pura basura esta mierda... nada productivo el amor a la humanidad en esas "letras" no existe justicia menos principios morales naaaaadaaa esto es lo que se llama el consumismo.
no importa si lo que hablan destruye a los demás, no no importa. lo que importa es el dinero que genera.
invito a todos a buscar sus raíces su identidad su folclor eso lo nutre a uno como persona en su repectivos paises donde nacieron.
@Volaverunt2015 yes because nathan explosion was based on corpse grinder, if you look at dethklok and their music videos nathans stance and everything is identical to corpse grinder
cant we all just ignore everyone who dislikes cc ?, who cares about thoose people ?, if i want to listen to cc on youtube, i dont want to read all those comment-arguments with haters that just dont get the point of this music, its great fucking entertainment , !!! period...
@MrSkwisgaar13243 No..It says scraemobeast and screamo is for faggots. like you. i actually met cannibal corpse and listen to them more than you. dikhead
ok so some guy said that cannibal corpse sucks live.... and he listens to death core? what the fuck? cannibal corpse is fucking brutal live and death core is ...well you know
how could you like this if you cant understand what he is saying i mean if it wasnt for the lyricsonline none of you would know i guarantee it guitar riffs are good but lyrics come on someone enlighten me
@climey Well, first of all how often is it that you understand the lyrics to any song right away any way, second of all, since there's always a bunch of really annoying faggots out there who complain about the lyrics its probably best not to understand them.
@danilolr93 it's a festival, covering every aspect of metal and hardcore. You get Bands Like CC, Slayer, Terror, Six Feet Underm Heaven Shall Burn, even The Exploited, Agonstic Front etc. And also bands like Korn get to play there.
@PRFCHEWY Yeah, they actually started something new back then, when Nu Metal wasn't that bad, but now it has turned into a "Thing", that seems to work against what metal has already been. Bands like Linkin Park (some also count Slipknot in, but I think not all they did was as bad as everybody says) are covering the charts everywhere with their mix of rapping, Dj and "metal". The point is, most dudes, who listen to them have no knowledge of actual music, they think Joey Jordison is the best drumm
@HaunziFilms joey is a great drumer slipknot is a great band if they sucked they would have not sold 20 million albums if you dont like them thats all good dont say they suck cause if you where so good you would not be on youtube talking shit you would be headlineing the world
@TheBigdev23 and those are the comments, that prove it. I never said slipknot sucked, but If you actually had knowledge about Drumming, you'd now, that the things Slipknot play are good, but not to be compared to other great drummers. They can do their thing very good, pretty damn good! But all those hype-kids saying he is the fastest int the world and such stuff just don't have a clue... And that million album number is pretty damsn stupid to be honest. do you like Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga?
@TheBigdev23 How much something sells is not the same as how good a band is. Saying that is pure stupidity. Slipknot, korn, pod, etc is yesterdays bring me the horizon and trivium. Shitty band that sell alot has always been around, since the dawn of the music industry.
@PRFCHEWY er in the world. He isn't even close to being that. Also they consider everything produced with low guitars "metal". And I could count so many things, that are annoying because you have to deal with those guys all the time. It's a fact, Korn started something new, which is good. But after a few albums they didn't come up with something new. And started getting boring, which is the time, most people remember from them. ;)
@HaunziFilms What did korn start? Nothing. New metal came from faith no more. Saying it came from korn is pure bullshit. Sepultura started the groove metal scene with their more mainstream album releases.
@julianodevil666 They got into a huge accident and all there equipment was destroyed and corpsegrinder is real cool with jonathan from korn so korn let them use there stuff
CANNIBAL CORPSE it's absolutely one if not my most favorite Death Metal Band ever...period;George ,he's a great influence on me,the Band just plainly kicks-your fucking-ass ,their music a blast and their fans worldwide awesome !!!
