Holocaust Denial Movie Debunked Part 2: Water Well

[AlmostCommon]

So! Their bodies must be very weak to succomb to the damages done by drinking the water? From the pictures I've seen of people nearly starved to death I would say they were very weak.

[germaniajim]

you stupid jewboy, 7pounds or 7million pounds of decaying flesh, I wouldnt want my well anywhere near it, you are stupid and devoid of knowledge, besides the fact that you are reading some other persons notes there in front of you, so fuck off, You arent getting any paycheques here.

[fuckystoat]

and thats a big if..........the jews have no intelligence as this entire hoax-re-hoax shows that jewish whinny kids voice even if it was speaking of any fact scientific or psychological would just make you switch off .....but the idiotic jew spew is laughable go to the real and suppressed site don`t waste your time with this jidf hasbara propaganda ...then come back but bring a bucket if you make it to episode 3 without vomiting at this childs idiotic abuse and its isralien accent you are better

[fuckystoat]

@fuckystoat a better man than me...! go to "doubleux3 dot 1/3 of the wholycost dot comb" for a scientific and psychological breakdown of the holohoax and for final comformation of the jewish capacity for deceit and lie`s just watch the rest of this idiotic attempt to discredit a epic and in depth historical account of the biggest lie of the 20th century possibly all time (religion excepted).

"the jew lies as easily as a human breathes" .........this is proof of that at least....!!!!

[TheTruthBurnsTwice]

the word "religion" shares the same Latin root as the word "ligature" which means "bind together". The jews have fabricated so many bogus atrocity stories such as "exodus" and "holocaust" to bind themselves together since judaism cannot stand on its own merit. All jewish holidays celebrate episodes when the jews deceived the world thru demonry. The jews always educate every new generation how to be successful liars and thieves thru the gradual indoctrination into judaism which is pure fiction.

[germaniajim]

have we forgotten how many people got sick and died before London had proper sewers , thousands got typhus until one man figured out it was the shit in the water that made them sick, that's pretty strong evidence when compared to jewish explanation, brits escpecially should remember this of their own history,That holds water, jew.

[fuckystoat]

@germaniajim they died only in the last few months of the war due to typhus (carried by fleas hence the head shaving) and starvation due to no one having food due to something called a war and losing it .........this video will one day be held as an example of jewish deceit and the lengths the jews are prepared to go to paint the germans as the evil and the jews as the victim of a plan to "exterminate" them using piles of typhus victims to add credence to the "gas chamber" claims...just sick

[DrWmPierceAudio]

You state that the burden of proof is on denierbud to prove that the water was in fact contaminated, but in the well drilling industry, no one would ever put a well this close to a gravesite, precisely for the reason stated by denierbud. So whether or not denierbud can prove that the well was in fact contaminated does not change the fact that the well is close enough to the graves so that it may have been contaminated, and was likely contaminated. Therefore, the burden of proof is on you.

[DrWmPierceAudio]

When you talked about wras, you said that the people would be fighting "toxins". This is not correct since we are talking about dead bodies. Pathogens are different than toxins, and pathogens are most likely what would be found in the water supply if fluids and runoff from corpses found its way into the water supply.  It's obvious that you are completely ignorant of how pathogens would enter the water supply.

[germaniajim]

the water well factor appllies tio auscwitz not sobibor Your vain attempt to split hairs was noble but ineffective.Disease did kill ,,the largest percentage died of typhus. Ask the hundred or so american coroners who attented the camps and they could not find one single person who was gasses. The use of a childs voice in an attempt to voice authenticity has boomeranged/

[sigtgu]

What an irritating voice this kid has!

[CondensedHistory]

the court recognized at the Irving V. Lipstadt trial the fact that Adolf Hitler did indeed sign many deportation allowances for the jews such as when 70,000 Romanian jews emigrated en masse for Palestine. So if Hitler ever aimed to wipe out the jews then why did he save so many jews? The holocaust claims are a pack of lies.

"The only known thing we knew about Hitler is that he killed 6 million jews who never existed in gas chambers which nobody ever saw." - jewish professor R. Dommergue

[thepious]

what would be a few more million Jews, who could have been exterminated at almost a leisurely pace during the course of the war, and then just added to the butcher's bill that the Nazis had already earned for themselves? The Nuremburg Trial would be the perfect chance to pin the whole crime on the recently defeated Nazis - with the Allies not looking to poke there 'friends' with a stick at the start of the cold war they all saw coming. Not "no Holocaust" just more bad guys than first thought.

[thepious]

resources available to the Germans at the time. And 3, that the striking majority of the KZ's where extermination in stated as occuring were located in the post war Eastern Bloc.

