0BOXING 1 month ago
@S0S0BOXING HAHAHAHAHA mentally unstable.
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
3:53 "Put all that jizz..." I love you stephs xD
MysteryoftheGods 1 month ago
@MysteryoftheGods Hey Mystery!!!! LOL I tried to correct myself real fast too. Guess I didn't do too well if you noticed ;)
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
@BoxingBelle Nope. jizzed so fast im having your baby now. THANKS >:(
MysteryoftheGods 1 month ago
@MysteryoftheGods damn I'm good! lmao
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
@BoxingBelle Haha yea. Too bad I am infertile :/ Thanks for the bad memories.
MysteryoftheGods 1 month ago
ill go with ortiz..
nixdaduda11 1 month ago
@kawaiisaki You are a flomo ... You sound like him and you make no sence didn't Marquez just do really good against pacquiao even though he lost to Floyd ...Floyd didn't hurt Ortiz in the fight just after the hug
1IImrxII1 1 month ago
Berto can't fight on the inside
Doze06 1 month ago
Yesss!!!!! Ortiz wins because I saw a 100% Berto in the last fight .... His speed was their and people kept saying Berto should of boxed and not brawled but he was trying to box except that Ortiz strength is to try to make you brawl...... And in Berto camp he looks slower right now ...... I can't pick a side though both deserve to win it's a career defining match for both ... Ortiz needs a comeback while Berto needs to prove him self
1IImrxII1 1 month ago
Im not a fan of either guys but i can Clearly see Berto winning.
reasons.
1: Random blood testing
2: No ones ever the same after getting beat by Mayweather
3: Every interview Ortiz talks about mayweather instead of his upcoming bout
4: Theres a Clear blue print on how to beat Ortiz. he cant get away from a quick right
5: Berto looks incredibly Focused
kawaiisaki 1 month ago
This should be a hell of a fight. I think Berto underestimated Ortiz last year and didn't train hard. Ortiz is a beast when it comes to training. This fight should have plenty of knock downs.
salsanz13 1 month ago
i don't even care who wins! awesome fight!!
RJJP4PKING 1 month ago
@RJJP4PKING exactly. This could be the fight of the year if we don't get the mega bout. I should say WHEN we don't get the mega bout.
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
how the fuck can u go for berto and he just CLEARLY lost in the first fight......CLEARLY..........NO DEBATING. dude just cuz ortiz lost to mayweather does not mean he's gnna lose against berto.. berto is soooooo many levels below mayweather its pathetic. i really think people saying this just somehow revolves back to hating mayweather. which is sad
stlbound1 1 month ago
@stlbound1 Well said Damo!
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
@stlbound1 berto understimated ortiz coz ortiz was climbing up 1st fight at 147. i dunno maybe 147 is ortiz real weight thats why he stronger at this weight. the problem with berto is his defense he should move more or raised his hands up more to avoid those monster shots from oritz. berto was just got punch hard early in that fight and never recovered his legs. berto should starr early and raise his diefense.
jcsuae 1 month ago
Ortiz Needs To Work On His Mental Game. If He Can Improve That And Stay Focused, I Can Say He Can Become One Of The Greats Since He Already Has The Power And Technique. Until He Stays Mentally Weak, I Can't Say Nothing About Ortiz IMO. As For Berto, I See Him Giving Oritz The Run For The Money Again.. Can't Wait, Finally No BS Fight Coming Up.
Phillyzbadboy420 1 month ago
@Phillyzbadboy420 yeah a lot see him in his prime right now...I don't think so. He has a lot of room for growth. I see him having the ability to be great. Berto is a good boxer but I don't see him being "great". Is Ortiz mentally weak? OF COURSE lol but yeah badass bout!
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
I predict this fight will be explosive like the first fight. I really like Berto as a person, but I see Ortiz winning this again. If it is a brawling match I see Ortiz winning, but if it comes to a boxing match I see Berto winning.
MrMJ6358 1 month ago
@MrMJ6358 Berto imo isn't a pressure boxer, Ortiz is. I see this being explosive all damn night. It's gonna be a hell of a bout!
BoxingBelle 1 month ago
1st
DNMevolution 1 month ago