lol how he is wearing a Dethklok T-shirt. he looks just like Nathan Explosion
i love hacksaw decapitation's intro reminds me of a dream i had
they beat the shit out of most new metal bands and no other band has caused so much controversy with their album covers, i don't know how many countries have banned their uncensored albums
remember that the sound man hears everything perfectly from where he sits. he doesn't know what the microphones on the cameras will hear, and he doesn't care. his job is to make the stage sound good to the audience. the treble is fine
remember that the sound man hears everything perfectly from where he sits. he doesn't know what the microphones on the cameras will hear, and he doesn't care. his job is to make the stage sound good to the audience. the treble is fine
@massputrify just to make things clear. ;) do you mean the lyrics when you read them, the meaning, or when he sings them. because when he sings them imo chris is more understandable. ...
lol corpsegrinder lives in my neighborhood! it is so weird to see him on stage in front of so many people then seeing him get into his red mini van.. he should really drive a more metal car... haha
@deathmetal4life26 lol no, i went to his house on halloween and met him and his daughter and stuff but i didn't ask him about CC. And im going to school now so i dont live in that neighborhood anymore. When i visit my parents I see him tho, he is huge in real life!
@XxSpawnmasterxX yeah bro, i never thought someone like corpse grinder would live in such a normal neighborhood such as mine. You would never guess he lived there because of the red mini van thats parked outside lol....
==|:::::::> \m/
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pura basura esta mierda... nada productivo el amor a la humanidad en esas "letras" no existe justicia menos principios morales naaaaadaaa esto es lo que se llama el consumismo.
no importa si lo que hablan destruye a los demás, no no importa. lo que importa es el dinero que genera.
invito a todos a buscar sus raíces su identidad su folclor eso lo nutre a uno como persona en su repectivos paises donde nacieron.
alejense de esto
no se dejen meter basura
edwinjose28 3 weeks ago
fucking brutal !
lyzander 3 weeks ago
actually this song called Ecstasy In Decay
ukr89 1 month ago
@ukr89 No.
00NeVaN00 2 weeks ago
@rty2ful they are not lol everybody has theyre own opinion tho
mike390g 2 months ago
Why is cradle of filth the best?
rty2ful 4 months ago
corpsgrinders voice is hoarce.must have been a long tour
Mad1Z 5 months ago
haha the singer has a dethklok t-shirt...i like it...
Volaverunt2015 7 months ago
@Volaverunt2015 thats coz nathan explosion is based off of the singer. :)
TheAmazingScotsman 7 months ago
@TheAmazingScotsman oh,i get it haha...nice band btw,i never really had the oportunity to listen to them,but now i did and i like it haha
Volaverunt2015 6 months ago
@Volaverunt2015 Nice, they're awesome haha :)!
TheAmazingScotsman 6 months ago
@Volaverunt2015 yes because nathan explosion was based on corpse grinder, if you look at dethklok and their music videos nathans stance and everything is identical to corpse grinder
MetalForeverBlack 6 months ago
The best band .l.
Fuck cannibal corpse .l.
i like it
From colombia
corpse1129 7 months ago 3
cant we all just ignore everyone who dislikes cc ?, who cares about thoose people ?, if i want to listen to cc on youtube, i dont want to read all those comment-arguments with haters that just dont get the point of this music, its great fucking entertainment , !!! period...
frysianbeast 7 months ago 2
cannibal fuckn corpse fuckn rules bitches fuck all the haters
screamobeast 7 months ago
@screamobeast your a faggot.
MrSkwisgaar13243 7 months ago
@MrSkwisgaar13243 shut up pussy
screamobeast 7 months ago
@screamobeast your name is screamobeast. That says it all mate,
MrSkwisgaar13243 7 months ago
@MrSkwisgaar13243 yeah dats says shut da fuck up bitch
screamobeast 7 months ago
@MrSkwisgaar13243 No..It says scraemobeast and screamo is for faggots. like you. i actually met cannibal corpse and listen to them more than you. dikhead
MrSkwisgaar13243 7 months ago
learn to sing cunt
bmr21021975 7 months ago
shit
bmr21021975 7 months ago
2:35 - korn member saying : omg these guys kick our asses, better we go to our homes and hide.
ThrashFarmer 8 months ago
@ThrashFarmer hahaaha
Behemothmelayu 8 months ago
Corpsegrinder always has that Dethlok shirt on, \m/!!!!!!!!