So, here a thought, what if 6 million, or even more Jews were ACTUALLY killed in a 'collective' holocaust. Simply, that the numbers and 'evidence' doesn't fit the Nazis because there were two separate but parallel crimes happening. Do remember that the Soviets killed almost 25 Million Ukrainians just before the war

[thepious]

i'm not a researcher into the Holocaust, as that kind of research is FORBIDDEN in our free society, but I do have an interesting theory that could be checked one day.We know 3 things that are undeniable: 1 - Almost all of the 'evidence' at the Nuremburg Trials WRT the camps was provided by the Soviets, who we know to be upright trustworthy fellows- Christians and choirboys all. 2. That the numbers of Jews killed don't fit with nazi records from western held sourcesand the technology and

[PatriotsCall69]

This video debunks nothing. It only proves the original video.

[MelbourneMr]

Sobe; You seem to suggest that a well sunk in an area where 700,000 bodies are buried MIGHT not be contaminated.

The pertinent question is; Would the camp authorities CHOOSE to put a well near mass graves, or would they play safe and put it elsewhere? And if you think drinking contaminated water is not all that dangerous, I would urge you to research how many people died in London, in the old days before sewerage, from drinking contaminated water. In many years it was the main cause of death.

[germaniajim]

@MelbourneMr wow, I just made that same point without looking at further messages, I'm not even from england, it just solidifies our point much further.

[funwjoshnjenn]

"hold any water" lol, no pun intended?

[547212436]

deficient they were under fed IT WAS WAR how stupid can you get

[547212436]

dosnt mater where it flows because its surrounded idiot

[Edward2Rangers]

Most toxins won't reach the water? viruses and other disease cannot be filtered alone! You have go to extreme measures after filtering because viruses and other toxins will not be filtered by the sand!

Not direct contact? WOW! That was a big mistake! Like I said, filtering alone is not enough to eliminate viruses and disease causing agents! Thus the water being drunk IS in contact with the people drinking it! Learn something before making a video kid!

[TheFirstApparition]

"How deep was the well"? "How deep did it penetrate the subsoil"? "Kid" are you serious? The Jews claimed they could only dig tunnels about 5 feet down otherwise they'd hit groundwater. Do you imagine a well less than 5 feet deep? Wells -like on my grandpa's farm are deeper than 50 FEET!! BTW, scientists will tell you a shallow well is even MORE dangerous to drink from! More easily contaminated. And this well was in "swampy" soil with high groundwater. Once you hit the water table- that's it!!

[TheFirstApparition]

"Diss is udderly annoying". The "kid" (haha) makes a valid point about bedrock- BUT... that area of eastern Poland is SWAMPY. It even SAYS SO on the US Holocaust Memorial Museum website. Permability of the soil would be at its' maximum. And to ask Denierbud to run "toxicology" tests on each and every person's body allegedly buried there is...OMG, are you serious??? But hey! That's a good idea: Let's perform a real scientific dig at all those places and SEE if anything was EVER buried there!

[sirabbadon]

750,000 vicitms in those graves? hahah when did people eject their brains?

[493175001]

lol you forgot to mention how extremely slow the "underground aquaflow " is

[Chrinik]

At least Denierbud takes most of the infos from research (mostly live so you can do it yourselfs through the Web or Books) by reading passages from Books of "Eye witnesses" and using google and the USHM website most of the time.

You just show pictures of stuff related to your words...words that came from a guy we have no proof of his profession...most of this i could tell you after one hour on Wikipedia or a Library...

[SystemXpander]

seriously that kids voice is so fuggin annoying

[Chrinik]

True...To the video, first, take into account that those DRINKING the Water may didnt DIE from the TOXINS of the water, but from "becoming weak" as you said, and moving a shitload of bodys everyday probably under "whiplashes" of the SS, and if YOU where drinking water where liquids of decaying bodys where mixed into, and did hard phisical work, you might die too.

Also most of your factors would take days to count, or are IMPOSSIBLE to maintain from the sources he used.

Who cares about the well?

[vontrop]

This is easy to clear up SOBE, all you have to do is help support opening an investigation, see how deep the well was and test the surounding geology.

I am in the earth excavation bus and i know for a fact that the well would have beeen contaminated,but we dont have to take my word for it we can launch an investigation.

it is absurd to believe that the germans would be stupid enough to dig a well next to burial pits.

[Chrinik]

There will never be any investigation...all those who did investigate are in Prison or hide for fear of being thrown into prison or murdered by Jews...

Really, im not lying here, some Jews become so radical even at other jews when they only mention the Words "Holocaust" and "Hoax" or "Investigation" in one sentence...

[40AcreMule]

The depth of the well and the surrounding geology can never be investigated again. The well no longer exists. The area was very conveniently paved over with an abstract memorial of boulders and broken stones. The best way to prevent searching for any real evidence is to commemorate it with a massive Soviet modern art masterpiece.

[Zionismisnazism]

I find it a filthy trick to spread this kind of "debunking" via the voice of a kid to gain some emotional support from the viewers.

[elfbride]

I fear for this country knowing a lot of you posters are ALLOWED to vote and reproduce!!

[kenp3L]

So there is an area of about 1-1/2 acres where about 35,000 tons of human flesh (cumulatively, over several years) is buried. In the middle, there is a water well. It is true that without taking core samples one cannot definitively prove that the water from this well would have been contaminated. There could be a hardpan which the well penetrated for fresh water. Still, I cannot see any reasonable camp operator locating the burial pits in such close proximity to a water well

[zoskiaist]

actually the people claiming so many hundreds of thousands of humans were killed there at Treblinka (750k people) should be able to prove this scientifically. The burden of proof is on those making the claim not on those on the receiving end. And as well know, exceptional claims require that same level of proof. And good job on this video - Im enjoying it. Though this debunking is a little weaker than pt 1. As it depends what the ground there was like, well contamination would most likely occur

[hingerty]

Hey kid, you can drink that water..I wouldnt. Are you for real? Are you in special ed or something? No guard would have drank that crap. Why dont we just drink out of our toilets? You are incredible. That man gave scientific explanations for the area. You speak in generalities. The burden of proof is on you. Show us the bodies. What an idiot you are.

[MSM4U2POM]

@hingerty

"The burden of proof is on you. Show us the bodies".

Ah, the old BOP trick again - the last resort of the mentally destitute. You're denying one of the most heavily documented events in history on the basis on one tiny detail, and ignoring seven decades of historical research, the findings of numerous courts of law, and the convergence of tens of thousands of individual pieces of evidence from throughout an entire continent. You want to see stupid? Look in a mirror.

[mindprism]

@MSM4U2POM {You're denying one of the most heavily documented events in history}

If it is both one of the most documented, yet so super-secret that only a fraction of the SS knew of the program, then it should be easy to enumerate the actual first-hand witnesses.

Can you?

How many of these witnesses were at Nuremberg?

[MSM4U2POM]

@mindprism

"If it is both one of the most documented, yet so super-secret that only a fraction of the SS knew of the program, then it should be easy to enumerate the actual first-hand witnesses".

ROFL!

There's reams of SS testimony, and not just from Nuremberg! Ever heard of Gisevus, Broad, Suchomel, Hoess, and Kramer? They're just a handful of SS who never once denied the existence of the gas chambers. There's plenty of others as well.

What a fucking stupid question.

[mindprism]

@MSM4U2POM

Shmuel Krakowki, archives director of the Israeli government's Holocaust center, Yad Vashem, confirmed in 1986 that more than 10,000 of the 20,000 "testimonies" of Jewish "survivors" on file there are "unreliable." Many survivors, wanting "to be part of history" may have let their imaginations run away with them, Krakowski said.

-- B. Amouyal, "Doubts over evidence of camp survivors," Jerusalem Post (Israel), August 17, 1986, p. 1.

[mindprism]

@MSM4U2POM Virtually all of the US investigators who brought cases before American military courts at Dachau were "Jewish refugees from Germany" who "hated the Germans," recalled Joseph Halow, a US Army court reporter at the Dachau trials in 1947. "Many of the investigators gave vent to their hated by attempting to force confessions from the Germans by treating them brutally," including "severe beatings."

-- J. Halow, "Innocent at Dachau," Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1989-90, p. 459

[MSM4U2POM]

@mindprism

""Virtually all of the US investigators" etc.

LOL!

The opinion of one man does not discredit what is legally, forensically and historically proven, mate. Dachau was just a tiny part of the holocaust, and even if what he says is true, it doesn't even dent the overall narrative. The same goes for Krakowski: for every one testimony he might deem unreliable, there are many more which are.

You're clutching at straws, bud. Try again.

[mindprism]

@MSM4U2POM {there are many more which are}

Back up your assertion. Provide a link to your reliable witnesses. Provide a link to reliable evidence also.

[MSM4U2POM]

@mindprism

"Back up your assertion".

This just gets funnier and funnier. Why in God's name do I need to prove anything which is taught globally and which you can't change a crumb of, mate? If you choose to deny it, then it is your problem, not mine.