TheCorpseshredder 8 months ago
ok so some guy said that cannibal corpse sucks live.... and he listens to death core? what the fuck? cannibal corpse is fucking brutal live and death core is ...well you know
emossuckhorses 8 months ago
@emossuckhorses you mean really good?
ethos3321 8 months ago
@emossuckhorses yo bitch i listn to deathcore and i love cannibal corpse alooot soo shut the fuck up nd dnt tlk bad abt deathcore
screamobeast 7 months ago
@screamobeast spell so that i can understand you... then we can talk
emossuckhorses 7 months ago
Mrfagsmasher doesn't know the irony in his statement, an his name... The only fag thats gonna get smashed is you with a fucking hammer to the face!
BOBSAGGETASS 8 months ago
fuckin awesome!!!!
taydify 8 months ago
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christiaNNightwolf 9 months ago 5
@christiaNNightwolf holy shit howd you see that?
PRFCHEWY 8 months ago
I am open to any music however, this is not music... Sick cunts.
MrFagSmasher 9 months ago
@MrFagSmasher, They may take your "Sick Cunts" remark as a compliment.
XxTimEofDeatHxX 8 months ago
1:03 epic face
ShunsuiKyouraku8 9 months ago 2
so he said........ ROARRRROROROROROROROROROROR?
sn1p3dus0n 10 months ago
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this guy vomit?
22081994adi 10 months ago
this guy vomit?
22081994adi 10 months ago
this guy vomit?
22081994adi 10 months ago
corpsegrinder didn't have time to brush his hair,on every other video his hair is straight
MrLuciferion 10 months ago 2
fuck man,they looked tired
Hammmorage666 10 months ago
corpsegrinder has a really thick neck from all of the headbanging
monmorbet 10 months ago
@monmorbet haha it's like thicker than his head.
Sylvanranger 10 months ago
wow.. fuking tight and controlled..awesome stuff..
beeps123 11 months ago 24
the dethklok shirt :D
XboondockangelX34 11 months ago
@XboondockangelX34 This is the second show he goes with this shirt, George Fisher to be a fan of this band :D
julianodevil666 11 months ago
@julianodevil666 :D
XboondockangelX34 11 months ago
Haters gotta hate
RadBrad13 11 months ago
@RadBrad13 fuck the haters with a rusty dagger
59Hellfire 11 months ago
NATHAN EXPLOSION!!!
MRec1124 11 months ago
how could you like this if you cant understand what he is saying i mean if it wasnt for the lyricsonline none of you would know i guarantee it guitar riffs are good but lyrics come on someone enlighten me
climey 1 year ago
@climey Well, first of all how often is it that you understand the lyrics to any song right away any way, second of all, since there's always a bunch of really annoying faggots out there who complain about the lyrics its probably best not to understand them.
TPCproductionz 10 months ago
Best
BrutalFero 1 year ago
come to philippines ..\m/ cc rulez!!!
naszboy 1 year ago
@LP0FireBird0LP
Chill dude, it's a harder song.
If Paul played it at tempo, he'd be die'n mid way threw the set
NecroHial 1 year ago
The video is like, a whole beat slower than the audio.. This pisses me off..
LP0FireBird0LP 1 year ago
in the beginning it sounds like they're about to brake out into killing in the name of
humpde479 1 year ago
I once again in my life am thirsty for blood >l)
EvilisMyname90 1 year ago
uwaaaaaaa!!!!
haaaaaaaaaa!!!!
veeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
waaaaaaaaa!!!!
kinnnikudesu 1 year ago
@danilolr93 it's a festival, covering every aspect of metal and hardcore. You get Bands Like CC, Slayer, Terror, Six Feet Underm Heaven Shall Burn, even The Exploited, Agonstic Front etc. And also bands like Korn get to play there.
HaunziFilms 1 year ago
@HaunziFilms KoRn's not even that bad why's everyone baggin on them?