[mindprism]

@MSM4U2POM I am simply asking you to provide testimony and evidence that is convincing to you. Instead, you offer ridicule and laughter.

Is maturity also too much to ask for, as well as evidence and credible witnesses.

How many people do YOU believe had direct participation in the systematic murders, what is your source for your beliefs?

[MSM4U2POM]

@mindprism

"What is your source for your beliefs?".

LOL!

Only 66 years of historical research, the consensus of all the world's top historians, the findings of numerous court cases and forensic investigations, the convergence of tens of thousands of eyewitnesses and hundreds of thousands - if not millions - of documents in archives spread over an entire continent.

And you wonder why I find you ridiculous?

[mindprism]

@MSM4U2POM No mention of gas chambers or an extermination policy targeting Jews is made in the 1947 edition of Encyclopaedia Brittanica -- in describing fate of the European Jews under National Socialist rule and occupation, by American-Jewish historian Jacob Marcus one of the foremost contemporary experts on Jewish history. Leaving the reader with the impression that Marcus did not put credence in the mass gassing allegations. This description remained the same in the 1952 and 1957 editions.

[MSM4U2POM]

@mindprism

"No mention of gas chambers or an extermination policy targeting Jews is made in the 1947" etc.

So, one of the most heavily documented episodes in history did not happen because four words did not appear in three books.

Churchill, de Gaulle and Eisenhower never mentioned the battle of Kursk in their memoirs, so I guess that never happened either.

Terrifying.

[ski2exs]

Nowadays we do. Back when we first started using electricity we wired houses with bare wire and insulating stobs. Now we have romex.

That still doesn't answer the question. What do you know about ground water and wells???

[ski2exs]

That being said, I am going to give you the opportunity, before I have to give the science, to explain to all of us all you know about wells and ground water.

Have at!

[ski2exs]

And what about wells dug in the middle of a pasture??

Please, when you comment on the practices of 1940, stick with 1940 standards, not the ones we have today.

People, still today, regularly drink from wells located right beside cow pastures.

I'm assuming you probably drink from public water sources right?? In that assumtion I must also believe that if it's a true statement then, unless you dig them, you have little understanding about wells and ground water.

Is this true?

[patriotagainstempire]

Larry "Pull It" Silverstein, arch-Zionist and phone buddy with Benjamin Netanyahu is a prime suspect in the 9/11 false flag operation.

[juliaisafilmbuff]

"Building 7" has already been debunked. It is being investigated as we speak, and the conclusion has been reached that it was not an "inside job". TAke your conspiracy bullshit elsewhere.

[patriotagainstempire]

The only bullshit is what is between your ears juliaisafilmbuff. 9/11 was a TOTAL false flag operation without any doubt. You have to be an idiot not to realize it. What's more it looks very likely it was a largely ZIONIST crime against humanity. Scummy evil Zionists doing their thing and blaming someone else. The more things change the more they stay the same.

[juliaisafilmbuff]

9/11 wasn't an "inside job"; the USA was attacked because they support Israel and the zionists.

[patriotagainstempire]

Ha ha, that's very funny.

9/11 was part of the Zionist Jihad.

[zoskiaist]

9/11 can only have been an inside job - despite all the pseudo-scientific nonsense seen linked to compelling facts about 9/11 online. (got to stj911 or 911 review) the compelling facts have not be satisfactorily addressed.

[tjmuller]

The story puts a well there. Proof is that the Germans are not the stupid. They would not have put it in the mddle of burial space when they could have put it... uh, I dunno, ANYWHERE else.

[grego805]

Maybe you can re-enact the lamb cremation. Explain why there is no wood in the camp? Do bodies burn on there own? what about the space needed to bury all the remains and whole bodies. You must admit it seems far fetched to bury so many bodies in such a small area? Myth busters couldnt even confirm the cremation of so many people on simple open air roasters. Face it kid, it's a lie. Yes people were interned during a crazy war, but noone burned 600,000 bodies with no fuel

[guderianpz]

They cremated 35,000 at dresden in this fashion, or is that false as well?

Yes human body fat can sustain cremation for a short period of time.

No wood? What are you basing this comment on.

According to eyewitnesses external flammables were used in cases of open air cremations.

[Gussimus333]

Well according to a bunch of eyewitnesses in Arizona there was a giant UFO and according to some OTHER eyewitnesses there is a giant monkeyman that runs around the woods of america and throws rocks at people.

[LastSpartan30]

Guderianpz

The difference between Dresden and Treblinka is that the pyres at Treblinka were lie and left, while the pyres at Dresden were constantly fed with fuel.

Body fat is also 25% water. Whether or not it could actually burn as a fuel, it would not burn long enough at the levels the Jews claimed.

The fact that no timber ash has been found in the vicinity of the camp. If you're cremating with wood, there will be timber.

The same eye-witnesses who saw the Holocaust happen...

[hingerty]

And we all know how credible these eye witnesses are. Ask any DA.

[mindprism]

@grego805 {Face it kid, it's a lie.}

Haha. Its amazing how people will prefer to cling to their victimhood over their survival. Something truly psychotic about that.

[sobe104839]

Klaatuuns:

fabrications layered upon stupendous devisements

Got anything to show for this claim or did you just dream up something again?

[klaatuuns]

Common sense alone tells any reasoning human the political machinations whose end result was the Holocaust, capped, are fabrications layered upon stupendous devisements. It's a form of hatred against the poor: the bigger the lie, the more otherwise decent folk are willing to swallow it and spend half their lives weeping on behalf of elitist religionists.

[WarzSchoolchild]

The question to ask, is not how the Holocaust happened, but "WHY?" the Holocaust happened. Research that subject with an impartial and open mind, and it is clear that "Usury" like charging 16.7% interest per WEEK, on loans, tends to make Jews unpopular! That interest rate compounds, and the Jews threw their defaulters into Jail, for non payment!

[va1ha11a]

it seems you've decided to swallow the blue pill, and I will no longer waste my time in commenting your worthless video.

If you haven't already seen them, watch some interesting movies on video,google,com like

Terrorstorm, The Israel Lobby, Police State 2,3, Painful Deceptions, loose change. :)

I need a break from the holohoax. too dangerous subject in Europe.

[sobe104839]

No; it seems that you are a true believer who will never bother posting something besides spam, I will not waste my time with your worthless, stupid and unsubstantiated comments. The movies that va1 invites me to see also speak volumes of his political agenda and undoubtedly the major influencing factor behind his denial of the Holocaust.

[va1ha11a]

Enjoy your live in a box

[va1ha11a]

Enjoy your life in a box :)

[va1ha11a]

Do you not see a high probability that certain people in the US Government and Intelligence planned and executed the WTC destruction themselves - in order to gain huge profits from arms business, gain control and destabilize a Middle Eastern Country, weaken one of Israels Enemies, gain access to a major Drug producing country (Afghanistan) for CIA businesses?

[guderianpz]

Are you suggesting controlled demolition? that was be completely refuted many times. Also you are merely speculating profits from the attacks. Until you provide evidence that they did those things for those reasons you aren't producing anything close to fact.

[va1ha11a]

I love you

[BlueAndGoldFalcon]

not refuted, just ignored.

[guderianpz]

okay well lets see...what evidence is there that it was controlled demolition?

[va1ha11a]

911 = inside job!

watch "Terrorstorm" "911 Mysteries" "Loose Change" etc.

[HeavyMetalZombie]

No refuted, try actually doing research sometime. And the thermite theory is even funnier than that one.

[sobe104839]

Sorry va1, this isn't about life in boxes or 9/11, so please stay on topic, which is the well in the Totenlager of the Treblinka II extermination camp, or STFU.

[va1ha11a]

eat me ,bitch

[sobe104839]

Sorry va1, this isn't about life in boxes, bitches (like you*), or 9/11, so please stay on topic, which is the well in the Totenlager of the Treblinka II extermination camp, or STFU.

*Although I usually sustain myself with people like va1 et al, I don't see a reason to do that with this troll. I apologize to anyone who may be offended by the use of words like "bitch", etc.

[va1ha11a]

I've realized that I can not be certain about the credibility and truthfulness of my sources, therefore I will now cease to say that the official story is definitely flawed.

Sorry also about the use of indecent language, I'll now try to avoid letting my words fall onto the same level as my conversational partners'.

[sobe104839]

Ok then. Then I also will avoid using the same words as va1. And I will not consider blocking him anymore, if he holds to his word.

[FlashVirus]

As you can see Sobe's intelligence is unmatched here:

"or STFU."

[HeavyMetalZombie]

As opposed to the other side of the argument which shouts "KIKE!" as loud as they can and walk off to find the nearest website which claims the Jews made 9/11 happen.

[sobe104839]

As one can see FlashVirus is completely not a moron who thinks that possible offensive expressions necessarily speak about an individual's intelligence.

[Brettboat]

But the jews said thousends of jews were rotting in the ground (and shallow ground aswell, no more then 10 feet). This area is right next to the well, not only did the jews drink from this well. But Germans aswell, now what human in the right mind will drink water coming from a death pit?...