PRFCHEWY 1 year ago
@PRFCHEWY Yeah, they actually started something new back then, when Nu Metal wasn't that bad, but now it has turned into a "Thing", that seems to work against what metal has already been. Bands like Linkin Park (some also count Slipknot in, but I think not all they did was as bad as everybody says) are covering the charts everywhere with their mix of rapping, Dj and "metal". The point is, most dudes, who listen to them have no knowledge of actual music, they think Joey Jordison is the best drumm
HaunziFilms 1 year ago
@HaunziFilms joey is a great drumer slipknot is a great band if they sucked they would have not sold 20 million albums if you dont like them thats all good dont say they suck cause if you where so good you would not be on youtube talking shit you would be headlineing the world
TheBigdev23 1 year ago
@TheBigdev23 and those are the comments, that prove it. I never said slipknot sucked, but If you actually had knowledge about Drumming, you'd now, that the things Slipknot play are good, but not to be compared to other great drummers. They can do their thing very good, pretty damn good! But all those hype-kids saying he is the fastest int the world and such stuff just don't have a clue... And that million album number is pretty damsn stupid to be honest. do you like Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga?
HaunziFilms 1 year ago
@HaunziFilms for sure dude but he is a great drumer the kids that say he is the best thats the only metal band they no
TheBigdev23 1 year ago
@TheBigdev23 exactly. ;) I don't doubt he does his job very well, he can play everything he has to and even much more.
HaunziFilms 1 year ago
@HaunziFilms right on
TheBigdev23 1 year ago
@TheBigdev23 How much something sells is not the same as how good a band is. Saying that is pure stupidity. Slipknot, korn, pod, etc is yesterdays bring me the horizon and trivium. Shitty band that sell alot has always been around, since the dawn of the music industry.
aurasmash 11 months ago
@aurasmash i would say your rite but bmth sound souds like 1000 other bands slipknot and korn have there own sound that every one trys to be
TheBigdev23 11 months ago
@PRFCHEWY er in the world. He isn't even close to being that. Also they consider everything produced with low guitars "metal". And I could count so many things, that are annoying because you have to deal with those guys all the time. It's a fact, Korn started something new, which is good. But after a few albums they didn't come up with something new. And started getting boring, which is the time, most people remember from them. ;)
HaunziFilms 1 year ago
@HaunziFilms What did korn start? Nothing. New metal came from faith no more. Saying it came from korn is pure bullshit. Sepultura started the groove metal scene with their more mainstream album releases.
aurasmash 11 months ago
They Opened or Korn if i'm correct
blasterman9 1 year ago
0:02 korn :p
FletcherSaysHaiToyou 1 year ago
Best band in the fucking world.
RadBrad13 1 year ago
And only a real band will wear other bands shirts
Rockzo6195 1 year ago
@Rockzo6195 So every band?
effinthebum 1 year ago
@Rockzo6195 What if all the other shirts are in the laundry :)
Marksliphead 1 year ago
Did u guys know this is who nathan explosion is based off of?
Rockzo6195 1 year ago
the sound engineer needs a bit more practice
lordvladislas 1 year ago
0:01 KORN?
julianodevil666 1 year ago 79
@julianodevil666
KoRn played on that festival that year =)
toni020695 10 months ago
@toni020695 yeah, I personally do not really like Korn but like many of my friends and I have nothing against people who like :)
julianodevil666 10 months ago
@julianodevil666
thats perfect ;D There are so many people out there who think "KoRn sucks and anyone who likes them sucks, too" >.<
toni020695 10 months ago
@toni020695 I just think sometimes people worry more than they like and do not forget things like that, it might not make much sense but it's true.
julianodevil666 10 months ago
@julianodevil666 They got into a huge accident and all there equipment was destroyed and corpsegrinder is real cool with jonathan from korn so korn let them use there stuff
MsCindy98 10 months ago
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@julianodevil666 "0:01 KORN?"
Yeah... guess who was headling the festival....
NonEternal 5 months ago
0:50 easy breezy beautiful cover girl
AxeSurgeon 1 year ago
naklar und das kommt nicht auf die WFF DvD ,... die Affen !
Blackfest666 1 year ago
thank you paul for wearing a shirt
PRFCHEWY 1 year ago
im gonna try to get a picture with him some day, i saw him today walking his dog!
TheNozferatu 1 year ago
Bine Cosmine, dumnezeii eeeeeeeiiii de treaba !!!
MrSatanochio 1 year ago
BRUTAL!!!!!!!!!!!!
thetoxicavenger100 1 year ago
LOL :D:DD
like cross-eyed cow
terrordrone7 1 year ago
whats up with that dethklok shirt
beefymcmanst1c 1 year ago
@beefymcmanst1c
George has done voices for the show and Nathan Explosion is based off him.
rob825 1 year ago
I just can't stop watching this video,thx to who recorded this ,was that in Germany,where abouts?