[HeavyMetalZombie]

Where is the proof? Why do all the conspiracy theorists believe that posslbe motive is indesputable evidence of foul play?

[sobe104839]

Guderianpz is right on the spot. If he wants to keep on fisking this va1 lad, he may do so.

[va1ha11a]

This is not circular logic, this is how judgement works in court.

When was the last time somebody got convicted by showing some Photos of some dead people without any real courtproof evidence? Only the Nuremberg and other Trials by Jews pulled this trick.

[guderianpz]

"Only the Nuremberg and other Trials by Jews pulled this trick." Which trial did they only show photo's? This is a gross over simplification on your part. While a body is nice in a murder case it isn't exactly needed when these "photos" are corroborated by documents, testimonies, and other sources of evidence.

[va1ha11a]

right. some Germans even testified that 25 Million Jews were killed in the most obscure ways.

Don't you get it? Those people were tortured and beaten until they gave in, and by exaggerating they told the world what was going on - those that have ears and a brain at least.

There were NO DOCUMENTS that contained any evidence for a plan to exterminate jews!

Alot of "evidence" has already been proven to be fake!

[guderianpz]

25 million? Thats a new number to me. Do you have any evidence that they were tortured during the trial period? Opinion, unfortunately for you, isn't evidence.

No documents? For a start I'm curious what you make of the einzatgruppen reports? (please back up with something other than opinion, ex. if forged evidence that they were).

[va1ha11a]

Of course it's new to you, because you are only part of the hypnotized masses who refuse to even look at the collected evidence against the holocaust lies. It doesn't exactly get much media presence of course, so people who want to know more need to invest a bit time away from mainstream propaganda. VHO . ORG <<< try this!

[va1ha11a]

Raul Hilberg uses the testimony of Nazi Kurt Gerstein numerous times, but in front of court (Toronto 1985) Hilberg had to admit that he simply cut off all of the stupid things Gerstain had testified like:

Germany actually killed 25Million in KZs,

800 people were simultaneously put into 25m2 gas-chambers,

Hitler personally witnessed gassing, and other nonsense!

Gerstein allegedly commited suicide in prison - or was murdered...

[va1ha11a]

you can see some of Gersteins weird testimony in the "holocaust denial movie part 27" on youtube

[guderianpz]

"I estimate the number of those who, defenseless and unarmed, have been murdered at the instigation of Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler, drawn without any possibility of resistance into those murderous traps where they were put to death, as at least 20,000,000 human beings. Because most certainly it is not just a matter of only some 5 or 6 million Jews European Jews who were thus put to death"

[guderianpz]

who were thus put to death, but above all the Polish intelligentsia and a great part of the Czech, as well as the management classes of other peoples, for example the Serbs, but most especially the Poles and the Czechs."

Thats from Kurt Gerstein. What you say is a complete distortion. 5-6 million Jews seems fairly accurate as he said yes?

[guderianpz]

Hitler witnessing a gassing is a distortion and hearsay from Globocnik. Golobcnik was most likely refer to Lublin no Belzec.

If you have evidence he was murdered please present it. Otherwise keep speculation to yourself.

[HeavyMetalZombie]

What evidence? You have no "evidence" that this conspiracy even exists! These people were supposedly tortured into giving false information, planting documents, etc. And in the decades following World War II not a single individual has come forward to admit this? Most of the original conspirators would either be dead or dying and NO ONE has uttered a word of this to anyone!

[Gussimus333]

Ok why would you come forward and tell the truth if you benfitted from it? Why would you come forward if you would be jailed for it?

[va1ha11a]

This is no debunk, this is pure speculation on your side. Finally you sad that the burden of proof is on denierbud's side - if you choose this route, then the burden of proof THAT THERE EVEN EXIST SO MANY BURIED PEOPLE would lie with the jews also! Unfortunately they don't allow anybody to dig up the place! Because it would show that no mass murdering happened there!

[sobe104839]

That's circular logic. <i>"why don't they allow anybody to dig up the place? Because it would show that there mass murdering did not occur there. How do we know that digging would disprove the claim that mass murdering took place? Because they don't allow anybody to dig up the place."</i>

[guderianpz]

seems to me the original speculation was on denierbud's side. About how the "well would have been contaminated." This is pure speculation because there is no concrete evidence one way or the other if the well was or wasnt. Sobe in this video goes on about how its not as clear cut as that and that there are many factors involved.

[historicrecord]

Sobe - you deserve a medal for your persistence and endless patience in rebutting the deniers. I personally don't have much time for them - my father survived Auschwitz. I generally dismiss them as white supremacists on a crusade to re-write history alleging Jewish conspiracies hoping this will assist a Far Right comeback. Inshort they breach Youtubes terms by peddling hate.

[sobe104839]

Thank you historic record. I am not the only one though. Check out message sent to you.

[fammy23]

Holocaust is a tragedy and needs to be thoroughly researched

[sobe104839]

It has been.

[historicrecord]

Holocaust deniers are deceitful in the way that they use pseudo-scientific fake research and make false assumptions to deny historic truths. When challenged they are exposed for the fraudsters that they are. They are motivated by extreme rightwing and antisemitic ideologues who try to cherrypick through the overwhelming mountain of evidence in order to make a spurious point - in essence alleging a jewish conspiracy.

[sobe104839]

That just about summed up Holocaust denial.

BTW, I'm tired of receiving comments which state that I "don't debunk anything" but yet those people can't explain one thing wrong with my clip. Stomping your feet and yelling "you don't prove anything" isn't an argument.

[claes60]

Nobody heard about "wandering burden of proof" (translation from the Swedish legal term, don't know the exact English expression)? The one who has the initial burden of proof try to fulfil it. Then the burden of proof wanders over to the opposite party, and he tries to refute as much as possible of what the first party said. Then the burden wanders again and so on. It is up to the court to analyze the full argumentation and all evidence to come to a definite conclusion.

[gncarlo]

Count down about five paragraphs and read your own writing.

[sobe104839]

Here's what I previously wrote: "Dniers are always saying that the gassings as claimed by the witnesses are impossible, or the cremation was impossible.."

How does this imply that "revisionists" claim that there were no crematorias or no cremations in the KZ's? This only implies that the amount of bodies cremated by the ovens <b>as claimed by the witnesses</b> are impossible so thus the ovens cremated much less bodies. Maybe I wasn't clear. Sorry in that case.

[gncarlo]

BTW your assertion "Dniers are always saying that .... cremation was impossible" is an excellent example of the "straw-man" epithet you are so fond of attributing to others. Name one "denier" who  has ever claimed that there was no cremation or crematoria in the German camps!

[sobe104839]

You seem to be confused. I never claimed that "revisionists" claim that there were no crematoria in KZ's or death camps. For example, Carlo Mattogno attempted to prove that 1 million corpses would not have been cremated at Birkenau. that's whwat I'm talking about.

[gncarlo]

No revisionist that I know says that human gassing is impossible; just that there is no hard evidence for it in the German-run camps. You people make the claim; the burden of proof is on you! And, no one has said that cremation is impossible; crematoria are obviously present,as they are in every major city in the western world. You do know the difference between a gas chamber and a crematorium, I hope?

[gncarlo]

How about if I assert that a monstrous genocide is taking place in the Middle East today, and you prove the impossibility of that? I don't think you want to go there...

[sobe104839]

See above please.

[gncarlo]

Yes, Sobe, you are asking me to prove a negative. You assert, with little evidence, that a monstrous set of crimes took place, and demand that I prove it is an impossibility.

[octo333]

Why when denier tactics are used against themselves we always here the "can't prove a negative?" You can prove a hoax, people have done it throughout history. To say "these people lied so they can receive this compensation" is something insurance investigators prove everyday. IN a criminal investigation, trying to find out if a person didn't do something they said they did, would a detective say "I can't prove a negative?" Again, show us evidence that all these people were lying...

[sobe104839]

Look at it this way: Dniers are always saying that the gassings as claimed by the witnesses are impossible, or the cremation was impossible, and I was just asking for proof behind one of those claims. For example, if you call the Holocaust a hoax, you need to demonstrate that it is a hoax.

[levlobotomy]

ok - demonstrate on whom ?

[guderianpz]

That is incorrect. After side A has made the claim and provided evidence, thee burden of proof shifts to counter side B.

If others, We, who assert the holocaust happened, side A, provided evidence for our claim (among which is forensics, witness testimony, documents, speeches, etc.) Then the burden of proof shifts to you, the deniers, to provide a counter claim and prove it with evidence (whether with concrete evidence or proving evidence for side A incorrect).

[guderianpz]

So when the sobe104839 put up that there were 'tens' of perpetrators who give evidence that the Holocaust did happen. You can't hide behind the claim that you can't prove a negative. Since now the burden of proof has shifted to after these witness have been provided you have to demonstrate otherwise.

[gncarlo]

However, a little humor, from Prof Finkelstein: "In what has become a mantra of the Holocaust restitution racket, this constituted "the greatest robbery in the history of mankind." ... "If everyone who claims to be a survivor actually is one," my mother used to exclaim, "who did Hitler kill"? -The Holocaust Industry

[sobe104839]

I think Finkelstein's mom should come here so we can see if she has evidence for her insinuation that there are vast amounts of survivors.