Mariogiussepe 1 year ago
Best band in the fucking world.
RadBrad13 1 year ago
CANNIBAL CORPSE it's absolutely one if not my most favorite Death Metal Band ever...period;George ,he's a great influence on me,the Band just plainly kicks-your fucking-ass ,their music a blast and their fans worldwide awesome !!!
Mariogiussepe 1 year ago
omg look at corpsegrinders neck at 0:30 ...
it`s a fuckin treestump
Minkopone 1 year ago
haha he goes oowwwh at 0:50 just before he starts streaming :')
NotCrimesHobbys 1 year ago
@metallpeter
Any and every single day George owns Barnes
mrguano7 1 year ago
incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
skinnyjeansx235 1 year ago
lol how he is wearing a Dethklok T-shirt. he looks just like Nathan Explosion
i love hacksaw decapitation's intro reminds me of a dream i had
they beat the shit out of most new metal bands and no other band has caused so much controversy with their album covers, i don't know how many countries have banned their uncensored albums
HSTfan1992 1 year ago
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I love the chorus: "They live, they thirst..." George's voice makes that part so awesome
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AlColarossiDrums 1 year ago
lol at paul hiding himself in the begginning
juku223 1 year ago
ma cazzo parla?! odio questo gruppo
easynote92 1 year ago
it's somehow funny..
gggskywalker 1 year ago
@gggskywalker but mostly brutal
mike390g 1 year ago
@mike390g if u say so hehe
but it's cool, not my kind of music, but still good, must be very good
gggskywalker 1 year ago
The break down at 3:15 & seeing Corpsegrinder & Alex Head banging the way the are just to brutal
EZPR08 1 year ago
He sing funny :)
TheDulki 1 year ago
CC is one of the best live acts. You definitely get fucked up at their shows.
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remember that the sound man hears everything perfectly from where he sits. he doesn't know what the microphones on the cameras will hear, and he doesn't care. his job is to make the stage sound good to the audience. the treble is fine
billsswills 1 year ago
remember that the sound man hears everything perfectly from where he sits. he doesn't know what the microphones on the cameras will hear, and he doesn't care. his job is to make the stage sound good to the audience. the treble is fine
billsswills 1 year ago
@wtfjaftw that's what happens when you adjust your tone knobs. they call it treble
billsswills 1 year ago
Corpsegrinder is cannibal corpse, what the fuck is a chris barnes anymore? never existed in my opinion
mr666devildriver 1 year ago
the headbanging is gay, the music is good
Fyapowar 1 year ago
fucking pat..guy is amazing!!!
cannibalchewbacca 1 year ago
Cannibal Corpse \m/ !!!
XxMetalGorxX 1 year ago
why are they paying it so slow
ashisification 1 year ago
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massputrify 1 year ago
@massputrify just to make things clear. ;) do you mean the lyrics when you read them, the meaning, or when he sings them. because when he sings them imo chris is more understandable. ...
HaunziFilms 1 year ago
Fuck Yeah!
shirotaka666 1 year ago
This video is taken from their dvd "centuries of torment"
i have it! amazingly great.
especially alex
DYINGSILENCEBASSIST 1 year ago
awesome! corpesgrinders got a dethklok shirt on!!
CradleOfBodom17 1 year ago
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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
looks like a teenager screaming xDD
OMFG! I dont waste time send me messages because this is a fucking circus...
What the hell is he singing???? i dont understand nothing --'
i have more tatoos in my arm then the all band LOOOOOL
rogermola 1 year ago
@rogermola fuck yourself cocksucker
DYINGSILENCEBASSIST 1 year ago
@rogermola your not supposed to "understand nothing", you have no right to speak never mind have an opinion if you have Slipknot in your favorites.
lolatmyaccounts 1 year ago
@rogermola
wow its seems you judge bands about the tattoos they wear...
this is more than smattering . its totally poor man.
grindfuckernms 1 year ago
CC for life!!!Fisher is awesome!!!
TheCannibalMaster 1 year ago
@TheBigBenz99 True ! Webster is from another planet for sure.
Neuroneos 1 year ago
george fisher has a similar vocal style to james lee.
ng12 1 year ago
@ng12 Who is james lee?
Dreewcifer 1 year ago
@Dreewcifer vocalist for the band Origin..
ng12 1 year ago
lol corpsegrinder lives in my neighborhood! it is so weird to see him on stage in front of so many people then seeing him get into his red mini van.. he should really drive a more metal car... haha
TheNozferatu 1 year ago
@TheNozferatu REALLY LUCKY!! Do you ask him about CC?
deathmetal4life26 1 year ago
@deathmetal4life26 lol no, i went to his house on halloween and met him and his daughter and stuff but i didn't ask him about CC. And im going to school now so i dont live in that neighborhood anymore. When i visit my parents I see him tho, he is huge in real life!
TheNozferatu 1 year ago
@TheNozferatu LOL that is epic. LUCKY!
deathmetal4life26 1 year ago
@TheNozferatu bro you are one of the luckiest people on earth to have not only met him...but to have lived near him. what an honor!
XxSpawnmasterxX 1 year ago
@XxSpawnmasterxX yeah bro, i never thought someone like corpse grinder would live in such a normal neighborhood such as mine. You would never guess he lived there because of the red mini van thats parked outside lol....
TheNozferatu 1 year ago
@TheNozferatu lmao corpsegrinder manages to suprise us all with just how "normal" he realy is XD
XxSpawnmasterxX 1 year ago
what bass is using here alex??
fIeabass 1 year ago
@fIeabass looks like his Modulus Quantum 5.
JohnGrovemountain 1 year ago
@fIeabass hes useing a ibanez soundgear bass
queensofthestonage4 1 year ago
@queensofthestonage4
It's not a soundgear, it's a Modulus Quantum 5.
68jaromirjagr 1 year ago
Rob Barret is wearing a fucking sick shirt.
Chewzluvsbooze 1 year ago
the bass drum can be heard separately...like really loud...but doesnt fuck up the song...:)
killcab 1 year ago
Cannibal Corpse FTW!!!Best fucking band ever!
DeathFuckinMetal 1 year ago
george corpsegrinder is wearing a dethklok shirt
bea5ToloG 1 year ago
@metallpeter he is pretty br00tal
bea5ToloG 1 year ago
both grinder and barnes are awesome i never really picked one over the other they are both fucking awesome and death metal icons. hail cc
witcherismyname06 1 year ago
I love how the lead singer is wearing a "Deathklok" shirt :P
mileylop 1 year ago 3
I love how the front row of people's heads are just undulating when it shows from the back of the stage
CrazyMetalZombie 2 years ago
I saw them in Belgrade last year, and this year i will see them at Metalcamp!!! \m/
StefanHunterMaiden 2 years ago
@skillzdatkillzify you suck
nirvanank 2 years ago
That Groove At 3:14 Is So Eic, I Challenge You To NOT Bang Your Head!
WHammerMetalFan 2 years ago 16
*Epic XD
WHammerMetalFan 2 years ago 3
@WHammerMetalFan you're right i couldn't resist :O
Elnachoz8 1 year ago
@WHammerMetalFan Shit! I tried your challenge, and i started head banging without realizing. I failed!
metalheadmayhem777 1 year ago
badass song \m/
queensofthestonage4 2 years ago
blooooooooooood !!!
xxfroobxx 2 years ago 4
@skillzdatkillzify that's the stupidest thing I've ever heardin my life lol
SlayerMaidenEnemy 2 years ago 2
bloooooooood!
18hendrix 2 years ago 4
YES! \m/
RadBrad13 2 years ago 2
Barnes makes the same boring sound throughout, George is a monster.
Thomsonrf101 2 years ago 4
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Barnes SHITS on george ... FACT
DreamSequencer08 2 years ago
(OLD) Barnes...
His vocals now aren't even close to Grinder's
infernaltyrant 2 years ago
lol ther lead singer scares me haha, but i love the band still haha
pivotdudexx12 2 years ago
3:14 is heavy as fuck
georgexxx 2 years ago 12
i just found out george hamilton, the guy who plays luke skywalker listens to Dethklok
diegoprod 2 years ago