[gncarlo]

Any references I could site as to the ridiculuous number of "Holocaust Victims" having claimed reparations would be dismissed as "deniers." As would the citations regarding evidence of torture in those who confessed to "atrocities." So, why bother?

[sobe104839]

So give the evidence if you could cite so many references!

[smellwig]

"Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany" website and the "International Conference on Holocaust Era Insurance Claims" website have statistics about the number of Holocaust Victims and compensation. Neither can be dismissed as 'denier bullshit'

[sobe104839]

Well, please cite the statistic if you think they support your assertions.

[smellwig]

Sobe--The "millions of survivors" isn't MY assertion. gncarlo made that claim. Those websites support millions of DOLLARS still paid out but I didn't try to figure out the number of people. Im just try to help out a fellow assaulter of memory of the dead inciter to hate speech bigoted neanderfuck by pointing to a possible information source.

[sobe104839]

I wouldn't call gncarlo's comment hate speech, although it is off topic. In fact, I thank every critic for commenting and am proud to say that I <b>don't</b> agree with laws that make "disrupting public order" with Holocaust denial illegal.

[gncarlo]

According to the currently-official version of the Holocaust (the story seems to continuously evolve, to account for inconvenient facts, which surface from time to time), Auschwitz was the major killing factory. And there are literally tens of thousands, if not millions, claiming "reparations" on the basis of having been there.

[octo333]

So where is your evidence of these "millions"?

[sobe104839]

and were can one find evidence of these "millions" claiming reperations?

[gncarlo]

Earth to Sobe: that's called demanding that one prove a negative. Against the claims of your "tens of witnesses" ? LOL BTW I also can't prove that Saddham didn't have WMDs, that I didn't shoot JFK, or that there is no Santa Claus!

[sobe104839]

Earth to gnCarlo: That's <b>not</b> called demanding that one prove a negative! LOL! Demanding you to prove a negative would be saying "prove that the Holocaust didn't happen." 'Revisionists' always whine about these supposed 'impossibilities' in the 'story', and i'm just asking for the proof behind these 'impossibilities'.

[sobe104839]

"the rest of the world is required to prove negatives"

No, the "rest of the world" just needs to explain why the Final Solution would not have been carried out as claimed.

[gncarlo]

Secondly: "...tens of witnesses and perpetrators.." "Tens?" In the alleged mass murder of six million? And these "tens" are not required to prove their wild allegations, but the rest of the world is required to prove negatives, in an atmosphere where sincere research can lead to smears, threats, and imprisonment?

[sobe104839]

gncarlo is apparently confusing the Reinhard camps for KZ concentration camps. The Reinhard camps were for the sole purpose of killing. What do you expect, thousands of survivors?

"And these "tens" are not required to prove their wild allegations"

lol. The witnesses <b>are</b> part of the proof.

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[octo333]

Naumann, Blobel, Ohlendorf, Kramer, Böck, Gerhard, Hölblinger, Storch, Wiebeck,, Hoess, Stangl, Wagner...look I went over ten into twelve! And guess what? They are all former SS. Why didn't they say "it was a lie!" Now you step up to the plate and prove these guys lied.

[gncarlo]

Regarding your comment: "You heard wrong: I said in between July 1942 and August 1943." At minute 5:40 of Debunked: Introduction, it states, in print, that killing at Treblinka was from July 1943 to August 1943. Perhaps you should proofread what you write.

[gncarlo]

A silly response: what does one need to know about details to conclude the inevitability of contamination in these circumstances? BTW I have tried to respond to other points but get blocked ("message error"). Know anything about this?

[sobe104839]

Your response is fascinating. You're basically saying: "Don't trust science and a building services engineer who has experience with sewer systems, trust me!!"

[gncarlo]

Clip 2. Regarding the safety of the well water: try getting the authorities in any municipality in the US to give you a permit to dig a simple cesspool within 60 meters of a water well. Regardless of the depth of the Treblinka well, the top layer of decomposing bodies would be above it. Everywhere I have lived, the water ran downhill. Sadly, if I pointed this out while living in Germany today, I could go to prison for years. In "Holocaust Denial," "the truth is no defense."

[sobe104839]

You're comparing apples and oranges. And you're making speculations without even knowing the details of the Treblinka well. Unfortunately, we don't have such details, as there's no reason for a witness to focus on the exact details of the well when (s)he is in an extermination camp. And yes, the top layer of bodies was above the well: This doesn't prove anything.